The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Frankie Friday with DeAnna Stagliano

Episode Date: November 28, 2025

We're looking forward to The Bachelorette season that could change everything, when Taylor Frankie Paul starts her search for love! But before the first limos arrive, Ben and Ashley are getting the inside scoop from DeAnna about why we recently saw a TON of former Bachelorette’s together on our social media!Is Taylor in the official Bachelorette group chat? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's the Almost Famous Podcast. Ashley and I are here on this Friday. And we're going to start to do something not. different, but exciting, this time of year. We're going to be your one-stop shop for all things Bachelor Nation, but as we prepare for one of the most anticipated seasons in recent memory, we're going to be your one-stop-shop for everything Taylor, Frankie, Paul, because she's got a season coming up as our next Bachelorette.

We're going to bring you around on all the latest news, and today we've got somebody very special. The star, famously available, also former bachelorette, and someone's celebrating something that all of us get to celebrate at least once a year. It's her birthday. Deanna, welcome back. I swear, I should just come on at least once a day, if not twice a day, because you guys just make me feel good. And there's no reason to make me feel this good or to make me feel. Well, that's not true.

That's not true. Don't ever say that about you always deserve to feel good. Thanks. That's always so complimentary. I'm like, you're making me feel awkward here. Are you just saying it to say it? No, he's not.

He means it. I know he does. He's a very sincere man. He's got a baby, so he has nothing. Yeah, I gave up all. Once you have a baby, you just become like a more like mushy,

like sentimental man. Man. and he said they're actually a man. He's talking to women with two children. All right. So Deanna, you are a fan of the Mormon wives. So were you excited about the announcement of Taylor Frankie Paul? Do you think this is a good decision?

It's how we'll open up this conversation since this entire podcast is going to be surrounded by Frankie. Why do I always want to call her Frankie though? But I think Frankie is okay. So when we got to meet Frankie, we all know that, right? I was like, what do we call her? Is she one of those all three names kind of people? Like how do I address the madam in the room?

I don't know. That it was totally okay to call her Frankie. So, yeah, I watched the Mormon wives. So I don't know. You guys have been on The Bachelor and The Bachelorette. I had two thoughts, right? I thought, okay, this is the last ditch effort to save the show. Which I'm down for. Save it. And I thought this is a good choice for saving it.

Okay. I thought an interesting choice. So I'm rooting for her because, listen, we've all got a rap sheet. Some of is a little thicker than others, but who's counting? And I also just like love, love. Like, why not give her a shot? So she's not everyone's cup of tea and she's had a very interesting go at reality television. And what I can respect about this woman is that she doesn't hide it, the good, the bad, the ugly. She is who she is through and through, and I can appreciate that. We're going to call this segment leading up to her season Frankie Fridays. We're really excited for it because there's a lot to break down during Frankie Fridays. And I think two things can be true. I mean, I would be shocked. I would put all my money on it that at some point in some

production room, they said, we got to save this franchise. Like, we got, we don't have a lot of like runway here. It's kind of make or break time. So I think it's a hundred percent true that this was a last ditch effort. I also, and I'm curious to hear you, like the two of you kind of, because it hasn't been discussed yet, if it is a last ditch effort, if this is their home run to try to bring an audience back in, I understand the success of the Mormon Wives show. I understand that it's a part of the family. But why Taylor, Frankie Paul? I'm not saying it's a bad choice.

I'm just saying with all the people that are available in the ABC family, in the Disney family, why was she the one that they said, this is our home run hit? Well, she's like the lead of the show, I would say. If it weren't for her and her ex-pose on these Mormon wives swinging in Utah, then they would have never even had a show. show. And then she's one of the only single girls on the show. Is there only like one other single girl on the show? Yeah. And she really is not. I mean this in the kindest way possible. She's not

it. Out of the two, it would be Taylor Frankie Paul. Like she is obviously the most entertaining. So why would they choose someone who is not as entertaining? Or if you're looking at it from an, from an EP perspective, you have to pick someone who can carry a show who is nice enough, who's attractive enough who has enough of a personality to carry a show. Definitely. She was the obvious choice from that show. Now, is there any other in the Hulu ABC family? Can't think of anyone that's on a Kardashian right now.

