The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - From the Mansion to the Yacht with Wells Adams and Chris Harrison (PART 1)

Episode Date: October 9, 2025

Ben is on a cruise around New York City with Wells Adams and Chris Harrison and they’re revealing all the secrets from the Bachelor Mansion and beyond! Find out how the Bachelor remembers the names of all the contestants, what Wells and Chris REALLY think about Taylor Frankie Paul as the Bachelorette, and if Chris would ever return as the host!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's the almost famous podcast, Ben here. And this past weekend, I had the best time with Chris Harrison and Wells Adams. We were in New York with City Cruises. Hanging out with some of the best fans from Bachelor Nation. We had such a great time sharing behind-the-scenes stories answering. fan questions. We wanted to share it here on the pod. So, let's dive into the night. Welcome to City Cruises. Apparently we're in the Big Apple. That's a nickname for New York. I just found out backstage. Thank you for being here. Thank you for taking your Sunday night to join us. And thanks for

being a part of Bachelor Nation, a show and a franchise that really meant the world to me. My heart and soul was in that show for almost 20 years. And I loved every bit of it. I truly did. Almost every bit of it. I brought some of my best friends, and this has been a great week. We were in Boston a couple of nights ago. Now we're here in New York. We're going to do another cruise in San Diego. And when you get to spend time with, you know, people on the show, you're like, oh, good, other cast members.

No, no. These are my very dear friends, some of my best friends in the world, which is a kind of an excellent byproduct of what I got to do for a living for almost 20 years. So I want to bring them on. First up, People Magazine's 47th, sexiest man of the year. But he's the best damn bartender in the world. Ladies and gentlemen, give it up for Wells Adams. Wait, is this how I find out that I'm the 47th?

Congratulations. Oh, my God. I heard you backstage. and you said something to the effect of this is the most dramatic cruise ever? Ever. I don't think so. I watched a Netflix documentary about a cruise that broke down and everyone had a poop in bags. So, hey, by the way, bad news, guys, the bathroom's broken, so...

Just kidding. And we've run out of fish. Coming up next. Maybe, with all due respect to Sean Lowe, the greatest bachelor we have ever. had. I agree. America's Bachelor. Although a Bachelor, no more, his heart has been

taken. His heart has been won. Sorry, ladies. His beautiful daughter, Winnie. People Magazine's 47th and a half sexiest man. You beat him by 0.5. Ladies and gentlemen, Ben Higgins. Sorry about that.

You almost, you almost beat Wells. Wells has always been the more attractive. Guys, thank you for being here. It's been an amazing week. We have gotten a spin together. I wish the crews could really just be hanging out with the three of us all week because it's a bunch of nonsense and a lot of great golf. And we are going to talk a lot about our just golf game tonight

because what we found, our research shows. Yeah, you guys love golf. Love golf stories. Now, what I would love to start, let's get into the nitty-gritty, and we're going to come to you in a little bit because the most fun we have is taking questions from all of you and we'll get to that in a bit

but first give us a story a moment if you will and I'll give you a chance to wait we'll start with Wells something we don't know that happened on the show it could be while you were bartending

hosting or when you were about to get dumped by Jojo whatever thanks for bringing that up Chris is it too soon? Yeah you know in Argentina I got my heart I have so many funny stories from the show,

and it's unfortunate because all my stuff gets cut from the show. I'm hilarious, but you guys have no idea because it's left in the cutting room floor. But I think that my favorite story that people don't know about that I thought was going to be a storyline, but then, like, looking back, obviously it wasn't, was when we were filming Bachelorette, so you're traveling around with 25,

just agro dudes all around the world, right? You got Chad who's eating meat and on way too many steroids. A lot of protein. So much protein and someone moved his protein powder and that was a bad day. But what ended up happening is we started traveling around the world. We went to Nemicole in Pennsylvania. Then we went down to Uruguay. Then we went to Argentina and then I got dumped there.

And then I think they went somewhere else. But every time that we would go into the bathroom, we were sharing one bathroom for like 25 guys. And we'd go into the bathroom and there would be a log still in there. Every day. And we started calling this person the poop bandit. And we filmed an entire scene of us trying to figure out who the poop bandit was. I think it was Jordan Rogers.

I am almost 100% sure. Let's just go with that. But I think Chad started it. But then we kicked him off and then Jordan was like, the poop bandit, must live. Enjoy your desserts. Yes. I've had two poop jokes tonight so far.

