The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - I’ll Unfollow You into the Dark

Episode Date: April 1, 2025

Ben and Ashley are breaking down the latest in Bachelor Nation headlines! Grant has cleared the air about his family’s reaction to his fiancée, we have hints on which Golden contestants are hitting the beach in Paradise, and we dissect the Tyler Cameron/Grant Ellis feud!   And things get emotional when we cover Christina Mandrell’s milestone in her sobriety journey.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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For the start of the off season, there's no shows airing right now. We are here to have one of the times that Ashley and I, like love the most. We love breaking down each season. We love talking about if we like the season or not and the relationships and the contestants and the people and all the intricacies that go into this show. But we really love the off season because we get to break down headlines. We get to do some deep dives with some of your favorite past contestants. We get to catch up on each other's lives a lot, which is a lot of fun. And always have, you know, the ability to answer questions that you maybe send in to us. But today is headlines. We got some juicy ones for you.

today. Ashley is here ready and prepared. Goodness gracious. Let's kick it off with this one. Tyler Cameron says Bachelor Grant Ellis. Yes, the Bachelor, currently. No longer a Bachelor, though, in a relationship. Unfollowed him over Latia Gar's support. Tyler Cameron's quote is, come on now. This is covering to Us Weekly. Okay. So I love this because because Tyler just like wasn't afraid to say what he was thinking. And Grant couldn't, he couldn't take it. So after seeing the finale, Grant got, Tyler got on Instagram and he said, Latia, I'm going to apologize because I was unfamiliar with your game because you have a massive real estate, you have massive real estate right here in Grant's head. And this is probably true. And then he said, so he, you know, he kind of

put Grant a little bit on blast as I and lots of other viewers out there did because you know he said too many things too many things do you now watch yourself Ashley what do you mean

some of us make those mistakes in life no no it wasn't just the I love you it wasn't the I love you was you're it it's over yes over and over again stop the show face-time and your mom whatever he said in the fantasy

sweets, which I think is even beyond all this. I can't wait. You know, I'm excited to propose to you tomorrow. Like, what? This is so beyond the I love you. I can respect that you love two people that you even say, I love you to take people. This I can't respect at all. Anyway, so I'm sure that Grant won't be having any double dates with me in Boston either.

My nanny was like, she's like, do you think that like because they're living in Boston that you'll like see them? And I'm like, I don't know that he's going to really want to hang out with me after how critical I was at the finale. Anyway. Okay, so this is what Tyler said. And then he goes, when I was on Nick's podcast, I was like, hey, you're going to be a great bachelor, blah, blah. And then he goes, he slid, Grant slid into Tyler's DM, saying, you're the man, T.C. And then he said, I had this feeling that after I supported Latia on Instagram, that Grant unfollowed me. And then he went to his follower list, and yes, he did.

He unfollowed Tyler after he showed the support to Littia. Now, okay, I don't blame Grant, though. Really? Come on. No, he's sensitive. Now, I'm not saying what Tyler did was wrong either. You signed up for a show, again, to be criticized. Like, it happens to everybody all times.

You go from the highs, the lows, and most seasons, you get spit out with people being happy and people being mad of you. But I don't necessarily mind. Grant unfollowing Tyler because it wasn't serving anything of encouragement to him. And if that's not happening, then I don't blame him for taking a step back. It's not that he should be mad at Tyler. I hope that they see each other. They can laugh about him and be like, dude, you are a jerk to me.

And Tyler can say, yes, I was. And all this, whatever dudes do to figure stuff out. But I don't blame him for the unfollow because Grant is very sensitive, I'm sure, right now. Like, he's hearing every negative comment way louder than. anything positive. I can see your side, but I also feel like you need to learn to take that. That's not even that bad. It wasn't that mean.

Over time, he will be fine. He's just a sensitive boy right now, and that's okay. Ashley, this one kind of rocked me. If I remember right, this is the second time. Yeah. Something like this has happened in their home. It was something I was so worried about with my. beautiful pup whalen i could not be um more at peace with where i'm at so this even headline doesn't

hurt me to read but if you would ask me this three months ago i would have never read it because i would have been so terrified myself uh bachelor star sean low details being attacked twice by his dog in north texas home now actually before we start if i'm crazy we read a headline like a year ago where they had to send one of their dogs to a different home because of it attacking their son, right? Yeah, we didn't have like that attack detailed. I don't even know if we would call an attack. It just seemed to like be aggressive, like show signs of aggressiveness. Yeah.