I think they had a list of people. I heard some rumors about who they were looking at to make the next bachelorette. Brooks Nader? Yeah, Brooks Nader was on the list. I remember Taylor Frankie Paul. There was another one. I can't remember, you know what, and I bet, like, what it came down to at the end of the day when ABC was looking at it or Warner Brothers, whoever makes the decision, it probably came down to numbers, how much money they were going to come out of pocket, who they were going to pay, and then it just came down to a popularity contest, who they thought was going to be the best of the show. And just from knowing, you know, talking to a few producers on set, I believe the show will go on. I don't think it's like a matter of it getting candid. right? Because I love it too, Ashley. I want it to keep going. But I think it is a matter of

a last ditch effort and figuring out what works. So they've done several bouts of cleaning house over there. And I think they're just trying to figure out what works this day and age. You know what I mean? They've seen a real decline in ratings over the last couple of years. And I don't know if it was just people aren't watching the show anymore. I don't know if it's because with social media and the way the show has changed, no one really believes it anymore. Or are they just not picking the right leads? Probably a combination of it all. Yeah, well, and I think the leads have definitely been in question, right?

I mean, I think we've talked about it here, Ashley and myself, have really discussed. Well, if this is such a tipping point for the show, the leads that they're choosing have been confusing. And I think Taylor Frankie Paul makes more sense than most of the leads they've chosen recently. However, I do wonder how will she relate with that 40 to 60 demo in the Midwest? And I think you would be one to bring a great perspective to us. I haven't met her. I don't know her. I haven't seen the secret lives of Mormon wives.

Does she have that ability to relate to them to where they're like, I want to watch her find love every week? Here's the thing. I believe that there are people who have watched the show. from season one, they don't care what happens. They can't stop watching it. It's their thing. They watch it with a group of people

or they watch it with their daughters or for whatever reason. They're watching the show and they're never going to stop. So it doesn't matter how much people have complained about her becoming the next bachelorette. They're going to watch. I haven't watched in years.

I'm absolutely going to watch. This is either going to be really amazing or it's going to be a train wreck that none of us can look away. You know what I mean? And I think the really cool piece is that even when we see Mormon wives, Taylor Frankie Paul shows up as herself every single time.

I don't know her personally. Is that who she really is when she's off in Utah drinking flavored Coca-Cola and with her kids? I don't know. But either way it works, she's entertaining and makes the show entertaining. When I met her, she was the nicest person. You know what I mean?

I don't imagine she's going to come on to set and show the worst version of herself by any means. But she walked into a room of a bunch of leads from the television show and like side note they had this part you guys and ashley i know you've been on several seasons and ben i know you've been a lead but there was this moment we're all kind of standing there a it was a little handmaid's tail but you know standing there and they've got us all lined up you know what i mean and we're waiting to welcome taylor into the room and i just had this moment where i kind of looked around and i thought how freaking cool is this only there's

less than 30 of us. What is there? 27 bachelorets, something like that. Almost everyone was there. And I had this moment where I looked around the room and I thought we're all different in our own individual way, but how freaking awesome that we're all standing in the same room. For the most part, I think everybody really likes each other. I don't do a whole lot of drama, so I don't know. But I just saw how freaking beautiful. Like we all show up. We show up for each other. We're all there. We're happy, you know, to celebrate her and film again and be in the same room. But it's a very small percentage of people that can say that they do that, that they know what we've all been through, and that we can share this experience while also each of having our own different individual experience. I don't know.

Maybe I'm just old and sappy, but I was like, we're so blessed. I was just mind boggled at the amount of people that showed up and how they convinced everybody to show up because there are some people on this list. I guess I should go through the list and tell me if we missed. out on anyone. On the date that you guys are part of, I'm assuming it's a date. Let's ask some preliminary questions. Was it a date or was it a guidance thing? You had a scene on the upcoming season. We had a scene. I'm going to be careful because I don't know exactly how much I can share. At first they were

keeping us really mum and then all the sudden next thing I know everything was on social media. It's on the information website so I know it's out there. So we We filmed a scene that is going to air. It's a special. I'm assuming you also won't be able to say like where in this season it'll fall. So I'll skip that. These are who, this is the list of who is there.

