The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - How bad do you want it? Sorority Rush 2026.

Episode Date: September 19, 2026

From Coast to Coast, Bama to UW, we’ve got Fall Rush 2026 covered! We are taking you inside with unprecedented access with a Rho Gamma/Rho Chi live during Pref round. We embedded a reporter with... students at Bama Rush to bring you the hottest tea and inside dirt.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:39 that hopefully is going to make New York City better in the long run. Listen to Here's the Thing on the Iheart radio app Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to Dirty Rush, the truth about sorority life. With your hosts, me, Gia Judice, Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Fessler. Welcome back to another episode of Dirty Rush. I am Joan Bassos and I am joined today by Trister Sutter.
Starting point is 00:04:08 And today we are going to talk to our anonymous Dirty Rush producers who touch down on college campuses to get the inside dirt on all things Rush. We are so excited to be here because we have, I feel like we have spies at the colleges at Dirty Rush, which is so fun. And I'm picturing our producers who are all CaliSys. girls who don't look like the typical Southern Girl Rush students. And I'm thinking they all had to go like borrow clothes from people and do like do different stuff so they would fit in. I'm having a hard time picture. And actually I think we're going to get some honest answers also from I think we have
Starting point is 00:04:48 joining us first. Hi. How are you guys? How are you doing? It's been too long. But I'm just on the road. Yeah, so I was at Bama. We went in the beginning of August, which is when they were starting their work week into Rush. And those girls take it very seriously. I want to hear, like, I'm sure you had assumptions because we've all watched the Bama Rush videos, along with a lot of the other Southern schools. Like, did you, when you went like kind of were in the house, is it even more intense in the house? I picture it being very frantic getting ready for Rush. yeah i mean so we were just kind of like walking around getting the lay of the land that the thing that was kind of the barrier to entry is these girls i think with all the media attention around bama rush in the last few years you know with that Netflix stock or HBO documentary um it everyone was very just hush hush about it and i went full like i've got a lot of preppy clothes in my closet it okay and i mean i'm I went full, like, Southern prep, kind of trying to get the uniform to be, like, more approachable and talking to these girls about it.
Starting point is 00:06:06 And they, nobody wanted to talk to me. Like, can you set the stage? Yeah. So I flew to Bama purely, like, in a journalistic realm. Got it. Like, for the purpose of just being there on the ground to report back to our podcast about you know, the differences and rush there from my experience. And also, like, it's why we have this podcast, right? Like, sorority life is just something that's so particular to the colleges in the
Starting point is 00:06:40 United States and that whole culture. And so it's very different from the West Coast to the East Coast, South, Midwest. Like, it varies. So it's, like, actually quite fascinating because... Yes, totally. And you went to school where? I went to UCLA. Okay, okay, got it. Thank you. Like huge school and then has like a bit like a Greek life presence, but. But not like Bama. Not like Bama. The style is totally different.
Starting point is 00:07:12 Yes. So they could tell that you were not like what you said you were being. Like they could tell. They looked at you and they're like, hmm, she's a little. Yeah, I wasn't like going in being just like I wasn't going in to. Like I wasn't going in to try to rush or what it like. It's like while everyone was, yeah, like while everyone was going through work week, I was like walking up and down sorority row.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Just asking, going up to girls and being like, hi, can I ask you a few questions? I love that. I love that. I love to podcast and, you know, would love to hear whatever. And like a lot of these girls were like, no, I don't want to talk to or I know. I know I'm so much. Yeah, just because I think.
Starting point is 00:07:53 a lot of them have gotten a lot of that in the last few years, you know, and, and I found out later on the trip that actually, like, they have been advised from their advisors, presidents, you know, people on exec, like, do not talk to anyone about rush. Just don't get yourself as trouble. That was going to be my assumption. My too. You've been told by the powers that be to not talk to the press just because they've been probably need to have, like, their, you know, media training.
Starting point is 00:08:28 The people who have been media trained talk to the press. The talking, yeah. Right. Yeah, probably older girls. Do you think that sororities have gotten kind of a bad rap? Like, maybe they've gotten two over the top. And is that why they're not, like, wanting to talk to you? Do they, are they trying to, like, tamp it down a little bit?
