The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - iHeartRadio Podcast Awards Spectacular!

Episode Date: January 18, 2020

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Listen to No Such Thing on the IHeart Radio app. Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. No such thing. This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcasts with IHartRadio. It is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast, but Ben isn't here again. However, I have so many guests to fill in his spot today, even though is he really somebody you can replace. I'm not saying we're replacing him. I'm saying we have some people.

filling in. And those people include Brooks like Gavin DeGraw, Caitlin Bristow and Jason Tartick, Nick Viol, Tanya Rad, Beckettili, Yardley Smith, Jean-Claude Van Damme, Brooke

Burke, Megan King Edmonds, Dean Ungler, and my husband. And our first guests are sitting right next to me, and they are Caitlin and Jason. Hey, does it still feel weird to say husband? You said husband and I got like all tingling. I say husband any chance I can get.

Yeah, I would too. I call him husband. Yeah, I would too. I like that. You didn't even say my husband, Jared, you said my husband with such power. Yeah, like, we all know. Yeah. I know. Yeah. It does like have a certain strength about it. It does. Yeah. It does. Fiancé's like fancy and then husband's like, oh, you guys, you mean it. You guys are in. Fiance is flirty. Fiancy very flirty. Yeah. And boyfriend just sounds super like. like I'm in high school. Yeah. I know. There needs to be a term that's like not boyfriend and not fiancee. Like not man friend because that's really weird. See, I won't use like the word fiancee, I'm like, eh, it's too cliche.

I wouldn't use it. Oh, I love it. I see, I don't like it. You don't like fiance? No, I don't like fiance. You know what? What I notice about when I used to have to refer to Jared as fiancee is it's like so much less commanding than my husband.

Like if I was like, oh, thank you. I have to talk to my fiancee about it. like to make a decision it's like oh but see really it's your fiance yeah but like i've talked to my husband of course you have to talk to your husband before making it makes perfect sense yeah yeah it's more of a legit word fiance is very flirty i think about your what your wedding often too by the way it was just such a beautiful wedding seriously though it was like you know when you scroll through photos in your phone like looking for something to post something i always pass it it was just stunning it was really was thank you and those um photo booth photos that like everybody used

stupidly incredible. That's so insane. Yeah. Okay, so we got to talk about The Bachelor with you guys. Let's talk about the pregnancy theory first. So you guys know that this is the new theory out in the, on the cybersphere. There's a pregnancy theory? Yeah.

So now ever since we got an extra clip, you know, in the Super T's, we got an extra clip. You know, in the Super T's, we got an extra clip after Chris Harrison says, we have big news. We just learned it right now. then there's a new scene that they added where he's like lying on the bed and I I don't know if I'm making this up I feel like he had like ice on his head or something yes I remember what you're talking about yeah yeah and he looks super distraught now people are saying that because they keep teasing sex before fantasy sweet Caitlin you know about that oh boy I'm like am I the only one or am I the only one that was exploited for it you are definitely the only one exploited for it

Yeah. People are saying that possibly they're bringing that up so much because a girl gets pregnant and then he finds out there. I mean, it's really a bit of a stretch because, you know, like, you need how. I was going to say, I'm the boring logistics guy, right? Like, think about that weekend. Yeah. How many weeks would you have to know? That's what I'm saying. No, but you need, like, don't you need just two weeks to really know? Like, if you miss your period and you were ovulating two weeks earlier, you just need two weeks. weeks. But then I'm thinking, are you going to have to call him like Mory,

Mori, whatever his name is? He is not the author. No, like, he obviously would be the father, but who is the mother? Because if you're having multiple women and. What do you mean who is the mother? The one that is pregnant. Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. You told me, no, I was confused.

Wait, now I, my whole theory is. My whole theory is screwed. I'm just thinking like, wow, I really did not think this one through. You're right. I'm going to make you feel better. right now. Okay. One time, um, I had to write a Spanish essay, my sophomore year of high school, and I spent 30 minutes trying to find Spanish letters. Oh. Yeah. Okay, that does make me feel a lot better. So you just thought, you know, what I'm getting at is that's going to be a dramatic thing,

but I'm, I don't know. I feel like maybe they're going to, it's going to be like, oh, she thought she was. But like, there's no way. Yeah, there's no way. I don't think so. I mean, I guess it's a possibility. It is a possibility. Of course it's a possibility. Some crazy people that I, don't think there's there's absolutely no legitimacy they're like Hannah Brown comes back and says that she's pregnant it's like no because she wasn't part of his season you have to have sex

so that would be crazy but I just thought my theory was based on your theory when I read what you said thinking that Hannah wins dancing with the stars says she's thinking about him and that she wants to be with him still I think I mean I'm still wanting you to believe that can I just ask

you what you think about that what do you think about Hannah coming back and not joining the season and then um them possibly like what do you think of that whole situation what do i do i feel like it's appropriate if she were to actually come back and be like or anything like what is it just your thoughts on that whole hannah and peter situation i'm okay with her coming back i'm okay with what she already did which was come back and like express her emotion but then if she were to like tell him at the end of all this hey just letting you know i'm still thinking about you yeah then that might be rude yeah I think it's done I think you had she you know she had to come back she gave the wings back

that was cute then she led the date that was very production based and then I think when she was in the back we can all relate to this when you're back in the world almost like the PTSD the emotions manifest and I think that was very raw and authentic but I think it's done like I think the whole hannah be that's my theory we won't see her again on this season and her and Peter's relationship is over and they're going to like root for each other's happiness okay so that is probably what happens. What annoys me, if that is the case, is like, their last scene was so inclusive. Like, so inconse.

There was no, there was, it was inconclusive. It was left open. Yes. It was ambiguous for sure. Didn't answer any questions that were brought up the episode beforehand. Which makes me think there's something left to be said at the end of the season. See, I think she, I think her intention was like, listen, I'm going to check the boxes, give the wings back, lead the date, I'm done.

And then I think it all just kind of hit there. And that's why there wasn't an answer. because I don't think she expected to react like that. And she definitely wasn't going to be like, well, yes, I'll join the house. So she was like, I'm not even going to answer that question. Right, right. Yeah, that's crazy. I guess I just wonder why there wasn't even ITM.

Like, there weren't even interviews after that scene. Like, he was like, I would have canceled this portion of the date now and I'll see you guys later. And I thought that we'd see him in an interview for hours, just sobbing and like trying to talk out his feelings. It was nothing. He literally just went into the date night. Like, nothing. happened. Bizarre. Super bizarre. Super weird. I'm glad you guys think it's as weird as I do.

Yeah. It was super weird. Peter is saying that reality Steve says that he can't be, he can't have an accurate prediction this year for a fact. This is what Peter saying. Does reality Steve say why? No, but reality Steve, that's not, I'm saying Peter is saying there's no way that reality Steve can spoil his season. So like, does that mean that Peter doesn't even know how his own season is?

Like he's still making a decision? It must. I guarantee that, well, there's no other explanation. Even if he picks nobody, reality Steve would still know that. So. Right. So is that a spoiler in itself? Like he doesn't pick anyone or he's still trying to pick someone.

He's still trying to pick someone, I think. Because otherwise, that's the only way you couldn't spoil it. Yeah. The only way. Yeah. Especially today. Like you can trace who follows who all the crazy stuff people do to be able to like back into it. And for it to be actually unspoilable, then he has.

to have made no decision and something must happen between the finale and when AFR is fair. Yeah, like something. His decision must be made on after the final race. But then Harrison,

like in those teasers, Harrison comes back and tells him something extremely dramatic that he's like shocked at the finale, right? Like you could tell he's got his like, I think it's his

full tucks on. So it's got to be the final team. Were you here for the first part of the conversation? Isn't that what we were talking about? When he had the laid there and, yeah. That's what we're thinking

like that somebody's prank Because, oh, see, no, I'm saying right there is when, in my opinion, that's when, like, something happens where no one's picked. Like, so that's why it's unspoilable because there is no decision. But he was going to pick someone before Harrison said that. Sure. Like, so maybe someone, I don't know. He's not over Hannah.

I don't know. Maybe he, someone doesn't, maybe he picks someone and they don't pick him back. Ooh. No, that he'd still know that, though. Oh, yeah, that's true. Yeah. He, I think the last season he wasn't accurate on was yours. Yeah.

Well, then he went back and said something like he caught it in the middle of the season or something, but his initial spoiler wasn't true. No, he didn't catch it until I spoiled everything. Oh, that's right. That's right. That's right. Oh, my gosh. Yeah.

Of all seasons for him to be wrong on. And then I go and spoil it. I love it. Oh, my goodness. I like being unspoiled, by the way. I have no idea. this is awesome. I love it. That's my next question for you guys is do you get spoiled every season because some fan will write under your photo and your caption, your comments and be like, it's so

and so. And it's like, why would you tell me? I'm trying to watch it like you guys. Some girl just slid into my DMs and she goes, Caitlin, did you see this? And it's him on a hometown. And I was like, no, I didn't. And I'm trying to avoid spoilers. And she goes, yeah, me too, but somebody showed me. And I'm like, uh, thanks. Yeah, no, it's spoiled now. I, I mean, spoiled for who goes to hometowns, but I hate spoilers. I hate them. I love the, like, I don't know, the surprise at the end. I love being on my toes the whole time. I just, I don't like spoilers, but it always happens because people comment under it. But I try to not look. Like, even if I know it's bachelor related, I'll try and not read the comments. Or even right now, watching Gray's Anatomy. Everybody knows what

always happens. But when I tweet it, I don't read the responses because I don't want spoilers. What's these are any one right now? Five. Oh, wow. You're going fast. I'm in the thick of it. Jason I heard that there's like some issues in the relationship because she's binging so heavily and that's what you did all December yeah it's not stop it is like anytime Caitlin is is on the couch it's grays anytime she's going to bed it's grays and then I'm saying it's grays he does one whole blown gray he does one thing and I'm like McDreamy would do that for Meredith seriously though you did that on the plane yeah I'm like hey do you love me as much as McDreamy loves Meredith I think he does you'll

end up learning to love other relationships too because between five and ten there's a lot of other really great relatable relationships okay and i just feel so sad for you just because you're going to go and you're going on this great binge yeah like i did two years ago uh two three years ago yeah where i did 13 seasons in like 10 months dang but then when i got up to the live episodes i was like no yeah i know i keep bracing myself for it to not be as good how many seasons are there. 16. It's still going.

So I dropped off the beginning of 15. I just couldn't do it anymore. Really? Okay. Well, I still have a little ways to go. Yeah. At least two months. Worth of binging.

Lovely. I got two more questions. I don't care if they're telling me to wrap up. You little badass. I didn't do that. We just did our first live podcast and you're like the queen of live podcasting. Do you have any good advice if we continue to do more dates? You did a live one?

