The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - How To Flirt And Make Things Happen This Holiday Season

Episode Date: December 7, 2025

The holidays are the perfect time to try out some new flirty moves! Kelly Bensimon and Jennifer Fessler are getting the BEST flirting tips from celebs at Jingle Ball who are single and married. Hopefu...lly, with these ideas, you can be kissing someone under the mistletoe this year! Email us at: IDOPOD@iheartradio.com or call us at 844-4-I Do Pod (844-443-6763)Follow I Do, Part 2 on Instagram and TikTokSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:07 What do you think of, Jen? What do we should be asked them? I'm thinking, Joe, that's not just your name. You have something else attached to that. I do. What is it? What is it? No, but do you know something, Grocery store Joe?
Starting point is 00:03:19 I was like, yeah, I got a last name. Yeah, I have a lot of name. Grocery store gel. Grocery store Joe. Thank you very much. That was my nickname. Thank you very much. All right.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Grocery store. Hi. A grocery store. Now you have a nickname. Can you help us out and tell us, I feel like you'll have a good one, your best pickup line? Oh, I mean, something about me is I got eliminated from the Bachelor Night One because I didn't have a pickup line. I would say my best pickup line that I used to use was probably just high and just like make eye contact and smile. Oh my God, that was mine.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Yeah. I would just be like, hi. Yeah. That's why we worked out. Yeah. Well, Sarita, I think maybe because you have that. smile that works for you. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Your smile, I mean, cute grocery stores. But wait, after the high and the smile, what's the follow-up? Usually, I like it when they're, like, ordering a drink, and I would be like, hi. And then they'd be like, hi, and I'd be like, hi, and I'd be like, what are you ordering? And then I'd be like, do you want to order me one, too? I would say, hi, do you want to drink? Yeah, exactly. It's easy.
Starting point is 00:04:16 You say, hi. That is why you're like, hi, and I'm like, what are you ordering? And then they say, and then usually they'll be like, do you want one? I'll be like, yeah, I do. Or I'll be like, do you want to order me one, too. Perfect I love that So order a drink
Starting point is 00:04:27 Flirting, it's more about Flirting is more about like energy and eye contact than it is what you're actually saying What you're saying actually I don't think even matters I mean
Starting point is 00:04:36 Well if you're a cheesy If you have a cheesy pickup line I don't know I like your style Both of you I like hi my name is Yeah I don't like
Starting point is 00:04:46 I don't know Whatever cheesy pickup line I don't think it works I took Luan Dillus up's advice one time to put my number on my, on a piece of paper and give it to a guy. And he happened to also be on Love Hotel and one of her, you know, prospective love interests. Oh my gosh. So I was like, oh, yeah, no, no, no, no, we're not doing this anymore.
Starting point is 00:05:07 No, no, no, no, we are not putting ourselves out there. Because you're like, I don't really know who I'm giving my number too. Right. I feel like you got to have a little chit chat first. I also think it depends on who's asking it. Like, I think if Brad Pitt delivers a cheesy line, it's still going to work. I disagree. It's still Brad Pitt.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Really? No way. Really? Really? You get picked out. Jack? Right today. Well, probably because I always like, Kelly and I actually both, I always went for
Starting point is 00:05:32 the chubby boy. Me too. I kind of like the guy. You like a dad boy guy. Yeah, so he was already, he had points against him. Okay. I'm sure he would have been crushed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Okay. How about you guys best flirty move? Flirty move? I don't know. I think just like a little, like a little hand brush on the shoulder, like a little brush on the thigh is cute. Like a quick touch. Yeah. I'd better not be brushing anyone on the thigh. Just you, maybe. Just you. I would say, yeah, again, I would probably go just like across the
Starting point is 00:06:04 room, eye contact, smile. Yeah. Okay, Joe, what about when a girl, like, touches her hair? Because people always say that, like, when a female touches her hair, like, a male is like, oh. Or I saw untacted out, like, when a girl, like, takes her hair down. Like, if it's up and you know, and they, like, take it down. Yeah. I wish I had known that. way back in the day. Yeah. Take your hair down. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:23 I would notice that. But also, if I'm not getting any eye contact, that's also, that's a sign of like, no. Then you're like, what is she just a pose or why is she doing that? Well, she's just like, yeah, she's not acknowledging me because she's like, why is this weird guy staring at me. Okay. So it's, okay, so it's touch, touch them, put your, fiddle with your hair. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:42 Take her down. Eye contact, smile. Guy, no touch at the beginning. Don't touch the guy or another guy shouldn't. I agree. You shouldn't be groping. That would be too. No, the girl can do a little touch.
