The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Home Sweet Hometowns

Episode Date: August 24, 2022

Ben is back from Wells Adams and Sarah Hyland’s wedding and he has some tea to spill! He takes us through every detail, including the 4 dress changes and every Bachelor Nation appearance. We catch up with Spencer Swies (who was eliminated early in Rachel and Gabby’s season) and find out why we didn’t see more of him on screen. And he reveals if we’ll see him again in Paradise! Plus, Ben and Ashley recap the hometown dates, which separates those looking for love from those on the show for “the wrong reasons”.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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but you can read about them, but it's Nick. Vile, it was Chris Souls. Chris Harrison was there. Long Gale was also there. Obviously, I was there along with Daniel Maltby. She is a friend of Wells's from Nashville, Courtney Dober was there, Joe, grocery store Joe. That was a big old list. I'm going to forget somebody. Oh, Caitlin Bristow, Jason Tartick. There's a lot of people. I'm going to forget somebody that I really love and care about. I really enjoyed my time with every person from Bachelor Nation that was there. I was kind of talking to Jessica about that. It's always good to have a reunion with people from the show and just have a second to get to know them a little better after I get to know these people better every time I go man I just I'm very fairly like these people uh okay so here's a deal

the wedding uh was just outside of Santa Barbara a little town called Solving Solving is a really cute town if you're ever up in that area to stop by it was at a vineyard one of the most incredible settings I've ever seen. The flower arrangements were spectacular. And I'm not a big, like, flower fan. Like, I usually don't even notice that stuff. But their flower arrangements were spectacular. The food, we had some miso seabass, which everybody was talking about. We had some beef tenderloin. The food was out of this world. It was the best wedding food I've ever had. A live band. Obviously, a lot of the modern family cast was there. Sean White, Nina Dobrever also there.

Jessica really loved getting to see Kalin. Kaelin was there from Bachelor Nation. And also meeting Debbie Ryan. Jessica really liked those two girls a lot. Spent a lot of time with them. Got to hang out with them. And so the setting was this. It was a three-day event.

There was a welcome party. There was the wedding and the brunch the next day. The wedding was what you would typically think. a wedding would be like. It was just like obviously a little bit kind of, it was definitely like the nicest wedding I've ever been to. And then that evening we had an after party. A lot of celebration, a lot of love. You obviously know from this podcast that I love Wells. Wells is a good buddy of mine. And it, you know, there are obviously tears shared just in celebration of the two of them. They've had an incredible story, a long engagement. They've definitely,

understood the meaning of being together through sickness and in health. They both are really special people for different reasons, but they both are, that their specialness, their uniqueness makes them an incredible couple. And you could just tell at this wedding that everybody was there just to celebrate them. Like it felt just like a big party, a big celebration. You can read all about it again in Vogue magazine. Also, I think People magazine were covering some things. But that's my experience. Jessica and I had a great time. We stayed out late. We celebrated hard. We got to be around a lot of Bachelor Nation and catch up with them that we don't always get to see in person. And then obviously got to meet some new friends as well. And we're just so happy. Jessica and I are

and the almost famous podcast celebrates. Saren Wells for finally being able to have their wedding for getting married and adding one more incredible couple into this world. So that's the recap of Welles and Sarah's wedding from what I know I can say, because I don't know all of the rules and restrictions to what I can and cannot say about the wedding. But it's also my experience from the wedding, which was something very, very special. Hi, Ben. I'm here. Thank you for telling us about Sarah and Mel's wedding. I just caught the end of that. It looks, it looked stunning. and her dresses were amazing, based on what I saw on Instagram.

Four different dresses she wore. Four? Four? Oh my gosh. Okay, well, I think I've only seen two. I have to go do look at some pictures, though. That is amazing. Wow. That's what like a real celebrity could do. Not almost famous, but like real famous. She can have four dresses. That's so amazing. Okay, well, I am here in Nantucket. I've got a high noon. at noon or are you in Nantucket.

My sister's fiance his family comes out here every year and because the travel time is like two hours

for me and Jared it's an hour drive and then it's an hour ferry ride this is the second time we've come up here

and just spent a day and I thought was kind of fun to have Dawson take a ferry and just kind of like get out

and like do a very New England day vacation before the summer is over in the summer here

winds down quick like at night i i almost have to go out with that with a jacket now and that really depresses me yeah that's be i've never been in tan tug it um but i mean it's going to be so the whole family coming out uh it's just his family and then then my sister okay and and me and there's like like six of us right now six seven awesome well yeah that's going to be special thanks for taking the time uh to sit down and chat about uh everything going on in bachelor nation obviously there's a lot. As I just mentioned, I just talked about Sarah and Wills' wedding. We also have Spencer coming on.

We're going to break down the episode today and then also do Bachelor headlines. A lot to talk about. So I'm glad you're here to talk about it with me. I don't know how I'd do this without you today. Oh, you could do it without me. I know you could. Now we're going to get Spencer on the line and then after that we'll do the episode recap.

But before we do have Spencer on, I have to say, can you think of his name without hearing Gabby say it? Spence. Spence. Spence. Spencer. Yeah. I'm doing my best. You're doing...

