The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Former Bachelor Producer Julie LaPlaca Addresses Claims, And What Her Book is REALLY About

Episode Date: July 7, 2026

The whole point of The Bachelor is to find romance, but what happens when a love connection happens behind the scenes?? Ben and Ashley are hanging out with former Bachelor producer Julie LaPlaca to get to the heart of her new book "The Love Producer". We go deep into what happened while working on Peter Weber's season, Julie reacts to Nick Viall’s comments, and Julie reveals when she was almost The Bachelorette!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We are here today with someone who's been in the headlines a lot this week. It is one of our former Bachelor producers, Julie Laplaca. My babysitter called out, just an hour before Julie arrived. So if you hear Dawson blabbering in the background of this podcast, now you know why. Hey, Julie.

She's here in the kitchen with me. Dawson is sitting here ready with tissues for her because it's been an emotional week, I'm sure. I mean, you've never had headlines like this before and like your first bout with headlines, right? Kind of controversial. Yeah. How's your week been?

Yeah, it's been a really interesting week. how has it been? Honestly, I guess it's a little hurtful that, you know, both of these men I offer to let read the book and both of them ghosted me and are forming their own opinions now without like understanding my heart and what I put into it. So yeah, it's been a little interesting. It's really interesting to see the power of a man with a mic and the assumptions people form just off of one person. person's words. So yeah, it's been interesting. But, you know, he's also entitled to his opinion. He and he. Let's be Claire. Which what are we talking about now? Nick or Peter? Oh, I guess I'm talking, I'm kind of putting them both in together. Both of them are

off for copies of the book and both of them ended up like stopped responding to me. So neither of them ended up actually reading the book. All right. So I'm a little, I'm a little interested. And Ben's here too, of course. Ben's via Zoom right now. Now, she's referring to Nick by all and Peter Weber, who she was the producer of. We should also probably just backtrack a second. Julie has a new book out. It is called The Love Producer. And in it, you entail about your life as a Bachelor producer

before, after the show, what led you to the show, how you separate yourself from the show. And the most dramatic, which is getting headlines, is the fact that you had a romance of sorts with Peter, and maybe a crush, maybe more. a situation ship. That is definitely for sure. Yeah.

And you're referring to the fact that Nick has been out there this week saying that you, it was all very inappropriate. So let's get into that. Well, we'll dive into all of this. But Ben, I want to let you have a moment first. I mean, I think there's just a lot of questions. The book is a project of yours, Julie, that you came out with. I think we need to set the stage a little bit.

Julie, you're a producer on The Bachelor, Bachelorette for how many years? I was there for seven years from. Andy Dorfman's season through Matt James. I started on the date side and then I switched to being with the leads Hannah Brown's season. Okay. Yeah. Julie, I think we have to have this conversation leading off the headlines. I actually think it'll be helpful for everybody involved.

Maybe Nick, Peter, I'm sure they're going to listen to it. Maybe you. When you wrote this book, they haven't read this book. So there is still some like hearsay and there's still some unknowns. did you expect Peter especially to be upset with the book once it came out and once people started talking about it like was this something you're shocked by surprised by or did you expect it? Oh no, I'm not I'm not shocked. I you know there's a reason why it's coming out six years later.

I really had to you know after I left the show I dealt with a lot of shame around what happened. I on two fronts, right, there was the element of feeling like I failed like a producer and also feeling like it also triggered a lot of wounds from past men and relationships with lack thereof for that. So I really went through, I mean, on a spiritual level, what you would call the dark night of the soul, where actually like, you know, when your whole like identity is stripped from you and you're kind of left with nothing. And so it was a really hard time for me after I left the show. And I had to confront a lot of my own inner wounds and really who I am on a sole level. And yeah, I think Peter was probably the catalyst for me leaving something that actually no longer aligned with who I am and my values. And so, yeah, so I understand. I get it.

And also, like, for me to heal and for, like, the work I'm doing now is important for me to share my truth. I think, like, when you hold shame inside, it's not a great place to be. And when you could work through that shame and release it and speak it out loud, there's something really freeing about that. The crux of it was that you kind of realized that you were creating love stories for other people and you were, like, so entrenched in those stories and producing them. And then you were realizing that you weren't producing your own love story, which is something that you, desperately wanted. You were always like a hopeless romantic and very much like a me growing up with the Disney and the boy bands and all that stuff. We've always related on that. And you just imagined that great romance for yourself. And then you're like, oh my gosh, I'm like mid-30s and I'm

not having this at all. Yeah. Yeah, it's really hard when you, yeah, when you're giving your whole life to other people's love stories. And, you know, I was sitting there asking these, vulnerable questions to cast members. I realized I never like turned the lens inward on myself. You get, I mean, so many people get in sort of this like hypnotic state in life and you're just go, go, go, go, go. And suddenly it's like, it's actually when COVID when we were forced to kind of pause and it forced me to finally like sit in my own thoughts and reflect on who I am and what I want out of life. And it was like, yeah, I've been, I have been neglecting my own heart. So I had a, I had a leave to reconnect with that.

