The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - In the Bonds of Sisterhood, This is the Most Sacred…We Reveal the Secrets of Initiation

Episode Date: December 13, 2025

In an episode so top secret, we’ve disguised the voices of our sisters. We’re tearing down the walls of this long standing mysterious ritual. This is our riskiest episode to date. We take you inside INITIATION.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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life. We are lifting the veil on the most mysterious part of joining a sorority, which has never been discussed publicly until now. We're talking about initiation, the transition from pledge to sorority sister, a process that has been kept top secret for well over a century. This bonding ritual is so steeped in tradition. Generations of pledges have been sworn to secrecy, but today, those secrets are coming out. The following guests agreed to reveal what really happens during initiation, provided they remain completely anonymous, to the point where we, as hosts, couldn't speak to them directly. That is how sacred this pact for sisterhoods around the country is. The voices you are about to hear

have been altered. The identities blurred, but the stories are 100% authentic. This is what every sorority in America doesn't want you to know. So initiation is definitely one of those things in sorority life that is, that people are more apprehensive to talk about. I feel like because it's so ritual-based and it's so individual to the sorority, people are super secretive about it. And there's definitely details that I feel protective over, but it's hard to explain why. I think just because it's so individual to your sorority, and that is your entrance to all of it, and it feels so sacred. But there definitely are some things that I am willing to share. I think mostly it's just kind of a blur. Essentially, you go to the house in different shifts of time.

And in my sorority, I think there were three different shifts of time. So there were three different groups of girls that went to the house. And you're all kind of shuttled into this room where you are supposed to change into these robe, gown things. And you don't really know what's about to happen. So there's a lot of anticipation and there's a lot of speculation beforehand between girls about what's going to happen. And people like to think they know stuff or spread rumors about things that are going to happen that are scary or whatever, but really none of it's scary. It's just unknown. And the older girls come in once you're ready. And what happened for us is they just took us room to room, but you're supposed to

close your eyes in between each room, which I thought was really interesting, probably to just keep that element of surprise alive. But everybody's like covering their eyes and holding hands and walking in the line and it feels so silly. And then in every room that we ended up in. And then in every room that we ended up in within the house there was a ritual to be performed or something that was read and it kind of just took you through like all of the all of these different ceremonies that represented the virtues of the sorority or the most important symbols and things like that and there was one room in particular where you were instructed to drink something and I won't give the name of it away because I feel like it would give the name of my sorority away pretty easily, but you're instructed

to drink something. And I have a lot of food allergies, so I was really apprehensive, and I was like, huh, like, no, I'm going to pass, like, what's in this? And they were like, we can't tell you, it's a secret. And you just have to drink it. And I was like, no, like, I have a lot of allergies. Like, can you just tell me what's in it? And they wouldn't tell me what was in it. And they were like, we think it'll be fine. Like, it's stuff that people would not typically be allergic to. And I, looking back, should have just stood up for myself more, but I ended up drinking it. And I was allergic to the juice that was in it. It wasn't alcohol or anything bad like that. It was just this weird mixture of some sort of juice that I was allergic to. To this day, I don't even know what was in it.

They wouldn't tell me. But I did end up having to leave initiation early because I drank this juice and I needed to to go find a Benadryl. So that was my experience with initiation. I got through a few of the rituals, but I actually never completed the entire thing. So it was interesting in the following years to be an older girl who was leading initiation and to see the other parts of it fully come together. Because when I was initiated, I didn't get to like fully experience the whole thing through. one other thing that I loved that they did that I thought was just the sweetest part of it all was at the end when you went back into that original room that you were in where you changed into your robes and everything they had slipped these letters from older girls into our bags so we all left not like really knowing anything but then later on throughout the day people started realizing that these letters from older girls had been slipped into our bags and it was so fun to read just the words of encouraging. for college and the words of advice for soaking it all in and like really enjoying your years and your sorority. And everybody had such a sweet sentiment. So I thought that that was a

really sweet part of initiation as well. Okay. So when it was like bid day and we got into our sororities and we're all so excited. And I think like when I was going through a rush, it was like right before like the Bama Rush stuff and it got like huge. So, but it was still like, I didn't know much about it. So whatever got my bid and I was all excited. And then like the next day we're getting all of our information like, okay, initiation is in three weeks. And then so I think for initiation, we were kind of like, oh, what is this? And like you always like hear things, especially as a freshman and you don't really know, like, anything about sorority stuff. Like, you hear, like, these crazy, like, horror stories that are, like, they do blah, blah, and blah.