Yeah. in LA here? In San Francisco. Oh, how did it go? Was it fun? It was good. Yeah. Yeah, it was really fun. I mean, the audience was, gets you hype. Yeah, they do. I think, I think my only advice is just like, I don't treat it like a typical podcast, like interview style. You kind of have to just feed off the audience. Okay. And the audience wants crazy, behind the scenes, funny. Like, you can't do it like a typical interview style. So I would just say incorporate the audience and make them feel like they're part of the experience. Okay. I really. like that advice. And my finale question is, which dog prefers who? Pino and Rahman, Jason and Caitlin. Who's the best buds? So, Ramen definitely prefers Caitlin. Pino prefers myself. That's for sure. Yeah, I would agree with that. Pino, yeah, I would say that. You wouldn't admit that, though, until we got Pino. No, I would admit that. No. A hundred percent. You never like, you're like, no, he loves us both the same and he follows me around too and I'm like okay whatever makes you sleep and correct I knew for I tell everyone from the minute we had ramen ramen was like

ramen was loves Caitlin but loves and I've always said he loves females in general like so Caitlin wasn't around I brought him back home immediately he attached to my mom and then there was another instance we brought him around immediately attached oh to Sydney remember we left we left the dog in Canada so now you're trying to take it away from me that he loves me more oh no no no He absolutely loves you more. But, yeah, I was just saying that was one of the things. Well, Rahman might be my favorite child, too, but I love Pino's so much. But I'll secretly, like, whisper to Raman and be like, you're still the king of the house.

I love you so much. You're my baby. Are they both from the same place? Yeah. Bodies, buddies, buddies, both from South Korea. They're both from South Korea. Same shelter house, like, everything, yeah. I just sent in their DNA tests, and I'm, like, praying to God, their brothers.

That'd be awesome. I think Pino's part bear. Pino is a monster. Pino has more of like a full face. Raman's very like delicate and like Pino's just a big potato. I love them. All right. Thank you guys.

Thank you. Always get to be here. Good luck at the podcast awards tonight. Oh yeah. We should also probably talk about that. We are here right now in honor of the podcast awards, the IHeartRadio Podcast Awards 2020. Caitlin and I are up against each other. little friendly competition yeah i'm not i've not feeling competitive with you though i'll just as happy if

you win as if i win me too and let's be real it's eye heart awards you're gonna win i don't think so i think it's like the opposite i think they're like oh we can't be too obvious so we have to not choose any who else is in our category i had nick is in our category oh oh as long as i beat him okay now that's real friendly competition all right thanks guys thank you My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon.

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an iHeart women's sports production in partnership with deep blue sports and entertainment on the iHeart radio app Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts presented by capital one founding partner of iHeart women's sports we are back at the special iHeart podcast awards podcast with a couple guys who have a podcast called how men think on the iHeart radio podcast plaid. platform. We got Gavin DeGraw and Brooks like here in studio. Tonight, Gavin, you are going to be performing and Brooks are going to be introducing him. That's correct. The big surprise, though, is I'm going to be featured. I'm going to do like a, like, you know how sometimes like a notable artist comes in to feature on another notable artist. So that was sort of what we have in line.

That's what we have in line for that. What a sound. I did, I played some rock band like a week ago, so I'm dialed in here. band. That's so vintage. That's awesome, but like, are you really going to, like, sing? That's a surprise. I feel like you could sing, though. You have a good tone to your voice. I totally don't. It's amazing. To be honest, have you seen me play hockey? Exactly. So here's the thing, Ashley, I respect and love and admire the art of singing. If there was one skill in the world that if I could magically snap my fingers and a choir, it would be the ability to, like, really sing. I am the worst singer in the world, but I love music and I I can't wait to see my buddy perform.

That's very kind of you. Yeah. I can't wait. I'm super excited to see him perform. He actually has a great speaking voice, and we should leave it there. Yeah. You know what? I appreciate the support, bud.

Damn it. And he has the gift of gab. That's a very important gift to have. Have you heard him on the podcast yet, by the way? Yeah. He's amazing. He's so good. He's an absolute natural.

You guys have two other co-host, Demetri, and Rick over there. Say, hey, guys. Hey. Hey. So the following questions I'm going to ask to all four of you and men, what are the top two things that you guys think that women don't understand about men? Because you guys get emails all the time. Like, what are the two things that women are always asking? That women don't understand about men?

Yeah, like what are they always trying to figure out? You know what I think? I think that they think that we're not sensitive sometimes. And I think that we're much more sensitive than we let on. okay yeah that's very good point that's true you know sometimes if I say something's a little sensitive someone like oh you're just being butt hurt and it's like no I'm not I can have a feeling yeah and I can be upset about something I'm not right now so we're clear it doesn't sound like it we understand that I get a little I think I think down the knife I really think that's truthful

I think and that's part of our mission with our podcast is emotions are real and men have them and I was talking with somebody earlier about this that men's emotions are just as strong as women's we just maybe don't show them as much I think the other thing that maybe women might mistake about men is, and maybe they do, maybe they don't, I don't know, but sometimes a man can be looked at like he's figured things out, he's supposed to know, like, we don't know, we don't know the answer, we don't know how to handle this situation, we're trying our best, but like a lot of times we might be looked at for some sort of guidance or leadership or anything to handle something or to be a safe place for

something, and we're flying by the seat of our pants that we don't know. We, you know, I've been through some of that stuff recently in my life. We lost our dogs. Like, I don't know how to, I don't know how to handle that. Like, but I'm trying to be there for my wife. I'm trying to, I'm trying to go, I'm going through it too. Like, um, there's a lot of times in our lives, whereas men, we really don't know, but we just, we try, try as hard as we can.

So can I ask you? Yeah. Did we bullshed our way through that question good enough for you? Quite possibly. Yes. Here's a question. What would you think that, or what do you think, um, women, don't women don't get it about men yeah or what is it something that you don't get about men

um you know you're recently married so that's a whole new journey i know i would say that like probably women get the rep for being like the moodier gender or sex and i feel like guys can have just as many different moods yeah i guess that kind of goes with the sensitivity thing what do you think why are you humming at me um Okay, I agree. Wait. No, elaborate. No.

Why not? You'll hear it on the podcast another time. You're going to respond on your own podcast? Yes, I am. I would tend to agree with you. I think I'm pretty even keeled somewhat, but that doesn't mean I don't have emotions. Right. But I think men in general, maybe, maybe I'm generalizing and painting it with a broad stroke,

but maybe are a little more even keel in general. what's been your favorite podcast topic to discuss in like the what nine months you've been doing it guys what do you think i mean we always have a real good time answering questions from people because that's real that's our honest opinion yeah um we've talked about sex a lot which you know we're not good at yes you're not good at talk about it or you're not going to do it the hips lie to be honest to be honest Ashley we started the podcast

to try and create a safe space for men to talk about things that they never talked about and part of my mission with this was in a locker room dudes don't talk about anything other than the game we're playing tonight and I saw guys really struggle in their life even though they could perform in their career in their life they struggled

and it's because we just didn't talk about stuff So we will, as guys, want to be a place and have a conversation where we lay our weapons down, talk about things that actually are going on and truthful in our lives, even though it's maybe hidden by a rough exterior or something. There's actually like emotions and feelings and insecurities and stuff going on in our life. And topic-wise, I don't know exactly which one's my favorite, but I love the mission behind it. Yeah, I love the mission behind it too. I mean, everybody loves the movie what men want and what women want.

want and I feel like you guys are just trying to kind of like crack the code in between the two sexes right I don't know we're just trying to bring it or just kind of like vent about it we're all in different phases of our lives too and and I think that it helps us kind of bounce things off each other and and I ask these guys for you know their opinions on things and sometimes I hear them talking about marriage and and their relationships and I'm not married so it's interesting hearing their perspective on things and sometimes these guys are kind of steer me toward, hey man, you know, you got to with the right person, your things are going to

you know, your mind's going to change on certain things. So these guys are all, they're in for the long haul with somebody. I'm not, I'm not there in my life yet. But vice versa, sometimes I think about becoming a rock star and I ask Gavin, should I do it? Sometimes guys are, hey man, you got a room on the bus?

He did a backed up bassist? Gavin, you've never really had a relationship that's made headlines or one that's been very public. Are you very private about it or have you not just have many relationships? I'm pretty private. I think I'm

maybe too private. But it's just the nature of it. And I think because I've been in the music world and seen so many public relationships fail or get too much attention, it's always been a little disturbing to me.

And I've always been also very fearful of like celebrity relationships. and just the headline sort of just the idea of people asking you about things that have like on the red carpet just freaking you out like hey man we heard that such and such is going on with you guys and that that's that's always been a phobia of mine you know as an as an artist is that people would maybe pay a little too much attention to certain things that are more private than than public like you don't want to Taylor swift it where everybody knows what the song's about who the song's about

pretty much basically yeah that that's been a phobia of mine you know I mean that's to me there's certain things that that you want to keep private and the second you start exposing someone else to that to that world it's sort of irresistible

for other folks not to pay attention to that type of thing I think he's real bad about it sometimes I bumped into him on the street and pretended like you didn't know me that's a joke right to get out of here all right How'd you know my name?

He's trying to buy some gum. Well, what are you saying? What are you going to be singing tonight? I'm doing a couple songs. A medley? Yeah, a little bit. A little bit of a medley, yeah. Just a little bit of a taste of what I do.

Me and a couple of my guys from my band got together. And we're going to do a little bit of something else. Just to spice up the night. A song called Soldier and a song that kind of kicked off my career in the public eye called I Don't Want to be. Oh. That's one that really kind of changed my life to begin with. I know. Got me out of the poor house.

All right. I actually saw you perform a soldier at the Thirsta. Oh, wow. Yeah, it was really cool. Yeah, that was an unbelievable night, man. So, so amazing. That was really a special evening, wasn't it? Yeah.

If you guys aren't familiar, the Thirst Gala is about building water mines in areas of the world that they don't have any fresh water. And people, like, literally spend their entire day going to fetch water. Absolutely. It's so crazy. Yeah. They'll walk miles and miles just to get a couple of gallons of water. And it's just incredible. All right.

Well, thank you guys so much for joining us. Have fun tonight. Thank you so much for your time. Really so nice. Yeah, Ashley, and I'll see you on stage with Gav for our special specials. I can't wait to hear. I'll wave to you. Wait to hear Brooks's rhymes.

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My next guest is Belgian actor, martial artist, huge 90s star Jean-Claude Van Damme and his son, Chris. And you guys are here to support and celebrate your new podcast. It's weekly. And it comes, it's called the damn good fight. And it's about, you know, how to achieve success through. tips of, you know, the physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual components of yourself, and that can be anything from just like your mindset to training and nutrition. And all of this, all the tips you're going to give us on this podcast is going to help us

achieve our life goals. Yes. We all have access to success. That's a great word. Access to success. Can you give us a tip right here on the podcast? But for example, I came in this country and got to success. blessed America with nothing in my pocket, but I did have, I did formulate in my mind an image of

success that I create in my mind. When I was young for many, many years, it became so alive into my head. I threw this image in the future of America. When I came and I walked in America, I was looking in my head like a star. I felt like a star and finally it happened. So It's like these types of secret, and also we'll have the point of view of the young generation that I cannot follow sometimes, like Chris and many guys around him, his age. So we'll have his point of view. We'll have him correct me when I make English. Cramatical. Exactly right.