The book is out, and obviously the headlines this week, I believe Nick, I don't want to put words in his mouth, but I think he said on his show that this was grooming. Like, you're writing a book about the experience, but really what the story is, is it would be defined by grooming because you were working for a show. You were a lead producer. Peter was, you know, susceptible because he was open to love at the time. do you view it as grooming? And if not, why not? And if so, how do you feel about that being defined as, you know, this experience? No, I don't believe I was grooming Peter.

In fact, when we were filming, like, nothing happened. When we were filming and I was his producer, I am very much focused in on my job and the role. And I cared about Peter. I saw him as a really nice, nice guy. And I, you know, compared coming off of a season where I had a hard time with the lead, Peter was just like, it felt like family, it felt like best friends. And even in my chapter about the season, that's all very reflective looking back now where I realize, oh, there are these moments where why did that upset me when he, you know,

when he got upset with me? Why did that affect me so much? I should be glad he wanted time away from me. Even like the moments like actually during the season is more reflective looking back, But when we were in the season, when we were filming, I was very much in producer mode. Now, of course, you know, part of her job is to get close with them. And for me, I think I can't fake. Like, I realize I'm not like a person who could like fake connection.

And so, but with him, it became very easy because we connect it really well. But I'd be curious, your thoughts. You are a former lead too. So you can speak to it from a similar perspective as Nick. Yeah. No, I guess I could. I think one clarifying thing that needs to be spoken about here is this whole book is not a tell-all about your relationship with Peter, just to be clear. And I think that's right now kind of, without reading it, the narrative that would be assumed would be, hey, this is

22 chapters on a romantic relationship with the lead from the show. That is not the case. And so, you know, I do think that would be important to kind of give a picture of what exactly is being talked about in the book. Why is the book coming out and those things? It is a lot of your journey to healing, you know, getting back out into the world and feeling prepared. You know, Ashley knows this, and I think some would disagree and some would agree. I'm sure there will be people out there that can make a strong argument that nobody in a leadership role of somebody else, you know, that does leave somebody susceptible to this. I'm also in the, just, I think maybe just where I'm from is as an adult, you make your own decisions.

And I do think this can get messy. The lines can get blurred in this environment. I think it was an unfortunate scenario is how I would say. I don't think grooming would be. I think that's like a very like, that would be like going on the far end of it being like, hey, you are prepping and planning the whole time to someday, you know, make him fall in love with you and all these things that you were doing along the bachelor journey were to lead him away from all the women that were there.

I don't believe that to be the case. know you. I don't think that was some like big scheme that you had and some brilliant, you know, idea. But I can see where this could be viewed or at least if I was in your position and maybe in Peter's position where I'd say this was an unfortunate scenario that happened in an environment that we were both pulling everything we could to fall in love during. And as a result, I would say, yeah, it was a mistake. So I guess that would be my question back, is. is today as you sit there, do you see this as a mistake? And do you think Peter sees it as a mistake, you know,

kind of where it got to with you too? Yeah. I don't like to think anything's a mistake because I now, from a higher perspective, understand why it happened. And it really was to push me out of a show that no longer aligned with who I was. And really was the catalyst for me to like understand my wound.

and my triggers with men. So I'm actually now, like, grateful it happened. Was it right? No, I understand it wasn't, like, right from, you know, from, you know, professional standpoint. Yeah, that's why I left. That's why I dealt with a lot of shame. That's why I, like, stayed hidden for years, quite literally. I had to, like, do a lot of healing.

So it was, it was really difficult. But I don't think anything's a mistake. I think I was actually divinely guided. I think, you know, my book's about it. my journey for love, but on a deeper journey, it was a spiritual journey back to my connection with God and like the unconditional love that is available to us all. And so I'm, I'm super grateful for what people may call a mistake because it's what led me here. Now, you know, you talk about the environment we're in. And again, I didn't even admit to myself I was actually developing

feelings until after the first round of headlines came out, right? All of a sudden, The headlines during your season When you're there on New York's Eve with him And people are like, oh my gosh, they look cute and flirty Yeah, so you know timeline wise When we were filming full producer mode No actual thoughts of like Oh, I'm falling for this guy

It was more again reflective as I was looking back About these moments But then you know he broke up with Hannah Ann And January and the show's airing on TV And then suddenly a Reddit theory took off like wildfire that he was with me. The time nothing had happened at all. But we got along really well.

Our families had met. They loved each other. Suddenly Barb was praying for us to end up together. My dad says, Julie, I've never seen you this way with a man. And then seemingly the whole world was like actually like rooting for us to end up together. And so here I am the hopeless romantic who's always dreamed of this fairy tale ending. and all of sudden, seemingly the entire world is like rooting for that fairy tale rom-com ending. And then, you know, there was this moment where I almost, you know, Cinderella story became the Bachelorette.

And so all these things were going on in my mind. Yeah, of course. I got caught up in the stories we've been fed and conditioned to want and desire in life as women. Growing up on these rom-coms, growing up watching The Bachelor. There's a reason I went for this job. Like I love, you know, creating these rom-com stories. And so, so yeah, I got caught up in the fairy tale I created. And I was trying to understand whether I actually felt something or if I had gotten mixed up with, you know, the stories I created for a living.

