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Episode Date: May 9, 2026

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podcasts. Welcome to Dirty Rush, The Truth About Sorority Life, with your host, me, Gia Judice, Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Fessler. Hey guys, and welcome back to another episode of Dirty Rush. My name is Gia Judice, and today we're taking a walk down memory lane with a group of graduating seniors to tell us what they wish they knew before joining a sorority. Hi guys. How's it going? Good. How are you? Good. So what are all your names? I'm Alex. I'm Reese. And I'm Ellie. Nice to meet you guys. So what school do you guys go do? We all go to Cal Poly San Luis Obispo. So fun. And what are you guys studying? Do you want to start? Yeah. I'm political science. Oh, Polly Psi. That's hard. Yeah, it was hard. I was a criminal justice major. So I had to definitely take a couple PolySci classes. Criminal justice classes were interesting too. But they're so fun.

Like they're not that hard. They're just like interesting. It's like you're intrigued by everything. PolySai is you're learning about all the history and it's a lot of reading and that was definitely not my forte. Yeah. And then we're both communications. Oh, nice. Are you guys excited to graduate? So we all actually graduated early, but we're walk in June. Yeah. Okay. Congratulations. Yeah. Thank you. So what sorority were you guys in? We're all actually in. Yeah, Alpha Chi Omega. Oh, so fun. Okay. So did Grief Life play a big role in your college experience? I would say it did. Not like enough to exile or isolate from other friends or other girls and other sororities or even without. But I would say that it definitely did in the sense that it brought me closer to. girls in different ages. So I like the family aspect of it I really dove into and I still have those friendships with like my G big and big. And I feel like even recently with like the job search aspect of it all, having those connections with girls that are graduated like a year or two years

above really helped because I would talk to them and like all of their friends and sort of figure out what they liked two years postgrad. And then that really helped to discover what I wanted. So in that sense, I feel like I really appreciated being in that community and having those resources. It really is so helpful after graduation. Especially because it didn't seem like they were scary to talk to because I was in like a sorority safe space with them last time I saw them. So asking them questions about how to go into it. I didn't feel like I had to put on a front and say, I knew exactly what I wanted. I more so was able to be transparent with them because they knew me as someone that we already had.

that foundation with, you know? Thinking back to when you guys were in high school, did Greek life play a part in the decision making process of you guys choosing what school you wanted to go to? For me, not really. I feel like my sister also went to Cal Poly. So I like saw her experience and I just loved like the friends that she made. And I felt like I wanted to like make those same kind of connections. So that kind of played a part in my decision to go to Cal Poly.

I remember because I never wanted to go out of state for college. Like I was very set. I'm from California and I said I'm going to school in California. And I remember a lot of people from my high school wanted to go to SDSU because it's kind of like the biggest sorority school and are in like in California. And so I remember like thinking like not being very familiar with like the whole sorority thing and like seeing it just from like what I knew from like social media or TikTok or whatever. And that being like between SDSU and when I got into Cal Poly I was like, oh my gosh,

I don't know, like, what I wanted to be in a sorority. This is, like, the Greek life school. This is the party school. And I feel like kind of having to almost profile yourself before you even pick a college, like wanting to know whether or not you're going to do that. It was, like, kind of a weird experience for sure. No, definitely. Yeah, I think a similar thing.

I didn't really think about it when deciding to go into school. But I think after I made the decision about Polly is when I started to think about, like, oh, do I want to be in a sorority once I get there? Rees, like, that is, I feel like, pretty normal when you are going, when you're entering college, then that's when you think about it. But I mean, it really is crazy, especially when you think about all the schools in the South, like you were saying on social media and seeing how, you know, looking at Bama Rush and just seeing how much more serious other schools really take sorority in Greek life, you have to think about that when you're a senior going into college.