So they got rid of that dog and then they just had to get rid of another dog after a true attack on Sean. If you want to know the whole story from them, like I, it is, it's a crazy story. There's a seven-minute Instagram reel that they put up on it explaining how, you know, of course, they had to get rid of the dog after this. And they didn't want people to be like, so what happened to the dog or see the marks on Sean's arms and wonder what happened there without explanation? So they did seven-minute video on it. It was quite petrifying. He got attacked by the dog and sent to the emergency room twice in the same 24-hour span. Yeah.

so first he's grilling out with the guys and he um so the kids aren't home and the smoke detector goes off in the house and i guess the smoke detector had never gone off before but this sound drove the dog to run up to Sean and just tear like really just like dig into his arms to the point where he said it like it almost looked like a murder scene out on the patio his he was very thankful that he had friends there because they got him to the emergency room and And they got stitched up. And, of course, like, that, they were already thinking, like, oh, we got to figure out what to do this dog. So he gets back from the emergency room the next day, the dog, the kids are going to go get picked up by the grandparents.

And they're going to figure out what to do. They just need, like, time to heal and, like, time for their minds. And Catherine and him. And then as the grandparents pull up, there's this other siren sound. and the dog he sees like leaping out of the house going straight towards him again ripping him apart goes to the ER again so of course Moose is

we don't know where he is but he's no longer in the low house I do believe I mean I think you mentioned this but Sean was working with a no-kill shelter to kind of figure out where to take Moose it's really sad story for multiple reasons I'm sure they were heartbroken that their dog is you know doing this and then also kind of what he was talking about sean's hurt but yeah it's the second time i mean i hope they get like a poodle like a little stuff like a tiny little poodle that can't cause damage because goodness that's a rough go with one of god's greatest

creations a dog yeah yeah he was a boxer he's a boxer moose and um he just said that it was like so hurtful in addition to being physically hurtful of course that It was like, this is my dog. My dog is, like, tearing me up. Yeah. And it's just, that was, like, such an emotional element to it. And they only had him for three months. I thought he had him for longer, but, yeah.

I don't like it. I mean, I don't like it because it makes me sad for all of them. Christina Mandrell celebrates being five months sober. And her quote is, I'm really proud of how far I've come. Mm-hmm. So she posted this. Good for her. So, so awesome.

So she was out to dinner with Brayden, you know, another bachelor couple that we need to get on since their wedding because they got married recently. She said five months sober. And for the first time since starting this jersey, I went out, like actually went out to a restaurant with menus, mood lighting. And yes, drink specials. I get it. There's like a difference between like going out to eat to like a family restaurant and like going on a date night with that ambiance. That's going to put you in the mood for maybe more of a drink. And she goes, I hadn't been out.

all not because I didn't want to but because I didn't trust myself to be around it yet but on this night I felt ready and Braden and I got dressed up and we went somewhere that felt a little fancier than usual seafood tower and all and I told myself I could handle it she said um their booth was facing a wine cellar it was a huge wine cellar and she goes in right in excess with a triple date and they were ordering rounds and rounds to the table laughing and cheering and I'd be lying if it didn't stir something up inside me but I made it through and I made it through and I made it through more than just that, I enjoyed myself. And she was talking about how supportive

Brayden has been. And he said something really cute or was like the way that he looked at her. Yeah, he was taking pictures of her. And one picture, he goes, like, babe, this is your real smile. Like, this isn't like your smile for a picture smile. This is like your real smile that came out.

And she said that that was like a really special moment. It's a beautiful moment for both of them. And incredible accomplishment for her. I, again, have never known. know anybody who has gone sober who has regretted it. Mm-hmm. That's something to be said. Grant Ellis, we're going back to Grant for a second.

