The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - From Pooping To Whooping It Up! (RHUGT EP 6 Recap)

Episode Date: September 15, 2026

Ben and Lauren are headed to the 305 to recap the Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip to Miami!We survive Vicki’s travel-induced constipation long enough to whoop it up with tequila; we break down why Lisa is trying so hard to make friends with Teresa, and we dissect Luann’s unstoppable urge to interrupt. Plus, we have the full backstory on Lisa’s history with the RHOSLC cast!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Welcome back to Almost Famous. It's been and Lauren back together to recap another episode of the Ultimate Girls Trip. Girl's trip. It's getting fun. That should be like how we enter the podcast. It's just like, Girls trick. Yeah. This week, the women are in Miami.

Vicky went from constipated to whooping it up, as they say. Luan can't stop flirting. Got a lot to talk to Lauren about when it comes to Louan. Kyle's rolling her eyes and Giselle and Portia still aren't over Lisa's late entrance on the bus. Let's break it down. or Lauren, do you poop when you travel? Yeah, I do. I honestly have great bowel movements.

Got to be honest. What about you? I struggle. So I bring some like probiotics with me. Yeah. Because it can get ugly and sometimes it can't. Like it's just kind of like it's a guessing game for me. The reason I ask is because obviously Vicky is struggling.

And so she decides to not only take two laxatives, also mix that with some. fiber and we kind of come into this beach day. You know, when I think about a beach day with a bunch of women, Lauren, it's like, hey, this is where you kind of like get sexy, showing off the bod, laying out getting some sun, probably like, you know, a lot of these women are single, so they're going to be flirting. And Vicki just can't stop pooping herself. Yeah, this wasn't a very sexy time. And Vicki's sound effect for the amount of poop that is coming out was so, like, real. It was so yucky.

But then you saw flashbacks to other housewives that had pooping issues from New York, mostly, mostly the New York ladies. And Sonia, I will always remember that she, like, went to poop and she accidentally pooped all over the floor. I'm like, how does that even happen? Yeah, how does that happen? And they showed it, which is kind of gross. Like, it's gross to me.

No matter how many times it happens in my life that I get pooped on by my. daughter, by the way, just be clear. Yes. It still grosses me out the idea of seeing it. And they show it. Like I have a visual now of the consistency of her bowel movement. Yeah, exactly. And I think it was like a recurring theme for her.

I think something's going on. Even when I see a public bathroom and I see poop on, I'm like, how does that even happen? The logistics of how that happens, I don't understand. But yeah, Vicki's having a hard time. but I'm glad that she feels comfortable enough with these women to talk about her bowel movements. Yeah, Kyle is the one that says it

where they just don't talk about it in Beverly Hills. I'm not surprised by that necessarily. There's a lot that I could assume goes into not talking about this because girls don't poop in the Beverly Hills. But it was interesting to me when they did do the montage of how many conversations about bowel movements and the human discretion exist on the housewives.

It feels like something that would not be talked about to me. Yeah, it was all like New York. They, I feel like maybe New Yorkers are more open about everything. So they're going to be open about it rather than like the reserved OC Salt Lake City

Beverly Hills. And I think the girls in New York were like actually really close. So I think also felt more comfortable to say it, rather than just being like proper ladies thrown together. So they feel comfortable talking about it with each other. Yeah, it's not like it's not, you know, it's obviously low-hanging fruit. We can make a bunch of like potty jokes on here and we would giggle and nobody would think

you're that funny or that we were that clever. Right. It's not really a conversation I mind having if it's brought up and I know somebody's interested. I do a lot of trips in the course of a year and bring a lot of people to Central America. and it is always a conversation that somebody asks me why we go down there. If they're a 22-year-old college student and she's like, hey, how do I make this happen? Where can I go?

We're in the middle of nowhere. Or if it's somebody in their 60s who's like, hey, I'm having trouble. Do you have anything I can use? It's not uncommon to have these conversations. As adults, we should be having them. I just found it to be a lot. And then I started to feel bad for Vicky because here's the thing. She had a rough night, you know, last night or the last episode.