So it became a real difficult, confusing time for me. And I don't, I get it. I mean, I do, Julie. I think that's why when I read the book, well, one, I think all of the, you know, steps in life, the good, the bads, the things that keep us up in night, have this a beautiful ability to pull us back to a creator that calls us to love. And I think that's when I read your book, I mean, that's the story of my life. And I think the story of everybody's life. And I think it's wonderful when you can put it on paper and you can tell the story clearly and you can pull back

some of the things. I mean, in my book, I wrote about my time stealing, you know, painkillers to, from people I love, just to, you know, have a fix and how that led me back to God. Like all these things, right? And that's why I'm cautious here. I'm not picking sides. I'm cautious to to define this with these like large terms that have deep impact in real people's lives. Like you're talking about people that have gone through workplace environments that are unhealthy and their bosses have pressure to push them. Like, I don't want this to be defined by that. It's not that.

And so we need to protect those definitions so that when they are said, we go, okay, that is this and this is this. When you ask me what I think, I, with, and that's why I said, I think some people will disagree with me. I can see how this happens. It does. You were closer in age to the leads of really any producer I had. You know, you were close an age to any lead. And then even during my season, I don't know how familiar you're with this, there were issues with some of the women on my cast, like having crushes on the producers that existed in their lives. And they had to like, hey, refocus.

That's not your guy. We all talked about this behind the scenes, being like, do I have more feelings for so-and-so than Chris? because you are connecting so deeply with them. You're talking all the time. And then when you're in the confessional room, it just feels like you're on almost a date about deep feelings. Yeah. Well, now I'm putting words out there.

I don't mean like you feel like you're on a date, but you're having very intimate conversations. So I think if you're on the show, I sit here and I'm going, oh, we were like maybe two steps away from this happening probably hundreds of times in the course of this franchise where lines would be crossed. And I do think it's an important note to say,

hey, your romantic relationship with Peter happened post show while, you know, you were still hanging out. You were two adults who were, you know, hanging out together. There was no show going on and you found this connection. And I think that's a whole different deal. Like, I wouldn't want to be as an adult told, hey, I can't date this producer that I once, like, was around,

you know, five years later, like they're off limits because at one point in my life, they were a producer on the show. That seems crazy to me. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Am I making sense or am I just being confused? Yeah, of course you're making sense.

This is like such a conval. This is like a, such a weird thing to talk about. I'm friends with you. I'm friends with Nick. I'm probably not close to Peter, but I've always enjoyed our chats. Whenever he comes on, I always think he's the nicest guy. And when I just have to say, as a reader and as somebody who was on the show, And as somebody who is friendly with everyone involved,

I read it very innocently. I feel like most people would. Of course do I understand Peter's annoyances that like your relationship is out there for the world to read. Totally. But I enjoyed reading it like it was a rom-com. It really did feel like it. It didn't feel any, it didn't feel dirty.

It really doesn't. And I don't even think, I think that if he were to read it, I still understand the component of like he wouldn't, like it, you know, like to have that stuff out there. But he doesn't look bad. He's still like, it emphasized to me that he's still like a very sweet, good human being. And you just, you guys just liked each other. There was a special, there was a special connection.

And I don't feel like, I don't really even feel like there was much inappropriate behavior since, I mean, of course, the timing wasn't great. If you guys had hooked up years later, then I don't think it would have been a problem at all. Do you want to get into details about when you ended up sleeping together? Sure. We don't have to. It's in the book. It wasn't during the filming of the season. There was nothing to me in the book that seems like anything inappropriate happened during the filming of the season.

Peter did comment this week on social media saying that there was a moment where you guys were filming his last one-on-one with Hannah Ann. And you said something along the lines of, you're going to look like an idiot if you get this girl Rose. Do you want to first respond to that? Because that was his big release this week was just this one Instagram comment where he said, like, I really wish that this would kept private. I really told her how much it would mean to me if we kept this private. And then he insinuated that things crossed the line when you made that comment about Hannah Ann in the midst of the season. Listen, not my proud is producing moment. And, you know, again, there's a lot that goes on behind the scenes that I'm

not able to talk about and influences above me that are going on that I, unfortunately, again, this is probably ultimately also what led me to leave the show is, you know, yeah, I, sometimes I'm directed to do certain things and I can't, I can't control that. But I mean, let me also say that when I went to Peter's book launch event, he said to me, Julie, you and I should write a book together. So like for him and maybe it was just maybe he was joking around. I don't know. But for him to say he's made multiple attempts, he actually, we had one conversation. He threatened to sue. I said, no problem. I'll connect you with our lawyer. I sent him the lawyer information. This was months ago, which I didn't have to tell him about the book, but I did because I wanted to. And then I,

the lawyer never heard from him. And when we were doing final, edits in January. They said, hey, we'd rather troubleshoot anything now. If you could reach out to him and have him reach out to us, that'd be great. I reached out to him again, say, hey, if you want to get in touch with their lawyer, like, and he just never responded to me. So to say he made like multiple attempts, but also like, by the way, I'm not going to be silenced by a man. Like this isn't, again, this story isn't about Peter. It's about my journey, my journey for love, my healing journey. and, you know, I can't deny the fact that Peter was a big part of it because he really was... I'm super grateful for him because he really was the person who catapult me to leaving the show,

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It's blunt. But do you think that you would have gotten the book deal if it weren't were you telling the Peter story? Oh, probably not. No. Yeah. I mean, it definitely, you know, causes a shakeup. Like, I think the Peter thing.