Starting point is 00:08:50 I think like there's been two things at Bama. There's been like, you know, more, it's been more under a microscope, like a Southern rush in general has been more under microscope in the last few years with like outside media attention. Yeah. But then like there's also been like internal girls either in sororities or who are going through rush documenting their experience like on TikTok and blowing up for it and then also like trying to expose it.
Starting point is 00:09:18 And so I think overall, especially like, kind of the Southern way is to just like, I don't know, like, not just like keep things more to yourself or be polite and like and be more. Yeah, but a little proper. The radar. Yeah, proper, you know, whatever. Like, especially Southern women. So I think like it's kind of out of their nature.
Starting point is 00:09:43 I don't want to say there. Like I just want to like it's kind of out of the nature to want to be like exposing the sororities or whatever. way like a lot of girls like going through rush have tried to do. Were you able to talk to any of the P&Ms? Were they on campus yet or were they around where you had access to them? Yeah, there was a lot of excitement. Like I talked to, there were some girls who were, yeah, P&Ms who were getting ready, like at the hotel that I stayed at to talk to them.
Starting point is 00:10:11 And it was like, I mean, like purely out of just wanting to get to learn more. But in terms of like if sororities have gotten a bad, wrap, I think they're just trying to like limit the media attention and the people going into rush for like the reasons of getting famous on TikTok. Like it's kind of lost the plot a little bit. Yeah. So they're trying to, yeah, they're trying to bring it back to we're here to meet the girls and find the best fit for us as opposed to it being a media show and an Instagram opportunity.
Starting point is 00:10:43 I mean, the South is like, and Southern sororities are so traditional. Right. And that just goes against the grain. So I think they're just, yeah. Yeah. Would you just say that you got a feel for who is the, like, which sorority is that considered the top sorority or maybe a couple? What I came to understand was that there's old row sororities and fraternies in the new row.
Starting point is 00:11:07 And the new row. It just means like the oldest sororities, which happened to have like just more prestige, I think. And then some of these newer sororities are the ones. that new row sororities are the ones that have like gotten them more of like the maybe less traditional girls and more like who are like blowing up on TikTok
Starting point is 00:11:30 and becoming like big in that way so but I I like got mixed reviews but I think like FIMU is the top old row sorority because yeah I don't know
Starting point is 00:11:47 it's just like what I was hearing And everyone who said fine, you was top, they'd be like, it's the only white sorority house on campus where everything else is like brown brick. Were the houses insane? Were they like incredibly gorgeous? I mean, I, short answer is yes. And I was shocked because the UCLA sorority houses are like stunning. Like they are on a beat, like one of the most beautiful streets and one of the nicest parts of L.A. like right on Hill Guard and we like my sorority house had this double lot we house 60 girls
Starting point is 00:12:23 and like we had the whole courtyard and everything was like gorgeous so my bar was high yeah just like blew it out of the water like it looks like they spend if not millions like hundreds of thousands yeah like maintaining these houses yeah I mean and then decorating during yes well that's what I mean balloons and all that. Yeah. Like just like 11 out of 10. I mean, it's just like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:54 I would love to know what their budget is for just for rush. I know. They just go all out. I mean, you know, we've all kind of now seeing the social media of what they do. So I think now like every year you've got to do better because now everybody's looking at it. Yeah. I feel like a lot of pressure. It's like whatever you think it is, it's more.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Yeah. What were the outfits? Like was there like a certain brand that everybody was wearing? Did everybody put flowers on? what was the theme this year? Yeah, I feel like I got a very good sense of like what the girls wear through different like parts of their day, especially because like the boutique scene in Tuscal or stuff
Starting point is 00:13:30 is just, they're really on their A game. And it's like the classic kind of preppy dresses for recruitment, like just very colorful, like traditional cut, you know. But then like, I mean, the thing that I just, like, loved is that all these girls are on their, like, hot girl walks all the time. Like, I was seeing everyone walking everywhere with weighted vests with their girlfriends,
Starting point is 00:14:02 carrying her car bottles. Yeah. Their workout sets. They are just work. They are all. And you know what? That's funny that you say that, that they're so focused on working out because, my gosh, when I went to college, I don't know about you, Joan.