A lot of the show, actually, if I may step in, Dad, just a couple seconds. A lot of the show has to do with representing a relatability factor with the world. itself right now everybody's damn good fight to the top what is worth fighting for to them individually speaking you know everybody has a damn good fight if you want to say it in the commercial aspect of things but it's true and um the relatability factor of the show and the people were going to be the guests essentially we're going to be interviewing can share their fight to where uh they've arrived with their success and they're in their lives so i think it's a very important show that can bring people together to know that you know someone like my father

and someone like myself and yourself and people in this room have a fight they're fighting for every day, their purpose in life. John, you just talked about the power of positive thinking, visualizing. How do you feel people who have a positive outlook differ in success than people who have a negative outlook? Okay. We cannot be positive all the time. I've got my downside a lot, and that will be described.

in the show like you and everybody else. Sure. But it's not like a technique, but it's a natural act of nature. And when it will be described in the show with other people, famous people, like he said, Christopher and my son, they'll come on the show. Maybe we'll have a champion from the UFC or a pilot, Formula One. Formula One. How you say in English? Formula One.

You got it. Race car driver, America. And stuff like that. So you, I mean, when you came here, where are you from, which state, are you able to become so successful in radio and stuff like that? Hi, my name is Ashley. I grew up in Virginia and I went on a dating show. But that's cool, right, to people, because everybody on our show will be a star. Not me, not Chris.

Everybody will come on the show. they will talk about stuff I didn't know about it like a live YouTube a visual not visual because it's not camera stuff I did not know about would be the correction there

because my son told me I was doing something nice he told me that yeah there's no camera on that show it's a it's a talk show audio yeah it's podcast I didn't know so I thought it was a camera somewhere

he said that sometimes podcasts have video components to them. That's right. Why did you choose podcasting? I was right. Well, I think, you know, we were approached by, we were approached by a wonderful team. We're working with a team called, known as Cinematically. It consists of very, very important people in this, in this, in this, this show itself. And we couldn't be where we are without them. So we're very grateful for that. Cinematically has approached my father and I,

because they saw the dynamic between us. And they, when, when things start to get fluid on, on a, on a regular basis even at home we are just ourselves while interviewing people like right now and we just kind of work well off each other when we warm up to the to the correct RPM but um I think uh the good thing about this show is we have so much my father's been through and what I've been through being underneath such a large name like my father and the impact he has in the world it's very difficult to to try to um it's a fight within itself you know and it's like you're you're trying to cast your own shadow upon your own shadow from within a shadow that's DNA based so it's It's like, it's very hard to climb that mountain, but it's possible.

And coming from that side of the fence, it's nice to hear my father speak about things I never even knew about. And I think when we interview people who can relate to the pain he shared for his time to make it to the place he's been and vice versa with me and the guests we have on the show, we can really share some important stuff. And I think, I think we can go some more special with this because it's as raw and grit and real as possible. Our podcast is a lot about relationships because we talk predominantly about the Bachelor franchise. And do you guys ever expect to be talking about the damn good fight that is love and marriage and all that? I know that you've been married a few times, but you've been with the same woman since 1999 now. Exceptional. I mean, to be able to, first of all, I met my wife in front of me in a magazine in Belgium.

She was very known in Europe as one of the first bodybuilder champion without the Jews, you know, at the time. No steroids. The juice. The juice. Yeah, the juice. Very female-looking. And like, you know, so anyway, I came to Los Angeles, and I always wanted to be with that woman. And finally, we met, lucky enough.

So you basically met your celebrity crush. Don't do you. I was nobody at that time. So she took me in and then a pin down, but to be able to remarry the woman and for her to be able to wait and to forgive, it's something amazing. And that's why people like to stay around our family. When people come to our family, they don't want to leave because they see a wife like Snow White. They see kids like they're saying, yes, sir, lady, because they were born homeschooling. I was afraid for them to go into drugs because my past history and so well protected but also well instruct in terms of spirituality, intuition science, connectivity, stuff we can talk about people like, wow.

Connective science. You know, we don't know Jean-Claude. I didn't know about martial arts, but we can talk about even quantum physics, plasma and all that stuff. So they heard this crazy guy on YouTube learning what you learned when you're at school. And they have that type of education. When people come to our place, they feel this type of... Feel welcomed, and we can relate to people, you know? Yeah.

We love people. Yeah, we love people. And we want to do that with this show, yeah. And we love animals. We love animals. How many dogs do you have amongst you guys? Can I say the number count down? Please.

All right, so we start, we've always had dogs, either minimum two, maximum 13. In one, in one... What a heaven! Yeah. Everybody who comes to the house is welcomed by all the pups. But now we're at seven. bless those who have passed away and left as they left they read they lived long lives and they've lived great lives long lives and we they're all rescues most of them were rescues

from filming locations different sets around the world um we brought then a lot of my poor my poor mom my parents they they and my sister and i too we all helped and contributed with the traveling but it was such a hard a hard trip to bring some dogs you know quarantine avoiding quarantine all that all that stuff but we love we love animals big on ecology they they don't care about them on the street they were dying you want to take them out to save them and they give you so much headache it cost me 10 times more money to save a dog with all the papers and isn't it ridiculous it's so it's so crazy yeah yeah it's so it's um the way that i've adopted dogs has always been quite easy but i know that there's a lot of people who they have to go through so many hoops and

wait so many months just to get a rescue just like let's you know they seem like a good person You do a home check, okay? Right. Then let the dog have a home. And also in our audience, what we want to do, because I've got all those fans, and believe or not, you go, okay, it's full of, no one, I'm not, I create such a world in the social network. Around.

Yeah, yeah, worldwide. And we want to give this, not a message, but to give something for people to do, and we have a way to convince them. to do so and it's something very big that happens that happens that has to happen yeah very fast kind of emotional on that one with my words excuse me for that but what i think he's trying to say is that he wants to really bring in not only his fan base and viewers alike he wants to deliver a message he feels as important you know representing his damn good fight and representing what he represents now past just being a star past just being he's

personally you know basically and it's it's as relatable as it should be like other people coming on our show please open up to us and also our show is super optimistic we're not here to launch people and in your past and this and that we we live at the page we don't understand the past we do we learn from it but when a guy come to my show is coming at the page of today, because every day we change for better or worse. True. Well, said. Yeah, I think about myself even nine months ago and I'm like, I wouldn't have picked that outfit out.

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oh my god oh my god we have more people sitting next to me like my husband he's back you guys i know you're like this is a second podcast this week that jaron's been on is it really oh yeah the live podcast i forgot about that but i'm not alone i have my co-host from the greatest podcast that ever was help i suck at dating dean ungler suck army assemble help i suck it dating help i suck it dating we just kind of blew that a little bit we're going to work on that chant my first question for you is truly like the podcast pride is real. I've never seen somebody shout out their own podcast or get so hype when it's brought up. Then you two. Why? It's a movement. You know, suck army is a movement. It's not stopping. We're coming for the People Choice Awards.

2020. We're coming for podcast awards 2021. Because you're not nominated today. No, which, excuse my language, but it's bull. Viva la Revolucion. You want to know what's funny is, you know, in soccer matches, in international sports, the only team. team that shouts their name in the match is USA. We're the only ones that go, USA, USA. Every other country they have like a song or an anthem. Does that make us like obnoxious

or awesome? Horribly obnoxious. I don't know. I think it kind of makes it awesome. Well, I appreciate that because I feel like we're adopting that same mentality. Help I suck a dude. Help I suck a date. Who's that t-shirts made? I think I'm going to

dare Dean to get up on stage tonight as somebody accepts the pop Category award. We've already talked about this. Oh, we're pulling a full Kanye. Is there a relationships and dating category?

Because there should be. No, there's like TV and film. I think that's not. They should make it. But you shouldn't be TV and film. It should be relationships and dating. Yeah,

I agree. There might have been like motivation, which we could potentially fall under. I'm going to let you finish, but Jared was the best co-host of 2019. Dean, if you did this, you guys would get so many listens.

We literally have this exact conversation on the way over here. We'd be iconic, but the problem is Dean can't do it because, you know, he's not going to, wouldn't have because they would see him coming because you'd take so long security would tackle me well before i got to the mic oh at least 20 feet so it's on you babe i don't i don't think you'll be

able to pull it off in the same way what the hell is that supposed to me you know you're too like suave like it has i've got wouldn't that be a good thing you need to be swab we got to get jared we got to get him a couple drinks deep and i think he might be uh might be game i've never seen him a couple drinks deep you see me a couple drinks deep so how do we don't even know what he's capable of we don't exactly guys you don't even know the Beast Within. Have you tried the Bartesian out there? Oh, so good. We had it on Help I Suck at Dating weeks ago. Really? Yeah, we did for the Christmas episode. Babe, I was thinking like, we don't even drink mixed drinks in the house all that much, but we should get one of those.

I mean, it's pretty cool. Okay, so I, my biggest question, and I feel like the audience's biggest question for you guys and your podcast is, how can you still suck at dating if you're both in serious loving relationships? You want me to take this one? I would love for you too. All right, listen, listen to everybody who's listening currently right now. Listen up. Open those ears. Open those ears. Guys, we all suck at dating, whether we're in relationships, whether we're single.

It does not matter. Because there's all things that we could work on, get better at. There are aspects of marriage that I suck at. Tell me. Give them examples. Give me examples of what you suck at. I could do a far better job of surprising you. What do you mean surprising me?

Just bring it home flowers. I know. Why don't you do that? It's things that I'm currently working on. Really? I haven't seen any work. Ashley, because in all other aspects of marriage, I'm perfect. So I have to have one thing I suck at in order for the podcast to be successful. It's for the business, baby. This is why I don't get surprises, which you know that means so much for me.

I know. But I'm working on it. Dean, would you agree, though, that there's all aspects that we suck at? I think you know that right on the head. I think just because you're in a relationship doesn't mean you don't suck at dating. Just because you're married doesn't mean you don't suck it. dating just because your single doesn't mean you don't suck at dating. I think anyone can listen to the podcast and learn things because it's not just us sharing our experiences. It's also we have relationship experts, therapists, authors, et cetera that come on the podcast and divulge all of their information and all their wisdom upon us. And even like I was saying, you don't have to

be married in a relationship or whatever your status is. You can still take something from it, which is nice. You guys, later in the podcast, Nick Viol is coming on, do we think that Nick sucks at dating? Absolutely. Yeah. Duh. Why does Nick suck a dating? I think Nick is... And I say this as somebody who was part of the groomsman party that sits in front of me. Well, Nick will never agree to this, but I think he's picky.

Oh, my God. I think he'd agree with you. I think he might be the pickiest person that I've ever met. He's incredibly picky. Well, actually, it's up to me. He and I are like the same amount of picky. Like, there's always something wrong. Even if it's perfect, there's always something wrong.

