The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Hannah B's Premiere with Demi Burnett and Katie Morton

Episode Date: May 14, 2019

It's the premiere of Hannah B's season of The Bachelorette! To help Ben and Ashley break down the new crop of guys, they've got BFFs from Colton's season, Demi Burnett and Katie Morton.We'll hear which of the guys stood out from the rest on night 1, and Demi shares some scalding tea she has on one of the contestants. Demi and Katie let us know who they're excited about seeing in Paradise (*IF* they go), and we see if Ben really was the first Bachelor to say "I love you" to two different girls.  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Ashley is here. Katie is here and Demi is here as well. And we're breaking down the very first episode of Hannah B's time as the Bachelor. Ashley, first off, that's good to see you. It's good to be back, Ben. Really, really good. I just always miss you when you're away. And it's not fun. Thank you. Katie, thanks for joining us today. Are you ready? Yes. Fair enough. Are you guys ready to break down this episode? Are you guys ready to break down this episode in the most real, authentic, open way possible. Absolutely. I'm so excited to have two girls who were there experiencing the first night.

Were you there the whole night? Or were you just there to spot that cheating mad, Scott? I don't know how much I can say, honestly. We were there for the majority of the night. Yeah, we were. And it wasn't just for Scott either. Like, that came up last minute. Wait, really?

Yeah, like, we didn't know about that until the day before. Yeah. So tell us the truth. How did you find out that Scott had a girlfriend back home? I got some DMs from this girl and she sent me all these screenshots between like Scott's girlfriend and some other girl. Like they were talking back and forth and she was just spilling all of this tea about how Scott had a girlfriend and how she was going to see him whenever he got off the show and they were

going to go on vacation together and that he was going to like pretend to like Hannah. He had to like get into a role like all of this stuff. and then I actually, like, talked to the girlfriend. Dramatic gasp. And she denied it. And she was like, no, we're just best friends, blah, blah, blah. But then I did, like, more sleuthing. And I saw, like, photos of them together, like, date.

You can tell they were, like, coupley pictures. And so, yeah, I just, like, knew. I was like, no, this is for sure. She's just trying to cover for him because she doesn't want to lose him. And, yeah, then I just exposed him. Yeah, she didn't want him, like, mad at her. Yeah. So it's, like, pretty darn authentic.

Oh, no. It was super authentic. Like it was not planned it at all. And we were planning on doing the surveillance van way before we found out about Scott. Yeah, 100%. What an intense moment of the show. So we've always said, and there's so much to talk about and so much to break down. So we kind of need to backtrack because obviously that is the key moment of this first episode.

And I know we want to break it down more and more. But just to kind of note it for now, we've always said in this podcast that the good mark of a bachelor or bachelor is how they handle really tough situations. and I thought Hanna B handled that situation so well. I thought she was courageous. I thought she was great. And so it gives me a lot of confidence moving forward. And it also showed me there was going to be some confrontation later. So, hey, let's start here.

First thoughts. What are your overall thoughts on Hanna B? I want to hear outside of this scenario because this, like you said, night ones are always a little bit weird. They're always a little boring. But I'll take that away. what were your overall thoughts and how your friend did? I think she did amazing.

I think she handled herself well. I think that she showed that she's here to have a lot of fun and she can speak. So it was awesome. I think she did really well. I think she was very well spoken, like you said. And she went into this really confident. She knows exactly what she wants.

And she showed all those guys that she is not here to play games. I think she did a great job. I feel bad for her because I don't think her bunch of men are very strong they could have been better because we all know how much i love hannah i'm the biggest hannah supporter yeah out there right but i mean that bunch of men man i can pick out i can pick out three to four that i can see potential with and i guess when you break it down every season aren't there just three or four you want to be straight up honest typically yeah i mean there's except i would say that that theory for me

me, there's three to four that are compatible, but that theory for me has kind of been taken away over the last few years. I think really with even my season, starting with me and then going into Nick and Ari and then Colton's season, you can name about eight to 10 girls that are really just incredible people who you would definitely say afterwards, like once you get to know them, hey, I would set them up with a friend. And so for a while, I think that's true. Now, I think only three to four were compatible with the lead. This season does seem weak. So, let's start there we looked at all the pictures ashton i've been doing this for months we weren't very impressed just by pictures but they're pictures we weren't impressed by the green

pictures these gray pictures that they released this week are much better and seeing the guys in real life they're still better so do we think that this group of men is up to the standard that hannah b deserves or are we after you two being there spying on them knowing what was going on behind the scenes do you still question it I think overall just like you said there's usually the 10 that you can pick out that are really solid I think it's hard always to get a full idea of who they are in five minutes time but I think that you have at least 10 there that are probably really solid guys guys that you would want to maybe hook up with your friend that are as compatible with Hannah and then there's the three or four that are compatible with

Hannah, so I think you have that, but all of the rest. I think like a bunch of clowns, honestly. Like a bunch of them are just clowns. And I think that she could have had better guys. I think there are a few that are good and they will be good guys for her. But for the most part, I was like, get them out of here. Like, replace them. Okay, so now I want to know who do you think are the three to four guys that are real standouts?