Of course. I think if I'm honest, and I really just, I'm like, hey, people just need to read the book. Because like you said, Ashley, you said it well, and I'll emphasize it. It doesn't make Peter look bad. He still looks like a nice guy. It is a part of your story, Julie. And it was a big, you know, pivot point in your life to where you left the show because of this romantic relationship.

It is not a tell-all book about your escapades together in whatever capacity. It is a story of your journey through life. And I think many can relate to it, right? A relationship of any kind causing sadness and then revelation and then, you know, moving forward, I think would be the better way to explain this. Obviously, the Peter stuff, though, is such a highlight because it is shocking. It makes headlines. And I can agree with Peter that I would probably be shaking in my boots right now if I haven't read this. Like I'd be really scared, upset, mad, angry that this, you know, moment, private moment is now becoming public.

And I would be like, this is not good. This is not a good thing. But I do want to emphasize that this book is not a tell-all about Peter Weber. It's not. And so we have to look past that. But I'm glad, I mean, I think honesty is going to be the best way to go walk through this until it's released. I'm glad that you can say, yeah, you don't get the book deal without this story. But it's a real story to you, Julie.

This story is impactful to you. And so if you were to write a book just for your own personal library, nobody would ever read it. This story would still be included, I'm assuming. Oh, yeah, of course. It's, you know, it created a big shift in my life. And, you know, for you guys, you have like one headline and then another and then another another. For me, this basically is, you know, in 2020, when those headlines came out, then that followed

me. So every first date started with a giant lie because guys would ask me about this. And I, again, was still dealing with a lot of, like, shame and pain around it. That, you know, you start off all these, like, relationships and conversations and conversations with a giant lie. And sure, I could have, like, gone and just done, like, one interview to free myself of that shame and pain, like, with a People magazine interview, sure. But to me, again, it's not just about that.

And which, by the way, like, also after the headlines came out, Peter, like, kept connecting me with different podcast hosts that want to interview me about the headlines, which I found very strange because I wouldn't go on something like that and lie. I'm just not someone who typically. lies. I'm a very honest, truthful person. And so to be carrying around this lie was like really really hard for me and really painful for me. And going back into the work environment, you know, I did. I felt like I had this scarlet letter on my back. And like it's just not a good place to live. It's not a good. Yeah, it's hard when you, when you kind of just so it really is what led me to

leaving the show. And again, like, yeah, it was a dark time for me. It was, it was hard. I truly feel like you loved him so much. Is he still, like, the big of your life, do you feel? Peter? No. You don't.

No. Okay. No. I'm guessing that's a reference to something. What is the big? Sex in the city. Sex in the city, big. Okay.

Well, I think, like, for example, yes, Carrie ended up with big, the big of your life. And it's interesting because that's what we grew. up seeing, right? But I also see now why big was horrible for her. But I don't think Peter was ever horrible for you. And I also just want to make it clear. It was very much a two-sided thing. Even though you are far more vocal about your feelings toward him, he had feelings for you. It's definitely clear. And you guys had such a strong friendship. It wasn't just a hookup. Like, this isn't just any, I think it felt pretty pure to me. I mean, I think so. I don't think I'm, you know, Everyone's calling me delusional right now.

I don't think I'm... There wasn't coercing or anything. It was like, you guys both were into each other. You were probably into him more. Yeah, I don't even know. I think, like, for a long time, I was actually in full denial, like, right? And then after things happened,

then I started to admit and understand sort of, you know, why this... Understand, like, oh, maybe there is something more there. And then, you know, even our parents coming together and being like, why aren't you... You know, I mean, my dad recalls when we, like, went to the Weber's house and we were all sitting there. This was before anything had happened. And the Weber is saying, you know, we would give our full blessing for you two to end up together.

And Peter and I just sitting there awkwardly. So it's like an interesting thing when you're getting it from everyone, you know? And then, yeah, I'm always one to suppress my feelings. And I never admit to liking a guy. And actually, my journey was about, like, finding my voice and actually being vulnerable and being open to, like, sharing with him how I'd actually felt during this time because because I've always just stayed closed off from sharing my truth with men. So I, that's, you know, as you read in the journey, it was me finally like practicing what I preached on the show and like actually sharing it for myself and sharing

my truth. Julie, obviously we've spent a lot of time talking about the Peter stuff. The reason you wrote this book in the first place was to step beyond. Peter in that time in your life and to move to something greater. You describe it as a spiritual journey to finding healing through a God that loves. Can you elaborate on that a little bit? Yeah. Thank you for asking. You know, when I first left the show and I didn't know what I was doing, I started

studying hypnotherapy and the subconscious mind and, and learning more about sort of, you know, how we're conditioned and we repeat these patterns of the past. But then from that, that was sort of the launch of me finally, like, doing my inner work. And I studied a number of healing modalities, energy healing, tapping, and intuitive development. And through it, I started to, like,

I had some, like, really, like, mystical experiences. Your past life. The story of your past life and how you think you were murdered in it. This is all stuff you guys can read in the book. Yeah. It was pretty powerful. And we had to pull back on some of the woo-woo stuff, surprisingly. There's a lot of woo-woo in there.