I'm going to share a couple big headlines about Katie Thurston towards the end of our headlines. But we're going to go back to Grant. Grant Ellis clears the air on his sister Taylor's feelings about fiancé Giuliana. This is according to Bachelor Nation. I believe, Ashley, this is coming off of some of the clips that were done. when Juliana and Grant Orr announces a couple on live stage and Grant's sister looked nothing but disappointed

and he's clearing the air on this now. Yeah, he was doing an interview with us weekly and he said, rest assured everyone, all is fine between Juliana and my sister. They have a great relationship and sometimes I have to tell my sister, dude, fix your face. And then he shared that that's just how his sister looks sometimes and people are going to believe what they want to believe,

but that's just her. she is she has this mentally thing this mental thing where she's like got to be a boss i don't know what that is but that's why my sister she loves juliana very much the internet can create whatever narrative they want and run with it love it my boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now i'm seriously suspicious oh wait a minute sam maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit well dakota it's back to school week on the okay story time podcast so we'll out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know

each other, but I just want her gone. Now hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. It's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this his boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not. To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

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because obviously, like, friends are in a different stage of life. Her sister was in college at the time. She goes, but I've always been kind of a homebody. So I never felt left out when people were doing something different. She said the one thing that did bother her was that her friends didn't understand. Like, if she couldn't make it to something, they would think like, oh, she's being flaky. But actually, it's like, no, I have a kid. Like, I actually have to take care of it.

And she goes, at 33, it was nice. all of my friends are pretty much in the same boat as me um she talks about different like bodily things too that happened like she felt like she lost the weight faster when she was younger but now she's in the best shape ever she was able to get herself there and um she said that she did have more energy in her 20s even if she was like still tired like she had bad night sleep you know she was able to like kind of power through and she goes now if i don't get sleep i cannot function the next day yeah it's really fun to watch amanda stanton's just life it's such a cool deal that she's pulled off two beautiful daughters at 21 and then obviously um another beautiful child at 33 and her marriage and just it's fun to follow along

especially from someone uh who had no part in this chapter in her life but got to see her um and get to know her well. I agree. She's like one of those insistrictories that I must click on when I say she's uploaded a new one. Crushing it. Good job, Amanda. Okay. Two, we're going to use this next minute and a half here to talk about the Bachelor in Paradise. Obviously, they announced that the Goldens are going to be in Paradise at some capacity with the cast members from the Bachelor and Bachelorette in Paradise. There's a thousand things. that could happen on the beaches in paradise with this dynamic existing, hopefully all of it's good, kosher, and easy for me to watch. All of us to watch. I think it's going to be beautiful.

Hey, Ben, we never got your opinion on this since you were out that day. My opinion is I love it. Oh, really? You're the only one. No, I think it's great. I'm relatively neutral, but like most people I talk to you can't stand it. Well, I think their thought goes to they're going to try to set these people up for dating and I just don't think that's going to be the case. I don't see I think the the goldens that I know are one way too wise way too like fatherly and motherly and caring to ever for a chance consider that and I think it's going to be a great dynamic of wisdom and honesty with the goldens also having so much fun. We've seen them have so much fun. I like it. I think it's going to be fun and I'm glad we get to see the Golden's in a different environment. I like that show. I'm a fan of that show.

I want to see more of them. And if it has to be on Paradise with the other contestants, I'll gladly take it. Yeah. I think it could be a huge win if the show does it well. If we see Susan and Kathy making out with a 22-year-old, that's when I stop watching this show forever. Okay. Yeah, I don't think it'll happen. When you put it in perspective for these people, It is like making out with your child's friend. Yeah, it's, it's not going to happen. It's just not a thing. It's, it, they're, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the golden's are way too wise to let that

happen, but if it ever even gets hinted at, I think it's stupid, keep it separate. Um, um, but here's the stories, uh, the golden bachelor, Gary Turner turned down offer to join Bachelor in paradise. A little bit shocking to me, because I do think he would have done well there. it's interesting he did and he explains why Ashley tell us yes he passed it down because he said

simply I've already dated these women there's only one season of women to go through and I was in charge of dating them so unless they were to add in extras basically for him personally he is not interested sure makes sense it does make sense

give him a few years here oh he also said that he'd be open to a cameo or filling in for Wells as bartender. I don't think he's going to get that gig, but if there's two bars, one for the Goldens and one for the regulars, that would make sense. See, this is where I should come back in

and make my push. I don't want to take Wells' job. There's nobody that can do this better than Wells. But if there is two bars, two separate filming spots, I personally feel like I should be the bartender for the Golden's because I've wanted to be a part of that show since the very beginning.

