The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Is Farmer Sean's Ending Already Locked? (Farmer Wants a Wife S4 E5)

Episode Date: May 20, 2026

Things get tense this week, as confrontations on the farm take center stage! Farmer Sean gets backed into a corner and is forced to make some tough decisions.Farmer Braden is looking for deeper connec...tions, but the competition becomes too much for one of his women.And we can't help but think one of Farmer Brett's ladies reminds us of a Bachelor Nation fan favorite!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:42 Hey everybody, Bob Gennie here with super producer Heather Mundy. We are here recapping Farmer wants a wife. Season 4, episode 5, where things get greasy. I think things get a little bit good here. believe we're already on episode five? I cannot. It feels like we just started, but yeah, episode five. I know.
Starting point is 00:03:07 I'm not happy about it because I'll tell you, episode five means we're probably more than halfway to the finish line. And I have really been loving this. I've been loving this. I've been loving doing our recaps. I've been loving talking about these episodes, interviewing stars from the show. Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Potentially setting up our own reunion show recap. Yeah, Pop, just putting people on the spot to hire us and do stuff. I'm just saying, all I know is my good friend Molly Walker told me she thinks that's a great idea. So that's all I'm going to say. I'm going to say, you guys take that for what it's worth. But I think she is a very smart lady and she knows that we love this show and we love these people. I mean, I will say, I feel like talking to Carson was such great insight into what we've already been saying, that these are very sweet, very kind people that, you know, that even, even Carson, who up until this point,
Starting point is 00:04:04 the show has probably had experienced the most drama and the most tension and the most, I'm not here to make friends, you know, type of moment. And she's still very kind to the other, the other co-stars, very kind to the farmers. I just think, you know, it just says a lot about this show. I really do. It sure does. I love that you said most like drama up until this point because this episode was tense. I don't know how else to say it other than there was a lot of tension happening specifically with farmer Sean.
Starting point is 00:04:37 But I think if anything that we learned from talking to Carson is she obviously doesn't know what was said to farmer Braden. So we are obviously going to have to talk to more people from that farm to kind of figure out what was said. because she linked it back to a tension moment with a dog and a grape. Yeah, which caused tension with us. You're on our show. Which caused tension. Confusion. But I don't really connect the dots on how that could have led to her speaking
Starting point is 00:05:10 badly about farmer Braden, which got back to him. And we still don't know what that is. It sounds like she didn't know either. So we're definitely going to have to do a little bit more of an investigation into that. But this episode kicks off with Kimberly, our host, saying that the farmers must send home any ladies they are not feeling a connection with. Starting the episode out that way makes us know, girls are going home, which is crazy because we just had so many go home in the last episode. So, you know, so we start out
Starting point is 00:05:45 with farmer Sean, and he's taking the women to his family restaurant, the gathering table. and he's assigning them roles to do for a lunch service, just to see kind of, you know, how they act in his day-to-day life. And we see him, you know, he's really in his element, opening wine, talking to customers.
Starting point is 00:06:08 I didn't look too busy in that restaurant. Now, I think, I think it might have been a slower day, maybe like a Monday. It was kind of cracking me up because it was like every time they panned over to show them like looking hurried and doing stuff,
Starting point is 00:06:22 I was like, there's like two people in there. Like getting the, getting the royal treatment. They have the whole staff of girls who have never worked here. We don't see them do any training whatsoever. He's like, you're the bartender. It's like, what? Yeah, no one's like over there like cotterling. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:06:41 I also don't remember if I saw any food actually get served or come out. I feel like we saw them take orders and pour wine and pour water and see people. but I don't know if I saw any food get delivered. I wouldn't mind seeing somebody in the back of the kitchen, okay? So we're all in the front of the house. I mean, if you've ever worked in the restaurant, folks, you know the front of the house and the back of the house. Even though we're all working towards one goal,
Starting point is 00:07:05 it is a completely different world. And if you're in the back of the house, you're behind the grill, you're getting messy, you're going after it. That may have been a better test. But just saying, you know, I used to work at Benigan's guys, so I have a very high standard.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Yeah, probably couldn't get those girls near an open flame. for... Not about that hairspray. Well, I was going to say for safety reasons or something, they couldn't probably put knives in their hands or something. I don't know, guys.