Trista, Allie, Caitlin, Hannah, Katie Thurston, Desiree, Charity, you. Rachel Lindsay, get back to that. Rachel Rechia, Bacca Cufferin, Tasia, Joan, Andy Dorfman, Jojo, Emily Maynard and Ashley Ubert. Now hold on a second. And the only I just want to mention, the people were missing is Meredith Phillips from season two. Oh, Meredith was there. Gabby Wynley.

No, I have, Jen Sheffed from season three. Was she there? Jen did not make it. Jillian Harris from season five. No, unfortunately, her husband just had surgery. She had FOMO and was texting all of us all day long. I'm sure. I can't imagine her wanting to miss that.

Claire Crawley from season 16. Claire didn't make it. Michelle Young from season 18. Gabby Wendy from season 19 and Jen Tran from season 21. Those are the ones who were not able to come, right? You're exactly right, Ben. Okay. Okay, friends, real talk.

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You know what? I don't know. I was super happy that everybody came. I know that certain women have drama with one another, but I will say that there was no drama that day. Everyone did a really great job of

just being together and enjoying what it was, and it was all of us coming together to film a special. Becca comes to things. I know she has distanced herself from the show, but she still comes to things, and she actually brought her husband and her baby, and they

hung out with us all day. And Becca's delightful, so I know she's distanced herself, but she still comes to things. Rachel, I was really thrown off by because we have a group chat that we're all on and we just check in periodically or if somebody's got something or going through something or it's a birthday or whatever. We all kind of chime in periodically. And Rachel pretty much silences that and then pops in, you know, whatever she wants, right? And so when she showed up, I just like wrapped her in my arms and just like whispered in her ear. I was like, I'm so glad that you came because I know it's not her thing anymore. I know she's worked really hard to distance herself. from the show for a number of reasons. But I just was really glad she came

because, again, it's about a scenario. And listen, we all laughed all day. I'm joking about the Handmaid's Tale, but the girls, when they listen to this, they're going to die because all day we were like under his eye. That's what it felt like. All of us in red out, standing around, lining up, smile, ladies, look pretty, do this.

And we're all like, there's so much more to us than this. You know what I mean? But we get it. Like, they know what they're doing. It works. And here we all are lined up. in our red and, you know, but I'm just... You're lined up in red? You're all wearing red?

You're all wearing red. Oh, so that really makes it handmade staley. Yes. Literally, they're trying to get us to hold straight faces and smile, and I look at Katie and I'm like, under his eye. And she's like, we're just like died laughing because that's what it looked like. And it also was that kind of scenario where they've got all of us, you know, lined up and we're all just smiling and looking pretty, you know what I mean? And we're there to play a role and fill a part. And, you know, for the most part, we all know that, but it, you know, and then it's this twisted part where you're like,

well, you know, the show couldn't have gone on without you. So we are a key part of the show, but also we play a part too. Like, that's just how it is. So anyway, Rachel came. I gave her a big hug and I told her I was so glad that she came, that she came and that she was really a part of the show all day long. She didn't just sit behind the scenes and not interact with anybody and not be a part of the show. Like, she really showed up and she was herself and she was a part of the.

the episode. So I was thrilled that she came. We've been trying to get Emily Maynard on our podcast for years. She was one of my favorite leads. She apparently also doesn't respond in the group chat, but she was there. Emily, God bless her. She will look you dead in the face, Ashley, and be like, I don't even know where my phone is half the time. She's got so many children. She's got so much going on. She still has like a Yahoo, an AOL email address. Like we all laugh at Emily because she is so removed. but when she is there, she shows up and she actually brought her daughter, Ricky. And she's so funny.

But you know what, you're right. She has no time for any of this stuff. You know, she talks about her experience about being the Bachelorette and her time on the show and all of that stuff. But she's just in a different place in her life. She has so many kids. Like she's busy at all times.

Like she never responds to messages, hardly ever, hardly ever. Am I crazy to think that she's about to become a grandmother as well? She is. She's about to become a grandmother. A 39-year-old grandmother. How was Ricky? I heard that she is not enjoying pregnancy, so relate. Yeah, she is a beautiful, beautiful grandmother.

Yes, and Ricky looks stunning. She was cute. She came and joined us for dinner. I mean, I'm with you, though. And, Ash, I mean, goodness, I forget Ashley was not elite. She, like, has that, like, you know, it's hard to even process that she wasn't the lead of the show. and so, actually, I'm not meaning to leave you out of this. It's confusing to me that you...

