The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Home Alone For The Holidays

Episode Date: November 27, 2024

Former Bachelorette, now single, DeAnna Stagliano, is not holding back for the holidays. She’s struggling and sharing all about it. Navigating the holidays with an ex and co-parenting is not easy. Are Kelly & Cheryl the best to be giving advice? We’ll see. Ready to find love again? Want dating advice?Email us at: [e-mail] or call us at 844-4-I Do Pod (844-443-6763)See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.

Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh, my God, perfect.

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But sometimes on the road to finding love the second time around, you end up staying in singles town. may be longer than you anticipated. I'm one of your celebrity mentors, Cheryl Burke, and I'm joined today by fellow mentor Kelly Ben Simone. And today, we also have former star of The Bachelorette, Deanna Stagliano. Welcome, ladies, to the podcast. How are you doing? Good.

What's new? Just preparing for the big day. What big day? The big day of being thankful and grateful. like which one there's a big day of gratitude because it's Thanksgiving happy Thanksgiving yesterday was my birthday and I had just a week you know what I mean it's just been I think like all of the things like I'm just reeling in like the kids and being divorced and wanting to have companionship, but not because I don't, you know. So I think I've just like really like

rode the waves of all the things this week. How long have you been single? My divorce was final this year, but I have been single for probably three years. Got it. Same. I'm in the same boat, except I'm definitely not looking for companionship and I'm loving it so much. Carol, I'm not either. I'm not either. I think it's deeply overrated. deeply overrated. I believe that we are built for companionship, and I really want that, I think, in the long run, but like today, no, no. See, I'm ready for, I'm ready to meet someone.

I want to, I've been going to therapy. I've been, you know, going through this whole process on the podcast. Cheryl and I have had some really great moments together with TJ and Amy and Jenna and I've just learned so much about myself and I'm not saying that I'm ready to get married tomorrow but I am my way that I'm dealing with my life both personally and professionally is different. Do you actually think that you'll get married again? Because I have a hard pass. For me, I don't. don't ever want to get married again. Deanna, people want, they know you, obviously, from the Bachelor, Bachelorette franchise. What, I guess, tell our listeners a little bit about your love story and your journey, I guess. Ugh.

Well, I went on the show. I did The Bachelor, and I was the final one. I was everyone's pick at the end. Like, I was the one that I'm going to choose. Of course you are. And then I went on to be the Bachelorette. And I chose someone. Not so great, but I did.

And then I met my ex-husband through the show because his twin brother was on a different season of mine. So I met my ex-husband through the show. And we were married for 12 years. And, wow. Together for, what, 15? Mm-hmm. So I'm very careful at this point because Addison in particular is very aware. Mm-hmm.

And she thinks of these things and her friends know who she is. They know who she is at school. They know me. And so I try to be really careful what I share. I hear you. how I share it. All good. I mean, I can understand that too, because when I was on the Real Housewives of New York,

when my kids were five and seven, so I was on 2009, 10, and 11. And so when my kids were right, because we're really young as well. And, you know, I didn't feel like, first of all, I didn't feel like it was a safe place for me to talk about anything. And second of all, you know, I was, when I was single, being single and two, 2009 was not sexy being you know it was like oh my god cannot believe you're not married like what's wrong with you the choice of like you're saying like this empowered choice of saying i don't really know if i ever want to meet someone or um you know that kind of narrative just didn't exist

and so i commend you for being such a good mom and for protecting um your daughter and your your children because it's not easy in this yeah it's important environment had a week i've literally have had a week and I don't want to cry but oh no you should cry it's good for you it's good for everyone I know I know I've cried all week we went to dinner last night for my birthday

and I was saying to my girlfriend so that I was just like that I just feel like I am going to great lengths to protect my children you know, I don't think I always realize this when I was younger, but I'm a product of divorce and the great lengths that my mother went through

to protect me and my brother and my sister. But I find that I'm doing the same things for my children. And man, is it freaking exhausting? It's exhausting. I also come from, I'm a product of a divorced family as well. And I don't know if this is the reason why I don't have kids or I don't, I'm not, I have no interest in it. But like, it's just, yeah, it's, but what you're doing and by being aware of what you say, because, you know, kids are very observant and smarter than we think. and I remember seeing my parents fight before they divorced, and it's just not, like, and then also

talking about each other, it's just not healthy. It's not healthy. I mean, I raise my two kids on my own, so I was a full-time single parent. It was no co-parenting. And, you know, what you're going through right now is, you know, natural too. I mean, those feelings are real. and, you know, there's a lot of stress and pressure, and, you know, it's our job to raise amazing kids the next generation. And it's like, you know, I don't come from a divorce. Both of my parents were together for our entire life, and I never thought I would get divorced. But I got divorced because I wanted something better for my children. I thought it was better for me to parent my children, just myself, than to be in an environment that wasn't good for them. And, you know,

it's not easy. And I mean, you know, I'm not trying to say, don't be hard on yourself, but, you know, it's okay to feel, to feel that pressure because it's, it's, it's heavy. It's heavy. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.

Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet.

So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect.

