The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Gramma's Nightgown is not the Way to Go…but do we have to dress SEXY when we SLEEP?!?!?! COME ON!

Episode Date: April 12, 2025

Are pajamas the killer when it comes to a good sex life? Thelma and Louise are talking with relationship expert Dr. Channa Bromley about problematic pajamas!Plus, let’s talk about our bodies, an...d let’s get real! And it’s ok to want sex and make it a priority…we’ll tell you why!!Email us at: IDOPOD@iheartradio.com or call us at 844-4-I Do Pod (844-443-6763)Follow I Do, Part 2 on Instagram and TikTokSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
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Starting point is 00:02:58 It's I do part two, and we're your favorite festies, Thelma and Louise. Today, we're going to, quote, jump into bed and talk about all the things that come with sex and chapter two dating. It can be scary and intimidating, but oh, so fun to get intimate after being with one partner for so long. So today, we're joined by relationship coach, Dr. Shanna Bromley. to talk all about it. Hi, Dr. Shanna. We are so excited to talk to you today, like have been anticipating this all afternoon.
Starting point is 00:03:36 So thank you for meeting with us. First of all, you're so pretty. I would think, like, everybody is, like, knocking down your door to date you. I'd want to have sex with you. You guys are sweet. I think gorgeous, too. So, Dr. Shanna, you recently contributed to an article titled,
Starting point is 00:03:54 Our Pajamas Ruining Your Sex Life, and absolutely phenomenal title, the way. And a question for you, what did you mean by that? So your bedtime routine is so much more than just a habit. It is a reflection of how you see yourself. And if you stop treating yourself, somebody worth desiring, then that energy just seeps into everything. It's so much more than just how your partner sees you. It's how you feel when you look in the mirror when you're going to bed. And let me ask you guys, what do you wear to bed these days? Louise, why don't you start because you have a very specific outfit.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Okay. So I thought a lot about this when I read your article because my experience with my husband first and then different guys I've dated in the nine years that I've been divorced was, you know, I think because when I go out for work or I go out to dinner, like I'm very put together, right? Like I have, you know, the blow drys, the makeup, kind of like this like glamorous affect that I found that when I came home and put on the more soft kind of thumb away that my husband or my boyfriends would be like all over me. For example, when I was married,
Starting point is 00:05:11 I used to wear now granted I hadn't yet had menopause. I was cold at night. Now it's a whole different ballgame. And I would wear these like thermal waffle pajamas that were like Cindy Luz, like the Gritch. Okay. I swear to God, when I had those on, he was ripping them off of me. And I think he felt I was maybe more manageable, more adorable, maybe it was more of a dominant, submissive thing. I don't know. He loved it. Another boyfriend I had loved like the little booty shorts and like nothing on top, whatever. Okay, fine. But I was always worried about if there was like a fire or an earthquake and what would I do, right? And then most recently I had a boyfriend. So I somehow stumbled upon
Starting point is 00:05:53 these like, Thelma knows, because we've shared many a bed on trips together, these like very unshapely, loose, thin, cotton nighties that go to my knee. In pastel colors, they're probably from Gap or the Navy. I think I bought 20 of them. Not hot. I just need to clarify, not hot. Not hot, but so comfortable, so adorable. I don't sleep with panties, so maybe they ride up in the night, don't know, but like, Robbie loved them. You know what I'm saying? He thought they were absolutely adorable. So I am not sleeping in sexy, tight, constricting things. What about you, Louise? So, well, it depends if I have a boyfriend or if I don't have a boyfriend, although I actually really agree with your article that you set the tone. I always kind of joke
Starting point is 00:06:40 around if you're not attracted to yourself or looking at yourself like you're attractive, why would you think that somebody else would find you attractive? So I do subscribe to that. I can really speak to my last long relationship post my husband, and it was about four years. And I slept, every time we were together, I slept naked every night, which was very unique for me, because similar to Louise, I do worry. Like, if a burglar breaks in or you have to leave in the middle of the night or something, like, it really, you're really on the defensive. but as soon as I got over that
Starting point is 00:07:19 he was super comfortable with his body and I historically have not been but he made me feel so comfortable and I also think that when I got in bed and I was naked like I don't know it did it felt more like we were both kind of
Starting point is 00:07:35 coming to the bedroom no pun intended but that anything could happen and I think especially in the morning like I think in the morning waking up naked it was like a natural way to kind of greet each other in the morning. Well, it also promotes oxytocin as well, skin touching on skin for women, especially.