I now regret that question altogether. You know what? It's not lost on me that I am sitting between two guys that both made out with Jojo. one got dumped by her the other broke up with her yeah whoa ben what were you thinking a great girl she's amazing

she's a great girl man my story was going to be not similar but I'll try to yeah something different let's try to move off the toilet so here's a crazy story about my time as the bachelor the week before he started filming my best friend in the world

me Chris Harrison Thank you No he gets married in Honduras And I go down there Go to this wedding They let me go I come back And I'm sick In multiple ways I'm sick

I lose 30 pounds When I'm the bachelor I get If you watch the season from start to finish You'll see it I ended the show at like 175 pounds And I'm not like a short person They had to keep

keep tailoring my suits down to me because they do that. And we have this guy on the show, Carrie Fetman, he's an amazing guy, and he just kept tailoring these suits down to me. I get on the flight home from the show, and my stomach just locks up on the flight. I go to the hospital. They send me to the hospital. I have a parasite in my gut.

I go two weeks of like almost like chemotype medication to get rid of this parasite that has eaten through my stomach lining. Still to this day, I have issues from this. Still to this day, if you watch the show from start to finish. So imagine being a software salesman from Denver, Colorado, working in a cubicle, becoming the bachelor with all the cameras, and being like, sick, not feeling good the whole time and still trying to go through this show. And the show kept saying you're stressed, you're anxious, you're tired, and I get why they were saying that.

I was all of those things, yes. But we find out later, I had a worm growing in my gut for three months. This is not the show I thought we were going to do tonight. Nobody knows that story. It's a good story, right? Yeah, it's a good story. By the look on her face, I'm not sure that's a good story.

By the way, I don't know if anybody knows this. Samantha just got engaged last night. Oh, my God, Samantha. Hold on. Breaking news. Let's see the Neil Lane ring. Breaking news, this is just in. I'm being told from... What's that?

Because of those stories, you are now the 56th sexiest man. You're not even on the list anymore. Dang it. The worm story. I will say, of hosting both shows for so many years, when we would shoot in the mansion, you would think that, Maybe the guys would be worse, but both shows were kind of the same.

We shot in the mansion, and they basically used the main bathroom, all of them. And when we were shooting the bachelor and it was all the bachelettes, it took a hazmat crew to go in that bathroom. When you had 20 women all getting ready in that one bathroom, my God, it was horrifying in there. The guys honestly weren't that bad. Well, on my season, there was a poop band. One of my favorite things about Paradise is, thank you, one person likes that show. That's kind of what it feels like now, doesn't it?

It's reflective of the ratings. We have 1.2 people. Thank you. We have tens of fans. Oh, it used to be good. So, too soon? I'm still employed by them. Relax.

So, rose ceremonies are the meanest things in the world. And especially when we film them in Mexico, it's so hot. We decide to film the show in their monsoon season. So it is, it's June, it is always raining. Don't forget crab season. And also crab season. Not the STD kind. That too.

I mean, maybe. I don't know. Things got weird in the fantasy suite. But it's so hot there, and all these girls put on all this makeup, because obviously they're going to be on TV and they want to look their best. And you do a roast ceremony. It takes, you remember, hours, right? You just stand there and you do all this stuff.

And I just remember, I'm the bartender, so I'm, like, looking, like, through the bar up into the thing. And all these girls' makeup, it's just melting off their face. and I remember thinking, this is so mean that they're on national TV and they're melting! By the way, since we're talking about row ceremonies, can we dispel some rumors? You were The Bachelor.

Can we talk about how a rose ceremony works because everybody wants to know because you're brilliant, but you can't remember 17 girls' names in a row. So how do they do it? are the names written on the roses do they tell you in your ear how do you do it's a good question and it's probably the most common question so every four people you kind of get to leave and so they'll give you a list of six you go back and you're like okay here's my order here's who I want

to pick and they say here's the order you're going to give it in or what order do you want to give it in here's your next six so you go back especially on night one you know nobody names like these are all strangers to you so you go back to this room you remember six people's names go back out say it and then you say i just need a break i just need a break and you leave again the show doesn't tell you do this if you want to name all of them on your own you could there's just no human in the world that would remember 20 people's names all in one night so you go back you remember them you go back out and then you step back again and you do it about four times until you get through the night. There's no names on your hand. There's no names on the roses.