And he's just the epitome of a single guy living in Los Angeles. It's hard paradox of choice. kind of like paralyzes people you know he's got so many options and it's Nick he's a you know he's acting he's obviously used to be the bachelor he's got a lot of things going for him and so a lot of women probably would want to date him and so sometimes that ability to choose things and mobilizes you and makes you question whether there's maybe something better around the next corner yeah that that's the millennial problem yeah is there something better especially with instagram now i'm sure nick's DMs are are off the charts blowing up daily how is it felt to not check that DM that other

DM section for you over the past seven or eight months. Well, I still check it, but I still check it too. Yeah, just for fun. Sometimes brands reach out. Yeah, because there are people that will reach on and be like, hey, do you want to like a pair of sweatpants and just tag us on Instagram story? I'm like, yeah, I would love a pair of sweatpants. Thank you so much. Yeah. But it does, it does feel good. I was walking through the airport the other day when we were flying

back from Europe and I just like randomly stopped dead in my tracks. Caitlin was well ahead of me because I'm very slow on my crutches. And I was like, I'm so glad I'm in a relationship. I don't have to be single anymore. It's just being single is exhausting I have a friend who just broke up with her boyfriend of two years this week and I keep thinking about her at 30 needing to be back on the dating field

and I'm like that is stressful especially since like so many of your other friends are in serious relationships like who do you go out with to like try to meet people and it's just like you it's a relatability thing yeah it's like fun for five seconds and then you're completely over it right so what is Kate what is Caitlin's number one

complain like about what you stuck at dating oh man well she's just so sweet she doesn't really complain about much of anything uh sometimes i get maybe drive the sarcasm home a little too hard publicly i feel like maybe not like between you two but i feel like like you kind of get on her at twitter sometimes or in interviews yeah that probably annoys her no but she maybe at first but she like uh what i really adore about her is she's kind of taking that whole thing in stride and now she spits it right back at me twice as hard. So it's like what she, what used to be her biggest grievance against me, she's turned

into one of my favorite things about her is that she's able to put it back on me too. That's so cute. My last question for you guys is well, sorry, babe, it's not for you. Well, it's like, it's harder for me to come up with interview questions for you since you're my husband. Yeah, we talk

constantly. Yeah. Dean, I need to know about all the things that you now appreciate even more about Caitlin after she went to Switzerland and like helped you trek through Europe and all like the nursing that she did for you like I want like a little bit of mush for the next 60 seconds oh my gosh much is not really my strong suit I know but it's so sweet when it does come out um I do appreciate her coming her I appreciate her coming out to help me there were a lot of time she called me and she was like hey I'm going to fly out to Switzerland and come like help you I was like no like don't

come I don't want you to like be bored in the hospital with me you're not going to be doing anything um and there were times when you know obviously she had like carry my luggage through the airport and she had a today actually was the first day since the accident that i put my own shoes on and tied them myself really proud of that um so she was responsible for doing that for me up until today basically and i kind of got annoyed at myself a few times because there were like things that she would mistakenly do or like forget to do like forget to get me something from starbucks or something so silly like that and i would like get kind of annoyed and then i was like wait why am i getting annoyed at this person that's trying to help me um but she was great every step of the way

you know, it's really telling of her to just kind of drop everything and come and help me through the recovery process in Europe. And I appreciate her for that. It would have been a much, much grimmer situation had she not been around. And so, Kaelin, if you're listening to this, which I'm sure you are, I really appreciate you doing that for me. And if the role is ever reverse, God forbid that ever happens, I will 100% be there for you as well. And I love you. Thanks, Ash. All right. Thank you, guys. are the best. Thank you. I love you. I love you too. Make sure you guys listen, subscribe to

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Right now I have this. ladies of intimate knowledge on Brooke Burke, Megan King Eggman, and Lila Darville. You guys know Brooke Burke and Megan King Edmonds, but Lila is a sex and intimacy and professional relationship coach. And I'm having my husband join me on this segment because you guys are the sex intimacy relationship experts. And we're going to get a little like sexy and this this uh so glad he's here because our show's not just for women our shows for men as well perfect and people think it's like this chatty girly just intimate knowledge deal it's for everyone so glad the hubby's here oh glad to be here you're kidding well it's kind of like girls listen to

the the man podcast because they want to know what um to do you know they want to know how to speak to their husbands and their their partners the best people want to know what the other sex is thinking Yeah. And so then guys should listen to you to figure out what women want. And they do. And they do figure out what women want. It's great. Everybody wins. What do you think men don't get about women the most? I know that's a very loaded question. But like, of all your listener questions that you get emailed, what's a theme that comes up all the time? Oh, go ahead. I feel like Lila would be good at this one. We know into the C is a big part of this.

yearning they're really yearning to be touched for their hearts to be touched for their to be seen i tell you this all the time can we just listen for a second i think like the real key to this is women are deeply yearning the presence of their man like to and and you know you started that out by saying touched but what she really means she means like everywhere so many ways soul soul so heart connection yeah like don't look at your phone when you're talking to me like i need you to make eye contact i want presence i want to feel you you hear, I want to feel you seeing me. In our first episode when we were talking about what intimacy means to everyone,

and it was incredible, it's so different. That's what we really talked about. Being seen, that's, I think, what we're all like yearning and striving for. I'm not sure men get that. What do you think? His wheels are turning. Are you being present right now? I'm very present.

What are you guys talking about? I'm just kidding. yeah i agree i mean from my experience being married and being in relationships yeah i guess women i think it's just a it goes back to vulnerability i think men have difficulty being vulnerable with their counterpart and so uh i think probably a lot of times you bring up looking at your phone while in a midst of a conversation most of the time i'm sure when guys look at their phone the conversation's about something serious and so they just avoid eye contact because they don't want to be vulnerable

because eyes obviously are a pathway to the soul so I think women are far more willing to be vulnerable and this is a it's a real skill actually to to

a skill and to feel a willingness to be vulnerable is really scary and to build the capacity to hold that like you said a lot of men like divert their eyes or draw their attention elsewhere instead of like deeply connecting because it can be a lot to hold

and so a man has to be deeply present within himself to be able to show up for a woman. You guys talk about sex a lot in the podcast. Yeah, we do. And here, should we get a little, should we like be a little revealing right now? Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, Jared's like, I don't know. Okay, so everybody knows that I was, you know, I was a virgin for a long time. That was my thing on The Bachelor. and I think because I started later in life I like have this thing where like I have such a hard time feeling sexy like I cannot present myself as sexy

like I can feel hot like I can look in the mirror and be like you're having a really good day like you're really pretty but like I can't like be sexy so like I need advice from you ladies you look sexy right now I was just gonna say I can feel like I look in the mirror and I be like yeah it look good but like I can't like put on like a sexy persona

see it's so interesting to hear you say that because you're body language is sexy and you are as like a sexy woman exuding that and this is an amazing conversation because it comes from within such a deep place and what we're talking about a lot on our podcast is about getting in touch and dialing in and discovering and tapping into all of the powerful feminine qualities that we all possess and sort of owning that and giving ourselves permission we talk a lot about permission to feel to discover and to find freedom in that and like I look at you even the way you like are moving you're so sexy in your in your body language so it's about i think changing your inner dialogue and you know that

inner messaging um and feeling it from a deep authentic place because it's actually already happening you might be in a little bit of denial oh thank you i think i think it's definitely my sister who like i know i blame her for this all the time it's because like all of my 20s she was like actually oh my god you're so awkward oh my god you're so awkward like i can't ever imagine you like that and i really think that it like went to my soul yeah yeah well you're you know one you are very sexy let me say this I do think you are awkward

but that's your per you're that's who you are as a human that's your most endearing quality but I also think it all goes back if I'm being honest to confidence but I'm so confident in every other territory that's what's so weird let me let me explain I think even Brooke like you guys you later's are saying

Ashley is very sexy right now because she's in a podcast studio on a mic very confident because she does this all the time and this is like this is your this is your thing you know you know like hey i got this i can interview i can podcast i can talk you're very confident in that area i think sometimes because everybody well knows you might be a little inexperienced in some aspects of relationships you lack the confidence and i think your awkwardness comes out because you're also the person that you can't hide anything so when you are feeling awkward you are putting that vibe out.

Yeah. And you're like, I don't feel comfortable and I'm, am I doing good? Is this not good? Like, I don't know. It's sort of adorable. And it's sort of adorable. But don't we all feel awkward at times?

We all feel awkward at times. Well, yeah, otherwise we'd just be arrogant. We'd be like walking around owning it and it wouldn't be as attractive. So that might be your most attractive quality. But when you tap into that, that sensual confidence, girl. Yeah.

Wow. It's an, and it's sexy is an, energy you know it's not like what someone looks like it's what how they are feeling and that coming through you know it's um it's really an energy it's someone who is feeling themselves you can see like someone who isn't what we deem to be sexy walking down the street but if if that person is feeling themselves yeah so their sense their senses are alive and that is emanating through their body that is sexy and that's what we're seeing in you right here when you're talking and You can, I can see and feel all the energy moving from your body and it's coming out.

Oh, damn, sexy girls. You're like really, you're feeding me. That we're going to talk about this on our, in our next episode, I think on Monday, BDE. Do you guys know what BDE is? So it's big dick energy. Oh, yeah. Like, and guys have it. Like a really confident, like, sensual dude will have BD.

And it's not necessarily a compliment or a bad thing. It just, it is. But women can have it as well. So it's this, it's this like. It's like a confidence, it's like an ambiance, if you will. And it's interesting. And it's kind of like this powerful feeling. I feel like that's what Pete Davidson has.

And that's why he banks all the cute, all the hottest chicks. Okay, if you Urban Dictionary, BDE, because I have, his name is on there. There we go. Because like he's cutesy and he's super funny. But like it's because like he radiates that. No. Swear. We just brought up Big Dick Editorbee.