She had to leave early. She wasn't feeling well. I believe her on that, I think. But now she has to go to the beach. And I can't imagine a worse scenario than the hot, sandy beach in a bathing suit while at the same time you're not feeling good. So true. But she really pulls it together this episode and she has a great time. We see whooping it up, Vicky.

And as she says, you can't bring it. the whoop it out out of someone. You have to just be in the mood to whip it up. And I couldn't agree more. You know, when people are like, come on, have another drink. I'm like, like, like we said last episode, you can't make me have a good time if I've already stopped having a good time. So she kind of shows us her personally coming out at the beach.

She has lots of tequila that will do it for anyone, pretty much. Yeah. But yeah, but do you think the pooping situation, like people don't poop on vacation or when they're out because it's what they're eating? I think it's a mixture of eating. I imagine for myself it's the comfort, like it's the routine of like knowing where I'm at, you know, where I'm going to be. I think new environments, I am kind of a germaphobe when it comes to this stuff. So like at the airport, you know, I'm like double or I'm putting those like toilet seat like covers on.

Oh yeah. Yeah. I know I have some friends who are like, I don't care. I'm like, I definitely care. At the airport 100%. These people are coming from everywhere carrying every. everything. Yes, at the airport, I'm definitely using the paper. Yeah, I'm not, yeah, I'm not really shy about that shit. I think it's a little anxiety. I think it's just enough anxiety to cause the body to say, nope, not happening. And during a filming of a show, you know, I'm assuming there is anxiety.

And you're traveling all the time. You're in new places. You're eating new things. You're not staying hydrated. That's another issue, I think, on TV shows is you're not chugging water like you do in the course of a normal day. Dude, so true. Yes. A lot to it. But we could kind of get over this whole scene. And then we flash back to the hotel.

We get to see Lisa and Teresa sitting together. Lisa is trying hard. I think she knows she messed up, Lauren. Like messed up by being late. It was another reason for people to get mad at her. But, and I think the show wanted to show it this way. But she comes off very earn. earnest to Teresa to me, like trying really hard.

Yes. And even the producer asks her, like, do you realize that she's pumping your tires this whole time? And I think because she knows, like, Teresa, it will ride for her. And it is, like, kind of uncomfortable. It's kind of like watching someone suck up to the popular girl in high school. And she, but then I, after that was brought up, I started noticing that Lisa gives compliments to everyone.

Like, even when we go. see her meet up with Miami girls like oh you'd be a great lawyer oh you look amazing oh you look and it's just like it's it's kind of like a nervous thing which is a very good quality for to be a nervous quality is to compliment people but it does get a little bit awkward yeah you're right uh it's it's a great quality to have but it also if somebody's giving me too many compliments i start to ask internally what are you hiding from me like why are you just being nice to me. Like there's no human that just sits down and says, wow, man, you're this, this, this, this, this, this, this. I would say, hey, like, you don't actually think I'm, like,

what do you not like about me? What is annoying you about me? Like, tell me, I'd rather us be real here than I would walk away from this, just feeling like light or not lied. I think she's probably being truthful. She's trying hard, Lauren. She feels like she needs to make friends. Yes, she needs friends. Yes. She needs friends. She's not. used to it on her season. So she's like, I better have these girls like me, especially with this new Salt Lake City season, I guess ramping up that she needs to, you know,

keep everyone on her good side, pumping the tires. I might have to watch Salt Lake City now because I want to see how this all plays out because it feels like right now there's no getting better. It's only getting worse by this road trip. And there is a big disconnect. between the Salt Lake City cast and Lisa right now. And so I kind of want to watch how it plays out.