I got the yeah down. You got the yet down. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But you have to like nod really quickly while you say it. I wonder if when you say this to him if he would pick up on what you're

what you're referencing. You would. Of course you would. There's like imitations all over the internet. And I'm sure she's having a good time with them. Oh, definitely. I mean, I've really loved watching Gabby and Rachel. I've been fans of them since the beginning. And, you know, when you on this show, you always find your quirks. And then Gabby's is obviously the yeah.

Like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She's a good listener. She's an active listener. I guess what we could say is at least she's, you know she's listening because she's responding to the things you're saying, which is a good trait to do. It's just, it's just funny when you watch it on TV. Yeah, but yeah,

but you know it's the way she says it because I feel like I say yeah as much as she does, but it's because like she has just like a quirky tendency while she does it. Well, like her voice is also quite unique. She's like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Ah, that's so good. Hey, let's, uh,

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What's up, Spencer? Or as Gabby would say, Spencer. Yeah. She always had good greetings, course. I will always love Steve and Gabby. Thanks for joining us today. And there's so much to talk to you about because there's what I feel so little

of what we got to hear you talk about during the time on the show. But I obviously were recording this on a Tuesday, Monday night. It was your first episode without being on it at all. How did it feel to watch an episode knowing that you are no longer a part this season?

It was actually definitely less anxiety driven, I think. You always worry about what they're going to show, what they're not going to show. You guys have been there before, way more so than me. But it was also, like, a really great time for me because I got to watch my friends and support them.

I think we all, I don't know how much he was watched last night, but I mean, we got to really understand. Like, I know these guys because I spend every waking moment of them for, you know, however many weeks I was there. But I think with the season, and maybe we're getting kind of somewhat half of the screen time of the people who are on the show. So you guys and all the viewers in America got to see the people that I've known now for the past couple months and got to see their personalities more, their parents who I've, you know, either met or, you know,

we talked about while we were on the show. So I really enjoyed watching, even though I wasn't there because those are some of my closest friends now. And getting to see, you know, they've interacted with their families as well as obviously something I still haven't even seen yet. So it was great. Did you watch the show before you're on it? before like previous seasons is that what you're asking yeah yeah no i did i think um the first one i really watched was i grew up with connor saley from hannah brown season um yeah yeah i've been talking to quite a bit now um but i so you know our hometown kind of uh kind of all we all

watched right um to support connor and so ever since that i've been keeping up with the main characters right like after hannah brown it was you know p bweber and so i kind of been trickling down the line keeping in touch with the main characters and all that so um i love the main characters that's awesome putting it yeah i mean the main characters of the of the reality show but yeah no they um i've been keeping up for the past couple years so was there like a relation there as to how you got on like did connor help you out uh no i mean just with a lot of advice uh i was actually in the casting process for a different season um but that got put on hold for um a lot of reasons and so ended up working out for this this season specifically um and i'm pretty happy about that um just because of

i know it was a weird season but i really enjoyed my time there meeting gabby and rachel um and i think the guys i just kind of really got along with as well so i couldn't have asked for a better season and beyond can we can we dig into that a little bit you know obviously i mentioned before you came on in your intro that you've made some good friendships from the show you just mentioned you've made some good friendships from the show the the drama amongst the the cast, I would say, was very limited compared to other seasons this season. What about kind of the behind the scenes and your time with the other dudes did you find so enjoyable?

Like what was so fun about this process where some people get off the show and they're like, yeah, I didn't enjoy it. This wasn't fun for me. You obviously have a different perspective. Yeah. I don't know, maybe if you ask like Chris, maybe he didn't have such a good time. the season. But I think the rest of us, the rest of us, the rest of us did. And I'm not entirely sure just because I haven't been on a normal season. And we could probably go back and forth about

this, you know, comparing your guys experiences to mine. I just think that with there being two bachelorette, there was a lot more. The stress in the house was a little bit lower at first because, you know, there's not one girl, there's not one Hannah Brown that, you know, Connor and Tyler and Peter and everybody's trying to talk to. There's two. So, you know, you had more time with at least one girl up front if you weren't sure who you wanted to, you know, pursue. And that also opened up more dialogue between the guys, like, oh, like, you know, how was your conversation with Rachel? I haven't talked to her yet, you know, what she liked. And so all these things, it was just, it was a lot less stress at first. And so that kind of built up our

bonding from the start, which maybe dampened the drama later on. I'm not entirely sure, but I think that's kind of where the friendships kind of started to, started to bloom on our season. Did you have friends that went to the, quote, other side, the other team, and then you dismissed them? Like, they weren't around anymore? No, we missed, yeah, we missed them a ton. It was, it's, because they did when, um, they made it a point to be two separate seasons,

two different journeys and they you know they were right about that it really was on the boat we were in separate you know areas it was it was we didn't you know i think you saw we have like the social club and someone like i think the rachel camp had like a different name for their crew but yeah we weren't hanging out we only saw each other cocktail parties so um seeing that the rose ceremony cocktail parties they'll be like even what's up man like we're like so we compare notes and they're like oh you went to the you know the basketball court we were playing the other day so um it really was different seasons and it sucked having friends on the other side for sure yeah the uh let's get to the elephant in the room spencer obviously

uh bachelor nation knows you uh they got to watch you for many weeks but the thing i said last week on this show was we didn't hardly hear from you um all season and uh why was that are you more reserved and quiet do you not feel like you had those big moments like what was when you look back now what's your reasoning to why we just didn't get to see a lot of you i i'm definitely a little more reserved i wouldn't say i'm the ideal reality tv contestant um and for a lot of reasons i'm not sure um i don't know maybe just just where i come from um trying to remain calm and in stressful situations i definitely lost it once or twice but i don't think they showed it um know. I don't really know what it is. I think behind the scenes I was a lot, you know,