Whereas when I went into college, sure, I knew what sororities were. I knew they existed. I knew this might be a fun thing to do once I entered school. But I never, to hear now doing this podcast, the extents and lengths that girls go to as seniors before entering college to prepare for what sorority they want to be in. I just, I thought, I just, it was crazy to me because that wasn't my experience. I feel like it really blew up after our year because we're the same year as like Kylin Darnell at Bama. Yeah, she's so sweet. Like carved her path. And made that her whole thing. Every year after that, I think it got a bigger and bigger deal. So we were sort of the last year before it started to really implicate that decision and make people think

about that as seniors. I also feel like just recruitment in general has like like in sorority life and everything has totally taken on a life of its own, like way more so than I think it was ever intended to. So that like pressure is so much heavier on like the years younger than us and even our year than it probably was for like my mom or my sisters when they were in rushing. A hundred percent. How did you guys prepare for rush? What would you do differently knowing what you know now? I feel like for Cal Poly, what we were told is that it was way more relaxed than any other

school, which obviously going through the process, I was so scared because sort of similar to how she had a sister at this school. I had a really close family friend that was also in. a sorority at this school. And so talking to her about the process really helped. But she, I always, like, idolized her and looked up to her because she was so cool. But she was telling me how she got dropped from a few sororities. And so I was like, oh, my goodness, if you can get dropped, like, I am screwed. And that made me scared. And so I think I didn't really know how to prep, but I was definitely frightened. And I was just like, how, if I'm so nervous going into the conversations,

how can I like put my best foot forward? Yeah. I would like call my sister every day before rush, which like I would be like, what do I do like and stuff like that? But she was like a big help and like it was just nice to know that like it would work out like seeing like the older girls and being like, okay, like they have their lives together. Like hopefully it'll work out for me too. No, definitely. My little sister's called me too. It was like the sweetest thing. I feel like I did very minimal prep. I also rushed for context. I rushed as a sophomore. Like, I joined our sorority sophomore year. But when I did rush freshman year, I remember the process. I didn't do any research or anything.

Like, I just sort of went in blind. And I think it was significantly more overwhelming just because I was really had no idea what was going on. And so I think I would have maybe phoned a friend and, like, gotten a little bit of context or like understanding of what was going on. Because it was very overwhelming. And it was just like, every, like debriefing with everybody in the dorms and all the different things I remember. being like very anxious and like wishing that I prepared a little bit more. No for sure. I mean, did you transfer into the school sophomore year or you were you there freshman year? With your recruitment freshman year or through part of it and then I got sick and then I never joined like during the second week. I like mono and I couldn't talk. So I never joined a sorority. And then I rerushed sophomore year. I went through formal recruitment again because we don't do a

whole COB is like not a huge thing at Cal Poly. Okay. Got it. So I mean, but brushing as a sophomore and because you already kind of rushed as a freshman, people obviously started to get to know you probably throughout your school year as a freshman. Did anyone come up to you and say, oh, I want you to be in my sorority, please rush, please rush sophomore year? Like, did that make you want to rush even more? Or was it because all of your friends were in one? I think these girls were, we have like a big group of all of us that were friends and I was friends with them. And they weren't necessarily like rush, we want you in A. KIO, but they were like, you should go through the process and like we're here if you need anything and I had definitely been like I had been to

formals with my roommate and I was like definitely exposed to the old sorority world and once I like understood what was going on I just think back to my freshman year brain and how I had no idea and the whole thing felt so foreign and then just like the little bit of context I had of like oh these are what the houses are this is like how the process works it made rushing sophomore year so much easier I'm sure it was all like such good friends at the point when she was rushing the second time around and lived literally right across from each other. And, like, we would see each other during the rounds, but, like, from the different point of view.

So we would be, like, the recruiters. And then I, like, saw her walking through the house. And I was like, you can't, you can't do anything. But I was just, like, smiling at her. I was like, I'm sure they didn't let you recruit her, right? No, no, no, no. It was funny.

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So if you want to hear how this story ends, search OK story time on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you're listening to podcasts. Did you guys have an idea of what house you wanted before rushing? And did that impact your rushing process like in a positive or negative way? Yeah. So I feel like for us it might be kind of similar. So the friend I had before, I always wanted to be in hers just because I had heard maybe like horror stories of people putting on fronts during recruitment.

And I was like, I don't know if this is like real the conversations I'm having. But since I know this friend of mine so dearly, I trust her judgment. So that kind of like put a bias over my perspective. I obviously tried to have an open mind and I didn't let it totally skew my process. But that definitely I had like one that stood out to me from the get go. And then I don't know if that's. Yeah, that was pretty similar just because, like, seeing my sister and her friends, like, they were groups of people that I just really liked. And so I kind of going into it had that house in mind.

