The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - From Here to Paternity

Episode Date: October 13, 2023

The results for Clayton’s paternity test are in… and his reaction was odd! Ben and Ashley break down everything we know about this bizarre update. We have the latest on a new Bachelor Nation baby! And… another split! Find out who it is and what it means for the success rate of Bachelor couples.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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There is so many amazing things happening in Bachelor Nation, as we've been talking about for the last few weeks. And, well, the headlines still haven't stopped. So we got great TV. We got great headlines. And we got the great co-host, Ashley, here with me today. Thank you. I have the great co-host, Ben Higgins, here with me. Well, I guess we're just great together.

Is that what we'd say? Yeah, we're just great together. Yeah, we're self-describing, Ben. Well, you know, no, we're not. Because I'm describing you and you're describing me, so that's fine. You said we're great together. Are you allowed to say that? Yeah, I guess you are.

You know, I... According to your rules. I think we're good together, Ashley. I don't know if I could do this show with anybody else. I don't think I could do anything. I couldn't possibly feel like we could have a healthier communication. I agree. And then, do you know, go workers?

It's weird, Ashley. I always know, like, I enjoy working with you. Like, that's never a secret to me. It's never something that, like, I forget. I feel very fortunate to have you as a friend and to have you as a, as a partner in this and as my work wife and somebody sometimes some weeks i talk to more than my wife because i'm traveling um which isn't healthy for anybody but the the thing that uh that that that really kind of fired me up this week and i i want to mention this to the listeners

because i think it's worth it is when katy thurston without us asking without us pushing her she she posted right after we did an interview with her and she was one of her favorite interviews ever, if it might not be her favorite. It was the kindest thing. I was so surprised. It was just surprising because, you know, there wasn't that pushup. Can you post about this? Can you share about it? She just did it. And you know what I thought at that moment, actually, I thought, you know what? Typically when you go on podcast, especially around this show, I think people have the concern that the hosts are just going to try to pull out the headline or just going to try to dig into the juice. And, and, and,

almost you leave this podcast when you do these interviews feeling worse about yourself and worse about the situation than when you hit your damn. And I think with Katie, it just reminded me that, hey, this can be done well. It can be done respectfully. And you can still get great juice. Like you can still get the, because the juice is the truth. And if you can just get the truth out, like huge win. And I want to say thanks to Katie for posting that. And then also if you haven't listened to that episode about all the crazy stuff she's up to in life. I mean, you got to go back and listen to it because it is a good interview with Katie. She does share in a very vulnerable way how she's walking through this process of being,

you know, in paradise and then also on F Boy Island. Yeah. She also gave just the best teasers that leave you wanting to know more. And I think next week we'll get to know more, even though this Paradise episode doesn't really tease her appearance next week. We'll see, but it has to be. Yeah, I mean, I can't wait much

longer. Like, if she is actually on the beach as a cast member, yeah. Then I want multiple weeks of Katie. I don't want just like one little week of Katie. I know. That's maybe part of her contract.

Who knows? Oh, it could be because she said that she was a good business woman and she knows how to create a contract that'll work for her. We're good for her. We do have headlines today, so we're going to dive into them. The first headline I want to talk to you about is congratulations to Astrid and Kevin. You know, obviously this is a couple that met in Paradise. And Ashton and Kevin have, well, Astrid gave birth.

Yes, she did. They did not have a baby. They did not have a baby. She had the baby. And now they have a baby together. Number two. This is baby number two. too for them. Yeah. So they actually announced the pregnancy within four weeks of her being

pregnant because it was another IVF experience for them. And they just wanted to be open. They've been open about their IVF journey with their other son, Augie. And now they wanted to be transparent the entire time. With this pregnancy, it ended up going very wonderfully successfully. And the baby was born on October 7th. Everyone's doing well. The baby's name is Nash-Lockland went. And I like the name, Nash-Lockland. Yeah, it's very nice. And it was born just before Canadian Thanksgiving. So it was a great cozy time and a time to be grateful, which they are very. They are very grateful and we're grateful. Celebrate that. Well, also things to celebrate. Tia Booth

Teabuth celebrates her bachelorette party in Cabo and the headline says this she was wearing a cheeky black swimsuit so Ashley there was some Bachelor Nation alums there tell us about it Okay so when they say cheeky I was like Oh so like kind of like a thong One of those black box bottoms