talkative, laughable, enjoyable. And I was just kind of worried about, you know, what kind of edit you might get or might not get. So that kind of hurt my journey with Gabby actually looking back because I wasn't as open or as vulnerable as I probably should have been or could have been. So that's why you didn't hear me for sure. And again, it definitely didn't hinder my relationship with Gabby because she was putting herself out there, you know, being the lead, you know like you you're you're giving it all out there from episode one so that's something i definitely should have done and yeah i'm just kind of like a more reserved call in person and i wasn't really acting up on the show a lot so i maybe executive producers didn't

didn't love that that i wasn't maybe being as talkative or honest as i could have been for sure i always say that it's better to be a listener and be quiet and then uh to be the one that uh is out there instigating so i think you did just fine my friend. Thanks. I appreciate it, pet. Everybody is wondering this week, Logan's, about Logan's departure. People are like, okay, wait. So the guys, they were fined out what happened with Logan. They were also like mysterious about it. And did he really have COVID or did the producers want him off the show? So do you know the truth? Can you relay for us? No, the internet's hilarious. I like, they have me now questioning myself if Logan had COVID, you know?

You guys have all these crazy theories. You see these memes of like that girl talking that guy at that concert. Hilarious. But I think, no, as far as I know and I'm aware, he had COVID because he had to quarantine on his, you know, on his like last couple of days out, they followed every protocol. So I have not heard otherwise. And in my experience, being there, he had COVID. We didn't see him.

We were actually pretty nervous. We retested into all that stuff. So if he didn't, I guess they're really kind of digging themselves in and they're not going to reveal if he didn't or didn't. But I personally think he did. But then why did nobody else get it? And how will you have gotten it? I don't know. Because if you saw that date, we were like on like the, we were laying down on our backs and Gabby was like going from one to another like maybe kissing a few of us.

I don't know exactly the issue of kissing or what. So when they were like, yeah, look at us COVID, I was like, oh, my God, we all have COVID. But I don't know. I don't know why. Honestly, I have no clue. I wish I knew, like, for sure, because the internet now has me questioning, like, everything else about the show as well. So you guys are hilarious, especially Reddit. Reddit's out there with some crazy theories.

Stay off of that. Don't get on it. He quarantined. He quarantined. Well, no one really talks about me because, again, we just saw I was on the show for four minutes over six episodes, which is wild. So I'm just there for the good times and to see the jokes some of you guys make. Not you specifically, but some of the people. Well, you get an upfront and very close seat to all of the happenings behind the scenes.

Now, you mentioned that you've made some friends on this show. Who have you stayed really close with? Definitely. I mean, for sure, a lot of Chicago guys, you talk about like Nate, Mario, Colin, and Tremaine. Beyond the Chicago guys, though, I think. Wow, it's tough because I really do feel like I'm close with a lot of them. I'll say, I mean, for sure, the Gabby side, Eric, Eric and I were pretty close towards the end there.

And Johnny was one of the most funny, like, people I've ever met. So I love Johnny as well, and I wish him nothing but the best. Maybe on the Rachel side, you know, Ethan, Avin, they were some good friends and I really enjoyed seeing them on the boat when we would run into each other um and you guys like you run into them i think because we had to eat in the that's where we ate in like the cafeteria on the on the cruise ship as well so sometimes like when you're being taken from like the room to um the cafeteria and you pass them in the elevator like you were that wasn't supposed to happen you're like pulling up and everything um so that was a good

break in our day but definitely those crew chicago eric av and ethan yeah oh well i want to ask you a whole bunch of cruise ship questions now, but I will keep it to Bachelor. Are you going to be on Bachelor in Paradise? Oh, I am not going to be coming up, but we'll see in the future. I'm still thinking about everything. And you guys, you know, you experienced it. So maybe I can ask you, is that something I should do? Yes. I never went. I've never been. Always say yes. Okay. That's right. Just Ashley, yeah, Ben, you to go. Yeah, Ashley, yeah, you liked your time. I, yes. It was the most emotionally, emotional turmoil I've ever experienced. It was so difficult. It was like going through emotion boot camp, but obviously, I have a husband and a baby from it. So I'm happy

I went. I'm not a 10 for sure from Ashley. Okay. Yeah. All right, no. Yeah, so that makes you want to go even more um no i uh i think it's a great time from what i've heard most people actually have said you know the exact same thing as you um you have so i i would love to go and if it works out i would definitely love to go for sure um i think you know it would maybe open me up a little bit i think we just talked about how i'm quiet um and it would but it would be good for me to push push my uh emotional emotional boundaries for sure on on camera We love to play this game, Spencer, and you're going to love it, too. Okay.