Okay. I like to say, I'm just trying to do one woo of the woo-woo. But to me, like, you know, there's so much in this, like, 3D world of, like, go, go, go, go, go. But actually, like, when you're able to tap into this vessel of unconditional love that's around us, God, our angels, our spirit guides, they are there wanting to help us. And people just aren't open to receiving that guidance and that help. And on my journey, I started to tap into that. I think working in Hollywood, I kind of lost touch with God and my connection with God.

You know, I grew up, I grew up very involved in my church. And, yeah, I guess just being around a lot of like atheists and things, it was, it was, Yeah, I pulled away from that connection, but on this journey, I reconnected with it. And now, like, my connection with God is so beautiful. I mean, I'm a feeler. I could actually, like, feel things now. So, like, I mean, if I, it's going to sound crazy, but, like, if I call on my angels, I feel them. Like, I literally feel them hugging me.

It's become, it's really, really powerful. It's super healing. And I believe we all have a spiritual team that's here to, like, help guide us. and angels that are here to help guide us. And when you ask for their help and you ask for their guidance, and you're open to the signs from the universe and the messages they're giving you, they're going to guide you exactly down the path you're supposed to go.

I believe I was actually divinely guided on all this. I was trying to hide my story behind fiction. And I kept getting messages from strangers, intuitives, from meditating, from praying that I really need to share my truth. And it was important. It was an important part of what I want to do now. we're working with women and helping women rewrite their stories going forward, shedding their shame, and actually connecting with the heart space.

And I think when you lead from your heart space and you lead with the guidance from that unconditional love, God, the universe, whatever you want to call it, then you're going to be a guide exactly where you're supposed to go. Julie, do you have a name for this God? Like, is there a tradition that you most relate with right now? Yeah, that's a good question. To me, there's a really great book I read called Soul Boom by Rain Wilson from the office. And he really looks at all the different religions and breaks them down and ultimately shows how they're all kind of have the same like 10 values and the same messaging.

And so for me, I mean, I grew up Christian. I love Christianity. But I've also tapped into Buddhism and meditating and Kabbalah. So I've, I've, I've, I've tapped into them all, and I think they're all beautiful. And I personally believe that they all share a similar message. And it's hard, like, you know, you look at religion and how it's caused so much war in the world and, like, you know, and fights and things like that. And actually, like, all these religions are to me ultimately saying the same message of, you know, loving my neighbor, come from a place of love and everything you do. and the community aspect, I think, is really important.

And it's sad because I feel like we've gotten to a place where we've become a bit of a godless society and there's a lot of separation. And there's something important about all coming together and believing it's something more powerful than us. And to me, I don't care if you call it, you know, God, the universe, Santa Claus, whatever is going to help you accelerate and extend to your highest potential during this life. To me, like this lifetime is a journey for love. we're all on a journey for love. And each moment is to help you connect to it and accelerate to get to that point of being

a vessel of unconditional love in this world. So that's the messaging I want to go with now. I have a show on Eye Heart called Can You Hear Me? Yeah. And it's all about this. It's a Christian show that brings on people to discuss exactly what you're talking about. I think you'd be a great guest to not talk about Peter Weber on that. This is more of that arena.

Yeah, and the honor to go on. Yeah, dive into all the goodness and all the things that are happening. Yeah, I mean, it's really, when you start to surrender to a higher power, your life becomes tremendously more powerful, I think, you know? Yeah, we're not the greatest things out there. I fully believe there is a God that loves and cares. and wants us to know that we have a freedom and joy in that. Julie, the love producer is out July 7th.

It's obviously been in closing here a wild week, a few months, years, as you wrote this book. But the final question I have for you is, after the week of headlines, the week of getting, I mean, goodness, more promotion than I could ever pay for. of people call me a predator. How do you feel?

How are you doing? Yeah. Yeah, it was definitely an interesting week. But again, like you said, you know, no press is bad press. I hope when people actually read it, they see my heart and that's all coming from a place of love. And I hope if I can inspire one woman to, like, you know, not be afraid to share a voice, make the changes that are necessary for her to, like, fully embody, you know, I like to say that leading lady energy and step into their authentic self and it'll all be worth it.

So I'm grateful for it all. I trust in the divine plan of what's unfolding for me. And I just want to continue stepping forward and helping other women on their journey. So I'm just going to stay focused on that. Again, the love producer is out July 7th. Wherever you can buy books, I'm assuming. Yeah, yeah. All the book sites.

I always love to encourage calling your local bookstore and supporting local. So yeah, thank you. I really appreciate you guys having me on and having this conversation. Of course. I'm going to pass it off. This is part of the plan. You and Ashley can continue to dive into all the things that she wants to talk about when it comes to life, the bachelor book. And I'm going to give you guys the space to do that.

I know you have a big event coming up this afternoon. also at Audrey's coffee shop, make sure you use generous coffee there. But this is where I'm going to say goodbye to you, Julie. Best of luck with the book launch. You and Ashley can take it away. And welcome to the world of headlines. They're a ton of fun. Yeah.

