The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - How to Score with Golden Susan Noles

Episode Date: January 23, 2025

Susan Noles of the “Golden Bachelor” isn't living life on the sidelines, she’s scoring with Mama Kelce.This diva is giving Amy & TJ all the details on hanging out at the NFL play...offs with Travis Kelce's mom Donna! Plus, where Susan is meeting men, what happened with "Golden Bachelorette" contestant Jack...and what Taylor Swift wants from her, allegedly.Email us at: IDOPOD@iheartradio.com or call us at 844-4-I Do Pod (844-443-6763)Follow I Do, Part 2 on Instagram and TikTokSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:35 Can't find a date. And you know the last place, the latest place, she decided to look at the VIP suite. Next to Travis Kelsey's mom at the Kansas City Chief's Gate. And with that, welcome to I do part two, folks. This is the podcast for folks who didn't get it right the first time around. It might be even the second, maybe even the third. This is the place to be alongside one of the other hosts. Amy Roboxing, weird to introduce you that way.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Yes, right? I'm one of your co-hosts on a separate podcast. Yes, so many of us feel your pain. We've been divorced. We've had our hearts broken. We've searched for love to no avail. And so we want you to know you're not alone. And we're all here to help in the conversation
Starting point is 00:03:19 and in actually trying to set some people up. Is it going better for you now? You just described a struggle in your love. And it sounds like this is the podcast for you. If you need some help. I think she did pretty good to be doing with that itself. Oh, let me set the record straight in case anyone doesn't know. Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:37 I have happily found my forever person. Good for you. She happens to be sitting right next to me. And a good save, baby. On this show, we have, of course, Jenny Garth, Janet Kramer, the other two hosts we have. Folks like Kelly Bin-Simone, who's been one of the mentors helping some of the people find a date. So hope you've enjoyed this journey. We've enjoyed. I absolutely have. When this first came to us, I didn't know what to think, the idea of doing it. But now that we've been doing it, this has been some of the most fun I've had at our heart.
Starting point is 00:04:06 You know what? It's been a lot of fun because it's so relatable. So many people are in between relationships, looking for love, or are basically licking their wounds. They're frustrated. They're sad. They're heartbroken. And it's just something that I think is universal. Who hasn't experienced that? So it feels good to be able to have honest, real conversations about the challenges, the highs and the lows of, I feel like, figuring out what we're all here to do, which is to love and to find that partner and to have that relationship we're all looking for. And those conversations have been great that we've had on the podcast. The conversations have been even better that we've had in private with some of the folks. And the folks that we've met is the reason really why this has been such a joy. And I said two of our absolute favorite new friends, one of them, Kathy Schwartz, a lot of people are familiar with from the Golden Bachelor was a contestant there. And you can't, it's almost weird.
Starting point is 00:05:04 You can't say her name without saying the name. Susan Knowles. It's like peanut butter and jelly. It's bacon and eggs. You can't have Catherine, not Susan. But Susan Knowles is the other who has been looking for love. She's on the golden bachelor. But I mentioned at the top, we saw her looking for love where just recently in one of the most exclusive rooms in all sports. Yeah. Yeah. So Susan was with basically, I I mean, probably one of the most famous football players to date, probably mostly because of who he's dating. But, of course, we're talking about Travis Kelsey's mother.
Starting point is 00:05:47 And Susan had a front row seat in the VIP box watching it all. And maybe, I don't know, mingling with a few people. But, yeah, Susan is here back with us now. We wish we were in the room with you as much what we prefer. But Susan, it is always, always a pleasure. Always good to see you. We miss you. But for everybody, just give them the quick update.
Starting point is 00:06:11 We're going to get into your dating life here in a second. But give us a word. If I had to ask, if we asked you right now, Susan, how's dating going? Your one word answer would be slow. Okay. Slow, but not that. I did have a date. I did have a date.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Had one. All right. That's, hey, one is better than none, right? We went to play top golf. We had a great time. Okay. Okay, top golf, you said? Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:38 All right, you a golfer? Yes, I am. I am a golfer. I got one hell of a drive. Oh, wow. We could see that smiling face of yours. Always good to see you, of course. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Thank you for having me. But don't say thank you. Really, it's been a treat getting to know you over the past year or so. But you, of course, were, you do your own podcast as well, so you're familiar with this, Bachelor Happy Hour, the Golden Hour, with you and Kathy. I love that name. The Golden Hour. Because we are golden, I mean.