Starting point is 00:14:16 but hello we did not care about that we were wearing flannels and getting breadsticks at 3 a.m. And maybe they'll do that after they. Yeah, totally. Totally. Yeah, that's so funny. I love that it's the wellness area of college, you know. I love that. I mean, yeah, I think I gained the freshman 15 within like the first two months of college.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Totally. It didn't take a year. It took like eight weeks. I feel like the University of Maryland was so. big that I probably walked at least five miles every day just because
Starting point is 00:14:51 just to go to class from my sorority. It was so far away. My sorority was the farthest from my I was a computer science major. It was the farthest building from my sorority.
Starting point is 00:15:01 It was like a two-mile walk every time I went there. Mine was the same too. It was just, UCLA was nicknamed University of Cavs, legs, and ass. That's hysterical.
Starting point is 00:15:14 That is so funny. Yeah, I get it. I know. I don't think you could gain weight at Maryland because you had to walk so far. Oh my gosh. That's so funny. Behind every night spent making the kids' lunches, there's a lot of suspense. Will they finally eat the veggies? Will the pesto survive the first bite? Will the lunchbox come home empty, half full, or come home at all? And will you finish episode eight before you're done slicing the cucumbers? Get Bell Pure Fiber Internet with Craved Netflix and Disney Plus from $94 a month. guaranteed for two years on internet with a two-year term and auto pay credit. Visit bell.ca for details and to check availability. Bell. Connection is everything. Hi, this is Kylie Breakman. Angel Geratana. Jeremy Colhane. Patrick McDonald. And we're the hosts of the Artists on Artists on Artists on
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Starting point is 00:22:27 in a southern, going to a southern school. And if you're not in a sorority, you like don't really fit in or you don't have like a built in group of friends. Like everybody joins sororities. If you went to Alabama, do you think that you would have gone through the rush process? And what do you think about the girls that don't end up getting in a house or don't rush at all? I, this is a great question. I do think that that is like a key distinction with southern schools versus other school, like, especially like schools in California where there's just a lot going on. And, you know, you can be on a lot of different clubs and teams. Like, I know at UCLA, I had so many friends who were in Greek life because they were on ski team or surf team or things
Starting point is 00:23:15 like that. I think like the big draw of a southern school is like everything is about the school, that town, your sports team. And a lot of that ties in with like, Greek life activities. So I do think that it just like it just attracts that type of, you know, person who really wants like the Greek life experience. And so I do think it really makes a difference if you're not in that scene. So your sorority, you said it housed 60 girls. I had a huge house at Indiana. Yeah. And I have to assume that the houses at Bama are gigantic. Do you know how many people are that they have living in the houses at one time? I think it was like the same kind of 60 yeah. Oh okay. Like they have these big pledge classes and I think it's like to get into the
Starting point is 00:24:10 who can get into the house probably without. Oh, because it's not it's not a thing for a guaranteed thing for everybody. Like you have to it's like a lottery system or you have to apply to get into the house once you're in the pledge class. I did not ask this specific question. It's all good. If you don't know it's all good. But that's a good, like, I would assume so because I think I remember them saying how big the pledge classes were. And typically it's like sophomores that live in the house. But I think, what the one thing, you know, like we can kind of leave on this, but the one
Starting point is 00:24:47 thing that I did understand was that dues are so expensive. I bet. But oftentimes girls will drop. Like don't drop after they're... You can't afford it. Yeah. Some schools and some sororities, you're required to live in the house. So the opposite problem.
Starting point is 00:25:07 It's not that they... So many people are trying to get in and want to be there. Like, they need to fill the house to, like, make it work financially. Yeah. That was my house. That was my house. We had... I cannot remember how many, but we had a massive pledge class.