But it definitely didn't stop me from, like, thinking about all of them as a whole and, like, seeing where I personally liked better. I would say, when I rushed my freshman year, like, because I did, we did it in weekends. So during the first weekend, do, like, I think it was like two days or three days. I don't know. I can't even remember. But when I went through it the first time, I remember, like, connecting so much with the girl that the girls that I was talking to in the houses and, like, having a very hard time separating myself from, like, the process.

So I would, like, be talking to the girl and I'm like, I would leave and I see myself in the sorority. And I'm like, I see all the girls that are in the room that are like, these are my best friends, whatever. And then feeling, like, so devastated when, like, I would get dropped from a house. And I think there was definitely too specifically that I had, like, my first time rushing where I was like absolutely devastated that I didn't when I like dropped out of the process and everything because I like totally had it in mind.

I was like I see myself here. Whatever. Yeah, the dropping thing is crazy. Like I feel like awful. Never experienced rejection like that. Like ever again. It's horrible. Seven or what?

18. Yeah. How many sororities does your school have? Or no, when we're like 18 years old, there's nothing. Oh, I thought you were saying your school at 18 sororities. I was like, oh my goodness. No, I think, is there nine? I think there's nine.

But our rush process is before school actually starts. So it's the first thing you're introduced to after getting dropped off by your parents. And then you have like a 15 minute conversation for the first round and you're like, that was great. Those girls seem great. And then you don't get the house back the next thing. And you're like, wait. Yeah, you question. Like, do I?

Yeah. I mean, you're right. I mean, your parents drop you off. It's absolutely heartbreaking. I mean, I remember freshman year. I was, like, crying like I was going to be gone for years. Meanwhile, I was 45 minutes away from home. But it was like the worst day of my life, like best and worst. And then you're right, like, rushing your sorority and then getting rejected. You're like, great. This is exactly what I needed. This is really going to, you know, boost my confidence starting school. Like one thing after another. You're like, what else? What's next? How did you guys navigate sharing things with your friends during rush? Did you keep things private or were you open during the process and talk to your friends about things?

I think we were supposed to be, we were supposed to be quiet, but we were in like a very social dorm. And I think that it's hard to come across like not like you're trying to gatekeep anything while not sharing things when you're also trying to make friends. So I didn't really prioritize the secrecy part of it. I really prioritized, like, trying to make friends. And so I was just being open with everyone. And I think that when it really takes, like, being a somewhat decent judge of character to understand, like, who is telling you things to, like, lead you the right way and who's telling you things to sort of, like, deter you and, like, make themselves have a better

chance at something, which is also hard to tell when you're a freshly 18-year-old. But, yeah, I definitely talk to, like, a lot of friends. friends during the process and it didn't really detriment my experience because I was really lucky to talk to great people but I'm sure that it could for people that weren't so lucky. Like if people were telling them the wrong things

maybe but I don't know if you guys had any. I feel like we like at least in my experience like she said we were in the same dorm. So we lived in a very like social dorm. I remember like every single night after rush everybody would like sit in the hallway and we would all talk about like our experience to talk to or whatever. which probably we weren't supposed to be doing. And like, we would, like, look out the people and, like, which also definitely not a lot.

I probably shouldn't say that. But, like, I totally remember that. Or even when I was rushing as a, like, sophomore year, I would, like, I feel like it was very helpful to talk to my roommates about everything that I was experiencing and, like, yeah, I don't know. It's a very foreign process. So, like, knowing that you're, like, have other people who are in it with you, I think, is, like, a trauma bond almost.

Yeah. Yeah. Like, I would tell everything to my roommate. And she would also tell me. And it was just kind of like, it would be like sad when you got dropped because I'd feel like embarrassed being like, oh, well, that house dropped me. And then I would feel like, oh, like, is this person going to think that like I'm not like great or cool?

But like, I don't know. It wasn't really like that for me, which was good. But I'm sure I feel like it could have been for some people. Yeah. But I also think that it helped with the like embarrassment factor of it. Because like if you're saying, oh, I got dropped and then hearing that validation that other people also are getting dropped, you're like, okay, and I love you already. so I'm sure it's just like the process, not anything personal.

What is your biggest piece of advice to any P&Ms that are going to go through the rush process? I don't know. It's so weird because it always is the like be yourself. But I guess just knowing that the person you're talking to is in the same boat with like having these sort of at times can feel scripted conversations. and just that neither of you want it to feel scripted, but just both, like, addressing maybe the nerves at the beginning of a conversation, if you're feeling them could be good, just to say, like, at the beginning, like, I'm so nervous, but I'm so excited to be here. And just maybe that can make the conversation go a little bit, like, smoother and less scripted.