You just mentioned that you're interested, or at least you're open to the idea of Paradise. If Paradise started tomorrow, knowing what you know about Bachelor Nation and not knowing anything about what happens during Paradise this year, who is somebody you would want to take on a date in Paradise from Bachelor Nation? Oh, boy. Wow. you're really putting me on the spot here I asked the guys I was like I should have anything prepped in there like no just going it's fun you guys are good no no hard questions

um wow I don't even know yes you do you seem very educated you seem like you know the franchise pretty well all the main characters I don't think there's like one girl out there who I'd be like oh no I wouldn't go on like every you know the past couple of bachelor seasons I've watched like nine of every 10 of the girls are like wow she's adorable and hilarious and cute

Like, why would I not want to go on a day with that person? I think from Clayton's scene is probably the most recent one that I would, like, riddle the name. So I thought, you know what I really thought was just super sweet, was like Teddy? She was super sweet the whole season. I would really like to get to another. Just as like a person. Her, well, I'm trying to go back.

I mean, that works. You said Teddy. I mean, we're Teddy fans here. We didn't see a lot of Teddy. you know after really the first week of Clayton's that was kind of a weird like she was yeah yeah out of the gate you know everybody was talking about and then things kind of fizzled out i don't know what happened there teddy would be a great choice uh spencer i'd love to make that happen for you hopefully next year she's on the beach hopefully you're on the beach and you guys are

able to go jet skiing in in mexico that'd be really sweet yeah that would be a cool date for sure. I think I've reached my limit of dates with dominatresses in Amsterdam, I think. Oh my gosh. We were talking about that date last week, of course, and we were just like, you know, we don't always love group dates and we don't always love overtly sexual dates, but that one was pretty fun for us to watch as an audience, but we felt really bad for you guys. No, it actually, so it was a super strange day to walking on. And I think some of the memes about me were like so funny because I was like what the like what is this like what is going on but it actually ended up being fun because we got to like at least show the audience some like

personality and for me as someone who's like pretty non-talkative that was fun for me to watch back but yeah it was it was a lot of interesting group dates are are never perfect so I think jet skiing in paradise would be a little bit a little bit more intimate or enjoyable, especially with someone like Teddy who's just like adorable and just seems like a really sweet person. That's, you know, something I would enjoy. Ah, well, I'm wishing that you were there. I wish you were there too, man. Hey, Spencer, it's really great to have you on. Thank you for giving us your time. I know that you're around a lot during this season. We were excited to have you on to get to hear more from you. We hope to see more of you

in the future but until we get to do that until you come on again thanks for coming to almost famous podcast it means a lot dude of course thank you guys you guys are super amazing i appreciate everything you guys do everyone i've talked to is like oh my god they're the best you know x-y-z so you have a bunch of fans within the community so i thank you that means a lot that's gonna make my day i know um yeah please come back and give us all the details about the cruise ship and all the other things that you weren't able to say today. Of course, of course, Ashley. Thank you guys. See you.

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He's not super into it. I haven't felt like he's into it all season. You don't think that he's been into like Gabby that much? No, I think he is. I don't know if he knows how to express that he's into it. I said that I think after their first one-on-one where I was like, maybe everybody here is seeing something I'm not, but I just don't see it.

Like, I think he's probably a great dude. And I think they have some chemistry. I just don't, I don't see like the, uh, the flirtation that you would expect when we're at home town. No flirtation. Yeah. I feel no chemistry. I would, I feel weird about this because when they were together in France,

loved him thought that he was, the front runner and then all of a sudden I felt nothing with his hometown he um he seems like he's a nice family I that that house was really opulent and fun to look at but that was my biggest takeaway that and the fact that his mom is the absolute opposite of your typical bachelor mom she was like oh you're not ready to get engaged but I want you to get engaged She was a girl tomorrow. It was hilarious. And it made me think this mom is a bachelor fan mom.

She signed him up for the show. Now her son is close to that like pinnacle final rose. And he doesn't really care about it. And she's like, no, you should care about it. I want you to be happy. Oh, yeah. Well, it was fun to watch. Like you said, it was a good family.

New Orleans is always amazing. Don't see the flirtation between the two of them. definitely wouldn't put it up there in my top hometown date. So let's move on then to Zach's hometown, which took place in Anaheim. Zach's hometown was nice. It was probably with Rachel, obviously. With Rachel, yes. Zach's hometown, to put it briefly, was probably the family that you'd most want to meet out of all the families we saw today. The family that like it went according to ideal plan. I'm going to go meet the parents and it went quite smoothly.

They're very warm. I feel like they're warm. The dad was a little intimidating, but I think overall, like they accepted her. Yeah. I mean, I think that's a, I mean,

I would say this, the beauty of hometowns is the uniqueness of each family. And so some people might see, for example, and we're going to get to it, like Tino's family and be like, wow,

that was really bad. You know, and every season kind of has the, the family that doesn't enjoy the process and doesn't enjoy the idea of what's happening. I actually like it and I respect it to the point of where I'd say, yeah, smoothness is cool, but it's not, one, it's not great viewing pleasure. And two, we don't get to learn as much about the family as maybe I would ideally want.

We didn't get to learn as much as this family because they weren't, they didn't have like as much of an in-your-face dynamic. Yeah, I'd say that. Yeah. I get that. I totally understand that. But they did have a cute pre-date where they went and they watched the airplanes. I think that really kicked it off for me.

Yeah. I think this guy, Zach seems like, this is just a prediction on my part. Seriously, guys, we are not spoiled. I haven't been spoiled for seasons and seasons. My prediction is that they're really setting him up to be the heartbroken one, kind of like a Blake Hortzman. I feel like he's probably the one that she should pick in the end. And I think she's going to pick Tino, even though it seems like Zach, in my opinion, is way more genuinely invested.