And then who do you think are the 10 that will be memorable? Who do you think, like, basically the Bachelor in Paradise Castle will consist of? Just going off night one. Going off night one, memorable for me, I thought, not for me, but people I thought were memorable. Or like, Luke P. was very memorable to me. Oh, my God, screaming on top of the limo. Screaming. I have thoughts.

We're going to continue. Yes, he was a standout. Him, I thought Mike Johnson was super sweet. He stood out to me. He seems like a really good guy. He seems like a really good guy. and then who else stood out? Very little screen time, though.

Pilot Pete. He's so cute. He seems so cool. Yeah, there were a couple. I felt like he seemed a little conceited. Really? Yeah. Really?

I think that he presents himself very nicely. Yeah. But I also think that he came across a little smug. Maybe I'm looking into it. And then I think that obviously Tyler C is like the hottest one there. Yeah. Yeah, he's cute. Everybody talked about Tyler C right off the bat when those.

like he has like three side chicks though yeah definitely oh my god ben jokes sorry i was drinking my water guys i've had a fever for the last like oh bad so i've sweated out so much liquid in the last three days that i'm literally chugging a bottle water i thought i was a jug of water i thought i was going to get away with it but i didn't i'm glad to see you hydrate you know who you didn't mention who i think are huge standouts are to me my favorites Can I grab this? Yeah, can I say, I'm sorry, we have like this, this picture folder with all the guys. I think that that Connor S, who she had a steamy kiss with.

Oh, yeah, he's cute. Very cute, very, just like a nice compatibility I sense between them, right? And then I love Garrett. I like to Garrett too. I like to Garrett. But my favorite, the silent, sexy, smolder type. was Jed. Really?

I thought Jed handled himself so nicely in like a studly way. Not into Jed. You're not into Jed? I wasn't into his limo entrance, but I was totally into the guitar plane. Yeah, the guitar, the song was cute,

but I just, I don't find him physically attractive for me, I guess. I don't know. But he did kind of have that silent, sexy thing about him. I get him. I like the fact that he wasn't like

flashy, look at me, look at me. Because I feel like every guy looks at Hannah their eyes wide and they're like their adrenaline's pumping they're blah you know and then with him he just seemed calm like he put me at ease yeah yeah that's always a nice quality to have I'm looking at the pictures now did Mateo not show up to the mansion oh he did he did he do I forgot he brought the did he know that was Joey who had the uh baby carrier with the champagne in it it's hard

just not a lot of air time yeah that's sorry not a lot of time yeah I think that um Brian the teacher I think he's really funny like he's really goofy good energy good I didn't remember him so so moving in now it's because we've broken down we've obviously highlighted now you and I I don't want to surprise you all but based on your feedback there's more than

three or four guys here that you're fans of this is going to be a good season a couple of these guys will stand out and take Hannah's interest I want to then move into a couple of conversations that are going to be a little harder to walk lightly here we have a couple guys that

stood out not from night one but from weeks ago cam being one of them can pulled my ultimate and i don't know this guy i've seen him for maybe even 10 minutes in my life on tv he pulled the one thing that's a standout issue to me he and luke both described themselves and i'm telling you on the show when that is shown it shows a level of conceit that something's going to happen later so my my my my hot take prediction is that cam and luke are going to have something happen in the future that we're all going to go, yep, yep, they thought very highly of themselves. Both of which annoyed me very much last night, but I didn't notice the self-describing. Cam, he's going to lose it.

This man, he was funny on night one. I mean, the first time we saw him on after the final rose. Liked him, you know? Yesterday, he was being a little conceited with that all, like, oh, can I fit another rose on this jacket thing? Oh, yeah. And just part of me, I think he has a little craziness, right? I don't know. Yeah.

I mean, I think something's about that happened. Okay. Yeah, and with Luke, um, you're talking about Luke P, right? Yeah. So, yeah, with Luke P, I feel like for him, the conceit part, there's just like, I don't know how to explain it. It's not going to be perfect, but in this show, I feel like for the girls, it might be different.

For the guys, I feel like there's a really easy way to put a target on your back. And I feel like he's the type of guy that seems like he could put a target on his back easily and not realize it's on his back and just. keep being a huge target for other people. And he could, like, he could lose it just from people. I don't know. He was the guy. That first night, I feel like he could rub people the wrong way,

even if he has good intentions. You know, Hannah said she needed a moment. And she probably had moments. You know, she probably had plenty of time. Then he was the first guy to go up to her again. And he'd be like, all right, let's start this night again. Which is nice. Which is it nice?