Starting point is 00:06:55 I think the guy should keep his hands to himself a little for longer. Yeah, until it's welcome, until it's, you can touch me. I love that. Okay, what about the best first date? Could be an actual one that you had or just like a location you think is great. I think I've only been on like one or two first dates ever, if I'm being honest. I was not really a dater. But I think I think just like drinks, drinks is great on a first day, especially if you
Starting point is 00:07:18 don't know the person because it's like. Like you can extend, you can go to another bar. You can be like, oh, I'm hungry. Let's go grab dinner. Or you can be like, nice to meet. This was like a nice, like, one hour cocktail. I totally agree. Let's call it quits.
Starting point is 00:07:27 I used to say, like, go for coffee or never commit to dinner. Dinner. Never commit right. No one. No one wants to be locked into a dinner. Correct. And then you're eating with someone you don't like and that's a whole other thing. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:38 I also used to like having like a plan. Like when I would have gone on a first day to be like, oh, I'm supposed to meet my friend at like eight or something. Or you're going to meet the person? Yeah, just so they know. so that if it's not going well, it's like, oh, you know, as I told you, like, I have to go. But if it's going great, you could be like, you know what? My friend just bailed. Like, let's go do something else together.
Starting point is 00:07:57 So this guy, actually my favorite first day is this guy that I'm dating. He invited me to his house far away from where I live, which is something I would never do. I would never go anywhere for anyone. I'm like, I am not traveling. Yeah. Do you send you a car? I will meet you across the street. But so I went on a train to go see him.
Starting point is 00:08:15 That was my first date. And by the way, six months later, here we are. No way. Had you met him before? Did you have a sign that it was going to go really well? I mean, we talked and I knew people and we were like talking for like a month and then I went to go meet him. Okay. So there's already a little investment before you like got on the train.
Starting point is 00:08:31 I'm literally like all my dates were literally across the street from my apartment. Yeah. Yeah. If I was, if you and I were close, though, we got closed very shortly. Well, I would not allow that. No. I have to say. But listen, what do I know?
Starting point is 00:08:42 Here you are. It works. I know. But you know what that's the thing. Sometimes when you break your dating rules is when it works out. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:49 I just was like, should I? Should I not? I was like, I'm not going to go. I'm not going to go. I'm the queen of like making plans and canceling. Yeah. And yeah, I went. I love that. I love that it worked out. Yeah. So you can travel if you want, but I wouldn't suggest it. Yeah. Or you could always just go on The Bachelor and meet the man or woman of your dreams. Yeah. That's easy. I mean, you could also do that. That's easy enough. That's a bit of travel. Right. Right. But I do like the idea. I do like the idea of like having a plan. And maybe like at the beginning of the date saying, listen, you know, I'm just so happy to meet you. I have something afterwards, even if you like the person, I think it's always good to, like,
Starting point is 00:09:22 just be able to like meet them, digest it, and then move on versus just kind of like... I used to be the director of something called you all will probably not, well, Kelly, you may, it's called It's Just Lunch, and it was a national dating service, and it's just lunch, meaning it's only lunch. We're going to set you up for lunch, for professionals, busy professionals, and then we'll see what happens. Yeah. I like that.
Starting point is 00:09:44 I like that, too. I don't know if, how do we feel about day dates, though? Do you guys like it? You like a dayday? I mean, I haven't had one. I'm pro a day date. Pro day day. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Yeah. You guys, this was fun. We'll meet you at Jingle Ball. Of course. Thanks for having us. Can't wait. Get your jingle on. Bye, you guys.
