The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Frankie Friday: Hooking Up With An Ex?!

Episode Date: December 12, 2025

Trista Sutter is here with Producer Heather to get you ready for Taylor Frankie Paul’s season of The Bachelorette with another edition of Frankie Friday!Taylor seems to be dropping some clues with a look at her Bachelorette playlist and the books she’s reading while in the mansion, but does she even have time to read???We get you up to speed on the drama around Marciano from Vanderpump Villa, and what might be going on between Taylor and her ex… Plus, how does Taylor balance her responsibilities as a mom with being the lead of a Bachelorette season??See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We are talking Frankie Friday. If you don't know what Frankie Friday is, let me give you a clue. The Bachelorette. Our next Bachelorette, Taylor, Frankie Paul. And every Friday leading up to The Bachelorette, we are going to be talking all things Taylor, Frankie Paul to just tune you in, get you informed about who our next Bachelorette is. And I am joined by Heather Mundy, our lovely producer for Almost Famous. So it's just us to chat in the chat.

Hi, how are you? This is perfect. I want to know, Trista, like how much on a scale of 1 to 10, one being nothing, 10 being superfan, would you say you know? know when it comes to Taylor Frankie Paul. Oh, gosh, I am really low on that spectrum because I didn't know who she was prior to her now. I mean, I had heard her name. I knew what Mom Talk was or at least had heard of Mom Talk, but I had never watched Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. Okay, so Frankie Friday is perfect for somebody like you then because you're going to be learning so much about her leading up. By the time March rolls around, you're going to be like, Taylor Frankie Paul, I know her mom. I know her

kids' names. I know her exes. You're going to know it all. And that's what anybody listening, if you're like, you know, Trista and you don't know everything about the lead, this will hopefully get you as excited as some of us who do know more about her because they're dropping a lot of stuff. And we're not doing any spoilers. I want to say that. We're not spoiling, you know, who we see in these videos or who the top ones are. We're not doing that. Okay. We still want it to be a very enjoyable season. We're just talking about certain things we're seeing in the headlines that could possibly show up on the show. So a little bit of discretion on that. Like, we're not ruining the season for anybody. Perfect. I love it. I love being able to go into the season knowing who she is

as a person. Because usually people get to know the lead because they were on, you know, a previous show and were recycled. So I feel like now with this, this can be people's one-stop shop to getting to know all about Taylor, Frankie Paul. For sure. And I think, listen, you know this as well since you were the first Bachelorette and you came from season one of The Bachelor. Did you feel like the audience really got to know you from your first season on The Bachelor? Or did they really get to know you a lot more when you were the bachelorette because you were one of 20 something women, you probably got really limited screen time, even though you went, you know, incredibly far to the final on that series. Like, would you say that? Like, I think, I guess my question is, did you feel like

the audience knew you, really knew you during your time on Bachelor Nation? Or did that come more after Bachelor Nation when you were with, you know, Ryan and sharing that, you know, part of your love journey. I feel like people got to know me, like maybe the basics, you know, the, like, foundation of who I was on The Bachelor. And then, you know, they knew I was a pediatric physical therapist, a Miami Heat cheerleader, that I lived in Miami, that, you know, certain things that I want. wanted a family, you know, those, those kind of things. So they learned some basics about me,

but I feel like for sure they got to know me during The Bachelor at, because when you're a contestant versus, and I hate calling it a contestant, but that's what we're calling it, versus the lead, you get obviously way more time in front of the cameras, and you're talking all about what you want out of life. So that's way more than just the basics, you know? So people definitely got to know me as the bachelorette and then even more so afterwards with like interviews that we did talking about you know just life and um not being edited necessarily you know and being able to just speak our mind as um as in real time i think like as as a as a fan of the show for so many years i could say that you know there were you know leads where i had watched them previously

and watch them, you know, go through the show where I was like, yeah, like I really, you know, think I know what they're looking for in terms of love. I don't know if I could ever say who their exes were, what their, you know, what they grew up in, you know, what they did for a living maybe, like all of these things, I like feel like I know Taylor already on a different level, which is like, it's really making me invested for this season because I've already seen her attempt to love. I've already seen it. So I'm like, I already know a little bit of like what to expect.