Like we saw cat wearing in this episode Of The Bachelor this week Oh I don't know am I allowed to say that not yet it's one of those black box bikinis but that's actually not what they're referring to on the bathing suit it had the phrase same dick forever is that what it said yes so funny like so classic raunchy bachelorette and she was joined with her bestie who got her on the show raven gates and caroline lunley lunny how do you say caroline's last name i've always said Lundy. Caroline Lundy. And they just had a great time. They poked fun on one of their

Instagram reels about how like how your fiancee is imagining your bachelorette party going on while he's at home. And like it's all raunchy and sexy. And then like what reality is. And like they're basically in the hot tub together making like founding fathers hairstyles on each other. It's, uh, I mean, that's what you want. Right. This you, I think, my bachelor party, Ashley, was it time for me to feel like I was, if anything, maybe back in high school again. So I saw high school friends and college friends

and then, you know, friends from new seasons of life as adults. But when you get to that, it's like, it's kind of like a golf trip for me, but golf trips are a little more formal because you usually have a nice place. It's like one of the only times where you just feel like you can go back to those days

and just be ridiculous. It doesn't have to be raunchy. It doesn't have to be wild. It can just be fun to be around your buddies again, doing stupid stuff. It's so rare in life that we can get friends together from so many different chapters of your life together in one room. And it's amazing. It's the best. My bachelor's party was something that I didn't necessarily want. I wasn't like, I was not a bachelor's party person in my head. But then my friends organized it in the most Ashley fashion. And it was one of

the best most memorable days. That's awesome. Well, this is an interesting headline to me. Because there's a season of life that Jessica and I were considering this. And it didn't happen for us. But it is intriguing. This is the headline. Why Jojo Fletcher and Jordan Rogers are happier after moving to Puerto Rico. So do you want to talk about you and Jess first, or do you want me to read the headline? Well, I think with Jess and I, it was just an interesting idea, right?

It's a beautiful place. they're you know it's very accessible to the u.s uh it's warm um no but they were the really one of the first people in bachelor nation maybe the only at this point now to make that big jump to go to Puerto Rico to live in Puerto Rico and they do seem to be loving it it feels like they've made a great life for themselves down there so in this article the the crux of it is that they just love that they're able to be outside all the time round the round the round the year their dogs are able to be outside being active and they just finished like there was just an idea to like maybe spend some time in Puerto Rico but they decided to remodel and finally after

two years the renovation has finally come to a close and everything's feeling very set steady and stable um like that is their home they said they also keep a little home in Dallas so that whenever they go to Dallas to like want to feel different temperatures you know just like like have a little fall week feel a little cold um they have that to go to but yeah they're like it's really their main residence now my my thing is just with the amount that jordan travels for football i can't imagine the flights because it's not in the continental u.s you're still to take having at least in like an hour in the air just to get to you know america yeah i don't know how that looks for him but i'm sure it had added some complexity but also with the house and

then maybe he can just go back there. You know, it's a little easier to kind of call that home during the football season. I don't know that. You know what I like about this is they mentioned living in Colorado. They mentioned when they want to feel a little cold air. They go to Dallas, which, yes, Dallas can get cold. I was a little perplexed. A little perplexed by that.

If you want to cold, I can show you cold. Are you like telling us that you just when you want to feel 60 degrees in November that maybe you go to Texas? That's ridiculous. I just would love that. If I was like, hey, let's feel some cold weather. It's going to 60 degrees out here. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam.

Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate.

Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeartRadio app, podcast or wherever you get your podcast.

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and say that you would support that because it is a very dangerous sport. Well, I guess it would be kind of, I don't know, as a hypocritical is the word, but Ari's dad, he was like the big race car driver in the family. He won the Indianapolis 500 in both 1990 and 1997. Ari's saying it's just like in the blood, in the roots. They're also from the Netherlands and it's a big deal there. And he says, quote,

I've always had a love-hate relationship with my career. career lots of pressure and expectations but at the same time the most incredible experiences came from racing it's an amazing adventure if you have the passion to see it through if they the kids um want to drive then i will back them a thousand percent here's a weird thing about ari um his dad was an incredible driver and ari had a good career you know he didn't have his dad's career and that's why he says he has a love-hate relationship with it it. Ari, here's the weird thing I was getting to, is Ari is not a short man.

And typically race car drivers are very short because they're sitting in these cars. Like, he's a good six two. He's got to be over six. Yeah, he's over six. He doesn't have the body for Indy car, you know? He couldn't crunch up into that thing for hours at a time like the others could. Like that, he just wasn't built for it. And so, you know, I get it.

