The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - From OG to Hosting with Jesse Palmer

Episode Date: February 2, 2023

Our Almost Famous OG Trista Sutter is hanging out with new Bachelor host Jesse Palmer to get the real story of what it’s like to be the “face” of the show! Find out how things have changed since Jesse was the Bachelor and why he wishes he could be the lead now! And we hear a major secret about Zach’s season!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I am home and am getting the chance to interview Jesse. Jesse is our host with The Most, who was our first Canadian Bachelor, and I'm really excited to just chat with him. We have not talked since he got his job and or we have not talked since he became the bachelor host and the Bachelorette host and the Bachelorette host. Pretty good gig if you ask me. I'm sure he's having a lot of fun, but I want to talk to him all about how he's liking it, his personal life, and of course, this season of The Bachelor. And here we go.

It's good seeing you, by the way. Oh, my gosh. It's so good to see you. I'm so excited to chat. We have not been able to chat since, you know, actually, okay, please remind me because I'm a little bit older than you. so please show me some grace because I have memory issues. Have we met before? I think we have officially met very, very quickly once somewhere with Ron, but we have never done this together in like a professional capacity. Yeah, or had an extended conversation. I know I would have remembered that.

But yeah, if we said hi, I'm so bad these days, Jesse. I don't remember my name sometimes. As we get older, we'll just as we get older. Well, trust me. I think I'm always blaming football concussions on my failure as you should. Right. So I have something to fall back on that way. But I'm, I'll tell you, man, it's crazy. I was just thinking about this earlier. It is like it's amazing how many seasons have happened since you and I were both on this thing. And how it's just changed and evolved so much. It's crazy. It's insane. I know. I was actually doing a bunch of interviews this morning. And that was a question. How has it changed? And, I mean, there's so many ways that it's changed. It's hard to, like, come up with one profound answer. But how do you feel like it's changed because your seat has changed? You know, you went from being the guy as the bachelor to being the, what are we going to call it, the friend, the counselor, the, obviously the host. But how do you feel like it's changed having that front. receipt. Yeah, well, you know, my role, as you said, it's looking at everything through a completely different lens, obviously, right? Yeah. I don't know. Like, I just feel like, you know, from my time

as being the bachelor, I feel like the budget of the show is way bigger. I feel like people are going on way better. Way bigger. Way better adventures. Like, I got to ride an elephant, which was awesome. That was like, that was like the pinnacle versus like Zach who's like, you know, these people are now taking like helicopter rides and landing on yachts and like the Mediterranean. Those are, those are things I never saw. And I think too, like just Bachelor Nation is grown and grown and grown. And with the advent of social media that obviously wasn't around when I did it, it's just made it an entirely different platform.

And it's just the scope of everything now, I just think, is so much bigger and different. Huge. You're so right. I mean, the budget in particular, I was just laughing earlier today because Ryan and I went to Seattle. which is awesome i love seattle i love seattle you're throwing fish in the bike market i i would not have turned down uh flying on a helicopter and landing on a yacht in uh the agendas or in australia or you know what i mean yeah i know what you mean yeah i know you know damn

i know it um okay so you had some pretty big shoes to fill clearly with harrison have, well, first of all, have you talked to him? I haven't talked to him, no. I'm really happy for him, though. Yeah, I know he's got his new podcast. I haven't listened to it. But if anyone's, if anyone's able to talk about pop culture, I know he's a huge fan of that. So I'm just really happy for him and wish him the best on his next venture, yeah.

Of course. Did you feel like pressure coming into that position considering Harrison had been doing it for for so long? And I feel like the, you know, the people bachelor nation were, you know, there were, there were a lot of people who were upset. Did you feel pressure or how did you feel taking that position? You know, I try to come in and just, it just be myself. You know, I think I have a lot of my football background to sort of lean on for that. At times when you go to different teams and, you know, fans are used to a certain player who's playing your position. And all you can really do is just sort of go in and, and.