Starting point is 00:07:33 I'm making this up, but I would feel like they probably just wanted them to do little things. But this is where we start to get the seed planted that the other women are feeling frustrated by how much time Emily is getting with Sean.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Now, time is such a funny phrase to use on this show because it doesn't seem like anybody's getting time. It seems like what they're really frustrated about is that kiss from last week that she did on the racetrack in the dark that was very far away that we refused to believe was ever noticeable to any of the women and that they even know about that. Right. So just call a spade a spade if you're mad that she got the kiss in. You're mad that she got the kiss in.
Starting point is 00:08:18 And so anyways, that's the seed. that gets planted at the beginning of the episode for us and really does flourish and grow throughout the episode. Man, like a bad rash. Yeah. This one is like next level and I know we'll get there, but this is the type of stuff that bugs me, right? Like in real life,
Starting point is 00:08:37 but also like when you're watching the show and it's like how this grows is like, it's potentially really damaging, right? Because he does have something really good going with Emily right now. and they obviously have great chemistry with one another, but somebody else gets in there and twist the screws a little bit and takes a conversation and goes off the rails with it and creates their own little narrative.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Can I say what I think it is? Yes. I think it's a full-blown editor-producer fake-out. I think that that is the setup for the runner-up because they want you to get, again, emotionally invested in the person that ends up not winning. And who did we see very little camera time this episode? Olivia, who I think is actually the front runner.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Olivia's been your pick. Olivia's been my pick, and there's something about their chemistry that I haven't seen between him and Emily. And I also think it's just a huge, huge spoiler for the audience. if you're like, oh, yeah, we knew he was choosing Emily based on all the girls telling us he was choosing Emily in episode five. So what am I waiting for for the buildup, right? Well, when you're watching as a viewer, you think, oh my gosh, it is Emily. It is Emily. And you forget about that connection with Olivia. And then we get to the finale and you have emotionally become invested
Starting point is 00:10:15 in Emily because you've seen her on your screen so much. So we'll see you guys if I'm right or if I'm wrong. So would you think this is a Franken edit, as we would say in the business, where they maybe took something Rihanna said in... 100%. And we will get to that scene specifically. Yeah, because I have some very... I don't want to ruin this for anybody. And again, Bob and I don't know anything about how this show ends.
Starting point is 00:10:47 We do not work for Fox. don't have insider tips. I don't have anybody that in my life that worked production on this season to even tell me stuff like that. This is purely speculation on, you know, what we're watching and just having consumed a lot of reality TV and worked on it. But we go to Farmer Braden's farm after that. And he's having the girls move big ass bags of soybean seeds. Like just take those over there, dump them over there. Yeah, just working it. Just working it.
Starting point is 00:11:22 It's, again, farmer wants a wife, or does farmer want free labor? I mean, I think it's more of the free labor stuff that he's really interested in. Right now, it's a free labor. It just cracks me up because it's like, there's farming activities that these girls could be doing that could be more of like a date than actually making them work, but whatever. I just, it's funny. And so we see Skyler is really just like, a freaking pro. She is throwing bags and all the girls are like, whoa, you're good at that. And she's like,
Starting point is 00:11:55 well, I'm a flower farmer. So blah, blah, blah. And Farmer Braden says he's also feeling a connection with Casey. That's your sleeper pick for him. That's who you think. But he then. This one. Yes. Yes. Yes. You're correct. So, but then he says that in his interview, but then he ends up pulling Cameron for a chat. And she's the like silly blonde one in his group. And he's basically like, you know, I want to see more than your silly side. Like I want to see the real you. And she opens up to him a little bit by saying, you know, she didn't have a good example of love growing up. So that's kind of why it's hard for her to show that vulnerable side.
Starting point is 00:12:40 But he, you know, appreciates that she even got that far with him. So then we go over to Farmer Sean's farm. and Rihanna, whof, she is wound up, this girl. Yes, she's wound up. She is, immediately, she goes to Emily and she confronts her. And she says, I think you're going to win.