Starting point is 00:07:12 Yes. You know, you had your golden butt in a golden seat because you got a golden ticket. I sure did. Just initially, you just have to explain this to us. How is it you ended up in there sitting next to Travis Kelsey's mom for the playoff game? So Donna and I met last year. We did a job for a company. and we were hired again this year, and that was part of it.
Starting point is 00:07:37 So we did filming all day, and Donna and I go way back. So, of course, I had to wear my other Kelsey, her other Kelsey's son, Eagles, Jersey, because I was a team game, right? Yes, yes. And everybody, my phone was blowing up, my friends, wait, are you going to meet Taylor Swift? That's all they cared about. Seriously. And from what I understood, because Donna stayed for most of the game,
Starting point is 00:08:05 and then she went over to their box, and Taylor's families there and everything. And I said to one of the producers, so everybody wants to know if I'm going to meet Taylor Swift, obviously not. And she goes, you know, she said she wanted her picture with you. Oh, geez, nice. So Taylor, if you're out there listening, I would love to do that. But I know the game was not the place to do it. As you all know, it's difficult for her to do it.
Starting point is 00:08:31 to get in, you know what I mean, with all the security and such. But yeah, that was like a little thrill, yeah. You were close. You were very close. How many boxes or sweets down was she from you? Three, I think that's right. Maybe next time. Maybe next time.
Starting point is 00:08:46 We'll see. Donna is also divorced. She is single. Is she ready to mingle? Did you all talk about dating? Yes, you know me, Amy. Come on. Of course I talked to her.
Starting point is 00:08:58 And honestly, no, she's like, really? I am good. She's doing just fine. She's enjoying her life as she should. And yeah, no, I don't think she's where I am. Really, in there, during the game, sitting next to Travis Kelsey's mom, you all still just become women talking about, I guess,
Starting point is 00:09:19 girl things. Well, women, baby. We are women. And it wasn't our first meet. You know, we know each other. We spent time before. So, yeah, I quiz her. What's going on in your life?
Starting point is 00:09:30 You know. So she's uninterested in finding someone at this point in her life. She is happy with her single status, and that's how she wants to keep it. Yes, yes. That's what I gather. But that doesn't register for you. Do you listen to someone? No, I want to find my person.
Starting point is 00:09:45 I want somebody to miss me and get like butterflies when I see them come in the room. You know what I mean? Good sex, good loving, good caring, have fun, play golf. Yeah. I do get that. And I love hearing you say that because I think. I think I could be wrong, but a lot of women, and I'm not saying that Donna Kelsey, she's, I'm sure there are plenty of women who have zero desire to start again and to deal with
Starting point is 00:10:10 relationships because as great as they all are sometimes or even initially, they're messy and they're hard and they're difficult and they require work. So I get it at a certain point, you might just be like, I'm done. I got my girlfriends. I got my kids. I might have said this before. Isn't it, don't they say when you stop looking, that's when you find somebody. Well, I've tried that too. Didn't work. Maybe not long enough. I don't know. My eyes are always open.
Starting point is 00:10:38 I think a lot of women might be afraid to say they want it. I think a lot of women might be unwilling to be vulnerable to say they desire what you're saying. I desire because they're afraid it's not out there. They're afraid of rejection. They're afraid they're age. That, yes, that the older guys or the guys who they'd be interested want people, women, 20, 30 years younger than them.
Starting point is 00:10:59 So they're afraid to admit. Yeah, that's Kathy's whole thing. They don't want me. And she's healthier and better shape than most people, 10 years, 20 years younger. But it's true. And I ask you, D.J., men prefer younger because of the number. I think, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:11:19 I mean, we could look good. I think I look good for 67 years old. You look amazing. I can stand next to any 57-year-old. Oh, my own. We get so caught up. in that because i know plenty of men that don't under any circumstance want to date someone in their 20s or maybe they're early 30s not that young i mean but no i think okay yeah but yeah i get to your point
Starting point is 00:11:42 i get what you're saying but it it is a matter of you have to get to know people and attraction is not just by what i see across the room it's what i actually inside about the person whilst i get close to that person who might be more beautiful up close um than from across the room once you actually get to talk to someone. Yes, insight. And that's the problem, I think, with all the dating site. It's not that I'm against them, but I went off prior to going on the show even. I just gave up for a while. But you're looking at a picture and you're reading a very short bio. That's a tough game. You know what I mean? If you're introduced in somebody that you might not even be attracted to, but you're getting to know, all of a sudden you find that they're so attractive, not physically,
Starting point is 00:12:27 but because of exactly what you said. Yeah, isn't it about the conversation and how much you can laugh with one another, how much you can relate to one another, because looks fade. And once you get a little bit older, you realize that in a very dramatic way. Like, hey, oh gosh, I know. You know, so this ain't hanging around. And if you don't have something deeper or better, it's not going to last. So do you find, I don't know how many sporting events you go to, but is that a good place to
Starting point is 00:12:57 to date or at least to look around for potential dates? Maybe not during the playoffs. I mean. They're kind of focused on the fields. Yeah, a lot, a lot. And the freezing cold weather, too, that didn't help. But there was, there's quite a lot of men, but most of them married. You know, I don't walk around with like a sign on my head saying, I am available.