So I guess like for people that don't know her or haven't watched the show, it is going to feel very different. But for a lot of us that have watched and I know there's a lot of us because the numbers are huge on her show, it's going to be interesting because we do. just, I just know it. I know I've talked to other fans. We feel very invested in her journey already. Totally because Secret Lives is, you know, a docu-series. So they're following them in their real life. It's not a dating show as Bachelorette is. So you definitely have gotten to know her in her daily everyday life. And yes, some of them, some of the locations or activities or

whatever they do, I assume, are probably scripted. You know, the producers are like, hey, let's go, whatever. But then maybe it's something that she wouldn't choose normally. But I feel like they are, you're definitely getting to know someone like a Kardashian or like Jessica and Nick back in the day. You know, like those kind of series where you're following these people in their everyday life. You're definitely getting to know her. So that's so true.

Jessica and Nick from newlyweds is a perfect example. That's a perfect example of how people are so invested in Jessica Simpson's life and were for so long because of that show. So perfect example, yes. Yeah, I feel like we get to follow along. And in Bachelorette, you're getting to follow along in their life's choices. Like the biggest decision I feel like that you make in life is, you know, the partner that you choose for the rest of your life. Yeah. So I feel like that's a big decision and a big, um, You find out a lot about a person in going through that process, but you don't like follow them along with taking their, you know, kids on vacation and dealing with the drama of all of that and dealing with the drama of exes and dealing with the drama of family life and, you know, all of that. So I think it'll be really interesting to see. You're right.

There's such a huge following for secret lives. And I hope it's going to translate. But we're just here as almost famous to like share all about her so everyone else can join in to, you know, the fan base and we can root for her. And the ultimate hope is that if she does make a love connection that we then see this person on Secret Lives after and we get to see what I think all Bachelor Nation fans have always wanted, which is the after the proposal part of the relationship that we've really never gotten to seen outside. side of like, I'm pretty sure that Ben and Lauren were the only Bachelor Nation couple in history to ever get their own reality show. So, you know, we've never really gotten to see that from people. So that would be the ultimate if we got to see that too. But let's dive into these headlines. I'll let you kick it off. Okay. So we've got a headline. Taylor Frankie

Paul turns up the heat in a sexy red lace dress for the Bachelorette Rose ceremony. I have not seen this picture. So I just saw when you asked if I had read the, or seen the TikToks, I just saw the ones you texted me. I didn't know this was... No worries. So it's all good. If you want to take a second and click on it and look at it

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the mailroom on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your favorite shows. I mean, honestly, she is a gorgeous girl, like gorgeous girl. And I feel like she is very sexy. And that's, like, part of, I feel like, who she is. She likes to be, like, what's the word? She likes to show off her assets. She likes to show off what, what was God made and what was plastic surgeon made or whatever it was. I don't know if she's had plastic surgery, but, hey, if you've got it, flaunt it. Exactly.

She is gorgeous. No joke. what we as fans have always gotten to see her in is sweatpants. I mean, the girl loves a good track suit. She loves Crocs. She's super open about that. My favorite thing was after season one was such a hit. She totes around this goyard tote now, tote bag.

And I was like, oh, that is like her new character. Like similar to Jessica Simpson with the Louis Vuitton back in the day, Taylor always has this boyard tote now, which I think is so funny. I'm sorry. I don't even know what that is. But yes, it's a good thing. It's a high-end French French designer bag. Yeah, that's, I mean, I'm just clueless. I know Louie. I don't know Goyard. All good. So seeing her in these, you know, typical bachelorette gowns is kind of a new thing for us. Because yes, we see her dressed up for the secret lives of Mormon wives reunions. All the girlies do really glamorous looks for that. But in the day to day, we do not see that. And I think that fans wondering, you know, oh, is she going to be herself like when she's doing this? Or is she going to

really kind of fit more into the format? And I really think they're doing a little mix of both because we have some feet picks that we talked about in a previous episode where she has been Instagramming her feet along with, it looks like a man, whoever she's with. We don't know Got it. But we've seen some crocs. We've seen some boots. So I'm under the impression that she's kind of doing a mixture of both where she's being herself maybe during the day and she's kind of getting a little glam for the rose

ceremonies. That's what I'm... Well, I feel like also, most of us are, like, in our daily life are wearing sweats or, you know, comfy clothes. Exactly. Same. I mean, even though it's not a hoodie, it's a sweatshirt. so I feel like that's probably a part of who she is and we just haven't I guess from what you're saying gotten to see a lot of the glam stuff from mom talk except for like when they do have to do glam with reunions or with any of the TikToks or whatever because I know I have seen some of her TikToks where she's like you know doing the transition from like before she gets ready to after and she's like hello I'm drop dead gorgeous so I feel like that's

part of who she is. And I love seeing all parts of everybody. I love, you know. This TikTok that we're talking about in the clip, she and Jesse Palmer are, you know, joked about what their conversations should sound like during every rose ceremony and Taylor mouths over the sound. I don't know what to say. And Jesse replies, just be yourself. Say something nice. And she goes back, which one? I can't you both. So, you know, the humor is not lost. I think we're going to have some really funny moments. I'm curious to get your take, though, on this next headline.