Like, they call you fat, like, whatever. And so, like, that was always something that we were scared about or, like, just like any freshman would be that doesn't know anything about Rush. And then, so I think it was three weeks later, we went through, we had, like, meetings that we would go in and they would talk about the sorority and all the history of the sorority. and then our initiation day and the night before we got a text and was like show up in nude underwear and in nude bra and white socks

so we were like okay this is really creepy like are we going to be naked like that's really weird so anyway we like we're all kind of like thinking like what is about to happen we have to be all in nude underwear

this is weird then we ended up going we like had blindfolds they like blindfolded us and that someone like brought us like held our backs and like walked us to we were somewhere like in the school but it was like this random like big huge room with nothing in it we had blindfolds on and then they like brought us up and there was a curtain we were like on a stage but the curtain was closed and then they were like okay you can take your blindfolds us change into this and it was like this like white sack and and it was like so weird and then we had like to tie like a when we had a rope to tie around us and it was like just creepy and then we put our blindfolds back on and then they let us down like these stairs and then we like walk into a room that people are like humming and it's really creepy and culty and then like we all they lead us into our circle

and then they're like, okay, saying all these weird chants and singing songs, whatever, and they're like, okay, you can take off your blindfolds now. And so we would take off our blindfolds and then some people would like turn around and it would be someone that they're like their relative, their mom, their sister that was in the same sorority as them. And so like they surprised them, they turned around

and it was like, oh my gosh, your mom's here. And that was like really cute. And then one of my friends turned around and her sister was there. And I don't know if it was like just like we were so like anxious and like her seeing her sister as a surprise, but she just like fainted. And so that kind of put like a damper on the whole initiation process. So then the ambulance came. They checked her out. She ended up being fine,

but then we just went right back to chanting our weird songs and singing. And then we got like our pins, and that was about it. I'm Stefan Curry, and this is Gentleman's Cut. I think what makes Gentleman's Cut different is me being a part of, you know, developing the profile of this beautiful finished product. With every sip, you get a little something different. Visit gentlemen's cut bourbon.com or your nearest total wines or Bevmo. This message is intended for audiences 21 and older.

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We don't just want you to live longer. We want you to live better. So check out the mailroom on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your favorite shows. I remember initiation is a little bit of a blur because it happened in the morning after you know, freshman year. I never really took a Saturday night easy and our initiation was on a Sunday morning. And I remember not just me, but me and a bunch of my sorority sisters had gone out the night before. And we were just like scrambling to get to the house on time. I remember particularly my freshman year, the seniors were really mean to us. They just were really just like on a high horse and just like a power trip. And I remember them screaming at us in the group chat being like if you are late to your initiation time, you are being dropped from the sorority. And so it was a really big deal that we get there on time. And I remember me and my friends down the hall in my dorm who were also in my sorority.

we all woke up late to like for our initiation that was that morning and it's a sunday morning and we're all scrambling we're ordering an uber to the sorority house that's only just like across campus usually you'd walk and we all scramble and get there on time but then we realize that they told us that we need to memorize these so i'm just thought myself the thing about initiation is that it's really even all these years later something that's very sacred to sorority and I was in a sorority that were just like really prioritized tradition. So it was, it's hard to like reveal certain aspects, but I can say that we did have these like ceremonial songs that we would all sing. And it was a big,

especially to our sorority, we really, really like had to sing the songs. And they had to assigned us the songs prior to initiation and we were supposed to like as part of our initiation learn these songs and you know sometimes when you're hung over and you're just still think you're still drunk and I remember like being put into robes to start the initiation were blindfolded crossing from room to room and not only did I not memorize the song that we were supposed to sing but none of us like remember the song that we were supposed to sing and we were being blindfolded and walked from one room to the next and I just start cracking up and then soon enough like everyone in the line walking

to the next room everyone is just dying laughing and these seniors that took our sorority very seriously just were so pissed and they were like you guys are being so disrespectful you Can't believe you didn't learn the song, and we heard all about it on chapter that Monday morning, but in the moment, we, everyone just started laughing and they didn't really know what to do with themselves. So soon enough, like, we quieted the laughs and went on to the next room and carried on with the ceremony. But needless to say, our pledge class was then dubbed the worst PC ever, because when we came to chapter that Monday morning, they literally told us,