Starting point is 00:13:20 As a matter of fact, I've been told more than a few times. I'm clueless. Like, people say, didn't you see that guy looking at you? I go, who? No. Like, I'm on a mission. I'm going to where I'm going. You know, I don't slow it down a bit.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Maybe that's what I need to do. And I have, as you know, a large personality. So someone would have to enjoy that part of me. You know, Susan, I'm curious about that. You said you don't notice the sign sometimes. Are you doing something different or doing something to address that? Because that's a big deal. Well, could you tell me what to do to address?
Starting point is 00:13:56 that, slow down and look every person in the eye, because I could look at it in the eye. The awareness and an engagement, I guess it's a matter of just making sure you stay in the moment and where you are versus maybe, like you say, your head is down and you're focusing on. No, my head is never down, TJ. Well, yeah. My head is never. But maybe it could be swiveling. I mean, the thing is, when you're in your 20s and 30s, think about it.
Starting point is 00:14:22 And you know you've got a little bit of, I don't want to say power. but you know you can maybe turn heads, right? Or you can get some eye contact. You can have that knowing glance with someone that is the first step in flirting or at least saying I'm available without saying I'm available. Yes, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Maybe when you get older, you don't feel like people are looking at you as much. You do, in a sense, just kind of rush across the room. You don't take your time and say, hey, not only notice me, but I'm noticing you. Maybe we don't think we could or should. And we did when we were younger, didn't we? I think, well, I got a lot of attention most of my life.
Starting point is 00:14:58 And then I had children and then my daughter grew up and she got attention what she was with me. But I get the nice old people and Wawa, I'll turn around and say, ma'am, do you know you're beautiful? I said, oh, thank you. I'll take what I can get. Hey, Wawa, wow. We're talking to a Philadelphia gal here, Wawa. Some people didn't catch that.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Oh, the Wawa. You know, we were taught, you started off the top here. didn't expect that news or you were talking about this date you went on recently. Do tell as much as you can. Who is this guy? How'd you meet? And will there be another date? Yes, they'll probably be another date. He was quiet, quite the polar opposite of me. And he didn't know who I was. And I asked him not to Google. He did. He Googled immediately when he got. Probably. I don't. I really don't think he did. And he was surprised when we sat and we talked for a couple hours before we played top golf. And he was really easy to talk to.
Starting point is 00:16:04 And I shared some things about me and my life and said at the end how grateful I was for my life. I've had a great life, long before a golden bachelor. Like, I'm in a good place. And I asked him the same. And his wasn't as happy as mine. you know and it felt bad but now everybody has their stuff so right away is that a red flag he's never been married and never had children how old is he 56 oh he's a younger guy of course he is i don't care about the number i don't i don't care if he was 76 but he had he's nice looking
Starting point is 00:16:46 he was tall enough he was pleasant and quiet and we talked about my personality i said i'm lot because you are he said but I like it it was nice well maybe he's a really good listener and he appreciates someone like you who can spice up his life you know I mean I think that look if you have shared interest if you have shared goals and all of that that's important but it's kind of nice to have different personalities I'm an extrovert you're an introvert right that's true and you don't realize that but yeah listen a lot you're an introvert see look everybody's he is he is really it is In social settings, he actually, you know, you would know because he loves talking to you and Kathy, but he's not, he's discerning in who he speaks to and he listens a lot.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Very happy, sitting in the corner of the room, just watching it all happen. Watching Amy walk across the room and skidding the butterflies. I guess. And you know me, I'm like, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk. So I do think that that works to have, to have, you can't have. Talk talk talk talkers My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly And now I'm seriously suspicious Oh wait a minute Sam Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit
Starting point is 00:18:05 Well Dakota, it's back to school week On the OK Storytime podcast So we'll find out soon This person writes My boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot He doesn't think it's a problem But I don't trust her Now he's insisting we get to know each other
Starting point is 00:18:18 But I just want her gone Now hold up Isn't that against school policy? sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. It's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive
Starting point is 00:18:42 finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Dr. Joy Harden-Brandford. And in session 421 of Therapy for black girls. I sit down with Dr. Ophia and Billy Shaka to explore how our hair connects to our identity, mental health, and the ways we heal. Because I think hair is a complex language system, right, in terms of it can tell how old you are, your marital status, where you're from, you're a spiritual belief. But I think with social media, there's like a hyperfixation and observation of our hair, right? That this is sometimes the first thing someone sees when we make a post or a reel is how our hair is.