I guess so. I guess it's nice. But it's also, to me, a power move. It's borderline aggressive. It's him showing, I guess, initiative. To me, I didn't love it. You know why I didn't love it? It's because he started out the episode

on the wrong foot for me by saying that he was popular in college. Oh, my God. And he was like, I'm an attractive guy. Saying I'm an attractive guy, which I think is self-describing like Ben can't stand, really turns me off. But then again, you know. But then it's,

Like if he was like, I don't know if I'm even cute. No, I know, but just don't mention it. Yeah, just don't mention it. And then he said, and I got plenty of girls in college. I feel like he thinks he has it in the bag already. Like, he knows Hannah's into him. He knows that he's her type. And so I feel like he's just getting cocky about it.

And power moose. He's making power moose. But he looked like a clown in the royal blue suit with the purple tie. His outfit was so heinous to me. I didn't even realize that. I didn't realize. No, I had no idea. Not the fashion police.

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and here's what I got to say as somebody who's in this show has done the show and it's stressful and you're tired sometimes you just need a break like when she says hey I need to take a breath of fresh air maybe she actually needs a breath of fresh air

I always am hesitant to, I don't know if it's a bad move. I think it's a power move. I don't think it's a sweet move to go and check in. Yeah, it wasn't sweet. I think anybody in that house is a nice enough person or an aware enough person or everybody in that house on night one is trying to show their best cards, right? We won't actually know any of these contestants until like week four or five when they start to break down and they start to show their true color.

So everybody on night one is going to be like, oh, I'm going to be the guy or the girl to run after them first to make sure they're okay that's going through everybody's head now some guys just go i'm not going to do that because it might upset the rest of the house or it might feel weird to them or maybe they actually need a break so i'm always a little bit questionable of the person that seems to take all the initiative all the time so he was the first one to pull her he was the first one to go after he was all about her right away and he's the same guy that says hey i was a good looking guy in high school that hooked up with a lot of girls now again i don't know this dude We're 10 minutes, and I've seen him for 10 minutes on a show.

But I would say right now, as a fan, I'm a little bit questioning what is going to go on here. Because the truth of it all is, as the first rose recipient, he's going to get the most praise and the most criticism. So I'm going to say, let's hold off until week four or five to see who Luke is. But right now, he's obviously a captivating character. He will be talked about. Yeah. And Ben, to go off what you're saying about it's not a sweet move, he's trying to play it

as if he was going to help her you know like comfort her in a hard time but really we know he was just trying to get extra time and to make a move on her yeah agreed and there was a guy on there I'm looking at these photos I think it was Grant who was saying yeah I think she actually wants a breather he was saying like I don't know if that was the right move

because I think she actually wants to take a break from us like she's been talking to us all night that was intense like I'm going to let her go you guys watching this unfold yeah honestly I think that She wanted, like, someone to come talk to her. Like, yeah. I think that, like, Hannah wants someone, like, who's going to, like, sweep her off her feet and, like, you know, love her fearlessly or fiercely, whatever it is. So I think in that moment, she did want to see, like, who would come and, like, you know, talk to her.

Because, I mean, Scott, she wasn't really that, like, distraught over it. She was, like, whatever, this guy, bye, get out of here. And then she was like, okay, ready to move on with the night. I think that it will get old, though. Like, she's not going to always want that. And there's definitely going to be times where she really does want to breathe her. But I think in that moment, she didn't. and she wanted someone to come, like, rescue her, so to say.

Yeah, for sure. And she was saying, too, to us, after the final road, she was like, I like to see you guys super bold and really go after it, you know, to each their own. I'm kind of, you know, more, I want my quiet time. I need my space. But for her, she's like, who's going to come after it? Who's going to come save me in a sense? Okay.

It's interesting. Night, what is it, white knight shining armor type thing? Yeah, exactly. Or white horse? Yeah. But that's just like. boldness like she liked the boldness of him like going up to chris harrison yeah yeah true well typically during this show the singer always makes me cringe because we don't know if they're

there for the right reasons is this the start of a new music career i don't know if it's actually happened for anybody yet that's gone on the show that the show has like you know allowed them to catapult them into stardom and in the music scene i can't remember actually can you remember anybody? I mean it did help Luke and Jed who I think you're moving into speaking about again it does remind me of Luke and I know that Luke is not necessarily a favorite amongst a lot of puk people out there Ben and I knowing Luke both like him right Ben yeah no I do and I know my point is back me up yeah no I do and so here's the thing with Jed typically that's a cringe worthy moment for me whatever reason I thought this dude was really good like I thought this guy was a terrific singer I was glad he started singing I would be using that on a first date

it was good anybody agree I agree with everything you're saying yes it's a little bit of a red flag but you know what if he like did go on for the show but then Hannah ends up being his his soulmate yeah yeah there's a lot of people that that happen to And again, it makes him stand out. When it comes to the right reasons, like we've talked about a zillion times here, it's like Ben and I didn't go on thinking we were gonna find our person. Yeah, it happened to have lots of things happen from the show.