you guys are the worst pledge class we've ever had. We've never had people not know the song. Nevertheless, erupt in laughter while trying, attempting to sing the song. And we continued on that reputation. We all got very close our pledge class, but we definitely really pushed the envelope in terms of what was allowed in when we all lived in the house and just moving on but we were all very close and yeah that's what I remember about initiation I also remember just being very hung over and

not wanting to go so that's all I can really say initiation is like it's the one part of the sorority that I'm probably the most secretive about like the most sort of protective about and I don't really know why I don't really know much about other initiations. So I feel like other people are really secretive about it too. Maybe it's the one thing that feels sacred. I don't know if that's a weird way to describe it. There's a few things I am willing to say. But of all the things, like rush, I would give secrets living in the sorority. Like, I would never tell somebody my password, the door knock, the handshake, unless they were another member of that sorority.

Like even right now, I don't even want to say what school I went to or what sorority I was in because I am going to say a few things about initiation because I think there is a lot of curiosity. And like I said, I know a lot of things about Greek life. And I don't know anything about other people's initiations, especially the boys. I don't know anything about what they do. So here's what I will say at the time when I was initiated. And I have only vague memories of it. And I think that's also because it's very early in the morning and you're kind of tired.

And I only remember being initiated. I have some vague memories of that. And I remember doing initiation like once. I'm sure I did it a few other times. So what I will say is I didn't live at the house at the time in the sorority. I live somewhere else. But I remember we spent the night in the sorority. So I think you go, you sleep in other girls' rooms.

This is all my vague memories. And I can remember, I think my big sister wakes you up very early and you put on what they refer to as a robe, but like we're not talking like a barefoot dreams robe. Like this isn't like a cozy like robe that has like coffee mugs on it. Like it was like almost like a cap and gown type robe. No cap. So I would call it a gown. And I have a vague memory of a belt that was like a cord.

I don't want to say rope because that makes it sound scary. But I think it was like a, you tied the robe or the gown so that you could like walk around. And I kind of remember like it was very early. Now, if I was blindfolded, I also don't totally remember. They might have just said close your eyes. I don't really like being blindfolded. So I might have said like, I promise I'll close my eyes. Just don't blindfold me.

And they kind of like walk you around the house and you don't really know where you are and you don't really know what's happening. The part I will reveal. is. I went into this room and I kind of knew what room I was going into. The room was all red and I look up and I kind of remember being on my knees, not in a weird way. That sounds like inappropriate. It's not like that. You're just kind of like sitting but kneeling. I don't know. And I look up and my mom was in the room. Now, to give you context, my mom was in the same sorority as me at the same school. So she never told me, but obviously, somehow she figured it out or they call her, she calls and she knows what time to be there.

And she's got like a, I kind of remember her with like a book and she's reading something. Now, I'm not going to call it a prayer because it wasn't a prayer, but it was like she's reading something. Now, you're completely like bewildered or whatever the word is, like, because you're so early and you're like, what's happening that I cannot remember anything she said because I'm like, my mom's in here. And then I do remember going back out and one of my really, really good friends saying, like, dude, your mom was in there. Like, so I can remember that. And it was all red. And my mom was wearing either the same thing I was wearing or like, I don't know, maybe a slightly different version. And then it goes on and on.

And then I can remember going into a big room. And I think my big sister was there and my mom. And there was sort of like a ceremony. and my mom was involved in it and I think they give you something. I don't want to reveal what because again, I'm being like, this is the one thing that I'm kind of a bit more secretive about. She gives me something.

I'll call it a piece of jewelry. And it was hers that she then gave to me. I actually think she didn't trust me at the time and took it back. I think she still has it. I definitely don't have it. and I can remember like the only part I will reveal is I had no idea what a palm fron was and definitely through sorority life I now know what a palm fron was so there are definitely palm fronds involved and then I think it was like a breakfast then it kind of gets normal

after sort of this ceremony then it's just like any old other sort of sorority party so that's the part that I feel comfortable sharing I definitely was on the other side of initiation one or two times. I also think this is the other thing. I think it's kind of a pain in the ass. I'm not going to lie. Like, I think it's a lot of work to do. So I kind of remember seniors sort of tapping out, like being like, I'm not doing initiation. So that is the top, top, most secret things I am willing to reveal. And I'm very curious to hear what other people have to say. okay so for my initiation um i remember like always hearing about fraternity initiations but never really sorority initiations i feel like for fraternities it's usually like the end of their pledship and like