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Starting point is 00:21:06 Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psycho babble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. besides the golf was there a meal involved drinks involved we sat and had a couple drinks and a meal a little bite and then we were at top golf so we ate there and then of course i
Starting point is 00:21:36 forgot my glove i ran downstairs to get the glove yeah and we played for a while it was good i was i was doing pretty well like i promised him it's not that good when i get out on the course but He was a little intimidated, but I think he can play real well. And that's a plan for the spring that maybe we'll play some golf. So how did you all meet? How did you end up on this date? Were you set up? Were you?
Starting point is 00:22:02 Actually on Facebook. Oh, okay. How did that go through? Kathy said there was Facebook dating, I think it is. I went on for about 10 minutes. He messaged me and we chatted for, I don't know, two or three messages. And that girl, and I said, would you like to exchange? change digits, it might be a lot easier because I don't get on that.
Starting point is 00:22:22 So that's what we did. Is he local? In Philadelphia. Oh, that's great. That's great. Oh, we're liking this guy. Do you, do you, this is so interesting because I don't know if it depends on what age range you're in, but do you still play games and don't, and wait to text back?
Starting point is 00:22:45 Oh, no, I was never good at that. No, you're kidding. I suck at that. Actually, everything I read that what we shouldn't do, I do all the shouldn'ts. You know, I'll text first. I'll ask them out. I don't care. Let's just do this.
Starting point is 00:23:01 You know what? That's what's so nice about getting older is that you have the confidence to just be yourself. And if they don't like you or they want you to be playing games, they're not for you anyway, and you just learn sooner, which is better. So how often do you guys chat or talk? A couple times a week. It's new, really new. Like, it's been two weeks.
Starting point is 00:23:22 And then I was traveling, so, yeah. You know what? How do, when we're younger and we are our 20s or whatever, we start dating people, you have a thought of, as this person, you think about marriage or kids, right? You're seeing your relationship kind of play out a certain way. When that is not on the table, when you're not trying to build a family, I guess, how do you lead? I guess that is it easier to look at somebody like am i going to enjoy your company damn that's a good point you know i gotta be able to have fun with you or be bored with you
Starting point is 00:23:58 be silent with you do you like to travel where have you been do you want to go back like things like that and that's where sometimes the intimidation thing happens because i've been everywhere i made it a point to go everywhere i love it i love to travel i've been italy six times And when I ask, you're half Italian, have you been to Italy? No. I don't come. You need to go. You could get him to go.
Starting point is 00:24:26 You can encourage each other to do things. But it is interesting. The intimidation thing I didn't think about. Yeah. Right. Yeah. What does that say? I mean, you're meeting grown men who've had sometimes relationships and families and careers,
Starting point is 00:24:40 but they are intimidated by just your life experience. Just by my present, like a lot of men through my life, because I would ask my girlfriend's husbands and all that I'm good friends with, what is wrong with me? Why? Susan, you're very intimidating. Why? As soon as you speak to me, I know, you guys know, I'm warm. I'm easy to talk to. I'm fun. Isn't it about control, doesn't, in a certain of some men, and, you know, they like to be in charge. And I think they know if they dated you, they wouldn't be. maybe i mean i'd like to be in charge a little bit certain way i'm running through my mind here how we talk about her warmth there's nothing but warmth that came but we're also not looking at her in that way i don't know it probably is intimidating i mean you i'm to say i mean you robs we talk about this you can be intimidating women who are who are just frankly independent who are that confident
Starting point is 00:25:40 who are that strong, who are that, who frankly sometimes isn't a damsel in distress. You're exactly right. Neither one of you two. If I, if this place is on fire, I would just say, all right, Sue, I'll see you outside. You don't need saving. Oh, no, no, no. See, that you just blew it. You just, that's a big no.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Right. You run and say, honey, let me get you out first. And then you'll say, I got it. He actually, actually to defend what he just said about himself, he would. And when we have had moments where there have been, we had one in particular where there was a dangerous thing. He immediately thought of me first versus himself. He protested you. As a man should.