This is me being super sleuth. Because she is an influencer and a TikToker, she's putting out a lot of content still while she's, you know, filming. But I took some screenshots of these Instagram stories because I thought they were interesting. So she shot the book she's currently reading and a screenshot of her playlist that she's listening to while she is filming. So she's currently reading Emotional Intelligence Mindfulness by Harvard Business Review. It is a collection of articles by a number of authors.

And kind of the synopsis of this book is it features smart essential reading on the human side of professional life from the pages of Harvard Business. review. Each book in this series offers proven research showing how our emotions impact our work lives, practical advice for managing difficult people in situations, and inspiring essays on what it means to tend to our emotional well-being at work. Wow, that's a lot. And it makes me want to ask you, I know it was a long time ago, do you remember what you were reading when you were the Bachelorette? Nothing. I didn't have time to read. That's what my comment was going to be. Oh, my God. No, I was, I was journaling because I wanted to write down what was happening, my feelings, and that was kind of like my therapy of going through it and having someone to talk to. It was my journal.

But yeah, I feel like you rarely, rarely have time to read. And I feel like when I read, when I read, I need for it to be like, all the things are done, you know, things are crossed off my to-do list. And not that that ever happens, because the list is ongoing and constant, but I feel like if there's things going on in my life that I'm like, oh, crap, I have to do this and this and this and this and this and my brain is going crazy. I just can't focus on reading. So good for her for reading. If she's actually getting it done, because I don't know, I would assume that most Bacheloretts are in the same boat, that you just don't have a lot of time. Well, her playlist that she shared is titled Airplane, and it contains

songs like Bruce Springsteen's, I'm on Fire, Mazzie Star, fade into you, Fleetwood Mac landslide, and Morgan Wallens cover me up. So were you surprised at all when I put these songs together, like just even bare minimum knowing about her? Did you think, you know, this was the kind of music that she listened to. I mean, I don't really truly know. I wouldn't know because let's also talk about the fact that I'm 53 and how old is she like 29 or 20 something? I want to say she's 31. 31.

Okay. So we're 22 years apart. And I don't, I mean, I know what my kids listen to because I'll hear. the music here, but I don't, I wouldn't have ever have guessed because I don't even know, I've never heard of Fade Into You. Obviously, I know who Fleetwood Mac and Bruce Springsteen are. You would know fade into you if I played it for you because it's a very 90s song like me. Oh, that's interesting. Oh, I love that she's got these like kind of like old school songs. Um, no, I, I feel like, you know, music is such a timely thing. Like there, I, there are, there are,

phases that I go through in life where I'm like, oh, I just want to listen to country music or Ryan will be playing music in the background when he's cooking, like, that's his, that's his thing. Yeah. And whatever will come on. And I'm like, oh my gosh, I haven't heard this song and whatever. Or it's like rap songs that, you know, like you know every single word to from the 80s or whatever. Like I feel like the, my phases, I go through phases. So I'm all for the fact that she's got these songs. It's not a surprise to me, I guess, is the answer, because I feel like I wouldn't have known even what to guess. I think it surprised me a little just because this last season of Secret Lives, we saw them all go to stagecoach. So I kind of pegged her as a country music fan.

But now I can't remember if she just went or if she actually liked country music. Like, I can't remember. But interesting, nonetheless, that that is, and it's a public playlist, if anybody wants to go look for it. Oh, really interesting. I love that. I mean, those are great songs. I love Fleetwood Mac. I mean, Lanside is an all-time favorite. So good. Okay, friends, real talk. You are worth the wait. We've all been there, giving our energy to connections that didn't honor ours, and watching friends do the same. And honestly, we all deserve better. That's why Bumble is built for intentional dating. Safety is such a big deal for us all, especially when meeting new people. And Bumble gives you the peace of mind with options like photo and

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Dad had the strong belief that the devil was attacking us. Two brothers, one devout household, two radically different paths. Gabe Ortiz became one of the highest ranking law enforcement. officers in Texas. 32 years, total law enforcement experience. But his brother Larry, he stayed behind and built an entirely different legacy. He was the head of this gang, and nobody was going to tell him what to do. He going to push that line for the cause.