Starting point is 00:07:56 It promotes bonding and that feeling of closeness. I totally agree. But you know what's interesting to what you said, Thelma, is I think it leads also to the point of like everybody at different points in their life have preferred times of day that they like to be intimate. So, for example, morning and me, we're not, that's not my, I am that four o'clock afternoon person where I'm way more relaxed, the day is done prior to going out, prior to perhaps having a big meal, too many cocktails, whatever.
Starting point is 00:08:31 So that's my golden hour. Do you think timing has anything to do also with it? I think timing's important, but I think it's like the biggest relationship killer, it's not conflict, like most people think. It's actually comfort, which leads to complacency. And I think the difference with what you were sharing, how in the daytime, you'd have to blow out and you'd be all done together, you are still putting a lot of intention into yourself. If you are wearing that unfattering smurf outfit that you describe all the time, now she's going to call me smart. Yeah. I don't know that that would have been appealing to your partners in the evening. But I think because you have the contrast and you had that
Starting point is 00:09:11 period of time where, you know, you are this put-together version and then they get to see this variety of you and where you are softer. So, but I think it really just comes down to your nightwear is an energy shift. It's really not just an outfit. And it's what's making you shift into the version of you that feels essential and that feels sexual and it feels really good about yourself. Well, I've said on a previous podcast that I, always wear matching bra and underwear. And it really, to me, is everything because I think that
Starting point is 00:09:47 it just makes me start my day. And when I get dressed, I definitely feel put together, even though the majority of the time these days, no one is seeing that. It definitely makes me feel different. And I think gives me more confidence and feel sexier, so to speak. Yeah. Are you both in relationships dating? What's your status is right now? We're with each other, pretty much like a lot. Just kidding. Well, tell them what your ex-husband. Tell them what your ex-husband said this week about us. Last night, we had dinner with my ex-husband, and he was laughing.
Starting point is 00:10:19 He's like, so are you two dating? I feel like you've been together like four nights this week. It was like our fourth dinner, our fourth dinner together this week. But we're living parallel lives and we're so aligned on so many things, but we have such a difference of opinions on a lot of things, which are, you know, kind of relevant to your question, that it's actually always very interesting, and it helps each other look through different lenses as we're navigating kind of chapter two and what we're looking for, which is, I mean, we're actively dating. And, you know, I can say most recently I had a
Starting point is 00:10:54 very interesting situation this past weekend where I'd gone on a couple dates with this one guy to dinners, which felt really safe for me. So I guess what I've learned about myself is my mind moves fast, but my body moves slow. So I'm the kind of, I think the phrase is sapiosexual. Like, I need to feel an emotional connection and safety before I can cross the line to the physical part. Other people, like, I have a friend who got divorced, and I think she was like on her back and knees within 24 hours, seven days a week.
Starting point is 00:11:29 I mean, it's like everybody's different. Zero judgment. I sometimes wish I was a little bit easier and looser, but it takes me three quarters of a bottle of wine and, you know, kind of a different tool set. But what happened was, was we'd gone out a few times and he said to me, I'd love to just, you know, hang out and order in. And I immediately started to panic immediately. And I called up Belma and we had a conversation and I was like, I'm going to have a very direct conversation and basically say, I know you didn't mean anything by it, but this is who I am, right? Like it takes me a minute to get to that
Starting point is 00:12:05 party. I don't even know if I'm getting to that party, but hope that works for you. And if it doesn't, whatever. He was so classy. He was like so cool about it. He, and then after the conversation I felt comfortable, I was like, yeah, you could totally come over. Came over. We had the best night. We ordered in. We had cocktails. It was so great, so fun. And I was comfortable because I had basically called out the elephant in my room. Yeah. And he had accepted it. Did you think about what you were going to wear that night when he was coming over to bed. Great question. That's a great question. So it's very interesting when you're hosting at your house. Like, for example, I'm wearing a sweater, but I have my pajama bottoms and my slippers on underneath, which you can't see because I'm home. The
Starting point is 00:12:46 minute I get home, the bra comes off and full disclosure, I don't wear underwear. So that's just me and her have a whole different thing. Do not wear underwear. And so I was like, okay, what am I going to wear tight jeans? That looks ridiculous. I can't really wear shoes. I'm in my own house. So I wore workout leggings. And then I wore like a cashmere big off the shoulder v-necked sweater. And then I had on like just cute socks. And it was, he walked in and he's like, oh my God, I love your outfit. You look so adorable. And I think again, it was so different than like the leather. It just was a different side of me. And it was perfect. It was super comfortable. But you put a lot of intention into actually thinking about what you were going to wear.
