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My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious.
Wait a minute, Sam.
Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.
Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon.
This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot.
He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her.
Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate.
Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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This is Ben and Ashley I, almost famous in-depth.
Hello, everyone.
We are joined today by a very special guest.
One of my very favorite people in Bachelor Nation, Tasha Adams, is here for a special mini-in-depth podcast.
Welcome, Tasia.
Hi, how are you?
I'm, I'm okay, you know, I'm getting through.
I was able to start these magic nausea pills this week, which is helping me.
Okay.
Yeah, so we're getting through.
But you are seriously, like, you've been, I don't even know, like, how busy you have been since you, you ended up getting engaged to Zach, which I mind boggled that it's been a year.
Well, it's been a year since I met him.
Our one-year engagement is next month.
But still, like, that's crazy because I have so many, it's like weird.
Jared and I did nothing when we were down there in Palm Springs except sit in our hotel room for five days.
Yeah.
But I have really fond memories of just sitting in the hotel room and like, I don't know, it was really whimsical.
The Taylor Swift, oh, my God, folklore just come out.
So, like, folklore is like the soundtrack to that time.
time for me. Anyway, so let's talk about you and Zach. How often are you able to see each other?
Because you go back and forth. Are you still by coastal by like definition? By definition, yes.
So, you know, it's actually, it's been a whirlwind just because I did move to New York
on Christmas. It was Christmas Day. Yeah. And it was magical. However,
it was still COVID time, so it was not really the New York that it is now. But then I left to go film
Katie season and that took some time away as well. But since I got back to Katie season, I was actually
in New York for a solid two months. I didn't even want to go home to Orange County. It's like I can
really give it a shot. And I just fell in love with the city. Zach and I had a chance to actually date
and just create so many new memories. And I feel like our relationship really started then, to be honest with
you um because it was at that point that we were able to like go out and i don't know just go
out in the middle of the night and go walk the park and just like do weird things that like
we have been dying to do so we do see each other he was just here um with me on my travel
adventures if you want to call up that i don't know um but we see each other often do you feel
like the the missing is it the distance makes the heart go fonder or are you like no i'm like
pretty ready to just live, like, normally with him on a day-to-day basis?
You know what?
Distance does make the heart grow fonder, but I'm, like, good with it for, like, two,
three weeks.
And then I'm like, okay, I'm, like, ready to bounce.
But the good thing is, as I don't really see this being, like, I've been traveling
quite a bit this year.
I don't really see this being, like, my life, you know, every year for the rest of my life.
I think that this is just kind of like what's going to happen right now until I kind of set
some boundaries and my foundation and what I want to do.
And hopefully I can just live in New York full time.
That's the plan.
Nice.
Yeah.
So we like to like with the in-depth podcast go really deep back like to your childhood
and talk about how like that kind of started shaping you.
So you have a sister and a brother.
Am I missing one?
Yes.
Two brothers, one sister.
Two brothers, one sister.
And your parents are still together.
They've been married for how long?
Like 32, 33 years, something like that.
So they've been together since high school.
Oh, that's so cute.
Mm-hmm.
So describe, like, what your childhood was like in Orange County and how your parents kind of served as relationship role models for you.
Hmm.
If they did.
Yeah.
So life in Orange County.
Well, my parents were both very young.
Obviously, they had me.
My dad was 19.
My mom was 21.
Wow.
Are you the oldest?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
So I will say that my upbringing was very different than my siblings.
My parents and I were and are very close.
And I think that, you know, it kind of came with its disadvantages having my parents be so young at times just because they were growing up too.
And my dad was very strict.
And I couldn't really do.
do too many things. I feel like I was always grounded. And I feel like, I don't know, just them
working as many jobs as they did to try to provide like the life that I had, you know,
being in private school, it costs a lot. And so my, I remember my dad when I was growing up,
like I was working like two, three jobs at a time. Wow. Yeah. And so with that, with more and more
siblings. Like, I just remember, like, watching my siblings growing up and, and, um, really just
being, like, the caretaker of them, especially doing, like, the summer. And, um, life was different.