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kids but like I just sat in this space this week where I just felt like deeply sorry for myself you know as we're talking about like dating going into the holiday you know um and I feel like deeply alone by choice by choice but not lonely right um I feel lonely mostly because I believe that we are built for companionship and partnership so they say yeah they say so they say I also just like really love my life and I make a lot of my no I hear you but holidays bring like trigger something obviously I can do all the things that I um this week in particular and I don't know if it's just because it's been my birthday and and Pluto just moved into Aquarius just saying yeah after 19 years yes yeah and I

feel like Pluto like lonely you know and I know that I'm not so deep lonely that I would choose anyone because I have options but they aren't like great and I'm okay with that and I feel I guess really empowered

in a place that I can say no you know what I mean it's a complete sentence yeah do you have your kids with you Deanna for this holiday or this is my first thing

Thanksgiving alone with kids. And my dad is going to come out with his wife. And I'm really, grateful. Yeah, I'm really, really grateful. It's just a really difficult a few years. And I have really wonderful friends. And I have a really great family and surroundings, you know, for people who will just come in and be with us when we need it. So my dad has come. coming in this week and I have the kids. And so I'm just trying to create really wonderful memories for them and make them happy and make them feel loved and make them want to be here. Yeah.

Thank you for your vulnerability because, like, first of all, there's so many. I can relate in many ways, though I don't have kids. I mean, I can't say I never get lonely. Like, it's literally I moved out of L.A. to where I am with my Frenchie. and it's just me and my Frenchie and I don't have tons of friends in this where I live in this town and I also haven't really made much of an effort like there has been a part of me that has ghosted not just my ex-husband but like also my friend like everything around me I just feel is we evolve and evolving until the day we die and sometimes there is this

feeling of loneliness but I think and I don't know I like to not say it as lonely more like alone because of the transition that, you know, people change. And it's not bad nor good. It's not bad or good. Like there's no label other than the fact that I just want to give back to myself because I don't remember the last, I don't think I've ever done this before, where I've chosen me, you know. Who's first? Who was first? Right. And I didn't know who was first until I actually had quiet time around me because it's so easy to put everyone else in front of you. but they always say that you're supposed to put your safety belt on first and that's the other thing that has been really like a big lesson for me um because i have always been the kind of person like whatever my kids want whatever they want whatever they need like what can i do um and when you put your safety belt on first and you protect yourself then you are even a better protector of your children obviously what you're already doing but it's just you know when you're going through the birthday and kind of processing everything. It gets to be, you know, it gets to be a lot.

And, you know, the nice thing is that you have this your friend group, which is amazing. Like, I literally, I literally was so, like, mortified of, like, what I had done. Like, I thought that I had, like, done this horrible thing by getting divorced and this, like, awful, you know, thing that I shouldn't have done. I used to cry in my closet. And, you know, I just sit there on the floor because I don't want anybody to know. Kelly, though. And Cheryl, maybe you feel the same. I felt so much grief and so much.

I was really embarrassed. So was I. Yeah. I mean, I haven't dated, and I've been like celibate for three years since my divorce, and I think that all has to do with shame underneath all of it. Yeah, same for me. Same for me. I mean, I think that there is this space.

that you just feel this deep, immense amount of pain and grief and just shame surrounding divorce. You know, I swear we were going through a divorce for a year before I ever said anything out loud because I was so embarrassed. I was so embarrassed. And there is a cleansing piece of divorce and breakups, you know what I mean? Like you lose friends and I lost really great. great friends and people that I really cared for. But there is a really beautiful grieving process when it comes to divorce and being single and alone and really sitting, you know.

Because the easiest thing is to numb and find somebody else quickly and find another physical body, you know, especially during like the holidays. Exhibit A. Here you go. Then do that. Men do that. Let's dive into the holidays, speaking of the holidays. What's everyone's thoughts on the holidays in general, I guess?

Deanna, you go first. For me in particular, I'm just pouring into the kids. And I'm lucky I have them, they're mine. And I just, I think for me, I have really gone out of my way and by healing and my therapy and everything else to make sure they're okay. I really worry about my children and what this will do to them and the damage it will cause.

Are they in therapy? Do you put them in there? I have to say that one thing my mother did with me and God thank her because it's just about putting a voice to the pain, right? And if you can't and if you can't translate whatever you're feeling into a language, that's when it eats you up.

I'm like if they can just get to like 16 and I hope that they will look back and think my mom went to great lengths 100 and that's what I think about my mother like though the generation even though she needs to go to therapy but she'll never because but at least she knew what to do with me because I have to tell you the trauma I've dealt with my step sister who dealt with a similar story she just died of an overdose and it's like you literally can see like it was interesting. I mean, it's so sad. And this happened a little over a year ago. But like, that's the difference between being in therapy versus not. And it's like, you need, you need an outlet. And trauma affects us all. And I have said this openly across the board. When my ex-husband

asked to leave me, I chose to go to trauma therapy. I went three days a week for three hours a day. And it was literally the best decision that I ever, ever could have done for myself, you know, and with that, an example for my children. Absolutely. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast. So we'll find out soon.

This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating.

He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend, really cheated with his professor or not. To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips.

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My theory is that if you need to figure out that the stove is hot, go and touch it. Go and figure it out for yourself. Okay. That's us. We're in the head. That's us. My name is Curley.