Starting point is 00:13:28 you were basically discerning, no, this doesn't work, this doesn't work, this works. So it was still an energy shift that you were choosing in that moment. Yes, exactly. Shanna, what role do you think alcohol plays positively or negatively when it comes to sex, initiating sex, the bedroom, all of that? I think it depends on the person, really. Some people are really happy drunks and when their inhibitions come down, they let go in a very positive way that maybe they're insecure or shy, that they would
Starting point is 00:14:04 take them longer to get there. That's me. That's exactly me. And then other people, it can set them into a depression because it is a downer and they can have things that are on their mind that maybe they haven't spoken and it ends up being a negative situation. For me, alcohol should always be a celebration. So if we are celebrating something, if we are, yay, let's have movie night and have a
Starting point is 00:14:28 It's the mindset, I think, that goes into it. But I think it really depends on the person if it's in positive or negative experience. And I think people can look at their reservoir of what their past experience has been and decide if it's positive or negative for them. I think for me, because it takes a minute for me to get comfortable and you're in that kind of new stage.
Starting point is 00:14:50 And I think the drink or the cocktail gives me a little bit more of a comfort level. But then as you're involved with a person, because I'm only sleeping with one person at one time, and I've never had a one-night stand. So for me, it's like I'm in a relationship with that person if I've started sleeping with them. And I like when they have an STD test and, you know, all these different things. And then I feel safe and I feel comfortable. And then you get to what's that kind of comfort, really deep, amazing sober sex, which is so connecting and so real. But I definitely need the, you know, I can't go from 80.
Starting point is 00:15:28 to Z. I need the A, the B, the C, the D, the E. And especially after being in a marriage, the first person that you do, actually each time, I mean, when you're with somebody new, each time, it creates some anxiety for me. My rule of thumb is if you don't feel emotionally naked with someone uncomfortable, then it's not time to take the clothes off and be physically naked with them. But what do you do when you think your own body in? image is getting in the way because I think historically that is a huge issue and it's nothing to do with my partner. It's my issue. And what can you speak to that? I think it's difficult for women. I mean, it's 2025 and still, if we look at the marketing in the world, it says you're not
Starting point is 00:16:20 enough unless you buy this red lipstick. Or you're on Ozmpic. Yeah, it's constantly you're not enough unless you're meeting this usually unrealistic standard of what beauty is. And as smart as we are, as educated as we are, as funny as we can be, there's still this value that is placed in our beauty. And I think that we can be our own worst critics. And as we age, our metabolism changes and the image that we see in the mirror is in what we used to. So I do think it's difficult for women.
Starting point is 00:16:56 My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet.
Starting point is 00:17:35 So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hello, it's Danielle Fisher. Writer Strong and Wilfredel from PodMeets World. And we're bringing you Viva Las Content. That's right. We are back in Los Angeles.