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in the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcast. I want to talk before we talk more about Peter. I'm so sorry. Are you so tired of this? Are you so scared every time somebody asks you a question? Yeah, it's, you know, one of the foreign agreements is be impeccable with your words. I'm trying to be very mindful. about what I say.

And also it's interesting because the journey was to like shed the past and let go. Of course, naturally, of course, naturally that's what people are most interested in. I get it. So it's been a good practice for me to see how I could stay grounded in it and all. Yeah. It's just a good pop culture book in general. Even if you're not a huge bachelor fan, even if you didn't watch Peter's season, you're going to enjoy it.

It's about a millennial girl that was like pinnacle millennial. Like you talk about in sync at the VMAs. You had what was the moment? Like they all said hi to you. You like got a picture with that with the VMAs? I manifest a tickets to the VMAs. I just might, I have like a super mom who have still have a super mom who I was like,

can we just drive to New York City? This was my mom too. To try to get a glimpse of in sync at the MTV video music awards on 9-999. And she's like, sure, let's go. Oh, I remember the promos for 999. Yes. And then so we drive, her, me and my friend.

Olivia. And then I find out where people with tickets are. And I'm like, okay, let's go. Let's go try to get a ticket. So we go and I push my way to the front of the barricades and everyone's walking by other tickets. And I'm just like, can I have your ticket? Can I have your ticket? And then this lady stopped and she talked to the cop. And she handed him an envelope. Doesn't. And she pointed at me and then she continued on. And the cop comes up and he goes, well, you just won the golden ticket. This lady wanted me to give you this ticket here. No way. I nearly faint it. And this is before I had cell phones. I ditch my my mom and my mom and my mom was so scared. She just let you go in New York City.

She was like, you're 93 years old. So I was like 14. Yeah, right? Yeah, 14. Wait, how old are you now? I'm 41. Okay. Yeah. So was three years old. And I and I made my way to the red carpet. I actually found the people who gave me the ticket. And then I'm just like, it's insane here. Yeah. And then they came down and I saw Justin. And I saw Justin. And I I said, can I have a hug? And he hugged me. And I was just, you know, I mean, incredible. You just smelled.

Yeah. I didn't watch that outfit. No, of course not. I saw them waving to me from the tour bus when I was 11 or 12. And I was just like, that wave, my mom didn't hear the end of it for, for months, you know? And all it was was just a general wave in that direction. So I mean, I have other. I have other stories.

I mean, you know, you have just. like she is you guys if you guys know me and my like pop culture like millennial self that's what a lot of the first quarter or so of the book is about yeah and then those you know that mindset leads you to the bachelor and then you are kind of living a rom-com where like there are people on a run it out there like rooting for you to be the bachelorette to be with peter in the end and be the ultimate twist of the season and then the last quarter of the book is about a lot about the relationships that you thought were going to lead to marriage. And you going, quote, woo-woo.

And you also, yeah, your whole spiritual journey. And so you're like a, would you say, it's a trained hypnotherapist. Yeah. So I feel like you should come on an episode of housewives. And you should hypnotize them into like having a clear slate with each other. And when I say them, I mean a couple of the ladies that have mad beef. They have to want it. That's one thing in chemotherapy.

You have to want it. You can't force it. It's kind of like seeing a personal trainer, right? You come because you want to change something. Yeah. And so we're working together. But I would love to. I actually really love how some of these housewives are really,

they seem pretty like tapped in. Spiritually? Yeah. There's a few things they were saying that I'm trying to remember now. There's a couple of them. They're really into astrology. Oh, yeah. We do love astrology.

I mean, I've always loved astrology. I'm a Pisces and I so define Pisces. What are you? I'm Aquarius. So you're not even a water sign and I felt like with your emotions, you might be. I know. He's in Aquarius. Oh, Lisa's birthday.

January 31st, Justin Timberlake's birthday. And then also my mom's birthday. Oh, wow. And also the day that my parents met. Isn't that the strangest thing ever? Really? Yeah. And the day that we met Tom Brady for the first time.

Oh, my God. I mean, really weird, right? Yeah. And then that was how I had my Justin Timberlake moment is because my friend was my midwife. And her poster in the second row said with me, I delivered her baby on your birthday. And that's what got him to talk to us. I remember that cook. That was amazing.

Oh, my God. I was so good. Yeah. It's so good. But I just wanted, like, that's what I just kind of let everybody else there know. It's a book about every, like so many things. It's just such a fun, good read. and it's really about you talk like everything is about love so it's really like a biography or an autobiography about like a girl who loves love yeah so that is what you need to take from this when if you're out there thinking like oh is it is it this is it that it's like it's a book about a girl who just like loves love and it's her love journey and now explain how you were once in the true running to become the bachelorette well we're

when all the rumors came out, I get a call from Mike Fleece. And he was like, and I was scared. But again, at the time, nothing had to actually happen. But, you know, like, seeing it all. And like, what's he going to say? He's like, we're loving these rumors. And the story and teller and me sees it as the modern day Cinderella story. And I'm like, yeah, I agree. I mean, I literally pick boogers out of these contestants' noses. And he's like, would you ever consider being the Bachelorette? Like Mike Fleys. Yeah, yeah. And I was like, and Rob Mill, also was on board. Yeah, yeah.

