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Welcome to Dirty Rush, The Truth About Sorority Life, with your host, me, Gia Judice, Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Fessler.
Hey guys, and welcome back to another episode of Dirty Rush. My name is Gia Judice, and today I'm speaking with two master's students here to spill what
they wish they knew before their freshman year rushing. So today I am joined by Liza. She is a master's
student right now, but in her undergrad, she was in a sorority. So today I am going to talk to her
about what her experience was like and what she wish she knew before rushing. Hey guys and welcome to
Dirty Rush. I'm Gia. Hi. How are you? Good. How are you? Good. I'm Laura and I'm Liza.
Oh, so nice to meet you guys. So you guys are master's students right now.
now about to graduate? Correct. We are going to Texas Christian University right now. We also got our
undergrad here as well. Oh, amazing. How has it been doing your master's program afterwards?
It's been really nice to kind of continue to grow in one space and continue to foster connections
within our community. I think that's been like super special to be able to stay put and just.
Yeah. Yeah. And I feel like TCU for both of us means like a lot to both of our families. We both have
family who went to TCU. So it's it's the best place ever. So it's been great. Oh, that's amazing. So what are you
guys doing afterwards? What are you guys doing with your master's? So I, we both graduate on Saturday and I'll
graduate with my master's in education. Amazing. And I just accepted a job and I'll be teaching first grade
in the fall. Congratulations. Thank you. And I am getting my degree in speech language pathology. So my
cousins doing that. That's amazing. Yeah. I love it. It's been an absolute joy in such a gift
to be able to pursue this field. But I'll be working in a pediatric private clinic. Oh,
that's amazing. So you'll have like a real one-on-one time. That's incredible. And you're going to
deal with students, which is amazing. A lot of my friends are teachers and they absolutely love it.
And they're teaching like younger students as well. So they enjoy it a lot. Good. Yeah.
So what was your sorority involvement?
through your master's program. Were you guys involved at all or was it mainly just in your undergrad?
I would say mainly in undergrad for me. I have stayed sort of connected with like my sorority family.
I'm very close with my little and she's still still nearby. But I would say my like more involvement
in undergrad for sure. I would say the same. I am really close with my family and or my my,
Theta family. I was a Theta. And I am, since I'm still in the area, I've tried to maintain those
relationships. And so I have somehow managed to go to every single bid day since I was at TCU.
Oh, that's so cute. All of the big littles. And we have like tradition where we go to Joe Tees. We all got
tattoos together last year. Like we are very curse and they are some of my biggest blessings.
from college. So it's been fun to kind of be the older sister and the one that everybody comes to
advice for. No, definitely. I mean, that's crazy. Your family must be huge then if you're still there
and just to watch it all grow. That's crazy. Yeah, we have a very big family. I've rushed twins.
I have triplets actually. I have three littles and then they all, it's like a whole ordeal.
But our family is huge.
But now I rushed as a sophomore.
And so all of my littles rushed as sophomores and their littles rushed as sophomore.
So it's like we're all kind of graduating at the same time.
So our family keeps dwindling down.
But, you know, we're still alive.
We're not dead yet.
So you said you were a theta.
What's already where you in?
I was a Gamafi beta.
Okay.
Amazing.
So we're going to think back to the start. What was your perception of Rush before going into it?
Oh my gosh. Rush was like the scariest thing in the world. Like especially being in Texas,
there's a lot or just like in the South per se. There's a lot of pressure to like join a sorority and be in a
top house or you know, whatever you want to call it. So going into Rush was probably like the most
nervous I've been in my entire life and I've had a lot of anxiety for different reasons. So
it's just like an unantiquated amount of pressure on like girls coming in. Yeah. And to rush.
I would agree. I rushed my freshman year, which was the fall of 2020. So it was completely virtual.
So that definitely was weird and played a part into like my nerves and excitement towards it.
but I was definitely still nervous to a degree.
You know, I just wanted to meet people fast and, like, create connections fast, being so far from home.
I'm originally from Long Island.
Okay.