It makes sense that you can't remember everybody's, but everybody's name. But we always felt, and they said, why did you do that? The reason was, we always felt there was this line we never wanted to cross. Even if Ben said, this is who we wanted to keep. And the reason we decide the order is, it's just TV stuff. You want to bounce from side to side. So you don't notice it, but to your eye, it looks better on TV when we're bouncing side to side. And so Ben would say, this is who I want to keep, and then we decide the order, the director a lot of times will decide the order depending on where they're lined up. And the reason we didn't ever put a bug in their ear or brighted on the roses or whatever, we always wanted that freedom of thought. We always wanted

Ben to have that freedom to say in the middle of a rose ceremony, what's your name? Yeah, or call out the wrong name, hopefully. But no, to have a change of heart and to say, you know what? That's not what I want to do. And we always felt if we were telling you Kelly A, Kelly B, Kelly C, a lot of Kelly's, you know, that you could change your mind. And so we just never crossed that line. I remember the second row ceremony standing up there and blanking because you're nervous. You know, you're not a trained professional. You're coming off of a cubicle job. You're nervous in front of these beautiful people. And I remember four in the morning. It's four in the morning. I blanked on names.

and I got lucky, but I remember... It got lucky. Yeah, I remember having this, like, anxiety inside of me standing up there. If you just say Lauren, if you say Lauren, you're probably going to do okay. I want Kelly and Lauren and... That's how he got engaged. Is there a Lauren? I believe there's a Lauren here.

You're the one. It's true. I mean, I was so nervous. I was thinking about rose ceremonies and, um, I was thinking about rose ceremonies and, um, I remember being in that moment of waiting to get a rose. And I remember figuring out if I was going to get a rose or I wasn't going to get a rose by what the cameras were doing. And I'll be like, man, no cameras being pointed at me. I'm screwed.

And then all of a sudden it would be like right on me like, yes, it's my time. Or it's like someone I didn't like so that they knew that I would be upset that they got the rose and I didn't. And it's a weird thing that you can see, like, the camera's pointing at you. I mean, like, this is my time. I get, I can ask the question, obviously, somebody, like, how scripted is it? I would say it was never scripted. I have no memories of being told, hey, this is what you're going to do and this is what you're going to say.

It was a lot of, let's talk this through. What do you want to do? Okay, here's probably the best way to do it. I love this person, Caitlin Bristow. I think one of the best bachelors of all time. She gave good TV. she was wild absolutely wild and she's one of my I just think the world of her but I was roommates here's a story I was roommates with Sean Booth who ended up you know getting engaged to Caitlin and it was a

very real and serious relationship so we're in San Antonio at like week four and it's two in the morning and our hotel door opens up and this cute little girl comes skipping in and it's Caitlin, who had snuck out of her room away from the producers, into our shared bedroom. And we're both. Production loved this, by the way. They had no clue. I was so excited. Sean was so excited.

And we're like, hey, Caitlin. And she just, like, hops into Sean's bed. And I'm laying in this cot at this time. We would rotate beds. Like, at one location, he would get the queen, like the main bed. I would get the side bed. this one I had the sidebed. And so it made sense.

And I thought we were all going to stay up in chat. Very quickly I realized I was not invited to this party. You weren't even the third wheel. I was like not. You were the fifth wheel. So here's how the night plays out. And I'll tell it quickly. Nobody knows she's there.

I realize I'm not invited. I go to the bathroom with a pillow and a blanket. And I lay on the floor in this bathroom. If you listen to her podcast, I share this story. She knows that I remember. very clearly and we they spend the night

or we all spend the night whatever you want to call it Jason This is a weird threesome story Worst threesome ever In the morning the production comes to wake us up and she's still in our room

she jumps on the floor and Sean takes his comforter and throws it off the bed and covers her up and they come in and they're like hey it's time to get up she's on the floor floor next to her bed. Then she goes back to her room. Nobody knows about this for a week and a half.

Nobody says a word. And then she tells her handler, I snuck into Ben and Sean's room. And they knew that I was not that important. And so they come to me and they say, hey, Ben, how are you feeling about all this? I'm awesome. Yeah, not great. I have a bearer sight. I don't think I belong here any longer. And so Caitlin and I have this beautiful conversation that reconnected us. But that's something that was never shown. That was a huge part of the story, especially my story, and I think the show's story, that I knew early on I had a lot of work to do to catch up to the person in the bed next to me. All I know is what I've been told.