No, no, no, leave me out. That's a very sweet compliment. It's not a secret if you listen to the show. It's been years since I've had any touch with this franchise. And there's reasons for that, you know, change of staff, but also the fact that I've started a family and, you know, my life does not revolve around this show, but I've never once asked or tried to distance myself from the franchise

because I'm very thankful for it in every way. And I would do anything I could that might. help them or fill a five-minute time block on a show that they need. But I get what you're saying. There's been moments like that for me. Weddings really have been, I guess, the only time I've met other bachelors or maybe on a golf trip that I plan. But there's moments where you look around the room and you say, this is, like, how incredible that this is where my life went. Not only because of the fact that there's cameras there and that they've like, pampered us or whatever made us feel like stars when I you know I come home and I wear

sweats all day and sit at a computer for that I think is like mostly 95% of what leads now do with their lives when they're off the show but I think it's incredible when they get back together again because there is something special about each and every person they've chosen as a lead that makes them different that makes them fill the the season that they needed to fill and so what I'm really interested in because I believe you could talk about this. And I know there's a lot of things you can't talk about, but you got a room full of these people again for X amount of hours. One, I think I would have the, like, I would be too excited. And I'd probably like word vomit for an hour of my life just to get everything out or ask every question I wanted to ask. But if there's

like a few moments that stand out to you from this experience, maybe that aren't on camera that are just in the corners and the silence. What moments stand out to you with this group being together again? I'm with you, Ben. It's not like I've purposely distanced myself from the show. It's just like, I know my role. I know my face. It's not the center of my life. It has changed the trajectory of my life and where I have gone since. And I'm really, really grateful for it. But I don't live and die on The Bachelor in The Bachelorette. I don't need that like connection to like keep up with the show or to say I'm attached to the show for any reason. I genuinely go to these things. I like genuinely love most of the women. I love all of the women, but I would just naturally

gravitate towards certain ones who I would say outside of this show, outside of social media are actually my friends, right, that I keep in touch with, that I speak to that know who my children are, you know what I mean, that are a part of my life. And so for me, any excuse to visit these people and spend time with them, I'll do it. So if ABC is going to buy a special and bring us all in and film, you don't have to pay me, I'll be there. I love these women. I just want to hang out with them for the day. Totally. You know what I mean? Like that's it. Yeah. So I would say filming is just how you normally know it is. They bring us all in. And I think looking across the room, I get the feeling that none of us view each other differently. You put us all in a room. No one sits

around was like, oh, I got more ratings than your season did. Or, oh, I've had this lucrative TV career since. That's not the way, at least me anyway, I'm only speaking for myself. Like, when we're all sitting in the room and the cameras aren't rolling and we're all hanging out and talking about our kids and showing pictures and talking about our experience of what life is like and, you know, several of the girls are pregnant. It's just a bunch of girls being friends in the room. And we're seriously just like pumping each other up. We're laughing that we're all in red sweatsuits and look like the handmaids. but we're also like, fuck, you look so beautiful today.

Your makeup looks great. Your hair looks great. Like, we just genuinely love each other. So for me, that's really the best part of having an experience like that. And I think because, you know, if you're looking at a production standpoint, because production has changed, they're also really driving that. You know, I realize producers have a job to do. And I'm sure if they needed to get somebody to cry, they would go to great lengths to do it.

But I would say for the most part, in the last several years that I have gone on to set and have I had to film anything. The vibe on set is just different. The production is different. The producers are different. It doesn't feel like, and again, I was on the show so long ago, when I walked on set, they were willing to, like, cut throat to do whatever it took. And it just doesn't feel like that anymore. So I'm really thankful for that. They did a really good job of kind of breaking us up into smaller groups to film with Taylor. So for the most part, You know, they take some of the newer girls and put them with Taylor. Then they take some of the other girls who have had a lucrative career afterwards.