be yourself and not try to be somebody else so you know obviously as a fan of the franchise you know having been the bachelor and then having watched for years and years and years i just i sort of you know really decided to come in and just really try to be myself you know and and try to own it the best i could just being me um because i thought that would be the most authentic thing and that would come across the most natural so um you know obviously i'm still i'm still figuring it out right it's still so new to me in so many different ways and and you know this season of the bachelor for me hosting is a lot different than when I hosted with Clayton as the bachelor um and so it's just tell me why it's different well I you know I think the bachelors are different the personalities

are different the castes are different and you know it's I think when you're a host you wear so many different hats. I feel like with with Zach, you know, I've, I've had to sort of learn, you know, when to be, when to be, when to wear a certain hat at different times, for instance. Zach's, you know, this is a really emotional season. Is it? Yeah, it's the most, it's easily the most emotional that, that I posted. And I think a big part of that is because how intentional everybody is, I think what made

this very unique for me, at least, was, How many women got out of the limo and looked at Zach and said, hey, I'm really happy it's you or I'm here because of you. And I know Zach has really sort of, as people have seen, I think, through the first two episodes, he's really gone out of his way to try to give as many women as he could time. He wants to get to know as many as possible. He took everybody on a date this past episode. So, you know, he's really, he's really intent on on making this work and finding his person. but I think a lot of the a lot of the drama that unfolds throughout the course of this year I think is very organic in the sense that it's not it's not necessarily catiness it's people

falling in love and people getting their hearts broken and I think goodbyes for Zach are really tough he he's he's a type of guy that just does not want to hurt anybody's feelings And so for me, you know, when, you know, when past leads would say a goodbye, they would just sort of say a goodbye. And it was a tough moment. They'd kind of head back on in the mansion and kind of collect everybody and tell them where we're off to next. With Zach, he really like felt the moment. And, you know, there's times people will see as we move along when there's a goodbye, whether it's planned or it's not planned, whether it happens after a roast ceremony or it happens premature to a roast ceremony somewhere, we'll see. The further he goes, the harder he takes it.

And he really needs time to sort of collect himself. And he's sort of his present. He's in the moment. And it was some of those moments where sometimes, you know, you got to kind of as a host go back in there and be a shoulder to cry on. You got to give the guy a hug sometimes. And so it was just a different, it was a different overall field based on the fact that Zach is authentic to himself. he's his own guy and it was a bit of a different journey than some of the others that I've hosted so far. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor and I'm Drew Phillips and we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you.

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Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. Are there times when you want to jump in and go do something when the, and are you a producer at this point? No, no, no, no. Okay. So are there times when you want to jump in and do something different than the producer, or have there been, has there been a time like that where you've wanted to do something and it hasn't been something? that the producers have said that you can do any moments like that yeah i think i i haven't had too too many of those i would say that what i'm trying to do and i'm trying to be as mindful as i can about this just not making it about myself um and always trying to interject uh with my advice because it's really it's not about me you know it's about zach and it's about the women

i mean it's it's about the women as much as it is about zach it's their journey too And so, you know, as you know, the journey kind of, it takes itself out on its own course and it goes where it will. Zach's journey certainly does not go totally out how he thinks it's going to go. And there are a bunch of twists and turns and things that he's not prepared for. He's got a lot of difficult decisions still ahead of him. You know, my job is to try to be there and be a confidant for him and to be an ally and a voice of reason. and to give advice if Zach wants it and wants to ask for it. Zach,

and by the way, he does do that. And obviously he also has Sean, who's there for him as well, to give him some added perspective. But, you know, I think as the host,

you got to be careful not to constantly be jumping in. You know, and because, you know, I don't want to derail, you know, where Zach's going. And by the way,

you know, things that I think Zach should do aren't necessarily right for Zach. Zach knows himself better in what he wants than I do. And so I'm always trying to be sort of sort of thoughtful and aware of that. Just available if he needs you. Yeah, always, yeah, always there. And there's, you know, and there are times, certainly, that I do have to go in and be there

for him, no doubt, and interject. But I think you have to pick those moments carefully and thoughtfully. Because like, I don't need Zach thinking. I'm always like peeking over his shoulder and I'm hiding in the. Bush is like ready to jump in and like save the guy it's like you know you're proud of him you wanted to go out and do it but you know but you got you got to let him figure it out for himself too yeah of course um okay so what has been your favorite part of this new job for you uh i think it's just meeting meeting the people i i just love people i love being around them

and and i love getting to know them and so you know it's that that to me has been has been a lot of fun And I've stayed in touch with a lot of them. And so it's really, really cool. It's fun sometimes to be on a season and then see them again in paradise and kind of see where that goes and try to help people, you know, find their person and find love. And we've been successful in doing that as well. And then I have to say, because we've already touched on it, the travel doesn't suck. No kidding, right? It's a totally new thing.

It's great. I know. Where have you been able to go? Well, I mean, this season on Zach's season, he hit like the jackpot when it came to travel. So, you know, when we leave California, we go to the Bahamas and we go to London and we go to Estonia, a place the show has never been in 27 seasons. I don't even know where that is. It's like Eastern Europe. It's like close to Latvia and Riga on the Bay of Finland.