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Starting point is 00:21:39 Listen to shock incarceration on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You know what I noticed is sometimes there's certain girls that will be at a restaurant or in a bar. and they're not the prettiest and they don't have the best body, but they have such an inner confidence that they literally light up the room. And men and women are looking at them and they control it. And there is something about them that is so sexual and so attractive. And that person, I think, just has a really strong sense of self. And to your initial point, which is, if I think I'm hot, regardless of I am, then everybody else around me, it's going to start from my own inner belief system. So I think the work is on us accepting us for who we are, you know, warts and
Starting point is 00:22:30 all, weight gain and all because of our life experiences. And somebody's going to appreciate it. And if they don't, that's not the person for us. I hear you. But I, the only thing I'll say, and my sister, like, Louise, you met my sister and she is so confident. I mean, she's attractive, but her confidence just radiates. And it's it is. It's so sexy. I want to have sex with her. I think for, for me, though, back to the body image issues, I think you're right that I agree it is this standard that's unrealistic and crazy and it's so sad. It's sad for us, but even sad, more sad, I think, for our children who, you know, through social media and all the rest are seeing it everywhere. But, like, it is real in the sense that I got out of a marriage and looking at my chapter two had three children, three children that I breastfed. know, all of a sudden, I was sitting there saying, okay, I don't feel like I need to explain
Starting point is 00:23:29 my body to my husband, who I've been with for 20 years, but to all of a sudden sleep with somebody new who might be looking at my chest. And, you know, maybe his, maybe he had a wife that had kids and all the rest. But it's just, it's really uncomfortable, you know, to think about, okay, well, what are they going to see? Because they don't know everything that's gone into making this body, the body that it is, positive or negative. Yeah, I think it comes back to really how you're feeling because I see the same people that are just exuding all of this confidence. I'll admit, I'm super insecure. I live in Costa Rica and I'll be at the beach on sunset and I'm my own worst critic thinking like 20 years ago, like, I wish I had that body back and just
Starting point is 00:24:17 my own self-critic and you see these people that are just just radiating with that confidence and that is the thing that's sexy it's their own belief system that they have about themselves and really what it comes down to if you're knowing that you have this insecurity it's about how you see you not having to justify how you think somebody else sees you and i think the secret is really trying to find the gratitude for our bodies looking at things that our bodies do for us instead of just the reflection in the mirror and the super first the surface level version of it so what are other ways for example sleeping naked that can give you a shift what are other ways to create that friction and excitement whether it be for your partner or even starting for yourself you know well you can
Starting point is 00:25:07 dress up i mean you can wear like a kitty cat suit i want to be a bunny rabbit no i've done that before a kitty cat for your partner no like a whole thing i'll tell you when we get a off the phone. Oh, I had, I had, for Valentine's Day one time, I got this get up. And I mean, it had so many things going on. Like, thank the Lord, I had a partner because I never would have gotten out of it. I do think, like when you do something unexpected, like a crotchless cat suit, for example, right. Like, it's different or, you know, a vibrator or different toys or different places to have sex that maybe you're, you know, not what, you know, I mean, that's, I think, what changes this long-term, very, you know, kind of formulaic sex that happens a lot of times
Starting point is 00:25:51 in these long-term relationships where it's easy to be like, I'm tired or I'm not in the mood. And I think sometimes when you actually just get there and you're doing it, and they're like, oh, my God, this feels so good. Why don't I do this more often? It really is about intention and it's about looking at what the ingredients of desire is because the ingredients of desire is essentially a paradox to love in a long-term relationship. If you have just togetherness, you lose the mystery and you have that mystery. You need to have that spontaneity. You need to have that sense of novelty.
Starting point is 00:26:27 You need to have that excitement. And what happens in long-term relationships, it's actually the law of thermodynamics that states all systems disorganize over time unless you put the right energy back into the system. This is why cars rust unless you take care of them. Bodies decay, unless you take care of them. In all relationships, the natural tendency is that they're going to lose their passion, lose their zest, lose the desire because people, their lies become cannibalized by the roles, the responsibilities, the labels. And we come home and we're the lazy, tired, comfortable versions of ourselves. And so we lay down, we put the show on Netflix and we're not putting the
Starting point is 00:27:08 right ingredients into the system. So you do need to come up with novelty and exciting things. And not everything you come up with is going to be a home run, but putting the effort into it and trying to be creative. If you don't have the creativity, the relationship and the desire is going to die. Do you remember my all-time favorite movie was about last night with Roblo and Demi Moore? And there was that one line there like, Monday night is spaghetti. Tuesday night is Taco Bar, Wednesday night, it's sandwich night? And somebody goes, sandwich night? Is that when you guys have missionary sex once a week? Like, it really stuck out in my mind to your point is a intention. I love that. That's the phrase you've used throughout this podcast. But I also think what's harder
Starting point is 00:27:53 too, which we should talk about, I think we're older than you, but our hormone levels, our sex drive, our desire, it changes for men and women, right? And whether they have a hard time, you know, Or we, you know, it's hard because you want to come off as like still ready to go and at your prime. But there are times where, you know, I had a situation with a boyfriend where it had been a long time and it really hurt. And it was still a new relationship. And I was in my head like super embarrassed. And I didn't really know how to say to him like, I think I need to use some lubrication to make it more comfortable. Like I felt like something was wrong with me by having to say.