Life was really different. I will tell you, my dad and my mom were way different parents to my little
sister than they were to me. Like, I was always the one getting in trouble and, um, having to do all the
chores around my house. Like, my sister could do whatever the heck she wanted to do. I was like,
this is not fair. Um, but I, I think.
think it shaped me to be the woman that I am today and, like, be very independent, but also
a go-getter and, um, I don't know. If your dad was strict, like, how was your high school life? How was
dating in high school? Did you get any of that? No. I didn't date. I think my, my first, okay,
so my first kiss was my senior year of high school. Oh, that makes me feel better because mine was my
freshman year of college. Okay. Yeah. So, and that was so, and that was so. So,
weird in itself. Like I instigated it. I don't think anybody knows this story, but it was like
a Sadie Hawkins dance. But I didn't even get to go to the dance. I actually saw my friends
after the fact. So I never went to any high school dances ever. But the after parties are way
more dangerous than the actual dance. Yeah. So I was supposed to be going to like my girlfriend's
house or whatever, which I was. And then they were.
They all kind of came to my girlfriend's house.
And that's when I kind of like got to hang out with people.
But I, did I talk to guys?
No.
I was so shy.
I went to an all girls high school too.
So that doesn't really help.
But yeah, I was kind of, I don't know, just kind of an introvert and kind of shy.
So then you met your first husband when you were in college, right?
Correct.
So, yeah, sophomore year of college.
Again, I went to a small private school, and I don't know.
I didn't really date anybody until him.
I think he's the first person that I kind of, like, created a relationship with.
I didn't introduce him to my parents until six months after dating him.
And even then, when I introduced him to my dad, my dad didn't even look him in the face.
He just, like, kind of shook his hand and, like, walked away.
And it was rough.
It was very rough.
But luckily,
And then, you know, my parents obviously had a warm up to him. And, yeah, it just kind of, that lasted for a long time.
How long were you guys together?
Six and a half years total.
Okay, wow. So do I remember this correctly that you stayed a virgin until you were married?
Yeah, you are right. You are correct.
And what made you make that decision?
um probably my dad instilling the fear of god into me yeah you know what i mean again he was so
strict to that you should have really like loved and appreciated that you would think so
but you know also i grew up um you know in a religious household and since kindergarten i've gone to
private school. So I think that that was always kind of like taught to us, you know, sex is saved
for marriage. And it's always been in the back of my mind, but it was more so for me getting into
college. I think I was, maybe I was scared. Yeah. Same here. Yeah. I was definitely, it was like,
it was part like, oh, I want to save this for myself and part, I'm a little scared. Yeah, I'm a little
scared. Yeah. And you want to always hold like that value for yourself. And like, I feel like,
Like, it was like this weird feeling of like, once you gave that away, like you would kind of feel like, I don't know.
I get it.
Like the special.
Not as cherished or valuable.
You know what I mean?
And I think that that's what kind of like what private school kind of does in a way.
Yeah.
Did your husband, was he cool with that?
Like, how was that weight for him?
Um, yes and no.
I think, yes, he accepted me for who I was when obviously he first met me, and that was
a value that I held very dear to my heart, and I think he, like, loved me for that.
But I think it definitely was a challenge quite a bit, you know, in that relationship, especially,
but it made it kind of easier just because we were long distance, too, for three years.
So, in a way, holding back was okay.
My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious.
Well, wait a minute, Sam.
Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.
Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon.
This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot.
He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her.
Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
Now, hold up.
Isn't that against school policy?
That sounds totally inappropriate.
Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age.
And it's even more likely that they're cheating.
He insists there's nothing between them.
I mean, do you believe him?
Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet.
So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not?
To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
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So let's fast forward a little bit to, you know, you meeting Zach, and it kind of comes full circle when you say young love is so much different than adult love because at the altar, you know, on The Bachelorette, you say, like, this is like truly the first time I've like really ever like loved, loved a person like this.
Yeah.
Can you make, can you make the distinction between can you describe young love versus the adult love feeling?
Yeah.
I think it's funny.
Like when you're, when you have your first boy.
friend, you're like, oh, I'm going to marry him. Like, he's, he's, like, everything. Like,
you kind of grow with that relationship, but also you become that relationship when it's,
when you're so young, you know what I mean? Like, you grow together. You, your identity is not,
you've been single for 30 years. You know what you want. Your career is this way, this,
that, and that person's coming in to compliment you. It's kind of more like, you grow together
like as a tree and you create your own branches.
I think when you're young.
Yeah.
