The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Infamous: Secrets of The Mansion Part 2

Episode Date: May 22, 2025

Ben and Ashley’s exploration through the hidden passages of The Bachelor Mansion continues as we welcome some Bachelor Nation superstars to share their stories. And, find out the peculiar item Ben made sure to pack when he came to the Mansion. Follow The Almost Famous Podcast on Instagram!  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, it's Daniel Fischel. Writer Strong. And Will Ferdell from PodMeets World. We are back in Las Vegas and giving the people what they want, a full week of Y2K content. Tell me why. Well, for the Backstreet Boys residency at Sphere, of course.

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Ben Higgins and Ashley I bring you infamous. Sometimes roses are red flags. We're here with part two of... talking with some of your favorite contestants, some of our favorite contestants, about the Bachelor Mansion. We had so much fun in part one. If you haven't listened to it, go back and listen to it. It's just fun to hear some of the behind the scenes, the stories that have happened at the mansions, some things that people hope never change, and some things they hope do change within those walls. So make sure you go back, listen to Part 1, but until you do, now we have

part two coming up. And this is a reminder that we're doing this episode, because HGT, has announced that they're doing a new competition show with Patch Bachelor alums and they're going to be renovating the Bachelor Mansion. Guy, obviously the Bachelor Mansion is getting renovated. It just was announced by HGTV. So we're talking a little bit about the Bachelor Mansion today with a few guests who have lived there.

Okay. Guy, we just got done talking to Rachel Rechia and we were talking about how people work out at the mansion. I'm assuming you did you look like you did at least and so if you didn't get on you if you did work out at the mansion how did you do it?

Yeah what they did was on the well let's see if you were in the back the back area pool area to the left and then kind of on the side they were kind enough to

to get like a couple of yoga mats some dumbbells. Actually, Pascal actually had them order dumbbells and had them deliver to the mansions that we had some dumbbells to use.

Some stretch bands they had there and at a bench. And so you know, that's where we worked out. And you know, everybody was different.

I would work out every morning depending on how much time we had, depending on what was going on that day. Sometimes I'd be over there for 30 minutes. Sometimes I'd be over there for two hours. And then the pool was almost a cold bath pool. It was 22 feet long, so it was just a, you know, a few feet short of a pool you would swim in, you know, in competition. And I brought my goggles and my hat, and I would then get in the pool. and I'd swim anywhere from 30 minutes to an hour and a half sometimes. And I just do laps back and forth.

So that was my routine. A lot of the other guys would come over to, obviously, you know, there's, you know, not everybody, you know, did that, but a lot of them did. And they'd come over and, you know, lift, you know, when we talk and while we're working out and whatnot. I found that the water was always too cold for me to go into. you know I'm a water wuss also okay I'm the ultimate water wuss never heard that before but if the temperature is below 82 I find it hard to get into and it was below 82 degrees it was it seemed to

warm up a little bit and I I typically didn't get in the pool early early I would go in at 8 o'clock in the morning I usually wait until it you know warmed up a little bit outside And then I just, I just bit the bullet and I just dove in, even though I hate it. Guy, we're talking about the mansion. As you think about, if you give us like a few seconds explanation of what it's like to have the Goldens living in the mansion at the same time. We know what it's like from the Bachelor and Bachelorette world. But what is it like to have? Because I'm going to give some stereotypes out there, some people that are.

are pretty stuck in their ways. Some people who have probably lived alone in most of the guys on the show, it seems like, or girls, are pretty well off. So they've built this very comfortable setting for them at home. They have their nutrition. They have their food. They have their comfy beds. They don't have to sleep next to a guy who's snoring. So give us an explanation of what life looks like behind the scenes. Yeah. To start with that, I think the thing that struck me first was that and I was in the middle bedroom so there was five of us

in this bedroom with two bunk beds and a single bed and I was lucky enough to get the single bed because I was the oldest of the group that's how we decided

how to do it it was small and then the bathroom was itty-bitty I mean there was not you know you couldn't put two people in there

and only way to have two people was one in a shower and one at the sink and that was it So it was very, very tight quarters, you know, with that. So that was different. And then you've heard the stories about the snoring and stuff. And that was everybody dealt with that a different way.