I'm a Zach fan. I'm on Zach's team. I agree with you. I'm on Zach's team now, too. I think what he's showing is that, one, he respects his family, that he respects Rachel, and that he also has this creativity around wanting to have these experiences with Rachel that will be memorabil. and meaningful and he's going out of his way to do that and so i do i'm i like zach a lot well gabby has her next hometown it's johnny's hometown johnny's an interesting character to me it's in palm beach florida but he's kind of one that snuck up just to share my thoughts he snuck up on me i can't quite fully read him but he obviously has gabby's interest but he kind of came out of nowhere for me. I think

she's really physically attracted to him. I think they have good, like, fun, flirty, physical attraction banter and chemistry. I don't know that they're, like, they're not, like, long-haul people, and I think we kind of, like, got a preview of that. Like, he's basically says to his parents, like, I'm not

ready to get engaged. I'm not going to get engaged now. And he made it seem like, it's not even like, it's not even like he was like, it's not her. I feel like, okay, feel like he's not sold on the fact of being with Gabby long term. Not sure if he's sold there. And then I know he's not sold on getting engaged after such a short period of time. And his parents are actually, again, like Jason's parents, like, they're kind of encouraging him

to go for it. If he feels, if he feels like it's right in two weeks or whatever the amount of time is that they have left, they go, you know, I think you are. like mature emotionally enough. Financially, you may not be, but that's something you can grow together. That conversation really stuck with me. Yeah. Financially, just get engaged. It's going to work out.

Don't worry about it. There's things that can happen. No, I mean, his family did, I enjoyed his family dynamic. I loved his family. Yeah. There was this back and forth and there was this kind of like you'd hope in a parent where you express one thing and they might. not agree with you.

And so from a loving place, they kind of tell you what they are seeing. I think we got that with Johnny's family. And I enjoyed that kind of dialogue. He's still up there for me. I mean, I don't know how long this lasts. But there is still this. I would put him above Jason now.

Me too. Me too. And like if we had to rank him. Yeah. So. I wouldn't last week. but now after seeing the hometowns, I would. And I also just want to say about Johnny's family

and just the conversation that he had with his parents was the first time, perhaps, or one of the very few times that I've watched, you know, the contestant talk to their parents and feel like this feels really authentic. This feels like there's a hidden camera going on. There's nothing like over the top about it. This really seems like a conversation,

a serious conversation that I would have with my parents over dinner. and it would be on air and I wouldn't have even known it was filmed. I just really, really liked the vibe there. Yeah, I'm with you. I don't disagree with anything you just said. The vibe of this hometown felt very, very hometown-ish

on what you would expect and want and need. There's a little drama, there's a little intrigue, but then there's a lot of love. Well, speaking of drama and intrigue, we have Rachel's hometown next with Tyler. this one was very unexpected. It was in Wildwood, New Jersey. I didn't see this coming. Ashley, what am I referencing here? You sort of saw it coming because last week we thought it was super

weird that he didn't have a one-on-one and he was going into hometowns and meeting a family. Why bring him to hometowns then? I don't know. But anyways. Yeah. Lo and behold, we see that he doesn't actually, she doesn't actually meet the family. They go to Wildwood. which is, you know, basically like a fair carnival area on the Jersey Shore, you know, a boardwalk. And he owns one of the games there. So obviously he has a big community there. He plays the games and goes on rides with her. It's cute. You know, it's a cute lead-up. It's a great day date before going home. And of course, they have the cameras waiting. Yeah, but he's so into it. I mean, out of anybody so far, it feels like Tyler is sold out. I know this is.

my wife. I'm all in. Let's go. He says, I'm not just falling in love with you. I am in love with you. And Rachel is like just cringing. She goes stop, stop, stop, stop. Heartbreaking. And damn, did he handle it like the ultimate gentleman? Like, could he have been more perfect in that moment? No, he did really well. I thought he, I mean, I think he's probably, he didn't even ask acting fairest, which is probably how I would have acted. Yeah. Or like, just like, no, never mind.

I take it back. I didn't really mean what I said. I don't know what I would have done. But he just took it in stride. And then, gosh, dang it, Ash. I mean, son of a biscuit, his family, his family was so hyped. And it was like, that was hard for me. I did my awkward, like, I can't watch the screen.

I've got to walk away. because it just was so hard for me to see how happy they were. And they wouldn't let the poor boy get a word out. I know. He is just a sweetness. And my biggest takeaway from that date was this guy is going to be totally fine. This is not even the kind of guy that I worry about taking Bachelorette fame and becoming an F boy with.

I think he just wants to find somebody to love. And he seems to use a Ben Higgins word, just so lovable. He is lovable. And he lives in Wildwood, New Jersey. He's got to be the most eligible bachelor in Wildwood, New Jersey now, right? I mean, I don't even know where that's at, but I mean, he's, I mean, think about what he can offer you in life. You can always have a good time. You can play any game you want. You can ride, ride, just nobody else there. And he's good looking and sweet. He's so cute. Yeah. But, oh, that was hard to watch. His family, I just, I kept, I yelled at this screen. I kind of do this. I have the reactions. I was like, let him talk. Like, let him talk. He just has to tell you, you're, you're taking the knife and you're stabbing it in a little farther every time you're like, Rachel, and they're like, ah, Rachel. But then he had, like, such incredible patience in that moment, too. Now, and there is something to be said, Ashley, because hometowns are wild and weird and wacky.

