The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Home Sweet Home

Episode Date: August 20, 2021

Home is where the heart is! And since you’ve spent a lot more time at home lately, Ben and Ashley are teaming up with Jared Haibon and Dean Unglert to help you improve your space while you watch this season of Bachelor in Paradise. Bachelor Arie Luyendyk is joining in for some crucial home buying tips in an unpredictable time.Ben reveals a basketball injury that could effect his wedding!   And, we check in with Bachelor success story Peyton and Chris Lambton, who are experts in home renovation and interior design. Dean and Caelynn are decorating their new home and need some major help. Find out if Dean gets his lazy river! We’re here to help transform your house into your sanctuary. Because after all, there’s no place like home. So put your feet up and stay awhile! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And today we're going to be talking all about, like, home stuff. It's a special episode because we have a very special sponsor in Gap Home. So we're going to talk about, you know, buying houses, remodeling, decorating, all the things, because it's kind of relevant in all of our lives right now. Hello, boys. Hello, girl. I am a man right now. She just threw up so much macaroni and cheese, like two pounds worth. I'm not joking.

You didn't even see the bag. I did not see the bag. But I heard about what happened afterwards. I got to recap. Not good. Not good. That's okay. We're doing better.

We're doing better. How are you guys doing? Ben, how are you doing, buddy? I'm doing well. I'm happy to be here with you guys. This is a little bit of unfamiliar territory with me. I just want to make sure that I hold up to the standards of help I suck at dating during this show. It's tough. It's tough. But I think he can do it.

I don't know. You think he's got what it takes, Dean? Listen, it's not going to be easy. But Ben is the kind of guy that's going to put the work in, I think, to really just be on our on our level so guys i have to admit something to you right now i i blew my knee out two days ago and so uh i'm i'm currently in a pretty frustrated state in my life because i i think it's finally hit me that basketball and i may need to be retired which which really hurts my feelings you could be the prototypical guy that just sits on the outside of the three point line and just like i'm open i'm open baby you're like

Bill Murray from Space Jam. That's what your future... With a knee brace and elbow pads and a headband. That's my dream. And probably a helmet. Just in case. You never know. I was playing basketball. I went to a gathering of people in business and pastors in San Diego. And in the afternoon, they were like, let's play some basketball. So I got down there. They were playing a little more intense than I thought. So I had to pick up the level of intensity myself. grabbed a rebound just like makes me sweat telling this story actually grabbed a rebound dribble down the floor uh the court and a guy stepped in front of me so i went with the i was driven with my left

hand went with the left handed push to the side so i cut hard on the right kind of like a nice euro step in the middle of the court and uh the knee just popped and it dislocated to the side it was hanging and so now you know i already had tore my ACL and i've never got it fixed so i took towards something else in there. I don't know what it is, but when I stand up and I just let it hang, I can feel it separate. Oh, good Lord. Yeah, that's pretty good stuff. So how do we make this full circle? Ben will be on the couch for the foreseeable future, having his knee up, make sure he's resting. And speaking of couches, we're representing with the sponsor of this podcast, of course, is Gap Home, which is exclusively at Walmart, which is the timeless American

style for modern living. Ashley knows a thing about a two about modern living. She's a big modern girl. So am I. Am I? Yeah, we like modern things. We don't like that modern. Like you and I like modern, but not like really, really modern. Dean, is the, is the van modern? Would you say that's like a modern style? I, I wasn't ready for us to shift away from this Ben's knee conversation. I got to go back to this for a second. So Ben, why are you not recording from like the inside of an MRI machine at the moment. Like, why are you at home? Why are you not in surgery on your knee? What's going on? A few things going through my head, Dean. Thanks for asking. One is I have my golf club championship this weekend. So I'm trying everything. So I'm trying. Priorities. I get it. I can to wrap it

tight, put a brace on it and go tiger this thing to the end. The second thing is I'm really concerned boys and girls for a November wedding. And if I went into get an MRI, even though I don't have to schedule my surgery, I'm assuming they're going to push for that. And I just don't know when now in my life I'll be able to do that, which means ski season's done, which means I'm laid up for a few months. And so I'm mostly today in a time of contemplation. I already kind of was in a mental fragility state. I had moved past that. I'm getting a lot of clarity in life. So now I'm just kind of bummed today. So it's kind of sad.

I don't, you know how it is. Dean, you had a big injury. It kind of changes life a lot. I'm just sad. Well, I'm no medical expert, but I am pretty sure that if your knee is separating when you stand up straight, you probably need to have some sort of medical, like professional medical attention on that knee. But yeah, I mean, I don't envy your situation, man. That stinks.

Yeah, the wedding, you'll definitely be walking by then if you get your surgery in like the next month or so. You would potentially not be able to walk down the aisle if you have surgery soon. I mean, like after the golf championship, obviously. Yeah, there's always a cane, which I think is a solid move. Like, I think that I don't hate that idea at all. Walking down the aisle with the cane? Yeah. It would be pretty awesome.

