The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Frankie Friday BTS Dates & Feet Pics

Episode Date: December 5, 2025

Taylor Frankie Paul is giving Bachelor Nation glimpses into filming her upcoming season! Ben and Ashley break down what we know so far, and giving you the latest drama happening with Taylor's ex!...See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. I know he has a reputation, but it's going to catch up to him. Gabe Ortiz is a cop. His brother Larry, a mystery Gabe didn't want to solve until it was too late. He was the head of this gang. You're going to push that line for the cause. Took us under his wing and showed us the game, as they call it.
Starting point is 00:00:22 When Larry's killed, Gabe must untangle a dangerous past, one that could destroy everything he thought he knew. Listen to the brothers Ortiz. the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Stefan Curry, and this is Gentleman's Cut. I think what makes Gentleman's Cut different is me being a part of, you know, developing the profile of this beautiful finished product. With every sip, you get a little something different.
Starting point is 00:00:48 Visit Gentleman's Cut Bourbon.com or your nearest Total Wines or Bevmo. This message is intended for audiences 21 and older. Gentleman's Cut Bourbon, Boone County, Kentucky. For more on Gentleman's Cut Bourbon, please visit gentlemen's cuthurban.com. Please enjoy responsibly. Hey everybody, it's Chuck and Josh
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Starting point is 00:02:20 She received death threats before the bombing. She received more threats after the bombing. I think that this is a deliberate attempt to sabotage our movement. Episodes of Rip Current Season 2 are available now. Listen on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is the Ben and Ashley I, Almost Famous Podcasts with IHartRadio. It's the Almost Famous Podcast. We're here today with you for another Frankie Friday, where we break down all the latest news and headlines going on with our soon-to-be Bachelorette, Taylor, Frankie Paul.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Ashley All right, we've been teasing these headlines for a while we're finally going to run them down I'm excited to do that the girl has been giving us lots of content because well maybe it's not her
Starting point is 00:03:11 maybe it's ABC is not hiding what she is doing out during this season we've seen her at a Cowboys game we've seen her out in Vegas and they're allowing it and we are down for it We're seeing who she's smooching.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Who's already that far in the process? It's interesting because she is our first lead that I can remember that ABC is allowed to still have their camera and access to their socials. She probably has like a few a day. Yeah. I read an article where somebody said, well, of course they have to let her have her socials. It's her job. To my response being, wait, everybody else has to give up their job to go on the show.
Starting point is 00:03:54 why doesn't she? Now, I'm glad she has her social. It's like, thank you. Good point, good point. But Ben, my guess is that they are taking most 95% of the footage. They're creating content and then they're posting through her. But I don't think that she's like on their hands on every day. No, I would be shocked.
Starting point is 00:04:16 I think it's smart for them to let her have her socials. And I think it's fine that they do. My point was not that it's a bad thing. that she has her social media, I'm just saying the argument cannot be, of course, it's her job. It's like, well, it's everybody's job that goes on the show. And we all leave them to go on the show and she gets to keep her social media, which is great
Starting point is 00:04:36 because it's picking up traction for this season that I think is so necessary. So necessary. For the future of the franchise. And because she's had access to her socials, we're not going to spoil anything here. But we're going to do, we do want to break down. Well, we're not going to,
Starting point is 00:04:54 No names. No names. No, nobody wants a spoiler. Oh, I think we can play the game this year, like putting names in there. How about we just say... Last time we did that, it was a massive fit. Nobody liked it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:08 All right. Nobody wanted spoilers. Okay, fine. I'll just refer to them like this first headline. The one about her kissing a suitor in Vegas. That is the first headline, Taylor Scene Kissing Souter in Las Vegas. Okay. He's one of the guys that.
Starting point is 00:05:24 we picked as being a frontrunner. He's very cute. And I can just tell by the body language in these photos that she really likes him as predicted. The next headline comes on November 18th. Taylor has an NFL date. Now, if you listen to our Game of Roses crossover show that we did here on the most famous podcast, it's very worth listening to. The Game of Roses has a theory that The Bachelor is very tied into the NFL, to which Ashley and myself responded with, of course, yes, the show loves the NFL. Every year they have an NFL date.
