The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - How To Navigate Through Mom Guilt and Achieve Balance with Andi Dorfman & Amanda Stanton: Will You Accept This Advice?
Episode Date: May 10, 2026On this Mother’s Day first time mom Andi, and mom of 3 Amanda, are talking about balancing busy schedules and the wisdom they hope to impart on their daughters. How do you not put yourself... last as a mom? How do you handle mom guilt? These women are sharing what works for them!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hi, everybody. It's Trista Sutter back on the Will You Accept This Advice podcast as part of the Almost Famous podcast.
And I'm really excited to talk to the two ladies that I've,
got in store today, Andy Dorfman and Amanda Stanton. They are both moms and I think that we can
all agree that the stress of balancing life and work and motherhood is just all encompassing and
overwhelming at times. And I feel like they both have really great viewpoints. Andy being a new
mom. Amanda also being a new mom, but having older girls.
And really just talking the three of us all about motherhood and how we handle that work-life balance.
So I'm really excited to welcome Andy and Amanda.
Hi.
Okay.
So I'm doing this new little series called Will You Accept This Advice?
And of course, you guys were on my list to have come on the podcast and just talk about motherhood, how much we love it, how hard it is.
And then also the work-life balance and just how we do it all, right?
I am so excited because I feel like all three of us are in different, you know,
points in our motherhood journey.
You guys are kind of sharing that new motherhood journey, both of you.
But of course, Amanda's been there, done that with Charlie and Kinns.
So I feel like this is, you guys are going to have amazing advice for our listeners.
I'm going to get started with Andy.
The last time we talked, you were talking about how you chose to freeze your eggs
and then you actually ended up conceiving your daughter naturally, which I feel like is always how it happens, right?
You know, best laid plans.
Since becoming a mom, what's the biggest change you've noticed in yourself?
Oh, my gosh.
I mean, I feel like becoming a mom later in life.
I had this like whole life to myself of travel and kind of do what I wanted when I wanted to.
So I think sacrificing like schedule and time.
And I use sacrifice loosely because I love it.
But just that change of like the amount of time.
And even when my husband and I go away, it's like we don't just go away for however long we want anymore.
It's like, all right, we've got to plan this out.
We also like don't want to be gone for so long.
So I think like my whole life in terms of like logistics and schedule has obviously changed now.
instead of revolving around myself and then my husband now revolves around us as a family together.
Yes, right?
I feel like that's the goal.
Yeah, for sure.
You know, that's why we have kids because you want to have a family.
But it is hard.
I feel like you do have to sacrifice a lot.
I've been talking.
I actually talk to Michelle Young and Claire Crowley about their health struggles and just advice
all wrapped around that. And I was just kind of sharing that menopause is kind of crushing me. And
we all, you know, we all have our struggles. And I feel like you have to really take care of yourself
and do what's important for you if that means traveling and getting grandma and grandpa or, you know,
somebody to watch your kids so that you can have that one-on-one time with your husband.
or you can have alone time is so, so important.
Yeah, for sure.
But just planning it out as like a feat of its own, you know.
And also like, you know, I have a new baby kind of, I guess,
16 months at this point who fully relies on us.
So I'm not quite at the stage yet where it's like, okay, we can do more of the things
we want to do.
But it's great.
Like we were, I was kind of done doing all the things I wanted to do.
I kind of wanted like something to keep me at home and, you know,
someone to kind of give my time to anyway.
So it was good timing for that.
But yeah,
that part's definitely changed.
Just the planning,
the scheduling.
I have a whole other person to pack for and like,
totally.
Motherhood.
The other person to pack for.
That's so true.
It's like the whole house when she goes somewhere.
Like it's matter if it's one day or five days.
It's like the entire house.
All the monitors,
all the sleeves acts,
like everything.
I would hope that they have actually really good,
inventions now since I had a baby baby, you know, that stuff that you can take with you, travel stuff.
Yeah?
Oh, they have like formula coffee makers.
They have like curigs for formula now.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Stuck.
That's insane.
Press the button in the bottles nice and warm.
Oh, yeah.
Yes, I love it.
What, like I have questions obviously for you, Amanda, but are there any, like, because you have both?
you know, the older girls like teens and then baby, what were the inventions that have come up for
Rosie that weren't around? I mean, Kansas 14 now. And so like seeing the stuff that I had back
then, it's like a whole new world with all the baby stuff for Rosie. I was like, what is this? Yeah,
it's crazy. I mean, I'm sure you guys have lists. I, you know, I don't need that stuff. So I don't necessarily,
don't necessarily pay attention to those lists, but yeah, I'm sure there's so much stuff out there.