Starting point is 00:25:21 and everyone was required. And the girls that didn't want to live in the house anymore, like junior year, they just left. And you had to, like, I don't know what it's called, like getting out of the sorority. They had to like, do you know what the word is? Like divorcing themselves. It's like D something.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Yeah. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like this is a filiate? Yeah, something like that. So you had to live there. be in the sorority? Like you had to actually physically live in the sorority to be a member of the, like an active member in the sort of your soror. Yes, to be active. That's the word. I'm active. They were inactive members. If they wanted to live off campus or not in the house,
Starting point is 00:26:05 then they had to deactivate. That's the word. Is that right? Yeah. And I think you're touching on the reason why is because the house was so gigantic that in order to pay for the house and all that came with it. Yeah. They had to fill it. So great to talk to you, both. I need to talk to you. Thank you. We're out there.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Yep, yep. I can't wait. Next up, we have an anonymous Roe Kai or Rogam, whichever you call them at your university, coming on from the University of Washington. Welcome to the podcast. Here, wait, sorry, guys. I am just in the middle of recruitment,
Starting point is 00:26:44 dealing with some P&Ms. Amazing. She's literally in the middle of it. Yep. I love it. Look at you walking like around campus. You are. Yeah, I've got my pajamas on for Pref.
Starting point is 00:26:58 You are boots on the ground, girl. I love that. Wait, I'm sorry. Well, first we need to introduce you, but I need to know about these pajamas for Pref. Like, is that a thing? Yeah, all the RCs wear pajamas for Pref, matching pajamas.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Just because it's like everyone's in their beautiful dresses and wearing matching sets. or like looking beautiful. So we all wear our cute pajamas. So fun. So tell us where you are at in the process. So you're at Pref night. That is going to happen tonight.
Starting point is 00:27:34 And then you'll give the bids tomorrow, correct? Yes. Pref is currently happening right now. The first round has already started. And then bids go out tomorrow. So explain to me what a row gamma is. That's not the sororad you're in. That's the position that you are in.
Starting point is 00:27:50 in right now as a advisor. Is that correct? I literally had to look it up. They did not have this. By the way, I went to college in the 80s. So I had to look it up to find out what that meant. So can you explain that to maybe the listeners who don't have a clue what that is? I'm an unbiased source for potential new members to kind of figure out how they're feeling about different chapters and make sure that potential new members are going through recruitment for the right reasons where they feel the most genuine sisterhood. And I help guide girls who don't really know what they're looking for in a chapter yet or are dropped from chapters in the first round that they really feel a connection with.
Starting point is 00:28:30 And I encourage them to keep going in the primary recruitment process and stick it through till bid day in order to try to find their home. Because you'll truly find the place that she's meant to be if she sticks it through till. bit day. And I think my recruitment process in particular relates to P&Ms. I ended up joining a chapter that I didn't really originally see myself in, but now I couldn't see myself anywhere else and I couldn't be happier with my decision. So it's just like truly you don't know what you are going to end up with and the sisterhood you'll find until you have joined the chapter and spent time with the girls and dedicated yourself making friends because you never know your best friend could be in the chapter
Starting point is 00:29:26 you least expected yourself to join. Yeah, yeah, totally. I totally agree. Be open-minded. That is the best advice. I'm right there with you. I would have loved to have had an advisor because the year when I went to when I went through rush I didn't get the house that I wanted and so I didn't take the bid from the other house and then I went through again the next year so I kind of put up the whole thing like it got delayed a whole year that entire year I felt very like bad about myself I felt very rejected I had good preference I'm like well they really knew me because I preference there so they really did reject me and then I was determined like I thought like that was the only house for me and that was really hard having an advice of somebody that like, you know, kind of had a step, had like a step backwards and could see it more rationally. It would have been so helpful. Yeah. Is this a new thing? Like I'm also completely ignorant of what Ro Gamma is. Is it a new thing and is it a free thing? Or, you know, people are paying a lot of money to hire people who are consultants, but they can talk to you. Totally, like a rival coach.
Starting point is 00:30:39 Amazing. Yeah. Yeah. So we are disaffiliated from our captors. We choose to apply to BRCs and interview for the position instead of recruiting for our chapter. So I recruited for my chapter after my freshman year, going into my sophomore year. You have to recruit for your chapter one year before you apply to be a Rogam. But it is really like an enriching and rewarding and rewarding experience.