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Starting point is 00:15:07 I do. I do. K-pop. My grandchildren. My little little girls love it. And I know I know the music. That's what I'm hoping. You'll hear a song go, oh, I know this, but we don't know who's performing.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Well, listen, ladies, we need you to give us some good advice for our listeners in terms of dating its cuffing season. We want to talk about how you get your flirt on. So, ladies, give me either your best pickup line or the best pickup line that a guy has ever used on you. I use eyes always. You look somebody right in the eye. You also have great eyes. I know, I'm like, I was like, I love your eyes. I was like, wow.
Starting point is 00:15:48 So I'm trying to learn to get my feminine expression on. I've heard that's the way to catch a guy. Really? What does that mean? Yeah, what does that mean? Well, that I've been told it's, you know, basically look like you're helpless. Really? I know.
Starting point is 00:16:02 People are saying, Kathy, you're too, you're too, you can do it all yourself. You're too independent. This is a whole other podcast that we have to do with you. I know, a thousand percent. But when I meet a guy, I'm just telling you, when I meet a guy, I'm just telling you, When I meet a guy, I smile and look him in the eye and, you know, there's either connection or there isn't. But everyone says, Kathy, you come across like you don't need a guy and men need to feel needed. So you need to make him feel needed.
Starting point is 00:16:24 I'm like, like, what? Open the door for me. Well, I don't, I do subscribe to the idea. I like when a man is the first to make the move. Yes. So that's just my personal. I don't reach out first. I won't reach out on a dating out.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Have any of you ever asked a man out? No. Never. Never. Have you? Yep. And? Wait, what did you say? She's single. I was going to say that.
Starting point is 00:16:45 No, no, I need to hear the actual. It was so uncomfortable. I think it was more of a dare that somebody dared me to. So you're like, will you go out with me? Would you like to get together sometime? Oh, over text or call? No, face to face. Just in person?
Starting point is 00:17:01 I think I was beat red. As loud and outspoken as I am, there's a different side. Of course. You know, I feel very intimidating. You feel vulnerable. What the hell if he says no. Right. Why would he say?
Starting point is 00:17:12 And then people were watching, you know. You survived it. I did survive it. He said no and you survived it. It gives you power. Amen, sister. So you asked him and he said yes. Guess what he said?
Starting point is 00:17:21 What? I absolutely would. However, I'm married. Do you mind? What? Yes, I mind. That's not going to know. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:17:31 But at least he was nice about it. Exactly. And I love that he said yes at first. I know. Yeah. What about you guys? Your best flirty move? like it's not in pickup line it's got to be there it's got to be there thank you we already
Starting point is 00:17:46 from our last guest serena yeah serena said it's like definitely and kelly said playing with her hair touch your hair and kind of looking moving your shoulders and kind of you know i don't do any of i have to jump in here nobody's ever sent a drink over to a man never i have i have never said it so good right that's a flirty move that is a flirty move go. They just said, thank you. And I say thank you when somebody says,
Starting point is 00:18:14 but there was a drink? Was it like a ginatonic? Or was it like a margarita? No, if you were just going to send, would you send like just a beer? Whatever he's having. And they turn the shot glass of side there. I've had a man buy me a drink like that.
Starting point is 00:18:26 Enjoy. I like that move. I like that. Wait, which I have had a man buy me a drink before, but when I was with a couple of women. Right. And he sent drinks over to the table. And then he kind of came over and chatted.
Starting point is 00:18:37 I think that's hot. I've had a man buy me lunch before. I was sitting at Houston's at the bar with a girlfriend and actually bought both of us lunch. I saw him kind of staring at me across the way and I thought that was hot. Does anybody ever buy somebody? What was your 40 move?
Starting point is 00:18:51 I mean, I think the flirty move was just that eye contact where you lock eyes. It is. That's key. But how about buying somebody a cup of coffee in the car behind you? You didn't notice someone you drive in? No, that is a plurting.
Starting point is 00:19:02 I like it too. Buying someone to coffee. But then you have to pull over and get out of the car. Wait a minute. Yes. If there's a connection. That is a great baller move.
Starting point is 00:19:11 You could do that, too. You could be like, hey, I'm going to buy him coffee. See, here's the thing. When you're in a drive-thru line, I'd have to get out of the car. Wait. That's what I just said. Oh, no, no, it's a woman with her tooth screaming kids in the house. That's like being in the red light.