Starting point is 00:06:01 They've had an NFL hosts, NFL leads. Goodness gracious, they love the NFL. Well, this season is no different. We are used to public dates. For some reason, this just feels bigger because it was broadcast on television during the moment. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:06:21 Like, people, or normally when there's a public date, it's a theater, and people probably sign something when walking into the theater. This is like an actual public event with like 100,000 people there at the Cowboy Stadium. And, or what, was AT&T? A, T, and T. I didn't want to be incorrect in that. Just call it Jerry's World. Jerry's World. Yeah. So they are in a suite and the guy is wearing. a team Taylor jacket
Starting point is 00:06:52 and he's got like he's holding a football Taylor's touching his shoulder we're just like seeing actual interaction almost as if it's Taylor Swift in the suite and they're on the JumboTron they have not been hidden
Starting point is 00:07:09 about this season which is kind of shocking to me actually because you would think on a season that has a lead that is so well known they would actually do their best to go into the Bachelor bubble and not be seen by the public at all, which used to be the case. But this season, it does feel like they've been out and about, including a date at Union Square Holiday Market in New York City. This was shown November 30th,
Starting point is 00:07:35 which is late for them to still be filming, if I'm honest. We knew that was going to happen because they started so late that they were going to go through Thanksgiving, but it's super strange to see them doing like a Christmas themed date. It looks to be the same guy from the previous NFL date. Is it weird, Ashley, as you think about it, for them to be doing a Christmas-themed date when this isn't going to air until March? So I don't think they care about looking like they're alive because she's been so post-y on Instagram that we all know when she was filming this thing.
Starting point is 00:08:15 We don't need to hide that this has been in past tense. It's still going to be weird to why. watch Christmas in March. But hey, I'm all for it because I think it's going to be a great season. I'm Stefan Curry, and this is Gentleman's Cut. I think what makes Gentleman's Cut different is me being a part of developing the profile of this beautiful finished product with every sip you get a little something different. Visit Gentleman'scut bourbon.com or your nearest Total Wines or Bevmo. This message is
Starting point is 00:08:50 intended for audiences 21 and older. Gentlemen's Cup Bourbon, Boone County, Kentucky. For more on Gentleman's Cut Bourbon, please visit gentlemen's cuthuburn.com. Please enjoy responsibly. What up, y'all? It's your boy, Kevin on stage. I want to tell you about my new podcast called Not My Best Moment,
Starting point is 00:09:09 where I talk to artists, athletes, entertainers, creators, friends, people I admire who had massive success about their massive failures. What did they mess up on? What is their heartbreak? And what did they learn from him? I got judged horribly. The judges were like, you're trash. I don't know how you got on the show.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Boo, somebody had tomatoes. No, I'm kidding. But if they had tomatoes, they would have thrown the tomatoes. Let's be honest. We've all had those moments we'd rather forget. We bumped our head. We made a mistake. The deal fell through.
Starting point is 00:09:39 We're embarrassed. We failed. But this podcast is about that and how we made it through. So when they sat me down, they were kind of like, we got into the small talk, And they were just like, so what do you got? What? What ideas?
Starting point is 00:09:51 And I was like, oh, no. What? Check out Not My Best Moment with me, Kevin on stage, on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, everybody, it's Chuck and Josh from the Stuff You Should Know podcast, and it's that time of year again when we knuckle down to do our annual holiday episodes. We collected our best past classic holiday episodes and compiled them into a 12 Days of Christmas Toys playlist that the whole family can enjoy. That's right. Maybe you missed it the first time we detailed the history of Beanie Babies, Monopoly, or Yo-Yo's, and a whole lot more. So listen to the 12 Days of Christmas Toys playlist on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Starting point is 00:10:53 Join me, Josh Dean, investigative journalists. And me, Roy Scoville, comedian, as we celebrate the amazing creativity of the world's dumbest criminals. We'll look into some of the silliest ways folks have broken the laws. Honestly, it feels more like a high-level prank than a crime. Who catfishes a city? And meets some memorable anti-heroes. There are thousands of angry, horny monkeys. Clap if you think she's a witch, and it freaks you out.