I was willing to work on the show. I was willing to clean for the show. I was willing to do anything possible to be around these people more. Maybe it's time for me to make a second push. Just say it. Just tell them again. Okay. I want to be a part of this show for anybody listening.

We don't know any producers there anymore, though. So help us out if you have connections. Yeah. So if you're listening, whoever you are, we've never met, but I would love to be a part of this. I was The Bachelor about nine years ago. Um, you know, some would say it was a decent time in the franchise. Susan Knowles and Kathy Swartz, two of my absolute favorite people, not only from the show, but in the world that I love being around that are sweet and caring and generous and fun and

always down to create story and do some wild things to do it. They're hilarious together. They discuss Golden's joining Bachelor in Paradise. And if they want to hit the beach this summer. Okay, I haven't read this yet. I haven't seen anything about this, but just from the headline, there is zero doubt in my mind that Susan and Kathy do not want to be on the beach this summer. Susan and Kathy will be there. It's almost a certain guarantee as they are the hosts of a Warner Brothers podcast. They want their hosts to be on the show and then more people will listen to their podcast. So they're joking about what kind of bathing suits, I guess there's actually a serious conversation.

It's not joking about what kind of bathing suits they'll be wearing if they do hit the beach. Kathy says she will 100% be, oh, yeah, okay, yes, Kathy, 100% will not be in a bikini. She says that she's going to have on her bathing suit to the 1940s with long sleeves and a long skirt. And Susan says that she doesn't even own a one piece. She'll be in bikini all the way. But she said, watch out for her pudge. She is 68 and it is there. I just want them there.

They will be there. This is why I cannot wait to watch a show. The two of them specifically. Narrating the situations, hilarious. Just so good. They're going to be drunk off their ass, just talking, commentating. They're the best two people to hang out with. Okay.

Final headline of, no, let's share this one real quick. Yeah, there's two. Um, I love Zach Clark. He's doing great work, um, for those in recovery and that are still processing recovery. Zach Clark and Grant Ellis's dad, Rob, who we saw specifically on the, you know, final segments of the show, joined together to support addiction recovery. The quote is, I'm eternally grateful. Yes. So Zach went on Instagram to share how he and Grant, father, Rob, are currently working together to support each other in recovery journeys. So Rob actually reveals that when Grant initially mentioned him on the show and he heard him saying,

my dad was an addict for 30 years and he lied to me, but he was my superhero. He didn't even know he was going to say that. The first time he heard about it was when it aired on TV. And then Zach asked Rob if he got sober because of Grant was going to be, because Grant was going to be on TV. And he replied that he was already in the process of recovering. He said, no, no, I was in rehab. I was getting ready to leave the place. I was getting ready to go into the Salvation Army. And then then Zach called him and said, I have a foundation and we're going to look out for you. And then Zach said that his thing, you know, everything is about forgiveness and love. and compassion and in recovery and now it's great because together and this whole storyline is

helping people and paying it forward it's beautiful it uh the work that's being done and the two of them coming together to advocate speak about and share the support that they have for each other during this time um it could not take a second here it could not have been easy on grant's dad to have this kind of process happen because he's in recovery, he is walking through recovery, then it's brought to the world. So to see the support that Zinnzak and his foundation gave him, I'm sure meant a lot and helped him get through this time. And now it's going to do a lot of good for a lot of people. Yeah. And again, his recovery name, the name of his foundation, release recovery. So if you

know anybody who needs it, check that out, Zach Clark's release recovery. Good clients of generous coffee as well. Oh, yeah? Yeah, yeah. Helpful. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now hold up, isn't that against school policy?

That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

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online, looking for some online lenders because they tend to have fewer fees and be more affordable. Listen, I am not here to judge. It is so expensive in these streets. I 100% can see how in just a few months you can have this much credit card debt when it weighs on you. It's really easy to just like stick your head in the sand. It's nice and dark in the sand. Even if it's scary, it's not going to go away just because you're avoiding it. And in fact, it may get even worse. For more judgment-free money advice, listen to Brown Ambition on the IHeart Radio app, podcast or wherever you get your podcast. Hola, it's Honey German.