Starting point is 00:19:25 You're making eye contact. On the convertible and it's like, wow, the attraction is so. And the blood turns, you've got to go. I mean, I want the guy to make the first move. I'm with you. Are you? I feel the same way. I want the guy to make the first move.
Starting point is 00:19:39 Yeah, so do I. Then I'll put on the flirty moves. I'll buy them a drink. I'll do all those things. But I want the guy to show interest first. And Kathy, how many times have we both been told? Men say they want an independent woman. They don't.
Starting point is 00:19:54 However. They don't. They don't think that they don't want an independent woman. I just think in terms of like meeting the first time, I think that that's sort of, I don't know. I could be independent and need. Yes. Well, no, like, what I'm saying is it's okay to be who you are. I don't think that you have, and you all are to, in different of women.
Starting point is 00:20:16 But I think in terms of like meeting that first time, there's this book, old book called The Rules. You know what? Here are my rules. When I were the rules? Yeah. The rules are the book. It was a book.
Starting point is 00:20:27 It just kind of gives you like an outline of like how to date. It's really interesting. A lot of it is about this, about letting him make the first move. Hunting. Letting gather. But when I've gone out with a guy on a first date, I am, believe it or not, I will ask a lot of questions. I think it's great.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Because I want them to know that I'm interested in them. However, if they do not turn it around and ask me questions, that's called a bad day. That is a red flag for me. And I've had that happen. I do. Sometimes it's their nerves. Sometimes they're nervous, you know, in the first date. But they really shouldn't talk all about themselves.
Starting point is 00:21:05 They should be interested in something about it. But that's what I'm saying. Yeah, I agree. to me has always been a red flag and I've never been wrong yet when I've gone out with a guy and he'll ask me a lot of questions about myself. Right. Then I'm like, oh, he's interested. He's interested.
Starting point is 00:21:19 But I've gone out with guys that I'll say, so, you know, tell me about yourself. I think that you know, I think that's great. I think it's almost like a job interview. You know, they tell you to make the interviewer comfortable. Yes. Your job is to make that. So I feel like that's, you're making him already feel comfortable with you. But do you feel that because you've been on, you know, you've been on a bachelor,
Starting point is 00:21:38 Do you feel like that guys see you in a different way and they're asking you questions because you've been on it? Because that's how I felt. I was like, wait, are you interviewing me about the show? You're like in because of what I did. I feel like sometimes when guys, I've had a couple of guys recently talk to me
Starting point is 00:21:55 and theoretically they're going to ask me out and then they let it slip that they know I was on The Bachelor. And I'm like, oh, so you're not really interested in Kathy, per se. you're more interested in the persona that was on... Really? Because maybe they are interested in. Then they say, well, I know you did this, this, and this. They're not asking about my children or my, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:17 anything about me, it's all about the show. I feel like when they start asking questions, like I feel like there's like, you know, how many kids do you have? Like, you know, those kind of real questions. But when they start saying like, so, you know... What was it like? Right. Oh, you guys went to back wherever it was.
Starting point is 00:22:33 Like, what happened there? I feel like when they're asking questions. It's like me saying like, so how was your business meeting? Right, exactly. Oh, and you know, I hit you up in the Forbes 500 in your. You know what someone told me one time, and I think it's a great opening for this. What is it you want me to know about you? Oh.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Yeah, I'm trying, as you just said, I thought, how would I answer that? What do you want me to know about you? I think on a first date, that is too loaded a question. That really does seem like a job interview to me. That's it. When I go on a date, my goal is always to make the guy feel comfortable and want to see me for a second date. So I don't sit there. But hold on.
Starting point is 00:23:13 You know what's interesting? Is what you just said? Wait, and I'm not telling you how to date, but you just said that people have been saying to you that you're not emoting your feminine side. Right. And you just said that you want them to feel comfortable so they're going to ask you on the date. Right. Like forget controlling it. Just be your gorgeous self.
Starting point is 00:23:33 and flirt with those amazing eyes and just have fun and let them want to be with you versus like you saying I want to control this date but how about also really being sincerely interested? Like, well, because I don't talk to anyone
Starting point is 00:23:48 I love talking to people. I can talk all day long. I know in three seconds. But I want to talk about that's why we love the four of us love to podcasts. Yes, yes. Right?