It's like right across from Finland. I've actually been there before. It's an amazing place. So I was really excited for Zach on that. And then we also go to Budapest, which is this incredibly beautiful and charming old city with tons of history. Love it. Yeah, Zach, like, totally lucked out. It's the things that you and I never got to do.

We did not. Pacific Northwest is great. I just, you know, Zach gets to sort of broadnessy eyes. I'm not, I'm not cutting on Seattle, but I definitely would have loved to go to Budapest. Okay, compared to ESPN, because you have hosted or commentated or been an analyst on ESPN, so comparing ESPN to the Bachelor, what is, what's your faith? Like, if you had to pick one, what would you do? I don't know.

It's like hard because, like, football's my wheelhouse. It's what I've always done. And I've been doing, you know, I've been working at ESPN for 17. years now you have it's crazy yeah i've been there a long time and i love it i love football and it's like you know your my role really is an analytical role you talk about football you talk about what you see you give your opinions on that you do it in 45 second sound bites it's all live all the time and then you're out where this is like a totally different animal and i think what i love about this is that you know because i'm so new at it still i still get nervous i still have those feels um you know

But I'm fanning out as well because, you know, having been the Bachelor and having been a fan of the franchise, I just love where I am and I love what I'm doing and I love the people. And like we talked about earlier, you wear so many different hats. It's never so much analytical. It's being a therapist at times, you know, being a shoulder to cry on, being a cheerleader, giving advice, being a mentor. All those different things are really, really fun. So I love to. I'm lucky that I get to do both at the same time. And it's just, they just balance and play off each other so well. are incredible jobs. I mean, I know that my husband, when you were announced as working in college football, he was, you know, I feel like he would have so much fun at that job. Actually, to the point that he was like, you should go do that. I'm like, no way. I know nothing about football compared to you. And I would be horrible as you would be great at it. You would be amazing. Oh, you're sweet. But no way. Listen, I know Ryan a little bit because my football agent also knows Ryan, Peter Schaefer from Colorado. You are Peter Schaefer's client?

Yes, he was my agent when I played football. I know it's like six degrees of separation. So I've known all about Ryan and how much he loves football, but I can tell right away, you're super talented. If you ever wanted to do it, that would be something you'd be amazing. Oh, you're the sweetest. But yeah, no, I'm, there's no way. I would stress out too much. Like, it comes naturally to guys like you and Ryan who have played in the NFL.

Like, it comes naturally. You did it for so long. It's part of who you are. For me, I could commentate on a dance competition, but not a football game. Nope, not for me. But I'll leave it to you guys, the pros. Okay, so I think this is, this is something that I, I would worry about as a host is if I said something, because I do this, everyone does this, right?

You go to a party, you're talking to somebody and you say something that you're like, why did I say that? Or you think about it like an hour later the next day and you're like, oh, that just makes me want to cringe that I said that. Is there anything that you've said so far or in a way that you've said it that you've you've just totally regretted saying it or cringed at the fact that you said it's hard i mean i in general hate seeing myself on tv i was like it when i played football i hate it uh when i played football i used to hate watching myself play back and when i see myself on espana after i absolutely hate it i hate my voice i hate the way i say things it's not how i think i sound because what I've learned is

it's never as good as you thought like there were times when I played or there's times I say things and I'm like, heck yeah, that was smooth that was a host you of my friend or a host and then I watch it back and replay and I'm like, that was so basic

that there was nothing about that that was unique or special why did you think it was so good but what I've also learned is while it's never as good as you think it's also never quite as bad as you think too You're so right. There ever are times where you kind of say something or you set something up or, you know, you're, you know, whatever it is on the show.

Like the things I get really fired up for, this is probably really a stupid thing. But you know, when you go in and, you know, when you drop the date card sometimes when the women or the guys are all in the room and you're telling them where they're flying to next and it's going to be a big reveal and it's going to be like this really incredible international destination. Everybody go pack your bags and get out because your flight leaves in an hour. let's go. In my mind, I always make it sound like, I think I'm making it seem like it's just this huge amazing thing. And sometimes I watch it back and I'm like, you really sort of let your foot off the gas on that one. Like you didn't really like drive it home. You know? And I know part of it is the fact that normally we've had a rose ceremony the night before. And you've like slept for like three hours, maybe when you go back in the mansion to tell everybody. So it's like

you're like stumbling in. Everybody's half awake and they have to go back. But I always, wish, like, I would, I would deliver that with a lot more oomph. We'll see, we'll see how it goes on Zach's season because, like, I'm fired up for them because they're getting to go to these amazing places. And so hopefully that, hopefully it comes across better. But it's, again, never as good as I thought, never quite as bad also. Yeah, that's a great way to look at it. I think you're right. I remember hearing something from someone about, um, don't worry too much about what other people think because they really aren't thinking that much about you. You know, Like, don't worry so much.