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Final headline of today. So last week and for the last few weeks, we've been talking a lot about Katie Thurston. We had her on the podcast. We got to ask her the questions that so many people have been wondering and asking as she's been very vulnerable. vulnerable and very open about her process of finding out she had breast cancer, and then walking into what she believed was during our interview the next week when she would start treatment. Then last week, we gave an update that her treatment had been stalled. They'd put it on pause because they were worried about the cancer spreading.

Yeah, she had a pet scan, and there was something on her liver. they biopsied it and it came back on Friday that it is indeed stage four cancer that her breast cancer has spread to her liver. And this is obviously awful news. Katie still says that she is zero percent scared, which is amazing. Now she also shares that she's going to start treatment next week when she was on the podcast and I encourage all of you to go back and listen to it because she shares a lot of great insight into her experience, how you can check yourself personally, and then also about her treatment plan at the time. It wasn't your routine traditional treatment plan that she was walking into. And so I think the question so many of us have now,

Ashley, is if her treatment plan is going to pick back up again, what does her treatment look like? And is it different than what she shared with us? Well, I know that she told us or she told Instagram a couple days ago that if it did indeed metastasized, that she wasn't able to be part of the experimental treatment that she was going to go through. It's not experimental treatment. It was like it was the same chemo, but given in different types of rounds. Now the plan is essentially, she said the same as before, though cancer is within, like the cancer that's within the liver is spreading from the breast cancer. it's not a new type of cancer so my breast cancer is still the root and will be the focus and it will be six rounds of chemotherapy to start i believe that she starts now this coming friday um if you guys want to follow along day by day katy does have the the booby broadcast in which she basically texts you it feels like it's a text every day or multiple times a day and she gives updates i'm looking at it right now

Here it is. So she says, yes, getting ready for chemo on Friday. I have my cold cap kit, my frozen gloves and socks. That's trying, the cold cap is that she's going to try to keep her hair through this. And this is a new mechanism, which it can sometimes be effective for that. It's not new, Ashley. You want to hear something crazy? It's not too new.

My dad, when he had cancer at 30 or a cold cap and kept his hair through the whole thing. So why do not more people do it? Because people also said that Kate Middleton may have done this. I don't know why they didn't, they don't, like more people don't do it. But he, his, I mean, I'm sure it's advanced since then, but he used to literally have a cap with ice. It was like an ice cap that he put on his head and it would help keep the hair. Oh, interesting. I mean, that was 37 years ago.

Yeah. Your dad still has hair. Yeah. Never lost it. Yeah. I know. Wow. She said that she's glad that she has her port, that she has a built-in,

port and that she's just needing suggestions right now as to how the past the time while getting the chemo. She says people are telling me to bring snacks, wear something warm. If you have any advice out there, let me know. She also got her period this week, and she said that she's never been happier to get a period. She says the first time she's gotten one since late January, and it's made her feel normal. I would recommend to Katie, who's a listener of our show already, to save the Almost Famous Podcast for those moments because nothing helps the time go faster

than listening to the Almost Famous Podcast. It is some pure entertainment. Ashley, the final question will answer about Katie because it's the one written into us. Do we have any idea? Do you have any idea from what you have read or have you spoken to Katie or however you get all of your amazing insights

on her husband's plans. Because when she talked to us, he was going back on tour. I know that has, this treatment has changed. And so is her husband going back on tour? Is he staying home? Kind of what's happening there? So she posted as part of a Q&A the other day on Instagram that her treatment is spread out as six treatments

and they're three weeks apart. And each treatment is essentially a dedicated day to travel, infusions, and recovery. And he'll probably miss the first three, but she said the good news is if she wants to, she can still travel to wherever he is as early as the next day after receiving the chemo, which perhaps sounds ambitious, but also she's a rock star and she should do whatever makes her feel the best. Right, right. Okay, that's all the headlines we have for you today.

There was a lot of headlines, some juicy ones, some big ones. Let's see if Kathy and Susan will make it to paradise. see who will be in paradise also as always uh please go on follow katie thurston right now as she continues to share updates educate advocate but also uh in the midst of when somebody is doing so much to educate and advocate you for you also don't forget to support her in the best ways possible so until next time i've been ben i've been ashley see you guys follow the ben and Ashley I, Almost Famous Podcasts on IHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts. Hi, my name is Enya Yumanzoor.

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