Took us under his wing and showed us the game, as they call it. When Larry is murdered, Gabe is forced to confront the past he tried to leave behind, and uncover secrets he never saw coming. My dad had a whole other life that we never knew about. Like, my mom started screaming my dad's name, and I just heard one gunshot. The Brothers Ortiz is a gripping true story about faith, family, and how two lives can drift so far apart and collide in the most devastating way. Listen to the Brothers Ortiz on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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gentleman's cut bourbon.com. Please enjoy responsibly. Hey there, Dr. Jesse Mills here. I'm the director of the men's clinic at UCLA Health. And I want to tell you about my new podcast called The Mailroom. And I'm Jordan, the show's producer. And like a lot of guys, I haven't been to the doctor in many years. I'll be asking the questions we probably should be asking, but aren't.

Because guys usually don't go to the doctor unless a piece of their face is hanging off or they've broken a bone. Depends which bone. Well, that's true. Every week, we're breaking down the unique world of men's health, from testosterone and fitness to diets and fertility and things that happen in the bedroom. You mean sleep? Yeah, something like that, Jordan. We'll talk science without the jargon and get you real answers to the stuff you actually wonder about. It's going to be fun, whether you're 27, 97, or somewhere in between.

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It is a new show for Lisa Vanderpump, and it takes place at a villa with her staff. One of the key staff members on the show is named Marciano. Now, not to get too into the weeds, Secret Live Girls, they did a crossover, they went and filmed on that show. Marciano had some flirty interactions with two of the girls, and basically, I won't get too much into it, but that was the core drama of this season of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, Season 3. Oh, okay. Because they're all married. Because they're all married. So, big of you there.

So Marciano this last week. week went on Harry Jousey's podcast. Do you know who Harry Jousey is? Nope. He's from season one of Netflix's Too Hot to Handle, total like breakout star from that show. And so he has a podcast called Boyfriend Material. He's not boyfriend material. That's why it's called that. Understood. And so, you know, Marc Siano went on Harry's podcast and Harry said, you know, would you be going back on Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. And Marciano said, you know, if there was a good storyline for me, but there's no single women, so that would be tough. He then goes on to say, Taylor is Dakota's ex, and I like Dakota, and plus I'm pretty sure they are still hooking up. To which Harry said,

they were when I was there, which Marciano then asks, when was that? To which Harry says, before she went to go do the thing, which Marciona says, he basically heard the same thing, and it was very recent. And he goes, yo, that's wild. So they're inferring that Taylor and Dakota, her ex, were hooking up right before she went to go film The Bachelorette. Now, it's not far-fetched if you've watched the show, because even this last season, I said they went to stagecoach. They ended up hooking up at stagecoach. But we saw during the reason, union, that they were still on really bad terms. So, and we know she's filming The Bachelorette.

So as somebody who's been in Bachelor Nation since basically since the beginning, how frequent would you say it is that somebody is rekindling with an X or has somebody in their life right before they go to filming? I don't know that I can say like how frequent is it, but what I can say, say is, I don't know that it's a good idea. You know, if, if, if you are truly looking for your forever person and want to be serious about the bachelorette and the opportunity there to meet your forever person, then I don't know that hooking up with an ex who you have children with is a good idea.

idea because it just gets messy, you know? And even if you didn't have children with them or a child with them, I just feel like it's messy. You know, if I, we don't want to blur lines. You know, you want to say, okay, we're done with this relationship. I'm moving on. I want to be able to focus all of my energy on these guys who are, you know, leaving their lives for a time to come meet me and see if we can solidify a relationship and if we're compatible. And, you know, I feel like some would say that it's, like, disrespectful to the process if you're not fully invested and serious. Mind you, this is Taylor's life.

And it's what I encourage all women, my advice for anybody who goes on the show is be yourself. And if this is who she is, then this is who she is. and if she has like feelings for her ex and or if it's not just feelings and she just feels like she wants to have some intimate time with her ex, then that's as an adult, that is her right, right? Yeah. But I feel like for any guy

who is on the show, hopefully they know maybe about the fact that she does still have a physical connection to her ex. And that's like something that I hope is addressed during taping. Yeah. As a longtime viewer, as well as somebody who has cast multiple dating shows in their career, I can say that it's pretty common when it comes to the contestant side. It's less common when it comes to the lead.

I think like the lead has to go through a long process of talking with producers over and over again, and they really, producers and the networks really try to suss this out. Yeah. In a typical casting situation. We've already said Taylor is not a typical casting situation. But typically they do this because they don't want the integrity of the show to be compromised. Right. And they don't like the bad press that that could bring the show.