They put them with Taylor. And then there's kind of the rest of us who are just like, I don't know, you know, talking about random things. But the most fun to me was like after filming was done, they arranged for us to have this really awesome dinner. And it was just us. They put us in a private room where we were all just free ourselves. And it was just a whole night of like just. like girls hanging out and laughing and being together. Oh, the TikTok frenzy. I, listen. I had FOMO. Actually, you would have fit in so well. I'm glad I, but like, no, I'm not asking

to have been there. It was for you guys only. I'm just saying that like, it was like, oh, my friends making funny things. Yeah. Up your alley. This would have been right up your alley. So we were like, every five minutes, if there was a break in, in any kind of filming, we were filming TikTok. and everybody, our group text was like throwing ideas, fun things that we should do. So I don't know how many we filmed just an exhausting amount of TikToks. And poor Meredith, like, she doesn't do any social media. She was like, I don't know, just put me wherever you need me and tell me what to do.

I'm ready to be done with this, you know? But it was a lot of fun. And I would say that given the filming, we were able to each go into a room and like turn it on and put on her game faces and be like, just tell us what you need. We would rather just be hanging out with each other. And then when the cameras were done, we were able to just laugh. and film a bunch of TikToks and have a great time

and then by the end of the night most of the girls went to bed and it was me and Trista and Caitlin Bristow and one of the producers at a bar until midnight and just laughing our faces. I'm shocked that Caitlin

closed down a bar. Shocked. We got to laughing because people were like, it just became this ongoing thing. People were asking us why we were dressed like that because we didn't change.

We just kept our red and so we just look like a cult really moving around the bar in Woodland Hills, you know what I mean? And so finally it just became, every time somebody came up, they're like, what are you guys doing? And it just became this ongoing. I was like, we play dodgeball. And they were like, really? And I was like, absolutely. There's nobody that recognized. Like, this isn't popper. The paparazzi never showed up. I have, I mean, I would shock that the paparazzi didn't show up. Not a single person was like, oh, you're Trista. You're Caitlin Bristow. No one recognized us. We had these people believing that we were on a

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I want to tell you about my new podcast called Not My Best Moment, where I talk to artists, athletes, entertainers, creators, friends, people I admire who had massive success about their massive failures. What did they mess up on? What is their heartbreak? And what did they learn from it? I got judged horribly. The judges were like, you're trash.

I don't know how you got on the show. Boo, somebody had tomatoes. No, I'm kidding. But if they had tomatoes, they would have thrown the tomatoes. Let's be honest. We've all had those moments we'd rather. forget. We bumped our head. We made a mistake. The deal fell through. We're embarrassed. We failed. But this podcast is about that and how we made it through. So when they sat me down,

they were kind of like, we got into the small talk and they were just like, so what do you got? What? What ideas? And I was like, oh, no. What? Check out not my best moment with me, Kevin on stage on the Iheart radio app, Apple podcast, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Kristen Davis, host of the podcast. Are you a sure? The most anticipated guest from season three is here. The Trey to My Charlotte. Kyle McLaughlin joins me to relive all of the magical Trey and Charlotte moments. He reveals what he thinks of Trey giving Charlotte a cardboard baby.

Why would I bring her a cardboard baby? I was literally I was like, this doesn't track for me at all. When he found out Trey's shortcomings. I'm kind of excited at talking about, you know, I think he's a guy spends time in Central Park. you know, he's probably, you know, he'll be some surgery stuff, you know. And I was like, all this kind of stuff going on. And they were like, yeah, yeah, yeah, fine. And they said, but he's impotent.

And I was like, he's impotent. And why he chose not to return to it just like that. They came and presented an idea. And I was like, I get, I see it. It's so kind of a one joke idea. You don't want to miss this. Listen to Are You a Charlotte on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. all right well it must be asked is taylor now part of the group chat and will she be able to hang

with this group down the road i'm a little worried for her she walked into the room of all of us and i tend to think that we are the most friendly most welcoming group of women i don't know maybe i'm biased but she almost looked like a deer in headlights, like, holy smokes. Like, you could just tell that she was really overwhelmed, really overwhelmed. I believe that production on The Bachelorette is really different from production on the Mormon wives.

From what I gather is like on Mormon wives, there's a lot more producing around drama because it feeds viewers. And it's, so I, I, what I guess, gather is that she came on to set, like, already with six walls built because she was like, okay, how bad is this going to be? How bad is it going to be? And I don't think it's been that way for her. But I think she also, she goes from one reality show to this. And I don't, I don't know that she's found her path quite yet. You know what I mean? Like, this is a dating show.