That's what I don't know. I feel like I would say, um, just like embrace the process because, like, having gone through it twice, I have, like, never, I think it's, like, the best, like, exposure therapy to having to meet a million people, having to have a conversation, almost coming up with like an elevator pitch about yourself. Literally. Give me a 30 second elevator pitch. By being in those conversations, like you get the opportunity to practice, like having, like, I'm talking to all those people. There's no other time that you're going to be exposed to that many people and like learn things from other people. And even in like now being a senior and

going through interviews and stuff like that, I feel like I almost have an advantage to other people who didn't have to go through it twice because I'm like, I'm so comfortable. and familiar with just like having to go up with a conversation coming up with small talk like those kinds of things so i think that's like just embrace the process go through it even if you don't know if you want to be a sorority like yeah yeah and i remember also thinking like the girls that were like recruiting me were like i don't know i would think that they were just like so much older and like so much more like wise and stuff but the reality is like they are just like one year older or like maybe two and like they just like they're also just as nervous and like just i guess

Yeah, like just be yourself because I just feel like you'll get the house that like you're meant to get, I guess. And you shouldn't like fake a persona to like get one that wouldn't fit you in the long run. Do you guys have any rush regrets? Oh, I have like a regret on the other side. I was recruiting someone and I totally messed up because it was one of the last houses and I was so tired. Or last houses for them. We stay in the same house. but I was so tired.

And then I told, I asked her, I think, like, what her major was. And she went on this, like, long spiel. And we started having a casual, like, back and forth. And then I was trying to get back on my line of questioning. And I asked the exact same question again. And then she started answering. And when she answered, I was like, oh. And then I, like, put my head in my hands.

And I was like, I'm so sorry. I'm having a great time here. I swear. I'm just, like, tired. But then it was just, it made the whole thing seem more authentic. So it was fine. But I feel like that. could have been like one thing that I could have done better. I feel like having gone through it twice,

like I wish that I had just kept like everyone always says like keep an open mind, but I feel like there were definitely some like houses that I wrote off in my head just because I was like, oh, I don't, you know, I don't, this isn't like this doesn't seem like it would be my vibe based on what I was told. And also probably what you witnessed freshman year. Right, right. And so I, I think, like, I'm so grateful, honestly, that I went through it a second time because if I had stuck with, like, what my perception of the sororities just based on having, like, seen them very minimally, I think I might have ended up freshman year in a house that wasn't, like, I wasn't really, like, AICO wasn't one of the ones that I was necessarily, like,

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Bid day was fun, but I lost my key to my dorm running to, like we run back to the house from this. You run home. Yeah. And I couldn't even make it past the grass because I lost my dorm key and you can't get into it so i had like some girl stayed back with me and me looked in the grass and then i got there like 20 minutes later but so it was kind of not great in that sense but it was fun once we got to the house it was just so much energy and i felt like such an adrenaline high honestly i was

like whoa okay and you feel just so like welcome because all the girls that you like talk to they're just like so happy to see you and you're like yay i had a different experience freshman for sure because I think it was like every we lived in a very social dorm so everybody on the floor was gone at their bidday and then they all came back with their like rush crush or whatever and I was like I remember there was one girl who got dropped um like from this she had suicide bidded one sorority and she it was her birthday on bid day and she got dropped morning of my god that's horrible like we're eating donuts on the floor of our door but she was like crying and we were just like sitting there and I remember being like oh my god this is going to be awful

and I'm never going to recover from this experience and my college is like screwed and then now being here, I'm like, that was the stupidest thing. Because you totally come back from it and it's fine. So back to the advice thing, actually, like you will be where you need to be as for P&M, you will be where you need to be

and it'll all work out even if it feels awful, like, in the moment. But software is great. Do you guys remember the first time you met each other? Are there any fun first time meeting stories that you can share? I don't even remember. Well, we knew each other in high school. Yeah.

But I like don't remember when we first. I don't even know how we were in. We had a class together because since we're the same major, we, me and Ellie had a class together. And she, I thought she was so cool because she was, you're not allowed to have cars the first year. And she had a car. So she would drive you guys to class. She, we were in like a group project and she was like, let's go instead of studying at the library, let's go study at a coffee shop downtown. and I can drive.