Starting point is 00:31:07 experience because you see the girls in your group grow so much throughout the week and discover a lot about themselves and you get to be the person who is with them when they open their bids on bid day and they see all of their hard work come to fruition and it's so special to watch so how many people are in your group and how many rogams are there there are about 40 rogams I would say I have 25 DMs in my our C group and we have three Rogams for the group. Oh, okay. And the girls just choose to do this on their own. Sorry, we're focusing on this, but I am so curious about it. Yes. And one of the Rogams is kind of in charge of managing things to the chapters. They do the two-minute knock. They make sure all the P&Ms are lined up in the right order and that they're ready to go into the chapter. They make sure that
Starting point is 00:32:02 the chapter facility is like following all the rules that are set by Panhellenic. They check on bouquets. Make sure that for our school, chapters are only allowed to have five bouquets on display. So they go through and they get out the bouquets. And they make sure that the closets don't look like they've been staged and kind of certain things to keep the recruitment process equal among chapters. And then they also make sure that the time that the round starts is synced up. up across the Pan-Helenic community. So every single chapter opens their doors at the exact same second every single round
Starting point is 00:32:39 and closes them at the exact same second every single round. Wow. I mean, do you feel like the more I think about this, like you are in a sorority and you are consulting with these girls and helping them through the process? And do you feel any kind of bias pulling you towards like having them come to your house. How do they work that out? It's really hard. Yeah. That's why we have three artsies or three rogams per group. Oh, got it. That's a great idea. If a P&M is choosing between your chapter and another,
Starting point is 00:33:13 they really recommend that you pull another Rogam in to help with the decision. But personally, I feel all different ways about my chapter throughout the week. Sometimes they're sitting on my chapter and they're telling me that they hate it. And sometimes they're telling me that they couldn't see themselves anywhere else and that they love it. Oh my gosh, that's got to be so hard. Yes. You kind of just have to be ready for whatever they throw at you, but it is a really rewarding process. And they must know that you are in a sorority, so I feel like they're being pretty bold by. They all try to guess our chapters, and it's like a huge thing to reveal what chapter we are in on bid day. And all the girls get really excited about it and make guesses. You might have
Starting point is 00:33:58 already said this, but do you live off campus? You don't live in the house. No, at UW live in our chapter houses, freshman, sophomore, and junior year. So I still live in my chapter house. So they could essentially just follow you, like, from class, put you on Life 360 and be like, because, you know, we're doing, I don't know if this is a thing like anywhere else around the country. I think it is, but we're doing Senior Assassin. My daughter's a senior. Totally. And it's like, you know, you wear the goggles to keep safe. And like, everyone is on the same light, like, 360. So do people like actually try to figure out which story you're in? Yeah, they do. Our recruitment happens before school starts for the year. So all of the P&M's moving to their chapter on bid day. And
Starting point is 00:34:38 they live in the chapter freshman year before they move in for school starts. So there's less movement for us to get caught. They can follow us home at the end of the day. But a lot of them live in the dorms during recruitment. And then they move into their chapter facilities. So they're kind of watched in the dorms. And when we checked out at the end of the night, the
Starting point is 00:35:07 people staying with them in the dorms kind of make sure that they're not like following us. That makes sense. Yeah. That's crazy. So they don't, so they move into a dorm like really temporarily. Like they are mom comes and mom and dad come and like picks up their dorm room. But really
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Starting point is 00:42:17 and then they move into their chapter facility on bid day. So if they don't get into the house they want or if they just don't get into a house at all, then they stay in that dorm? No, they, unfortunately, it is a problem with our system here at UW. They go into temporary housing in the UW dorm. And then within a few weeks,
Starting point is 00:42:38 they're placed into a permanent dorm somewhere on campus, but they're guaranteed a place to live and housing. They don't get to prioritize that or anything. Yeah. So, unfortunately, there are not a lot, lot of spots in chapters here. It is super competitive. We are seeing record numbers of girls dropping from recruitment this year.
Starting point is 00:43:01 And it's so sad to watch. Yeah. Because so many girls and deserve a spot in a chapter and would be great additions to sisterhoods, but there just isn't space for them. Like I think Cota this year will be at 15 per chapter. Only 15? Only 15 girls get a spot on bed day. Wow.
Starting point is 00:43:23 How big are your houses? Like, how many girls live in the house? In the house about 80, but chapter total is like 100, 120. Yeah, that's what mine was. Wow, that's really sad. Speaking of sad, like, how do you navigate those conversations with the girls who don't, who are part of your Rogam group and don't get a bit? We tell them that it's not personal.