Starting point is 00:26:19 He did. And he passed a test without anything to realize. So you did. Of being self-deprecating. And the point, even something as simple as you putting your luggage in the bin, in the airplane. She, I used to try to run and go help her do it. And she always, I got it, I got it. And that's fine.
Starting point is 00:26:36 I let you do it now, though. Yeah, I would too. Mine's always heavy. Right. But if it's intimidating to a guy, you all are those two people who, yes, you want, send the flowers, save me from the building, help me with my bag. But trust me, I can buy my own flowers. I can carry my own bag. Yes, we can, but we love it when you do it. Exactly. But you all are so outward. You two at least are in your strength. So are you suggesting that I lower it a little bit, be a little bit more soft-spoken and let someone. Nobody else take the lead? You don't want a guy if he can't deal. If he can't handle you, this real you, you don't want him anyway.
Starting point is 00:27:19 It might last for a little while, but at some point he'll not. Yeah. You have to, and there are plenty of men out there who appreciate strong women and who. Need one. Yeah, who need strong women, who had moms who were strong women, you know. And so they are actually seeking that out whether they realize it or not. But they're not everywhere. And I remember there were always.
Starting point is 00:27:40 a lot of men out there who I just knew immediately, like, there's no way they would be. It's not going to work. I ask myself that everyday, Susan, if I can't be doing for a day. Are you considering Susan doing anything different, switching anything up? Stop looking again. I mean, I wanted to try to go back on it. I joined, like, that Match.com for not even a month. It was a week, and I already deleted everything.
Starting point is 00:28:08 The profile was like, oh, I can't. I just can't do this. I am happy. I do want to find my person to get old with. I do. But I can't, I don't know, I don't want to say lower myself. That's the terrible freeze, but sit online and search through these pictures and these profiles and be judgmental. It's like, this is not healthy.
Starting point is 00:28:33 I'm all over the place. Why can't I meet somebody walking to the airport or in the grocery store? squeezing the fresh fruit to that point do you I'm curious because I struggle I would struggle with this if I weren't in a relationship but might push myself in this direction
Starting point is 00:28:54 do you go to restaurants by yourself do you have yeah to establishments alone and I won't pick up my phone it's like a job do not get on the phone do you know how weird it is sitting there
Starting point is 00:29:10 by yourself and there's all these 40-somethings and they're coupled and some people will chat once and a while a few words or I'll try to make fun with the bartender just to have a conversation and then I start feeling weird yeah and as long as there's food and a glass of wine I'm good when you're sitting there waiting it's like okay what do I do now I do this I like I enjoy what you just describe leave the phone down and just take it all in around you and enjoy a meal with peace i i don't mind it at all obviously i'm not there trying to date but it's i know what you mean i don't mind it either i'm not i'm perfectly comfortable but you're hoping that somebody looks at you right well you don't because you have your person but when you're alone you're like and i'm looking
Starting point is 00:30:01 around thinking they're way too young they're all with people just enjoy your meal susan Susan, would you vacation alone or have you vacationed alone? I have. When I was living in Philadelphia in the city, it was New Year's Day, and I was with my most favorite gays, and I was always with them every holiday. And I was the other one, the third one, you know, and I woke up New Year's Day and said, you know what, guys, I'm going to take myself to Italy for 15 days. I'm going to give six months to plan it, and I'm going. And it was like huge for me. And I did.
Starting point is 00:30:38 When I landed, oh, my gosh. This most handsome man with my name on him, I'm going to, oh, my God. I mean, he could have been my son, of course. And he takes me in the little water taxi. I was in Venice and drops me off. And I get up to this little tiny room and I thought, oh, what did I do? What do I do now? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:58 And that's when it began. My journey, it was fabulous. But there was so many times, so many moments that I wished I was sharing it with somebody. I'm like a hopeless romantic. I love romance. You know, I just, I got even emotional thinking about it because I feel the same way. Like, I can be alone. But when you experience something beautiful or watchful or fun or funny, you want to share it with someone.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Yes, yes, that's my issue. That's what was missing. I mean, I had the time of my life, and it empowered me in so many ways. It wasn't too long after that eat, pray, love, and I thought, where should I get next? Oh, my goodness. I know, I think it's one of those dreams that sounds amazing and is, but so scary to actually put into practice. I traveled a lot alone for work, and I did have moments where I was like, okay, I was alone in this mansion that I had and put up in and no one else ended up staying there on like in the seychelles with the indian ocean
Starting point is 00:32:07 pounding blocks below me and i just thought you're like why am i by myself your place alone for three weeks nobody's going to believe this right i would have gone wow this is awesome i have you should have called me aim i would join you but actually the truth is i was married at the time and those that those three weeks gave me clarity like of what i knew i wanted to do which was of and my merit. Well, you're in touch with yourself and you have time. What am I doing? Am I happy?