I know because I don't nothing. All I know is Lisa from right now. What do you think of Lisa? I like her. I like her. I see nothing wrong. I mean, yeah, so she was late to the bus,

which Giselle brings up again. And Giselle again is the person that is like, oh, you want me to start? Let me just bring it up. I absolutely nowhere. We see them at lunch. And they're like, I have another thing to say.

If you just apologize right away, it would be no problem. And then she's, and then Lisa's like, well, I'm burned by my own season and my own cast. And I knew that even if I apologized, nothing good would have come of it.

So I didn't really do it. But she's like, now I'm learning that you guys are way more forgiving. And I thought that was a great way to handle it too. She was like, I'm not used to actual nice kind people. So I don't know. I kind of like Lisa.

I like the way she thinks. That was a bad move being late, but other than that, I see nothing wrong. Yeah, still not a fan of the lateness. I don't know if it would be something I would talk about the next day. It doesn't,

it felt disrespectful, but it doesn't feel like an issue worth harping on because it's done. We're over it. Giselle is a producer's dream. So good. Yeah, so good.

He bringing it up. Just hammer this thing into the ground. Cause those fights. The ladies are going to a beach party. They're visiting Miami, and Real Housewives stars of Miami, Alexia and Marisol, are hosting the beach party. The ladies walk out to the beach, and there's a whole setup with mannequins and bikinis and men shirtless with neckties on. That seems to be a theme on the housewives. Naked men.

Yeah, naked men. Yeah, exactly. I mean, because you got all these single peri menopausal, menopausal women. looking for their next man and hopefully that one of them hooks up with one of the men because that would be a great storyline. They never really end up due.

Ending up due? They never end up due. I think it made sense. It just didn't come out the way you wanted it to. They never end up doing that. Yeah. Okay. But Luann would be closest.

She's trying. She was trying. She's trying. I don't think the men are biting. What does a hookup like that even like entail? You're on the beach. You start to flirt. You say, hey, come back to the hotel.

Yeah. The guy does. And that's it. And that's it. And then you'll talk about it the next day in your interview. And you're like, hey, that was fun? I guess you're right. It wouldn't really be much to talk about.

It's more of like the exchanging of the number being salacious and then seeing them exiting the hotel room. Because, yeah, I mean, Luanne definitely is trying? She, is it just because she's like, horned? up or is it a validation thing or what is it you know her better than me i think she just loves men she wants the validation from literally everyone um and i she loves sex she literally said at lunch here that she wants to die having sex she loves it let's move into that louan at lunch um i guess we'll close the beach we'll close the beach scenario where they snatch wigs that would seem like a kind of fun

game fun but like pointless Yeah, it didn't make a lot of sense to me. I didn't like it. It felt like a filler. Like, hey girls, this will be fun. Just like pull each other's hair, run around for a bit, get competitive. It's fine. It's fine.

Yeah, well, I guess closing out the wig snatching scene, they go into like just conversations with Vicky and how I guess Porsche calls Vicky out for leaving her alter ego party early. And then we already said, like, Vicky was done. She was having a really awkward time. And then Portia and Gisela are like, is it because you weren't getting the same

treatment as Nini? And it's like, I don't think that was it. I personally don't think that was it. I think yes, it was a way more like over the top situation. But that's Atlanta. Like, Nini is over the top. Always has been.

Even people have never watched Housewives knows that Nini Leaks is over the top. That's not the, that's not for Vicky. I don't think she, Vicky was being sour because of that. I think she was just awkward and she had no one to talk to. Yeah, it just felt like she was awkward.

I mean, I think that's the, she can say she didn't feel good. She can say all this things. I think the best excuse was, hey, I just, like,

wasn't having a good time. Like, this was not my scene. I didn't know anybody. Wasn't having a good time. So I left. Do I think it was the right move? I don't know.