So I just wanted to, like, find a good group that I had, you know, at home.
No, definitely.
Did you guys always want to rush going into college?
If not, what made you decide to rush?
I knew I wanted to rush going into college.
Again, that's just something like growing up in Texas, that's kind of just like a part of the entire college process for a lot of people is going through recruitment.
So I knew that that was something I wanted to do.
But I did.
I had a gap year in between graduating from high school for medical reasons and then transferred.
Long story short, I rushed as a sophomore, but was two years older than the school.
girls in my pledge class. So it was just a very different experience, I would say. Yeah. Did you feel like
you were more mature than them or maybe a little behind, like a little behind or like how did
that make you feel? I and I would say like both like I felt again kind of like the older sister
to the girls in my pledge class. But then like then I had the girls two PCs above me who are like
some of my closer friends that I was able to meet prior to going through rush.
And when they graduated, it was really hard because I was like, well, these are the girls
that I have associated Theta with and my time at TCU with and they're my best friends.
And now what do I do?
And, you know, Laura and I are lucky enough, like, we can both testify to the fact that, like,
sorority life isn't everything.
And, like, during college, we were in a house where every single one of the roommates was
in a different sorority.
And I feel like that's so common.
Yeah.
So common.
But I feel like what you might see online is not that.
Like you might be fed with my God, my best friends are my sorority sisters.
I want to live in the house.
I want to like be super involved.
And while that might be some people's experience, like you just said, I feel like more
common to have like my people were not in my sorority.
And that's okay.
Like my people were people I met, you know.
through other ways.
And so I just think, while it might seem like it's end all be all,
it's kind of something like important to know that like us on the end of it now,
on the other side of it, you actually can meet so many people, so many other ways.
But because everybody's going, everybody's going through it,
you feel like you kind of have to like do that and find.
And participate in that for sure.
Yeah.
So what advice do you wish?
someone told you before rush.
That's not everything.
I would say like, it's not that serious either.
Yeah.
I feel like people or people I spoke to try like kind of made me even more scared of like,
oh my gosh, this is so intimidating.
Like, you know, these girls are only a few years older than you.
Like there's not that big of an age difference.
100%.
And the cheesy saying of like, just be yourself.
is so annoying to hear all the time. But seriously, I mean, why would you want to be anyone but
yourself? Like you want to be, you know, authentic and find people who are going to match that.
So it's not that serious. It's not that deep. Just take a chill pill and like it will all be.
Okay. Yeah. No, I completely agree. I feel like even when I was a freshman rushing, I would look at the seniors
like they were doing it all. Right. Right. And that they were such a, you know, someone
to look up to. And even just looking at the president of my sorority who, when I was rushing,
you know, I wanted to be, I really fell in love with Zeta. And then I ended up, you know,
getting into Zeta, which was great. But I remember looking at her and I thought she was so pretty.
And it just looked like she had it all together. And just during the rush process, everything was so
perfect. But then you realize, like you said, they really are not that much older than you. And it's
not that serious. And then once joining the sorority, yes,
I want to say freshman year was probably the most fun I had. And it doesn't, you know, your sophomore
year getting into your sorority after bid day. I want to say that was the most fun I had. And then
it all just is like any other thing, you know? I mean, yes, you get close with your friends, but then
you meet girls and so many other different sororities. You're having socials. You're meeting other guys
in fraternities, you're meeting the entire Greek life where then you make friends with everybody
else as well. And you realize, okay, yeah, maybe I didn't have to be in a sorority, but this definitely
helped open doors to meeting people. Totally. Like, I wouldn't have met some of the people that
I know and out love if I didn't rush. So it does, you know, it is beneficial and it is helpful
being like, you know, your first few weeks in a new place.
But you were saying.
Yeah, I think there's also something to be said about, like, I think any college that you go
to, there's this, like, predetermined set of, like, houses and regards of rank.
And I think that's, like, a complete fallacy because, like, you're going to end up in the
house that, like, is suited for you.
And that should be, like, that's your number one.