Hey, Ben, this really, like, ties into the fact that you still want to be the host of the older person's bachelor. Do you guys know that? I'm really throwing my name out there in a very, like, non-quiet way. Like, hey, I'm here, and I would love. love to hang out. I feel like a cane can only help your chances there. Exactly. 1,000%. All right. Well, you guys, we are here to talk about home stuff. We have Ari Lyondike coming on to not only talk home stuff because he is a realtor, but also talk about his two newborn twins and how Lauren's doing. She was just recently in the hospital. And then we have

some HGTV favorites, Chris Lampton and his wife, Peyton, who have a weird bachelor story. They are a bachelor couple but a lot of people don't know about it um okay so let's go around the circle here and like talk about like what you're currently like what your current living situation is i think uh i can start here just to kick us off and then dean can go so um i bought a house that dean's been to i know in uh downtown Denver like uh eight years ago and so it's a small little house and so jessica and i when she moved out here decided hey we're going to start planning future and we were just looking at homes found the home that we love in golden colorado um and so it's where i'm currently sitting right now but the house was pretty much redone however we had like a few small

projects that we went to work on one was a back deck uh that we soon found out was going to be astronomically expensive during this time of covid because lumber is expensive so we kind of pause that but we did decide that we uh we are going to do our master bathroom and uh and if you follow Jessica's Instagram or mine at times. You can see this journey unfold. We started in February. We have great people working on the house. I hope they listen to this podcast. They are

insanely slow. It is. We're like seven months in and I had demoed the whole thing myself. And so I kind of cleaned it out for them, got everything out of there, got the plumbing all capped off and then thought, okay, they're going to come

in and they told us a month-long project to do the tile and and paint and put the flooring down. This is why I don't want to buy an older house and remodel. We're at month seven and we're still going. Now it's getting closer. There's a tub in now. There's a shower

in. We'll do the big reveal here soon because I know everybody really cares about that. It's really pretty. I like it. Jessica's been then decorating this house with a couple interior designers and it's coming together. Here's the problem and I'll stop here.

I think people out there can relate So our bathroom, you know, they're cutting tile. They're moving tile. I have random people in and out of this house at all times of the day. It's where I'm working from now. And there's dust everywhere. And you just can't keep up with it. Like it's just everywhere. And so we haven't hung pictures or anything because everything here is getting dusty. So the walls are still pretty barren. But we're in it. Like we are full on making a home for ourselves so that we're prepped and ready to go. That's where we're at. So we're kind of in this whole remodeling stage. And we need. We need furniture. We need all the stuff that you'd have in a house. And it's a lot bigger. It's like four times as big as my house in Denver. So like I think I filled one room here with like furniture. Hey Ben, fun, fun fact. Your guys's interior decorator is the same one as mine and Kalins. Aren't they awesome? The interior decorator has been incredible. So I haven't really worked very much with them. That's kind of been like Kalin's thing. But yeah, I mean, they seem pretty good. I think it's funny because Kaelin always wants to have control over everything that we're putting into our house. So, like, the interior decorator will come with, like, three really good ideas.

And she'll, like, use those ideas to, like, put her, like, make her own thing out of it, you know? She just, like, kind of needs, like, a launching pad. But, no, she's been great. And it's funny, too, because I'm sure our houses will look very similar decorated, at least, just because we have the same interior decorator. But is it, I've got a really awkward question to ask you. Can I ask it? Yeah, definitely.

Too late. You have to ask it now. Our curiosity will be the best of us. So I know you're in this house now in Golden, but before you got that house, was it weird living in the house with Jess in Denver? She never lived there. Oh, she didn't live there. It was weird. That's a good question. That's a fair question. I knew pretty quickly, like, because there's, like, you know, Lauren lived there. There was random stuff. Like, that was like, I, had not even noticed that was not mine that was sitting around or like even old pictures that had like been thrown in like one of the like um shelving like in like storage that like I just had no clue of um and so and it like had a lot of memories and I know Jessica like it was just like it was very clear to me and her like hey we need it something new because this has too much history and it has too many stories there's a show filmed from it like we needed something new so

It wasn't even a hard decision for us to move out. The sad thing is I hope Jessica doesn't mind me sharing this is up here, I moved a lot of stuff up here. And the other day, she's so sweet. I mean, I just love that girl. And she was sitting at the kitchen table. She goes, can I ask you a question? I said, yeah.

And she pulls out some, like, old pictures and says that, like, from like, it was like from a show that we did. Was it happily ever after? Question mark. but there was like pictures like promo pictures of it and she's like were you holding on to these like for a reason because i just want to know why and i was like oh my gosh i had no clue like where did you find these she's like they're in the tv stand i was looking for the cord for the tv i saw them and she was just like i could just see in her face like were you holding on these

i was like i'm not at all like please just like do what you need with these things and so you know this just feels like a new spot for us and there's still those things so yes we in short, we moved out because it would have been weird. Did you guys throw out those pictures? Sorry. Yes. Yes, but I did, I did, they were in nice picture of frames. So we kept the picture frames and threw out the picture.

Yeah, you got to keep the frames on. That's money right there. That's valuable. But yes, the pictures are redoing a house. You need to save. You got a budget. Yeah, they're not here any longer. We got rid of those.