And I think that that's kind of like what I was starting to suffer from was that in my past
relationship was that that relationship was me.
And even when I got a divorce, I didn't know what the heck I wanted anymore.
I didn't even know who the heck I was.
I didn't have anything to my own name.
And so that really scared me.
And so when I did find Zach, it was really important to me.
And that's why I told him since night one, like I want a partnership.
I want to build an empire.
I want to be able to do my thing and you do yours and we kind of come together and lift each other up.
And it wasn't until then that I found someone that also had the ambition to, you know,
create a life for himself but wanted someone to compliment it.
And so when I said that, it was like this love of really accepting a person for who they are and
whatever they have going, you have to kind of be like, okay, I'm okay with that, not trying to
conform and trying to change them.
And with him, like, I was actually, it's so weird because, like, I don't think people
understand, like, how you can fall into love with someone so quickly and, like, as hard as you
do, but I was very scared to lose it, you know?
Yeah.
I was, I just was like obsessed with watching you guys fall in love. So I mean, I felt it all through
the screen. You guys, on the first night you met, you made a wish into the wishing while and you
just put coins back into it a year later. But you said that you were going to tell each other one day
what you wished for initially. Is that correct? Yes. Okay. So did you tell each other on the year
anniversary? We actually talked about it kind of when we came back together after me filming
Katie's season. Like we kind of, I think after that, it was kind of like we needed, we need to
remember why we were with each other. And I think that that's, that's absolutely normal. And I think
that that's, it's hard to like beat a new relationship and then kind of go away for a couple of weeks.
You know what I mean? Yeah. And I mean.
And this is me being real and honest.
I don't even think, you know, people don't need to know our story, but like I think it's
people need to know that even though when two people are like heavily in love, you still go
through things like, okay, we need to remember what we came from.
But we kind of reminisced and figured out why we got in this in the first place.
And I think that we kind of shared our story then with each other.
And it's very cute because essentially.
I'm not going to say it because I think we kind of want to hold out on it.
Yeah, that's okay.
They were very similar.
Oh, that's awesome.
Yeah, it was, it was really, it's ironic.
It's like meant to be, you know?
That's so cute.
I also just like, this is so random.
I don't have a question that is associated with it really, but like I loved his family on, on his, on the show.
There was just so much warmth from them.
Like, it was.
It was a hometown that, like, is just so memorable because of the people on it.
And I feel like you said that that was kind of when you fell in love with him, right?
That's when you knew it was him, was when you met the family.
Yeah.
I mean, there were so many, like, reasons why that night.
But it's just he was so excited to introduce me to his family.
And I was so freaking nervous.
And he's just like, they're going to love you.
It's going to be fine.
and he just started crying once he saw his family just because I think that in that moment
they both he knew that they knew that he was really happy because he came in like smiling
and I guess like that wasn't something he was doing very often before he had met me so
they had kept saying like something's different and I think that's when he knew like okay
yeah like this is a good relationship for me but also
I do remember Zach saying
because he was going to go talk
to his mom I think or his dad
I don't remember who and then I was going to talk
to the other parent and then he
just like yelled right
before he went out of the door like you can
tell her and ask her anything she knows
everything like nothing's off limits
and so with that I just was
like
that was so reassuring to me
like he is the person that he's telling me he is
and like I can actually pick
his parents brain and like they shouldn't
be hesitant to tell me anything you know that's great yeah that is such a good sign uh and you guys
you actually said that night one you like didn't have this love at first sight feeling did you
have a frontrunner on night one or a couple that you like weren't that yeah that wasn't sag
that you feel okay with like it revealing i feel like oh my god i feel like okay so jared and i were
the first group date.
So you went out with Brendan
and then we were like the second date that you had.
And the producers told us like mentioned so and so.
And I think it was Ben and it may have been Zach.
I think there was two like one syllable names.
But yeah, describe like who was,
who you were thinking of after night one.
Yeah.
Yeah, there were there were a couple of them.