No. Am I, like, on the Vicky, like, train not at all, but I do understand leaving a party early. So as I said last week, I'm all for as soon as you start to desire to leave, you leave because as you said at the beginning, you can't wop it up by being forced to. Absolutely. And Giselle says in her interview,

she's like, you know, I've just never met a housewife that isn't over their top and isn't super confident. So like getting to know Vicky, that's new for me. She's, She's like, I've never met a housewife that leaves a party early that doesn't want to be center of attention. So that started making me think about Ashley being like, yeah, Ashley gets super awkward at parties. She always is worried about her bunions hurting and wanting to leave and being hungry and all the things. So like if Giselle were to meet Ashley in real life, she would probably think the same thing about her that she does about Vicky, just like being slightly uncomfortable and not being a classic housewife. Yeah, there's definitely like some similarities between normal. like what we imagine housewives characters and then some of those who have just not fit into that mold

actually would 100% be one of those final comment here the two teams that were formed were the crash outs and the winners what a terrible name to choose during this the winners crash outs and we both hate those the names so i don't know like how you out of all the creative juices that you have and all the opportunities that you have as a housewife to be creative. You say, here's a name, the winners. They don't give a shit about this game. No one cared. That's really what it was.

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that dominate America today. Listen to revisionist history, the Staten Island Problem, on the Iheart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We do see everybody go to lunch. A lot of just things happening at lunch, a lot of storylines that kind of get compounded into a very short segment. Yeah. As you mentioned, Vicki gets called out.

for leaving the party early, but then also we see Luann. And we see Luann start to try to lift Vicky spirits. We see Vicki start to open up. We see some tequila shots. We see her personality coming to life. And it's really wonderful to see. We see as she gets in the car even,

she's kind of like booty shaking it a little bit, like doing some stuff. So happy for her. But this is the catalyst, the start of Luanne this episode, Lauren. I want, if. you don't mind, kind of walk through these Luannes storylines. We see her talking about somebody's mom, the death of a guy on a toilet. Yeah. We see Luanne talking about wanting to die, you know,

having intercourse. Yeah. Obviously, Luan had a lot to drink, but this isn't, I wouldn't, even if she was sober, I would think this is just classic Luan, wanting to talk about herself, being the center of attention. Marisol, her mom, died and she's a big part of the show. So I guess her and Luann were close. So Luan jumps in and says, oh, I talked to her and I knew all of this. And of course, making this death about herself. And then Marisol says that her mom died of a stroke.

And then Luanne, I guess, took that as the opportunity to say how she wanted to die. And then segueing into how her stepfather or uncle, uncle or something died on the toilet and made it obviously about sex and the fact that he had an erection as he died and so it's all crazy okay um but and she's talking in very inopportune moments everyone wants luana shut up even when they're like covering her mouth she's not stopping do you okay as a luann fan here yeah did you want her to shut up yes i wanted her to shut up i thought there were some parts were funny but especially when Vicky was trying to make her speech.

I was like, let Vicky talk. We have to give, we have to cuddle her a little bit, let her talk. Obviously, it was very disrespectful for her to cut off Marisol when she was talking about her mom. And Porsche, if Portia's telling you, be quiet, I would, I would absolutely listen. So, yeah, it was time for her to stop talking. But the fun, I held when they, when they cut to Lou Anne and the car on the way home and she was still talking. and talking, saying her, her song lyrics to crying Lisa in the back, I was howling. I was like, this woman loves herself.

So amazing. See, that's what makes you a better person than me, Lauren. Yeah. Because I watch that and I want to pull my hair out. Like, I'm mad. Like, I'm, like, actually, like, angry at this situation. And you're watching it being like, no, I still love that one. Yeah, I love that woman.

Yeah. But explain that to me. I don't get it. I want to, I need to learn from you on this. I don't know. I think that maybe she's like so, so polar opposite of me that I find it fascinating to watch. Like when I'm drunk or I've had any kind of drinks, I want to make sure I'm quiet and I'm not annoying.

Like I'm overthinking everything comes in my mouth to make sure I'm not the annoying drunk person, but she does the polar opposite. She thinks everything she has to say is gold. She was like, always leave a party early because you want to keep them wondering where you're going. And it's like, no one's asking this. No one's asking this. Unsolicited advice. I don't know.