Also, just to let everybody know that's listening, Kate, Susanna, and her husband, Michael are the two doing dean and i's house if you're ever interested in a decorator how do you have the same decorator in different states virtual it's all virtual virtual i think i think uh calen saw jess's uh like in spow board or something like that and she was curious as she reached out to jess right and jess got him in touch or something like that and it's crazy i mean i'm i'm sure everyone here can attest like i'm probably the one that can attest the least honestly like how much uh like nuance and like little design pieces go into a house before it really starts to feel more comfortable and like a home, right? Like, as a guy growing up, I would always just throw a couple

posters on the wall, make sure there's a big TV in the living room and, like, be done with it. But like, the way that Kaylin has been able to decorate the house that we live in now and, like, the house that we share in Los Angeles and her apartment before that, they really, like, the little things make such a big difference and stuff that I would never even consider. Have you had many decisions? Like, or is it, do you think it's, is it mostly Kalin who's decorating this house or are you putting your input in, Dean? I mean, I put my input in, definitely. I'll pick up little trinkets on. on my travels. Like in Mexico, I found like a sweet obsidian horse head. Uh, and it was like,

I don't know. I spent way too much money on it. But I was like, this would be really cool, like a good centerpiece. Uh, I got like this big chunk of wood. Um, uh, like the backyard design I've got a big part in. I'm sure Kaelin's thrilled. The only thing Dean brings to the table. Hey, I got you a horse head and a piece of wood. Dude, the horse head is sweet. I'll send you guys a picture of the horse head, but I really like it. And she says she really likes it too. So I I guess I don't. And it matches her aesthetic really well. So I'm, I'm keeping all that in mind. But, but no, she's like redone the closets and everything on her own accord. And she's mostly doing everything else. But I'll chime in when I can. Her big thing is like, well, I guess my big thing is like I'd rather build something than like spend five X the amount of money on like a prefabbed, preconstructed like bed frame or something like that. So there's like issues where I'll start a project to get like 60% of the way done with it and then like not touch it. for a while. So there's like a bit of a mess in the house in places. But that's like probably our biggest current issue. Welcome to the life of living with somebody. Well, hey, we do have some

experts coming on the podcast. As Ashley mentioned at the beginning, Ari Lyndeike, who's a realtor who flips homes, who understands the market, especially in his area of Scottsdale. And then Peyton Lambert coming on here, some just HGTV stars. They're actually in the waiting room. So let's bring them on. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot.

He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. It's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them.

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they're from HDTV, but they're also a Bachelor couple. It is Chris and Payton, Lampton. Chris and Payton, how are you? We're doing great. How are you guys? Thank you all. Good. All 15 of you.

You guys, how does it feel to be a bachelor couple and honestly like you met in the 2010s and yet i don't know that people consider you a bachelor couple because you met in a very unconventional way and give us a little bit of background how you met because honestly i didn't know that you guys were from the bachelor franchise yes so we met in north carolina at um jimmy v golf tournament jesse beck who was on my season of the bachelor pad was on chris's season of bachelorette and it was one of those things like Jesse and I became friends, and he's like, oh, you got to meet my friend Chris. We'll all be friends. And then he and I met and we got engaged and got married. So it's history. That's incredible. Yeah. So you got married in what year? 2012. All right. And then your lives kind of like skyrocketed, right? You're known then for your ability to make a house, a home. And the two of you have been working on this.

like within that world for how long? So our first show on HGTV was called Going Yard, and we had that in literally 2012. So 2012, we got our first show. We got married. We moved in together. I mean, a lot happened that year for us. And it was cool, though.

Like, HGTV reached out to him because the women in the office were big bachelor fans. They saw that he was a landscaper. They were like, we should have this guy in. And then I, like, conveniently made myself available when they came to shoot him. Yeah, she was like snuggle right up and she had her southern accent, you know, beautiful.

And they were like, oh, you guys, we should do the show with both you guys together. You know, it worked out well for me because I'm like, all right, I can dig a hole. I can plan something. I can't make anything beautiful, you know? That's what she comes in with like the pillows, the rugs, making everything like tie together.

So it was perfect. And so I'm curious what you guys think about working together. Now I know you guys are married, you have kids together. You work together. Ashley is pregnant. You know, a lot of the things that we do in terms of work, we do together. So how do you balance that? How do you balance your life between family, work, spending quality time together? Because I know there's a big difference between spending time with one another and spending quality time together. So how do you balance that? Well, first, congratulations to you guys. This is really exciting time. I'm over the moon for you to experience this next phase of life. Well, thank you. That's why I look so gross right now. No, you look amazing. So balance. Like, yeah, you know, you're together all the time. I think working together, Chris and I learned very quickly to stay in our lanes. You know, he does what he does very well. I do what I do very well. And we try not to cross over that line and offer unsolicited advice. But then. But now, like, when you throw kids in the mix, and like, Jared, that's great question. Because we're together a lot, we're with the kids a lot.

But then you still have to like now, especially you have to like make time for like a date night or to get out together because you need that alone time to, you know, connect and be with each other. And not talk about work or your kids. Yeah, I guess that's one thing. Your whole life is about working kids. Well, I guess that's what is there to talk about. Fair point. That's one thing I'm nervous about because there's other things that I want to still be able to do

as well. I want to hang out with my friends or go golfing. But, you know, with having a child, it's really going to change our lives. And, you know, we're going to put so much of our effort into our family and our work and that and also our relationship. I, you know, Ashley and I spent so much time together. But a lot of it, as she said, is talking about work. And I know once a kid comes, it will be talking about the kid and not so much us anymore. So that's why I was asking you to, how do you, how do you balance that? Because I guess in my, mind, you know, when we spend so much time together, a lot of it isn't quality time. And I think she gets frustrated with me because whenever I get a free moment, I'm like, okay, I'm going to go