And that's a half-truth is a whole lie. For almost a decade, the murder of an 18-year-old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved. Until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. I'm telling you, we know Quincy killed her. We know. A story that law enforcement used to convict six people and that got the citizen investigator on national TV. Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran. My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, producer, and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find.

I did not know her and I did not kill her, or rape or burn or any of that other stuff that y'all said. They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her. From Lava for Good, this is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame. America, y'all better work the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns. Listen to Graves County in the Bone Valley feed on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season

at free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Jonathan Goldstein, and on the new season of heavyweight, I help a centenarian mend a broken heart. How can a 101-year-old woman fall in love again? And I help a man atone for an armed, robbery he committed at 14 years old. And so I pointed the gun at him and said this isn't a joke.

And he got down. And I remember feeling kind of a surge of like, okay, this is power. Plus, my old friend Gregor and his brother tried to solve my problems through hypnotism. We could give you a whole brand new thing where you're like super charming all the time. Being more able to look to people in the eye. Not always hide behind a microphone. Listen to Heavyweight on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In early 1988, federal agents raced to track down the gang they suspect of importing millions of dollars worth of heroin into New York from Asia. We had 30 agents ready to go with shotguns and rifles and you name it. But what they find is not what they expected.

Basically, your stay-at-home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin. They go, is this your daughter? I said yes. They go, oh, you may not see her for like 25 years. Caught between a federal investigation and the violent gang who recruited them, the women must decide who they're willing to protect

and who they dare to betray. Once I saw the gun, how to take his hand and I saw the flash of light. Listen to the Chinatown Stang on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or anywhere you get your podcasts. It may look different, but Native culture is very alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. It was a huge honor to become a television writer because it does feel oddly, like, very traditional. It feels like Bob Dylan going electric.

that this is something we've been doing for hundreds of years. You carry with you a sense of purpose and confidence. That's Sierra Teller Ornales, who with Rutherford Falls became the first native showrunner in television history. On the podcast, Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we explore her story, along with other Native stories, such as the creation of the first Native Comic-Con or the importance of reservation basketball.

Every day, native people are striving to keep traditions alive while navigating the modern world, influencing and bringing our culture into the mainstream. Listen to Burn Sageburn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, host of the Psychology Podcast. Here's a clip from an upcoming conversation about exploring human potential. I was going to schools to try to teach kids these skills,

and I get eye rolling from teachers or I get students who would be like, it's easier to punch someone in the face. When you think about emotion regulation, like, you're not going to choose an adaptive strategy which is more effortful to use unless you think there's a good outcome as a result of it if it's going to be beneficial to you. Because it's easy to say, like, go blank yourself, right?

It's easy. It's easy to just drink the extra beer. It's easy to ignore, to suppress, seeing a colleague who's bothering you and just, like, walk the other way. Avoidance is easier. Ignoring is easier. Denials is easier.

drinking is easier, yelling, screaming is easy. Complex problem solving, meditating, you know, takes effort. Listen to the psychology podcast on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Shall we open it up to questions? I think so. This is our favorite part because what we really love to talk about is whatever y'all would like to talk about. I mean, as much as I want to talk about the poop band, it's. Yeah, please help us get away from that.

So there's a microphone in the back. If you have a question, jump in line. Hi, you're there. Give us your name and fire away. Hi, I'm Lori, not Lauren. I want to say hi to Ben and to Wells. I think Bachelor is a great show and I love it. So I won a contest to be here tonight.

Thank you. Very supportive. I love it, Girl Power. But I did not get. a meet and greet, so I'm begging. Is there any way I could get a picture with you guys? A fantasy suite with Ben?

Yes. Yes. Well, the show ends with Ben taking his shirt off just so you guys know. Well, I'm asking for just a picture, not anything else. Is that possible? We'll make sure. We'll make sure that happens by the end of night, yes. Yes. All right. Thank you.

Rough first question. Didn't give us a lot of room to go. Hello. Hello. Hi. My name's great. Grace. Hey, Grace.

So excited to be here. Everybody say Grace. You get it. Thank you. Okay. So I know you guys all have a lot of podcasts, hosted guests. I've listened to them. We love them.