You are meant to find love. And there's probably, you know, also the other piece of look at the toxic relationships that she has had on television that have aired for everyone to see. And now she gets to walk into the situation where hopefully she finds love, if nothing else, hopefully she just realized that there's normal nice guys out there, you know, I hope, but she, she genuinely looked terrified. I also hope, and I think this is something that I bring up that was life-changing for me, really, in that season. I hope she also realizes there's really great, like, normal women that are part of this as well, like that, hey, this is weird. This is crazy. this is a new show

and all these women have done it also and I like them like they're fun they want to have a good time they're laughing with each other when I when I was filming the Bachelor and a couple of the older bachelors showed up that was huge for me to be like wait I would kick it with these dudes

like I'd kick it with Souls and Mesnick and you know Sean Lowe like they're nice guys and so that's big I hope she felt like that been like when she walked in and even when the cameras were rolling She was like, thank you all for being here. Like, thanks for coming in. You know what I mean?

It wasn't like she walked into the room and then ran out. When the cameras weren't rolling, she stood in the room with us and introduced herself to each of us. You know what I mean? And said hello and thanked us for coming and asked for advice. She shared a little bit, you know, of what's going on in filming for her and where she's at. So my hope is that she'll join the group chain, Ashley, when it's all said and done. And then we just let her know she can also silence it. Yeah. Who is the biggest texture in it?

Trista. For sure. She's like, but she needs to. She's the cultivator of the world. Yeah. She does always respond. She's very good at responding. Yeah. Yeah. I'm setting up a dinner date with Trista right now, actually, as we talk on my phone. Because she's, we need to get together again. This sounds so special, leaving, did you feel, like, fulfilled? Or did you feel like there was something missing? No, I, my heart was like, my love of, like, joy and fulfillment was, like, pouring out of me. I, you know, we filmed the day before my birthday. So it was also like, the girls were all, happy birthday, you know what I mean?

Everybody likes to get birthday wishes, you know what I mean? And everybody made a point to say happy birthday. Also just like my meter for just like being full, like my heart was overflowing. I really love seeing all of the women and I genuinely love everyone and it was great to catch up. I really spent my day talking to a bunch of different people and hearing about their lives and how they're doing and what's new in their life. And then, you know, I just have the ones that just like sit close to my heart. Like Desiree, I mean, she's just like, I'm just like, I just love her. She is very underrated as a bachelorette.

she's just a of a human being and she is kind and we've always had a really special friendship. So I spent the entire day with her, to be honest, like just hearing about her children in her life and how she's doing. And Trista, of course. So I really woke up the next morning. And, you know, I had the girls all texting me happy birthday and I was in my car right on my way home. And I just was like, I'm just like overflowing. This is the best birthday ever. I feel so much gratitude and joy that I got to spend the day with all of those women. And to be honest, I don't care how the filming went. I had a great time.

I'm so happy for you and everyone. This is awesome. Let's do this more often bachelor producers. We could also just do it on our own down. Yeah, I know. Well, I did it. We did it on our own in October and it was so wonderful. So we all have to do it on our own more.

We need to do that. I also was like, hey, man, when you're done with Taylor, Frankie Paul, if you're looking for a middle-aged divorcee. See, the silver, the silver bachelorette. I already have you locked down. Then put me on a date, man. Yeah, we should do that. Take it into your own hands.

Set her up with your friends. Yeah, we should do that. I'd be excited too. Final question. I know our audience is going, we have so many notes here about Taylor Frankie Paul right now. And we're going to save that to the next Frankie Friday because I believe this content can wait

and I really want to just like sit on this being our launch of Frankie Friday of you meeting Taylor Frankie Paul and getting to be a part of her season and then next week we'll talk about some of the stuff that we've heard about her season and some of the... The leaked dates.