Okay, so Amanda, you have three, two from your first marriage, and then one, of course, adorable, Rosie,
with Michael, your youngest. What was it like going back to pregnancy and then diapers and that whole
baby chapter again? It's funny because I feel like for the longest time I was like so scared of
starting over. Like it sounded horrible having to like go back to that. But it's honestly been like
the best thing ever. And it's been so fun, like, getting to do it all over again.
I feel like this time I'm just like, I try to take in like every moment because now it's like,
I know how fast it goes now that I have like teenagers. I'm like, this is going to fly by.
But it's the best. She's so sweet. We're all like obsessed with her. She's like the little boss baby
of the family. So it's great. It seems like you both have boss babies. Yes. Yeah.
We joke because Amanda and I used to like, we're like we're getting payback for.
Yeah, for sure, for sure.
Totally.
Karma, it is a bitch.
I mean, I feel that deep down in my bones because Blake's Lee is, we're really close,
but my goodness, the attitude lately is like, I'm getting it back in spades.
We'll all be there.
Yes, I'm so sorry to say you will, especially I feel like for girl moms. It's just, I don't know why,
but girl moms, we get it back, however, we dished it out, you know, and I feel like I was, yeah,
what'd you say? I'm five. I'm five. I'm fine. Yes. I mean, honestly, I wish that I could go back
and be a little less attitude and a little more like, oh, really, mom, yeah, that's, that's so true
instead of, I know everything and you know nothing. You know. Okay. So what is the, what is the wisdom?
What are the top pieces of wisdom that both of you would like to impart on your girls?
Oh, I definitely think like being a strong, confident girl. You know, I love that Harper's sassy,
even though I joke about it sometimes.
And I feel like I look back and I'm already scared of her teenage years
and Amanda's already kind of in this with girls can be really hard on each other.
And so I just, I want to try and instill as much confidence and strength in her as possible
because I had a tough time in high school and everyone's got there, like, whether it's high school,
college or post-college and just tough times and bullies and stuff.
And I just want her to know, like, there's so much more to life than, you know,
the teenage years or the stuff.
the hard times. And so, yeah, just being confident, just being strong and knowing, like,
there's a whole other life after kind of school and just the beginning portion of your life.
How do you feel like you have been doing that? Or how do you plan on doing that with her when she
gets a little bit older? I think a lot of it's physical, honestly, just telling her that she's,
beautiful and also telling her she's smart. And I think sometimes you don't want to tell a girl that
too much because you don't want them to be, like, bratty or conceited. But I think it's important to
tell girls that they are smart and they are strong and they are independent and also like giving
them that independence too. So hopefully, I mean, I'm sure it's so much harder stuff than done,
but, you know, verbally instilling that in her and also giving her space and that freedom to do
stuff and like figured out on her own as well. Yeah. I feel like when I, when my kids were little,
did you guys ever see the movie The Help? So basically there's, I believe it's a nanny and
she tells these kids, you know, that they're smart and they're beautiful and they're important and
they repeat it. And so every night, um, we called it our magic words. And I would ask them,
what are your magic words? And each of them had like, I am, I am smart, I am beautiful,
I'm important, I'm whatever all, whatever words that I feel like you want to have them
embrace and grow up knowing. So if there's, you know, if anyone, you know, out there,
has young kids and you want to, it's not like I came up with it on my own. It was from that movie,
but it's so good. And the kindness part. Yeah. She talks about being kind, like you're kind.
I love that part of that. Actually, that's how we started. It was you, I am kind, I'm brave,
I am important. I'm smart. I'm strong. I'm special. I think we're Blake'sleys.
So, yeah, I feel like it's so important, especially, especially in today's day and age of social
media with them having to grow up with all of that. It's so important for them to learn it at a young
age as early as possible and really for it to be ingrained in them that they are worthy
and they are valued and they are loved, you know. What about you, Amanda? I think for me,
I mean, the teenagers are so hard and I feel like I'm now like getting into that. She's going to be in
high school next year. She's finishing at middle school. But middle school has been like a wild ride.
Like it's been, it's so different.
So I think for me, like, obviously I want to teach them to be kind,
but something I've always felt like my whole life,
I've been too nice to people.
So I really try to teach them to like have boundaries and learn how to say no
and stand up for themselves.
But also just like modeling for them.
Like, how do I expect them to be kind if I'm not being kind,
making sure I don't gossip around them because they feel like they pick up so much
from us.