it's at the end of the semester or end of the year depending on the school and so i feel like it was always like a big deal for fraternity men to get initiated because it kind of meant like they were at the end of all their pledging and everything so it was like a big deal for them but I never had really heard much about sorority initiation so for me I remember leading up to initiation the only thing we ever had to do was it was like dressing up so once a week we had to dress up and like a nice outfit it wasn't like anything like really specific but I remember just couldn't be like workout clothes or jeans actually I think jeans were allowed but you just had to dress up and look nice but we got initiated with only like two months into the year so it wasn't that long but i always remember that

leading up and like girls being really nervous if they didn't dress up not that anything would have happened but we were all like nervous about what could happen if we didn't dress up and if we would get in trouble or whatnot i remember the day of initiation was the sunday after a huge football game at my school so i remember everyone honestly just kind of dreading it like obviously it's a big deal to get initiated because you're like finally into your sorority and like it's all real and sealed. But I just remember everyone being really hung over and having a really early start time. So no one was really that excited about it. You also had to get to the house really early and stay even if your group was like at the very end.

So I remember just my group being at the very end. But I remember being at the end. And then finally it was my turn to go. And I remember they made a mess up with my big because I had a really close friend in my swore. and they thought she was my big the entire time leading up to it, I guess. So my big wasn't there to get me initiated because they didn't tell her to be there for that time because they didn't know I was in the group. So a random person initiated me, which was like a bummer because it was always supposed to be her big and that was kind of the whole like special part of it. So I remember

being really weirded out about that. But it was fine. It was someone I didn't know, but it was nothing crazy. I remember getting blindfolded and we had to wear ritual whites. We had to be in a white dress and we had to wear socks with no logos, which is so random now thinking about it. And then you couldn't have makeup on. So you had to be in your ritual whites with socks and no makeup. And then you would put on a robe and a blindfold. But you would get like walked into this room and it was dark. And then you'd have to like kneel down it on a pillow. And then I just remember them really just reading something to me the whole time. They were just reading and then they'd like walk you in a circle. And I think they like tapped on our head or something. But then you would, we like did a lot of

standing up and then kneeling down on the pillow. But it wasn't that much standing up. But later on, after all this was over, I remember hearing that once I left the house and everything, one of the girls in a different group passed out during initiation because I guess her knees locked, which thinking back I'm like we weren't even standing for that long so I don't really know how that would have happened but they had to like stop that whole group and obviously like everyone's blindfolds came off so I just can't even like imagine what that group was like but I remember her knees locked and she passed out so they had to like stop the whole thing which is just wild but she was fine like I think she was just dehydrated probably because of the day before was a big party day with a game day

and everything and everyone was exhausted so I think her knees just locked and she passed out but yeah definitely not great. I do remember I was actually in charge or like assisting to being in charge of like ritual the following year when I was a sophomore. I was like the assistant ritual person. And so pretty much the initiation was my only job. And I actually got a work opportunity. So I left that weekend and my sorority was really strict on excuses from all the rituals and expect. initiation so I was like the only person allowed to not go which was really ironic because it was literally my only job but I remember all of my friends being pissed because they all had to go and sit there for like 10 hours all day while I was not even in town and it was like my only job so

yeah I remember that also so I never actually was on the other side of initiation because then we would always get excused from it when we were older just because they wouldn't need juniors and seniors there so I never really got to see it from the outside but I feel like because we got to take our blindfolds off like at the very end of it I like knew what it was but yeah I think that's my initiation story

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visit gentlemen's cut bourbon.com or your nearest total wines or bevmo. This message is intended for audiences 21 and older. Gentlemen's Cut Bourbon, Boone County, Kentucky. For more on gentlemen's cut bourbon, please visit gentlemen's cuthuburn. Please enjoy responsibly. Have you ever listened to those true crime shows and found yourself with more questions than answers? And what is this? How is that not a story we all know?

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Honestly, it feels more like a high-level prank than a crime. Who catfish is a city? And meets some memorable anti-heroes. There are thousands of angry, horny monkeys. Clap if you think she's a witch. And it freaks you out. He has X-ray vision. How could I not follow him?

Honestly, I got to follow me. He can see right through me. Listen to Crimless on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Dad had the strong belief that the devil was attacking us. Two brothers. One devout household. Two radically different paths. Gabe Ortiz became one of the highest-ranking law enforcement officers in Texas.