Starting point is 00:43:49 It's not a reflection of them as a person. It's truly a numbers game. and that they are so incredible and their community here at college if they see OB, if they live in the dorms. And just because they didn't find a chapter where they felt at home
Starting point is 00:44:08 doesn't mean that their self-worth should be diminished or that they are any less worthy of friendship and of love and of support. Right. And it is really hard to watch because getting dropped by chapter truly does make girls feel that way.
Starting point is 00:44:24 And it makes them feel like they have no self-worth. Right. And that's so hard. I mean, I love that they're doing this even more because then they have you guys to walk them through it. I mean, hopefully they have the support of their family and friends, but also, you know, having someone in the Greek system to give them support after that has, that, that is really, really valuable.
Starting point is 00:44:49 And I hope, I mean, I haven't. is the first time I've heard of it. I mean, I haven't had a kid go through a rush yet, but I hope that all Greek life, all sororities and fraternities do this. Actually, is it a fraternity thing, too? We don't really have formal recruitment here at UW for fraternities. Well, they started it this year, but there's only 90 guys who registered. So they had about 11 R's programs from fraternities who signed up, but it's like a very small kind of need. Got it. Got it.
Starting point is 00:45:26 New program that they're trying. We really kind of rely on informal rush here at UW for fraternity recruitment. So it's just a different system. You mentioned something that is also on our rundown. A COB. What is a COB? Newest open bidding. Girls at my school can join sororities at any point during the year through continuous open bidding.
Starting point is 00:46:03 most chapters at my school participate in it. And if even a COB within the first few days, sometimes, they can move into the chapter. But it is quite rare for that to happen. And we really tell girls to go through with the chapters that they have on press because there is no guarantee. Is CUB something that happens after bid day? If you don't get a bid from the places that you want, then they don't fill their pledge class? Yes. And that's when they offer.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Okay, got it. Absolutely. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. So there's no guarantee, but it's an option. And how does that work? So like, okay, so let's say you don't get in the house you want.
Starting point is 00:46:43 So a couple days go by and you go, oh, gosh, I still really want to be in a sorority. How do you become a COB? Like, how do you approach? Like, here I am. Do you want me? I joined my chapter through COB. I dropped out of recruitment on the morning of press because I didn't see myself as a fit in the chapter that I received back and I got a COB bid from my current chapter the day after bid day.
Starting point is 00:47:10 They reached out to me over the phone because they knew I had withdrawn from recruitment and they offered me a spot. Oh. Amazing. But girls can also sign up more in a formal process. They go get coffee dates with girls in the chapter or get dinner, come over to the house and play cards. It's more of like an informal way to get to know.
Starting point is 00:47:32 girls and they go on two, three dates before they're offered a bid. And then they can accept it and still continue to live in the dorms for their freshman year. Oh, good for you. It was so nice talking to you. I love the perspective since Tristan I didn't experience having a Rogam when we were there. And I think, gosh, I'm so glad that they came up with that system. I have no idea when it happened when it occurred, but it happened sometime over the last like 30 years. And girls are so lucky to have you.
Starting point is 00:48:00 you sound like such a kind person. Thank you. Have a great day, guys. That is so good. I learned so much today. The whole Rogam thing. I know. Right?
Starting point is 00:48:09 That is so. I looked it up before this episode. I was like, I don't know what that is. Like I knew it was not a sorority. I knew that it was a thing. I just didn't know what the thing was. So I looked it up and I was like,
Starting point is 00:48:20 wow, what a great idea. How much I would have loved to have had somebody like helping me through that process because I didn't, I had no idea what I was doing. I was the first, like nobody in my family has been in a sorority. my mom grew up in an orphanage and my dad grew up in Holland during the war.
Starting point is 00:48:33 Like a sorority was like a totally foreign thing to my family. Yeah. Well, and what I love is that and not to take away like business for like I have a friend who's a Rush consultant. But like I feel like it's such a well-needed position for girls who are going through Rush to have these upperclassmen to talk to. about the process when they maybe don't know anybody, you know, and to like lift them up if they have hard days and to hopefully welcome them into their house and just into the Greek system in general. So I think it's a really great idea. That's it for this episode of Dirty Rush. Thank you so
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