And that's something I've really seen
over the last couple years
is like just how much they pick up from us.
And I think a lot of like the mean girl behavior
and a lot of the things that we don't want them to be,
sometimes it stems from, you know, your own parents.
So that's something I'm very aware of.
And I've had to like work on even over the last few years
now that they're old enough to understand.
Yeah, that's so hard.
Because you want to just be able to be in your home
and like it's your safe place and be able to speak your mind.
But they have ears everywhere.
And how you talk about yourself too.
You know what I mean?
Yes.
Also probably how our marriages are.
I think Amanda and I both married like similar guys in the sense of like kind guys and
good men and good husbands.
And that's like a great model too for our children.
We are lucky to have married the guys that we married.
Lord knows we dated some that were not like that.
So I think like also.
So giving Harper an example of like how to be loved by a man is important. She's obviously very young for that. But I'm sure like Amanda can attest that too with Michael like being such a good husband like just giving a good example to Kins and Char.
Totally. Yeah. No, 100% for sure. So important. Just like yeah, being a good example at home, I feel like is everything.
Yeah. I mean, dads are so important in your life. And so is role modeling. And I feel like the three of us actually are very lucky to have.
of the men in our lives that can show our girls and even my son, you know, how to be a good man.
I mean, you know, Max picks up on everything Ryan does.
And I swear we're very sarcastic and try to be, you know, have a lot of humor in our household.
And Max just gives it to me exactly like Ryan does, like when it comes to sarcasm and whatever.
So it drives me crazy.
I'm like, why lied?
I know.
But, oh, he's got the barbs.
He's got the barbs.
Okay, so Amanda, going from one to two and then three later in life for all those people
out there because I felt this.
I stopped it too because I felt like it was just going to be too much for me in pregnancy.
And me and pregnancy do not blend well together.
I almost died with Max.
So I feel like it was a really conscious decision for me to stop at two, especially because I had a girl and a boy.
And I'm like, okay, I've got the two. So it's okay to stop. But how was it? Were you nervous about that change going from one to two and then two to three?
And how did you, are there tips and tricks for how you handled that in terms of just staying sane?
I feel like it was a lot easier than I thought it would be.
I think I was so stressed to like go back to the diapers and like the no sleeping.
And I think it was like a lot worse in my head than like when we were actually living it.
I was like, okay, this is very doable.
Rosie also thankfully was like a good sleeper.
So I think that has a lot to do with it.
But it was definitely easier.
I feel like now is actually where it's starting to get a little bit more tricky because I have the
girls who are older and they're so busy all the time and I'm they don't drive yet. So it's like I'm
their like personal Uber and then I also have a toddler at home. But I feel like the pregnancy
was fine. Newborn phase. Fine. Just now I'm starting to feel like a little overwhelmed with
it all because they have different kids in like different life phases. I think that's hard. Luckily I have
a lot of help. I think that's key is asking for help or hiring help or whatever it looks like for you is just
making sure that you have help because we can only do so much. Especially you can't be in three
places at once if Rosie is supposed to be taking a nap and then the other two or a cheerling
competition or at school or taking a test. You know, whatever. It's so hard. I feel like that has been
one of the bains of my existence is just the schedule and keeping a track of everyone's stuff.
goodness, my kids are driving so they can get themselves to the places.
But they get so much a year if we start driving because I'm like, I'm also terrified for them
to drive, but I'm like that has to because I swear I spend 90% of my day in the car.
Totally. Totally. I feel like, yes, I was extremely nervous with them first driving. I'm better now,
but I'm the mom who waits up until 10.30 at night for Blake'sley to get home from dance because
You know, it's dark and I don't want, I want to make sure that she's safe.
Even if she, even if I have her come in and wake me up, I feel like I just can't sleep until,
until she's home safe.
So, and same thing for Max.
There is this whole other stress that comes with them being older, but yeah, the scheduling.
Holy cow.
It is crazy.
So I feel like asking for help, making sure you carpool.
Like, if you can see.
set up carpools, that's massive, right? Yeah, we have like the carpools. We have my mom. Like,
we're so lucky. We have a lot of help. But it's still, it's so much when they get older with all
the sports and stuff. It's fun, though. It is. It's totally worth it. It's just crazy town.
Like, especially on the weekends, you know, I don't know. Obviously, you've got some time,
Andy. I'm taking notes.
Scarple, check.
Is there are, yeah, scarful check, definitely.
Are there scheduling tips that you have, Amanda, for how to navigate it all and keep everything in line?