I didn't even have it in my notes. And you know what? We thank God for the Urban Dictionary. We are learning this year, ladies. I'm back in the scene. I've got, I got to like learn these acronyms. I have,

Megan and I crack up about that kind of stuff all that. Because we're like Google searching, like speed searching. Oh, yeah. I have this. So I thought I'd bring this up on this podcast because I have this, um,

sponsorship with K.Y. coming up. And their new acronym is, um, it's a resting, pleasure to face instead of resting bitch face. And I feel like Lube is one of those taboo things with sex. What do you think is a taboo that people just need to get over and be like, you know,

we should just talk about it. I didn't add with them last year for Valentine's Day. Yeah. And I was, and I was like a little bit nervous. Yeah. Yeah. But I was like,

you know what? I have sex. And I am okay with that. So like, why am I not okay with telling the public that I have sex? I love that you did that. Right? Girl,

that's good. I love that you did it. And I get why. you were a little like hesitant about a campaign like that I get it yeah but it was empowering because we all do it yeah and honestly like we do like Loub right yeah we do no I'm glad to you that because I do think that like as a society we should be talking more about sex because the only way it doesn't become a taboo topic is is if people are brave enough to talk about it absolutely and Loub is a great example of that because people always feel weird

about talking about Lou but it is a part of sex I mean like we talked about there's like it's a gateway drug it's Remind me in our next episode to bring something up that I won't get into right now In the Louvre department Okay, do not let me forget Okay, code word coconut oil Don't let me forget

Coconut oil I heard was not good Because like oil can like make little cuts or something No, it is good for everything Oh sure Skin nails and everything I have false information Don't listen to me I have two more questions for you ladies

I have a friend right now who has gone on two dates with a guy She likes them a lot The conversation's great They have a great energy between them But she like doesn't feel Like it's her person Do you think that you always have to give

Three dates? Because that's always been The rule that my mom taught me That my sister-in-law She wasn't sure about my brother-in-law Until the third date I feel like the third date is a magical number and I'm just, should she give him the third date or like if you're not

feeling it's your forever person by date two then you just got to drop it. I don't know about what forever person maybe not forever person. I don't know what forever person means. If you're not excited I guess for a third date three days. If you're not excited for a third date do you go on one just to like give it it's all or do you cut it off at the second date? Three dates for me seems like a great investment of time

I mean maybe you get to the same. second date if you're in I mean I don't know like three dates is a lot yeah especially like I have kids like yeah no who the hell has that kind of time unless you're really into it okay I'd rather take a bath I would say no no follow I think she should follow her gut follow her instinct she doesn't have to have reasons and like kind of have logical explanations for how she's actually feeling that's what that's what she should be guided by like on paper he's good but like there's something in his in her gut that says nah that is going to be nagging at her or if she All night long.

Yeah, all night long if it continues, that first, like, thought and impulse is going to repeat. Yeah, I don't think we should be talking ourselves out of that gut feeling either and compromising, like, at the stage in life. Like, we're championing the mind over what is felt. And I think that's a huge mistake, actually. Amen. I love that.

Like, don't champion the mind over what, like, your heart and your gut are saying. We're obsessed by what our mind says rather than. Bingo. Yeah. I also have another friend who is, seeing a guy that she really likes, but the kissing is bad. Oh, what do you do? Get out, run.

Run. Train or train or run? I've definitely trained a few people. How do you appropriately train? I think they can be trained, absolutely. I think there's a lot of misleading. You might have had some very misleading information before. And so I think he likely could be trained.

So another girl made. have given him bad lessons. Bad feedback. Everybody needs feedback, especially with our, like, what we want, our bodies. Like, I think, I think we need some roadmaps. Brooke is like, no, I dump it. I just feel like I've raised four children.

I'm looking at Megan going training right now. Do you know how hard we're working on to, like, redesign our lives and raise our kids? Like, I would, like, long term, maybe if it's your... But just providing some value of information, like, a little to the left would be, you know, that's valuable. or like see I'm glows or like it a little bit slower yeah yeah I'm looking at my husband now and I know that this man doesn't like criticism of any kind what's your male take on that she can she give him tips or is he gonna take that bad I mean guys have big egos so it might not I think it's probably what's best for him but they probably won't take it the best I guess what about I guess the delivery of the style in which somebody well of course yeah you guys deliver it with kindness and try to no Cosmo always is like oh I love it when you do this even if he's

not doing it like that. I think that's legit. That's good. Yeah. Wait, say that again. Cosmo will suggest that you're like, oh,

I love it when you do this. It's like, you know, like. Yeah, you try to point them to the right direction instead of telling them

what's wrong. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. All right. Well, ladies, this has been, this has been so much fun. I want to be on your podcast.

Well, we want you to come on a podcast. Okay, I will. And we also want to know what people want us to talk about and what they think. And so we're sort of developing

this and evolving this for everyone because it's such a personal conversation so yeah it is we want to know yeah good or bad give it to us sounds good maybe I'll just like drop in in the studio sometime on your recordings and they come out Mondays that's right every Monday new episode

and some knowledge thanks for having us thank you so much thank you thank you thank you my boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious oh wait a minute Sam maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit well Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon.

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For the past 30 years, Lisa Simpson is as old as me. Well, actually, I'm a year older than her, but still. Yardley is an actress, a producer, a writer. You have been everywhere, TV, Broadway. You've been as good as it gets, Darma and Greg, the Tracy Ellman Show. And now you have a podcast called Small Town Big Dix, Big Crime, Big Time Crime, happening in Small Town, USA. How do we go from all that comedy to a true crime podcast?

Actually, it's just Small Town Dix. Dix. Small town Dix. I don't know where the tagline, we made a tagline for you if you wanted. Thanks. Thanks for that. Dick's being the noir slang for detective. You know, I... Oh, is that why, like, they called him Dick Tracy?

Yes. No way. Yes. Learning things all the time on the Almost Famous podcast. I have always been fascinated by people who aren't interested in following the rules that the rest of us follow in order for society to function well. And then since there are those people in the world, I also want to know that there is another group of people that are willing to put the train back on the tracks in order for society to continue to function well. So that means that I want to know that there is law enforcement who take their job really seriously, who feel that it is a calling and not just a job, who are willing to line up all the dominoes exactly right. And what I've learned on our podcast is that in order for an investigation,

to result in justice, you have no idea how much granular detail needs to be put in place in order for all of these things to line up precisely in order for a DA to file in order for justice to be served so that this perpetrator, this criminal who has been, who has committed a crime against a person, against a home, against, you know, society can be put in jail. And we all feel a little bit safer. Have you watched Don't F*** with Cats on Netflix? Oh, you know, I've actually, it's so funny you say that because about seven people have said,

Yardley, because I love cats. I have two cats. You've got to watch Don't F*** with Cats. And then I'm like, okay, I will. And they're like, okay, but there's just, you know, they don't show you what happens to the cats, but you know it's kind of, I'm like, okay, I'm not sure I got to get, I think you should watch it

because especially if you're so interested on the side of the people trying to do good and get these people in jail that you'll see like this huge Facebook community. I know what happens. Yeah, like it's a community of like regular non-criminal experts. Right. And who say, dude, law enforcement,

listen to me, there is a dude who's killing kittens and he's going to escalate and he's going to fucking start killing people and guess what? Oh, he did. It was fascinating to see like how behind the times the real professionals were there. It is, you know, it's really, those stories are so interesting because when you think about what we have learned from our detectives, because all of the cases on our podcast are told by the detectives who investigated the case, which is really quite unusual in the podcast space. You see it much more on television.

So what we've learned is that the case load never gets less, right? Their to-do list never gets smaller. and they, as I said, they really consider their job a calling, not just a job, and these cases really stick with them. So what I do on my side of the table as the layperson is, I want to know not just what it took to take this investigation from soup to nuts, but I want to know as a human being, when you are the person who pursues humanity, who sees the worst of humanity every single day, where does that live in you? When you have a family, if you have a wife or a husband and children, where does that go in you at the end of a day? A lot of those guys struggle. A lot of them have PTSD.

It's really, really hard and they all say, well, you know, we just put it in a box. But what's also true is the lock on that box isn't that good. Yeah, it's they have a lot inside them. And I think a lot of them, you struggle, they keep the struggle to keep it in. it's and you ultimately you can't really keep it in and so they it's unhealthy they process it with each other because they also feel like no matter how close i am to you the layperson right my partner my um mother my sister my whatever you have no idea what i've actually seen you have no idea what it was like to try to do CPR on that baby and it didn't work yeah you have no idea what it was like to explain

to those three children that their dad just killed their mom And so those things, so they process those experiences with their fellow law enforcement personnel. And then at the end of the day, as you say, I mean, there's a lot of sort of emotional stress that goes along with that. And so they're just, I always feel like everybody has a story, no matter what the story is, everybody feels like their story isn't that interesting and everybody is wrong. It's so true. Everybody's like, oh, it's boring. but, like, I'm compelled by so many of the people's supposed boring stories. They're so wrong about that.

It's in the details, no matter what the details are. This week, the Aaron Hernandez story came out on it. I watched it. Yes, on Netflix. I finished it last night as well. My husband and I are big Patriots fans, and he came into the bedroom the morning it came out, and he was like, the Aaron Hernandez documentary dropped him. I was like, yay!

We're going to go watch it tonight during one. we eat dinner. It was like very exciting. And then I'm like, this is so crazy. Like, yay, I'm excited to learn about this horrible story of multiple people dying about this absolutely tormented man. Why do you think that we are so obsessed with true crime? Because I think that by and large, we recognize, like I said, that society only functions if we really do all abide by a certain set of rules. If we don't, we have complete and utter chaos. So who are these people who, especially the ones who are really successful and or gifted and or the ones who pull themselves up by their bootstraps like Aaron Hernandez, who had extraordinary talent as an athlete, and he then made that into incredible opportunities. He made it on to the Patriots, right?

He was a fourth round draft pick. Then there was like, what the hell is happening? How come he hasn't been chosen? Oh, my God, oh my God. and then he becomes this huge star and then like, okay, no, wait, what the fuck is happening here? What? And he was this huge star and then everybody had to sort of pull on the reins and go, hang on, this isn't right. And I think there is a kind of, is there anything inside of me that is like that?

And if there isn't anything inside of me that's like that, how did he get like that? Right? And so if you watch that documentary, you'll see there's a theory that he had the brain injury, right? At the very end, CTE. And then there is the, well, he was gay and he couldn't handle that. And then there is though he was abused as a kid. There are so many theories, but at the end of the day, we'll probably really never know. And so I think there's a fascination of what actually made him go over the edge. And then there are people who say, well, I don't. think it was him. I don't think he actually pulled the trigger. But for, I got to tell you, so I watched that documentary with Detective Dan, right? So I co-host my podcast with Detective Dan and Detective Day for identical twins. And so I watched that documentary with Detective Dan. And he says, listen to me, as a detective, a guy who gets in a car with four people, one of them ends up dead, half a mile from the house of Aaron Hernandez, who then goes into his house, goes into his basement, and comes out with a Glock that the dude was, that Odin was killed with,

half an hour later. And his lawyer is going, it could have been an iPad or a cell phone. Dan is like, fuck you, that's not true. That's a glock. Oh, yeah. When it's like a little blurry and they're like, oh, it could, yeah, we don't really know. It's that, you know, that evidence we can't really use. It has a very specific shape to it, that gun.

And so, you know, it's really fascinating to watch. I only, so it's ruined, doing the true crime podcast is actually ruined scripted true crime, scripted crime shows for me. Because now I'm like, ah, that's crime light. I can't watch that. Now I only want to watch oxygen and ID discovery and stuff and stuff like that. And it's really fascinating to watch it from a real detective's point of view because, of course, he'll always tell you in the first two minutes, like, ah, I'll tell you who down. I'm like, it's like, my dad's a doctor, and you can't watch Grey's Anatomy with him because he's like, this is bullshit, like, all the entire episode. BS, BS, BS, same with, same with Dan.