So I end up having like a secret meeting with Mike and Robb. And this was all because of the rumors going on that you may have ended up with Peter. And then a lot of the fandom

started to imagine what if we had somebody from behind the camera live this, especially somebody that people were having like some sort of parasycial relationship with you.

They like really wanted you to have love. Yeah, I got a lot of support. I mean, a little bit of hate but I got a lot of support. Yeah. It was quite like, you know, so then of course,

you not get caught up in that when we grew up on, you know, these rom-coms. And I was like, yes, sign me up. I was clearly, like, starting to be over my job at that point. It was just really, like, I think mentally and emotionally draining. And so I was like, yeah, sounds great. And then, yeah, so we had a secret meeting about it. It went really well, I thought. They seemed really excited about it. But, you know, in the end, my immediate boss is shut it down. I think they... Who has the ultimate say, or is it collaborative? Like everybody must be in a great. It's pretty collaborative.

Yeah. I mean, Mike at the time was, you know, the head guy. But at the same time, you know, the people that are actually there. Yeah, there's a lot of them. There's a lot of them. So a lot of people are wondering how you, a producer, write a quote, tell-all, which that's the thing. It's not without breaking NDA, without breaking rules.

I don't think in the book that you ever really talk to specifically about the ins and outs of production. And I'm saying, I'm answering the question for you. Yeah. I don't think that there's anything broken there. What's your answer? To me, it's about my experience as a girl, navigating my own journey for love while climbing, you know, a career in Hollywood and sort of the, how that kind of pulled me

away from my own love story and then trying to reclaim that. And so it's all from my perspective and my emotions and my feelings. I had a lawyer that used to review the books of the show, review it for me, and she felt clear that I was okay. So, yeah. And Chris Harrison writes the foreword. How was that ask? Well, it was the first time I actually told anyone from the show about what happened.

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Whether you're a lifelong fan or this is your first World Cup. We've got you covered. Listen, Inside American Soccer with Tom Bogart and Tabramos in the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcast. What was your relationship like during the show? Chris? Oh, I love Chris. Yeah. We had a great relationship. Aw. I'm really grateful for his support and kindness. Aw. Yeah. Yeah. Where did you leave off with Peter? So in the book, like, I don't even really want to give a lot of spoilers. But in the book, you have the moment where you tell him about your feelings, which is different than like your physical moments. When you tell him about your feelings, he received it.

very kindly, of course. And again, this is like another moment where I was just like, Peter is like very good guy and he's very clearly a good guy through the entire book. Where did your friendship leave off after the telling of those feelings? Yeah. You know, we. Was it awkwardly? Was it like, oh, okay, so she likes me so we can't really be friends anymore?

We hadn't been talking as much. Well, we, it was, you know, he had moved to New York. Yeah. And then, you know, he was dating Kelly for a while. So, yeah, you know, there are times when we reconnected and then didn't. So it was kind of like this. But after that, I mean, we were like fine, you know, like. You see him again after that in person?

I think I ran into him again at stagecoach. Oh, really? Yeah. I thought that like you guys were going to have a romantic rekindling. I don't want to spoil the book, okay? Because you do like, you write it in such a way that the Peter stuff sprinkles. And I'm always eager to get to the next Peter moment. Because it was very cute, okay?

Oh, thank you. No, and I think actually, like, after I had that conversation with him, it's, you know, and I talk about this in the book, how we sort of like, sometimes you build things up in your head more when you're removed from the person. Oh, yeah. Oh, there's a lot of, like, holding on to the what is and what could have been. Oh, the what is and the hope and all that stuff when you're not seeing them consistently. It'll drag something out that should have been a month. It'll do years.

Yeah. Yeah. And then, like, for a while I was working on this fictional story. was kind of still like living in it in a weird way. And again, you know, you talk about this sort of like illusion and, you know, I created these fairy tales on TV. Then all of a sudden I was like writing this fairy tale and then like wondering if I could actually produce my own fairy tale. So it's a, you know, and then again, like once I had the conversation, I was like, oh, God, oh, it took us one call. But so I'm afraid to have these like really vulnerable

conversations and express how we feel. Your heart must have been beating out of your chest making that call. Yeah, it was actually, it was actually okay. Oh, yeah? I think for me, it was more just, I just needed to say it to like put behind the possibilities. And like, and afterwards I felt so great. I felt at peace and ready to put that chapter fully behind me. So how do I feel heartbroken.

I feel for Peter and I also feel for you in the status of your relationship now. how do you how do you feel like how do you currently feel knowing that he said like one of somebody that was once such like a best friend to you is like I'm a can't I feel very angry towards you

and so much so that I would like to sue you like how does that like sit with you today I think if there's any doubt in my mind that we should be together I have clarity now but no how is it yeah no I you know I think he's operating from a place of fear, understandably so. And all I could do is send him love. And I think,

you know, people come into your life for like a reason season or lifetime. And I think it came into my life for a reason. And I'm grateful for what the situation with him led me to. So I, yeah, I'm at peace with not staying friends. It's okay. Yeah, I feel bad that he's like so upset. I don't, you know, again, I think like I knew intuitively that I needed to share this story for again, it's not just a tell all about Peter. It's my journey and my story that he was a part of supporting character for, if you will. And so I knew I had to share it.