Starting point is 00:13:03 And one of them, it's very funny. One of them says, I believe it's Emily, says, our mics are off. They're never off, guys. I want to tell you guys. I want to tell you guys. I want to tell you guys. The only time I have ever witnessed them turning off mics, only time, is when you say,
Starting point is 00:13:26 I'm going to the restroom, turn off my microphone. And again, we've all heard bathroom noises on shows at different times. That's because people didn't ask for their mics to be turned off. Yeah. So you still even have to ask for your mic to be turned off when you go to the bathroom. I don't even want to explain to people because it's too visual about what the sound engineer looks like on a set, especially with all these microphones. It's a big switchboard that they kind of have. It's not a switchboard, but it's like a big.
Starting point is 00:14:02 You're carrying it in a pouch. Yes, I was just going to say, it's a thing that they wear on straps over their chest and they have a big thing of knobs in front of them. And these guys, I've been on shows where people have jumped into the pool or whatever, their microphones on. Those guys are the first ones to go crazy. It's just like, because that microphone is dead, you know? Um, so, you know what I used to do when I wanted my microphone off? Tell me. I unplugged it. Nope to future reality contestants. Or that. If you ever want your mic off, unplug it. It's so easy. But if you want, but if you unplug your mic and you're talking to somebody miced, you're still S.O.L. Reaching their bra, unhooked their, I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 00:14:49 because we've all seen that trick. It's a way to really show that you're interested, you know. Yeah, exactly. We've all seen that trick too on reality TV where somebody says, pulls off the mic pack, says, I'm done, I'm not doing it. And then what do they do? They send a producer in there to talk, but they don't realize that the producer is miced
Starting point is 00:15:09 and they're going to use the producer's audio. So there's a lot of tricks. But when those girls, one of them said our mics are off, I wanted to be like, oh, poor things. It's absolutely not off. And so, in fact, at home, I just turned it up, you know.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Exactly. So they shoot them in a very strange way. The cameras are all very shaky, shaky when they're doing that, which I think is just a big show. Because I'll say this, Emily just was sitting by herself at a table. And then all the other girls were sitting around a bonfire about 10 feet away.
Starting point is 00:15:46 Within an eye distance to be. able to be like, oh, look, they're talking over there. I wonder what you're talking about. Is Sean going over there? Sean's going over there. It was a little, a little too on the nose for me. But what I noticed about this conversation is the shakiness of the camera allows us to hear very clear audio, but we're not getting a whole lot of nice close-up shots of people's
Starting point is 00:16:17 mouths people. And when you don't see the mouth moving, it means it wasn't said in that moment. So it doesn't mean it wasn't said, but it wasn't said in that conversation. Because if you have camera coverage on a conversation that is happening, you're showing it. When you're cutting to a shot of somebody staring at somebody else and you're hearing the other person talk off camera, that's because that conversation didn't happen that way. And so, So we're overhearing, you know, Emily saying that she's not sure that she's winning this competition. And she kind of keeps reassuring Rihanna saying like, I don't, I don't think that, you know, I think we have a connection. But who knows, like who's going to end up in the end?
Starting point is 00:17:03 She even says she's like, I feel like all the girls have a different type of connection with him. And I think, I think that says a lot. I mean, I really do think Emily is very, seems very sweet. And I, it's, this is like a bummer of a moment when it gets turned into this thing where Rihanna comes back and says, you know, oh, well, Emily just told me that, you know, he's told her she's going to be winning that. Well, actually, she doesn't say that. She says, Emily tells me she thinks she's winning. And then it turns into like a really bad game of telephone because next thing you know, Macy's like, apparently Sean told her she's winning. Yeah. And I remember a period of time from the Bachelor era where people would be like winning. Like that was almost like winning. Like it's a competition. We're here to find love. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:50 It is a competition, guys. It is a contest. It's a dating game show. It's a dating game shows. Yeah. If you want to get really specific. Yeah, no, you're right. It is a bad game of telephone.