And I'm Maya. In each episode, we'll talk about love, friendship, heart breaks, men, and of course, our favorite secrets. Listen to the Super Secret Bestie Club as a part of the Marco Tura podcast network available on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Well, let's talk about, since this is the holidays episode, we're going to talk about my first year, I guess, of the holidays without my ex-husband, I stayed busy because my new, I'm sober for six years, but my new drug of choice is now. productivity. So I numbed through making sure everyone came to my house so that I had to decorate, I had to cook. My to do my to do list was so freaking packed jam packed that I didn't even think about the sadness. Now is that the solution? Hell no. It's not the solution. I'm just

running away from my problems. But now I have no plans as far as I'm not cooking. I'm not cleaning. I'm going to meet my family at my sister's in-laws or her in-laws 2B's house. So that should be interesting. But at least it's driving distance so I can always get in the car and go if I need to. Does that feel good for you? What? To go and spend time with them. I don't know. I've never done it before. So it's a little bit scary for me to be quite honest. And like I said, it's in Newport and where I live. It's about a couple hours away. But I can always get in the car and come back home if I need to. going to be interesting. I, because it's just, yeah, you're right. Like, I've never really, I don't even know who her in-laws are. I would say I personally struggle with that I love, love to my core,

my ex-husband's family. Oh, yeah. I do. I really love them. I love my father-in-law. There has been some trauma within the family. And so that makes it really hard so I think you know the whole piece of switching holidays and yeah doing all of the things it's there's also a piece of just like grief do you know of course the family not not just my ex-husband um there is grief in in the family like grieving my my mother-in-law who I I just like literally love love at my core and she is salt of the earth, wonderful human being. I love that. At least you still feel like that after. Do you have any connection with her still or no? Yeah. I do. Kelly, I think that we're just figuring it

out. You know, I think that it's hard for her because it's her son. Right. And I think at the end of the day, I have a lot of grace for the fact that she can't separate the two. Do you know what I mean? It's her son. Has he moved on? Has he, is he, is he dating? Do you know, your ex? He's got a girlfriend for her. Okay. Kelly, are you dating? Are you dating someone right now?

You were saying that. You're still single. I am so single. I have chosen to like dive into myself and do a little. And he rushed into another relationship, which is, you know, there's also. That's the easiest way to go by the way. Right. It is.

Kelly, say more, Kelly. Come on, girl. Cheryl's like, I love. Cheryl's celibate. She's sober. She's amazing. And I was like a complete train wreck until I started this podcast. Stop it. If you were to ask me why I'm choosing this path, that's a whole other podcast. Okay. Well, I want to hear more about that. No, tell us your story first. But for the holidays, you know, since I, my ex-husband is French and a lot older than I am, we spent a lot of time with my family. So I'm just so great.

to have been able to spend time with my twin brother and my sister and our family and my kids and their children like always had like a really nice time together going by myself on a train or in a car or on a plane with my two kids always traveling alone was something that you know I used to dread so much and it was always like you know the kids and then there's Kelly and like who's Kelly's going to sit next to because she's by herself and I mean obviously my family is beautiful to me, but I don't think that they ever knew that that would affect me, but it was always, you know, where am I going to sit or who am I going to sit next to? Are you now starting new traditions? Like, now that you have this space of being your own

and your most powerful self, are you starting new traditions with the kids? Well, so my, both of, unfortunately, both my parents are now deceased. And so I've been spending a lot of time, you know, continue to spend time with my twin brother. This year, we're going to be with some family friends, which is really nice. But we were going to originally just be together, just the three of us. And it was very, like, strange how last year we had spent time with a man that I was going to be getting married to with his family. Oh, no. Daryl, tell her, don't ever do it again. Don't ever. Kelly. It was a godsend that it didn't happen. I'll just say that. Deanna's going to see me on the street. She'd be like, Kelly, no, Kelly, no, bad.

See, I don't, I don't, the whole marriage concept is like, it is what it is. Like, look, I just don't think there's a rush. I think it's overrated. The whole, like, I'm not having a rush to get married, but I would like to have, I've always wanted to have the life and the, um, the relationship that I saw with my parents. I've always wanted that. I've always looked up to that. And not like it's some like Disney movie, but I mean, I literally like that's how I see myself

throughout the next chapter of my life with a partner. Are you putting a lot of pressure on yourself? Because I believe it's generational too, don't you think? Like in a way back then, maybe, it's like there was no talk of divorce, I would assume. Yeah. Listen, I'm just going to this process.

I just started this podcast. So I am like, you guys are like way beyond me. No, we're not. I'm still in like the guppy stage. So you guys have to give me a break because I literally just my first like one person podcast where I literally was crying. And I couldn't even get the words out. I think I'm with Cheryl. I feel like.

I was like, I'm with Cheryl. No, no. I value companionship. I value partnerships. I value commitment. All of those things. I no longer, now that I've already done it, I don't need to co-mingle my money. My.

No. That is a hard. No. We are two individuals. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I literally called off my, my called off my engagement because I was like, if you're not going to sign this pre-up, there's no. At a girl. No pre-up, no me.

There you go. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. Mama works hard and mama pays for her own. place and I pay for my own groceries and my own car and my own house children and I don't need that. Correct. I would love for someone to walk alongside me. I would like that. But I'm a contract

that binds it. We're not one. Just because we're together does it not mean like it does it it is two separate people, two separate lives and hopefully we're compatible. Great. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.

Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not?

To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble.