Starting point is 00:11:20 He has x-ray vision. How could I not follow him? Honestly, I got to follow me. He can see right through me. Listen to Crimless on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Dad had the strong belief that the devil was attacking us. Two brothers, one devout household, two radically different paths. Gabe Ortiz became one of the highest-ranking law enforcement officers.
Starting point is 00:11:47 in Texas. 32 years. Total law enforcement experience. But his brother Larry, he stayed behind and built an entirely different legacy. He was the head of this gang and nobody was going to tell him what to do. You're going to push that line for the calls. Took us under his wing and showed us the game, as they call it. When Larry is murdered, Gabe is forced to confront the past he tried to leave behind and uncover secrets he never saw coming.
Starting point is 00:12:12 My dad had a whole other life that we never knew about. Like, my mom started screaming my dad's name, and I just heard one gunshot. The Brothers Ortiz is a gripping true story about faith, family, and how two lives can drift so far apart and collide in the most devastating way. Listen to the Brothers Ortiz on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. One of the entertaining factors and one of the entertaining factors and one of the people that are so excited that Taylor Frankie Paul is our bachelor is Crocs. Crocs is going to absolutely blow up from this season. They are going to get the absolute best advertising from this season of all time because Taylor Frankie Paul loves her Crocs. Headlines this, Taylor's been posting
Starting point is 00:13:06 cryptic feet shots on Instagram. Looks like with some of the guys. I love the fact that she has been posting videos with some people that we actually know in the background like her producers are in the background of the videos and I'm glad that she's friends with them they're one of the remaining people or a couple of people that are there on the show familiar faces yeah um so it's fun to see a little bit of the behind the scenes with them now onto things that are about her exes and I know that it's rumored that her exes might be making a little appearance on the show which I mean that would be a wasted opportunity if they didn't wrong yes wasted opportunity definitely brooks nadir addresses sean white and dakota mortensen dating rumors okay so brooks nadir you know
Starting point is 00:13:58 the model who is on dancing with the stars she is setting the record straight about a relationship status because she was photographed chatting with dakota taylor's ex at the show's premiere on november 11th at the Secret Wives and Mormon Wives Premier in New York on November 11th. She said, I love all the Mormon wives. I love the show. We're both in the Hulu gang.
Starting point is 00:14:24 She has a show too. I just met him for the first time. And we were just chatting like normal people and it got spun out of control. And there's a rumor that we left together and I actually left with my sisters. We went to dinner. So things just spun out of control.
Starting point is 00:14:39 She did say that he's super cute but there is nothing more going on than that. The final headline is also related to Dakota Mortensen. Mormon wives Dakota Mortensen throws major shade at our Bachelorette and his ex, Taylor Frankie Paul's Bachelorette stint. All righty. So there is this controversial TikTok that Dakota put out there. It's not controversial. He's being a little conceited, though.
Starting point is 00:15:11 he's bopping his head he's just in the overlay reads when you realize you can date 30 girls without being on a TV show because he's just so wonderful and the fan reaction is not very good yeah it kind of it's it's odd to me I think this will be an interesting storyline going forward maybe not odd to me it makes sense to me it'll be an interesting thing for us to follow is this dynamic between Taylor Frankie Paul and her ex who also has a following and their
Starting point is 00:15:47 desire or their ability to be so public about their feuds. What will that look like during the season? As it airs, as she dates, I think it's going to be something to follow and pay attention to. I hope it doesn't distract though
Starting point is 00:16:03 from this season. I know we went into this and I know we expected messiness and I just hope it doesn't distract from what it's happening on our screens and the relationships that happen on our screens. I want all the stuff to happen there. I don't need all this other stuff happening where like we get a bunch of, you remember, what was it? A couple of years ago, Jin's X showed up trying to make a name for himself and he like really was into himself and he now is like trying to build this like Instagram following from it. That was annoying to me. That was stupid. That was dumb.