I had my earplugs right from the beginning. So I was prepared for that. So far as, you know, what I was really surprised about was I thought, I thought, oh, they're going to treat us like, you know, like, you know, kings. And we're going to, every morning. and we're going to get up and somebody will have made us break, you know, some kind of breakfast,

you know, meal and then it's the same thing for lunch and the same thing for dinner. Little than I know we're going to have to do all this ourselves. And so for some of us like myself, who doesn't do a lot of cooking unless you consider opening a can up cooking. So it was a little bit sad. It was different for me. But, you know,

everybody, because we had several of the guys who were very, very, very good cooks. And then some of the handlers would cook in the morning and stuff like that. And, you know, I really couldn't help that way at the level that they were cooking. But I know how, I know wash and dry dishes. Oh, that's nice. That's very, that's very great way to contribute. Yeah.

And it allowed me time while the other guys were doing things to, you know, to be involved and communicate, not just sit by the pool the whole time. Yeah, smart. Yeah. Oh, good. Now, Guy,

it's a competition show that they're about to do on HGTV. What do you think the competitors can add to the mansion to help them win? Gosh, that would be, I mean, it depends on how much renovation,

you know, they want to do if they're going to knock down walls or whether they're just going to just try to spiff it up. I clearly think there should be, you know, I think if they didn't have to use all the bedrooms downstairs, I think it would have been really comfortable because we would have had like two, maybe three people in a room instead of like one room had nine, we had five, another had four, but multiple bedrooms downstairs had to be utilized for the video, the audio,

interview rooms, things like that. And there must have been at least four of those downstairs. So, you know, more bedrooms. Probably if they could, you know, they could make them all single beds that were, you know, that were not bunk beds because there was a few of the guys had a little trouble getting up to the top bunk beds sometimes. I loved my bunk bed. My bunk bed was where I got privacy in a private moment and I could journal or I could just hide.

That's interesting, yeah, because I was a huge journal. I journaled over a book and a half while I was there. And I still have it. And I go back and actually, I only looked at it one time briefly, but it's something I wanted to do. It was part of my therapy, actually. Yeah, I still have mine as well. Hey, guy, thanks for jumping on today. We're talking about The Bachelor Mansion with some of past favorites,

so we appreciate you coming on. Absolutely. December 29th, 1975, LaGuardia Airport. The holiday rush, parents hauling luggage, kids gripping their new Christmas toys. Then, at 6.33 p.m., every day. changed. There's been a bombing at the TWA terminal. Apparently, the explosion actually impelled metal glass.

The injured were being loaded into ambulances. Just a chaotic, chaotic scene. In its wake, a new kind of enemy emerged, and it was here to stay. Terrorism. Law and order, criminal justice system is back. In season two, we're turning our focus to a threat. that hides in plain sight. That's harder to predict and even harder to stop.

Listen to the new season of Law and Order Criminal Justice System on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her.

Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him?

Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend, really cheated with his professor or not. To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hello, it's Daniel Fischel. Writer Strong. And Will Ferdell from PodMeets World.

And we're bringing you Viva Las Content. That's right. We are back in Las Vegas, the city of Sin, and giving the people what they want. A full week of Y2K content. Wait, we're back in Vegas? Tell me why? Well, for the best. Backstreet Boys' residency at Sphere, of course.

We sat down with Kevin Richardson and A.J. McLean just minutes before they took the stage, and our very own Wilfredel basically became the newest member of the band. Boy band, please. Plus, the man who has the longest running comedy show on the strip joins us and gets his props. It's Carrot Top, Baby. And finally, we all L-O-V-E-Hur, Ashley Simpson-Ross, joins us to talk about her upcoming sold out Vegas residency. It's a full week of nostalgic interviews

you don't want to miss. Listen to PodMeets World on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of the on-purpose podcast, and today I'm joined by one of the greatest athletes of all time, Novak Djokovic. The world's number one, mild tennis player.

He's won 14 grand slams in a glittering career. Novak Djokovic! You've been through so many injuries, Lossie. I always showed himself, what has Novak Djokovic done? What goes through your mind when you lose? I just want to be left alone. What has it taken to become Novak Djokovic?

It's a consistent practice. It's prayer work, mindfulness, meditation, conscious breathing. It requires more responsibility from you on a daily basis to prepare yourself for the biggest battle. When you reach your 30, you start counting your days to your retirement. I'm 38 this year. How far can I go? How long can I push my own limits?

Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Have you ever wished for a change but weren't sure how to make it? Maybe you felt stuck in a job, a place, or even a relationship. I'm Emily Tish Sussman, and on she pivots, I dive into the inspiring pivots of women who have taken big leaps in their lives and careers. I'm Gretchen Whitmer, Jody Sweetie. Monica Patton. Elaine Welteroth. I'm Jessica Voss. And that's when I was like, I got to go.

I don't know how, but that kicked off the pivot of how to make the transition. Learn how to get comfortable pivoting because your life is going to be full of them. Every episode gets real about the why behind these changes and gives you the inspiration and maybe the push to make your next pivot. Listen to these women and more on She Pivots, now on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. everyone welcome dot and charity to the show can i just say that your recent posts on instagram so cute so sexy you guys are such a hot couple period thank you our anniversary one it's always straddling you yeah yeah fun wow they're young and hot we're jumping off the gate we are we are warm up okay we are that's that's that's

All right. I thought it was going to be a little bit. Like, here's where I got at the top now. Just right in. Yeah, you guys are hot and sexy. That's how we start the show. Hey, we're here today just for a few minutes to talk to you guys about the Bachelor Mansion. Because if you don't know, HGTV has announced that they're renovating the Bachelor Mansion.

And they're using past contestants to do the renovation. So the first is, have you two gotten a phone call to be a part of this show? Not yet. But listen, HGTV. got the digits that's what i'm saying i'm like i would really this sounds like a lot of fun i'm like i love that i love the concept of this that's crazy what's the purpose like once it's i think just to clean it up who the heck knows yeah it's just random like a bunch of different batch of people ideas build a house and then what i thought it was no it's the actual mansion it's like they're

literally going to work inside the mansion they get to come up with all these design ideas and then there's a cash prize um it's an it's a crazy idea. I like the idea of the show. I'll watch the show because the mansion is like one of the most favorable moments from the whole experience for me. Yeah. It's like a home. It's truly a second home. Especially for you charity, you know, you lived in it twice. I did. Yeah. So off the top of your head, what do you see that they should renovate? Do they tackle first? I mean, I this is like pretty basic, but I hate like the wallpaper and everything. And I don't know if it changes because it like production or if it's like that like you know when we're not filming there but i think the

color scheme like everything needs to like start over it's horrible in my opinion she doesn't like she doesn't like the mediterranean so the color scheme is interesting because i think one secret that a lot of people out there don't know is every season they come in repaint and redecorate so every season they and then they'll paint it back to what the homeowners want afterwards So you've got to think after how many seasons that have been filmed in that show, how thick the walls have to be with... Yeah, that's what I was saying. I was like that sounds like it's a whole...

Yeah. Yeah, the square footage of the house has shrunk because the walls are like this thick. It's just pain. There's less volume. Yeah, a lot less. Now, I have a huge question because we've talked to Rachel Recky. We talked to Guy here recently. They both brought up the bunk beds.

Don, you're not a short man. I need to know what they did for you Because you have to be probably the tallest contestant To ever be on the show I can't think of anybody taller I really don't understand how you slept in that house Me neither your feet hung off Like I feel like your ankles hung off

Correct that's why it's still an ongoing lawsuit I will now It's still an ongoing lawsuit Because of what they put me through It's crazy That was it's not a secret great. So, like, that's not one I wanted to share, but it's what stick out to me the most in my experience there is, first of all, how small they are. They're tiny bunk beds that I slept in

when I was like six and how uncomfortable they are. They have those, like, plastic things on top that go, it's the easiest thing. And we know they can do better, but for some reason, that's what they choose and put four or ten guys in a room together. Um, not fun, especially when you have, you know, brain snoring and, um, Josh's sound machine going and it's just lost, L's on all egg. Well, and you're right, they did have, I forgot, they had those plastic coverings. And so if anybody rolled over in the room you were in,

you could hear them roll over. Did anyone fall out of bed while either of you were filming? I think, I don't know, not in my room. I was lucky to be in the room with like, where it was smaller, but there was like less girls. So it was only like four of us. I'm like, I, we left the mansion. All my roommates had already said goodbye.

So I had it. You had a room to yourself. Very nice. That is, that's good planning. Yeah. That's nice, though. Yeah. No, I don't think so for me, but. I think, I'm trying to remember.