Like, do you use any apps or devices or your husband or what?
I mean, we actually, the skylight calendar, I feel like I was going to say, not an ad.
we literally live and die on it.
There you go, Skylight.
It's actually the best thing ever because it's the only way.
Like, I feel like also, I don't know if your kids were like this, but I think they think
that I'm like free all the time.
So then being able to see that like, hey, I'm not home.
But honestly, it's pretty chaotic here with our schedules most of the time.
Definitely don't know into science by any means.
So do you guys have your?
skylights in. And I know people who have like a white board, what is it called? A dry erase board or
whatever. And they have it like in their kitchen or living room so that everyone can check in and
see what's going on. Everyone can add to it, which is nice. Like my husband can add to it.
And like your calendar is distinct to it. So like Amanda says, like you can tell like I'm not just
not doing anything today. You can see my schedule that I want you to see too. We're not just free all day
long. No, but that's what they think. They're like, oh, of course, mom's here and she's going to be able to
pick me up, but whatever. And then when they get old enough and they have a phone and they're like
texting you and they're like, mom, mom, why are you answering or whatever? And I'm literally,
my phone is across the room. I can't answer that that quickly. It's also a thing. I don't know if it's like
just my kids or if it's just like a thing with like teenagers in general, but they, do they ask you
for you to bring them lunch at school all the time? Was that like a thing? So,
no, when they were that age, I would just, you know, make sure they had a lunch to take.
What is hard about this age, and I, gosh, I should have someone on here to talk about financial advice
because I've done a horrible job at it. Basically, the kids have my credit card on their Apple pay,
and so they'll just go to Chipotle or to Chick-fil-A or whatever. And when I, when I,
when I started that, it was, you know, make sure you ask mom if you're going to, like, be using Apple Pay.
They don't, they don't ask anymore.
I just get the charges like, oh, yeah, I was hungry.
So I went to Chipotle after school or whatever.
Oh, gosh, I'm so bad at it and realizing that I need to make some changes this year with Blake's League going to be a senior.
Max is pretty good.
Oh, boy.
Oh, gosh.
So the lunch is like, no, I just got them, like, you know, through school or whatever, made their lunches.
But what is your issue with lunch?
Oh, you're having to bring them lunch.
It's not even, like, school drop off and, like, school pickup.
It's like school drop off.
Bring them a snack.
Bring them lunch.
Like, I'm at the school 10 times a day.
I'm like, how do we?
Oh, no.
The office ladies, like, see me in there.
like five times a day. I'm like, I have to be. Okay. Do you remember what you just said? You want to
teach them boundaries? I think that's a place to start. Right. Yes, exactly. Mom is not bringing you a
snack. Mom is not bring you lunch. If you want lunch, then you need to bring it when I take you to school in
the morning. Yeah, right. That's the phase we're in at the moment. So, that's,
yes, totally get it. There's always, there was always something. Um, okay. So,
so obviously with parenting comes so much advice from other people. Everyone, everyone wants to tell you
what you should do, what you should avoid, you know, all of that. And I'm sure you both get bombarded
with it. Andy, I feel like you had a question on your stories the other day and you were like,
yeah, so you don't all need to be sending me advice for what, I can't even remember what it was.
but yeah.
Oh, I think people are like, how do you like stay unbothered maybe?
Oh, maybe it was that.
Yeah.
I think that's what it was because people will always, yeah, they're always sending like unsolicited advice.
And half the time I'm just like, it's just Instagram.
I just kind of delete it because I'm never going to meet these people in real life anyway.
So I'm not, can't take on.
I've realized I can't take on other people's attitudes or mental states on Instagram especially.
So it's like someone's having a terrible day and they want to just like lash out.
Like I can't take that on.
for myself. I can't be affected by somebody else's world that I don't even live in. So kind of the same goes
with the advice. It's like, that's fine. Everyone's going to give unsolicited advice. Like, I just can't
take it all. Luckily, I feel like when I was pregnant and even post-pregnasing, my brain was like total
mush. Like, I can't even think of advice that I listened to. I'm like, I don't know. Like, I can't
even, I don't have the capacity for anyone else's advice right now. Like, I was so in the thick of
it, I felt like that I just, yeah, I don't even know. I'm like, in one ear out the other. But
I mean people, it's like, it's funny because every mom is an expert of being a mom.
You know, like you can't go online and get someone like financial advice or medical advice
if you're not a financial person or a medical person, but every mom does have expertise,
you know, so I think moms just think they, you know, have the right to kind of give that advice.