Starting point is 00:16:32 I don't want to follow that guy. Dakota already has this taste of success and fame, a taste of fame. so I don't think he's gonna like let it die I see him kind of being Scott Dissick has become very much like a beloved figure but for a while he was the irresponsible guy that everybody was just like why is Courtney sticking with him
Starting point is 00:16:56 and I feel like in a way Dakota is going to be this Scott figure or he's just going to linger around for a long time I mean she has kids with him just like Scott and I think he's going to going to be very entertaining for us, but I also think fundamentally are just going to be like,
Starting point is 00:17:12 what's up with this guy? Come on. Yeah. And hopefully she just finds someone who's less of a dick. And am I wrong in saying that he comes across kind of dickish? I've only watched the first, like, half of the first season. I haven't seen any of it. I know nothing about the guy. People love him, though. People love him, but he's a problem. That's exactly why I said he was Scott Dissick. Because like everybody loves Scott Dissick, but like we understood that in the relationship, he was kind of a problem. I mean, don't even get me started with Courtney these days. That's a whole other topic. So it's interesting. I think people are going to have a, they're going to want to see him because people have complicated feelings toward him. So much to look forward to. This has been Frankie Friday.
Starting point is 00:17:52 I'm telling you, we're going to do these leading up to the premiere of Taylor Frankie Paul's Bachelorette season because I think there's a lot for us to learn about her and her other show and her life before the season starts so that we can kind of be up to speed with everybody else as it airs. That's kind of the strategy here to do Frankie Fridays
Starting point is 00:18:17 is all of us as listeners have to get educated. We'll do the work in the back end and we'll talk about it here on the front end so that all of us as almost famous listeners and watchers of the show
Starting point is 00:18:30 can be prepared for the upcoming season of The Bachelorette. But until next time, I've been Ben. I've been Ashley. See you guys. Follow the Ben and Ashley I, almost famous podcasts on IHartRadio,
Starting point is 00:18:42 or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts. I know he has a reputation, but it's going to catch up to him. Gabe Ortiz is a cop. His brother Larry, a mystery Gabe didn't want to solve until it was too late. He was the head of this gang. You're going to push that line for the cause? Took us under his wing and showed us the game, as they call it. When Larry's killed, Gabe must untangle a dangerous past.
Starting point is 00:19:06 one that could destroy everything he thought he knew. Listen to the Brothers Ortiz on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Stefan Curry, and this is Gentleman's Cut. I think what makes Gentleman's Cut different is me being a part of developing the profile of this beautiful finished product. With every sip, you get a little something different. Visit Gentleman's Cut Bourbon.com or your nearest Total Wines or Bevmo.
Starting point is 00:19:33 This message is intended for audiences 21 and older. Gentleman's Cut Bourbon, Boone County, Kentucky. For more on Gentleman's Cut Bourbon, please visit gentleman's cutbuburn.com. Please enjoy responsibly. Hey, everybody, it's Chuck and Josh from the Stuff You Should Know podcast, and it's that time of year again when we knuckle down to do our annual holiday episodes.
Starting point is 00:19:53 We collected our best past classic holiday episodes and compiled them into a 12 days of Christmas toys playlist that the whole family can enjoy. That's right, maybe you missed it the first time we detailed the history of Beanie Babies, Monopoly, yo-yo's and a whole lot more. So listen to the 12 Days of Christmas Toys playlist on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:20:13 or wherever you get your podcasts. Have you ever listened to those true crime shows and found yourself with more questions than answers? Who catfishes a city? Is it even safe to snort human remains? Is that the plot of Footloose? I'm comedian Rory Scoville, and I'm here to tell you,
Starting point is 00:20:30 Josh Dean and I have a new podcast that celebrates the amazing creativity of the world's dumbest criminals It's called Crimeless, a true crime comedy podcast. Listen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Danny Shapiro. We were in the car, like a Rolling Stone came on, and he said, there's a line in there about your mother. And I said, what?
Starting point is 00:20:54 What I would do if I didn't feel like I was being accepted is choose an identity that other people can't have. I knew something had happened to me in the middle of the night, but I couldn't hold on to what had happened. These are just a few of the moving and important stories on my 13th season of Family Secrets. Listen to Family Secrets on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast, guaranteed human.

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