Starting point is 00:23:58 Because we actually are interested in other people. I will say I very much feel I'm from New England. I'm from outside of Austin. I am a Yankee. I'm a New England girl. We speak our minds. We're more direct. I live in Texas. And that is a hard, because I'm not a bless your little heart kind of girl. And I really think culturally, regionally, there are differences. So when I go back to the Northeast,
Starting point is 00:24:21 I think that's an easier place to date because people are more open. I would think those cowboys would be very drawn to you. 100%. Just because you're a different type. No. I'm from Houston myself. I grew up in Houston for 27 years. I grew up in Shireland. You're kidding. West University.
Starting point is 00:24:38 Wait, Susan, tell me your best first date. Oh. I remember mine. It was recent. It was a year ago. Really? Best first date. Oh, the Bachelor.
Starting point is 00:24:49 We went. No. No, this is the guy she's dating. I met in St. Martin and we went salsa dancing. And he could dance and I know I can dance. Wait, he's from St. Martin? He's from France. He's French.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Bienvenu. Hello. Yeah. That was the best date ever. I mean, I was dripping wet with sweat. I love it. Because it was St. Martin. It's hot.
Starting point is 00:25:10 It's humid. And we danced for hours. So you guys met and just went to start dancing? Well, we met online. How did you meet? And Kathy almost didn't let me go on that date. And she had you. Wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 00:25:22 There's more tea. I need to know. In a foreign place. Here's the deal. We have gone. Sandy, save me first. Wait, you guys, you met him on a dating app while you in St. Martin.
Starting point is 00:25:31 She was, okay, yes. Kathy and I were on vacation for a couple weeks, and I had an espresso martini, couldn't go to sleep. We did our face washing and da-da-da-a-good night. She goes up, I'm laying in bed playing games on my iPad. I can't go to sleep. Let me just fast forward. She goes. No, I wouldn't have allowed that either.
Starting point is 00:25:51 Sorry. I said, don't do this. But guess what? Don't follow our advice. Here you are. Hello, look at you. She doesn't speak French. I have to introduce them in French.
Starting point is 00:26:00 I'll translate. Don't worry. Just send it to me. Valentine's Day. I will send you some amazing things to say to a man in French. I'm going tomorrow. All right, I've got it. I'll text you. You guys, thank you. Thank you. We have to do this again.
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Starting point is 00:27:38 From Smartless Media, Campside Media, and Big Money Players comes crimeless. Join me, Josh Dean, investigative journalists. And me, Roy Scoville, comedian, as we celebrate the amazing creativity of the world's dumbest criminals. We'll look into some of the silliest ways folks have broken the laws. Honestly, it feels more like a high-level prank than a crime. Who catfishes a city? And meets some memorable anti-heroes. There are thousands of angry, horny monkeys.
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Starting point is 00:28:46 Gentleman's Cut Bourbon, Boone County, Kentucky. For more on Gentleman's Cut Bourbon, please visit gendelmanscut bourbon.com. Please enjoy responsibly. Hey there, Dr. Jesse Mills here. I'm the director of the men's clinic at UCLA Health, and I want to tell you about my new podcast called The Mailroom. And I'm Jordan, the show's producer.
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Starting point is 00:29:50 So check out the mailroom on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your favorite shows. What up, y'all? It's your boy, Kev on stage. I want to tell you about my new podcast called Not My Best Month, where I talk to artists, athletes, entertainers, creators, friends, people I admire who had massive success about their massive failures. What did they mess up on? What is their heartbreak? And what did they learn from it? I got judged horribly.
Starting point is 00:30:19 The judges were like, you're trash. I don't know how you got on the show. Boo, somebody had tomatoes. I'm kidding. But if they had tomatoes, they would have thrown the tomatoes. Let's be honest. We've all had those moments we'd rather forget. We bumped our head.
Starting point is 00:30:32 We made a mistake. The deal fell through. We're embarrassed. We failed. But this podcast is about that and how we made it through. So when they sat me down, they were kind of like, we got into the small talk. And they were just like, so what do you got? What ideas?