And sometimes it's really good.
You know, sometimes it's nice.
Usually the nice things you've already heard a thousand times.
And sometimes I'm just like, just yeah, just to eat.
good. We're just going to erase that for 10 minutes. Yes. It's wild. Amanda's seen it too, I'm sure.
Oh, I'm sure. I mean, everyone. If you have an Instagram account, if you're on social media,
you are bombarded as a mom with how you should or what you shouldn't do, right? Yeah. Same, Amanda.
Oh, yeah. I feel like a lot of the time, too, I mean, not every time. Sometimes, sometimes they're mean,
but a lot of times I think they're like genuinely trying to be helpful, but it's still.
Totally.
It doesn't make it any less like annoying at times.
You're like, I already know.
I already know.
Right.
Or it's just a lot keeping up with it.
Like, you know, if everyone is sending you something, it's just a lot to keep up with.
You're the 100th person that said it.
I already know.
Yeah.
Right.
Got it.
Are there any good sites or Instagram accounts that you guys follow that have given you
great advice or you feel like you look up to how they parent or
anything revolved around motherhood?
I had to stop with the Instagram.
No.
I mean, I will say I'm very lucky because my father-in-law was a pediatrician for like 45
years and he looks at my Instagram.
So if there's something that's awry, he's going to tell me.
But I feel like two things of the Instagram advice.
Like one, I'm like, what's your expertise, first of all?
And secondly, once you start watching it, I don't know about you, Amanda,
but my algorithm would go crazy and just everything was parenting advice.
My whole algorithm was just whether it was a big toddler food was a big one.
The foods, the baby lead weaning, all that stuff where I just, I couldn't escape it.
So I had to just completely stop looking at anything.
Yeah.
I feel like when they were younger, I would follow like the sleep accounts and like the lead
weeding accounts.
And then yeah, it's like it's almost information overload.
Yeah.
And that's one thing too.
Like when I had Kensington Char, there wasn't so much information.
And so I feel like it was almost easier.
So sometimes I just have to like shut it out.
And like I just got to figure it out on my own.
I feel like I stopped consuming it after Harper turned one.
I don't know if you feel that way Amanda with Rosie.
But like at some point I just, I mean, I did moms on call.
I would take like taking care of babies, all of it.
And maybe around the time she turned one, it's like I don't read anything.
Or you just kind of figure it out, I guess.
Maybe that's the confidence of having been a mom for a year.
But it seems like it shifted a lot for me when she turned one.
Yeah, I would say the same. It's like once they're out of that like first year, I feel like you're just, you just, it's easier on your own sometimes.
Yeah.
Well, and also you have, I'm sure you have mom friends that you just talk about things with them. So I feel like it becomes your community, like your own personal community. I don't know if you guys did or have done anything like this. I mean, Amanda, obviously you were a parent before having Rosie, but now having like Mommy and Me classes where I don't know.
I know that I had a class where there was like a nurse who would kind of guide us through
like any of the issues that we were having, whether it was nursing or feeding or whatever,
like bottom rash, you know, like any of that stuff.
And when you're in that birth to one year zone, you really are just trying to keep your kid alive, right?
So yeah, that's important.
But I feel like once you get out of that stage, like the mommy and me classes, I really bonded with those moms because we were in the same, like, phase of life.
And so it was great to be able to have those moms.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
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podcasts. Okay, Amanda, how is your parenting style changed from Kins to Rosie? Consider it's been
what? So the age difference between them is 12 years or 13? 10 years, 10 and 11 years. Okay.
Yeah. Okay. So, I mean, I was like, I was a single mom for a majority of kids in charge life.
And so I'm very typey. Like, Andy knows I'm very chill. Like, I pack for a trip two hours before I leave.
Oh my gosh.
Paid back.
And so it's horrible.
But like growing up like they slept in my bed with me.
Like we just, I don't know.
It was so different where now I feel like I'm a lot more structured.
I think a lot of that's probably just from like getting older also from Michael.
He's very type A.
So definitely a lot more like structured more like I stay on a routine now.
Or with Kins and JAR we were kind of just doing our own thing.
So I would say very different.
Yeah.
How are you, Andy?
Are you a type of a?
No, no.
I'm typing.
I figured as much.
Andy's husband is like me.
Like anything to know something about them, I'm like, I'm Blaine.
That is so funny.
Oh, yeah.
We talk about all the time.
Even with like house stuff, I'm like Blaine and Amanda.
Like if they built a house together, it'd be hilarious.