Yeah, some of the leaked dates. Yeah, she's all over social media. So let's save that. I think this was a great episode and just a really fun conversation with you. I'm going to tell you about something because I know you know Carrie Fetman. And for those listening, I love that man. Wardrobe from day one on the set. And Carrie loves nothing more than to treat us all like little dolls and dress us up the thinnest, most sparkly gowns and

dresses with the highest heels that he possibly can. When I was filming, I wanted to strangle him because he put me in no less than seven inch heels because I'm short. Harry was on set and I gave him the biggest hug and he always kisses me right on the mouth. And I was like, you must be dying. And he was like, what do you mean? And I was like, because you can't put her in high heels. Y'all, she came on to set and her socks and her ugs. Because she's not, she's like, won't dress uncomfortably. And I've never been so jealous in my entire life that she gets to film in her crocs and in her ugs and not. I love that about her. I love it. I do too. She filmed a little day in her hugs and her socks and did not give a

you know what. Carrie's freaking out. Carrie wanted to put me in heels. Are you just? And he said, I've had to let so much go this season that I can't even sleep at night. Yeah, he's,

he's doing okay. He's had 20 plus years of his, and he does an incredible job. He's the best out there. Two final questions for you. How much wine was consumed? And then did they have enough? You know what is so funny.

A, I don't drink anymore. So it was the last thing on my mind. But B, even though there was no men on set, they still counted the girls' drinks. And several of the girls were completely. Really? Yes. They still only let the girls have two drinks per hour.

So a couple of the girls are pregnant. Becca, Jojo are pregnant. And so people were going up to the bar and giving Becca and Jojo's name because they couldn't get drinks anyway. And so they were trying to get more drinks. But isn't that so funny? There was not a single man on set.

No one was sexually involved with anyone, except they were still counting the girls' drinks and only letting them have two drinks per hour. That's a good note if they ever invite me back Because their flask was getting shoved up somewhere and snuck in But I also will say I don't know if we really need more than two drinks an hour Well listen Andy Dwarfman was really really

All day she was like this has got to be a joke You bring us all the way out here and you only give us two little tiny glasses of wine This is a joke Per hour You get away from the kids You get away from the husband you have one girl's day And you're like no no no load me up to close here you are the star of famously available but rumor has it that you might

not be famously available is that true or not the famous part is like no but I am available I am I have started to see someone oh what does that mean for my role in your life past a month and a half. It means that I can still date, Ben. Okay. It means that I'm just getting to know someone. I'm trying to decide if I would like to date this person exclusively or I'm really struggling with because we were friends beforehand if I'm able to move from a

friendship to a romantic relationship. Of course. Of course you can't. I don't know if I want to see him naked. Well, see. Why not? I don't know. it depends on how many weeks and how many dates you've been seeing him.

But I feel like you should know if you are curious about seeing him naked pretty quickly. That's the thing. We got to stop here because here's what we're going to do. We're going to jump on an episode of famously available next week. And we're going to talk about you and your curiosities or lack of curiosity and what has kind of happened with you and this new mystery friend that maybe or maybe not you're romantically interested in. So make sure you tune in to famously available.

We'll be back next week talking all about her love life. And if she's going to see him naked. Until then. I want to be on this one. Yeah, you can come on, Ashley. You can be our guest, Ashley. It's a very safe space. Oh, I love it.

Thanks for breaking it down. This sounds so special and so fun. And I'm with you. I was not sold on the Taylor, Frankie Paul. choice. I don't know her. I've never seen the show. So that was like the most judgmental without any education. It's like it's like judging us on a podcast that nobody's listened to. They just seen like a little clip and they're like, yeah, I don't like it. It's like listening to the whole thing. And now I'm getting more and more excited about it because I want her to find a good

person. I want her to be a part of this family. And I think there's good things to come from this show no matter what and when you're on it. So thank you for giving us to perspective of all these incredible people showing back up to support her. It's a big deal. It's a big deal. I put my introduction too, though, you guys. I said, if you bring back her two exes, the one that is a fame hungry, call it what it is, if they bring him back, like, I quit.

I quit. Like, don't do this to this poor girl. Don't do this. Oh, they're going to do it. They're going to do it. And Ben, I think you should watch The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives for, um, just like in the background. No, I think we should for Frankie Fridays, too.

I think you and I need to prep and watch the show for Frankie Fridays. We need to, I guess I need to get educated on who this person is and what she's about. And so as a result, I need to watch the show and we will. I'll start as soon as Thanksgiving is over, like when I'm bloated and laying on a couch, we're going to start the show and we're going to get through it along with all of our audience because goodness gracious we have a long time till The Bachelorette and we got to talk about something got to talk about something and we want to talk about something uh anyways we'll be back with the almost famous podcast this has been your first frankie friday uh it won't go down as the best because i bet

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