I know someone did. I'm trying to remember. Someone did. I'm trying to remember the story, too. I don't know what season it was, but it was a thing. Yes. The guys were cracking up. It was a guy season.

Of course. That's hilarious. That's all you can hope for, truly. That's true. Yeah. In the middle of the night, a gigantic thud, like, down the very high bunk beds. Yeah, yeah, exactly. No, I need to, I need to tell.

text the guys and see who that happened to because I'm pretty sure that happened this one on our season. I'm just not remember if it was an R room or not. Now, I think this is for anybody out there. I remember in my experience, I had the bedroom up against the wall right across from the small bathroom.

There was a lot of us in there at one point. I think there was three different bunk beds, so eight people, or six people in a small little room. And I remember one of my, I'm an only child. at that point

my life I was living alone what did you say of course yeah you didn't have to just kidding actually Ben doesn't

meet any of the only child yeah I would never predict of that I know break down the earth yeah but the I remember

the guys would come in like late so right so I'm early to bed guy and they'd want to do like pillow talk and they'd be talking about like the randomest stuff

sometimes Caitlin sometimes like some dude be crying because he's sad and he's emotional or whatever and it would go on for way too long and there's no cameras up there so it was a pretty safe place to like talk but it would keep me up way later than i wanted to be do you guys remember pillow talk happening as like 27 eight-year-old people see like i don't you you did the guys yeah of course i feel like yes to some degree but i'm like i feel like they never let us like sleep and so by the time we actually were like

going to bed it was like okay like literally like lights out like everyone shut up like seriously yeah we didn't have like not in our rooms like everything like all of our conference i mean literally i probably had maybe one conversation that was in my room and there was like no cameras but then they like came and found me like 30 seconds later and i was like okay so like that did not exist for me at all interesting yeah i don't really remember that existing either but this did jog a memory of them one time waking us up at like 5.30, it was still dark, and all of us just having to do our makeup at that time, we're like, this is a huge joke. We went to bed at 1.30. No, that's the worst. And then the natural sunlight got help. Two back.

Baggy eyes. Just trying to cover your makeup. Yeah. The baggy eyes doing makeup on baggy, tired, puffy face. It's the worst. You wouldn't know, guys, but it's the worst. I might know. You might know. I think during, you know what i i've never i don't think i've ever said this you know something i brought to the bachelor mansion this is a this is so embarrassing um i brought because one of my girlfriends came and helped me pack and she was like gal pals okay i was like ex like too i know i know i know that's the same thing gal pals friends owner um a mascara brush just to comb out my eyelashes because I wanted my eyelashes to look good on, too.

That's so crazy. Ew, what? You said you were doing that every morning when you would wait for? Yeah, I was combing those things out. Yeah, I remember that now. I actually feel like you did have eyelashes that stood out. See? You had very pretty curly eyelashes.

It's hilarious. I just thought about this. That's probably like Sean and Braden bring in their, like, dicing. Just remember that? Oh, they're dicing? Like, I'm joking, but I feel like Sean had like a blow dryer. Oh, okay. brush for his hair.

You know, like, oh, I can imagine that. No, Sean actually didn't have a blow dry. That was actually a big part, a big issue in the house. He was so embarrassed before every day because he was like, he's so self-conscious about his hair and it's so hilarious. That was actually opposite what happened. Amongst all you guys didn't have one hair dryer? Yes.

I'm telling you, there were things that were happening that I couldn't believe. I didn't need one, thankfully. A few of the guys did, not a single hairdry. They had to go get one on, like, day three. It's one had to go buy one. How the hell does it not a single one in there? It's crazy. That is crazy.

And I think Sean had to buy it with his own money. With his own money. They were like, yeah, we have like a $50 cap on this. That's crazy. No, you put him bloodline in the grocery. No, for real. It was. It literally was on the grocery list.

December 29th, 1975, LaGuardia Airport. The holiday rush, parents hauling luggage, kids gripping their new Christmas toys. Then, at 6.33 p.m., everything changed. There's been a bombing at the TWA terminal. Apparently, the explosion actually impelled metal, glass. The injured were being loaded into ambulances, just a chaotic, chaotic scene. In its wake, a new kind of enemy emerged, and it was here to stay. Terrorism.