And for so many years, I didn't, I think, because of not wanting to hurt him. And again, like I, you know, I've let men, I think, hold me back a lot in the past. And I just won't let them do that anymore. Yeah. To the people who say, this is a money grab, she could have written a diary, she didn't have to share it with the world. What do you say? Yeah, I think for me, there's a, there's a greater purpose in all this in terms of like the work I do now and the spiritual journey I've been on and the things I've been uncovering. Actually, I mean, to be completely honest, my bigger hope in all this is to bridge that gap between that woo-woo world and the mainstream bachelor audience. in actually like kind of a funny approachable way because the things that I've been uncovering on my spiritual journey have been like super powerful. Me, really magical.

We're actually like really magical human beings that are capable of so much more than we're conditioned to believe in this world. And that's the work I do now. And that's the message I want to spread. And again, it's all about like actually tapping into this vessel of unconditional love that's available to all of us.

And so my journey for, love is what I want to continue to help other people do is go on their own journey. Yes. This all makes sense when you read the book. Yeah. It's very fluid. So what do you do today? Because you have, would you call it like a life coaching through the love producer?

Yeah. It's love producer.com? The love producer.com. Yeah, I've watched a business as a love producer. So kind of blending my old storytelling world of the bachelor world. So on my journey, I studied a number of modality. hypnotherapy, coaching, energy, healing, tapping. So now as a love producer, I work with women

help guide them on their journey for love. And so, like, any leading lady, you have to look at the backstory, right? Just like on the show. But let's look at your backstory. And what are those stories you're telling yourself? What is that programming from, you know, your first experience with love? Like, right? For me, like, my first boyfriend betrayed me.

and that's stuck in my subconscious. And so on a subconscious level, I kept pulling in these guys that never fully chose me. And so actually now that I have like these tools so we could look at your backstory and how do you want to rewrite it going forward. So I'll work with clients

to actually do the deeper healing work to break through those subconscious blocks and patterns so that you could actually produce the love and life you desire from the inside out. Yeah. And I'm doing a retreat at Playa Escondita in December. No way. Playa Escondida guys.

that is where we shot Bachelor. That's not the OG home, but the most known home of Bachelor in Paradise. That is so cool. What a great spot for it. How many people can go? It's going to be a smaller group

for this first one. That seems like a very exclusive situation. Yeah, I think we're going to limit it to like 15. But yeah, so it'll be like five days there and come, let me be your love producer. But I'm going to bring different experts that help me on my journey too. So we'll have a number of workshops

to actually help people, like, go deeper on their journey for love. Mix them with some fun group dates and stuff, too. So now you're going to have the millionaire matchmaker Patty Stinger question asked you, asked to you. Well, if you're not married, why do I use your guidance? Yeah. Where is your stance? What's your relationship status right now?

Oh, I had a complete imposter syndrome for forever. But to me, like, again, love is not, like, romantic relationships are all there. to help you tap into the own love available to you. So each relationship is there as a tool to help you grow and expand to this level of unconditional love that we are. I'm grateful that I never like settled. And I realized I had to go on this inner journey

to actually be in a place, like even the type of men I want now has changed once I've gotten to know myself more. Sometimes so many people seek love externally before actually finding it within themselves. So really that's what it's. about. For me, I, you know, I'm open to dating. I date, but I've been a little bit for like a year and a half now. I realize like we're all energy and so like I'm very like protective of my space,

but I believe the guys that come into my life are for a reason. And so like even if I go on a date, it's like, okay, what am I learning about myself from it? So that's great. That's a really cool way to go on a date honestly. Yeah. That's like taking a little pressure off. Yeah. They all come in for a reason. So if you could, you know, we either repeat the same patterns with men, right? We'll either keep repeating the same kind of relationship over and over. But once you bring awareness to that, it's like, okay, what are the lessons from this relationship? And how do I change them in the next, the next? Yeah. Oh, I'm so, I'm, um, this is very interesting. And I'm excited about you having a conversation with one of my best friends, Nas Perez. You're doing it next week, right? On, on Friday.

At the Grove. Okay. Yeah. Because you guys, unbelievably similarly similar. similar situations, both little bit woo-woo, both batch and producers that were total hopeless romantics, did it in your 20s and 30s. That's going to be so interesting to hear you guys talk about. So make sure that that's recorded somehow. Yeah. Yeah. I'm really excited and shot with her.

All right. Well, you guys can get the love producer on Amazon, of course, at the love producer. And basically anywhere books are sold. I feel like this is such a wide release. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anywhere books are sold. I always encourage to call your local bookstore. Okay.

Yeah. Support the locals. Yeah. All right. And it's out. Is it out now? July 7. July 7.

No, no. This is being released. Yeah. So it's out now. Yeah. And congratulations on, you know, getting this chapter of your life out there. Because we know that it means a lot that you put it out there. Thank you.

Thank you. I appreciate your support. Of course. Congratulations. And love to all involved in this conference. Yeah. Bye. I send them all love. Follow the Ben and Ashley I, almost famous podcasts on IHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.

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