golf with my friends. And she's like, yeah, but we haven't gone on a date. And I'm like, well, we spent the past three days straight together. And she's like, yeah, but that's not quality time. That was, you know, we were doing work things. And so I don't know, I wanted to get your piece of advice and tell me what to do. But I think even when we work together, it's quality time together because a lot of couples don't get to work together you know like some couples like you know i might work nine to five and then you know you would just be like two ships crossed in the night that's what my parents were like growing up because my mom worked nights my dad worked days so they barely saw each other so i think even you know today we're working together setting stuff up

it was work but it was almost like quality time because we were away from the kids we got to hang out we had like a lunch on the go together so even though it's not like what a typical date night quality time together is, I still cherish it because it's even, we're getting the chance to work together that a lot of couples don't get that chance. And, you know, we're fortunate to be able to do that, I feel like. Yeah, and I mean, it's just like you're entering this different

phase of life and I think you just have to embrace it and accept it that, yeah, things are going to be different. And your relationship's going to be different. Your relationship with your kids is going to be like this whole new experience that you don't know what's to come. But I think that if you guys can always make sure that you are connecting with one another, because those first few months with a newborn, like, you know, you're going to be sleep deprived. Just make sure you're, like, still seeing each other.

Well, one thing, too, that all four of these hosts have in common is we're all in a fairly large transition phases in our life. We're starting to become adults and act serious about life. And we've... Don't do it. No. No, we're, you know, just... Try my best not to... Dean's doing the best job right now, and I'm proud of him for it. But we're moving into new homes. We're starting to set up homes. I don't know if COVID had a little bit to do that with that. We're like, hey, let's just like start to settle down, put roofs of our heads, build a home for our families. But during the pandemic, we saw some problem. I mean, I'm assuming we saw some like themes change in terms of decorating and outdoor spaces for all of us. If you give us, if you give us,

some advice or some like trends as we start to develop our homes. What kind of trends are you seeing? You want to start? Yeah. I mean, I think that you have to look at your outdoor space is another room of your house. And through the pandemic, a lot of people realize that you have to extend beyond the inside of your house to make more livable space. A lot of people don't have big houses, but you may have a yard. You may have a deck. You have somewhere to go outside. So use it. and use it how you want to. You know, it's like you can see trends and you can see Pinterest and HGTV and what all these people are doing.

But if that's not what you want to do and that's not what your life encompasses, then, you know, just sit back and figure out how you want to use that space. Do you want to eat outside? Do you want to entertain outside? Do you want to play games outside? It's kind of, you have to tailor it to what your interests are. And I've seen during the pandemic is that, you know, patios, fire. pits, outdoor kitchens. I mean, people can't get enough of them in their backyard. People

entertain, be outside so they can still have friends come over, you know, social distance or whatever you need to do in a backyard, but it's a lot easier. And then people who have kids, like we do, like if other people with kids come over, the last thing I want is a lot of kids running around my house destroying stuff. Yeah. So everyone to the back. Yeah, get them off your lawn. Yeah. Get in the backyard. Get them on the lawn. Yeah. Yeah. So we have a big patio with like a we have like an oversized like dining room tables we can sit outside enjoy it out there a lot of raised planters and vegetable gardens because now people like to have their own you know place to grow their own flowers and veggies in the backyard so you've seen a lot that

people turn their backyards into kind of like an oasis where they can sit out there entertaining have dinner and then afterwards sit by a fire pit and have a glass of wine i've got a question kind of for everyone when it comes to uh more so like budgeting so like helen and i we bought our house but What I didn't realize was that was the first of many big expenses that were still to come with the house. Preach. So, like, how do you guys all feel about, like, let's say there's a certain upgrade you want to get and it's like 50 grand, but you could do like a smaller version of it for like 30 grand, but you'd be less happy with it? Caleb and I are constantly having the conversation of should we get what we want and just pay the extra money for it or should we be a little bit more frugal and still be happy with like a smaller version of that finished product? How do you guys all stand with that kind of like conversation?

you know, I do what you really want the first time around because you're going to end up doing it again. You spend $30,000 on something that you're like, man, then you're going to want to replace it. And you're going to end up spending more than the original $50,000. So even if you have to space these things out, like don't pull the trigger on something unless you're all in. We can I answer that? We have like, Jessica and I, because we were consistently getting, like we just didn't see things the same. way. Jessica is a lot more frugal than I am, and I'm pretty frugal, but she, like, sees the number and says, let's just not do it. Like, that's kind of her first response. I'm like, well, that's not

fully fair. We, we have to do something. So what we've done is we've designed our, like, dream home idea for the home that we're currently in. And we might not do it all at once, but we take steps to get there. So, like, if we're like, hey, one day we want to have a backyard with a waterfall and a climbing gym, okay, well, how do we start that process and not do it all at once so that it spreads out over time? And so it's less money up front, but we're not like changing anything as we go. We're just stepping towards it slowly. Yeah. That makes sense. My biggest thing was I really, so we just had like a big empty dirt lot in our backyard and I was like to Kayla and I told her I wanted a putting green with a chipping green with a lazy river