Law and Order Criminal Justice System is back. In Season 2, we're turning our focus to a threat that hides in plain sight. That's harder to predict and even harder to stop. Listen to the new season of Law and Order Criminal Justice System on the IHeart Radio. app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon.

This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now hold up, isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them.

I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hello, it's Danielle Fischel. Rider Strong. And Willfordell from Podmeet's World. And we're bringing you Viva Las Content.

That's right. We are back in Las Vegas, the city of sin, and giving the people what they want. A full week of Y2K content. Wait, we're back in Vegas? Tell me, Y. Well, for the Backstreet Boys residency at Sphere, of course. We sat down with Kevin Richardson and A.J. McLean just minutes before they took the stage

and our very own Wilfredel basically became the newest member of the band. Boy band, please. Plus, the man who has the longest running comedy show on the strip joins us and gets his props. It's carrot top, baby. And finally, we all L-O-V-E-Hur, Ashley Simpson-Ross, joins us to talk about her upcoming sold-out Vegas residency. It's a full week of nostalgic interviews you don't want to miss. Listen to PodMeets World on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of the on-purpose podcast,

and today I'm joined by one of the greatest athletes of all time, Novak Djokovic. The world's number one male tennis player. He's won 14 grand slams in a glittering career. Novak Djokovic! You've been through so many injuries, losses. Oh, I always showed himself. What has Novak Djokovic done? What goes through your mind when you lose?

I just want to be left alone. What has it taken to become Novak Djokovic? It's a consistent practice. It's prayer work, mindfulness, meditation, conscious breathing. It requires more responsibility from you on a daily basis to prepare yourself for the biggest battle. When you reach your 30, you start counting your days to your retirement. I'm 38 this year. How far can I go?

How long can I push my own limits? Listen to On Purpose with Jay Chetty on the IHeart Radio Hour. Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Have you ever wished for a change but weren't sure how to make it? Maybe you felt stuck in a job, a place, or even a relationship. I'm Emily Tish Sussman, and on she pivots, I dive into the inspiring pivots of women who have taken big leaps in their lives and careers. I'm Gretchen Whitmer, Jody Sweeten. Monica Penn.

Elaine Welter-off. I'm Jessica Voss. And that's when I was like, I got to go. I don't know how, but that kicked off the pivot of how to make the transition. Learn how to get comfortable pivoting because your life is going to be full of them. Every episode gets real about the why behind these changes and gives you the inspiration and maybe the push to make your next pivot. Listen to these women and more on She Pivots now on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm even thinking back, I feel like when I was on The Bachelor app, it was March Matt.

is it March Madness that's going on at that point in time? And we did brackets, but we can't watch the games, there's no TVs. And so at the end of the day, they would give us a score update of who won and who lost,

and we could fill out of brackets based on that. It's such a fun time. Now, as we close with you guys, as you think about your favorite memories at the Bachelor Mansion, like the one thing when you think about that place, and who knows how much it's going to be renovated.

We don't know if the whole thing's going to change, if it's going to be modernized, if they're just going to paint up some stuff or whatever. But let's say the mansion changes forever. It never looks the same as when we were there. What's your favorite memory at the mansion? I think for me would have to be like, obviously there's so many, like, girl chats. But, like, my chats, I feel like I had the most meaningful ones by the pool or, like, outside. And I feel like the pool is obviously, like, one of the highlights of the house.

And so I would be, like, kind of devastated if they, like, completely, I mean, they, can't take the way the pool, but like just making it look different. I feel like it's such a memorable part of the house. Like when you walk in and obviously like, you know, night one, you're like outside, you're going to the bar, you're seeing who else is arriving. It's just like so ingrained in your memory. So like that's like for me. I feel like one of the best parts. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so they have the question is what's going to be here in another lap. The question is favorite memory or what we don't want renovated? Well, I guess favorite. I guess it could be both.

You can tie them together. Sorry, I didn't give a memory. I just said, but I don't want to renovated. You gave a memory. Yeah, I mean, one of my favorite memories, not to steal yours, but was I was really quiet for like the first week because I was hating my life. And I thought I made the worst decision of my life. And then there was this time while the guys were the pool super late. And then I decided to hop in.

And I was the first time I really expressed myself. And that's because those guys in there were all expressing himself. was like Kayla, Aaron, Tanner, and maybe one other person that was in there. But they just allowed me to open up. And that was sort of really like the first step into maybe, okay, maybe this is okay, right? Maybe I didn't, you know, sacrifice everything for nothing. So, yeah, pretty cool. I would say also, obviously, he's getting a chat with her at the barbecue.