Starting point is 00:28:36 that. I was ashamed. And he was like, great, let's go get it right now. Flip and slide, baby. You know what I'm saying? Like we were left. Yeah, but it doesn't matter because that falls into the category of our own, being our own worst critic. And we need to like seize ourselves and be authentic to who we are and kind of say like this, I guess what we need to do at our age where we're at, or as anyone who's in a sexual relationship is kind of like stand up and say, I have needs too, and this is what I like, and this is what turns me on, and this is what I need, instead of coming from that place of, I think I used to operate a little bit more out of fear until I was super, super comfortable.
Starting point is 00:29:17 And by the time I was super, super comfortable with the person, I was over and I didn't want to sleep with them anymore anyways. Or you were prioritizing their needs over yours, right? It's like wanting to make sure that it was good for them because that was like you had done a good job, right, as opposed to, am I enjoying this? Do I want to do this? I think that that is an outdated mindset that us as women haven't released yet, that we are only sexual beings when we are in partnership and having sex with our partner, where I believe that we should have our own sensuality practice. And it doesn't even sensuality doesn't even have to be sexual.
Starting point is 00:29:56 It can mean we take a bubble bath and we enjoy all the essential oils that we put in or we get nice cream and we just rub it onto our body we we stretch and we enjoy how it feels good like we just tune into our senses and celebrate our feminine energy yeah i don't think we do that enough i think we wait until you know he's good to go and then we're trying to please him instead of having our own practice in addition to our our partnerships or if there isn't a partnership because i feel like i always say to louise it's like for me it's like working out like if you never work out you don't miss working out, right? But if you work out every day
Starting point is 00:30:34 and all of a sudden you don't work out, it's really frustrating and you really see what's missing. And that is kind of how sex is with me. Like, when I'm having sex, I want a lot of sex. I mean, I enjoy it and I want more sex. But when I am not having sex or engaged with a partner and I am the same, I only sleep with one person in a committed way, then it's kind of like out of sight, out of mind.
Starting point is 00:30:59 And so for me, my question, to do you, and I think you kind of alluded to it with just, you know, taking more time for yourself, whether it be bath or whatnot, is how do I feel in the mood when I don't have another person because I then think I give off a very different energy. And I'm probably, again, oxytocin, I'm not getting that anymore. I think choice is the most potent energy on the planet. and I think it's about choosing that you're going to honor your sensuality. So it's not about being in the mood right now. It's about investing into yourself to create that shift and create that energy.
Starting point is 00:31:39 So it's about choosing I'm going to listen to, you know, in erotic audio book or I'm going to choose to just go enjoy a nice bath. It's about just in choosing to invest into you. Desire and sensuality, it's not just like this. It's literally the most important component is your imagination. And for women also, anticipation, you know, there's a saying how men watch porn and women read Harlequin novels. 50 shades of gray. That was fun.
Starting point is 00:32:10 Yeah, exactly. So I think it's about choosing if you want to maintain your sensuality. It's the same if you want to maintain your body. You have to choose to go to the gym. You have to choose to invest into yourself in that way. It's the same with your sensuality. It's about making habits that are going to create the outcome that you're trying to desire. So you have kind of a set practice or habit, so to speak.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Yeah, I have a health care practice. Can you publish it? We buy it. So do you have any special as the expert that you are and the doctor? Like any suggestions to people navigating Chapter 2 that are older, that are maybe a little hormonally changed? Like any magic vitamin we could take or something? I think it is really, it's the same as meditation.
Starting point is 00:33:02 It's the same with your workouts. There's a million different ways and methodologies. I think it's about experimenting and exploring. A lot of women, when they come out of relationships, especially long-term relationships, they really have no idea what it is that they like anymore because they've just been conditioned to have a certain role and people pleasing tendencies.
Starting point is 00:33:23 And so I think having the mindset of like, this is an excellent time for self-discovery and just really exploring a lot of different things. Explore looking at graphic art. Explore looking at erotic novels. Explore just feeling your own body. Explore vibrators. Explore loop.