like surrounding it like floating around it yeah sounds like a fantastic idea to me i thought it was it sounds like a necessity we got we got a quote for it and it was like double what we had wanted to pay for our backyard renovation um anyways long story short i think what we kind of did was like we settled for like a small putting green to the side and then like a pool over in the so like we kind of compromise but i guess to whatever everyone's point is like i hope that we're not going to come back in four years and i'm going to be dreaming of a of a shipping green with a lazy river around it, you know, but I don't know. I guess time will tell in that case. I got an answer for you that Peyton and Chris can probably help you with. What you need to do is get on a television show

and you need to get the support of a show to help you. Yes, you still have to pay for it, but there's just, you know, there's some benefits there. So Dean, I feel like that's kind of the sell and the strategy that we need to start taking here. Hey, if there's any TV host, Chris Payton, you guys more than welcome to come and renovate our backyard for us. We're definitely keen to that idea. It's just a matter of putting ourselves in that position. You can title the episode Happily Ever After with a Lazy River. But I wanted, Dean, who's more frugal? You're a Kaelin.

Oh, I'm way more frugal than she is. That's not even a question. Oh, he wants to put a lazy river with like a mini golf course in his backyard. But if it weren't for Kailen, he would live out of the van permanently. Yeah. No, and Kailen is frugal, but she likes nice things and she's not willing to skimp when it comes to those nice things. She's got her standards, too. Like when we first moved into the house, our master closet, it's like this big walking closet.

And it was just like bare bones, basic. And she, like, first thing, she's like, we're renovating this. And she just spent a bunch of money to renovate it. And same with the, to Ben's master bathroom redesign, too. She's like, we have to redesign the master bathroom, which is like another. It's just so crazy how quickly it adds up. So if it weren't for me kind of like raining her back in, I think that she would already have a lot of that stuff done.

And I'm sure eventually it will all get done. because she'll get her way no matter what. But I'm trying to like, you know, rain her back in a little bit with a lot of that stuff. But that's a good investment. I mean, when you renovate a bathroom, that comes back like three-fold. So that's a really good investment. And the same of the closet. Like if someone's going to buy a high-end home, they want to trick that walking closet.

So that's good as well. You guys want to hear something crazy? Yeah. When we got this house, it's a great house in a great area and a great neighborhood, but it was built in 1989. and in the bathroom was the only thing that the previous homeowner had not done yet because she was knowing she wanted to sell and she's like I'll just let the next people choose what they want in here it had carpet from 30 years ago throughout the whole bathroom and so when I tore it up no oh yeah not like and I'm not saying just at certain areas

it was by the shower by the toilet and so when I tore it up there was pieces of previous homeowners that I shared with them that I don't want to do again. All right. Pay and Chris, we got to let you go here. Last question for you. Any advice for current homeowners, as would they enter into

this season of life where things are getting redone? People are spending more times in their home. And then also, if you don't mind closing that thought with where can people continue to watch you, find you, support you that are fans of you and excited to hear you on this podcast?

So for me, I think I think as soon as you start, you want to invest in quality materials that will last. I've seen a lot of homeowners buy some cheap decking materials or put in cheap stones or cheap lighting because they want to save money. But the long run, they're going to have to tear it out, redo it, pay for it twice, you know. So save up, do it right the first time, build off an area and keep building into your backyard or in your home the same way. so don't skimp because it'll come back to bite you in the end yeah and I think always get

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You know him from the Bachelor franchise. He not only proposed to one woman, but. Two on his season. What are you doing? How he introduced him this? You're going to get me into hot water here. Oh, no, sorry. I didn't mean it.

Ari, I'm just kidding. I love you, buddy. It's Ari Liding Dyke. Ari, how are you? Good, guys. How are you guys? Thanks for having me on today. I figured I got to break the ice with a joke.

I know, it's been too long. Last time I saw you, my friend, we were at a movie theater. It was the, um, the, um, the, uh... We're not going to remember the name of that movie. But it was with AJ. Oh. Appa. KJ.

Appa. J. Appa. The movie, yeah. Yes. And dude, that was the day that the NBA shut its doors because of COVID. And we were in like a movie theater with 300 people. And I remember all of us were like, is this going to be a thing? I know. Fast forward like two years later. Crazy. Unbelievable. But Ari, how are you doing, buddy? I am good. It is, it is chaos over here at our house. As you know, we have the twins. They are nine weeks old. And yeah, we are surviving. But we've turned a corner. I feel like we are getting the hang of it. Every day is getting a little bit easier, so it is, it's going good. Like, give us, like, a non-sugarcoded version of what a day in your life looks like right now.

Because I'm like, that is just, like, so intimidating to me, the thought of having two newborns and then a two-year-old. Well, I mean, I have, you know, when you have a lessee, she's two, and she's two and two and a half months old. So she's a bundle of energy, and then the twins are just kind of unpredictable. We try to keep them on the same schedule, but sometimes one's, like, fussy and crying and then the other one's sleeping and sometimes they're both crying like honestly the nights were just terrible for the first six to seven weeks and now finally the last two nights they slept through the night both of them and we feel like new new parents completely just because we have so much more energy and but yeah how's laura doing how's she feeling she's good she's um you know

getting back to working out a little bit and i think she's making some time for herself lately and yeah luckily we obviously both work from home so that makes things a little bit easier but it is I think with twins more than anything you need to both be on the same page and dive in and 100% make it the priority otherwise it's just yeah it's just too difficult so thankfully we have like a good thing going I think we have a good balance as far as helping each other out. Like if one of us is having a really tough day, the other one tends to step in and be a little bit more proactive and vice versa. So we've been, it's been really great. I think I already know the answer to this question, but judging by your answers already, do you think