Neither house would get done because Michael and I would fight the whole time probably.
And you and Blaine would just never make a decision.
I know. It always works out, though. So I just continue to. It does. But Amanda and I are opposite in that way too. But like even Amanda and I are super close and we've had so many like fun single dates together. I've always in type A. She's always in type A, which is like made it so much fun too. Yeah. So funny. Yes. It is. It's true. Opposites attract. That's me and Ryan too. There's something to it. I mean, all of us involved and obviously were three people in the world. But.
But whatever.
Okay.
You both obviously are super busy with your own lives and everything, kids, husbands, jobs, everything.
How do you approach each day?
Like, do you have a schedule?
Obviously, Amanda, I know you're type B, but you kind of have to have a little bit of a schedule with the girls and you are a bit more structured.
Like you said, how do you approach each day?
and just are there tips, tricks of how you've been able to balance it?
Because it is not easy.
Life is crazy and making sure that everyone is cared for.
Of course, as a mom for almost 19 years, I always seem to put myself last.
And I kind of wish I had changed that a little bit.
but it's kind of how you have to do it.
I always go by priority.
So like if someone's sick, obviously they're getting all of my attention and then everything
else can just wait.
If they have to get to school, you know, those kind of responsibilities.
Those are priorities.
If we have a loan time, then Ryan's the priority.
So how do you guys get through each day?
I think for me, I've kind of accepted, like I used to really stress myself out over like
making sure everything was balanced.
Like I had time for Michael, time for me, time for the kids, time for work.
And I feel like now accepting like there's always going to be part of that that's like lacking.
So every day it's like maybe I have to focus more on work today.
Maybe I need to focus more on the kids today.
And I feel like that's helped me like not feel as guilty or like stressed about trying to balance every single day.
I will say like the last couple months we've been so busy with the kids and like cheer and all these things.
that I feel like Michael and I have had no alone time.
So like that's what's kind of out of balance right now.
But just knowing there's going to be different phases for everything.
I feel like that helps me kind of, you know, that is the balance, I think.
Yeah.
Yeah, I was going to say we wing it.
I mean, ours are a little different because obviously I have one and she can only do so much,
which in some ways makes it hard because I wish I could schedule classes for her.
You know, I wish she could do like the little gym and most things are 18 months and above.
So sometimes I feel frustrated with finding things to do with her and for her.
But, and then, you know, naps can be unpredictable.
And so it is kind of winging it.
I think, you know, to Amanda's point, once we get to a different phase,
it'll be a whole different thing.
So for now, ours is literally just winging it day by day and figure out like,
okay, when is she going to wake up?
Like, you know, is the weather out nice?
Can we go to the park?
Do we have to, you know, shift into something else?
can bling get off a little earlier.
Like, yeah, we're in the thick of the unknown, I would say.
I will see once the schedules get like busy, one thing that's helped me so much is like having
a to do list of like everything that I want to get done and then having one of like,
okay, here's just like the top two things that need to get done.
If I get the rest done, great, but it's not a priority.
So like prioritizing those things has helped a lot too.
Yeah.
Yes.
Huge.
That's what I thought.
I feel like I always have a list.
Always have it to do.
I'm always crossing things off.
It just is such a satisfying physical way of being like, yes, I'm productive.
Yes, I got something done.
It's like you go in and add stuff to scratch off.
I'll like add stuff that I've already done that day just to be able to scratch it off.
I haven't done that.
I love that.
I do.
That's so cute.
You're like, I'm going to write it down because I already did it.
So yeah.
Switch pens.
Switch pen, you cross it out.
Oh my gosh.
I actually have like an email trick where it's weird, but it helps me get through email
because I feel like all a freaking junk mail that you get is so annoying.
And then when they're older, dealing with like their email accounts because, you know,
I signed up for their like high school email accounts so that I could keep up with whatever
their teachers needed.
Anyway, I go by, what is it, fives.
So if I have like 243 emails, then I'll get rid of three, so I get down to 240.
So it makes me actually like do emails, even if it's getting rid of junk email.
And if I've gotten through all the junk, then it's like those three emails, I need to prioritize
and figure out which one is the priority to respond to first or what's a really easy one
so I can just, you know, cross something off the list.
So, you know, I mean, gosh, keeping up your emails and all the apps, whatever it takes.
Amanda, I don't know if with the girls' schedules you have like a million apps,
but everything has a different app, whether it's hockey or cheerleading for you,
dance for us, like, you know, all of the different competitions have their own app.
it is just so annoying to have to deal with it.