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Nobody tells you anything. Listen to shock incarceration on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. so diana like what if you're walking if you're in the supermarket because you know that's where you meet the hottest guys is always in the supermarket so what if you're in the supermarket and you meet some hot guy what are you going to do no they are not in whole foods they are not they're not doing it they're not they probably are you just not see you don't see that i seriously never leave my house by the way just because you're wearing a hat doesn't make that makes you hotter by the way it does i'm not paying attention i'm not listening to anyone and i don't pay attention at all whatsoever um but also it's energy right like if you are ready when you are ready they're you know it's like i my energy is like don't fucking look at me twice that's what my energy is giving off meanwhile you're so gorgeous that's hard for a lot of people they're like you're like don't look at me they're like okay i don't leave my house like i instacart i don't go to grocery

stores by the way i know a lot of people in santa barbara like really good people i'm gonna i'm gonna introduce you too okay i'll look like makeup in the hair it looks so perfect Thank you. And it's just therapeutic for me. It takes me three hours to get ready. I'm not kidding. No, that's too much. Three hours? But I don't have kids. Oh my God. I'm a 15 minute. Well, today I got my hair blown out, but like if it's my own self, I'm like 15 minutes. So I'm happy. I like lay up my clothes. I know exactly what I'm wearing. Boom. What can my listeners do that are listening on this Thanksgiving day? What can they do to really, you know, I guess fill the void of being alone? Like any suggestions? suggestions as far as keeping their spirits up? I, okay, Kelly, forgive me, but I believe there is a really safe space being alone.

I genuinely love being alone. I think there is a spot where you can sit in your own self and get to know yourself. Wow, that's so mature of you. Oh, it's not always easy. It's called adulting. Like, wow. I'm like truly adulting. You guys don't use words.

I don't know what they mean yet. Don't use adulting and things like that. That's not fair. Adulting, Kelly, you better know what that means. I would say it's not always easy. I have had a really tough week. I have looked at some hard things in my life this week. And I have felt really, really alone.

And I think that's a very humanly nature thing to do. You know, to just sit in your own space and, and just feel really alone and want. Do you, I mean, like, honestly, is it better? Like, when someone feels, let's say, lonely and they're having to go, like, this is the worst. Like, when I have to go to a family gathering and the last thing I want to do is just pretend I'm happy and, like, all festive and, like, you know, everyone's all in their couples and my sisters with her fiance, my mom and my stepdad.

And then it's like, me and my little Frenchie who, like, snores really loud. And there's always this, like, awkward thing where it's like, okay, do I help with a decorate? Like, do you need help? Like, what do I do? I guess. What do you? I thrive and it's like that. Really?

I thrive. It's like that. I do. Because I do feel like a very strong woman. I feel very confident. I feel really empowered. Where do you get that from? Your family?

You were raised right. Yeah. Lots of trauma therapy. A lot. You know, I always was kind of this person and then I got married and I lived in a marriage where there was a lot of brokenness and trauma and just gaslighting and manipulation and there was a lot of things. I was never going to please the man that I was with. I was never going to be pleasing. But to me, that's okay because I'm not a pleasing human being.

I love me and I love myself and I feel very strong and very kind and secure in who I am. And there was a moment in time that got taken away from me. Someone that I loved so much. I truly wanted to be a pleasing wife and what I thought the Bible designed for a woman to be. And I think that that just took everything from me. I lost who I was. And I think through tons of therapy and diving in dogs. diving into me again, I'll never lose that ever again. I know who I am. I know what I want.

I know how I want to be treated. And I will never, ever settle. And I will never ever lose me again. Preach. I'll never do it. I mean, you know, it's interesting when you were talking about Cheryl, you know, you're talking about being, being alone and gaslighting and, you know, all these things that are trying to like keep. you know, break you down. And, you know, there's, there have been moments, you know, because I am the provider, I'm the mom and the dad for my children. And, you know, when you're being like really pushed down like that or, you know, like just people are, you know, trying to like make you feel like you're not doing what they, you know, how they, you should be doing it or the way that they want you to do it or, you know, the best way, this way, whatever it is. or you're just not good enough for that moment.

I think that, you know, for me, that was one of the times where I would just, I could just feel it. I have really bad psoriasis, and I could just feel my psoriasis. Like it was just all, it would just like start to go crazy. And I could literally feel it. And then I would just like close my eyes and I would just be like, fuck that.

I'm like, I am not going to let anybody take me away from me. And for some weird reason, like swearing at myself, this is after someone had gaslit me and, you know, told me that I was like awful and no one liked me. And I had no friends and da-da-da-da, I was going to be nobody. And I was always going to be nobody. Like every single guy I've ever dated, you're a nobody, you're an absolute nobody, you're a nobody. And even on television, like I was always a nobody. you're awful human fat ugly nobody uneducated i mean even whatever and i would literally just say that

to myself with my eyes closed and i swear to god the energy just shifted and i'm like i'm not gonna put up with anyone and like the next day i would do something like wildly successful or you know really good like whatever i would run faster or do whatever it was i don't know if that's healthy but that was my way of coping with, you know, just feeling like, like really feeling like shit. And I could feel myself also just, like I could, my adrenaline would be so high that I could feel myself losing weight. I know that sounds like a weird thing, but I could literally feel myself losing weight. No, I hear, I can relate so much. Like, it's interesting because the body keeps the score. Like, it really does. So like when it comes to any type. Have you read that book, Cheryl?

A million times. I love it. A million times. Have you read it? Kelly, you have to read it. No, I have to read this. I'm going to get it for you for Christmas. It is, I mean, you can also listen to it on Audible. It'll, it's a dozy though. So maybe it's better to read it. But it is so true. Like, when you're talking about your psoriasis being like activated in a way, it's your bot. It's, we, I mean, I still have so much trauma. And this is why I also do somatic therapy as well. But like, this is why dance saved my life. Because it's like there is a way to tap into it. Right. And your body's telling you something, Kelly. So when you. So when you stood up for yourself, did it go away? When I stood up for my own self, when I told myself, like, I didn't have anyone, I didn't tell anyone, oh my God, this is happening. Right, obviously. I just was like, no one is going to tell me that I'm not good enough and I'm just going to go and be better because I wasn't going to like put up with it anymore. And did it affect your body, though?