your life, your and Lauren's life changed more after having your first child or after having the twins? That's actually a good question. I would say probably more after the first. Because we're already parenting a lessee. It's harder. It's definitely harder. Don't get me wrong. But, you know, when you go from not having kids and like traveling, well, now no one's traveling, but, you know, I guess pre-COVID traveling and sort of being very spontaneous and, you know,

being out and about all the time to having kids. It's just a totally different lifestyle. Now we're used to that. But the twins add like another layer on top of that. And our day is really structured because if it's not structured, it just like doesn't run smoothly at all. So we are like if I get to get out for like 15 minutes, 20 minutes or get a workout in, like you've like you're like so happy that you accomplished that in itself, which is nuts.

All right. Question for you. Obviously we're here today to talk about like homes and renovating homes and exploring the real estate market. You're deep into this. And you have been for a while. In fact, even as the bachelor, I think you told me when we were in Mexico together,

you went right back to work pretty quickly because you love your job. What kind of trends are you seeing, especially in your area, which is a hot market right now, like one of the hottest for new homeowners of all levels, like luxury homes, but also just your, you know,

just your nice, like first home kind of buys. Yeah. I think right now the inventory is picking up a little bit. I think we're seeing a little bit, I wouldn't say a slowdown, but more of a plateau in the market, whereas a couple months ago, it was a frenzy.

You know, if you had a buyer, it was so hard to find a house. Now I think it's a little, it's leveled out a little bit. I wouldn't say it's slowing down, but at least we're kind of catching our breath. And for us in the Phoenix market, we have a ton of people moving here from California, Oregon, gosh, Texas, kind of everywhere. We're the fifth largest city in the U.S., so we're, and we're growing really quickly. So for us, the market is still really hot, but I wouldn't say it's as insane as a few months ago.

Soon because we feel like we don't have a lot of space right now. Should we like wait till next summer? Yeah. Okay, that's the kicker. So yeah, no one has a crystal ball, right? You know, I think before the election, I told all my friends and I sold a lot of property myself. I was like, we got to get out because the market is going to slow down after the election. But now, interestingly enough, the government has printed so much money that inflation is going to start rising.

And the only way to curb inflation is to have assets such as real estate. The real estate inflation will fall the inflation rate of the dollar. So you're seeing a lot of wealthy people put their money into real estate right now because that's the only way to protect your money. If your money is sitting in the bank account right now, it's becoming worth less and less. so you're seeing a lot of people throw their money into real estate and the interest rates are so good right now so if I were you I would buy

like today let's buy the property now we're laughing at each other because that was probably the best advice we've gotten from anyone yeah I'm not talking about that was the best advice literally Ashley and I never thought of it like that when you were speaking Ashley and I looked at

the interim we're like uh oh we've we need to really change our thought process yeah hey why did I think you guys already owned a house Because we put a reservation on land Because we do want to build one day And we think it's the perfect lot But it may be

Like five years in the future Just because like everything right now Like we have so much going on We seem to people that would like Own a house You know Barried kids It's like they obviously own something

Nope not yet Well judging by what I already say Maybe it's time to buy like three houses Yeah there we go Or a lot of vans You know I don't know Are you in your band right now? That's where I'm

I am. The thing about the van is, while it is technically probably still a depreciating asset, I don't get any land with it. So it's kind of like a lose-lose in that sense. But yeah, it is what it is. You get all the land when you drive around and you get to see everything. All the BLM land belongs to me whenever I'm on it. So that's pretty nice, I suppose. But I don't know. I don't know if it was the best investment. Well, it was, it was, but not for not for inflationary reasons, I guess. Well, is that one of the reasons that you guys bought your house in Hawaii? And how often. do you expect to be able to get out there? So I think we'll probably head there for the summers. So when Lauren and I got together, she's like, I'm going to move to Arizona for you, but just know that eventually down the line, I'm going to need something near the water. She's like, I grew up in Virginia Beach, and I like to be by the ocean. So that was sort of a, like one of the boxes I had to check, you know.

So we fell in love with this house in Hawaii because we got married on Maui. And I actually have an investment friend who leases it eight months a year. So it cash flows itself. So first and foremost, I think it was a good investment. And then the bonus is obviously using it during the summer months to get out of the heat for Arizona. Very smart. All right. Well, let's dig in a little bit back to the family questions.

Because obviously Jared and Ashley are entering into that season of life. Do you believe Ari? that as people look for their homes, do you believe it's healthy for kids to have their own rooms, if possible? I mean, every family's different. You know, our twins share a room, and I'm sure they will share a room for a really long time,

or maybe a lessee and Senna will share a room the girls. And I think that's, it all depends on your situation. And before you go, I do want to ask you, first of all, I want to congratulate you on your beautiful wife and your beauty family. It's exciting times for you guys. and I want to ask you something that definitely nobody else has ever asked you before in the history of your relationship with Lauren, your family.