No, everything's online.
Everything's an app now.
Everything's like a QR code.
It's a lot.
It's so much.
Yeah.
And I don't think our husbands do ever or will ever understand that that is such like,
it's like a full-time job making sure that everyone is where they need to be and has all
the things that they need.
Oh, gosh, it's a lot.
It's a lot.
It's so much.
And then you also like want to not be on your phone as much, but everything's on your phones.
You're like, how do I do this?
I know.
Ryan and I had a date night last night, like first in a long time.
And I wanted while we were sitting in one place to just talk about what was coming up for the week.
Because we're not good about that.
He hates whenever I bring up anything scheduling related.
So I was like, we're sitting in one place.
I'm just going to like go over the schedule for because graduation is.
coming. It's a crazy time in the Sutter household, so I wanted to go over it. And he was like,
why are you bringing this up? You wanted to get me in a bad mood? I'm like, I just want to be
on the same page. Please help. But no, yeah, they just don't. They don't understand.
Hopefully your husbands will understand more as your case. Blains more organized than I am.
I'm that person where I'm like, really, you're going to ruin my reality TV show right now by
talking schedules with me.
He's like, we have to talk schedule.
It's kind of necessary, but whatever, it's fine.
I handle most of it and it's all good.
How do you both make time for yourself?
Like, are there things that you prioritize?
Obviously, Andy, I feel like getting out for a run is probably something that you prioritize.
But how do you do that?
And what are your priorities for yourself?
I would definitely say fitness for me because that's also like my mental outlet.
If someone wants to go get like a massage or go to lunch or whatever your mental outlet is,
like that's my mental outlet.
So I always prioritize that while either getting help, coverage, Blaine, whoever, you know,
that's important for me.
That's like my time.
And Blaine does the same.
He likes fitness too.
And he has, we have separate workouts.
So that helps a lot too.
So he goes and does his workout.
Usually like every day and, you know, we just make it work.
That's his time.
That's like, I guess in some ways his priority for himself.
So we both respect that a lot, which is.
just good. That's huge. Yeah. I mean, I have, I have help here during the week, so I feel like
I always try to prioritize something for me, whether it's like a lunch with my friends or
working out or whatever it is. And then Michael and I will also like switch off, which is nice.
Like sometimes I'll have a girl's night, he'll go out with his friends. So we kind of all,
we just work together. It's amazing how much you get done when you have help because it's like
the clock starts and I've never been faster in my life.
Like, you know, it's like you can get so much done in a few hours and someone's covering for you.
It's like speed rate thing.
How did you guys find help?
Well, I got lucky because, yeah, we had a nanny share and then the kid that I was with got a little older.
So he's like in school now.
So we got so lucky and she's a godsend, like a godsend.
So yeah.
Yeah, we got lucky.
And Andy, your family is not.
They're how far away?
They're like two and a half, three hours.
Okay. But you know, my parents are in their own life now. Like, they have their own thing going. And they're in that phase of life for sure. And your sister is where? Memphis. So she's far. Okay. She has three kids of her own, you know. So. Oh, and that's another outlet for you. I'm sure you use her to bounce ideas off of. Oh, for sure. For sure. Yeah. But help is key. Like, I feel like whoever it is, whatever form is in, like, I was a daycare.
baby, you know, both of my parents had to work. So I went to daycare my whole life. And like,
that's how, whatever it is, like, accepting it and just knowing that like, yeah,
it really does take a village. It's cliche as that sounds. Oh, totally. I feel like also like
playdates were amazing when I was raising my kids because I did get that like that outlet of girl time
with my friends. And then also knowing that my kids were making friendships and being social.
and that kind of stuff was important. And also, I feel like ask your friends. Like, it often is
easier if you have two kids together who can play together. And then it's not as difficult for
for mom or whatever. So I feel like taking shifts with your friends and being like, okay, you need to go get,
you know, all of your errands done. Bring your kid over. They'll play. You go get your errands done.
and the next week it'll be my time and I'll bring my kid over to your house or whatever.
So it doesn't necessarily need to be like, I know help can be hard for people that don't feel
like they have the financial means to hire someone, but it doesn't have to be that.
Just I feel like relying on the people in your life who you trust with your children is really
important too. Yep. It comes in all different forms for different people for sure.
Yeah, agreed.
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Okay, mom guilt.
I feel like this is something that all moms deal with, right?
And why is there not dad guilt?
You don't hear that.
That's not a term.
Why are we so hard on each other and why are we so hard on ourselves and how do you guys deal with it?
