The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Golden Advice with Kathy Swarts and Susan Noles

Episode Date: September 27, 2025

Move over Dear Abby, Susan Noles and Kathy Swarts are the advice givers now for all things love, dating, and life in your Part 2! The Golden Girls are answering YOUR tough questions - from sex toys, to long distance dating, to navigating a relationship with the other woman - they are covering it all!  Email us at: [e-mail] or call us at 844-4-I Do Pod (844-443-6763)Follow I Do, Part 2 on Instagram and TikTokSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Instead, check out Brown Ambition. Each week, I, your host, Mandy Money, gives you real talk, real advice. with a heavy dose of I feel uses, like on Fridays when I take your questions for the BAQA. Whether you're trying to invest for your future, navigate a toxic workplace, I got you. Listen to Brown Ambition on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. it's i do part two and it's some of your favorite fill-in hosts from the golden bachelor season one it's kathy swartz and susan noles and we're in san francisco with i heart for the jonas brothers concert and we're having the best time hanging out with the crew huh kathy yeah we are and on this path who knew on this podcast

we're always asking you to call and write in when you need advice so today we're going to be answering your questions oh boy here we go No, first one's from Allison and Omaha. I'm going on my first date since losing my husband five years ago. I haven't been on a date in over 30 years. What's something I should try to do on the date so that he gets to know me and I'm not just nervous? Drink heavily. No, this, you know, this is actually an easy question because Allison, I'm right there with you.

I'm just dating and my husband died six years ago. So here's my advice to you. You should ask him questions about himself because everybody loves to talk about themselves. And if you ask him something about himself, you know, his family, what he does, what he likes to do on a weekend, that's going to help you come up with other ideas.

And he'll ask you some questions. Hopefully he asks her some questions. But you know what? Don't be nervous, Allison. And, you know, it's only dating. You're not signing your life away yet. So go enjoy it. Have some fun.

Relax. And, you know, get to know a guy. You never know. You never know when the arrow is going to shoot. And for me, just take a big, deep, cleansing breath before you walk in and just do you. Just be you. Because you're what matters, not him. Okay?

So if you feel chemistry, just be yourself. And I think the conversation will flow. Oh, I really do. Yeah. I would add one more thing to that, Allison, if there's something special, you know, some special thing you like to do, hiking or kayaking or something, you know, bring up that, bring up something that's important to you and see if you can get a conversation started going that way.

That's easy to talk about. Yeah. Yeah. Don't go too deep. And let us know, Alison, how that date goes in Omaha and Nebraska. We want to hear. One thing I will say, do not say, what are you looking for? The worst question ever.

Ever. Well, unless she's looking for a glass of wine. and then wave the waiter over. But thank you for writing in, Alison. Let us know how you make a gal. We would love to hear. Okay, the second one is from Rachel in Miami, Florida. My marriage ended 10 years ago after my husband cheated on me.

I haven't been in a relationship since. And now I'm going through menopause. Do you recommend sex toys? I'm tired, but I haven't lost desire. Well, I'm just got, I'm going to have Susan handled this one. This one's for Susan. She's got about two suitcases full of them under her bed. Go for it.

But I do have a favorite, my love. I should take stock in this company. Really? The womanizer. No, absolutely pleasure yourself. There is nothing wrong with it. You're still alive. And I don't know about you, but for me, menopause, it kicked in.

Like, it was way more than I ever felt as far as the changes you mean that you went through. No, the desire for sex. And I didn't have anybody in my life during that time. So yes, by all. means. I guess that's two thumbs up for sex toys. I'd also say to you, nothing wrong with sex toys, but you know what? Maybe you'd like to look into finding a relationship with a guy too. You know, it's not one of the other, Rachel. It's not one of the other. No, it's both. Definitely both. So good luck to you and hope you find some great sex toys and hope you maybe find a good

relationship. The womanizer. Anyhow, okay, thank you, Rachel. Janet from Brentwood, California, my youngest kid just left for college and I'm officially an empty nester. I've been putting my dating life on the back burner till my kids were grown. How soon into dating someone should I bring them into my world with my kids? Whoa, that's a personal. Well, so not the first date. Well, not the first month. Her kids are older. So Janet, your kids are older and they're out of the house. So I think for you, it's a little bit different. I think when you have young children, there's very impressionable. I think in your case,

we don't know if you're a widow. We don't know if you're a divorce. We don't know what your kids think of their dad. All those things really matter. But my advice you would be, don't bring somebody in to meet your children unless it's somebody you think you might want to have a relationship with. Otherwise, your kids are going to go, here comes the next one.