I also want to say this, Ashley, how cool would it be to grow up as a kid and know that your grandfather and your father raced cars for a living, like, think about just like how infatuated you would be with them. And then also the fact that that both of them have the access to get you on the track also when you like are old enough to go really fast and to drive. Like, you would think they're the coolest people ever. For sure. But now I'm also thinking about how dangerous it is. Like how would, I want to know Lauren's take on this. Next time when they're on the podcast, I'm going to be like, so is Lauren backing them a thousand percent on getting in the driver's seat because just the thought of like a kid driving in general

on the regular roads freaks me out yeah yeah this that's a good question we'll save that for the next thing they come on which usually we have them on once a year so uh two uh headlines here before we get to our big finale and we have a big finale headline today one that has captured bachelor nation captured really the general public people have been intrigued and interested in this headline following it and now we kind of have a conclusion or at least what we know of as a conclusion to this story and so maybe it won't pop up again or hopefully it doesn't pop up again but before we get to that headline we do have kind of two solemn headlines to break down when we've talked for last few weeks kind of followed this Michael A and Daniel

Malby story originally we kind of talked about hey it seems like they've broken up and And then a week later, Michael Ake came out and said, hey, they officially had broken up. Daniel, obviously, her follow-up to that was, I didn't know he was going to see this. Like, I was thrown off by this. And then she came on her podcast and talked about it in a little more detail. Well, here's the headline. Bachelor Nations, Daniel Mulby, says, it's okay to cry on your birthday. And this is following to Michael A-split.

this headline just feels like a, you know, a stab to the heart. It's my birthday, and I can cry if I want to. You can cry if you want to. Ashley, you know, a lot of the breakdown of this headline

is what I just kind of talked about. I don't know if you feel this way. But at this point, I feel like there's more that she wants to say that she's not saying, and it's kind of tearing up and said. Okay, that's what I'm getting at. Put it out there, Daniel.

I mean, I know that she's trying to respect the split. Yeah. But, like, she's dying to say what happened. I think she is. She kind of said what happened. I think the worst part of it was that, like, it was after an egg retrieval that he broke up with her. And she seemed blindsided because there was just no signs leading up to it.

Such an emotional experience to be preparing for your future fertility. And then for him to do it. so obviously it was even more upsetting given the situation that it was done in. But we need to know, we don't need to know, obviously. But as a Bachelor podcast, we're curious to know what was his reasoning. Why did he perhaps lead her on for a while? Why did he have her move to Cleveland if there was something, if there was like an inkling inside him?

Is this bad of me to be curious about? No, I think it's exactly what happens when you're in the public spotlight. People are curious about what happened. And I think when you follow up for a living, you're extra curious because you've broke this down for three weeks. You've talked about it for three weeks. And it just feels like we're never, I mean, and I'm with you. I would love to know. I don't think we're ever going to get to know.

And I don't think we have to know. But I think it would be, it feels like from the headline, that continue to pop up week after week of comments made or things done or interviews done where it's like she's getting close to just being like yeah this is what happened like this is the whole thing because it just feels like it's tearing her up now yeah all right so this is what she said last night and this morning we're tough it's okay to cry and feel things as they come up just a gentle reminder everyone feels things in their own way in time and it's okay to cry in your birthday and it's okay to remember who you are and everything that you have to look forward

to. Obviously, I think she's getting emotional on her birthday because the birthday is like a reminder that you are possibly not where you wanted to be or not where you expected to be a year after your last birthday. It's just like a timeline in your life. I think she's, how much she's just turned 38. And, you know, she's probably just like 38. I didn't expect to be freshly broken up with. and having just frozen my eggs, I was expecting more of like, who knows, a family, a family life at that point. Yeah, yeah. It's, uh, it's, it's, it is an interesting time. Um, worse than both of them health and, uh, we're both wishing both of them, um, that they can process through this well. It just feels like it's, uh, it's maybe a little uglier than what we're getting from the outside,

but it feels like we're starting to get a pretty good picture of what's going on. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate.

Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. It's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Yumanzoor.

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We were just chatting. I think we cut it out of the podcast episode because we were like, oh, we're not sure if they're together broken up. You know, they've never announced anything. But there's just an absence on. their Instagram, right? So we assumed because when there's an absence like over six months, seems like these people aren't together anymore, they did move in together to in his house in Massachusetts. But then she posted a TikTok on Monday, last Monday, October 2nd, which basically

confirmed that they are no longer together. So there's this trending sound. It's two lone stars 2001 hit. I'm already there. So basically the phrase that you use, use the beginning of it is when they say go to hell and you're supposed to say well basically I'm already in it so instead of saying I'm already in it she goes when they say to go to hell but I'm recovering

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Well, Ashley, here's the big headline. I've called this story for weeks, and it has came to a conclusion. We now know what we were always wondering, when, or if, or how we know it. But the bachelor's, Clayton Eckert, reveals results of paternity tests following women's lawsuit. This according to the B.E. Did you watch his reaction video? I did watch his reaction video. And did you say, oh, this is cringe?