Starting point is 00:32:38 Where do I want to be? Yeah. No, there's a lot of aha moments that can come in those moments of solitude. But I know you're looking for that person. So you said, I mean, obviously you went on to Facebook and that has borne some fruit. We'll see what happens. Do you have a strategy, a plan of attack for this new? year for 2025 to find love? No. No, it's more about, I have some good news I'm going to share.
Starting point is 00:33:09 So I was opening an email and I never even heard of I-O-A-T-P, the international organization of top professionals, and I will be announced shortly that I've been nominated for the officiant of the year of 2025. Wow. I'm so excited. So there's a big photo shoot in New York under the NASDAQ building. My picture will be up there and they'll do a photo shoot. And it's a huge, it's all over the world. Like watching the videos from last year, this year it'll be in December in Las Vegas. And the people, like every walk of life and it's dripping and gowns and gorgeous.
Starting point is 00:33:54 And I'm like, oh, my God, this is me. I'm going to. So I'm tickled. Yeah. Tell us how you earned the honor, how you earned the award. I don't know who nominated me, but they said that they have watched and what I've shared with the public and what I do and my talk. You know, I'm all about empowering women that are over the age of 50 or 60 that we still have a light. There's so many possibilities. I mean, look at me. Who'd have thought? My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious.
Starting point is 00:34:33 Well, wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. It's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Dr. Joy Harden Bradford.
Starting point is 00:35:21 And in session 421 of therapy for black girls, I sit down with Dr. Athea and Billy Shaka to explore how our hair connects to our identity, mental health, and the ways we heal. Because I think hair is a complex language system, right? In terms of it can tell how old you are, your marital status, where you're from, you're a spiritual belief. But I think with social media, there's like a hyperfixation and observation of our hair, right? That this is sometimes the first thing someone sees when we make a post, or real. It's how our hair is styled.
Starting point is 00:35:54 You talk about the important role hairstylists play in our community, the pressure to always look put together, and how breaking up with perfection can actually free us. Plus, if you're someone who gets anxious about flying, don't miss session 418 with Dr. Angela Neil Barnett, where we dive into managing flight anxiety.
Starting point is 00:36:13 Listen to therapy for black girls on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. The U.S. Open is here, And on my podcast, Good Game with Sarah Spain, I'm breaking down the players from rising stars to legends chasing history, the predictions, well, we see a first time winner, and the pressure. Billy Jean King says pressure is a privilege, you know. Plus, the stories and events off the court and, of course, the honey deuses, the signature cocktail of the U.S. Open. The U.S. Open has gotten to be a very fancy, wonderfully experiential sporting event.
Starting point is 00:36:47 I mean, listen, their whole aim is to be accessible and inclusive. For all tennis fans, whether you play tennis or not? Tennis is full of compelling stories of late. Have you heard about Icon Venus Williams' recent wild card bids? Or the young Canadian, Victoria Mboko, making a name for herself? How about Naomi Osaka getting back to form? To hear this and more, listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain, an Iheart women's sports production in partnership with deep blue sports and entertainment
Starting point is 00:37:13 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. Hi, my name is Enya Eumanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect.
Starting point is 00:37:39 And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. you are forever optimistic even if something didn't go your way or this isn't happening the way you want and we've talked about that from personal and professional aspects of your life you are eternally optimistic and upbeat and just everything you say and your energy folks can't
Starting point is 00:38:12 see you right now but from the moment you just you're bursting right you're just that smile yeah Yeah, you're always there. So we have. I'm not kidding. We don't make a lot of new friends on purpose these days. Yeah, right, right. You know a lot of people, but friends are, yes. You're one of our favorite, favorite new people.
Starting point is 00:38:31 Thank you. It really is a treat to have gotten to know you as much as we have over the past year plus. Yeah. And people that are gloomy and do me, like I've separated myself from people that I've known since grade school that we're still friends, but I choose not to, because I tried. try to convince them, look at the brighter side. I'm so, such a believer in positive attracts positive and what you put out there, you're going to get right back at you. So if you feel a little negativity, be aware of it. Stop and rephrase it and change the thought. I mean, it really works. It totally does. I am such a believer in positive energy and it's so easy to start
Starting point is 00:39:16 complaining and we all do it. But I try to like say, oh, do you hear what you just did or said? It's in your head, right? And just say, how can I find a positive in what I just said? Like, stop, erase. You can always find the positive. And yes, if you can find someone else who has that same goal, because we're not all always going to be positive.