Yes, exactly. Here comes the next one. And see how you feel about him. When it's getting to that point where you're in a commitment, relationship, if you will. Some people don't bring them home for six months, and I don't think that's fair for anybody.

I think you should meet one's family. Well, I agree, but again, her children are older and theoretically a little bit more responsible and a little bit more sophisticated and understand that their mom wants to date. There's something wrong with that. But I

would not be saying, you know, this week it's Jack, next week it's John. And by the way, I'll let you meet Tom in two weeks because that's not going to play well. But we wish you luck in the dating and don't get discouraged because it's not. Janet, can I ask a favor? Yeah. Not you, Susan.

I'm asking Janet. Here's my favor, Janet. Can I have your castoffs? Can you send them my way? You know, I'm not that picky. So, you know, send me your castoffs and who knows? We could have love budding in the air at any moment. All right.

The next one is from Kristen and she's from Paris, Texas. and I know right where Paris, Texas is, Kristen, because I've been through there. Okay, I've been seeing a guy for four months. He's a single dad, and I'm a single mom. Every time we're together, his ex-wife is calling or blowing up his cell phone. I haven't met her yet, but how do I approach him that it bothers me without making myself sound clingy? Four months, huh? And every time.

I want to know, does he complain about it? as well? Or is it just you? You're going to have to bite your tongue, sweetie. I'm not, uh-uh. What a shocker, Susan, you and I are going to disagree. Those of you who don't listen to us regularly. I don't think it would make her sound clingy by complaining. That's, I wouldn't use the word clingy. I think what she's really saying is it made my curse sound jealous. Yes, exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Here's what I want to know, Kristen. It's annoying.

well here's here's the thing it wouldn't be annoying to you Kathy it depends why if if she is calling because they have a child that has special needs if there's a reason um if she's blowing up his phone because you know do you have the number of a good plumber because my dishwasher just went out i'm i'd have a problem with that i think maybe she's blowing up his phone because she didn't want the divorce we don't know what i'm saying is i'd wait a few more months and if If this develops into a serious relationship for you and you think you see a future with this guy, then it's time to bring it out. But something Kathy and I do agree on is communication, conversation.

Yeah, I'm not sure I to have it yet, though. But she's just seeing a guy. She's not saying she's in a relationship for four months. She's seeing a guy. Yeah. So. And let me just say, Kristen, if every time you guys are together, his ex-wife is calling and or blowing up his cell phone.

one of you needs to go out and buy a lottery ticket because the odds of that happening every time you're together you're either together 24-7 or she has you know what she's got an apple tag on maybe it's happened more than once while they were together and it's getting on on Kristen's nerves that's what I think I'd tread lightly Kristen for a little bit longer and then slow approach to this one but have a conversation if it gets yeah I would absolutely do that thank you for sharing No, Kristen. And by the way, Paris, Texas is a great place. You've chosen a good town to live in.

Okay. Helen from Rutland, Virginia, writes, I've been divorced for a handful of years now and have decided I want something less conventional. The second time around, dating someone long distance seems appealing. What's one thing that no one anticipates, though, when they start doing that?

Well, I can tell you firsthand. It seems easy, but it's not. Some days are more difficult, but you get through that. As long as you have a plan for the next visit, that always helps. It is appealing because they're not underfoot 24-7. You know, you've been on your own for a while. I know I've been living by myself for a while. And when he is here for two weeks, I love every minute of it.

But it's like, oh, my God. And then he leaves when she calls. calls me. Clean this up. Do this. Do this. Shut the door. Here's what I think.

I don't, I have never dated someone long distance, but I can imagine that no one would anticipate that maybe one or the other of you form stronger feelings and you don't want to be long distance anymore. You say right now, Helen, that you'd like to be. dating long distance, it seems appealing, it's less conventional, it allows you to be in your lane by yourself sometimes, it allows you to be with him. But here's the thing. Once you're with him for a while, or he with you, you might change your mind or he might change his mind. And then here's the issue. You fall in love, he falls in love, you really down the road, you see yourselves

wanting to spend 24-7, oops, you're leaving Rutland, Virginia, or he's on. You're leaving Rutland, Virginia, or he's arriving on your doorstep. And you don't anticipate that. You're thinking it sounds good and it is good. It is. But it also depends on how far of a long distance. If he's in Europe, that's a hell of a plane ride. Yeah, I mean, I'm guessing, you know, she's thinking probably another state.