I think obviously like first impression wise,
I like gave my rose to Spencer and I think that it's just because like he reminded me
probably of someone I dated in the past and like I got that you have to remember like I didn't
get the whole limo thing with everybody I walked into a room and so he was the first person that
actually came out of the limo for me and that's kind of when I was like and I think maybe it was
like the realization like oh my god I'm the bachelorette but also he was like very attractive
so that was someone I was like at first like caught my eye more of like a Cinderella moment
like kind of what you more so imagined your night one to be yeah exactly and um but yeah you are right
um ben was someone that kind of stuck out to me night one very easily i don't know yeah what it was
but he was definitely someone i was attracted to um let's see who else was there and i think
Brendan was also someone that he was my first one-on-one so obviously he was someone that like i was
was talking to, and I felt like there was a lot of similarity in chemistry there.
So that's why he got my first one-on-one.
But I do remember talking to Zach, obviously, and having that wish with him was very special.
And it was different than what a lot of the guys said, because not really anybody had any,
like, kind of gimmicks that night.
And so it was just a quick little simple thing that kind of just, like, made it fun.
Yeah.
My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious.
Well, wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.
Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon.
This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot.
He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her.
Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate.
Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age.
And it's even more likely that they're cheating.
He insists there's nothing between them.
I mean, do you believe him?
Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet.
So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not?
To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
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All right.
let's go from your experience as the Bachelorette to you going from that to six months later
guiding somebody else's journey through it. How did you feel? How was that being a mentor?
And especially so soon after you went through it? And you're going to, you're doing it again.
Like, I know. And what? Yeah. Okay. Well, let's answer that first and then I have a follow up.
Okay. Um, first of all, it was an amazing phone call.
Like, at first I was like, you're sure you're calling me, right?
Like, I don't, I was really confused.
That's like when they called you when you're, they're like, yeah, Claire's leaving.
And you're like, uh-huh, what?
You know, like, I really need to stop answering guys his phone calls.
Like, it's a good running joke now that I really need to stop answering their phone calls.
Because my life changes drastically after I get them.
But I just have to say, like, I was so excited to be there for Katie because I remember just like the
feelings that I had was like I just want to talk to some like a girlfriend and as much as you
have that with like your producers and like because they are kind of like my family at this point
it's it's so different talking to like a girlfriend so freely and being like oh my god like I was
such a good kisser but like also I hated the way like his pants fit and you know what I mean
like just like how girls talk certain amount of trust too like I think a moment where I thought it was
very important or like comforting that it was you guys there and not your stand a standard host or
a producer was this past monday's episode when kaitland came and knocked on the door to talk
about gregg's departure and you just felt more like security there you're like you're not
going to use my conversation right now to like be part of the show like i really think that you
care about me yeah it's just there's there are times where we're like
Like, okay, screw the cameras.
Like, tell me how you are feeling right now.
And I think just with that, you're like, okay, I am a real person.
They are real people.
I really am trying, you know, like it just makes the show of it all become like more of a reality, you know, and takes away what you think you have to be like.
And I think Katie really needed that.
And I think that all bachelets really need that.
It's such a weird situation, you know what I mean?
Just because you always have people looking at you.
You're having people watch you make out, fall in love and cry and go through all of these wave of emotions
to the point where you almost kind of feel like you're kind of going crazy.
You know, like in the morning you're extremely happy.
And then at night you're going through a breakup and you're extremely depressed.
And it's just kind of like you get back on your horse and you do it the next day.
For me, I'm not going to lie.
because it was so close to like my season, I feel like I kind of was in my feels a lot of the
journey. Like I would even peck Zach and be like, like, I'm thinking of us through this thing.
Like I'm thinking of how you kind of stressed out like going on a date or like how I was feeling.
And it was tough for me. I was crying a lot.
Interesting. But yeah, it brings back. Even when you're on set, it doesn't matter whether like you're even
relating to the storyline going on just like being around that energy and those same people
it brings back a whole bunch of nostalgia yeah it's it was difficult to get through but I think
that um I just knew that I would have wished I had the same mentors so I was just trying to
be there as much as I can you know for her um and I think it's an amazing thing to have for the
Bachelorette. How would it have been if Caitlin wasn't there with you?
Um, you know, it's, it's so funny. Because I feel like our experiences were, Caitlin and I's
experiences were so different, but also so similar. Like, she started with another girl as well
in her season. Um, yeah, I came out. Yeah, and I, you know, Claire is there before me and then I kind of
walked into something.
Caitlin and I, you know, had kind of like a rough batch with our first, like,
bachelor's, if you will.
And, like, I don't know, we just, like, really relate.