If you could pick a dream guest to interview on a podcast, Bachelor or not, who would you pick? Ooh. I mean, mine has unfortunately passed away, but Anthony Bourdain is like my, he's my dude. You love his great memoir. I read it. Yeah, it's all the stuff about him. It's incredible. Like, I still watch no reservations, like weekly to go to bed.

So, like, he would always come to the top of my list. I just wish there was a moment I could meet him because I think he just was like a rock star. Yeah. Good answer. Good one. Great show, too. No one, everybody's tried. It's like often imitated, never equaled.

Everybody's tried to do a show like that. I'm going to go around the world and need nobody. does it like him. No one's a storyteller. And honestly, no one's a tortured soul like him, because that went into it. You could feel that through the show. It was brilliant. I would say, I'm a Texas boy. And so I am a diehard Willie fan. And I think just sitting down with Willie Nelson, not a big smoker, but on that night I would be. Yes. Because I think when in Rome, smoke weed with Willie, that would be top of my list. And then she, Jake in the corner.

You know, before I was on The Bachelor or Bachelor in Paradise I was a radio host for 12 years in Nashville. So I interviewed everybody. So I have a lot of like really cool stories of getting to meet my heroes. Willie wasn't one of them

unfortunately. But I did get to smoke weed with never mind. That's an example of why we don't do drugs Yes To be honest with you I've done this one and

I stick by it I've had my wife on my shows multiple times And she That's cheating, that's such a layup Yeah never mind I want to interview my wife It was Kid Rock, okay? It was at a karaoke bar, whatever

No but yeah Like having my wife on is very fun and like hearing I was there at the end of run at Modern Family and so I got to experience everyone and meet everyone. But hearing the old stories of like the beginning of that show is always very special. He's a good husband. You know what's bizarre is I was at ABC obviously for a long time. I met Wells's wife. Probably like 12 years before they met her before I did. And so yeah, so I was on the first time I think I was on the view and I'd taken my daughter. I have this amazing picture of my young daughter at the time. She's now 21. She was probably

like nine or ten at the time and a very young Sarah Highland on the set of the view with Barbara Walters. It's the I always, and like once a year I always send it to Sarah. Yeah. But the, you know, the question I get asked a lot about my wife is like, how did we meet? And it honestly, it was because of Twitter, because she's part of Bachelor Nation. And her and her mom used to like watch a show obsessively and so her mom liked me and weirdly enough I went on the after the final rose and we were talking about bad Chad the guy who ate a lot of protein and was on steroids and I said something to the effect of like I don't want to piggy him because I was referencing Lord of the Flies I was like I don't want to kind of gang up on him but I was like

but I don't think we should talk about him he's Voldemort like he who cannot be named And she tweeted out, I like this guy. I didn't know people from The Bachelor could read. And I was like, that's a really funny tweet. I like that. Also, those are both books for, like, teenagers. Thank you, Grace. What's your question?

Hi, I'm Jackie. My question is for Chris Harrison. If ABC called you up and said, we really want you to host our show again, and we'll give you whatever you want. I wanted to ask this for so long. Would you do it and what would your demands be? That bin in Wells would be with me.

Who should have been the host in the first place. But I digress. They should. They should have been the host. The answer is no, but for a very good reason. Look, it was an amazing love affair for a long time. And as someone who's now married for the second time, I think you are with people and people come into your life for a season, for a reason.

And that show was wonderful to me and my family, I think, for a season. And I think to go back would be to try to rekindle an old romance that's gone. That season in my life is gone. And so the answer would be no. For no bitter reasons, again, I adore the show. I will always have fondness and love in my heart for it. for the friendships I made, for the people in front of the camera, behind the camera. So many wonderful. I traveled the world.

You know, I had never really traveled much in my life the way I grew up. And I had, you know, no business being in Hollywood. But this show gave me the ability to travel the world and see every corner of it 10 times over. So a lot of blessings came from it. But to try to get back into that relationship, you know, I wouldn't be there for the right reasons. Thank you. Hey, but let's be clear, the best hosts in America, right? But also, how Wells isn't hosting Paradise is beyond me.

Same, same. Has there ever been a bigger layup in television history? Look at this guy. He's made for the beach. Exactly. Someone's got to get him drunk. I mean, the chest hair just carefully come in. out of the top of the shirt.