Starting point is 00:18:04 And it made me think, I don't know, go with me here for a second. All right. The Carson conversation that ultimately led to her demise happened off camera. Yeah. We didn't get any sort of follow up. We didn't get any, you know, anything but breadcrumbs. We never knew what was said. Da da da da da da.
Starting point is 00:18:25 This made me feel like another conversation happened off camera and producers were like, no, we need to, we need to recreate. We need to make this happen again. And so it felt very pointed. You know what I mean? like the fact that Rihanna went in there with like a very clear motive made me almost feel like we've been here before like we've had this like you actually did tell me this like when cameras weren't rolling so now you're going to tell me again yeah that's that's what it was kind of giving me it was kind of giving like maybe we were having pillow talk the other night as girls and
Starting point is 00:19:11 you said well he kind of already told me that I'm going to the finals, you know? Yeah. And not thinking, again, not thinking cameras aren't around, this isn't going to ever come back and bite me. That's just a theory I have. I also think that this could just be a completely fabricated moment to stir up drama. And a producer may be chirped in Rianna's ear and got her hyped up because, oh, she keeps getting
Starting point is 00:19:42 hyped up, even all the way up until her. exit on this episode. So, Sean comes up and he kind of interrupts the conversation and Rianna leaves right away, which I thought was interesting.
Starting point is 00:19:54 And she immediately goes, you know, to the women. And like you said, basically says that it's already been decided is the word that she uses. Already decided.
Starting point is 00:20:05 And Macy feels very hurt by this. So then we bounce over to Farmer Brett's farm. maybe the best farm in the group in the group the farm where you'd like to spend your days
Starting point is 00:20:20 oh I don't know if I want to spend my days plowing the fields but you know what I would want watching that man shop wood I could I I reposted a video of him
Starting point is 00:20:33 chopping wood it was a clip and I said I said why is this video an hour long because I'm just it's why is it on repeat on my phone. So weird how that happened.
Starting point is 00:20:46 Farmer Brett. So he's down already to his final three women. He's got Quinn. He's got Hannah and he's got Sophia. And so, you know, he pulls Sophia for a chat and she asks kind of where his head's at. And she says she likes his cabin because it reminds her of camping when she was a kid. And she goes on and on in her one-on-one interview with a producer after basically saying that her and Farmer Brett, you know, she feels something like that they have the same morals and values and all this stuff. And I'm thinking, well, we didn't see any of that. No. Very superficial conversation. I just would rather her be like, dude's hot.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Mustache is hot. I'm here for that, you know, and just see. But anyways, I don't know. I'm sorry. Sophia, I said it last week. Like, you're not final two. You don't think she's a final. You think it's going to be Hannah and Quinn. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:50 It's Hannah and Quinn. And I can't tell which one they're getting me more emotionally invested in to break my heart over because I genuinely like both of them. Actually, no. Actually, no, I do have it. I will get to it, but I do know who the front runner is. I do. After watching this, I do know. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:10 So then Farmer Braden's Farm, he pulls Cassie for a chat, your girl. Yeah. I think it's Casey. I think this is Casey. Shoot. Sorry, guys.
Starting point is 00:22:24 Casey, Cassie, there's so many. There's another Carson. Cameron. It's like there's a lot going on on the cast of the women. And I noted he has his hand on her. me while they're talking. And that is a really good sign, Bob, for you that you've got a winner there because I really think that because these men are much more action over words kind of guys for the
Starting point is 00:22:53 most part. Mine is Farmer Sean because he really loves to use words and kiss. I would say that the body language, it really is a telling sign, I think, for Farmer Braden and farmer brett. So I think that you're on to something with those two because he also says that she makes him nervous and he wants to reassure her that, you know, he's happy that she's there and they haven't gotten a date yet, but that's like he's still like, I'm into you. I'm into you. Which is interesting to me too when he says that because I guess because I've been thinking that she's my front runner this whole time because of just
Starting point is 00:23:33 their little interactions. I kind of forgot they hadn't had a date. Do you know what I mean? I was kind of crazy. I know. There's a couple of them where I was like, you haven't taken that girl on a date yet? Like you really like her though.