He's like, ah, the badge is in the wrong place. That's not how you hold the God. You never do that. You never enter a room that way. I'm like, could you just, I'm just, it's just. television yeah it's television yes enjoy it right yes my last question for you is of all the podcast you've done thus far what's a story that sticks out to you the most that'll really sell our audience to listen to your podcast oh gosh um really there are we've done over 70 episodes now

we just closed our fifth season although we're only about two and a half years old there are two I'll give you two because it's trying to pick your favorite child but we don't want you to make Sophie's story thank you thank you um we have one four part series in season one called The Sociopath and the Whistleblower which is about one of our

detectives investigating a bad cop on his own police force which is fascinating and heartbreaking and it ruined the whole small town and then we have another one that aired at the end of this past season five which just

about a man who executed a guy when he was 14 years old and was put away for 17 years and got out on a thing called a second look. We actually on our podcast, we don't give any of the names or places where the crimes took place. But in the second case... Is that because you don't want to give fame to the criminals? We actually, it's out of respect for the victims. Okay, I was going to say that's on the other side.

Yes. On the other hand. Yes. And also because many of our detectives are still working. And so we don't want any of them ever to be on the stand and have a prosecutor going. So you're part of that fucking podcast called Smalltown Dix. Yeah. Right.

So, but this guy, his name is Trevor Walraven because his case is quite famous. He executed a man when he was 14 years old. And then he got caught a week later. No. Yeah. Doing what? after you got a week after he got out of jail he got caught doing no no he got caught for having murdered this man a week later okay so and then he got put in prison for 17 years and now he's out and now

he's an advocate for youth offenders and it's a fascinating two-part interview okay yeah and you can get our podcast everywhere you like to listen so apple podcast it's your google play um you name it we're there great thank you so much yard lou this has been so Oh, cool. You're cool. Thank you. All right. Next up, we have Nick Viall.

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Before we started this podcast, Easton asked me, he's like, is it harder to come up with questions for your actual close friends than it is these strangers? And the answer is absolutely. I am joined by one of my good friends, Nick Viol, of the... Viall Files, which he's here at the IHeart Podcast 2020 Awards celebrating. He needs no introduction, especially with our audience.

Bet, I was going to call you Ben. And also, I feel like good friend is a little kind of underselling our relationship if I'm speaking freely. Should I say best friend? I mean, dear, one of my best friends. Dear. One of my best friends. Closest, uh, you know, groomsman, bridal party here, bridal party friend.

Performer at your wedding. performer he sure did perform he recited a did you you you did sorry met sally right did yeah so he did a monologue at the ceremony of the harry med sally scene before the clock strikes midnight he did an outstanding performance and he filled in last minute from somebody who had stage fright but you know you were definitely the best decision acting classes are finally paying off sure are so i called you been the beginning because my first question is do you think that you or ben looks more like Peter Pete pilot Pete I don't I don't looks wise yes you even put a picture you you took a picture of the two of you next to each other and you're like doppel danger or something yeah I mean

that I've seen some pictures where there are there will be times where I'll see a picture of Pete and at first glance I'm like that was that in like an old photo of me or something I don't think he really looks like Ben. Okay, I think he, I thought he looked so much like Ben. Ben has a boyish look and so does Peter, yes. Their eyes, the dimensions of their face, like their face shape. I thought there was so much Ben in him. And then.

It's the boyish look. I think that's, I think it's the boyish look they both have. I think there's something doughy in their eyes, like doy in like a nice, like, doll way. I think it's that boyish charm that they both have. Okay. So anyway, so Peter was sitting next to me and I was like, oh my god you are the actual child of nick and ben and then you also became the bachelor it was weird i think he's very attractive yes he's very attractive he has your coloring and he has

been structure is is wild to see why do you nick feel like when a person becomes the bachelor they go to ben for advice and not you is that true i think I think so, yes. I don't know. I mean, I've talked to Peter. Okay. But I feel like Ben is like the father. Why do you think that Ben is the godfather of the franchise?

You're dropping these truths on me. I didn't know. You don't think that like Ben is looked at as the like the president of the bachelor? I guess, no? No. I feel like yes. Okay. But you apparently don't.

I think Ben's great. I mean, sure, I'd go to him for advice. I didn't know that... Did you go to him for advice when you became a bachelor? He gave me advice, and we had dinner before I went. Okay. So I got, yeah, him and Lauren. Who else did you get advice?

But Lauren actually gave me better advice than that. What'd she say? She, you know, she just told me to focus and, I don't know, she just told me to protect the relationship if I thought I was going to pick someone. Okay, that's good. That was good advice. Did you talk to any other bachelor's beforehand?

Beforehand? Yeah. When I was going to be the bachelor. No. No, I didn't. That was, you know, that was all I needed, I guess. Okay. Yeah.

Relevancy. Maybe Chris a little bit. Yeah. Maybe Chris Souls. Yeah. Okay. So in addition to the Vial files, which you talk about a number of things, it's not just bachelor-oriented. You do interviews with relationship experts, A-less celebrities.

and you also do questions with Nick every Sunday on Instagram. I do. Questions with Nick is when people send in all these questions when you know you set up the Q&A thing. What is the number one? Like what is the question that you get every single week

and you're like, are you kidding me? I'm getting this question again? They're generally different variations of... Is he into me? Like, why hasn't he called? Right? Yeah. It's either...

it's it's like why hasn't he called or what does he mean by this it's more it's a lot of more like what does he mean your your answers are almost always he's not dying to you right well there's a lot of those themes i try to be more specific it's uh it's more less about he's in less about he's not that into you and more about uh trying to encourage and it seems to be more women asking questions, but trying to encourage them to maybe have greater expectations of their own requirements in dating. Greater expectations for their own requirements. Like, you think that girls should be shooting higher and they're like kind of settling for

less? I think a lot, well, for what I've noticed with questions, I think a lot of young women tend to be more worried about whether he likes her. and that seems to be their biggest concern. Instead of like, do you really like him? You know, what do I like about him? Do I like that he does this? Do I not like that he does that?

They seem to kind of dismiss all this things all around. Does he like me? So I try to, you know, in different ways, you know, point that out. Okay, so you obviously, like we haven't seen you in a relationship that lasted a long, long time. Why do you think that you can teach, like those who can't teach? I don't even suggest that I can teach. I just, you know, people ask me a question. I give an answer.

I don't know if they like it. I don't even know. I'm not even suggesting it's the right advice. It's just the advice. It's not even advice. It's more. Just like your feedback. Yeah, it's just my feedback.

Also, you know, coaches don't play, you know, kind of thing. But in all seriousness, I mean, I think, you know, trial. Like, you learn, you learn more from failure and you learn from, from disappointment. And I will say a lot of sometimes the advice I give is, is based off of things I've learned in the past and points of view that I used to have when I was younger and things that, you know, I learned to, you know, have learned to view the world differently and learn how to be a little bit more honest with myself. And so those are kind of things I try to, to, to suggest. But again, I don't know if I'm right. Sometimes I want to, like, I read through your questions, and I think I'm going to screenshot his, his answer, the question, his answer, and then give my own answer and, like, just see the parallels. Should I do that one time?

Sure. Do you think, you wouldn't be annoyed? You know I'm going to, like, approach everything with a little bit more rainbows and butterflies than you are. I feel like you'd always constantly just post a photo of you and Jared and be like it happens here but I'm the exception to the rule I am the exception to the rule

I really try to tell people this more often It's quite honestly Well it's a great story It's a very dangerous story to tell It is My last question for you Because we have to get going to the award soon Obviously there's a little friction

between the Vial Files and the Almost Nass podcast. No, there's not. I love Jared and Dean. I'm talking about my podcast. I just said the almost famous podcast. I thought you said, I hope I suck a day. There's friction?

Oh, I know there's friction between the almost second dating. I love to tease you guys. Yeah, I know. There's enough of love to go around. I meant teasing friction, of course. Tell our audience, if they don't listen to the Vial Files, what they're going to get there.

What was your favorite episode, your best interview for them to go listen to? to get them hooked to on my podcast well i mean if you uh like for one we do well now we're doing three episodes a week during while bachelors on so if you if you like listening to people's dating stories uh all across the spectrum uh it's very interesting and relatable and we uh try to give our opinions uh of what people should or shouldn't do in their integrating situations and sometimes sometimes we have guests to help me out uh and then we do like some very interesting interviews some with bachelor people or other dating experts or just other celebrities and just

try to have interesting conversations and then when the bachelor's on we'll we recap the bachelor every Tuesday i'm going to give you a really big compliment here thanks actually no one recaps with so many thoughts as nick does nick analyzes the episode so in detail like he'll give you all the perspectives thank well i mean i've i lived it all i yeah I've been on all the sides. You've lived. Lives it all, Mr. Vial. I like to break it down.

But, you know, you guys are the, you guys are the OG bachelor recout. Thanks. Oh, look at us giving compliments. Yeah, there's enough love to go around. So much love. All right. Love you, Nick. Bye.

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on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. All right. I have my husband joining me again because we have a couple that is doing their own IHAR podcast called He said, oh man. Go for it. You got this. A. Adio? Great. All right. It's Rosalind Chances and Eric Winter and Rosalind. I just like, I watch Divis Spades and I watch Grand Hotel. I'm a big fan of yours It's really, really cool To have you on the podcast

And then Eric is currently on ABC's The Rookie And here you guys have a podcast About marriage And how you guys both came from Two very different cultural backgrounds And how that works out in marriage Yes Yeah, we're pretty much just

Even outside of marriage We're just the epitome of opposites I guess attract in a way I mean I think we're still attracted to each other Are you? You guys are both very attractive people I don't think you lost that More sex.

Clearly we're attracted. I don't find you as cute anymore. Wow. Really? You're gorgeous. So yeah, it's really a podcast about coming at everything from our complete opposite perspectives on life,

marriage, kids, pop culture, and just diving and having fun with it. What do you guys feel like is the part of your relationship where you're the most different? Oh, there's so many things. I know. Just listen to a couple.

I thought you were the most same. I was like, oh, that's the next question. I'll at least give you a few. Where were the most different? I think the differences came hardcore after we had kids. Although we parent really well. But we have differences for sure.

As you start to raise little people, you start to realize how, I mean, some people do everything exactly the same, but we, for whatever reason, a lot of our differences in raising kids came front and center. And that was more about how we were in life, too, with schedules and timing. and, you know, I'm very much by the book and straightforward with everything and I like to have everything under control and she lives in Rosalindland.

Oh, my God. That's pretty much what happens. I live in Ashley Land. My dad calls it Ashley Land. There you go. I feel like you guys are actually probably extremely similar to Jared and I. She live in Ashley Land?

There's always Ashley Land. I'm learning to just become a part of Ashley Land. It's the easiest way of being. If I want to have a happy life, I need to have a happy wife, which means buying real estate in Ashleyland. Did you hear that, Eric? I've bought plenty of real estate.