Right.
And so, like, I think that was, like, super important to me going in recognizing that of just, like, your goal shouldn't be to get in the top house.
Your goal should be to get in the house that, like, suits you best where people, like, like, love you for who you are and just, like, want the best for you.
Um, so I feel like that is super important to kind of, like, take into your rush experience.
Like block out the noise.
Yeah.
Like you're going to end up where you're supposed to end up at the end of like at the end of the
like at the end of the day.
A hundred percent.
Like going through rush like I was not talking with other girls really about like what
houses they were getting because I was just like that's just going to like.
It's going to alter the experience a little bit 100%.
And they always used to say that during rush too.
Don't talk about the houses outside of rush.
Make this year.
Make this your experience.
You know, be in your own thoughts because it is it is true.
And I know it's hard. It's like when you also have your group of friends, when you're going into college, especially meeting in the dorms or meeting anywhere else. It's very, you know, it's hard because you have this, a lot of the times you go into college freshman year, you're running around the dorms, knocking on the doors and just meeting people. You get this huge group of friends that by the time you're a senior, it becomes to be this small. You know, you have this huge group of friends when you first
get into college thinking that this is the best thing in the world and you all obviously want to
rush the same sorority. And then you rush and you all end up in different places. And the people who
you really are supposed to stay close with, you will. And then it just trickles out from there.
Right. Like everything works itself out. Yeah. Definitely. What shocked you guys the most about
the rush process? Oh, gosh.
I feel like being on the opposite end of rush after going through recruitment, it was shocking
to recognize that like girls who are already in a sorority and who are recruiting you are 10
times more nervous than you could, than a P&M or potential new member could ever imagine.
Like the pressure is just as high as on the other end.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I do remember that as well.
Also, like, girls remember you.
Like, I wore a pair of greens are jeans and I was known as the green pant girl for the remainder across campus, which was like kind of wild.
But I'd literally be greeted out the door and they'd be like, oh, my God, green pant girl.
And I was like, okay, I guess that's like what I'm going to be known for here.
But like, yeah, you're not just like a, like, people will remember you.
So like, I remember being surprised about like how much like on the opposite end of it,
like how much work goes into it.
You know, like work week and recruitment week.
Like those are some long days.
And like Liza just said, like there is a lot of pressure on the recruiter because they're
driving the conversation, you know, 100%.
A sophomore going through recruitment.
Like being like, oh my gosh, I have to remember all these little things about this girl.
I want to make sure that like she feels good and that like the conversation is flowing and yeah.
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are during rush.
Oh, I'm trying to think.
I mean, green pant girl.
I mean, I feel like that would catch me off guard.
I would be like, is this a compliment or?
Right.
I think at that point, especially because I was like two years older than all the girls I was
rushing with, I was like, I am the age of the girls who are rushing me.
So I was just kind of like, okay, like, if green pants is the way that you're going to
remember me, like by all means that, yeah, sure.
Yeah.
I can't think of anything.
putting like I mean I do remember I had a roommate at the time who wasn't a different sorority and
you know they had asked me like so you live with so and so and I was kind of like this is completely
like unallowable and I would say I left that house just kind of feeling like do you actually
value me as a potential new member or there's a connection is it because I have a connection to
to someone that you like invited me back to your house.
Yeah, definitely.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Did you guys get the house you wanted?
If not, did you guys come around to realizing that this was the house for you and
this was the place for you?
I did.
Yeah.
My older sister went to TCU as well and she was also at Game of I.
So going through recruitment, I kind of tried to remove like her experience and what she told
me and KC was all about, which was all positive and good stuff. And so I kind of just wanted to
also get that same experience. And I was like, if I end up getting, you know, the house that she was in
great. And if I don't also great, and it just ended up being that way that I did. And I was really happy
with it. I mean, like my little, it was, is like one of my best friends. And we always say that like,
we, if we never both rushed gamut five, we would have not known each other. And so. I,
So I didn't end up getting the house that I prepped, which in retrospect was the biggest
blessing imaginable.