Starting point is 00:23:46 I can tell. So they're looking really cute and she says that she's kind of like got a crush on him. So that's cute. And then we go back to the drama drama at Sean's farm and he can tell that there's tension. with the women and he asks, do any of you want to bring anything up?
Starting point is 00:24:07 And Macy's like, yeah, me. I'm in. Yeah, let's go. Let's go. And it's like, this has got to be like the fifth time Macy has pulled him for a chat, at least. And she tells him,
Starting point is 00:24:19 you know, she's heard about the Emily thing and that she's the final pick. And Sean is like, well, his version and her version of events is that Emily's told us all. Yeah. that she's your final pick.
Starting point is 00:24:32 It's like, you haven't talked to Emily yet. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. I'm talking about the bad game of telephone where it just gets me to the point where I'm like, oh my God.
Starting point is 00:24:41 So confident though, not even asking him in a question. Who's your final? Do you have your mind made up? It's like, I already know that Emily is in your final. Like, we already know this. We all know this already.
Starting point is 00:24:54 She's just very straightforward about it. And, you know, he basically is like, like, I've not made up my mind. And I kind of don't like that you don't trust me in like what I'm saying. And she's just like, yeah, I can't stay. And she's got to go. And so she leaves and she's kind of emotional. And he's like a little caught off guard by her being like, yeah, deuses. Like, I'm done. Well, you know, part of it too, I think at this point is it is interesting because Macy has been
Starting point is 00:25:31 and she's adorable but she has been challenged on this show staying this long has been a huge accomplishment not because the guy's not into her but because she's just her mind is just taking her places
Starting point is 00:25:47 that it doesn't work I say this with love and affection you are an anxious attachment and I say that from speaking of experience and I want you and I to become more secure in this journey and have a secure attachment style and yeah I really was it was hurting my soul to kind of watch you keep spiraling over different things so I think it takes a lot of courage to be like yeah no I'm done like this isn't for me bye bye it was a good moment for her because she kind of re she took back control of her her
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Starting point is 00:30:01 available on the I-Hart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So then we're back on Farmer Bread's Farm. Yeah. And he pulls Quinn to go on a walk, and he says, he's like, rambling a little, and then he goes, I really like you.
Starting point is 00:30:27 And I was like, oh, my God, oh, my God. Just so cute. Were you kind of like, were you thinking of yourself in that moment? Yeah, I was looking at Quinn being like, that could be me. No, Farmer Brett is too. I really like you too, Brett. I mean, sorry, I'm trying to take notes. Farmer Brett is too young for me, but he is very handsome.
Starting point is 00:30:49 And I really do love his moments and glimmers we get of his silly side. And they are so, I don't want to say they're few and far between, but they, they're not consistent. like we're getting them every, you know, every time we go over to his farm. And so when I do get them, I think that they're so funny because it gives him dimension to me. And I will say that not all the farmers
Starting point is 00:31:19 give me dimension like he does. And so what I wrote here is that I'm looking at Quinn and I'm like, who does she remind me of? Who do you think before I say it out loud? Hold on, hold on. let me pull it up. I'm going to give you a huge clue. It's somebody from Bachelor Nation.
Starting point is 00:31:39 Okay. Is it Dean and... Oh, Kailen? Kailen? No. Is it Kailen? No. Oh, it's Caitlin, uh, what's her face?
Starting point is 00:31:50 Thank you. It's Caitlin Bristow. It's so, like, clicked for me when I'm watching it. I'm like, why is she so stinking cute? And then I'm like, oh my God, her teeth kind of remind me of Caitlin. her smile reminds me of Caitlin. I all of a sudden, glance back at her and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:32:08 oh my God, that's Caitlin. Isn't that crazy? I was literally watching and I'm like, you're, and she's goofy as hell like Caitlin too, which I actually love. And I've said this before.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Caitlin is my favorite bachelorette of all time. Like absolutely love Caitlin Buristo. So maybe that's why I have a real soft spot for Quinn and like what's happening here. But they basically. basically talk about that they have like their love for intense eye contact and he tells her, you know, he really likes her and he's excited about her and it just took him a while to show it and then they hug. And this was the moment where I went, oh, Hannah's winning. And I like Hannah a lot too. I tell, I'm telling you, I like them both. I would say pretty much equally.