Starting point is 00:30:46 And I was like, oh, no. What? Check out Not My Best Moment with me, Kevin on stage on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcast. All right, you guys. So we are here with the most beautiful couple that ever came out of The Bachelor, Katie and Zach. Hi, you guys. Doing well. How are you guys doing?
Starting point is 00:31:12 We're doing great. It's Jingleball. It is. What could be bad. Very excited. I'm super excited. This is my first time going to it, actually. Oh my God. You're going to love it. I'm excited. I mean, too bad you guys are together because there's a lot of fun guys and girls at this event. I mean, it's definitely a lot of fun. So if you're a single person, it's best night. If you're single and ready to jingle. Oh, okay. No. You got some single friends here. Too soon. Nothing bad. Because look at this couple. All right. Anyway, guys, we're going to talk a little bit about dating. And apparently it's something called cuffing season.
Starting point is 00:31:48 Do you know what that is, Zach? I have learned about that. It's when you decide to settle down, I think. Like, you're like, I want to settle in, settle in. Settle in. I want to be with this person. Yes. For the holiday.
Starting point is 00:32:02 Is it like a situation? Sorry, producer Heather, jumping in here. Cuffing season is the time of year, the colder months, when people tend to partner up so that they have somebody to go through the holidays. Oh, so it's kind of like a situation ship. It's kind of like your new boyfriend. your new girlfriend. It could be a situation ship,
Starting point is 00:32:21 but cuffing season is usually between Thanksgiving and then it tends to end right before Valentine's Day for a lot of people because they want to be single. I don't know what any. All right. All right. All right. All right.
Starting point is 00:32:35 I love that. For instance, in terms of flirting, what's your or what was your best pickup line? Or one you've actually a pickup line. I don't think Zach ever used a pickup line on me at all. His personality just did it for me. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Wow. Wait, was his eyes? Maybe is it like eye contact? We've been hearing a lot of that. I mean, when she came out of the limo, I looked at her eyes and I go, God, I can't believe. What did you say when you got out of the limo? Oh, please. Wait, wasn't this?
Starting point is 00:33:06 Okay, wait. So I don't think I've ever told anybody this. But so they kind of like, I had the idea that I wanted to like throw football to them. They didn't really like that. Then they were like, um, you should. should do a moaning scene from what is that movie when harry met sally yes they wanted me to reenact that and i was so uncomfortable with it and i actually called the producer from my hotel room i said i don't want to do this i don't want to do it they're like you have to do it right
Starting point is 00:33:33 and anyways last minute we were in the limo and then the producer was like hey we have to change that they don't think they'd be able to air it so thank god reason if that just sounds so hideous I know. Right. And then the rights to the moan and everything, you know, how that works. Right? So, I mean, they're like, just say this. So, voting rights.
Starting point is 00:33:54 I get out of the limo and I said. That would have been awful. Because you smile, when you smile, your eyes, your whole face, like, lights up. Like, it does. It does. It does. It does. So what did you say?
Starting point is 00:34:07 Yeah, what did you? It was so lame. But I came out and I was like, we have something in common. We're both from Austin. And then I'm not from Austin. I was so nervous. And he just lied to him. I panicked.
Starting point is 00:34:18 I was like, we have something in, this was the line I was told to say. We have something in common. We're both from Austin. And he immediately goes, I'm not from Austin. And they cut that part out. I was like, then I panic.
Starting point is 00:34:29 And I'm like, neither am I. Wait a second. I'm sorry. And we're not going to, we're not going to harp on this too much. They told you just to make something up. Like I'm from Austin.
Starting point is 00:34:37 And so what they told me. Right. She wanted a line. Right. Yeah. So I was like, I panicked. I didn't know. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:34:43 this is production. and then he immediately said that and I was like oh and I couldn't like catch up to it so I was just like you know what they say everything's bigger in Austin and I like look down at his jeans you said that yeah I mean it's clever it's really thinking on your feet it is I mean that's a line that's a line that's what it worked that's worked that's what that's what that's what Jen and I learned is called packing in the pants yes packing in the past We've learned a lot in this podcast. We certainly have.