My aunt was a TCU Theta and all of my friends when I transferred to TCU prior to rushing
were Theta's as well.
And so going through recruitment the entire time, I was like, obviously I want to be a
TCU Theta.
Like, you know.
And but then I went through the process.
got to the end and was just kind of like I really want to make this my own experience
and not be like influenced by the friendships that I have in other sororities or by the connection
I have to Theta being like being that my aunt was a TCU Theta.
And I didn't end up getting the house that I preft.
And then obviously like I said, that was like such a huge blessing because
like I was able to continue to, not that I wouldn't have been able to continue fostering these
friendships, but it was like we just had one more thing that like connected us all together.
And then again, like my Theta family is super important to me.
Like my littles will be like bridesmaids in my wedding.
And so it's just like I didn't end up getting what I wanted, but in the end, I couldn't
ask for anything else. And maybe you were saying like, okay, maybe I don't want to go theta because my
everyone else was there and I want to do something different. But then it's funny that, you know,
everything happens for a reason. So you ended up there because that's where you were supposed to
end up. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. And now I get to share that with my aunt and my cousin, which is super
fun. And so there's definitely a beauty in that story. Yeah. Would you guys say what sorority you're in
matters all throughout college or just freshman year.
I wouldn't even say it all.
Yeah.
I think like TCU is a smaller campus.
And so being in a sorority, like, again, isn't the end-all be all.
I think that should be like the takeaway for anybody going through rush,
regardless of where you're going to school.
Yeah.
But at TCU, you have such a unique experience to get to know so many people that like being
in a sorority or not being in a sorority doesn't really make that big of a difference. And I also
think it's like what you make of it. Like you have the choice. Like you get to make the decision
whether or not you are going to like make friends outside of your sorority. So I feel like maybe
it feels more important when you're a freshman to be. Right. And like chatter and people telling
you, you know, like. I think it feels like a bigger deal than it is. And
then once you're actually in the sorority, you realize that it doesn't matter. I mean, sure,
maybe, but also being a female, we could really go anywhere and do anything when it comes to
socials and getting into frat parties, X, Y, and Z. Maybe you can't just go to the mixer from
10 to 1030 when the sororities are there with the frat, but you're able to go at 11. So there's just
little things, but maybe, I think it is a good starter to,
meet people, but then once you're in it, you really have free range to do anything you want.
Yeah, I would agree.
Like, it's a good starting point.
Yeah.
And I think TCU does a good job of encouraging students to like look beyond their like.
And beyond great.
You're going to be like so willing to meet as many people as you can as a freshman in
college or, you know, whenever you get to call it.
But that if you don't happen to meet like your best friend.
in your story, you're going to meet that person some way, somehow.
Like, there's so many friends at TCU that I have from like knowing this person and they've
introduced me to this person and this person knows, you know what I mean?
Like there's so many ways that you can meet people.
So I think, yes, it is a good starting point.
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Wait a minute, Dakota.
How bad did it get?
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She moved in for two weeks, lasted for five.
She left nail clippings in the bathtub, candy stuck to the furniture, and then she pressed
her ear against the bedroom door and burst in screaming.
She did not burst in while they were.
She did.
They kicked her out and paid for her hotel, and they thought, it's finally over.
Days later, she called her son-in-law at work, claiming that his partner had been in some
kind of freak accident and had been rushed to the hospital in an ambulance.
He called every hospital in the city, and his partner was making coffee the entire time.
She faked a medical emergency just to test whether or not he loved her son?
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When that didn't work, she walked into the son-in-law's police station and filed a kidnapping report against him.
She filed a kidnapping report against him in his own police station.
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Did your sorority have any traditions or rituals that shocked you?
We have like at the end of every semester, we have Theta Splash, which is like a big,
essentially pool party, which is super fun.
I feel like at this point, almost every sorority or fraternity has adapted some form of that.
Yeah.
So maybe that's not a big tradition.
We do a senior tradition during recruitment.
that is super fun.