Like did you, did it go away? I mean, I would, you know, it would be, you know, ebb and flow throughout that. but, you know, it's not exactly the easiest thing. And, like, when you can see something, it's different when you, it's different to feel something than when you actually see it on your body. And people are like, wow, you're, you know, you're really irritated today

or something's going on with your arm. And I'm just like, you. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast.

So, we'll find out soon. This person writes, My boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy?

That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet.

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Am I ready to enter this new part of my life? Like, am I ready to be in a relationship? Am I ready to have kids and to really just devote myself and my time? I wanted to be successful on my own, not just because of who my mom is. Like, I felt like I needed to be better or work twice as hard as she did. Join me for conversations about healing and growth. Life is freaking hard. And growth doesn't happen in comfort.

It happens in motion, even when you're hurting. All from one of my favorite spaces, The Kitchen. Honestly, these are going to come out so freaking amazing. Be a part of my new chapter and listen to the new season of the overcomper. podcast as part of the MyCultura Podcast Network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I got hives all over my face. Okay, so I used to be a heavy drinker, and I was the type of drinker where you didn't know

if I was drunk or sober, so that's the most dangerous type of alcoholic, I think. And when my father passed away, all of a sudden I took one sip of a vodka soda, which was my poison of choice. And I just broke out into hives because I hadn't dealt like literally. I mean, I stopped drinking for material reasons straight up. And then I just decided I just don't have any desire, I guess, to continue drinking. But like, it is very interesting how like your body, like you can feel it. Like when I get anxiety, when my heart drops to my stomach, it's like, And then yet we're all intuitive. Like all of us have it, right?

It's just about trusting yourself and really listening to your body, I guess, which is interesting. Well, yeah, I don't want anyone to gaslight you. And if they are gaslighting, you text me and I will talk to you because I don't like that. So I'm like, now I'm going to be like the gaslighting cop. That just doesn't work for me. And I won't let anyone talk to me like that. And I definitely am not going to let anyone talk to you like that. so that's just not happening.

I think a really unhealthy relationship teaches you what is not right. So I... Hopefully. Hopefully. Hopefully. I was a very secure, attached human being before I got married. I feel like you are still. I was going to say that.

Well, I am now. I know because I've tested since. And Kelly, who are you? Remember we talked about this last time? I'm working on it. I'm a working progress. You've got to center that test. I am a very securely attached human being now, and I was before I got married, but somewhere

along the way in a relationship as I tried to find myself and tried to become this, I mean, codependent. That's what we were. You know what I mean? I'm definitely there still. This person who relied on another human being. It took me, it was very hard for me to learn to rely on another human being. So the lines were very flawed with me when it came to relying on another human being and then being my own. And so when the marriage ended,

it was very hard for me and very traumatic to reshape the lines. Because you were vulnerable and you basically let go of control, right? Yes. in order to be able to be that vulnerable person with somebody. Yes. See, I've never had that because I was a provider.

I never thought, I never was, I was codependent in the way that I would try to make myself feel like I needed that person, even though I was the one doing all the work. And so it was this very like, you know, this crazy strong dynamic with myself of like, you know, can I trust this really? trust this person, like, you know, how much can I ask of them? And never, like, asking anything, like, never saying, like, asking them a question or, you know, second-guessing anything, like, just never, you know, which was- Well, and codependency in general is really, really, really, really gross. I mean, it's just- Awful. Have you read the book, codependent no more? I think I, but I definitely have had some codependency with some guys that I've dated in the past. I definitely have had that absolutely. There's a waterfall effect when you have codependency. When you know how to be

codependent, I think that it is a, it is a slippery slope. But it's also in different forms. Like, I'm rereading it, right? There's a new codependent, no more, like a newer version. And I'm actually listening to it right now. And I'm shocked as to what I was hearing because I was like, wait, I thought codependency meant like codependency. Like, I need you in my, I need another person in my life that I'm going to just rely on for everything. But it's, It's not that. It's also being the breadwinner and also wanting to. Oh, my gosh, good morning. Good morning. Good morning. It's so great to hear from you. It's all the thing. So we were talking about dating into the holidays and it's all of those things. I think out why do I even bother? Why do I even bother dating? Simply because you slip or I also think, and Cheryl and Kelly, tell me if I'm wrong, but I think I'm in a place that I'm too healed. I'm too therapist. I've had too much therapy. You think there's a such a thing as too much therapy?

I am too therapists. Interesting. I've never heard that before. I haven't either. I've been in therapy since I was four. You're, no, you're very, you have such empathy and, you know, you're very verbal and you're very open and communicative. I do. Also in a place. where like every time some guy texts me every single morning, he's like, hey, good morning. And I'm like, nope, nope, this is a red flag. It's a red flag. Hard bed flag. No one should text you every single day.

What aren't you doing? Don't you have a job? What is life? It takes two seconds, though, mind you, to text good morning. I think that's nice that he's saying good morning. I think that's so thoughtful. No, it's not a, I think you're just not ready to be maybe in a relationship. That's okay, though.