32 years, total law enforcement experience. But his brother Larry, he stayed behind and built an entirely different legacy. He was the head of this gang, and nobody was going to tell him what to do. You're going to push that line for the calls. Took us under his wing and showed us the game, as they call it. When Larry is murdered, Gabe is forced to confront the past he tried to leave behind and uncover secrets he never saw coming. My dad had a whole other life that we never knew about.

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so basically there's not much that I can necessarily recall from initiation I feel like for me at least my sorority which I will not disclose is very sort of known to be like the chill sorority sort of the more like granola sorority almost and I think with that like all of our rituals that we do are so unplanned or last minute done and so I remember at least when I was a freshman getting initiated I had no idea it was going on obviously because you are a freshman and you're not supposed to know but then once I was a sophomore like rehearsing the whole entire little like ritual in the morning we all did it so last minute and it was so disorganized and I like had no idea as a freshman how much of a sort of like

flop it was because we you think it has to be this like big sort of rehearsed you know elusive secretive event and it really just was not that at all. I remember like people were laughing when they were singing like a song. That was one of our parts is we have to like sing a song. We're all basically in these robes and we have to sing a song while these girls are getting initiated. And then we start having to hum the exact song the whole entire time and we're humming for about 10 to 15 minutes. So that was always very interesting because we would hear so many girls just like chuckling and laughing the whole time. But to set the same, scene for a freshman or for a new member that's just getting newly initiated. What was hard for

us was that our initiation always happened to be the Sunday following Halloween. So it was always Halloween and it was always that Sunday. So everyone was just like immensely hungover. But we all come to the house bright and early in the morning at like 8 a.m. I believe. And we all have to come in and they told us to wear a white dress and then nude undergarments. And it was so strange to me as a freshman because I was like, why are these like girls telling me to wear nude underwear? What are they going to do? Like are we going to like undress in front of them and we need to wear nude? It was like terrifying me. But we show up to the house and we're in our white dresses and best believe I have my nude undergarments on. And then we go upstairs into like the girls' rooms. We had this like big

room that fit like 10 people and so we all just changed in there into these like robes and so they weren't like cute little like bath robes necessarily it was like a not even we called them robes but they were more like togas or it looked like like a bed sheet it was just pure white like sheet on us and then a little cord that we had to tie a specific way and none of us really tied it correctly but it was like we had to tie the cord to the left and then once you get initiated you had to shift it to the right. And so it made sense that they had asked us to wear nude undergarments in kind of a weird way, because I guess they couldn't disclose, like, yeah, you guys are going to put on these little, like, bed sheets. But it made sense because I did see a girl that had, like, red lace

underwear, and you could very much see that through the little thin rope. So that was interesting. And there's, like, parents there and advisors and everything like that. So it was funny that she was a little bit exposed. But then we walked down in line with our bigs. And our bigs walk us down and then suddenly we hear everyone like in a circle the lights are off in the chapter room there's like candles and they're singing one of the like songs of our sorority and it's so it feels so like mysterious and almost kind of scary or like something out of like like scream queens the way they do their like rituals um and so then they start saying all this random stuff of like sort of you know devouting yourself as a sister like reading off of a speech um and then we all go

down and like get on our knees and we write like on a signature on this little book just our name and that we're getting initiated and then we do like a little secret handshake with the girl that is initiating us um so it was all very funny to me as a freshman and even as a sophomore and as a junior too it was always so funny to be on the other side as well because you're just humming for like ten minutes straight while you're watching these hungover girls kneel down and sign a little book and so it just was so funny because you just get so tired of it and people are humming terribly or people are hungover. I had a friend who last year was so hungover from Halloween

that she had to walk out of initiation and then we could hear her throwing up in the bathroom next door and then she just came back and acted like nothing happened and like our advisors didn't bat an eye or anything and then just kept singing the song. So yeah, I think it's super, super weird sometimes. On the bright side, I think that my sorority all has this sort of like consensus that it's weird and it's a tradition and we have to keep it up even though it's kind of funny, although sometimes maybe we should have taken it a little bit more seriously. I think we sharpen up when the advisors are paying attention, but it definitely is like a very interesting experience. How'd you told me I like four years ago would be undressing and nude undergarments and putting on a robe to like kneel in front of like 150 girls?

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