Starting point is 00:35:17 He definitely has a package in the past. Well, listen, Kelly and I are both 57. You're going to have to work with us. Exactly. So if you're going to a movie, guys, and you're flirting, you want to go to a flirty movie. Pick one. A flirty movie? Yeah, like you're going to go on a date and you want to go, can you, do you have any movies you would suggest?
Starting point is 00:35:36 I mean, I'm a huge movie buff, but it's like for horror movies and thrillers and all that. She loves comedies and rom-com. You would take a girl onto a horror movie on a date But it actually would kind of smart Because they would like cuddle up into it Like I'll protect you against the monsters Yeah
Starting point is 00:35:54 Right right right And scream right He involved Zach's like I like him Oh yeah I must be more of a rom-com Gatom myself Like anything Nora Ephron
Starting point is 00:36:05 I would think would be like The greatest First day movie Do you guys know who Nora Ephron is? No Is it right Is it like a joke upro? I think you were saying
Starting point is 00:36:13 Yeah, Zach Efron and Nora Roberts or something. Okay, what about best first date? Okay. My best first date would be going on a sailboat sunset cruise with a glass of wine. Wow. I never thought about it, but that is, that's like a great. Which he did take me in Portugal. And it was the most romantic special.
Starting point is 00:36:36 Oh, so you guys already did that. But that's really good. But that was like the epitome of what I think a first date should be. Yeah, that was awesome. Right. You don't think that's too committed, though? It's like, it sounds like a lot. I mean, you would hope that, like, when you are starting to date somebody, that they're
Starting point is 00:36:51 actually intentionally dating to get married. But in this world, I feel like it's so different. But I feel like you've got to start off strong. Like, for a perfect first date, 100%. Yeah. Like that would be awesome. But in a real life, maybe on the bash one. Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:04 More realistic one. What would be a good real life? Wait, that's really what you just said is super loaded, dating with the intention to get married. A lot of guys in New York City are. just dating to dating. Yeah. And so, like, I feel like their dates can be, like, really over the top. And then it goes, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Or, yeah. Or dating to hook up or dating to you, right? Yeah. You guys. Get photographed or dating. Yeah. Well. I don't think we answered any of your questions.
Starting point is 00:37:29 Yes, you did. Yes, you did. It doesn't matter. And we've learned a lot of new words. I know. We have actually cuffing. Loading your pants. No packing.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Packing. No, not packing. Package. Not your package in your pants. You guys, this has been really fun. So, so excited. Let's go to Jingle Ball. Are you ready to get your flirt on this holiday season?
Starting point is 00:37:53 Need some help when it comes to that area of dating. Call us, email us. All the info is in the show notes. Follow us on socials. Make sure to rate and review the podcast. I do part two and IHeart Radio podcast where falling in love is the main objective. I know he has a reputation, but it's going to catch up to him. Gabe Ortiz is a cop.
Starting point is 00:38:21 His brother Larry, a mystery Gabe didn't want to solve until it was too late. He was the head of this gang. You're going to push that line for the cause? Took us under his wing and showed us the game, as they call it. When Larry's killed, Gabe must untangle a dangerous past, one that could destroy everything he thought he knew. Listen to the Brothers Ortiz on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Stefan Curry, and this is Gentleman's Cut.
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Starting point is 00:39:17 What up, y'all? It's your boy, Kevin on stage. I want to tell you about my new podcast called Not My Best Moment, where I talk to artists, athletes, entertainers, creators, friends, people I admire who had massive success about their massive failures. What did they mess up on? What is their heartbreak? And what did they learn from it?
Starting point is 00:39:35 I got judged horribly. The judges were like, you're trash. I don't know how you got. on the show. Check out Not My Best Moment with me, Kepp on stage, on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, everybody. It's Chuck
Starting point is 00:39:50 and Josh from the Stuff You Should Know podcast and it's that time of year again when we knuckle down to do our annual holiday episodes. We collected our best past classic holiday episodes and compiled them into a 12 days of Christmas toys playlist that the whole family can enjoy. That's right. Maybe you missed it
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Starting point is 00:40:22 more questions than answers? Who catfishes a city? Is it even safe to snort human remains? Is that the plot of footloos? I'm comedian Rory Scoville and I'm here to tell you, Josh Dean and I have a new podcast that celebrates the amazing creativity of the world's
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