I mean, people were loving on it, weren't they? People were also saying, good for you, but also the cringiest, just manner. Yeah, I mean, here's the thing. Tone, tone. Yeah, I think it just feels the tone felt weird, the whole. time, right? Yeah, he's like so angry in hostel, which obviously, like, I've never been in a situation, nor could I be. I get why he's mad. I get if this is all, you know, a setup or if this

was somebody going after him, I get why he was mad. But, like, for, I guess for me, I would think that, like, if I was in that situation, the results, like, there would be a relief and then there be like a solemn like response but he did he uh it did feel weird um it just felt like he was celebrating a football game victory yeah that's okay that's a good point that it felt like he was celebrating a victory which in a sense it was i don't know i've never been there this is what he said quote and i'm going to just do a little bit of impersonation listen it's friday and you know what we need on friday we need some good news who's got the good news today what's the good news clayton referring to himself in third person

well test results came back early and they said there's no fetal DNA present let's go baby I knew that was going to happen thankfully five months of torture can finally be put to rest I get to relief so I from his side I can understand why he was relieved I can understand why he uh he feels like he can maybe breathe again i still don't know this whole thing was messy and weird from the very beginning right like there's been no process of this um where it's made a lot of sense or have gotten clarity like we still the five months of torture to be speaking of if he had no sexual intercourse and sexual relations and there is no torture i was going to say Ben, if he, if it was just an oral thing and there was no con, there is no sperm me in that area.

Yeah. How would you be even worried? How would you be worried at all? I mean, maybe just the public allegations, maybe the headlines, maybe the people making, you know, jumping to conclusions, maybe that was destroying him. But other than that, like, the piece that you would expect him to feel just waiting for this DNA result. And I think this is where I get confused with the whole thing. I hope both sides now can move on and move forward. But the original story, and this is where our first reactions came to play,

was that he was refusing to take a DNA test. Like, that was originally what was said in the statement. And so I think if he, I mean, and this was our first response on the very first time we wrote this story, was if he is not the father and he's so confident, why is he refusing to take a DNA test? like that would close this whole thing up right but the the whole reason the lawsuit was presented was because he was refusing to yeah to and take a test and so maybe this thing never had to get to where it got if he just would have taken a test immediately yeah it definitely it definitely probably could have yeah why not why not keep it as take it that way you could keep the whole

situation private yeah i mean there's no there's no ground for a lawsuit when you've proven that hey I am not the father and so that's where this whole thing got weird and that's when you and I were like why isn't he taking the test is that feels weird now he took the test and he's not the father and like okay great like but this could have been avoided five months ago yeah I mean I'm assuming it feels like it but like there is still somebody out there who is I mean I'm assuming looking for the father of her baby and that is well that is really sad and I'm really I'm curious again she said that she hadn't slept with anybody for months besides Clayton. She's a liar, obviously.

So who is it? Who is it? Like, what's going on? I hope she knows who it is. Oh, gosh. And we just won't know. Like, this story, again, this story has so many behind the scenes. But that's the part that's, like, really hard. And I think there's obviously somebody out there that is either hurting or is looking for attention or something when they came out of these claims against Clayton. And both those scenarios is not okay. Like, those both are. sad because she's obviously struggling. But then, yeah, Clayton's reaction was, it's just not what I, uh, I expected when I

got on my Instagram that day and I saw his video. I was like, whoa, okay. Well, this feels a little, uh, this just, it feels like a lot. Like, it feels like, uh, yeah, it feels like you want a football game. So wild story, probably the wildest of the summer leading into then, um, the non-off season. This was probably the story that, that has captured, um, more people, than most, even maybe above the Caitlin and Jason breakup, even though that was a big story too.

Well, this is our headline episode. Again, we have a huge week of content with a Bachelor breakdown of Bachelor in Paradise and the Golden Bachelor. We're going to be talking about both of those. Also, some great content for some side-off interviews from some past contestants and some current contestants. So make sure you tune in.

Follow along. You've got a lot coming your way. But until next time, I haven't been. I've been Ashley. See you guys very soon. Follow the Ben and Ashley I, almost famous podcasts on IHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon.

This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom.

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