I'm going to tell you. Maybe it's just absolutely foreign to me to act that way that I find it funny. Yeah, I'm with you. It's very, like if I find myself in a situation, where I'm uncomfortable, I get quiet. Yeah. And if I do happen to over talk, I usually lay in my head on the pillow that night and go, why in the world did you do that?

Why did you say that? These people are going to think you're so annoying or you just hurt that person's feelings. And I run through that scenario for hours. Hours. Yes. The worst is a wedding. Like it's loud. You're like just trying to come up with anything to say.

You're drunk. And I'm just like, why the hell? Do I drink at all? But she's, she has this recorded and she gets to watch yourself back. And the amazing thing about Luann is she's going to say, it was absolutely fabulous advice. I was the smartest person in the room. So no Sunday, not Sunday scaries, no, what is it called, anxiety for her. It's, it is, it is, you're right.

It is, you're bringing, so you are teaching me because I'm looking at this being like, there is a, there's an anger to me because I, maybe am just jealous that she has so little shame and guilt in her life that she just runs full speed ahead and then like doubles down goes down got to love her oh yeah it's wild the Luann is obviously a big character at the lunch as Lauren's mentioned she is a character and she continues to be a character throughout this whole episode but we do get to see everybody kind of bring up this Lisa being late to the bus scenario again, Lisa does finally admit it was not right of her. I don't know if that comes from a place of just like, hey, I'm so tired of hearing about this,

or I actually was not, it's been a day, thought about it, I was not good for doing that to you all. But what it does end up doing is it does make Lisa feel like people still don't like her, no matter where she goes. that's a terrible feeling but I do feel like she's getting a sense of these women now and she knows that if she just talked about it calmly and apologized they would have forgiven her

and she's not used to like the blind rage of her Salt Lake City cast so I think she's just understanding a little bit more that apologies are welcomed but then this kind of goes into like okay while we're on the topic of Lisa let's just

another Giselle thing bringing up that we hear that you like sell stories to bloggers that's what your Salt Lake CityCath said about you can you just squash that so we know everything about you now Lisa and she's like no definitely not obviously not but then I I don't understand

she was with Giselle and Portia were saying that like you have but this blogger has your phone number like that doesn't how was that your proof that's again like a blind statement just like the circle jerk thing that it's like so this guy has your phone number doesn't mean anything more yeah i mean i think reality steve has my phone number that's what i'm saying i'm trying to think i'm like i'm sure ashley has some crazy people's phone numbers and it doesn't mean you're selling stories no i mean teams i mean everything every time something

happens in bachelor world tm z calls me at some point to get a quote um doesn't mean i answer or maybe i answer every time oh they'll never know second kid on the way we need to be selling some stories i need money you heard it first guys um yeah so um and then lisa was like if i had anything to say i would say it through my mouth or my hands basically she would tweet it out she would make a tic-tok and she has nothing to hide and i believe that she's like i am very comfortable saying my peace to these women without hiding by behind a blogger or a TikToker, but it is the fact that would she do anything for money?

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She gets support from Teresa. And one of the reasons I think Teresa is doing this is because she mentioned that her daughter, Gia, watched Salt Lake City and said that Lisa, the way the women treat Lisa mirrors the way the woman treat Teresa on Real Housewives of New Jersey. So I'm guessing Teresa at this point feels some sort of. sort of empathy, relatability to Lisa and follows her to the bathroom. Lisa sounds like she's crying why she stands in the bathroom,

and she's talking about these girls from Salt Lake City and how they're mentally ill stalkers is what she says about them. It does feel like, I mean, again, I don't have a lot of context for Salt Lake City. It does feel like Lisa is on her own little lonely island in the midst of filming the show, which makes me wonder why in the world does she keep filming it? Yeah, I think that fame is very important, Lisa, from what I have gathered. So that's why you probably keep filming. Also, money, obviously.