Yeah. I think it's good. It's nice to when you're when someone, there's someone that you care about when they say something like, they send you like a meme or say good morning or. Why is it a red flag? I'm just out of curiosity. For me, it's a red flag because they don't know you yet. So I'm only saying that in a sense. I totally hear you. I get it. Yes. If you've only known every morning or two, they don't truly know you. Yeah, no. That's weird. the depths of like your core, they shouldn't be texting you every single day. Unless you asked for that, right? Like, that's one thing. Yeah. Which I'm pretty sure I can bet my right ass cheek. You didn't ask for that.

I didn't. No, but I'm a textor. So I, that's what I do with my friends, like work. I'm like, good morning. How are you? Hope you have a great great day. Like, I'm, that's like my way of communicating. Can you start texting me that?

That would be nice. I would definitely. I'll be like, hi, Cheryl. Put me on that chain. Copy. copy paste. No, I don't copy and paste. I write it myself. No, that's what I would do. I don't have the freaking, I'm like, come on, how do we can, how can I multitask though? There's no such thing. What do you girls think about splitting the holidays with your kids? Like, I remember I did that,

or I, until my dad decided to move out of the country. But how do you feel about all that? I don't know if you're doing it yet. Kelly, are you? I've never split my, I've always had my kids. I've only had been at holidays with my kids. I've never, I've never, I've had my ex's kids with us, but I've never not been with my children. And I will, I mean, I, that's something that I'm in fear of is like, you know, I'm excited for them because my kids are so much older, you know, they're 24 and 26. Oh, yeah, yeah. But what happens when they meet these, they're these guys and they're like, mom, we're going to go to so-and-so's house, I want to be devastated. I'm going to be like, what? Where?

I would tell you, my children are almost nine and almost 11, and we split house. And I would say it's really, really hard. Oh, I can't see them. So this is my first Thanksgiving alone with the kids. So I'm thankful my dad and his wife will come out and be with us because I was really worried about us being alone, you know, because I feel like I'm in this space where I'm just. trying to go above and beyond to make sure the kids are full and happy and loved and have this really wonderful life that they feel really full when they're with me because I want them to love to be with me. And because I am single and he has a girlfriend. I also sit in this

other space where I just want to fucking choke her. Totally. Girl. Thank you. I am really grateful that she is kind I'm like totally here you are let's talk let's be real it is like a double edge sword I am really thankful that she is kind to my children and that she is kind she better be what the hell

you don't get a gold star to be kind to your children I set my ex-husband up with a girl woman so that I could be like we're done I literally was like here's your new girlfriend or we're done stop it I couldn't take it anymore 100% yeah I did not do that I did you are with someone for so long like I was with my

ex-husband for 15 years and then it was like for 10 okay so overnight yeah I don't feel like I know him at all like like literally I went to sleep and I woke up and I'm like who the fuck is this human being and just that alone for me in particular is really hard and it's really hard to grasp because when you marry someone and you're with someone for that long, you are most intimate with that human being. And so to go from that, and again, I didn't ask for divorce. It was his choice, although I'm grateful for it now. I'm very happy now.

It is amazing to me how it goes overnight. You do not know that person anymore. They are no longer you're human. Is it the communication? or like what happened? I think it's a number of things. See, mine was a slow death. Mine was like a,

mine was like a crock pot where I was like in there just boiling up, boiling up. I was like, I was like, okay, it's continuing, it's continuing, it's continuing, I can only handle so much.

Like, I couldn't take it. Because I am so loyal to a fault. I am loyal to a fault to myself that I likely would have wrote it out for 60 years. I would have stayed married. I would have been in this unhappy marriage for 60 years, for the rest of my life. I would have seen my children graduate high school and college and get married and have children themselves. And I would have lived in this unhappy marriage had he not

chosen to leave. But it's a blessing because like if I, my mom didn't choose to leave my father, I don't think I would be here today. Because kids are very observant, as you know, and we can feel at all. So it's like at the end of the day, what's the healthiest scenario, you know? I mean, I agree with you down too. Like, I mean, I would have stayed even though it was just such a horrible situation. Like, I didn't know any. I'm from Brockford, Illinois. I mean, no one gets divorced in Rockford, Illinois. And they're like, Kelly, no one in. I'm just saying, like, I'm older than you. But I just. Why? No one knows. No one knows who Rockville, Illinois is, exactly. Exactly. But like people would, like, people get divorced there. I was like, my, when like someone got divorced, my parents would be like, they got divorced. I was like, oh my God, what does that mean? What happened? Like, is it infectious? Like, is it contagious?

But that's why it's important to have these conversations, because it's normal. But I know, but my point is, I'm with like, Deanna, like, I would have stayed. I just, I just could, I just couldn't do it anymore. My kids were growing up and it was just like so much. It was, I was alone so much. And then what I was exposed to on top of that, it was just like, I couldn't handle it. Thank God you guys didn't stay. When the kids said to me, once I finally moved into a place of my own and we were here for a year and I said to the kids, how are you? How are you feeling? And again, I'm pro-mental health.