Yeah, essentially like you go on thinking, well, anything could happen, and then you either fall in love or you don't. And like, just because he pulls out a guitar, I didn't have any, no red flags popped up for me specifically. I thought it was really sweet. I think pulling out a guitar is, a risky move and I always like hold my breath before I hear them sing and then once they sing

on me they're like eke or okay and his was so nice yeah it was good he's saying good the very first uh guy or at least the most memorable singer for me was Casey from alie fititowsky season he wrote a song to alley and it was like cringe worthy like it was definitely cringe worthy I think for everybody watching so yeah I'm with you katie I think anytime anybody picks up a guitar like I'm worried this is going to go epically bad did you sing her this song outside yeah I saw a clip of it oh it was that outside yes yeah it was on the reunion yes yes i remember that oh that was so bad that was so bad yeah it's really terrible it was really bad but yeah so this one did not go well i actually thought it was it was great i was i'm a fan of his after watching this um

who else okay i think there's a couple guys that we even have to revisit again yeah it's tough on night one you mean like john paul jones jones oh ben he has a memorable name was hilarious i thought he was so funny too he was like the guy friend that you had in like high school or college and then somehow he got cast on the bachelor and you're like no way and he's just john paul jones there he is i know and he's still being his complete self i think he's so funny so funny he's a shoeing for paradise amazing he's yeah and he has that corkman i would like to comment on somebody said earlier this mike smith um he said a line and it wasn't a line actually think he meant it and it was really cool for me to hear.

He goes, tell me more I'm interested. And he just wanted to sit and listen to Hannah B. And when I heard that from him and he wasn't trying to promote himself, he wasn't that you could tell the moment that it wasn't coming from a place of, what do I say here that's the right thing? He was doing the one thing that guys are the worst at. And we try to fix everything. We try to play the power player and we try to fix everything and solve everything.

But what he was doing in that moment was showing, hey, I'm going to release all ability here to fix this. I just want to hear who you are. And for me, that was awesome. And I really love that. And I hope this dude stays that way. Yeah, we loved him. Like, on the first, that first night, I remember we were, like, laughing, joking.

Because some of the guys were being funny. And he came out, and he was actually really fun. And then he sat down with her. And you could just tell it was like, she had the floor. And he was going to listen. And he would chime in. But it was all on the perfect moments. It was so appropriate, all of his timing.

um i thought that was really nice to see and he brought like whenever he first went out to her i don't know if i can say this but i'm gonna do it he brought her the sticks that she had fought with in thailand oh my goodness and she was showing him her moves it was really cute he was he was really fun he did a little fun thing and then so that they got to like play and then they got to sit down and he just listened and i thought and it wasn't like he was like i'm a good listener and then showed us how he didn't listen because i feel like i'd seen that before he was like i want to listen to you and he he seems very respectful

yeah very respectful I'm I hope he goes far I think he could go really far okay you guys are liking some guys this is good this is promising especially since you saw more than we saw I know you can't really tell us what we missed from night one that was memorable but I mean you can tell us a little bit

so go for it but just come on like what was nice who do you think got overlooked yesterday or tonight I think Mateo seemed like a really nice guy I didn't think he got enough screen time I thought he was going to get some more screen time as what we saw

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and the two of you have had the ability to sit there and spy and watch is there anything that we did not see as viewers that you all can share with us? I don't know if I'm allowed to share it or not. I mean I remember saying and I don't know why but I remember saying I feel like Jonathan's

going to be either the class clown or everyone's going to like him he seemed like very charismatic. This one was Jonathan He was cracking jokes to the guys. I remember that. Cracking some jokes, kind of making the tension a little light. You know, that first night is pretty intense. So he was cracking some jokes. And then I thought...

There was a moment whenever I went and had some words with Scott. Oh, she did. Oh, okay. You did. Wait, what did you say? I don't want to get in trouble, will I? No, just what did you say? What did you say to him?