Starting point is 00:39:36 No, I have moments. Trust me. Yeah. Clearly, we all do. But if you know that that is important and you recognize how important that is to your overall happiness and your mental well-being, that's key to finding a person. And it gets you through the down parts, the sad parts. You know, it's got to get better. I was once asked this question, and some people look at me like, well, you love yourself.
Starting point is 00:40:00 I said, no, it's true. How does this feel this new celebrity because you were on TV and now you're a star? I said, you know, I was a star the day I was born. It's just time the rest of the world knows it. I mean, doing hair behind the chair for 40 years, you're a star. I perform every day in the salon when I worked in the salon. And I listen to people and help make people feel good about themselves. So it's a natural thing for me. I love that. You know, T.J., I don't know where you got it from, but you said to me, and you actually just said this, Susan, that you're looking for someone to grow old with. And T.J.'s like, you read somewhere that someone said, you should be looking for someone to stay young with.
Starting point is 00:40:45 And I feel like that's what you're looking for. Oh, I like that. Thank you. Ooh, that was like a goose bump movement. But it makes sense for it's hard to find folks like you anywhere who look at life that way, that I am just trying to be a kid for as long as I can. And that's what we all should be trying to do. So that is going to be a challenge for you.
Starting point is 00:41:06 Because most people just aren't built like that. I'll never grow up, though. I mean, I know, right? Proudly displaying or showing or talking about your Peter Pan syndrome. We're all responsible adults, but I have always tried to be in touch with my inner child. I try to slide across the floor. That's fun, yes. Check up the music and dance, right?
Starting point is 00:41:29 You know, oh my God, wait a minute, wait a minute, we forgot to ask, Jesus, cramming, who the hell is this Jack guy? Oh, yeah. Oh, Jack, God bless Jack. What's with you and Jack? The world thought, Susan and Jack, Susan and Jack, Jack. Jack likes to cook like I do. Jack was on a bachelor's. Jones Bachelorette.
Starting point is 00:41:49 Yes. Yes. And we did meet, and he'd be a great friend. Then why does everybody else think, you'll be great? Because we're both loud and we're both Italian and we both like to cook and we're both funny at times. So, yeah. That all sounds good to me. Two of the same as maybe not so good.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Okay. I hear you. That makes sense. That makes sense. But actually, too, like, thinking about that pool of men who all put themselves out there in these seasons. I mean, have you had the opportunity to, like, you know, in the other, I don't know, the other reality seasons, they have, like, the people who didn't get picked all go to an island together and, like, you know, whatever, in paradise, whatever, they have different. It's coming. It's coming.
Starting point is 00:42:33 So they said, rumor has it. So you can't, this is not. Rumer has it. But rumor has it. They're thinking about some golden paradise. And the first thing I said, of course, was we're not going to Mexico with bugs in no air condition. It's not going to work at our age.
Starting point is 00:42:49 It's so funny. I thought you were to say the first thing I said was count me in or sign me up. Well, they know I'll be in. Absolutely. I'm hoping it's like on a cruise ship or something. Wait, you want it to be on a cruise ship? I mean, better than bugs in no air. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:05 That's actually not a bad idea. That's like mixing one of our favorite. shows below deck with love island and then you're the bachelor and they just put them together and it's all the people who still are looking for love who didn't get chosen and put them all together and stir in a little bit of alcohol which always makes it extra fun and maybe some new meat too here's the issue women are not shy so those men that did not get chosen and they're all lovely men i've interviewed quite a few of them had them on our podcast and got to know them, and they're great guys. Most of them are taken. Their DMs blew up,
Starting point is 00:43:47 and I remember them saying it to us. Don't worry, ladies, when you get off here, you're going to get so many people asking you out, and we didn't. But the men did. Men, my age, aren't really on Instagram and social media. You're lucky if you get a Facebook, you know what I mean? And they're not doing that, but women do. We're all on social. media. So they've reached out. I know some one of them told me he had like 500 messages like people asking them out. And quite a few of them are in relationships. You know, Mark is with somebody and Jonathan is with somebody. Jordan's with somebody. Who's left? Maybe we need some new meat on this golden thing if there is one. I'm sound bad. Have you gone through that list of guys
Starting point is 00:44:34 because they've been vetted? I mean, have you I mean, you almost just put their names on a list and start checking them off. Okay, he's taking, he's taking, he's ugly, he's ugly, or whatever. But have you done that? Yeah. Yes. Absolutely. Those are obvious, obvious possibilities because they've said, hey, I'm looking for love as well. I'm older. I want, I want this. But they were looking for Joan with the long, blonde hair and the nice, thin, perfect body, and I'm not Joan. Joan is quiet. Joan is soft-spoken. And if I were the Golden Bachelorette,
Starting point is 00:45:10 it would be one hell of a show. We have a ball. I would love to see the guys they bring your way, right? But I think they did a great job choosing men. She had some very, very nice men. What would they get for Susan? Oh, her rose ceremony. Some of the guys would probably give the rose back.