But I also would say one other thing, you said, what's one thing? Let me give you one other thing that I don't think people anticipate. When you're with someone all the time, it's it doesn't take long till you see that they leave their socks in the middle of the bedroom but when you see them on an occasional basis everybody's on their best behavior and so you may or may not get to know the real person until you spend extended amount of time together so so maybe though that's what she's walking though and that's there's nothing wrong with no there isn't and again helen there's a common theme here send me your cast off too

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on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. cause we have one from lindsay from newport beach california here we go my ex-husband and i are going through a long contentious divorce it's been over two years and i don't know when it will end we've both moved on he is in another relationship and i've been dating someone for six months my kids have no problem with their dad dating but are upset with me and treat my boyfriend terribly when he's around. What should I do? My ex is no help. What should you do? Well, first of all, I got to throw some humor in here. You know when the divorce, you know, when the contentious divorce is going to be over,

when the lawyers cannot rent one more dollars from either one of your hands. That's my answer. You know what, kids, I have to be honest with her, my kids struggle until recently, and I've been single now six years, until recently, my kids have struggled. with me, particularly my daughter, bringing a man into my life. Your kids, six months probably seems a long time to you. I'd wonder how old your kids are because that makes a difference, how old your kids are.

Also, do your kids live with you? Because they don't have a problem with their dad because I'm sure if he gets them every other weekend, he's not with that person. you know when she's with somebody and they live with her they're seeing him as she says they treat him awful right but she said but she said the kids have no problem with their dad dating right so you're right know he's dating but maybe it's not in their face and you know what maybe that's lindsay something to try maybe don't date get a babysitter don't bring him home go out you know not only that

depending on how old the children are you have a conversation with them too hey i'm alive there's nothing on with dating. I'm going to move on. So my parents were divorced when I was six, and that is not a conversation that I would have understood. That's why I say, six now. Well, we don't know how older children are. That's why I said. So, you know, if they're teenagers, let's just be, let's just call it what it is. Teenagers tend to be selfish and only think of themselves. So, you know, they want to ride to the skating rink. They don't want you out on a date. I mean, we don't have enough information here, Lindsay, but give it again, give it some Give it time. Don't push your kids. Just remember, it's been a contentious divorce for you,

but it's also been tough for them. They've lost their family union. I've noticed that you said my ex is no help. What do you expect him to help with? You want him to talk to your children maybe and say it's okay that mom dates? Like, I don't understand that part. That's probably what she's thinking that dad could say, hey, you know, you don't mind me dating. Leave mom alone. You know, you don't mind I'm dating Louise, your mother should be able to date Joe. It's just the first name I came to. Good luck, Lindsay. Divorce sucks.

It's hard. I'm sure you're, be kind to yourself too. Give it some time. Give it some time. Give yourself the grace of time. My boys, I've been divorced 18 years and my boys still don't want to meet anybody. That's a whole other question for a whole other podcast. It's called, you know, send them upstairs for the ketamine therapy.

All right. The next one is from David. In Manhattan, yeah. Okay. I'm retired and my wife passed away more than a decade ago. Since then, my only focus was raising our kids. I have built a lot of financial security for myself and my kids now that I'm dating again. How do I bring up finances?

Because it's important to me and I'm not going to do anything that would impact my kids negatively. Well, I don't blame me there, but, I mean, you're just dating. There's no reason for that conversation immediately. Well, let me just say, I think this is a tricky one. Yeah. And it's tricky because you have built financial security for yourself and your children. And I feel exactly the same way. My husband passed away, as I said, six years ago.

and the money I have, I'm financially secure. My husband and I worked hard for that income, and I want my kids to benefit from that when I go. So I don't think, David, that you have to bring it up right now. I think that... Only if you're getting serious moving in together or remarrying. But I think before you remarry, before you move in, you would have...

Just like if you... David, just as if you were dating for the first time, You know, you had no kids, you would talk about, do you want kids? Are we going to have a joint checking account? Who's going to pay the bills? How are we going to pay the bills? Who's going to do the laundry? You know, if and when it gets to that time with a potential mate, that's when you have those conversations. You don't, you don't say to her, hey, let's move in together and then have the conversation. It's called a pre-nup if you get married, right? Well, yeah. And then find a good lawyer who can break it.

David, good luck, but don't be real quick to bring that up because you'll turn somebody right off. And hopefully you'll find somebody that's comfortable financially themselves and that won't be a problem. Hold on. I just got a quick follow-up here. I feel like I'm an attorney. Quick follow-up. Quick follow-up question.

You'd be good, actually. I wanted to go to law school. Just couldn't get it together. Here's my question for you. if you are dating someone of means and you have means, whose means pay first? And by that, I mean, what do you mean? I mean, seriously.