Starting point is 00:33:01 And I knew in that moment, this is, this is me, just making a hunch. Yeah. No kissy, no whinny. And so he has kissed him. And that kiss was so like intentional. And he's already said previously on the show that he wasn't going to go around kissing everybody. And it's very much giving me. Which is what I said on my show too, by the way, when I was the bachelor.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Oh, sure. You did? I did say that. You said it. Doesn't mean I did it. Okay. But I did it. Yes. But I did say that.
Starting point is 00:33:37 And I think it's just giving me Farmer Matt from last season who literally only kissed his winner. And he waited until the freaking end of the season. I was like, at least Farmer Brett is giving it to me episode. He gave it to me episode four. Wait, what are we talking about exactly? What did he give to you? So here's the one to say to Hannah.
Starting point is 00:33:58 I think Hannah and Quinn are both super cute. Actually, all the girls, all the girls are very cute on this show. And so it's like there's not a, you know, I mean, like I said, I think the casting team did a great job finding some really interesting women who are also very attractive and these great guys. But yeah, Hannah and Brett, I think definitely have a connection that, you know, it's not as, it seems like it's light years ahead of everyone else he sits down with now, to me.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Light years. I'll agree. agree to that to a certain extent. I don't think I've seen him laugh with Hannah the way he laughs with Quinn. Yeah. Who do you more identify with? Are you more of a blonde Hannah or are you more of a blonde Quinn? Because I look at you and I'm thinking you feel like you're you really are relating to Quinn. You've seen yourself like when he leaned in for that hug, you were like seeing what like what you would do in that moment. I like
Starting point is 00:35:00 silly, but I also like a girl that is willing to crack the shell. And I feel like Quinn is kind of like cracking the shell a little bit. Like using this as an opportunity
Starting point is 00:35:16 to crack the shell where Hannah's like he'll open up to me like when he wants to kind of thing. And Quinn's just like kind of like getting in there. I don't know. I don't know if I Like the effort. Yeah. I don't know if I personally relate to either of them because they're probably way more extroverted than I would ever be IRL when it comes to dating.
Starting point is 00:35:40 So I don't know. If I don't, I want to stop talking about me and Farmer Brett because he has actually DMed and I know he's listening and this is now making me uncomfy to talk about him like this. I love it. So now it's dinner time at the farms And farmer Brett says to all of his women You know if they'd like to stay and they all say yes Sophia you should have raised your hand and said I think I should go because I feel like
Starting point is 00:36:08 I'm beyond man out What are you going to do if Sophia ends up you know Brett's choice? She is not I'm sorry you are a gorgeous girl You are not and I will even get into it at the very end Like one of the last scenes where I'm like She's like out in the side and the other two are like together.
Starting point is 00:36:27 So anyway, so they all say they want to stay, so nobody goes home. And then we go to Farmer Bradens and he pulls Skyler for a chat. And this chat is weird. It's very tense. Again, we said this at the top of this, that this episode was tense.
Starting point is 00:36:45 And so basically, he says to her, like, I need you to kind of like open up to me because we connect on the farmer thing, but like I want to know you on a different level. And she's like, oh, you kind of need to reassure me that I'm not going home. In that moment, I was kind of like, did I just hear that right?
Starting point is 00:37:07 I actually rewound it a little bit and watched it again. And I was like, wow, you, and he, this hits him. Like, oh, he can't even. I mean, yeah. I wanted to be like, hey, babe, Skyler, you're not the lead. On the show. Farmer. Farmer wants a wife. So he wants you to open up.
Starting point is 00:37:31 This is his journey. And it's your journey to you. I've said this to a certain extent. But like, we already know his backstory. He's been talking about himself for five episodes. You're new here. We don't know you. Well, and you're super new here.