Just say it, Denny. okay perfect um so i march he was in the driveway doing his exit interview and i marched up to him and i said hey you little spiky-haired piece of shit because it was so funny because he looked at me and he was like demi like he was so excited and i shot him down so quick and i just told him that like this is ridiculous and i hope his girlfriend takes him back because nobody in america's gonna want him after this i was pretty ruthless okay wait let's let's backtrack on this girlfriend for a second so she was totally in on the scheme. Yeah, because she was texting

with other girls admitting to it and like telling these girls every detail, not knowing that they would get sent to me. And then whenever I talked to her, she denied all of it. And she just said that they were best friends. Do you think that people sent you DMs because they knew that you were probably the closest to Hannah? Yeah, they knew that I would

definitely like bring it to light for her and protect her. This is such a unique situation. I don't know if we've had something like this happened before. But again, I want to revisit what we talked about earlier and really dig in a little bit because right now, in my opinion, and I think I gave Colton a B plus, I think was my great after night one, I think, and I'll say, I think Hannah did the best night one that

we've seen in a long time. I maybe ever. I thought she handled the difficult situation well, and I thought she was funny and actually, like, and this is a big statement, and I think everybody listened to the podcast, we'll get what I'm saying, somewhat enjoyable to watch on night one, which typically is not the case. Like night one typically is just not fun. And I thought Hannah B was funny, carried the conversations and added her own little quirkiness that made me go, I like this girl even more. You know how a lot of people were saying that she was so awkward and after the final rose and everybody was concerned that she wasn't going to be able to carry the show. She was so easy to watch yesterday. I thought she was super smooth. Super relatable too. Super relatable. I think that one thing

about Hannah is she always gives everybody grace so she knows how difficult the situation is and although she can be really funny she's giving those guys grace because she knows that it's intense and it's awkward and it's weird and she at least shows up and says hey this is all going to be weird I just want you to be real and sometimes you don't get that like you know we're all we were all sitting there nervous and I don't or at least I didn't feel like I had anyone saying like this isn't normal and she goes in there saying you know this isn't normal it's going to feel funky and she gives everyone grace and I think that that is the most relatable part about it for me. Hannah has lovers and haters like there are people who love her and I don't get the haters either

what can they hate? I don't know they I think they want their bachelorette to be more poised to be possibly somebody who just like I don't get it I don't get it but what do you what do you want the haters to hear just like the only reason that people are hating on her is because of insecurities within themselves. They probably are a really awkward person and they're ashamed of their awkwardness. So them getting to ridicule someone else being awkward, that's why they do it to make themselves feel better. But, you know, she's one of the sweetest people I've ever met. I, like, love her so much. She loves her friends so much. They just need to, like, she's a really good person. Like, through and through, she's a good person. She's not mean at all. And she's strong. And they need

to just, like, hop on the Hannah Train or we'll leave them behind. Yeah. She definitely deserves this, I think that the haters are because maybe they were upset that their choice of Bachelorette didn't get picked, so then they choose to hate on Hannah, possibly. But I think that throughout the season, you know, there's always going to be the people that are like, well, I'm not watching. Well, then they start watching. And then they fall in love with them. And then they're like, well, I said, I wasn't going to watch. And well, they go back and delete everything they said. Yeah, they go back and delete everything they said. So I think once they start watching, you know, they need to realize that if they were on national television, especially on some of the live segments, and they say, well, she can't speak.

Well, would you be able to speak in that? No, that's why we love her. That's why she's relatable. And it's so weird that people would hate on that because that's them up there. Yeah. Exactly. No one's going to be perfect in any of these situations. This is not a regular thing.

And so people really love to hate on that. And I think that they should give her some grace because she would do the same. Ben, what were you going to say? Well, I was going to dig into a little bit then to Demi and Katie, who know her best. We obviously know that, you know, she is likable. And I think most people will feel that way after this first episode. I don't think we have to worry about haters anymore. And I think that will go away.

But the question is, there is this moment that you said, Katie, which I think is a pretty powerful statement is what Hannah offers is Hannah offers grace. And so on this show, let's set up the scenario, though. And we've all been there. You walk into an environment that it's pressure packed. you have at the most a few minutes to impress this lead to at least keep you around and so perfection feels like the standard everybody walks into the mansion and you and knows if I fit if I mess up on night one if I stumble over my words if I can't seem to be myself chances are I'm going home and you're saying Hannah's not looking and critiquing in that way

then what is she critiquing by on night one like you know her best what is she looking for a night one that's going to make these guys stand out to her like a strong man like a bold man someone who's not afraid of things is someone who is going to be adventurous like with her like she's not looking for like lack of a better word like she doesn't want to like she wants a strong man yeah i think she's also yes a strong man and their willingness to share um i think that night one it's so easy to just be keep everything super surface level and kind of be so high energy and start spitting out things and instead of having an actual conversation night one she's probably just looking, hey, who am I vibing with? Who's willing to share their life with me? Start sharing some fun facts about themselves and giving me an idea of who they are. Just super, you know, as soon as you meet someone,

if it's really feeling weird, that's, I think she's going to let people go just from straight up chemistry or lack thereof. Well, Colton gave her grace there because I feel like he was going to dump her during the first date. And then she loosened up and became more of herself. Yeah.