It's all good. You know, just do you. And, yeah. Okay, so I would love to know, like, about you personally. Obviously, you being on the show as the host, we don't get to know a lot about who Jesse is. And you're, like, day to day. I would love to know how you met your wife and tell me a little bit about her. Yeah, thanks.

So I'm super lucky. I'm married to this amazing woman who's way out of my league. And I met Emily. Emily's from Brazil and she lived in New York City for 11 years. I was there for 21 years. I stuck around after I played during all my different TV stuff

and I actually met Emily in a very organic way which I'm really happy about. I met her at a boxing class actually in New York City. Yeah. So I watched this gorgeous woman all sweaty and she was punching this bag and she was just beating the crap out of it.

And I was so turned on. But I was also kind of scared. It was like this fine line in the middle. And I was like, man, if I'm ever lucky enough to date this woman, I am never going to lie to her. Right. Good. And so that's kind of how it started. Yeah. It's just kind of how it started. And our first date was a boxing class and then it kind of evolved to protein shakes and then lunches. Emily really slow clay. She really kind of wanted to see what I was about. And, you know, here we are like almost six years later. And, and, you know, we are like almost six years later. And she's still putting up with me. So it's great.

Oh, stop. I mean, I'm sure if you speak French to her, she's like a puddle. Yeah, it's like when she speaks Portuguese to me, I love it when she speaks to her parents or her friends. You're just sort of sitting there and you're like in a coma. Just, you probably just called me a bunch of bad names, but I don't care. It sounds amazing. Who cares? Yeah.

Your lunch order is making me drool. It's just a bit of it. Hi, my name is Enya Emanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect.

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Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. Are you guys based out of New York still? We, no, we moved to Miami, actually, back in April. Oh, amazing. Well, Emily was over the cold weather. Oh, that's amazing. I actually lived in Miami for seven years. I went to University of Miami and danced for the heat.

I did. I did not know that. Wow. Where were you living when you were there? Coral Gables. So I stayed close to school. And then I worked at Miami Children's Hospital, which it's called something else now. It's the Children's Hospital there.

But I was like five minutes away from work, which was amazing. That is amazing. It was fun. They actually just announced that we're having a reunion in March where all of the heat dancers are going to come and we get to dance on the court and just reunite. and I'm trying to make it work, I don't know. But I'll let you know if we come to Miami. I would love to see you. Do you ever bump into Ashley or JP?

I do not since I've been down there. And I also haven't been there at a tonne too. It's like with the schedule, I'm sort of there for a couple days and I'm gone. But Emily is so happy. We're close to the beach and we've got the dog and she walks the dog into the water every morning. And it's just like her paradise. Yeah, it's great. Love it.

Has she been able to travel with her? you? She has, which is really, really important for us in our relationship. Because I'm constantly on the go. And so what's really, really neat is that she gets to come out to L.A. when we're filming in L.A. And then on some of these trips we take, she's able to kind of pop out and join along. And so over the last year and a half, she's gotten to sort of meet everybody on the crew. And there's like, you know, the Bachelor crew, it's like, it's like 400 deep. There's so many people. And so there's a lot of familiarity there with her, which is really nice, meeting people and our producers and like the camera people and the ops and audio and everyone that that makes

the show so great. She's kind of, she's kind of becoming, you know, sort of this extended part of that family, which has been really, really cool. And it's, it's great for us to be able to spend that time away from home too. Yeah, of course. I think it's so important to get away. And like I said, I was doing some interviews this morning and people were celebrating our 20th wedding anniversary in December and you know the question has come up what's your what's your secret or you know how do you keep going and I think it's all about prioritization and making sure that your relationship is is at the top of the list you know when you're when you're traveling you try to do stuff together when when you are home you try to do stuff together and just

making sure that each other knows that that's such great advice yeah you are each other's top priority. I think that's the best way to go about life and make sure that you're happy. So are you guys looking to expand your family at all in the future? Is that something? More dogs! Yay! No, we've talked about, yeah, we would love to have kids. And so I think we're, we're sort of both at a point where we're ready to have little jessies and Emily's running around. And so we're, you know, we're excited and hopeful and we'll see what happens. Yeah, right. I mean, she's got a busy schedule following you around.

But hopefully you can have little bachelor babies. I've waited. Yeah, I've waited a long time to do this. I mean, it took me a lot of years to finally get down on the knee. So I feel like it's, it's time to kind of hustle it up a little bit. Start getting some little ones running around the house. Yeah. I have two younger brothers, I have kids.