That was the actual catalyst that really changed. And I was like, okay, like, yeah, I can stick around. I think there's something worth fighting for here. So that was really beautiful. And then maybe something inside the house is the hot waters and the air conditioner did not work while we were there. Yeah. We actually had to go to the hotel. People have no idea how old that house is and like unspectacular it is.

It's like legendary. I'm screaming. But there's really. I don't think it's that old. I think it's probably in its 20s. No, I have the same. No, you're not alone in this. I told Ashley the same thing when we started.

I was like, you understand how old. this house is like how beat up it is and you get help. Yeah. Yes. And Ashley's like, no, it's perfect. This wasn't the Bachelor Mansion that they used like the first decade of the show though. And I don't think that they built it until like 2000.

We will have to check on the building. I'm really curious to know that. But think about how much use the house has had because the family had four kids and they grew up in the house from when they were very little and then they had protect the mansion. People like the mansion.

I love the mansion, okay? I'm like, is the mansion paying you? I'm like, what is this? Have they been lobbying for me late night? Yeah, she's into this. Why are you so depressed? You, wait, okay, go back to Dodson's thing. You had to go to a hotel to shower?

We all did for a couple days. Yeah, it was hellish. We'd all have to go. But you'd have to take turns, you know, take turns and little, what do you call it, little, like, a bunches, and then go to the hotel that we stayed in before to go shower and then you have to go back. It's luxury. And for luxury,

The mansion reminds me of my parents' house. Oh, yeah. Do you understand that, Ben? I do understand that. You've been in my parents' house. We're not talking about you. I know, but that's why I probably feel so connected to the style. Actually, your parents' house is beautiful.

We don't want to change it. It's nice. No worry. Nobody's coming down. It's just old. That's all. I just need to add what I cannot have changed. It's the front.

because when you pull up in the limo and you see the iconic front with the fountain and the door No, no, no. That actually probably is the best part, you know? It's the most memorable is what people see on TV the part that we remember because that's our first interaction.

Not me saying the pool. I should have set the front door. Yeah. Hey, thanks for jumping on. Thanks for talking about the mansion. Your memories, we appreciate your time. I will still go down and say one of the most shocking parts of this whole experience

is thinking about you sleeping in a bunk bed, twin mattress that isn't really a full twin. It still shocks me, and it's not right. So good luck in the lawsuit, and we appreciate you coming on. Thank you, guys. Shout out to Morgan. Bye. See ya. It was, you know how in college you have the long twin beds?

They're different style twin bed. They're not the little kid twin bed. They're long. Do you remember in college? Yeah, these were not long. No, exactly. they were short. I actually have a memory that came off of what Charity was saying. I remember falling asleep so deeply out by the pool one day in one of those really beautiful pieces of lawn furniture they had. And sleeping hard because I was tired and waking up and looking around and like having this like, I don't know where I'm at moment. And then realizing I was on like at the mansion and I'm being like, whoa. Like, what happened?

You know what I'm talking about when you wake up and you're like, I don't know how I got here? And then you're like, it takes you a second. You're like, I'm, there's a camera thing. That doesn't happen in the mornings. That happens during naps. Yes, it happened to me. I remember. And then kind of like smiling and being like, oh, this is pretty cool.

Pretty cool. I took a nap at the Bachelor Mansion. That's awesome. This has been the second part of our conversation on the renovation, the HGTV, has announced that they're going to be doing to the Bachelor Mansion. We've brought back some past contestants to talk about their stories, experiences, what they love and don't love about the mansion. This has been a ton of fun reminiscing.

I would say this, and I think Ashley has proven it, Ashley, out of all the things that happened from your time on The Bachelor, I would say this mansion holds maybe the most special place in your heart. Wait. More than Paradise, you think? I'm talking Bachelor, like mansion, like that whole experience. I think because I was a super fan of the show that arriving to the mansion and being in a spot that I saw on TV for so many years was the coolest thing.

That was one of the very main characters to me. I agree. I'm fully with you. So I hope you had fun listening as well. Until next time, I've been Ben. I've been Ashley. See you guys. Follow the Ben and Ashley I

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