There is something to be said about how the, the contestants navigate and communicate with their parents. it's also like you can see a little bit of their character behind the scenes yeah and i you could tell there that his character is strong like he he obviously was not happy he was probably a little upset with his family but he just let it happen and then he was like hey just let you know this is what happened and then there then they all reacted well but i really was impressed with him speaking of a man with character our next home date hometown date was with gabby and it's it's with eric eric's hometown uh she is in new jersey as well this um yeah this is this hometown obviously there's going to be a headline here in a bit

um but just so everybody knows eric's father did pass away just a few weeks after this hometown date um which brings the gravity of this date in this moment and having it recorded uh i feel like um to an ever it brings it to even a more real level a heavier level than already was watching but this I mean actually I know I'm kind of like having a monologue here but what I found out

you know that I can't speak about things like this I just I feel it and I can't put it into words that's fair he seemed like such a sweet sweet man you could tell that he was struggling yeah you could obviously see he was struggling

you could see the other family rallying around him and Eric their excitement for Eric. The thing that also here I didn't want to just go unspoken is that Eric has been on this show doing the best he can, investing them as much as he can, into this relationship with Gabby while at the same time knowing his dad is at home. Now, some would say, like in past seasons, right, how could you leave him? I'm sure his dad wanted him to go.

Like, I'm sure his dad said, like, you need to do this. like you need to continue to live your life you don't know i could be around for the next 40 years i could be around for the next year you don't know this and so let's not judge eric for leaving let's give him some um i don't know if the word would be grace or just understanding on what his position now has been through this whole experience uh it's had to be heavy on him it's had to be on his mind yet he has done the best he can to try to still find love and i'm i just i want to give him kudos for that i mean i left when my dad was a week at open heart surgery for my time on The Bachelor, it's really hard to be focused in the midst of that. And so yeah, I'm impressed with Eric. I guess it would

be how I sum all that up. Me too. There was definitely a feeling of strength at that hometown date and such a also a feeling of like importance. Like you knew that moment. wasn't like a TV moment for them like that was such a real life moment and every moment at that point that he had with his son and he had with his dad counted so much um that like every time I'm sure they're like this could be the last time that I'm seeing him um I don't know I obviously again I'm having my speechless moment but it's just it was a really that was just like a moment It's a moment that I'll remember watching. Yeah.

Being speechless over this is really okay. And I think many people will be speechless. And that's why, you know, I guess I did. I wanted to show, I wanted to say like, hey, Eric, Eric was in it. Like, this is real life. This is one of those. And we haven't had a lot of those this season, but it's one of those where real life kind of comes into contact with the show.

And it's no longer, like you said, a TV moment. And it's, we have to, we all have to sit back. and understand just how, what was happening, the sacred space that was existing in that room, knowing that his father was really sick and knowing that his family was all there. And just, yeah, what was being said and not said in that moment, you know, to protect his dad and protect Eric,

but it was heavy. And but also, I want to say it was very special because I think they grew, they grew closer together from that time. I do agree. Like I didn't really want to say I think along those lines either,

but that is how I felt. It's, it just feels like his dad is going to be like really watching over him for what he's going through right now between like the show and whatever the after facts of the show are. F cancer.

F it. I don't like it. nobody does sucks and so many of us have had personal experiences with it

that have affected us switching gears now to the final hometown date which was Tino's obviously this was going to be held

to the end because it was the most controversial the most confusing we always have a date like this every

season. I'm going to say some things there about this date, Ashley, that I know I'm going to get a lot of backlash for, okay? But this happened in Santa Clarita, California. I again, and I've messaged Tino. I like Tino. Like I do. And I think he has been a fan of the show coming into it, which is even more confusing to me on why his hometown date went the way it did, because I know his family has watched it. Like there's videos of them watching it together. I don't understand what was happening than in this environment. I think Tino is very into Rachel. So I will put that and say,

I think he just really, like, actually likes her, believes that it could be his wife. But I would say this is two weeks in a row where Tino has been, hasn't had his best weeks. And I say this, and this is where people will probably get upset with me, I am confused on why his family was so against the process, considering they knew what he was getting into

and they're fans of the show. I don't know where that was coming from. They would have to explain that. But it was his dismissal of his family's opinions that I felt like maybe rub me the wrong way. Tell me if I'm wrong. Tell me if you disagree with me. But I felt like he almost was like, unlike maybe Johnny's fan, like Johnny's reaction, he just wasn't listening to what his family even was trying to say.

Am I wrong? You're not wrong, but there's definitely just like different family relationships. like my family is so close you know close close close can't get much closer and we talk to each other like if you heard the way that we talk to each other sometimes you would think you hate each other yeah like if you remember one time I got on here and I thought that Lauren took my SD card and I go Lauren to my SD card that's stupid bitch and I literally sound like angry at her but like then I told her I go Lord I got on the podcast and I called Lauren, like I said, I called do a stupid bitch. And I think that people weren't used to the fact that that's how we, like, talk to each other. And she would, like, laughed, you know? And, like, my dad tells me all the time, he's actually, you're putting the ass. You know, stuff like that.