So I got to catch that. Oh, you have you, do they have kids? Yes. I have four nephews. Oh, so your parents are like, okay, it's time. Let's go. Yeah. Time for a little girl. That would be great. Oh, yes. Would you be, you know, I hate saying this because as a parent, you can't pick a favorite. And when I was pregnant, everyone's like, what do you hope you would have?

I just wanted a healthy baby. But do you feel like being a healthy baby? but do you feel like being a girl dad would be, you know, in your wheelhouse or would you rather throw a football with a little boy? I mean, you hit it on the head. For me, it would just be if we had a, you know, at this point, beggars can't be choosers. I'll take any. Yeah. Totally take anything. And hey, you can have a daughter and throw the football with the daughter. Totally.

Totally. I just I would I would love to have a little a little baby girl and because I know I would be a total daddy's girl and she would have me wrapped around her finger and I would do it I would do it without any hesitation we just somehow don't make a lot of girls in our family I have two brothers my brother has three boys my other brother has a boy so something's got to give I think it's me I'm going to manifest this you're going to Do it right now. Yes. Every night you're just going to think about it. Okay, swimmers, this is your job. Let's go. You got one job. One job. Okay, I want to end on, on Zach's season. Give us a little tease, if you, if you will. Obviously, I know you can't spoil anything. It comes with a job. But is there something you can tell us that you haven't told us. anyone else or something you can tell us about this season that is super exciting that we'll get people to listen to this podcast. Well, you know, like for me, like I what I kind of feel and why I'm so excited about this season, especially for Bachelor fans out there and people that have been watching the show

a long time, including when we were, we were on the show, is that I think this is going to feel very nostalgic to a lot of them. This season really is a throwback in the sense that it is so much more about the love story and less about the drama there absolutely is drama no doubt about it and you can't like you can't avoid that but that's not going to be the prevailing overriding theme of this season we know zack's intentions on being there and these women are very intent as well they can't you know they really are there for zack and so like we were talking about earlier um it's extremely emotional and and you know we're sort of going to ride the lightning and ride the wave here with zack as he tries to navigate all

of this. But, you know, his sole main focus is finding love. He's not there to play the drama. You kind of saw that in this most recent episode. He just, Zach's able to make decisions and not let things manifest and fester. He, he can, he can step up. He can make tough decisions and move on. I think that's endearing him right now a lot with a lot of the women in the house. And so, you know, I just spoke with Zach. I can't give the ending away. Zach is extremely happy and he wouldn't change anything about how this journey unfolds.

So there's just a lot of kind of old bachelor vibes going on. We got the Bachelor Bowl coming up in the next episode, which is something that's become synonymous with the franchise. There's a massive pool party, which we had on my season at the mansion

when I was the Bachelor. Zach's about to partake in that coming up as well. And there's just, you know, I think people are just going to sort of see and feel a lot of a lot of the love. which which really at the core of this show, that's what it is about.

That's what it should be about. I think we're really sort of getting back to that on this season. Good. That's why I've always watched. I feel like I love love and I love to see a love story unfold and root for the couple and and, you know, see how it pans out after the show. So I'm glad to hear that. I mean, I wish only the best.

for every single person who has filled the shoes that we have been lucky enough to fill prior and I hope that for Zach too. So thank you so much. I do have one last question. So if you think you can put a word in that, you know, Sean Lowe is great and all and he's successful in his relationship and, you know, he's got kids and they're very happy. What about me? Like, dude, hello. You're on. I will be the messenger for you. You're ready. No, I'm like, dude, they must have something against me.

I must have done something wrong because I am never asked to come back. And, you know, Zach was like, oh, Sean's been married for however long. I can't remember how long he's been married for. And he's super successful in a relationship. And I'm like, yeah, I know, me too. But I was on it way before that. I'm just over here. I'm just over here.

I'm getting ready for a dance for you. Wait for the phone call. I know. I'll totally be the messenger for you. I'll put a good word in. I thought you were going to ask me for a job at ESPN. I was like, yes. Absolutely, we'll put you on the sidelines.

My husband would die. He would be so excited. Oh, my goodness. Jesse, thank you so much for your time, for your energy. I think you're doing a great job. It's great to watch you. And I'm glad you're there to support our new little siblings. siblings.

Do you little siblings. Little gaffers running all over. That's right. It's so great being on with you. Thank you so much. Thank you, Jesse. All right, we'll see ya. All right, cool.

Have a great day. You too. Have fun in those interviews. Oh, yeah. You're the high point. We'll see you. Okay, bye. Bye.

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