That's no accident, ladies. I'll tell a behind the scene story. There was a season after. About your chest here? Yes, and it is glorious. There was a season that you were gone, and we were trying to figure out who was going to host it,

and I was supposed to host the entire season, but then at the end, they brought in, like, David Spade and a bunch of people. But what was supposed to happen, it was supposed to be me and my wife hosting the show. that would have been great and it to me that was the easiest home run and we were and it like fell through like didn't work and I'm so bum because how fun would that have been to

get to work with your wife and then slowly just keep bringing people on from modern family like at O'Neill that's what Sophia Vergara that's Eric Stoastery yeah All I know is what I've been told, and that's a half-truth is a whole lie. For almost a decade, the murder of an 18-year-old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved, until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. I'm telling you, we know Quincy killed her. We know. A story that law enforcement used to convict six people. and that got the citizen investigator on national TV.

Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran. My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, producer, and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find. I did not know her and I did not kill her, or rape or burn or any of that other stuff that y'all said. They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it off.

her. They made me say that I pour gas on her. From Lava for Good, this is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame. America, y'all better work the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns. Listen to Graves County in the Bone Valley feed on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season at free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Jonathan Goldstein,

and on the new season of heavyweight, I help a centenarian mend a broken heart. How can a 101-year-old woman fall in love again? And I help a man atone for an armed robbery he committed at 14 years old. And so I pointed the gun at him and said this isn't a joke. And he got down. And I remember feeling kind of a surge of like, okay, this is power. Plus, my old friend Gregor and his brother tried to solve my problems through hypnotism.

We could give you a whole brand new thing where you're like super charming all the time. Being more able to look people in the eye. Not always hide behind a microphone. Listen to Heavyweight on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In early 1988, federal agents raced to track down the gang they suspect of importing millions of dollars worth of heroin into New York from Asia. We had 30 agents ready to go with shotguns and rifles and you name it. But what they find is not what they expected. Basically, your stay-at-home moms

were picking up these large amounts of heroin. They go, is this your daughter? I said yes. They go, oh, you may not see her for like 25 years. Caught between a federal investigation and the violent gang who recruited them, the women must decide who they're willing to protect and who they dare to betray.

Once I saw the gun, try to take his hand and I saw the flash of light. Listen to the Chinatown Stang on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or anywhere you get your podcasts. It may look different, but Native culture is very alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. It was a huge honor to become a television writer because it does feel oddly, like, very traditional. It feels like Bob Dylan going electric. that this is something we've been doing for hundreds of years, you carry with you a sense

of purpose and confidence. That's Sierra Taylor Ornellis, who with Rutherford Falls became the first native showrunner in television history. On the podcast, Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we explore her story, along with other Native stories, such as the creation of the first Native Comic-Con or the importance of reservation basketball. Every day, Native people are striving to keep traditions alive while navigating the modern world. Influencing and bringing our culture into the mainstream. Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, host of the psychology podcast. Here's a clip from an upcoming conversation about exploring human potential. I was going to schools to try to teach kids these skills, and I get eye rolling from teachers or I get students who would be like, it's easier to punch someone to the things. When you think about emotion regulation, like you're not going to choose an adaptive strategy which is more effortful to use unless you think there's a good outcome as a result of it if it's going to be beneficial to you. Because it's easy to say like go you, go blank yourself, right? It's easy. It's easy to just drink the extra beer. It's easy to ignore, to suppress,

seeing a colleague who's bothering you and just like walk the other way. Avoidance is easier. Ignoring is easier. Denial is easier. Drinking is easier. Yelling, screaming is easy. complex problem solving, meditating, you know, takes effort. Listen to the psychology podcast on the IHartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Samantha. Hey, Sam. I want your... You don't know her.

You can't call her Sam yet. You can't just go way back. Is it okay if I called you Sam? It's okay. Okay. I want your real, honest opinions on. Taylor, Frankie Paul as the next Bachelorette. We'll defer. We will kick

to Wells. As the guy who still works for Disney? I think it's going to be a really good season. I do think that, like, if you look at what Paradise was this last season, it was a season of change, and things needed to change up. I think we rested on our laurels for too long. And so I like the direction of where Paradise is going, and I like the idea of bringing in a really big star

to inject that show with a lot of star power. I'm interested to see the guys that come on the show. I think that's going to be fun to watch, and then in turn, I'm very excited to see the guys that she doesn't like come to Paradise, because I think that will be very fun. Yeah, I don't work for Disney, so I have nothing to lose. You know, I think the most interesting thing with this announcement of her being the

Bachelorette is the fan's response, and it is split, right? I mean, there are some things that we know about her past that we're like, hey, you're still deserving of love. I still want you to find love, but is this the best place to do it? Like, is the Bachelorette really going to fit this narrative? And how do we make it make sense that, like, you are authentic? authentically looking for your partner. We don't know that yet.