So I can, if it's that, then it's that. Yeah, that's fair. That makes sense. Not everybody has to be, like, so polite. You have to know the dynamic. Totally. Okay. I am more puzzled now that you brought up the fact that they're fans of the show.

and now again I'm worried about him just wanting to win to win because you know that that's been a concern of mine the past couple weeks and I know that he's been a fan but like somehow I'm like putting it together now and like that final rose is something that he's like watched for years which is obviously not unlike so many of us um I don't know why he's giving me F boy vibe so much guys again like I said last week it's not something I want to feel towards him but I am there's like something there I can't fully trust he his dad did say something on Instagram or on Facebook a couple

weeks ago this just came out you know Bachelor data so he wrote a couple weeks ago like tino a suitcase had more air time than Tino did this week he wrote that as a Facebook status and he goes, I don't know who goes around recording data like this, like some nerd, but the data's out there. So that just makes me feel like the family is sort of, okay, I'm totally like kind of making up a storyline and being a little dramatic here, but I'm just, you know, I'm creating a podcast, creating thoughts, okay? What if like they really just were obsessed with having Tina get as much airtime as possible?

And maybe them being fans, they kind of knew how to ruffle feathers and to get some good airtime on the hometown. I don't know. I'm telling you, I don't know that that's true. I don't even think that's true. I'm just saying things now. Well,

here's what we do know. We know they're fans of the show before Tina went on. There's been videos of them watching it together. Which to me is confusing on why then the reaction was the way it was about how upset they were that they were at this place.

I don't know behind the scenes and none of us do. But like Ashley said, she's creating a thought. This is what's going through her mind as she is playing back kind of what just happened during this episode

but it is confusing for me this was definitely not the hometown date that either Rachel or Tina wanted and then it also seems like it wasn't like the family didn't even want a hometown date like for Tina to show up and be like hey I'm really into this person

like they were against it before we even walked in it felt like and I mean my parents were you know super weirded out that I was claiming that this was going to be, you know, my partner after the show and that I was bringing these girls to meet them. But, you know, they were weird out by it. I don't think they enjoyed the idea of it. Obviously today they don't, they still, they don't enjoy the idea of it. But they at

least like gave the space to be open to it because they knew that's what I was doing. And they trust me with that. And I felt like here they just weren't into it. And I don't know. Did it remind you of the date that you had with Jojo and her brother? Yeah, probably. Yeah, I probably had a little bit of bad memories from that. Yeah, no, you're right. It did. I mean, it's just a weird environment to sit in where you're like,

I don't know how to explain to you, you know, why we're sitting in front of you today other than the fact that we're into each other and we're trying to figure this out. I don't know how to, I can't, like, explain away the show. I can't tell you it's going to work or it's not going to work. And so I don't know what kind of answers you're hoping from me today. Like, I don't know how to give you. answers without just telling you a bunch of fluffy things that sound nice and get us through

this evening. But yeah, putting me in a corner doesn't help. That's kind of how I felt. And I think that's how I felt watching it was, you know, Rachel's getting there being like, hey, I'm really into this guy. And I potentially want to be engaged to this man. And by the way, his family has definitely made it clear not into it. I don't know if that's how you want anybody to leave. Well, Tino seemed to like, you're like, no, everything's fine. They love you. And she was like, no, no, no, no. Yeah, that was weird to me. Yeah, that was weird to me that he tried to do that. I mean, that was like, uh, I think he was trying to save face and trying to make it like so he slept better at night. But yeah, that was a weird. I mean, if that's how they show like their love

and support, then I would have other questions. I don't know. The more I think about this, the more I'm thinking these people love the show. Maybe they talk to producers beforehand. They were like, you know, put some ideas in their head. And then they're like, yeah, let's roll with this. Oh, goodness. I hope not. Well, next week we get Avin's hometown date in the Mentel All. We're looking forward to Avin's hometown date.

That's all we got for this episode is hometowns. Most of them, not all of them. Again, Avin is next week. Mintel All is next week. And, yeah, I don't know. I mean, Mentail all feels like it's going to be a little bit calm. Oh, you know, I hate men. Yeah, I know.

There was no fighting here. Why even have one? Skip it. Skip it. All right. Hey, Ashley, we got Bachelor headlines to roll right into. We've talked about a few of them already. Obviously, Wells and Sarah's wedding was incredible.

I have some amazing stories that at some point on this podcast I'll share from the wedding, but I want to give Wells and Sarah the space to show and share everything they can from their very special day before I give all the little, like, details and the funny moments in between, okay, of the people that were there and some of the awkward run-ins. But Jessica and I did have an incredible time. And Bachelor Nation did come out to celebrate with them. And we are excited for them, as they now officially can be a husband and wife, which had been waiting for for years. We also, you know, I just want to again say, hey, Eric, if you ever listen to this podcast, we're thinking about you and your family, your dad, showed courage and strength and grace during this episode. It's all I've ever been able to see of him.

It's all Ashley's been able to see of him. All a lot of us that watch his show have ever been able to see of him. But it was a special moment watching that dynamic in that hometown. I know it carries a lot of weight. I know, well, it was probably hard to see over. But your dad was a courageous man from what we saw. And so take that for what you will. But moving on then to the headlines we haven't got to talk about. The Bachelor Clayton and also his contestant. Are they engaged? His contestant. His girlfriend. His girlfriend. No, they're not. Susie are no longer living together. And they're going to do long distance. They're going to live in different states, which is not what they told us when they were on this podcast.