But when it comes to contestants, there's usually only so much that they can look into. But, I mean, anybody that's watched the show. knows that usually you get one per season where somebody comes out and says, I was DMing with that guy or I hooked up with him right before he packed his bags. Same thing with girls, girls that go on The Bachelor. This happens as well. So it is common, but more so I would say on the contestant side than the lead side. Yeah. And I just don't think it's a good idea. Like if you're the lead, then be the lead and be focused and really go, like, use your time wisely because these guys are giving up their lives to come and meet you and you need to be focused. But, you know, to each their own.

Okay, next headline. And I think this will be the one that we end on is so on Facebook, Taylor's, X is. sister-in-law was quoted, I believe, as posting something in reference to what production has really been like for Taylor as a single mom. She said that, oh, she called out a fake article, which I'm just going to take this beat to say, do not believe anything you read on Facebook. There's so many Bachelor Nation people who are being drug through the mud with lies, lies and more lies, including myself, who I found out that I was going to be a grandma on a Facebook page that is related to the Bachelor to Bachelor Nation. I feel like if you go on there, Jojo, they constantly are talking about Jojo. They'll get you with a clickbait and say, oh, they're dealing with this horrible situation or whatever.

or they'll just say, oh, Trista Sutter's going to be grandma or Trista Sutter has Alzheimer's. Oh my gosh. Anyway, so do not believe, especially on Facebook, be very careful with what you believe when you read, but when you read Facebook, but Dakota's sister-in-law did say she was talking about a fake article that was put out on Facebook. And she went on to say that Dakota has been watching ever the son they share, Taylor and Dakota while she's been filming. She said that Dakota and Ever have been staying in Idaho

and ever got to fly to see Taylor for one day before the holidays. She stated that Taylor is allowed to face-time her son when it allows. The post says they will be filming in Utah the last few weeks of the schedule, but until then, everything else is being filmed in other locations. So we got some more clarity in the comments of this video because Leanne, who is Taylor's mom, set the record straight. She said that Taylor has been able to see her three kids almost weekly. She, her mom, Taylor's mom, has flown out many times to locations for her to spend time

with them, plus she gets FaceTime calls. The kids had spent the other time mostly with their dads and sometimes her grandma or the grandma has ever. So I feel like it's really hard. Like I didn't have a child during filming. I know that like Emily Maynard could talk to this. But it's got to be so jason mezzanick had a child when he was the bachelor um and maybe we should have him on to talk about this but it it's it's got to be so hard because if you don't have a child then you can happily for me cut off work right you don't have to worry about work you can't watch your television shows you can't um be on email like you can basically just like fully become vested in the process because you can cut off all of your other worldly ties, right?

But you can't cut off your kids, you know, or you shouldn't cut off your kids if you're a mom. It's not fair to them. And I'm sure, as a mom, I wouldn't want to be cut off from my kids. I need them in my life every day. So that's got to be so difficult. And from what I understood from the woman who was talking about this on an Instagram post, was talking about the Dakota's sister-in-law's comments about the Facebook post. And she was saying, you know, that Taylor had gone into this thinking that she would get more

time, like production had told her that she would get certain things, like certain amounts of time that she could spend with the kids, but it just hasn't happened or it hasn't turned out that way. And knowing anything about television production, it's like, that phrase, hurry up and wait. Like, you just never know what's going to happen,

right? So you have to be on the fly. And even though I'm sure they had very good intentions of Taylor seeing her kids more than maybe

she's seen them, I feel like it is television and I guarantee you in her contract, there was something that was said, like, whatever you're in expecting,

expect the unexpected. essentially, you know, like because things change. And we cannot guarantee that you're going to be able to see your kids as much as you hope, probably. Yeah. And we had Leanne on, you know, a little bit after the announcement of Taylor. And what she was kind of saying is the older kids are obviously in school. So they're the ones that are probably seeing her the least because they have to stay on routine. Ever being a baby is probably the one that's getting the more one-on-one time with her. Now, I don't really think that there's necessarily truth to this.

He didn't see her for 20 days comment because it seems like her mom is, you know, clarifying that in the comments. So we don't really know, but it sounds like FaceTiming is definitely happening. Yeah, which is something that I feel like, thank goodness, they have that capability because it's the next best thing compared to. to, you know, being in person. So, and it's better than a phone call. So at least you get to see each other face to face. And she can show ever, like, what's going on around her so that he's not, um, you know, worried about where mom is and what she's doing. So I feel like that's a good

second option. Of course, I know that as a mom, I'm sure Taylor would much rather have her kids in her arms and be able to see them face to face. But at least they do have face time. Yeah. Well, Trista, thanks so much for joining me on this Frankie Friday. Thanks for having me. It was so fun. Do you feel like you know Taylor a little bit more after this? I do. I feel like this is a great option for people who don't watch Secret Lives

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