So I don't have a judgment on that, but I think it's my question, it's a lot of people's questions, is where do you go from here? And I think it's the biggest question for the show, and it has been for the last five years, is how do you move forward with a fan base with this announcement?

So I'm intrigued at how they make this something successful and sustainable. Because at this point, I don't know how you make it sustainable when you announce her as your Bachelorette, when for years you've had your relatable, common human coming in with the pursuit of love and love only. Now you have a celebrity with a platform and a following coming in. And I honestly think it could be a home run,

but it could also be a very, very bad season for the show following it. We will see. Thank you, Sam. I think it's a question, though. do you think it was a good move? Like, I mean, it's an exciting move. My wife is going to watch it, and she's never watched the show

because she's like, I'm intrigued to see the mess. But is it going to be something long-term as Bachelor Nation fans that you support? I think that's a big question for the fan base. You know, something that I think's interesting about it is you guys say it, and we say it on the show a lot, and it's like being there for the right reasons. And obviously, it's okay.

And like, obviously, she has a huge platform because she has another television show. So then I wonder if it's going to be a thing amongst the guys. I don't know if this is going to happen, but I can see it happening where guys are going to be like, you're just here because you want to be on another reality TV show with her. You're not here for the right reasons. I can see that being an issue already.

And I think that will be fun. TV to watch. Thanks, Sam. Thank you. Hi, I'm Pam. So I've always wanted to know why, on the first night, when everybody comes to the mansion, why is it that there's always a bunch of girls who say to each other, did you get any time with them? Did you get time with them?

Now, I guess you are shooting all night long. is it because the producers just pick and choose who they want to talk to the Bachelor or Bachelorette or these girls are just not brave enough to go and interrupt and get time? Good question. That part... The Italian Cistas like that one.

We are hanging out with them tonight. So that night is... It's not scripted, but it's very... because it has to be, because it's absolute mayhem. When we started the show with 20 women, then you got to 25, manageable, and we could even finish it by sunup. Then all of a sudden, we're like, let's go to 30, let's go to 35, and all of a sudden we had no, it was like, the sky's the limit.

Whoever showed up off the street, you're on the show. And so there were so many people, and it takes just logistically, production-wise, it takes a long time to set those things up and to have those moments. and to prep everybody and to shoot those. And so it just goes quickly. And then we got to pull Ben and you got to sit Ben down and have a post interview. And then you put them back in. And so it's just a long night and you just don't have enough time to talk to everybody,

which is a big bummer. When you get to bigger numbers, you get less time. And it's just math at that point. And even though we started going until 8, 9, 10 in the morning, the sun's up. You know, all of a sudden the rose ceremony, it's like, well, screw it. son's up we're just doing it um and so we just got to the point where you got to pull the plug and you got to move on and not everybody's going to have that moment sometimes you would do it with if he had even a brief good in if you had a good entrance and we knew ben might keep this girl like

that's enough she's going to go on we'll we'll figure it out week two um and so those nights are difficult because you do have to make some tough calls and those are it's more producers you really don't have the opportunity to just come in and steal them on your own. That's set up. And they'll tell you, okay, Wells, you're going to get Jojo, you're going to pull her by the fireside, you're going to sit over there, and that's when you go polar. There's not a lot of spontaneity that night. And I mean, I remember, too, there isn't downtime. And so it really is, like, action-packed, as Chris was saying, there's, it's not like I'm sitting out waiting for an hour in a room and nobody's getting to talk to me.

That night is just conversation after conversation after conversation as much as you can get in. And I do think it doesn't lend well for the shire person who's maybe more nervous because they won't get a chance because they haven't jumped on it early or put their name in the line. But he's completely right.

It doesn't feel, it didn't feel like to me like, hey, somebody was getting pushed aside. it was just some people don't get a chance and it's 10 in the morning but, and I don't know if this is rare or not, I know for a fact, I talk to every single person that came in off the limo in night one on my night.