Do you think that she's going to think back on that time and be like, okay, then I might just be awkward or nervous for right now? 100% when that's what I mean by the willingness to share, I guess, because she was so awkward, but you could tell. There's something about Hannah that, and I remember that awkwardness, because it wasn't just on the date. It was before the date. It was in the house.

She would just stare at the floor, like not blinking. Or thinking about Colton. No, she would just stare at the floor, not blinking. Like whenever we were supposed to all be talking to each other, she would just stare and I was like, what's all? with this girl there's so much going on yeah there's so much going on but there's something about her that feels like well we want to ask her questions because i feel like she's a good something about her that's just good vibes yeah and then once you get to know her you want to keep knowing more and more

she's a really good person really great friend and i think she's just going to go based off of her gut feeling on that so some guys might be really awkward and she knows it's a really weird situation but she's just going to go based off of their i guess vibe i hope this is such a weird season because we're watching the premiere episode and they haven't even stopped filming yet. She hasn't picked a guy. Still? Yeah.

Still? I'm pretty sure. I thought she got engaged. Oh, really? Or maybe not. I don't know if she's engaged. I think she picks someone. I don't know.

I think the final something has happened. The final something. We're going to start calling it the final something after last season. The next. Yeah, true. What are we going to call this next? Now the new standard is we can just run away together, which would be fantastic.

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I want you to pick one guy each page. I know that you guys out there can't see the pages, but just just go with it, okay? So we have like five pages here of the guys spread out, their pictures, and Demi, page one. We got Brian Cam, Chasing Connor, Connor, S, and Darren. Connor S all day. Okay, Connor S.

Oh, he's in doubt. Jason looks nice. Katie's going to go with Jason. I like Jason. He was the other pilot. Look at a jacket. Now we got Devin, Dustin, Dylan. Devin, Dustin, Dylan.

Garrett, Grant, and Hunter. Dylan. Dylan. Yeah, he's nice and quiet. Dylan or Garrett? You both? Okay, you guys are going to fight over those, too. You're in fair for Dylan in paradise.

Don't make a fight. He's not fight worthy. I'm not fighting Katie anymore. When did you fight Katie? In Vietnam. She kicked my butt. Oh, you mean, like, physically fun. Yeah.

Boxing. Yeah. Not like, you didn't get into a verbal argument. I said, I need to to redeem myself. All right. Third page, we got Jed, Joe, Joey. John Paul Jones, Jonathan, and Kevin. Who are we going with?

I want, I'm going to go with John Paul Jones, but as my friend. I want to be buddies with him. Cool. Agreed. I'm going to go same. John Paul Jones. Oh, my gosh. He's a fan favor right now

I like John Paul Jones to me like my bud The way that he went up to her And he's like hey my name's John Paul Jones That voice So funny It was so funny Chris Harrison said that He might be his other spirit animal

Like in addition to me Whoa I was a little offended Really? I got to meet John Paul Jones That's my spot only me The next page we got Luke P

Luke S Luke S you guys is Let's take a minute here The Nick Viol lookalike but let's not offend Nick, you know? He's a wannabe. Yeah, and he seems this guy is going to go soon. Political consultant.

He doesn't, he... I'm reading the job descriptions now. He's never going to have chemistry with Hannah. Just saying. No, definitely not. Mateo, Matthew, and Mike. Well, of course, Mike. We got to give it up for Mike.

Oh, my gosh, Mike 100. You guys are going to pick Mike over Luke P. Who thinks he can get all the girls? I will never, ever, ever, ever would in a million years pick Luke P to make it past night one. so funny that's just not your type no yeah yeah yeah aggressive he reminds me of chase yeah Luke not my type either from jojo season yeah oh doesn't he chase oh um I actually didn't I didn't watch that one I know it's sin I love Jojo so much

but I just forgot to I heard I heard that you um you I heard from you that you're watching Bachelor Paradise three now yes I actually finish it and Now I'm on two. Oh, heck yeah. Why are you going to reverse? I don't know. I'm just, you know, taking it as it goes. Like, you told me two is really good.

So I was like, well, now I got to watch too. Okay. Now I feel like I should go watch them. This is why I just feel like the show is duping us somehow, some way. I have a feeling something's about to happen that is going to change our perspective on Luke P. And here's why. There's always these little hidden things that happen. And the bios are one of them, right?