Starting point is 00:37:49 That's what I mean. Super new. You just got to the farm. yesterday. So you kind of need to open up if you want to stand out amongst the women. Like I don't think she was like fully understanding what this experience was. She didn't understand the assignment. It was so weird to be like, well, you need to tell me. And maybe it wasn't even like you need to tell me that I'm staying. It was more so like, tell me you like me. Tell me you think I'm hot. Tell me something. You know what I mean is like kind of what I felt she was fishing for?
Starting point is 00:38:22 and I'll give it to her. We've said this. These guys are stoic. They're a little hard to read on the surface. And so that's why the body language stuff to me tends to speak more because they're not giving all that like, you're fantastic, unless you're, unless you're farmer Sean, who is just really putting it out there, I think. He's macking on all the chicks. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:38:50 So it got really uncomfortable for me when Braden was like, you got anything else for me? Yeah. I thought that was really, that was an interesting response, you know, because if the next scene didn't happen, which it does, right? Yeah. Where they go back inside, sit down with everyone. And he is just like replaying that conversation in his head. And you can see it. Like, I don't even think that was an editing trick.
Starting point is 00:39:17 I think that was like legit what happened. He went back in there and he was so detached from the conversation, even though they sort of showed it, right? They did the whole kind of like almost like it was like a conversation with two soup cans with the string between him. It's like, mar, rum, right. You know, it was like they were doing that thing. But I felt like it was legit where he was at because he was so not there.
Starting point is 00:39:37 And good on the producers or the editors for seeing that. And then he literally is like, Skyler, can we have another talk? And it was interesting because the women that were left were like, she gets another talk? Little do they know. that it's like, this is the kiss of death. But then it was the blonde from earlier in the episode that he told to open up who was like,
Starting point is 00:39:59 girl, she's going for a second chat because she's getting the axe. Like she's new. Yeah, exactly. This is not happening. But I will say, Skyler says, maybe she's not ready for a situation like this. I think you hit the nail on the head with that one.
Starting point is 00:40:15 Yeah. And so they say goodbye. And I'm honestly, I was a little surprised because they had that farming connection and it's like that's the kind of girl, right? Who can like just adapt to this lifestyle so easily.
Starting point is 00:40:36 And it was just, I think it was the competition of it all. It's like, you know, a lot of the time these women have never, had to compete for a man's attention or affection. And that's because they're all beautiful. And that's just not the world that hot people operate in where they, you know, speaking from experience, you're absolutely right.
Starting point is 00:41:06 I'm actually speaking from non-experience that this is just how they move and navigate through life. And look, truth be told, no matter who you are. It doesn't matter. If you're, you know, a college potato who's never gone on a date or someone who's considered to be, you know, Miss Texas or beautiful, whatever. It's like, this is an unnatural situation for everyone. I mean, it doesn't, it's not a natural situation too. And I mean, I used to jokingly say it all the time. I get, you know, I'll never forget, Trista coming home one night when she's on a date with, you know, five guys and I'm back at the house with the other 10 leading a frat party rager and she's mad. And I'll never forget it.
Starting point is 00:41:48 And she's like, you know, what's going on? I'm like, what am I supposed to cry? Because you're on a, you know, you're on a date with five of my new best friends. I'm sitting here with my other new 10 other best friends who are all dating you. Like, we're having fun. Okay. But it's like you got to be wired for that. And I thankfully was.
Starting point is 00:42:03 I mean, it was like, I had this thing where it was like, okay, I'm not with it right now. I'm just going to do this. And I wasn't thinking about it, you know, even though the producers will desperately wanted me to think about it. I'm like, no, I'm really good at detaching. That's so alpha male. And if we go back to attachment styles, that is such a secure attachment style being like explained of being like, I'm confident in who I am. Like that's me.
Starting point is 00:42:29 We all strive to be a bob guinea attachment style in a relationship. I know I do. Oh, man, I don't know about that. I don't even know that I strive to be a me in these moments. So then we go back to, dun dun, dun, farmer Sean's farm. and this is, you know, it kind of starts to, I mean, we're really reaching the crescendo of this whole thing. And so he wants to call it a night and he asks if the women have anything to say.