I have had them in therapy. I'm doing all of the things to make sure that they, God, I hope turn out okay and as as possible. I'm trying all of the things. I remember saying to my kids, you know, how are you? What do you think now that it's just me here and daddy's in his own space? And the kids looked at me and they said, we're really grateful. We don't have to hear you fight anymore. Oh, right? Do they, are they open to you with their feelings? Tell me that's not like gut-wrenching. Tell me that's not just gut-wrenching. still to this day I could sob right now because I would say that Stephen and I both thought we were doing a really good job to hide it from them to oh it's just like we're like my parents never fought in front of me but like I felt it heavy it was heavy yeah yeah so I think that we

were doing a really good job of protecting the kids but really but you did by breaking up seriously though seriously i can't even it's hard probably to see i mean for me i i don't i honestly think i would have i already have a bad pattern of picking of men because i never really had a stable man in my life as far as when i was a young girl but like i don't even think i i think i would have been off my rock or if i if i witnessed more than what i witnessed with my parents yeah i think that I learned through lots of therapy that I come from a long history of abandonment. Like, my mother died when I was young and that's a source of abandonment. I'm sorry.

My dad left my mom and that is a source of abandonment. And I don't know like he ever chose me. He always chose women over me. And pretty much every relationship that I have had since has been men that have abandoned me. So I think that I am finally in a place in my life or I'm just, I'm not willing to do that any longer. I want someone and I don't care who they are. I don't care what they look like. I don't care what they do for a living.

I don't care how much money they make. I just want to feel loved and chosen. And I won't settle for less than that. That's beautiful. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot.

He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, And they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him?

Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom.

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didn't have that father figure, you know? Yeah. But yeah, I also come from abandonment. I am very much anxious attachment. Hello, my name is Cheryl Burke and I'm anxious attachment and a recovering alcoholic. So there's that. How about you? Kelly, are you into solo traveling during the holidays or in general when you're single? I mean, I've done it the entire time, always just traveled with my kids. Like on vacation and stuff. And that, you know, that mom just with her kids. Everyone else is like, you know, the kids are the father, father and mother are screaming at their kids. And I'm just like sitting there. My kids are not moving. And I also'm like, wait a minute, this is so not fair. Like, I'm the one that's sitting there and my kids are well-mannered

and everybody else has like a co-parent and the kids are running around like, you know, wildfire. I'm like, how is this fair? You have your kids in check. And then you've got two grown-ass adults. Yeah. Yeah. Why do I have to be that person? Why can't I? Why can't my kids be like, you know, drinking too much Coca-Cola and like... How about solo traveling without kids? Way too much sugar in Coca-Cola. No, I'm just kidding. We did miss a flight, though, once because my kids were like on their phones and I just was like, okay, you guys, you have to be responsible. We totally missed

the flight. My twin brother was like incensed. What are you guys doing? I'm like, we missed the flight? We never missed a flight since them. How about solo traveling without kids? I love traveling solo. I have so much anxiety when I travel. No, Kelly, it's the best thing I love it so much. Because I wasn't, when I was, I was, I started modeling when I was 15, so I traveled so much as a young, as a young person. And just traveling like all over the place. Like people are like, oh, modeling is so great. You are always by yourself on a plane to like Asia, to Europe, to California, to New York.

And it's like one day here, one day there. And by yourself was, it was so much. And then when my kids, I mean, I couldn't even travel with my kids. I couldn't even drive a car for a long, for a long period of time. I couldn't be alone. I'm a corporate flight attendant. I've done it for over 14 years. I love it.

If I am home too long, I feel lost. I need to be on the road. I need to be traveling. I need to go and be somewhere and stay in a hotel and eat up hotels. All of the things. but more Kelly you said people are always like oh my gosh your life is so amazing you you're traveling to all these places and you're going all over the world and you know what I would say is I do it alone I am alone most of the time and I do genuinely love my job I love what I do I love the family

that I work for I am so deeply grateful for them and for the paycheck and I can put a roof over the kids heads, but I do it alone all the time. I'm alone on the road 99 and a half percent of the time. Would you like to not be alone? Would you want someone to travel? I think that if I could live in a perfect world and I were to have someone and choose someone, I would love it if they would join me. Yes. That would be because I genuinely love to travel and I deeply love my job. I think If I were to find someone and they were a good match for me, it would be for them to join me on the road. Has it ever been like a thing where you were dating and let's say it's just too hard because of your schedule of traveling or? Yeah.

Why do you think I'm still single? Well, I mean, I don't travel. So. No, I would say that it is literally my life revolves around my job or I have the kids. Yeah. Have you met anyone traveling like that? I have. And I think that I meet really great people when I'm on the road. I meet people that I would actually really like to have a relationship with. But I'm on the road. You know, it's interesting

is that too, like, you know, I travel a lot for work now as well. And, you know, I find myself, even though I don't have to come home. I mean, my kids are older. They go to work. They have their own jobs. But I still find myself, when I was a model I'd be like, I have to take the right eye home. I have to get home. You know, I always have to get home to my kids. Always had to get home to my kids. And I still do the same thing. I'm like on a flight 6 a.m. to Florida and I'm on a flight

coming home. I'm like, wait, I could be staying every night. I could be feeling gorgeous like wherever I am. And I'm like, on a plane to be back home just in case. I'm always like, just in case. Oh, you're a good mom. No, but I mean, like, it's one thing to be alone. And I

I understand, I understand what I do and how I do it. But, you know, I also can like maybe give myself a little, I can actually give myself a little grace and say, like, it's okay to do some things that I may like. Yeah. Like, why not? And like pamper yourself and give back to yourself. Right. I mean, I think it's so, I love when Donna said she gave, you know, she gives other people all this grace. but I think too we need to also really give ourselves. I mean, that's the lesson. That's the takeaway that I'm getting from today is like giving myself some grace.