They don't write their own bios. show writes them after knowing more about them and here's a line in his bio that makes me go Ben we do write our own bios we do it in casting weekend what we do the facts we do the fun yeah we do not write our own bios that's an auto bio we do write the fun facts at the bottom we don't write the top paragraph but we do write we submit the facts what top paragraph are we referring to um so like luke p's is this luke p is a good christian boy from gainsville georgia no way he prides himself on being able to get along with anyone. That right there is a statement that stands out to me. He prides himself on being able to get along with anyone. And they show the juxtaposition of

everyone not getting along with him. I know. Exactly. So I don't remember having a paragraph like that, but I do remember the fun facts. And I remember when Chris Harrison did his top five to watch that they did a little paragraph on me and did it like that. Well, this is this is what's on the Bachelorette, website right now and this is why i think that luke p there's something behind the scenes because anytime the show will put that much positive words behind one person it makes me go something's up here something is about to happen and maybe not but i'm just saying it seems to be pointing to it yeah mine was ridiculous mine made me so basic it was like she likes yoga and sushi well welcome to Welcome to Washington.

All right, we got one more page left for your Paradise Picks. We got Peter, Ryan, Scott, who very well could be there. Right. Thomas, Tyler, and Tyler G. I like this like Tyler. Scott's my number one pick. Scott's final one. He's not.

This is really hard for me because two of my favorites are on here. Peter for me. And Tyler C. Okay. Can I pick both? I just want to pick that. I'm going 100% Peter. All right.

Pilot Pete. You guys have interests. Also, Katie, I hear, well, Wills. Wills is interested in getting to know Katie better. Hi, Wills. Hi, Wills. I said, hi, Wills. Do you guys know each other yet?

I met him once. You met him once? Yeah. Oh. He's so nice. There's a smile on your face. How good was it? Do you see me?

Yeah, I could see you. No, you could see us. Damn. I thought we could only see him. Oh, I see us now on the top. No, I just heard that before. So I don't like to put any pressure on anything ever because then I just get weird. Your kids' eyes would be out of this world.

Wow. Stunning children. Wow. He's a cutie. He's really sweet. Yeah, that's it. All right, cool. I ship it.

He would get your day card if you had one, first day of paradise and he was there. I don't know it depends on who else is there true that dog I'm just glad I don't have to go back and do that again you did it twice and I can feel my heart dropped just thinking about getting a date card

or like the guy that I like getting a day card up next we're going to do reader emails with our guest co-host Katie and Demi our first one is from Lara the first bachelor was actually they say hey so Andy Baldwin was the first bachelor tell both of the final women he loved them

and the show never acknowledges this. Do you know why? I don't know why. Do you guys know why? No. Different generations. I literally don't care at all either. Different generations. There's like two distinct generations I feel of The Bachelor for some reason.

Totally. I started watching at Alley's season and I think around that Jake Alley season was when a whole bunch of other young upper teens, early 20s, started watching the show. And we know nothing before that. And then the people who have been around since Trista have kind of stayed around forever. But I think there was a new influx around 2010.

This is just my opinion. I think so too. I think you're right. Yeah. Good point. Yeah. That could be also like, yeah, I mean, if you were watching Andy Baldwin season,

what was that 20 years ago? Yeah, I was. I mean, I don't even know who's, like 16. You're four, Demir, wow. 24. If that was 20 years ago, she was four. It wasn't 20 years ago, though. It was like 2004 or five.

Oh, really? I think 2002. No, 2002 was the first guy. Oh, we weren't talking about the first guy. No. So why did they hide it from the, why do they not show it? No, they showed it. They just, it's never been a big deal.

Ben is always regarded as the first bachelor who said, too, I love you's. Andy Baldwin's Bachelor from here at April 2nd, 2007. Oh, oh my gosh. I was an elementary school. Well, how did the women react to the two I love you's with Andy? Because maybe that was the difference.

Maybe that was the difference. Maybe one of them didn't like the I love you. Maybe one of them was like, who cares anyway? But you really shook up some stuff, Ben. Yeah, really mess things up. Everybody says I love you now, but it's like, I'm falling in love with you. I'm falling in love with you.

There's like five different stages. It's like, I'm into you. I'm falling for you. I'm falling in love with you. I'm in love with you. It's a cop out. Just say it. You can say I love you to anyone.

It's the I'm in love with you that actually matters. Yeah. Yeah, I love everyone. Yeah. I'm in love with you is definitely the most romantic thing you can say. Yeah, it is. It's very serious. I've never crossed that line.

Another email from Chelsea, Bachelor and sperm donor. Can we talk about how the fact that one of Hannah's guys is a sperm donor who has, oh my goodness. fathered 114 children. I hope they addressed us on the show. I found this on his bio at ABC.com. Can you guys guess who this man is? I know who it is.

You do? Mateo. Yeah. I wonder if he's keeping up with any of them. There was a movie about that. What if they all come back to him one day and they're like, Dad, I've always wanted to meet you. There was a movie I about that.

Yeah, there is. With the I love you man guy. What? We? Well, I actually think that. For Mateo, I know a lot of people have opinions on this, but I think there's so many people in America that struggle having babies. And I think that what he did ultimately was a good thing because there's just so many people in America that are struggling right now. And I think that, you know.