And I feel like when you go through Rush,
there's like little traditions of like songs that you sing
or little acts that you put on or whatever,
at least Theta had that.
Which like going through as a P&M was super engaging and fun.
And it kind of just like when everybody else is like being goofy,
you can kind of just like let your guard down.
But yeah, I feel like we didn't have any.
Like the bigger traditions were done during initiation, which, you know, every sorority is different
with that.
Right.
What was your initiation process like?
It was very tame.
Okay.
I feel like a lot of the times you hear about like crazy things that happen.
So there was no, like sitting on a dryer?
Oh, no, no.
TCU and like Greek life in general at TCU is very anti-like hazing.
everything is very, like, on the priority end.
Like, I, yes.
That's not for the, yeah.
Yeah.
But it was literally, I think like the worst thing was maybe that I was blindfolded
going up and down the stairs because they didn't want to show us the different rooms
that we were being taken into.
Like, and.
But it's all harmless.
Yeah, it was like you were blindfolded because you weren't allowed to see the upstairs
of the house until you were initiated.
Yeah.
So we're in the upstairs of the house.
We just couldn't see it because we weren't initiated.
Yeah.
Like we were never allowed to cross the boundary to go upstairs.
Like we had to stay down.
Like I was on Zoom, so we didn't have it.
Yeah.
I was all in person.
And I was wearing a mask, which was horrific.
Yeah.
I mean, and when I was recruiting my sophomore year, we just stayed in like the main room.
We didn't like, we don't go other places in the house.
We stay like downstairs.
There's like one room that's coded.
and all white curtains and like it gets really hot in there.
And I think my or someone passed out.
Actually, yes, one of my really good friends passed out.
She was right next to me.
Oh my gosh.
Because it just got too hot.
I think that's like the craziest thing that happened.
Yeah.
Unfortunately, recruitment here is during literally the worst month of the entire year.
It is like, oh my gosh.
It's so hot here.
What did you miss most about sorority life as you continued your schooling in the same place
you were in a sorority in?
Oh, that's a good question.
I would say like still being here in Fort Worth and like watching the younger girls in Gamify like get to experience all the things that I want to experience.
Like I just went to I don't even know.
What is Aaron to me?
Like my grand little.
She's your G.
I'm like the worst of that.
Yeah.
I went to her 21st and like there was some gamifis there.
But there was also like just other friends of hers there.
And I am such a nostalgic person and like Liza can attest to that.
but I'm just like, like, I've loved college.
I had a great experience.
So watching other people get to experience that, like, makes me so, like, happy.
Yeah, I mean, it is.
You're like, you're watching them, like, do what you were doing.
Yeah.
It sounds like I could get emotional about it, but, like, I literally could.
I, yeah, watching them get to experience that for the first time and, like, hearing their stories.
And I'm like, yep, yep, I totally get that.
Or like, oh, my God.
This is how we did it, you know?
So I would say for me, like, because I was older than the girls at my PC,
I miss, like, that kind of mentoring aspect or just being, like, somebody that people, like,
came to.
And I, like, wasn't huge on going to all the social events and things.
And looking back, I wish I had taken advantage of that.
But, and I would say similar to Laura, like, it's really, it's fun seeing.
Like the, you know, the sorority like change, shape and welcome new members and, um, and just like
see things to like, I don't know, like just watching like relate to them.
Yeah.
Like finally get to relate to them.
Yeah.
And maybe, you know, be like, oh my God, like that's how y'all did it.
Like this is how we did it.
That's so funny.
Or like we have a friend Lauren who works for I heart and she, her little sisters.
and her cousin just went through Rush.
And it was, like, fun to watch them go through it.
And, you know, I wrote one of their rec letters and, like,
chatting with them about, like, how things are gone.
Like, it was just very nostalgic is a good way to put it.
Yeah.
Well, thank you guys so much for coming on Dirty Rush.
And congrats on graduating.
This was such a fun episode.
Thank you.
And good luck with all your, you know, your career and everything that's coming after this.
Oh, my God.
Thank you so much.
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