And I was like, okay, like, let's go. I'm going to get off campus. And so I just thought you're really cool. And you would always talk about, like, going to UCSB a lot. And I was like, oh, my gosh, she doesn't even, like, need to stay here. Like, she's, like, traveling and she has a car and she's so cool. But I do we had a class together. I don't even remember meeting you else.

But I feel like, just like, like, in ACHIO in general, like, I wasn't as close. Like, I knew Reese from class. all of them, but when I joined Akeyeo, I remember, I think it was bid, midnight or something. You guys, like, they all, like, wouldn't let me go to anything. Like, when I had to go to, like, meetings and stuff, they were all, like, so welcoming and so helpful, like, because we lived across the street from each other my sophomore year. And so I would always feel kind of, like, out, like, a little bit out of the group because I was, like, in the PC below them, so I would have to go to my, like, meetings and stuff.

But even during, like, initiation or, like, our prep week and everything, like, they would always make me feel super welcome and, like, come. And I, like, remember the first time, like, all being at the house together, like, on midnight. It was, like, so exciting and so fun. And, yeah, I don't know. What was your guy's level of involvement in your sorority? Did you guys play a role in exec or a role during recruitment? Yeah, so I was on exec last year.

It was the school year. So it was last January to this January. And I was vice president of public relations and marketing. So I did all of the, like, merchandising and then social media's. and stuff. And I had so much fun doing that. And that definitely connected me to the whole sorority because you had to look everyone up on Instagram every day. I felt like a stalker. I, because I got to know like everybody's names because I was always looking at their handles. And so younger girls who were like two years younger would come up and I'd be like, hi. And then I would say their name and they'd be like,

hey, have we met? And I'm like, oh, no, I just like, I've seen your Instagram like every day. Like, don't it's not weird but um that definitely helped i was on it with two of our other roommates that couldn't make it today and so i feel like getting into like the older years you either like increase your involvement or it becomes easier to drop out and so it was really helpful to have three of the people in our house like super involved because i think it really will be obviously wanted other people to come to the events that like exec members were like required to go to And so then we would encourage like all of our friends to come. And then that really helped our retention rate.

So like our PC is still super big, but the one below us is really small because a lot of them didn't want to get involved like that. So I think that in like junior and senior year, it really depends if you want to get further involved or just drop out because you already met all your friends. Yeah. Yeah. I like I didn't do any exact positions. But like I feel like that was kind of a regret. Like I wish I did. but them being or Reese being on exec kind of like made me go to the events and like stay in contact

with all the people which is nice. I made the recruitment video for last year and so the year prior to that I went to a lot of events and stuff just to record it and I think having a reason to be there and like being involved like connects you so much more to your sorority and helped help me meet people in the PC I guess above me but my year that I didn't know before and I'm actually really glad that I did. in the moment, I was like, this is awful. And everybody was like, I was like super overwhelmed. I'm like, I'm never going to finish this. But then it ended up being totally worth it. What is something you guys will miss most about sorority life? And what is something you will not miss? Miss most, I think, just ties hand in hand with college itself. Like, we don't live in our sorority

house, but we live in a house of 12 girls with mixed sororities. And I think that having that huge, just like girl party house where we like it's every door you open is just like your friend's house or your friend's room and you can at one point of the day like someone's going to be home so it's like you're always surrounded by company and friendship and so I think that that's when I'm going to miss most even though it doesn't directly tie into the sorority but that's what I got from it and then I will not miss the fines from not going to chapter. Do that one too. But I'm definitely just going to miss like all like the events and like everyone just like coming together and like always having an excuse to just like hang out with your friends. Um, so that will be

missed, which is so sad. I feel like sororities like there's never going to be another point in our lives where we have this much on like a calendar like of fun events to do with like all of our favorite people. And so I definitely think that's going to be like a huge thing of just like, oh, we have an excuse like formal. Like let's all get dressed up and like, like, hang out and party with all of our best friends or like exchanges or all the different things even the stuff that we aren't involved in it's just like i feel like that's you totally don't think about it until you're facing like not ever doing it again and it's like wait this is so awesome and i've grown so accustomed to this so i feel like that and then yeah definitely like the stupid stuff that we

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