Starting point is 00:45:29 Like, uh-uh, I can't take no bonds. Oh, God. But do you know, there's that other show? side of me, that romantic, soft, loving side of me. But for the most part, I like to have fun. I like to smile. And you need people to know that because you want to have somebody who's willing to have fun, too, or it's no fun, no fun. Have you told us what your, do you have an ideal man in your mind or like a way to describe who would be your perfect guy? somebody that's kind to everyone especially the person waiting on you at a table that i judge people
Starting point is 00:46:09 when they don't treat people with respect that's the biggest thing um physically i'd like them to be taller than i mean that's for sure even though i'm starting to shrink now so it's not such a bad thing but i like a tall man i like a man that's confident and can laugh. Yeah, I'm not asking for all that much. Confidence, tall as and she is. Yeah. That's tough.
Starting point is 00:46:40 I'm sure you know 100 of them, right? I mean, but folks, if you're listening, this is serious. If there's someone you know that you think is perfect for Susan, we absolutely want you to reach out to us. We are not kidding here. You can call us and email us. Follow us on the social media. All the sites we have.
Starting point is 00:46:58 All the information is going to be in the show, notes as well, rate and review the podcast, but if you think you know someone who is kind, who is, what was it? Confidence. And how tall are you, Susan? I'm 5'6. 6 foot. Perfect.
Starting point is 00:47:14 I was it at least 5'8. Oh, no. Oh, we want a 6 footer. Because you have heels on. What happens? Okay, six feet. I get it. Okay, so he's, you're 6 feet. I mean, what the heels? How tall are you with the hills? I guess 5.9. Okay. So, if you know, Most of my who's five, nine and a half and a buck.
Starting point is 00:47:33 Please reach out. You know what? If he's the right person, I don't care how tall he is, I'm way past that. Well, Susan, we are hoping that 2025 is your year and so many others who are listening to us. But it's always a pleasure to see you. And hey, when you do come to New York, please, please, please, please. I'm coming tomorrow, actually. Sarah B. living abundantly.
Starting point is 00:47:58 Do you know that? that show? No. I'm doing, I'm going to co-host. I'm going to co-host and we're doing four shows. Yeah. Okay. So you're spending the night? No, unfortunately, I have to fly to Florida and do a wedding the very next day. No, that mercy. It's not on course. And then we're going to Carmel. Are you coming to Carmel? Carmel? Did we get invited to Carmel? Yeah. We did. Yeah, I believe you did. I didn't get the invite soon. Amy, because you weren't there when I met his daughter, which, oh my God, I fell in love with her. I had her cracking up. She probably thinks I'm not. I love that. I sat right next to her, Amy, and I'm like, okay, I know I don't
Starting point is 00:48:38 dance like you, but I like this song. What do you think? We have fun. But that's the night. I think you guys were invited. I'm sorry. It was me. That's my bad. That's all me. Okay, introvert. Always ask me because as the extrovert, I will. I should have text you. I will. Yes. That's on me. Yeah, so we're going to get to play right near Pebble Beach there. Wait, you have to see Guy, the one that was the last one to go on Jones season. He has gone crazy. He went out and bought new clubs. He's taking golf lessons.
Starting point is 00:49:16 He had a whole new outfit, new shoes. I said, where do you think you're going? It's colds. He wants to look good. He wants to play well. He's waiting for all those DMs to come into his Instagram feed. He had a photo shoot for going to sake. I go, you are so handsome.
Starting point is 00:49:35 I mean, he's so funny and sweet. He's a nice guy. I don't know. I think maybe he's wanting to be the next bachelor or something. Yeah. Well, we shall see. Susan, Susan, thank you so much for spending some time with us. We want to let everyone know that I do part two is an I-heart radio podcast.
Starting point is 00:49:54 We're falling in love, T.J. and I would say staying in love is the main of the day. Thanks for listening, everybody. Let's start with a quick puzzle. The answer is Ken Jennings' appearance on The Puzzler with A.J. Jacobs. The question is, what is the most entertaining listening experience in podcast land? Jeopardy Truthers believe in... I guess they would be conspiracy theorists.
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