Starting point is 00:33:44 There's so many things to explore. But I think it's a very personal practice that each person needs to. to create for themselves. It's a self-ritual. Mm-hmm. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Well, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back-to-school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot.
Starting point is 00:34:15 He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now hold up, isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. It's even more likely that they're cheating.
Starting point is 00:34:31 He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hello, it's Daniel Fischel. Writer Strong. And Willfordale from PodMeets World.
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Starting point is 00:38:04 I haven't audition in, like, over 25 years. Oh, wow. That's a real G-talk right there. Oh, yeah. We've got some of the biggest actors, musicians, content creators, and culture shifters sharing their real story. of failure and success. You were destined to be a start.
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Starting point is 00:38:41 I won't say whitewash because at the end of the day, you know, I'm me. Yeah? But the whole pretending and code, you know, It takes a toll on you. Listen to the new season of Grasasas Come Again as part of my Cultura podcast network on the IHartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. You guys, you want to know what's really funny? So I texted my ex-husband before this podcast because he used to call my sexy pajamas
Starting point is 00:39:10 that weren't sexy like a certain name and he'd be like, where are the all-stars tonight? He couldn't remember and he just texted me. He's like, the all-stars. How did I remember? He is so proud of himself. They were called the All-Stars. But I really do think that Shanna is right.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Louise, that you are always so on that I think the reason people are turned on by that look is it just shows that that it's almost like they're getting to see the real true you and at complete leisure and comfort. And I think that that's why it's like flattering for them. to be able to see you in your kind of raw natural state. Yes, exactly. And I think that that's why I haven't had pushback except for one person on what I wore at night. And he was a whole other ball of wax. Like he used to do really very kinky stuff.
Starting point is 00:40:09 And I think for him, he had his, that was just going to be a non-starter for him. But pretty much almost every other person, and I've been with, has found that comfortable, softer look, which included, you know, the cotton night shirts as almost sexier than if I were to come out in, actually the cat suit was with that guy. Isn't that interesting? That is interesting. Do you find that men initiated more with you when you would come home and you'd be all put together? Or do you feel that they initiated more with you when you were the toned-down comfy version of yourself?
Starting point is 00:40:49 That's a great question. I think it's interesting because I work full-time in a field where you're like making deals and, you know, I'm pretty on and pretty like done up, right? And then when I come home and I'm more in a relaxed kind of softer, more almost a approachable state maybe and I love chivalry because I think so much during the day I'm pretty alpha you know the field I operate in you know whatever it is you know the role I have in a lot of my relationships that when it comes to my relationships with men emotionally and physically I like a trigger puller I like chivalry I like a person who is aggressive and sexy and takes charge in
Starting point is 00:41:43 the bedroom and all of that stuff. So maybe I get, I actually subconsciously enter into that role of being a little more softer and approachable. So I think you're right. Like when I come home or it's that four o'clock before going out and putting on the look and I'm just sitting around after like a chill day reading and that they really, that's when they really come at me. And I'm more receptive.
Starting point is 00:42:09 You know, in the morning, I have too much in my mind. too much to do like I'm just I'm not I'm just not where my body and my mind is and I find that when I get home after dinner and I've eaten dinner and I've had a few drinks and I'm kind of tired because it's it's tough for me also that is a very tough window for me to become in in the mood quite frankly to have sex well and it's interesting you say that because I also we've talked about this Louise but I feel like vacation what is it about when you're on vacation you're on vacation you're so much more in the mood, right, to be intimate. And how do you shift and have that vacation mindset when you're at home? Stop. Don't work. Sit by a pool and play Rami Cuban drink rosé
Starting point is 00:42:57 all day. Sit naked in bed. Sit naked in bed. Have a couple of sleep. No alarms. No, no. I think you're right. Like, we need to have a vacation sex mentality 24-7 because I think it would eliminate stress. I think would eliminate health issues. Like, I think it would actually eliminate a lot of stuff like i don't know shana do you have any suggestions on that because you've seen your energy is very calming um your aura is very soothing like you've got this mother earth um way about you so there is something that you're doing that i don't think i'm doing it and i don't i don't know actually if phelma you're doing it either well for me it actually took a lot for me to get to this place. I used to be very go, go, go, go, go, go. And I had to force myself to have work
Starting point is 00:43:44 life balance, force myself to play. I'm very strict with my work hours now. First of all, I moved to Costa Rica. From where? From Canada. I moved to Costa Rica. So my work hours are seven to 12 and I will not work past that. And then I have my, my workout. And then I have the day where I go to the beach. I watch sunset every day. And I just encompass the pure Vita. But it was so difficult for like that little voice in my head to be like, what are you doing watching a sunset on the beach right now? You could be doing this and you should be taking more clients and you need to do this. And it was really difficult for me to get to the point where I was like, no, I am not living my life to work.