A lot of people are looking at him in the binder and they're like, that's a good face. And that's a healthy man. Healthy man. They're like, I want that sperm. They're like, well, he can definitely make some babies. He's got a good, like, two thoughts. Solid. What a fantastic job, one.

I mean, seriously, like, this isn't a job. Mateo is not like, his job is not a struggle. It seems like a pretty great job. The second is I agree with Katie. I think it's an honorable job, and I think it's a really cool thing that he's doing. I don't think it's anything to be, like, shocked by or look down on him about, or I think it is. It's an awesome thing he does. But also, I've always wondered this about sperm donation.

You know, it is a great job. It's honorable. It's a good thing that he's doing. But can we, like, giggle about a little bit and be like, your job is pretty awesome. Like, let's just think about it. Like, you're going into a room, like, relieving yourself and being like, hey, I just got paid. Like, that's not bad. Like, life's pretty good.

Mateo is also a management consultant, but he likes doing sperm donation on the side. Managing the sperm. Yeah, I'm sure he does. Like donating that on the side. So, yeah, hey, good for him. Good for him, right? Yes. Yes.

Good for him. How long is he been doing it for 114? He's 25. When did he start? He's been spanking the pony a lot. I wonder how many deposits makes 140. Yeah. Is it like 300?

And then he's gotten 114 because or is it 114 and he's just good every time? Well, we know that there's a lot of sperm in one ejaculation, but I wonder how many are usable. Anyway, lots of thoughts. I just like to show finds this stuff. Like it's so fantastic to me that ABC year every year finds these new storylines that make us go, hey, that's interesting. Like that's unique.

They're like, I wonder if that was his fun fact. Probably. Yeah, probably was. Probably. Here's what we'll close on. And everybody out here,

if you're listening, uh, please email us your thoughts first off at Ben and Ashley IHeartMedia. com on Hannah B and what you thought of night one. We're all big fans. We'll continue to be big fans of her. We think this season is going to be great.

But Katie and Demi, before you head out, now let's turn it on you for just one second. What's the chances that you find love in paradise? Well, if we go, then, I mean, I don't know. There's a chance for anything. And mainly the point of paradise is it's supposed to be fun. And you're just supposed to have a good time. And it's supposed to be a lot more chill way of, like, finding someone and not so serious.

So that's like what I'm looking forward to if I go is just having fun. And, you know, if you find someone you do, if you don't, at least you got to go to the beach and hang out with your friends for a little while. Yeah, I'm on the same page as Demi with that. I think that overall, whether we do or don't go to paradise, the chances of finding love on paradise, I mean, they're the same as if you meet a bunch of mutual friends. There's always going to be the one or two friends that end up flirting, having a good time, and end up as a couple. And then there's going to be the rest of you that are just all friends at the end of it. And I think it's supposed to be fun. There's going to be people that get their heartbroken or people that have a better time than others.

And hopefully if we do go, we're not one of the people crying on the beach. So, sorry, Ashley. All good. Who would be one choice for both of you that you'd be most interested in meeting? Zach, Efron. I'm kidding. From this season, or a pass. Ooh.

Demi has one. I said it the last time I did this I wasn't on that podcast Ruelz took over for us oh my gosh neither one of you all were yeah who I don't want to say yet Demi when have you ever been closed off this come on well I just don't want

to embarrass them like what if they're like oh god no they would never be thank you hype man oh my gosh I'm such a hype man they're gonna be skipping to the beach if you say their name well no they're I don't think they would ever go it's definitely way too they're way too cool for it Um, Brooks Forrester.

Oh, he is a girlfriend. Oh, he has a girlfriend. Yeah, sorry to break it to you. I definitely won him there during my Bachelor in Paradise seasons as well. Smoking hot. Bring him. Um, for me, I never say anyone for some reason. Uh, I really don't have anyone in mind because I don't like to.

Except for Will's. Except for Will's. Will's you out there. Um, so I like, I don't like to plant anything like that even in my own head, just saying it out loud because you know I just like to go with the flow personally come on not put any pressure on anything come on that's not a good answer you have to pick one person I have to pick one person um who's your favorite from a past season my favorite was my favorite from a past season my favorite was Peter all right there you go thank you for the answer got about him I'm just saying

yeah those grays though smoking hot give me silver fox there you go he's on his way there he shows up all right we would all love it if little peter showed up in uh peter's eyes give me a good set of eyes and i'm there okay well hey best of luck to you peter shows up to paradise we wish you both nothing but happiness thanks for stopping to the podcast today thank you guys so much we know that you're working on your paradise bodies but buca de beppo is out there in the hallway a whole catering setup it's Delicious. They are our go-to for these podcast sessions, graduations, team parties, prom, Father's Day. Bucca will deliver the party to you. Check out Bucca online at Buccadebeppo.com to find your location nearest you or you can order online.

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