And I think that's what we do when we choose to be single, to be quite honest. Though it's hard, and at times, especially I think around the holidays, it gets triggered for me at least. But what are also some great things about being single over the holidays? Other than I don't have to,

I mean, I used to go all out with my ex-husband. I paid for crazy ass. gifts. Listen, you can come home. I have the best house. I have the best neighbors and I pay for it all by myself. Good for you. And whatever I want and I can watch whatever I want and I can do whatever I want. Amen. A lot of peace in that. And eat whatever you want. And whatever time you want. Yes. Walk her over the mask on. Whatever. Whatever. You can be in your pajamas. pimple patches. No one can say a word. If someone is coming into this, if they are, they have to be really great because it's going to take a lot for me to give up what I have right now. Why do you have to give up

what you have? Men are needy. Yeah, but then no, you're not, no, no, you remember we talked about in the beginning. We're two individuals, you know, coming into this thing, so-called relationship. Yeah. Yeah. I found that I will never. ever again. I will not. I'm going to, I'm going to be me and live my life and feel full in this aspect. And I will only ever choose to bring someone else into that if they add to it. Correct. But I'm just trying to think back to to Cheryl's question about like what are the things that like are good to be when you're, you know, why is it good to be single during the holiday? So you can eat what you want, drink what you want, wear what you want, wear what you want, wear the makeup that

you want, the fragrance that you want. Buy gifts for yourself instead of someone else. You can buy gifts for yourself. No one is micromanaging or. Also the in-laws, like not everyone has great in-laws or had great-in-laws, you know? It's like, you were lucky, Diada. I was lucky. I'm still really lucky. I really love them. Before we wrap it up, what are you guys both looking forward to this holiday season. What am I looking forward to? I moved out of my apartment into an apartment with my ex-fiance and back into my own a little apartment, which I actually love. It's like a hug. And to, you know, have our tree after things, you know, tomorrow, we're going to get our tree and just really just enjoy our holiday together and just do things together. And I told my daughter, I was like, I want to go

skating. I just wanted to, like, do, like, real things together. Like, not about shopping, but just, like, whatever they want to do. The movies, just do things that, like, make us a strong family. Oh, my God, I'm going to cry. I know. I wanted to cry a thousand times. I don't have kids. Hence why there's a dry eye over here. I'm just so happy to, like, be with my girls. And I am. I'm just, like, just be with, like, us and, like, not, like, you know, if the presence is not right or, you know, I just am like, I just don't want that. I want to just like spoil my kids and show them how much I love them and just wear pajamas with feet in them. Oh, you guys are such good moms. You want to adopt me? I'm just kidding. I'll take you. Send me your address. I'll send

you Christmas presents. Oh, thanks. My love language is not gift giving. It's like, no, it's not. It's, um, what's the one where someone has to like, clean up after? himself what's that called a grown man yeah right housekeeper um new year's yeah exactly my babysitter that's what i need for christmas what are uh new years what any new year's resolutions gals oh i'm not good with uh resolutions i yeah either me i think like actually i need to stop shopping i'm an addict hi my name is Cheryl and i'm an addict we know this but now i find it therapeutic to It's Black Friday right now on Amazon, just letting you know. I know.

I'm shopping for stuff for the kids. It's in, you should have seen it yesterday. It was box, like, it wasn't, I mean, whatever. It made me feel good, though, at the time. I think if I could just stop eating, that would be really good. Like, if I could just, like, no, we don't want you to stop eating. We want you to be healthy. No.

And by the way, you're like a professional cook. I swear, I was looking at your Instagram. It's me. I am, I said it before, but I am really, really grateful that I love my job and I love what I do. And I genuinely love to cook. Hot pockets. I, you don't understand. I was raised with hot pockets. So like. Hot pockets. I love anything between a pot pastry. Love me. Some hot pockets. See, I can make food, but I'm not sure if it's good or not. I feel like I am genuinely. Why don't you taste it?

What, taste it? I put Windex on it. You kidding me? I bake because I'm OCD and I am to the measurement. You guys are great for me to be around. I need to be around more of you guys, you guys more because like you're good for me

or a good balance. I need more OCD. I need more, you know, the nerdtrumdiana. I'm like, I know, like. Okay, I'll put. It's for Cheryl. Everything's going to be okay. Everything will be okay.

And if it's not, just numb through productivity. it works Let's see I'm not a big resolution Like I'm more of a solution kind of person Yeah that's my thing With my kids

I'm like okay We know what the problem was What's the solution That's what I tell them all the time So we know what the problem is From last year And I'm not married And I am moving forward

That's not a problem That's not a problem Yeah Wait wait We have the solution It's a blessing. It was a blessing. But this year, my solution for this year is to do more things that make me genuinely happy

so that like I went at the beginning when we were talking about putting on my safety belt just so that I feel happy and so that I can express that to other people. And that's what I really, really want because then I can be more productive and maybe a better cook, maybe a kinder person, maybe a better human. Maybe you'll just love yourself more and realize, you know what? I hate cooking, so I'm not going to waste my time.

Don't, don't do it. I'm just going to go over to Deanna's house. I want to be like, Deanna's starring. What can I make for me? Did you stalk her Instagram like I did? She made some, like, amazing hot pockets with, like, eggs in it.

Love. Breakfast hot pockets. Delicious. Oh, God, that sounds good. I'm just going to be over here eating stuffing until I blow up. So thanks to my single sisterhood. This was great chatting with you both. And we want to wish all of you listening a happy Thanksgiving and holiday season.

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