And so even her and I are able to talk about our experiences and try to, like, figure out
how we can help, you know, the, the bachelor at.
I don't know if I could, I don't know, give, I don't know, I think we both compliment
each other very well.
She went through a really emotional time on it, right?
because she was reminiscing a lot about her pass as the lead.
Yeah.
And again, I don't think people understand that, yes, we are creating a show,
but it's very much so our life.
Like our feelings aren't fake.
Like there's no way they can be.
Like you're still living through it.
You're still, you know, intimately involved with these human beings.
Like you obviously are giving a part of yourself.
like so it's very real and it's um it's difficult we only have a few more minutes but i've got to talk
about the ending of this episode this week with greg leaving um we had a psych we had a psychiatrist on
the podcast talking about what she thinks happened and actually she she emailed us today a very long
explanation she had after watching it thoroughly through which was different than my initial
impression, which was that it was, I thought he was gaslighting her like crazy. What was your
impression? I mean, it's tough. I think that Greg was just really hurt. I thought that he wasn't
validated in some of the ways that he was treating her, obviously. But I think he like genuinely
really loved her and he just wanted that validation. You are way more right according to our
psychiatrist than I was.
She said that a lot of it has to do with the trauma that he's gone through with his
dad.
And he kind of had a moment of regression to just like not being able to be loved back the way
that he expected to be loved back.
So I'll get,
we'll get into this again on like our regular podcast on Monday.
But I just wanted to get your perspective on that.
And then like, what the heck is going to happen with Monday's episode?
Like my, like, you know, like, you know.
And I am sitting here with my best guess being that she either goes after Greg, tries to make that work or just says, like, I'm truly leaving.
Like, I'm actually going to book my ticket home because I don't feel like I can say yes to either two of the ones that are left.
Let's just say, I mean, as we've seen.
already. Katie is a very strong individual and she knows what she wants. And once she makes up
her mind, um, like she doesn't falter on that. So you're seeing her really at her, her lowest,
um, honestly, the next episode, I die. I can't handle it. I watched it back and I was like,
you're freaking getting me. Like, I still can't believe the twist and the truth.
Did you know? Did you know everything that went down or were there things that went down
that you didn't even know? No. And no, like I actually wasn't, I don't even, I don't think
I was on property when this, when Caitlin was with her, um, this past episode. So when I
got on and I like heard what happened, I was like, I'm sorry. What? Like, it took me a little bit
to actually figure out what was going on. And this girl,
She's a strong one.
But I'm telling you, her strength is, you're going to see the other side of it.
Okay.
Yes, very much so.
Well, that was a fantastic, Tej, Tisha.
So now that you're on, are you on set of Michelle's season now?
I don't know if I can say that, but technically I can.
So yeah.
Okay, great.
I am.
So as far as what you learn from hosting, mentoring Katie's season, what are you going to do differently?
anything that you'll apply in a different way, you think?
You know, I think it's so funny.
Caitlin and I were talking about this.
Like, we were giving advice to Michelle, and I'm like,
I feel like I've already said this.
Like, I feel like I'm just repeating myself.
But the thing is, we are and we aren't.
We all feel the same things, like, going through this experience.
Which is why, like, we're able to relate.
You know what I mean?
But everybody is very different.
I think Michelle is a very different woman.
woman than Katie is. And so honestly, the twist and turns that are going to happen here are
going to be very different from Katie. And so we just kind of go at the flow. I don't know how it's
going to be different. But I'm telling you right now, it's already different. And oh, my gosh.
Tasha Adams, everyone, you're fantastic. Thank you so much for taking time out of your exhausting days
and all the interviews you have to do to be with us. You are the greatest.
Thank you. I'm so happy to see you. And on.
Honestly, like I said before, I'm so freaking excited for you.
Oh, thank you.
I cannot wait.
You be a mom.
One of our favorite memories from the day that we announced was you and Caitlin calling us and you being so emotional.
That was just the sweetest thing.
Like seriously, I had that screenshot, a picture of you guys, and it's the cutest thing.
It makes me, like, very grateful again for all the experiences and the people that we've met through this process.
We're all going through it.
a different way, but like it's, we, we have like this, we have this bond. So it's
exciting. But yeah, I'm glad we were able to do this. I appreciate you.
Appreciate you. Bye, Deja. Bye.
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