Are you going to guys, are you guys going to have more kids? I know you've never gotten this question before, but I figured, hey, if, you know, somebody's got to ask it. Yeah, I would say right now it's a no, you know, because we're in just in the thick of it. We're in that newborn fog. It's tough. Every day's hard. And I always threaten Lauren with a bisectomy like every day. that's a weird threat Ari like that's a really odd you're really losing on that end of the threat you're

like I'm gonna cut out I'm gonna cut it open I'm gonna go through pain for this that's it's an interesting tactic it's almost a threat to yourself yeah I was gonna say that feels feels hurtful oh yeah I can't even my buddy Troy did it he documented the whole thing on in school didn't really like show everything but he like went through the whole I don't even know but he was very open about it he said it wasn't that big of a deal. I don't know. I think whenever you have a baby, you have to wait like at least six to eight months after that baby's born to be able to decide. Because I feel like you have amnesia when it comes to, you know, having kids in the newborn phase. And then once you're out of that

phase, you're like, oh, that wasn't so bad. So once we're out of the newborn phase, I will make a decision as a family. And right now, as of now, I think we're good with three. Well, final question for you, or just final thing, we got word that you're joining forces with Tariq El Moussa. What's going on there, Ari? That seems like a big deal. Yeah, so a lot of you guys probably know Tarek from the show Flip or Flop. I actually met his ex-Christina, and we got in, and Tark and I got to talking. And we're joining forces. We're starting a group at EXP Realty. So I'm moving brokerages from remaxed EXP. I'm really excited about it. It's the fastest growing brokerage right now in the country. It is an

insane platform. It's basically a profit-sharing brokerage where instead of giving back to those brick-and-mortar brokerages that you see typically your coal bankers, your remixes, they profit share with all their agents. So if you're a producing agent, you make all that commission split back and then some. So it's really interesting. We're going to be doing a lot of webinars. We're going to be a lot of coaching. So if you guys want to join us, email me at Ari at Realti by Ari.com. I'll give me more info for it. But I think it's going to be really cool because it's not just an Arizona-based team. It's going to be a nationwide and even international team of realtors, all working towards the same goal, making that money and obviously having fun along the way.

Well, Ari, before we let you go, I got one more question for you because this is, this podcast is sponsored by Gap Home. Who does the decorating in your house? And what's the compromise situation there? Lauren does decorating. She has a really good eye for it. She did all the decor for the twins room, our rental houses, our flips. I think that is something that she brings to the table and really elevates us as a team together. So she definitely has the eye.

And I'm more of the numbers guy and selling and buying side of things. Well, Ari, thanks again for joining us, man. we really appreciate it. Please give our best to Lauren, and we wish you guys nothing about the best and have fun in your travels. Sounds good, guys. Yep.

Good luck with everything, Ashley. Thanks. All right. Bye. See you. Team, we did do this thing with four hosts. And just kudos to all of you for doing a great job. We have some great guests on this podcast.

But before we go, I know that all of us, as we've mentioned many times throughout the last hour, are either redecorating our homes, buying new homes, starting to decorate homes, moving into these homes and part of that is making sure that you have like the essential products that will make this house feel like a home dean let's start with you uh all of us are fans of uh gap at home you ordered some products through them why did you order them and what did you order

yeah well uh there's one thing i've noticed in our house that you can never have too many of and that is bath towels i don't know why but it whenever you need one the most it's always hard find. And so I made sure to order a bunch of extra bath towels for Caitlin and I for our house in Las Vegas. That way, we're never in the predicament where you get out of a, you know, a nice hot shower and you don't know where the towel is. So we also got some kitchen sets because I personally like to take my time to run the dishwasher. And so, you know, we don't want to be running low on anything in the kitchen. So we're set in the kitchen and in the bathroom. And that was kind of like the most important thing for me to get squared away. Dean, how many times do you use a towel before you

wash it because Ashley and I had this conversation last week and I want to know. I am sure you guys think my number's incredibly high. I would probably use a towel three to five times before washing it. No, two to two to four times before washing it. Oh wow. Maybe maybe I am wrong. Never mind. But I will say I so like I have my specific towels. Kailen has her towels and I'll probably like use my towel twice throw it in the hamper and then use her towel twice so she like we might be using that one like four times because I don't even know if she knows that I'm using it kind of thing um but yeah I would say I would say no more than five guys just pause here time out am I crazy but like I don't know if I'd be like down for Jessica to use my towel I love

that girl and like that towel is my towel Ashley and Jared can you answer this for us If, Ashley, if Jared used your towel, would you be a little bit, like, step off? My hairy body all over it. I'm sure I've used his towel before. It's, like, not a big deal. It's usually he leaves it really wet. Like, it'll be damp. What?

You're the one who leaves it wet. You get out, literally, I get out of the shower and we have a little mat. That's called, like, the mat gets wet, not the towel. My towel does not. So it. It's like you took it and put it in a bat. Okay, listen. He's referring to the fact.

to that since I've been pregnant, I've been keeping the shower door open because I like having a lot of air. It has nothing to do with how wet I get the towel that I dry my body on. Your towel is wet? It's Jared.

My towel. Even your mom when I talked about this on Instagram, your mom was like, no. Your mom is like, that is true. He does keep it his, he gets it from his father because I have no idea why Fred's towels always so soaked. Yes. Get out of here.

I'm sorry. I didn't know that you talked to my mom about my tollowing habits. She just responded. She felt passionately about this too. You posted about this? Yeah, a couple months ago. How did I not see this? Help me understand how this could.