Starting point is 00:44:30 I'm working to live. And so it was a mindset that I really had to force myself into. And still I have that voice chirping at me a lot of the time. Like do more, be more. And I have to be like, no, my priority this year, like my New Year's resolution has work less, play more. And I'm making sure that I do that. I take adventures every weekend.
Starting point is 00:44:49 But 12 o'clock, I'm done. I'm done. No matter what, that's my boundary. And it's really worked for me. because before my life was literally just being cannibalized with all of the roles and the responsibilities and everything I thought that I had to be doing instead of just being. And do you feel like your sex life and intimacy and all the rest is vastly different now that you live your life very differently?
Starting point is 00:45:18 Huge, huge. I feel that definitely, you know, in the mornings before I'm working, it's never the time to initiate. because I'm like, I've got to get at it, I got to get dressed. So you and I are aligned on that? Very much. And then I need to have my hour right after work where I release and I work out. Then I have my shower and then I'm relaxed. I'm in the mood.
Starting point is 00:45:42 I probably put on more of my sexy attire, though, when I relax because here I can wear like the little spaghetti dresses but climb at mostly. Whereas, yeah, during the day I'm more, you know, put to. together and professional. So when I just decide to let loose, yeah, it's made me feel so much more desire than I used to because I'm actually connecting to myself now. I never had time to connect to myself previously. Are there a certain, like, sexual, you know, flirting techniques or something that we as
Starting point is 00:46:17 women could be doing that will help get us to the bedroom, like other than pajamas? I think there's lots of techniques that work, but it's really also about being authentic to yourself as well, right? It's not about putting on a facade in order to get to the bedroom. Both of you are gorgeous. I don't think you have any problem getting to the bedroom if you want to get to the bedroom. It's more about putting yourself into the mood where you want to get to the bedroom. And I think it's really just, again, about finding your own sensuality practice and finding ways to connect to yourself. If you're not connected to yourself,
Starting point is 00:46:55 you're not going to be able to connect to somebody else sexually. And that falls under what we were saying earlier about the girl that everybody notices who just has that. She's like in love with herself. She basically wants to have sex with herself. But Shanna, like, do you believe strongly in a masturbation practice? Like, let's really get down to it. Because I think we talk about these girls that are really confident.
Starting point is 00:47:16 And whether I don't want to dismiss that they haven't worked really hard on that confidence but I think it comes innately for some and it comes less innately for others and especially you know the topic of our podcast is second chapters often coming back after divorce even if you're confident it's definitely a new experience for you and so I know you you have given examples but like talk to us about masturbation yeah I mean I do strongly believe in having a masturbation practice I do think, though, it should be with your own curated fantasies and your imagination. I don't think it should be with pornography. I think if we're using external stimulus, then it makes it harder to orgasm with a partner. I think it's about, again, taking time to feel your own body, feel the sensations,
Starting point is 00:48:10 think about what your fantasies are, and enjoy that as a process. I think in sex with a partner, a lot of us are in our heads a lot thinking, oh, is he liking it? Am I taking too long? And we have all of these thoughts going on. So I think the ability to just get really comfortable and taking your time, thinking about your own fantasies, feeling your own body, and allowing yourself to reach orgasm is essential because if you don't have that confidence getting yourself off, again, you're not going to be able to get to that place
Starting point is 00:48:47 when you're in a partnership, nor are you going to be able to help people and guide people to get you there in partnership either. I think your point about slow, I mean, again, am I getting there, you know, is it taking too long? I think that that resonates with me. And it's interesting because my last partner was the most attentive, amazing lover, so to speak. And I mean, it made such a difference in terms of my enjoy.