Yeah. Like, think about it. If David from Manhattan finds a woman with means. It's the same as he has. Are we cutting it 50-50? Yeah, I guess so. I don't want to. Ah, the truth be told.

I'm an old-time princess. Oh. Oh, don't you? Dare, said princess. Emphasis on the old. Okay. We have a thing about the word princess, okay? You know what, be strong. All right. The next one is from Chelsea, from Phoenix, Arizona. My ex-husband cheated on me and started a relationship with the woman he had an affair with. They ended up getting married, and after seven years, she's now found out he cheated on her. She's trying to turn to me for sympathy. I feel bad.

But what do I do? She's the reason my marriage ended. Can I answer this question? Yeah, I'm going to you too. We'll go right ahead. This one to me, honestly, Susan, is so simple. I'm not going to say, what many women say is, once a cheater, always a cheater. No.

I'm not going to say that. I'm going to say, why would you want anything to do with a woman who theoretically in your words is the reason your marriage ended. So you know what? It's called busy signal. That's showing my age. If she calls, block her email, don't answer her text. And if she persists, say, you know, Louise, it's the name of the day. Louise, I'm really sorry. I guess you know how I felt now, but we're going to go our separate ways. I've built a new life and I suggest you do the same. Be nice, be firm, polite. It's over. Or. Or?

You'd be more like me. Oh, God. Susan's going to invite you over for tea. After seven years, I'm well over it. And I would feel bad and bring her, hug her, and just, and one of the things I could say, as you just did, that's exactly how I felt. Yeah. I know what you're feeling and I feel for you. And then the conversation's over. However, I can't fix it. And nor do I want to be your best friend.

That's right. We're saying the same thing. I'll hold her hand. No, I'm not going to ignore her and make her go away, busy signal. I'm going to say to her. Because it'll give me pleasure to hug her. See, this is the difference. This is the difference. Say, now, that's exactly how you feel right now is what I went through. However, it's been seven years and I'm over it.

So bring it in, let me give you a hug. But really? You're being like a little vindictive bitch there. But seven years, you're over it. You know what? I don't know because I never was cheated on. But Chelsea, I don't blame you if you're not over it. I think that's really hard.

It does feel bad, but what do I do? You do what makes what you're comfortable with, really. I mean, if you are looking to Susan and me for approval to tell her, you know, take a short trip off a long pier, that's, you don't need our permission, do it. If you want to be the hug-it-out Susan type, you don't need our permission to do that either. I myself would not answer the phone, block her calls. And if I saw in the grocery aisle, you know, in the peanut butter aisle, and she came up to me and said, let's have coffee. I'd really like to talk with you. I would say, Louise, you know what?

Now you know how I feel or how I felt seven years ago. I don't want to go back and relive what I had to go through when John had an affair with you. so I wish you all the best but I have to go pick up my turkey in the deli aisle now so or she can also say to her for the next one how would you feel when the person that he cheated on you with ends up seven years are you going to hug them I don't care what do you want me to do for you Susan don't ask a question that you either know the answer to or you don't want I would be nice and hold her hand okay well and you know what that's but you know what you do what you want to do, whatever it feels right to you. And let us know, Chelsea, personally, tripper.

What an ass. He's an... Oh, now it comes out. Oh, wait, what happened to the hugged out? Not her. Him. Kumbaya hugged out. I said him. I'm sure he's a lovely man. Mm-hmm. All right. Well, thanks everybody for writing in. Keep your questions coming. This podcast is all about you, the listeners. And if you're dealing with a difficult ex bouncing back after divorce, need some guidance, call us, or email us. All the info is in the show notes. Follow us on socials.

Make sure to rate and review the podcast. I do part two, an IHeart Radio podcast where falling in love is the main objective. and I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time, as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians, artists, and activists to bring you death and analysis from a unique Latino perspective.

The moment is a space for the conversations we've been having us, father and daughter, for years. Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos, on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi there. Josh Clark from the Stuff You Should Know podcast. If you've been thinking, man alive, I could go for some good true crime podcast episodes, then if we got good news for you. Stuff You Should Know just released a playlist of 12 of our best true crime episodes of all time. There's a shootout in broad daylight. People using axes in really terrible ways, disappearances, legendary heists, the whole nine yards. So check out the Stuff You Should Know true crime playlist on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The murder of an 18-year-old girl in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved for years

until a local housewife, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. America, y'all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns. Listen to Graves County on the Iheart Radio app. Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. And to binge the entire season, add free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of the on-purpose podcast. Today, I'm joined by Emma Watson. Emma Watson has apparently quit acting. Emma Watson has announced she's

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