I think if you watch it back, nobody would say I didn't get any time. Some bachelors are adamant about it. Like, you're, I mean, honestly, you're a good guy and so some bachelors are just better that going, I'm not going. She loves him. You love him.

It's like every, Every 15 minutes, she's just going to yell Juan Pablo. Yeah, no, you're right. Most bizarre heckler ever. The Juan Pablo heckler. This is Juan Pablo's niece and nephew. So it's a weird night. And honestly, it's the one night to me that felt the most produced because it has to be.

Definitely. I always relished the next. So back in the olden times, when I used to do the show and it was in black and white, and it was on film. So, first of all, we never had a day off. We would do night one, and we never had a dark day. We would finish it, I don't know, four, five, six in the morning, and the next date started at 10 a.m. So I remember I would go in and be like, all right, welcome to the mansion, move in.

We would do the move-in, shoot. Everyone's like, oh, jumping on the bed, popping champagne. And they had not slept at all. and I was like, okay, group date, and we would read out the names. Everybody was like, please, Jesus, please do not pick me, do not pick me. I do not want to go to Vegas today. I just want to go to bed. So finally, honestly, because of union rules, we had to start taking a dark day

and everybody would sleep the next day. Then the following day, I would say, okay, let's move into the mansion. And it got a lot better. But early days, we never had that break, and you would just roll right into it. But I was relished getting into the dates, because then it was a lot more genuine. And even if it was a group date, all of a sudden the Bachelor would start getting a lot more genuine time with the ladies. People ask me this. And I'm trying to think when he's talking of questions I could ask the hours. And it is. It is a crazy gig. You start at 7 a.m. with

interviews and you're not done back to your like hotel room alone until 1.32 a.m. in the morning. And you're getting like six hours to sleep at the most. And then you're waking up on camera again. And I'm a big introvert. So by the time I was done with this show, I was depleted. Like, everything inside of me was like, stop having some handler follow me around. Stop having this producer talk to me. Hey, everyone, feel bad for Ben for having 30 of the most beautiful women lusting after him. It was so tough.

So many Lawrence. So many Lawrence. It's been here, jumping back in. This is a perfect place for us to take a pause. I want to let you know, we have another cruise coming up. San Diego on December 6th. If you want to go, we want you to come. Grab tickets, check out cityexperiences.com. Again, that's city experiences.com. Follow the Ben and Ashley I, almost famous podcasts on IHartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.

The murder of an 18-year-old girl in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved for years, until a local housewife, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. America, y'all better work the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns. Listen to Graves County on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad-free, subscribe. to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts.

In early 1988, federal agents race to track down the gang they suspect of importing millions of dollars worth of heroin into New York from Asia. Had 30 agents ready to go with shotguns and rifles and you name it. Five, six white people. Pushed me in the car. Basically, your stay-at-home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin. All you got to do is receive the package. Don't have to open it, just accept it. She was very upset, crying.

Once I saw the gun, I tried to take his hand, and I saw the flash of light. Listen to the Chinatown Sting on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or anywhere you get your podcasts. Samihante, it's Anna Ortiz. And I'm Mark and Delicado. You might know us as Hilda and Justin. From Ugly Betty. Welcome to our new podcast, Viva Betty! Yay!

We're re-watching the series from start to finish and getting into all the fashions, the drama, and the behind-the-scenes moments that you've never heard before. But you were still bartending? I didn't know that. The bar back is like, is that you? And it's a commercial for Betty. And I was like, I quit.

I quit. Listen to Viva Betty on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. It may look different, but Native culture is alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. Somewhere along the way, it turned into this full-fledged award-winning comic shop. That's Dr. Lee Francis IV, who opened the first native comic bookshop. Explore his story along with many other native stories on the show, Burn Sage Burn Bridges.

Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, guys, it's Stephanie Beatriz. And Melissa Fumerro, and this is Myrne. more better. We are jumping right in and ready to hear from you. Your thoughts, your questions, your feelings about socks with sandals. And we're ready to share some possibly questionable advice and hot takes. God, that sucks so hard though. I'm so sorry. Can you out petty them? Can you match their pettiness for funsies? Yeah. All the things. Because aren't we all trying to get a little more better? Listen to more better on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your

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