I literally think it's like a chemical makeup.
I think it's like physical, chemical.
I think there's something about mom guilt that like is within all of us.
So then moms share it with each other, unfortunately.
Like it's just something within us.
I, that's my belief because you're right.
There is no dad guilt.
Like even I could go on vacation with Blaine and no one's asking him how he's leaving Harper.
Like we're on the same vacation together.
Like, what?
Yeah.
No one's asking him that.
So I think even the questions create the guilt.
And then it's just this cycle like that's never ending.
And I think those questions come from like not even a bad place.
Just like we just inherently have mom guilt.
It's just I don't know.
I'm putting it there.
I think that's what it is.
Yeah.
Yeah, I agree with that.
Just put it away.
Just I feel like it's not okay for us to treat ourselves like that.
But yet we do.
I mean, I have done it for years.
It's just I don't know why.
I wish that I had those answers because you guys are kind of in the beginnings of your motherhood journey.
Obviously, Amanda, a little bit farther along.
But it's just so sad that we treat ourselves and each other like that and we put that guilt on ourselves.
We should be able to just parent how we feel it's appropriate for our family, our children, ourselves and not have any guilt around it.
I mean, I had friends who had no schedule whatsoever.
They would bring their babies to bars, you know, or whatever.
And whatever, whatever you need to do to get through, obviously, within limits of keeping your kids safe and happy and healthy, all of that.
But gosh, I wish that women could be easier.
I think the best thing for it is girls trips, honestly.
But then you get crapp around a girl's trips.
The thing is, I have friends that are like, you just get over it.
You just don't have it.
And if you're on a girls trip with other moms, like, I have a group of friends that are, you know, we're all moms and we take a big trip every year.
And of course, everyone misses their kids.
And like, you know, we all share in that.
We're all good moms.
We're all present moms.
But like, we're entitled to have this trip.
And when you're all doing it together, it just feels better for some reason.
Yeah.
I feel like it's also like you can't win.
Like you're going to have mom guilt.
Even when I like have the day off and the whole day with my kids or something, it's like, oh, I, I was.
like mean or I had a temper or I was on my phone too much. It's like no matter what, I feel like
when we get in bed at night, it's like you have those regrets and like that mom guilt. So yeah,
so real. Yeah, it is so real. I feel like, you know, I have learned to kind of put that away
for Max's 18th birthday. And I say this kind of laughing because I went to Mexico with Caitlin for her
40th and it was, I was gone for his 18th birthday, but I was like, you know what? This trip is,
you know, a once in a, you know, blue moon. It doesn't happen all that often. And I, of course,
made sure that all of his gifts were ready before I left and all wrapped and ready to go.
I'm sure he was fine. He was fine. And he probably won't even remember it as he gets older.
I mean, he's 18, obviously. So he's, it's not like he's,
too. But yeah, just do what you need to do to maintain your mental health. I think also,
like, the big picture is the important thing. Like, at the end of the day, do your kids feel loved?
I mean, I miss Harper's first Halloween because I had a girl ship. And I'm like, he doesn't even know.
She doesn't care. Like, big picture, is this something that's going to, like, scar her for life? And
obviously, the answer to that is no. It's like, at the end of the day, as long as your kid feels loved
growing up. I think that's like all you can hope and achieve as a mom. Yeah, 100%. Totally.
Yep. I agree. We're, you know, for graduation, graduation is coming up for Max and we had to write,
didn't have to, but we were given the opportunity to write letters to our kid for their senior
retreat. And that was, you know, one of my, um, major focuses was just, I hope that you feel loved
because that was my goal for you to feel loved.
Okay, so Amanda, you're in the teenage phase now.
Can you give, what advice would you give to Andy on what she has in store and how to get
through it and maintain your sanity?
That's another thing too.
I feel like the teenagers, I used to be so scared of them.
Like I was like, I'm dreading when my kids get to that age.
And honestly, it's really fun.
Like, there's so, I don't know, I love the age that they're at.
I feel like I can go, like, spend the day with them and we can go shopping and get lunch.
And like, it's just really fun.
So I would say, like, don't be scared of those years.
I like that.
It's, they sound a lot scarier than they are.
And they do have, like, an attitude.
And, you know, we butt heads sometimes.
But I feel like, for the most part, like, they're so sweet.
They're like, I love this face.
I love it.
You guys are awesome.
Happy Mother's Day early.
To you both.
I hope your husbands have something fun planned or at least you just don't have mom guilt.
At the very least, and you feel loved.
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