I know you have, you have. I just try and sell it at times and buy something else. Oh, wow. In still in Rosasland, just new locations. It's interesting that you guys talk about how when you guys started having kids, more of your disagreements or differences came to the forefront. Because Ashley and I, even the little things like interior decorating or like, you know, scheduling things like that, I think a lot of it is just kind of pushed to the side

because it's just the two of us, but I'm curious when, you know, knock on wood as long as everything's healthy. We have kids. If, like, those differences will start, like you guys said, maybe becoming more of a priority because it's how we raise our kids. Well, one thing even you just said,

which is very different for us, and maybe it's good for you guys. Are you guys both the same? Like, when you're talking about interior decorated, are you guys both good at keeping on a budget? Are you both good at that? Oh, we're both really on the same page of money. See?

So that's great. I'm frugal. We're, like, comfortably frugal. like we like live a good life but we just don't overspend so you that's how I am yeah I'm comfortably frugal she likes to call it cheap you're frugal she's completely opposite you're like cheap so she sets up we did we just renovated our house and it was like she set a budget and we went over every step of the way because she says I want it for this price but I want that and it just you can't make that happen for that price and the house is beautiful so it became that the entire time

I I'm with rosselin here because um when we like talk about buying a house one day I'm always like oh it's gonna be this it's gonna be this and then he's like well we don't need that I'm like why would we not get what we want exactly but I'm like you we don't need that we just yeah we don't need we went to an event um couple of months ago and he was at this massive house like outrageous like a hotel like I was joking when I said you know what this is living and he's like would you live like in the house like this and I went absolutely yeah and he was like you're ridiculous this place is too big and it was absurd it's like like a resort but it was amazing. I'm going,

what do you mean? You would have lived in a place like this. This is incredible. Like, dream. Cut it in thirds and by three of them in different locations. And he's like, you need a walkie to talk. I'm going, yeah, dude, I'll call you with a walkie talking. I love this. The East Isle, whatever. No, but it was ridiculous, but yeah, we, yeah, I just tend

to like. At least you said you were ridiculous. That's the important part. You admitted to it. I love how honest you guys are with each other. people always say for newlyweds you know it was like oh the first year is the hardest but I feel like the first year is definitely

going to be one probably the easiest but it's also the first year with kids is probably the hardest right it's tough I mean everything changes everything changes and also as you're going through it you also see who handles for example

it's much different with the second kid but with the first kid I would have meltdowns whenever she would get sick. Like meltdown. The kid? Yeah, I would freak out. I wouldn't know how to handle it. She'd be more calm.

But she'd freak out if the kid scraped her knee. And I'm like, it's fine. Let them fall. Bumps and bruises. No big deal. Run into the cabinet. It's fine. You need to do these things.

So we were, again, opposite. Even on that, well, you don't know how you're going to handle those things when you're in these situations. And it creates an anxiety and a stress that's built up when you're trying to raise these two kids. The kid gets sick. You've got to be there for each other because the kid's miserable.

And you feel like every second it's, It's grave danger, you know, and you realize, no, we all went through all this and we all are going to be okay. But it's good to have those things incommonately. It helps reduce some of the stress. Yeah. Yeah. But you just got married.

You don't have kids. Well, I mean, like, it's more of a biological clock thing. How old are you know? I'm 31. I'll be 32 in March. You got some time. We have time. You have time.

Before 35. Enjoy. Yeah, but then you want two before 35. Enjoy marriage, though, a little bit. Right. Yeah, that's what we want. That's how long have you guys been together at a total? Two years

We've been together two years But we've been together for four years Four and a half years We were best friends for a few years before that And it was Very much a relationship without touching Very much So enjoy the touching a little longer

Before you have kids Because then you'll be back in a relationship Without touching You guys said everything I feel like I hear that all the time Where everything changes when you have kids What changes You're the priorities in life

Just become all about these kids As they should traveling like we love traveling and we used to go on travel all the time now the moment trips yeah let's just go somewhere now when you have kids it's not as easy you know because you have a little human being next to you and they start preschool and school and you can pull them out of school and they have their activities you know it's not as granted you can do it with a baby she was just saying on the way here she's like oh our friends taking her baby all over the world all the time and I'm like I get it's one kid yeah and you're going to travel with at least one or two nannies in that situation this particular

person I'm not saying everybody does this right I would do it in my problem. I will grab my dogs and my kids and I will travel the world no problem. And you would bring like four people to help. For sure. That's the difference. I go on vacation and I want to go just with a family.

The point is I'll do it. He's so concerned about everything that just the fact that there's a time difference and if the Dylan naps at one, what are we going to do is five o'clock over there? When is it going to nap? No, I thought that's a view.

I don't like to throw them off on a time change for a quick trip. These are the kinds of things you will jump into You guys might be on the same page It'll be super easy I love this I doubt it You know what I mean

You never know Because I feel like we need to have dinner With you guys Because I am her And Tiffany is you Even when you said When you were talking about dreams Rosalind

God you sound exactly like Ashley She's like if your dreams Oh yeah She's like if your dreams are realistic They're not big enough Yeah And it's like I get that It's just not

That's not who I am in my core That's like a big fight of ours That's one of our big things too I call him dream popper Yeah that was like our first podcast and everybody called me Dream Popper at that point. She's... You need that, though.

For 13 years, she's called me a dream pop. You need the pop a little bit. He's like, no, he's like, sure, that would be nice. That would be nice. I'm like, sure, that would be nice because it will happen. And he, like, will, he'll be like,

no, I mean, like, the odds of it happening are very low. Let's be realistic. And it doesn't mean I'm not going to go... Realism gets you nowhere. Yeah, but here's the thing. It doesn't mean I'm not going to go after my dreams, but I'm also going to have a level head about it going after it.

But then she's like, if you have that attitude, it's not going to happen. I'm like, I disagree. That doesn't mean I'm still not working towards it. No, it's too passive. No, because then what happens is, I don't know about you, but I speak on her behalf, is then something doesn't go right in that dream process. Oh, everybody, this, and this person did that, and it's just bullshit.

I don't know why this doesn't work out for me. I'm like, because your dream is too big and you never know what the hell is going to happen. You know what happens? If you have a level of reality. Whatever, reality. When you dream big, maybe the dream doesn't happen, but the steps that you take towards the dream and the plan, something leads you to the right direction. Here's the thing I'd say, in the world of entertainment, and I don't know if your guys'

dreams include if that's what it is, right? If you have a dream of becoming a doctor, it's a very realistic dream. If you stick to your plan, you go to school, you pass your test, you'll be a doctor. It's not that hard. Like, if you do everything right, you'll be a doctor. It is an easy path. It's a path that if you do everything right and you score, you'll get it. But it's not easy. I don't want to say easy. You have a path. You have a very difficult path to fulfill and live up to and score right on all your tests. But there's a path. But there's a path that if you do it all, you will get it.

So there's a dream you can accomplish with hard work. In entertainment, you can set all the dreams you want in the world. And most everything happening is in somebody else's hands. No, it sucks. So being a dreamer can get you in a lot of trouble in entertainment. I think it also I don't know. No, not for me.

See, I also, see, I agree with you though because I think being in this industry, it it breathed so much stress and anxiety because I completely agree with you. where a lot of the decisions like like you said uh you know at jobs that i've had before where i'm working 50 hours a week it was like you have a path and this is how you work up and make more money and this is where you're going in the entertainment industry it's literally just like throwing stuff against the wall and being like i hope i hope that i'm working hard enough

and people are seeing it enough where they'll do something about it but even if you go to the extreme and this is something again not an easy path but even professional sports not easy to be a pro-athlete, but if you have the physical gift and you work hard every single day, you're going to get a result that people will quantify and say, okay, that result will get you a scholarship, will get you a contract. You could be the best actor, host, whatever it is in the world, and no one would ever give you a shot. Because it's one person's opinion that has to say yes. You can't control it. So I feel like are we maybe similar because everything that I've pretty much dreamed, I've pretty much accomplished. Me too. Yeah. So that there, it works for

me. It works for you. And then I think of him does, but I have to hear this. So therefore I conclude it works. It works. Yeah. God, the amount of times of I I dream, but I get it done. It works. Everything I've dreamed has come true. That's exactly what.

My family members tell him, too. They're like, anything Ashley wants, Ashley gets. And he's like, I hear this. It's the only way to be. Otherwise, especially in the entertainment world, is the only way, Eric. Otherwise, you don't accomplish anything. You have to visualize and you have to be so certain that it's possible and it's doable.

I'm in the same world. Otherwise, go home. I've dreamed things to happen and they've happened, but there are plenty of things that I've dream to happen and have not happened. It's a very tough business. Yeah, but we're talking about dreams that are attainable, and dreams that are, when you're really good at something. Not like, I dream to. Yeah.

Okay. Okay. Next question. Final question. I, on my other podcast, I don't get a podcast this week, I was talking about big personalities, females with big personalities and guys being drawn to them. I am determined, passionate, emotional, expressive. I feel like you're the same way. You're 100%. You're beautiful.

You have the profession, the personality, the big personality. Was that something that was intimidating to you at first, Eric? No. I actually wasn't. Were you into girls like that? Oh, you're into girls? I was like that. Were you into girls like that?

Because I just noticed from personal experience and watching The Bachelor, it seems like the soft-spoken demure take a back seat type girl always gets ahead on the show really yeah but in life I don't know but we had Heather McDonald on and we're and she obviously has that huge personality and

she was like I do think it's harder for girls with that type of personality to get guys but with a strong personality yeah no I remember when we first met there was a whole she was shocked first of all that I was a white guy and I went up to her because that was blew her mind right away she's like

who's this guy Why are you talking to me? More white guys don't, you, I'm talking about you. I know, but I was like, when he came always saying, I just want to introduce myself, my name is Eric. I looked back going, there's no way this white kid is talking. She realized, like, I dated Latinas my whole life. My whole life.

In the city I grew up in, it was all Mexican predominantly La Puente, but I grew up with a lot of Latinos, so I was always, you know, Latina. So she was shocked about that. But my point is, I never, when I got to dating her, I realized right away she was a strong personality. Just the first time I met her. And we were friends like you guys for almost a year

before we ever started dating. And I realized it's a very strong lady. But I'm a very type A personality as well. So once we started dating, I remember having an early conversation being like, look, I get it, you're strong, I'm strong. One of us has to give. Somebody's going to have to take a back seat

at different points in time or this is never going to work. And that was an early, she doesn't remember much in our relationship. Because she's been in the front seat the entire time. She's curious. What was my answer? And here we are talking about resolution.

and compromise is still at the forefront of what your new resolution needs to be. Yeah. So even then it was like somebody has to be, she hates the word submissive, somebody has to submit

at any point in time in a relationship. You have to or you won't, if two people are constantly the dominant, where do you go? Use compromise. Don't use submission. I agree with that. Take a seat.

Take a step back. Somebody has to take a step back in a position or a decision. so our two strong personalities kind of came to a head early in dating and it was like all right this way it has to be if we're going to be together and we've been able to make that work amazing okay after this how are you guys not going to go listen to he said hey adie ho he said it perfectly i know and i'm just like i'm going to go listen to this podcast immediately oh yeah awesome oh i love i love couples couples conversations it's real it's raw and you guys are very real and it's It's refreshing. Good. It's so refreshing. Yeah, because obviously, as you guys know, you see a lot of people who are not themselves.