But you would think the one person that's hated is the person in the wrong. But since Lisa is all I know, I have a hard time believing the other women. So if I go into Salt Lake, I'm already going to be on my familiar girl's side. Maybe we bring in expert Heather to the conversation to help us make sense again this week of the Salt Lake City situation with Lisa. Of these mentally ill stalkers. Yeah. It's a big quote. Yeah.

Like we've kind of talked about in the past, the other women have come for Lisa with rumors about her marriage and the great lengths that she'll go to to, quote unquote, you know, close a deal for her business. But Lisa doesn't do herself any favors. She will go to things like a premiere or a screening and then for a movie. And then we'll be like, she's famous for last season saying, I live a way different life than the rest of you guys. Like I was with Ben Affleck at, you know, such an event. So she doesn't do herself any favors by name dropping and, you know, kind of throwing that in the women's face because, you know, the other women are like,

your life is actually not that different from the rest of ours. And she really does think that her life is very different from theirs. She's not totally on an island when it comes to the cast. She does have Meredith Marks, who's been like kind of her little, you know, side by side since the show started. They have history together. But I would say that they are pretty removed right now from the rest of the cast, the two of them, because also there was an incident, we won't have to go out all the details,

but there was an incident on a plane last season that was focused on basically Meredith was, according to the rest of the women, acting erratic on the flight. Lisa was sitting next to her. Lisa was allegedly egging her on and joining in in the erratic behavior. And so when they landed,

all the women were like, hey, you guys shouldn't have been acting like that. And Lisa and Meredith were both like, we weren't acting like anything. Everything's fine. You know, if it was so bad, I would have gotten kicked off the flight. Did I get kicked off the flight?

And there was no footage of the flight. So everybody for the rest of the season was like, what happened on the flight? What happened all the flight? Yeah, the fans got upset because you can't be making a storyline out of something that there's literally no footage of. So this is partly why she's kind of on her back foot with her cast. Yeah.

There is a lot to, it sounds like there's a lot of backstory. And so not all of the frustrations from the Salt Lake City ladies feels unwarranted. Doesn't seem factual. Like, okay, so she says she lives a different life than all these other ladies. And it's not true, but she's just like blowing out proportion. She's excited that she went to a screening where Ben Affleck was. So she's like, so it's like, okay, she's just like exaggerating a little bit. I don't know.

It can get annoying. I think I get that. I have buddies, right, who are single and the things they like brag about, you're like, all right, dude, that's cool. I'm glad you're having such a good time out there. But you haven't asked about me in, you know, six months. You have no clue what my life looks like and what I'm enjoying in my life. So I'm a little frustrated at our friendship right now.

It sounds like you do that enough and you can get over it. And then, you know, it doesn't help with Lisa. showing up to the bus late, being unapologetic about it, and all these other ladies who are probably trying to get to know her too. And they've heard a lot of things going, yep, that's the Lisa that everybody's talked about. She's better than everybody else. I can see where we're getting to where we're getting is my point. I don't know enough yet, but I can see on why there's frustration towards Lisa.

And I'm also seeing, Lauren, I think it's worth noting, why Lisa's frustrated, not only with the other woman, but probably with herself on why do I continue to put myself in situations for other women to get angry at me. So true. Is that true? Yeah. Yeah, I think that's true because she seems like actually apologetic. And she's like, I can't ruin another group of women.

I have to like reel it in. Like, I have to be overly nice. I need these people to like me because I can't have another whole group against me because then that'll be factual. That won't just be feelings. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, we see episode or previews for the next episode. Lauren, the women are going to a lingerie party.

Whoop, whoops, sounds like a great time. Sounds like a nightmare. Yeah, I was going to say, I've never heard it. I mean, I think I've seen these, you know, at like a Vegas club. I went to one when I was 17 years old. It was a high school party. Like, how weird is that? That's the only laundry party I've ever been to.