So this was like dramatic online, but they claim it's not really dramatic. So they did move to Virginia together. Clayton moved there for her. And then on the podcast, they alluded to being open to moving other places. Well, they are going to move back to where he was living, Scottsdale, Arizona. But while they're getting that house together, they are going to, they're going to, they're going to be a little bit apart. Clayton is going to be in Arizona and Susie is going to be in LA. They said they also are only 50 minutes a flight apart. They're both chasing their dreams

and it's a commuter but for right now that's going to work for them. And what I read, it was mostly it was mostly about them like settling eventually. in Arizona, and not so much going back and forth, but according to this article from people, it's looking more like it's a long-term, long-distance relationship. Well, we want them to be happy because they seem like they're supportive and caring for each other. And so long-distance doesn't mean it's bad. I mean, my wife and I did long-distance for a long time. Many of you listening have done long-distance. I don't know if it's ideal or not ideal. It works out for us. It works out for many.

So maybe it's going to work out for them. But we want them happy because they seem great together and we really like the two of them together. They've been through the ringer. I mean, they've been through a lot with each other so far. Well, Ashley, the final headline today is really about Nate Mitchell. He's still making headlines here even since his departure from the show. We have articles and headlines here about people threatening to not watch the show

if he's the bachelor. We also have people then here saying, hey, we want him to be the bachelor. That this is unfair for people to still be talking about the way, you know, this situation went down where one person on TikTok kind of said that they're dating Nate

and he didn't tell him about his daughter and that he's all dating other people at the same time. He has a quote for it. And you can break down anything I didn't say there, Ashley. He said the reason that, you know, people didn't meet his daughter is because you have to get through a king to get to the queen is a quote from Nate Mitchell about this situation. And he set this message to Will Smith's,

just the two of us. It was pictures of them, daughter, and father in front of Cinderella's castle. And, yeah, just basically denying the first. fact that Nate ever cheated on the girl who we discussed last week she claims his ex claims that he was

DMing another girl during the relationship and that she learned about him having a daughter on TV even though they dated for a year and a half that it's obviously a big deal but people are

rallying to make him not the bachelor people really don't want him to The Bachelor after all these rumors. It is a little tidbit here. Dustin, Kendrick, you know, Peter Weber's bestie. He is longtime friends with Nate and he says, first off, let me say this, Nate is not an angel.

He's not a perfect guy. But I feel like you don't go and try to tarnish someone's name because a relationship didn't work out. It seems childish to me. So who knows what ever happened there? but I would say that this is enough speculation in the hardcore bachelor community

you know the people that spend a lot of time talking about it and researching on the internet that he won't be the next bachelor and because of that because he seemed to be a frontrunner for next bachelor with this cast of guys people are starting to think that

Greg Grippo might be the next this guy's name is just going to keep popping up until they make him the bachelor He's just got a lot of fan support behind him. Yeah, I saw that. I wouldn't be shocked. I wouldn't be surprised. He'd be, you know, if somebody said, and we'll do an episode where we kind of break down,

who do we think will be the next Bachelor. He'd probably be at the top of my list on who I think could be it. But there's some others out there as well. Well, Ashley, final little headline, I guess, just to say, not Bachelor Nation affiliated, but J-Lo and Ben Affleck got married. Woo-hoo. I'm very passionate. about this. Okay. I love those two together so, so much. I love this. Look at him. He's

rolling his eyes at me. I'm sorry, but they're like two of my favorites separately and even better together. Jared and I feel like we would be best friends with Ben Affleck. He has a lot of similar interest. And his passion for all the things that he's interested in really, really hits our heart. We really support Ben. We've loved this relationship back 20 years ago. And we were very excited when it re-ignited last year. I haven't seen any pictures yet. I feel like J-Lo's dress pictures aren't out there. The actual ceremony pictures aren't out there. Truly, I found their Vegas wedding more thrilling than the big elaborate wedding because it was a little less expected. But either way, I think this is happy news and I think it's a really cool story.

I just hope it lasts, you know? Two huge personalities, we'll see. I hope they listen to this podcast and I hope they know that we're both offended and we were invited to their wedding. Hey, Ashley, that's all we got for everybody today. We'll be back next week breaking down Avon's hometown day and the Mentail Law and everything good happening in Bachelor Nation

and also what's happening in our lives. I think at that point I'll be able to give some more funny details, a couple funny stories from the Wells and Sarah Wedding, but it was special. Again, congratulations to the two of them. Congratulations to Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez on their wedding.

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We're not doing that this season. Oh. Well, this season we're leveling up. Each episode will feature a special Bestie, and you're not going to want to miss it. My name is Curley And I'm Maya Get in here! Listen to the Super Secret

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this was the choice he faced. He said, you are a number, a New York State number, and we own you. Listen to shock incarceration on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? Answer, a new podcast called Wisecrack, where a comedian finds himself at the center of a chilling true crime story.

Does anyone know what show they've come to see? It's a story. It's a story. about the scariest night of my life. This is Wisecrack, available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Jenna Lopez, and in the new season of the Over Comfort Podcast, I'm even more honest, more vulnerable, and more real than ever. Am I ready to enter this new part of my life? Like, am I ready to be in a relationship?

Am I ready to have kids and to really just devote myself and my time? Join me for conversations about healing and growth. All from one of my favorite spaces, The Kitchen. Listen to the new season of the Overcomber podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. This is an IHeart podcast.