Starting point is 00:49:17 He also made you feel from day one really good about yourself physically. It's crazy. I attribute 100% of my body confidence to him, which I will never be able to repay him. And I'm so incredibly grateful. And I often think, you know, you can't, somebody else can't make you feel a different way. But I would argue that like he spent so much time and was so attentive and complimentary and all of these things that, I mean, I believe. believed it. Like, I was cruising around naked where I never used to do that, feeling like I was God's gift. And I mean, I hope there weren't a lot of mirrors around, but let me tell you, I felt amazing. And as a result, I've never had sex like that. And I am worried I'm never going to have it again. It was like so sad. Well, he'd still have sex with you. He's dying to still
Starting point is 00:50:08 have sex with you. Anyway, and I get tempted often. I do. Part of the vacation mentality is this slowing down, right? And I think for so long in our chapter ones, we were spending so much whether people have young children or jobs or this. Like the best thing about getting older is that hopefully, if we're lucky enough, we don't have such pressing schedules in an ideal world, right? But like the children, the nine to five jobs, everything. So as a result, we should be finding more gratitude and the ability to slow down, especially when it comes to sex. Because if you slow down and there's no, like, tapping out for who got the first orgasm and how quickly it came, like, it can be really enjoyable.
Starting point is 00:50:50 And a partner also, when we are talking about sex with partnerships, a partner who also respects a woman's pleasure. You know, unfortunately, men, a lot of men learn about sex through porn. So they have the mentality that it's very performance-based and very just wham-bam, thank you, ma'am. It's, they're not prioritizing our pleasure. So again, you need to prioritize your own pleasure so that you have the confidence that that is a standard that needs to be set with your partner. And communicate with them, right?
Starting point is 00:51:27 Communicate, but also if it's not as important to him, your pleasure, I mean, that's a big red flag. I think that, I think what my experience has been as we've gotten older that and the men have gotten older is I actually have. felt that the men that I've been with, they do care about my pleasure. Now, it could be more a function of their ego of like, oh, my God, like, did I not make you have an orgasm and maybe less about me having orgasm? But I think that either I have noticed that most men that I have been with and granted their age appropriate, they are able to have conversations, they want to know what makes me feel good, and there's definitely more open communication.
Starting point is 00:52:12 I totally agree with you. Louise, I 100% think that at this stage in life, most men, if they're generally good guys, I do think it's an age and a maturity thing and that they are really into wanting to make sure that it's pleasurable. And they have their own insecurities as well, right? Like we sit there and think that it's just us who feel shitty about our bodies or feel potentially about, you know, our dryness or whatever. But they maybe worry about like, can they get it up or how long? will it take them to come or not come or, you know, all these different things. I think open communication kind of creates the ability even have more intense sex because it's almost more raw and vulnerable. I don't know. It's a lot of, it's definitely a lot of food for thought. I think it's such an interesting conversation, Shanna, you must love what you do and helping people and talking about it because at the end of the day, you know, people are physical
Starting point is 00:53:10 beings and they want to love and they want to touch and be touched. And I mean, that's, that's what you do. Yeah, it's very, it's very rewarding. It's also very stimulating. People are very complex. So it also keeps me on my toes to, I mean, I learn, I learn about people every day. People surprise me every day with something I haven't heard before. But it's very rewarding to be able to help people find their, find their happy and find their pleasure. Well, you have been been amazing to talk to. Honestly, we were really excited to have this conversation with you today, definitely. Well, thank you very much for having me. It's been awesome talking with the two of you. Thank you. Take care. Bye. There is definitely so much to consider when it comes to our
Starting point is 00:53:57 intersexiness that I know I will definitely be thinking about for weeks. For all of you out there, are you navigating sex for the first time post-divorce, finding dating hard now that you are single again, we would love to hear from you. Call us or email us, follow us on socials, all the information will be in the show notes, and make sure to rate and review this podcast. I do part two, an IHeart Radio podcast
Starting point is 00:54:19 where falling in love is the main objective. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her.
Starting point is 00:54:48 Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, it's Daniel Fischel. Writer Strong. And Wilfredel from PodMeets World. We are back in Las Vegas and giving the people what they want, a full week of Y2K content.
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