Like, why do my mom let me go out of the house in a corset? Did you feel cool, though? Oh, I was like, yeah, this is like totally age and appropriate. I'm really, really cool, yeah. I can't imagine a bunch of 17-year-old boys going to this lingerie party be like, yes. Yeah, I know, seeing like barely their boobies. Yeah. So exciting.

Yeah. The Real Housewives of Miami, Lisa, and Larsa are fighting. The girls' trip travels to New York City next. That's going to be fun. We see the women getting emotional with some of the New York cast members. and the women attend another costume party that just seems like the real housewives love costume parties. Slow hanging fruit, I think.

It's so boring. Whatever. Do you like costume parties? I'm like, oh my God, that's so funny. You're dressed in this. Whatever. It's just not interesting to me. I agree.

I'm not. I have this like a full body tigger suit. Uh-huh. Um, that I got in college for like Halloween. That's it every year. That's, I rock that thing, beginning to end,

but I do think I'm dressing up for Halloween with Jess and Winnie this year. Are you willing to expose the theme early or no? Oh, yeah, I think so. I mean, we're going to go with Winnie the Pooh theme. So maybe Tigger comes back. Maybe I'm just rocking Tigger. You're like, actually, I think we're going to do something a little different this year. Winnie the Poe.

That's true. That's fun. You're just going to be Tigger again. hilarious. It's very comfy, I'm sure. But yeah, Ashley's like, oh, like every little detail of this theme costume must be accurate. And I was kind of the one where I was like, oh, I'll be a bunny and I'll just wear, you know, bunny ears or something. So, yeah. I don't get too into it. Not too big into it. But I am excited that they're going to New York and we get to see hopefully the original New York cast members.

because you got to be introduced to Ramona. Oh. Oh, I would love to see it. I hope a Ramona's there. There is a new cast of New York. You're going to think, no, you're going to bash your head into a window. But it will make everything exciting. So I'm excited for that.

Oh, my goodness. Again, we ended another episode of the Almost Famous podcast by saying, how in the world did I get here? every week. I watch it and I go, I don't know how Ben's doing over there. And not good. Not good. All right. Hey, we'll be back next week with another breakdown of the Ultimate Girls trip leading up to season two of the Real Housewives of Rhode Island. Lauren, do we have confirmation that Ashley will be a part of this next season yet? Will Ashley be part of Real Housewives Season two? Real Housewives of Rhode Island season two can

not confirm cannot confirm okay we're being on to the edges of our seats for that announcement hope so yeah that'd be cool i like watching ashley hope sometimes she's on this ultimate girls trip because i'm learning a lot as we go i know i can't imagine with all these big personality so that she would make like an appearance if ultimate girls trip continues ashley in 20 years could still be on this thing based on how this season is wow that's That's nuts. It's nuts. She's not 40 yet, right?

She's 38. She'll be 39 in March. Yeah. Yeah, she'd be almost 60 years old, rocking it out, whoop-whooping it up, going to lingerie parties. Dawson would be 24 and already the Bachelor. Like, this is crazy. The life is going to get really fun.

Yeah, yeah. That is cool. Good for Ashley. Can't wait for 20 years from now that you and I are still sitting here talking about it. Could you, I know. Maybe you'll be a house. wife by then. We can only hope.

Give me my screen time, guys. I think fans would love it. I know you're loving listening to Lauren and her amazing breakdowns of the Real Housewives here at the Almost Famous Podcast. We have so much content coming your way. Episodes with Ashley. Interviews with former contestants

of The Bachelor. We're also going to be breaking down Dance with the Stars. Bob Giddy and I have something fun coming up that you'll want to pay attention. attention to. But then obviously along the way, we'll be talking about everything, Bachelor Nation and adjacent to Bachelor Nation, like, you know, the Real Housewives of Rhode Island, hopefully. Hey, we'll be back soon. We'll talk to you then. Until next time, I've been Ben.

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