Yeah. And you guys are very much yourself. Maybe that's why we've been together for almost 15 years. I know, the first episode we did, because we got into this, like, not knowing what we were doing, right? So we did the first episode of Hiserda, he said, and we left and we were shaking because we felt like we said so much. Yeah, we do that too. Really? I was freaking out.

I was like, oh, my God, Eric. What did we do? What did we do? Is that we're exposing everything. so many topics and so many topics and we had a blast but we I got home and I was sick to my stomach going was that okay you know because it's really it's liberating it's like therapy but it's like therapy I've said many times like it's actually a bit therapeutic when we've been talking about yourself a lot and we laugh the whole way through and we're laughing that's a good thing so comedy's

been great with it like for us but it is it's very therapeutic oh yeah you sin was saying that it's one of the podcasts that he loves sitting in the most oh thank you we have some good Because Issa and I are on the same page after the time row. Oh, what happened? What are you talking about? All right, thank you guys so much. This has been a blast. Thanks for having us.

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probably pass by one every day. And you may not even know it yet, but it's going to become your regular stomping ground. I am now lastly joined by I Heart Radio podcast the scrubbing in, wow, what the

it's my last interview, you guys. It's been a long podcast. It's been a long podcast. just don't read anything you got this this funny i was just reading i was reading you guys i'm joined by becca and tanya of the scrubbing of scrubbing in on iHeart radio you guys you started the podcast of you know about tv predominantly about gray's anatomy so i have to ask what the f is up with the departure of alex carev aka alice alice Alex Chambers. Is it on him or is this a Shonda Rhymes move?

I think his name's Justin. What did I say? Alex Chambers. You guys, what is, see, I just did, I think I've done two straight hours of interviews. I think I've gone through nine, nine, two hours. So, like, I'm also letting loose with you guys because it's you. So I don't have to be on my best interview. Literally, turn, I want you to turn your card over.

Like, don't even, who cares? There we go. It's just Tanya and Becca here. I know. That's, it's really funny. Yeah. I just, like, really, I just, uh, I just really glad to have friends here that I'm talking to right now. We're here.

So what the hell? I mean, you, what, like, you did the whole benching of grace and like, I stopped season 15. I just couldn't do it anymore. It just wasn't good anymore. You know what? I'm getting to that point. Yeah. Okay.

No. We have to watch. I know. I know. I know. I get it through. There's no storyline that we're attached to anymore. Now, now they've, like, taken away everything with Justin Chambers leaving.

I know. I mean, he was my favorite. He was all that we have. He's all we have. He's probably my favorite characters about the entire series. Oh, interesting. I mean, I definitely, I loved him. Yeah. I love him.

I don't. You know what I'm mostly upset about? Like, I would have been upset no matter what. But the fact that we've already seen his last episode, but we didn't get to prepare for that being his last episode. That's so messed up. It's unfair. It's so weird.

And do we think that's on him, though? Like, he got, there was some internal drama where he probably, he probably, thought like this script is freaking horrible this show has become trash no i'm done i don't think it's that because i feel like he would have done that like a season ago to be honest or maybe it was after that season that he was like you know i just don't feel like i'm growing in my character this to me feels like a shonda like no it doesn't it feels like something happened to him personally and he needs to like step back for a minute maybe like a family thing yeah or just like i don't know i really don't know but it feels it feels too quick and sudden to be a shonda thing or a he just wasn't into the

script thing there's no way they would not do like a goodbye episode if it wasn't something sudden and abrupt yeah because why all of a sudden is it just like you've already seen his episode he's gone because he was like I can't anymore and threw his papers in the air no I don't think so I really don't I don't know I'm just like 16 like I mean 15 and a half seasons and then nothing And he just disappears, like, with no warning. No goodbye. And then, like, what are they going to do with Joe and his storyline? Her story.

Oh, you mean they're, like, couple story lines? Yeah, they're couple story. I don't know. I don't know if they, like, if they tell us that he passed away or if they're like, he's gone to find Izzy. He's not going to be passed away, right? Didn't he, like, I didn't watch. I read a fan theory that, like, they could kill him off.

I thought it already aired, guys. It did. They're going to pretend, like, while he was away, he died. Remember how, like, Christina Yang would, like, call Mary And if she left, like, they could still fake calls from him and then, like, who knows? Sure. I guess they'll probably do that. I hope so.

They can't kill him off. Yeah, but he's not going to, Joe, he, Joe's going to move on with someone else. Yeah. Move on with someone else. Yeah, maybe link. Oh, yeah. They're married. That's what I'm saying.

Maybe he gets killed. What happens if you're married and then one of you dies? You're a widow. Oh. Or widower. Yeah, you're right. I was like, there was a term for that. Okay.

Oh, my God. Gosh, wait, do I have any more grace questions? Guess who I met last weekend. Oh, yeah, that was my next greatest question. You met Patrick Dempsey. How would that go? Like, the best moment of my life. I wish I had, like, I wish I had a GoPro on my head for moments like that.

Same. Because I, like, blacked out, so I can't really remember everything. But it was really just, like, magical. You're with Chris Harrison, and he was, like, guiding you through this whole thing. He guided you through a journey. It just wasn't the Bachelor journey. It was your Gray's journey. It was my Gray's journey.

And he, like, ali-hooked me so legit to where he was like, she's a part of an award-winning podcast called Scrubing in. That's all about grades anatomy. I was like, the fact that he threw the award-winning in there was, I mean. Do you wish he would have ended it after award-winning podcast and not thrown in the all-a-grays? Yeah. Because then it would have made you sound really cool and smart and not a groupie.

Yeah, because I went for sure. I went groupie, full-groupy. I was like, well, as a married woman now, like, I go full-groupy now because I'm not like I don't need to like woo my celebrity crush I just like want to show appreciation for their work. I think he's married. He's married with like yeah I wasn't trying to woo him. I was just trying to like get him on the podcast maybe but that was yeah you know big stretch did you attempt no are you kidding I could barely get words out and then I was like are you gonna like throw the ball around wait actually yeah there's talks of tanya going on the bachelor there is there are talks there's talks so she could we all know that she could just be thrown in at any time she wants I mean it's

already done filming, so we'd have to start filming her. No, the new season. Yeah, so in September. What do you think about this? Of course. I mean, I feel like, how has it not happened yet? She's the unhonorable member of Bachelor Nation. How do you think she'd handle the production, the whole, the part of dating other a man that is dating other women? I can't do that in my real life.

Okay, well, there's a lot of things here. One, it would be cool to see you as not just an honorary member, but like as an official member of Bachelor Nation. But the thing is, I think you'd have such a target on your back because you're basically a celebrity. I mean, yeah, you were playing in a celebrity softball game with Patrick Dempsey and Chris Harrison. So it's like, you have a leg up.

I target on your back. That's so funny. You're friends with Chris Harrison. Susie was saying she was like, they're going to hate you. I was like, I don't care. I'm going to love them. I think you'd win them over, but initially. That's not the point.

The point for me is like, I can't date someone and even think he's dating other people. I think if I, like, honestly, I'm putting myself in the situation. I think if I saw it off. happening and like saw him kissing other girls like I would literally be crying every day like yeah that's what the bachelor is but hold on you have time to like prepare mentally knowing that you're going to go on and that's what he's going to be doing like mentally get me there I'm like I do

I believe in this happening and I think it's like Rebecca is the calmest chillest person and get the advice around if only she can give you a little bit of herself I've been asking for this for years I'm like if I could just be a little bit as chill as she is my day life, I feel like I probably would be married by now. So I was just talking to Rosalind Sanchez about like girls with big personalities and how guys take to them and how I feel like a big passionate personality is always so much less likely to be approached by a guy, which I think is super sad, but I think it's true, don't you? Yes.

Yeah, but why is that? But like to stick around? Stick around for sure. Okay. because I think like I just also I'm in a place where like I know what I want Yeah

Very much so I'm not shy about voicing that Yeah but like expressive like more outspoken For sure Girls that like speak with confidence I feel like on The Bachelor And I'm saying the exact same thing I said in the previous interview But on The Bachelor it feels like the girls who just are like A little bit like they bat their eyes

And they speak so sweet and soft They're the ones that like are always like the front run I think there's an element of mystery that draws me to a woman just a little shy. There's like that like stereotype of because like there's a stereotype of a man being like the hunter or whatever. Yeah. So like for someone who's mysterious and yelled back, he's like, I got to pursue that because I got to pursue that to get to know her. Otherwise I'm not going to like if you put it all out there, that's a specific man who's like I want a confident girl who's going to go into a room and like. shine you know if he's like wait I get this now you just got yeah I think you figured it out

they just like the mystery and girls like me and Tanya and Becca you're just like all around I don't know you just got it no what you feel no but she like appeals to everyone everyone yeah there's like she's like very real she's outspoken yet does it in a gentle way I don't know I could do it like I could pretend like you know to be like this cool calm and like mystery girl but that's not me so it's like the guy's gonna know within a month like that's not me, you know what I can't sustain that. Yeah. So it's like I just, I can't, I can't fake it. Yeah. No, and I'm telling you. Like, just like, I always say Tanya's got to find her

Jared. Yeah. Because like Jared like celebrates that part about you. You know, like he loves it and Tanya's guy's going to celebrate that about her. He wasn't sure. Like at first though, that's what held him back because he was like, oh my God, I never imagined a girl like this. True. That's what took him so much longer to come around. That's what I'm saying. You never know. oh we're not banking on that time yeah we're not we're not maybe you should just yeah yeah yeah maybe yeah maybe you should um woo them with friendship first because i do feel like with girls like us perhaps friendship first would be great because then they're like oh wait busy girls really awesome like i know that's the thing i'm bad at like i can't i just i have too many friends and i don't want a guy

friend you know like if i if my tongue's been in your mouth like no yeah you can't backtrack yeah we talk a lot about tony's tongue being in someone's mouth and my tongue has been in around your mouth like you're not only my friend yeah my my friend lizzie always talks about that tongue and tongue in a guy's mouth and i'm like i don't really like tongue that much so that you don't you know i don't really refer to my i really don't um but my friend lizzie is single now so maybe you guys can go out i know yeah i didn't know you know wow words words spreads quick in hollywood well no she was because i like post a lot of quotes and stuff and she was saying how they like help her and i was like oh i didn't know that that that's

so sweet yeah y'all are both you and lizzie are gonna find i forgot that you guys can both like go on the prowl together now there's no problem but i go on only tell you that one she doesn't want to go on a prowl either oh god okay this is definitely an off podcast conversation we're talking about somebody who's not a podcast host not even a public figure all right y'all thank you for sticking with me for all these hours i would like to thank all our guests that stopped by and thank you to fine and funky for dressing our presenters tonight. We love Fine and Funky. Whenever we are in the Reno Tahoe area, I always stop by there to get some really adorable outfits. You can check them out online at shop, fine and funky.com. And speaking of Tahoe, we will be there. Jared, me,

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