How could a towel get more wet when it's like you're just drawing off a body? So how could it get more wet than a regular now? That's a good point, Dean, Ashley. I don't know what you do with your towel to make it so wet. Maybe you overuse the same area so many times. You need to like disperse the drawing through different parts of the towel. another really funny thing jared's has always been oh my god this is so funny when we first started living together i was like i don't know what the hell he's doing in the bathroom after a shower

because he would dry his body off like as if we were as if it were the car wash i'm a vigorous dryer okay i'm dry getting out of the shower and he like would like huff and puff he'd be like well this might be we're at to put up the explicit warning on the podcast what is he doing i'm like Oh, he's just drying himself vigorously. See, I knew as soon as she said that, everybody was going to have their heads in the gutter. Well, because I'm self-conscious about it and insecure about it. So now I take my time drying myself,

even though I like to get in, you know, once I'm out of the shower, like the door opens up, I start getting cold. I'm like, I'm not comfortable anymore. All right. How long are your guys showers? Because Jared, if he has it to, like, if he has the time to do it,

he can be in there for an entire 30. minutes. That's a long time. I would say 10 to 10 minutes. This is actually a Dean lesson for me. Dean told me that I'm into water conservation right now, especially living in Colorado. Dean has told me a few things in my life. And I love friends who will grab me by the collar and tell me when I'm wrong. One was I was using a plastic water bottle at the airport. Dean said, hey, Ben, as a friend, would you please switch to something reusable? And ever since then, I have. Dean's also told me we've talked about many times not to wear underwear. That was a big mistake on Dean's part because that didn't work out very well

for me. I'd no longer use dryer sheets because of Dean. I've pulled away from that. So I do listen to him. I don't know if he listens to me ever. Hey, back to the question though. Can you do have to go? Jared and Ashley, what did you order from Gap at home? We ordered a couple different things. I really wanted this Gap

home 16 piece round black stoneware dinner set. That's a mouthful. But I I love mugs. I don't know why. Very odd. So many mugs. I know, but that's why I always want to buy more. So I was really looking at that.

But instead, we got the Gap Home Washed Freed Edged Organic Cotton Quilt. And why do you think I got that? Because it's very beautiful and you love blankets and it's white and it matches our color scheme. Yeah. And our duvet right now, it's two years old or whatnot.

And like a month into having it, our dog ate a hole into it. So then we put a patch over it. It does not look classic. And it's like torn up because Lois has just bites everything. And we also got the Gap Home. What is that? Towel set.

Gray. Milnage. Milage? Well, the reason we had to get the towel set, even though it was on our wedding registry and we got some really nice towels is because something on what I use in my face totally ruined those towels. It stains the towels. They look like they're 74 years old.

But anyway, so we got a brand new set. They're gray. They're really cozy. Very cozy. As Dean says, you can never have enough towels. Well, team, I did a couple things. One is we're really making the basement of this home, the place that we want to be. And it's cool down there.

It's nice. It's comfy. And so we got a big old couch is the thing we splurged on. So I got some throw pillows for that couch, some nice blue throw pillows. They're going to be super comfy. I also loaded up on some towels because the thing is we have a lot. lot of guests that come through Denver, a lot of people moving through. And, um, in a lot of the towels, I don't know what it is. I don't know when it's appropriate to throw away a towel, quite

honestly. I have towels from when I was like five years old. It has Ben Higgins on it, Warsaw, uh, shark swim team. Well, you can't throw that out. You can't throw it out. I have beach towels from kindergarten, you know, the Aladdin and Java. Yeah. So like, there's just not a need to throw them out, but you do want your guests to have nice, fluffy, comfortable towels. So I went with some towels. too. They're really going to add to the home. I'm pumped about it. Here, okay, I have one thing that I really want for this house, guys, and let's end this podcast of saying one thing that you really know right now you need for your new home that you don't currently have. I need this. And if somebody could point me in the right direction, I need one of those tub things that go across the tub so you can

like sit a computer on it or candles or like a coffee cup. I can't find those anywhere. So somebody knows where. On Amazon. Oh, well, that way. I don't know. I don't. I I've never bought anything on Amazon, quite honestly. So I'm about to, I'm about to start. Caitlin has one of those. They're nice. What? You've never bought anything on Amazon? Never bought anything off Amazon?

No, I just, I usually like to go to the store. And so I'm making a switch in my life. I'm going to start buying things on Amazon because everybody tells me to. Well, Ben, hey, we've got one of those bathtub things. So if you ever want to come over and take a bath at our house, you can definitely borrow ours. The one thing that I need for our house is, so Kailen is responsible for decorating 95% of the house she gave me one room to like decorate myself it's essentially like my my man cave more or less you know um and what i really just need in there is just a this like a decision

because like i have all these ideas and i know what it kind of like what i want to do here and there but i don't know if there's going to be like flow and i really just need to decide so like it's not really like a actual product that i need it's more of just like a you know make up your mind sort of thing but uh that's that's that's all i really need i think ashley jared And we're the opposite. We need a whole other room for a nursery. Everybody is like, oh, my God, are you so excited to, like, decorate the nursery? I'm like, that's just very stressful for me because we do not have a location for it.

First of all, that's not how everybody sounds. Secondly, we do need more room. We have an apartment right now and, you know, adding another human being. That's a lot. Yeah. Well, hey, team, great job today. Thanks to Gap at Home and Walmart for helping support this podcast. for our guest. We'll be back next time. Okay, Ashley and

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