Starting point is 00:43:02 And Rihanna is like, yeah, me. And she pulls him for a chat. And she wants to get a gauge on him. And she's very direct in this moment. There is no tiptoeing around her. delivery or how she is speaking to him, it is very much feeling like an interrogation in this moment. Yeah. Yeah. And he doesn't like it. He doesn't like it because he's an alpha male. And these are all alpha males. And yeah. And they're on a way. Different types of alphas. Different types of
Starting point is 00:43:34 alphas. But again, it's farmer wants a wife. So it's his, he's calling the shots unless you want to leave, which is when all these girls leave. And so he says that, you know, he can recognize that she's really dedicated to becoming a doctor. And for him, he's in that phase where he's ready to start a family and settle down. And he's got to follow his gut. And he says, you know, I think this is goodbye. And she says that she appreciates his honesty, but. Here it comes.
Starting point is 00:44:08 She lets them have it. When there's a butt coming in. Yeah. she knows her future husband will be so proud of her and how passionate she is about medicine. She says she doesn't feel a connection with him. Ooh, got to twist that knife. Got to twist it. You know, this is what you just said.
Starting point is 00:44:25 He's an alpha male. And I was like, and she's an alpha female. That's why these shows are so great when you have a moment like this because she's, she's now realizing she's going home. Right. And so she's going to get in her two cents also. So she's realizing.
Starting point is 00:44:39 Her head is held tie. She's realizing he beat her to it is what she's realizing. She was going to tell him I'm out. She was going to tell him she was out and he got there first. So true. And she's like, well, let me just twist a little bit before I get out. You can't fire me because I quit. That's what this was.
Starting point is 00:44:55 That's what this was. Bob, that's exactly what this is. That's exactly what this is. She says, I don't feel a connection with you anyways. And she knows he is not her person. And she knows he will be a great father someday. Okay. It's a little bit of a little bit of a soft in the blow. Soften the blow. I'm going to compliment a little bit. And then she says in her interview,
Starting point is 00:45:17 it's obvious Sean was looking for a stay at home wife. And that's not who she is. I'm going to say it's not obvious Sean is looking for a stay at home wife. And I'm going to say that because I actually met his mom. And these are working people. They have a restaurant. They have a business. So I think that's actually a really unfair label to put on farmer Sean. I think that he comes from really hardworking parents. And who put family first, though, as much as they work, I got a very strong sense of family from not only speaking to them, but also his brother who was there that day at the farm.
Starting point is 00:45:59 And so I think, Rihanna, I think you're actually wrong in that statement. But that's okay. You really went out on a high horse. So this is a podcast about video games. Kind of. It's also about friendship. Definitely. And chaos.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Unavoidably. Welcome to It's Dangerous to Go Alone. A podcast where we talk games, culture, nostalgia, and immediately go off topic. There is no gatekeeping. There is no skill check. If you win a game on Easy Mode, we support you. If you've never touched a controller, honestly, same energy for some of us. It's fun.
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Starting point is 00:47:22 We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, Hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guide. Not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Jim Gaffigan to Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman, help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. The worst singer in the group?
Starting point is 00:48:05 The worst? Yeah. Me. Is there anything to the idea that because you're from Harvard, uh, You only got in because your parents made a huge donation. The group. The yard birds, right?
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Starting point is 00:49:25 Hey, cream. Cream a chicken suit. This is Help from a Hypocrite, the worst advice from the dumbest people you know. Listen to Help from Hypocrat as part of the Mike Coutura podcast network available on the I-Hart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts. As they're saying goodbye, Sean,
Starting point is 00:49:49 again, as the gentleman he is, apologizes. And he says, you know, if he's hurt her, he's sorry about that. And to which she says, you couldn't hurt me if you tried. Woof. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:50:05 Not nice. Not nice. I can see it if they were contentious and he was like even remotely taken shots at her, you know, somehow some way for her to fire back like that. But what we've seen anyways has been nothing but him being kind. And I feel like that was just sort of one of those prideful things you say to someone where later you go home and you're like, I shouldn't have
Starting point is 00:50:30 said that. 100% that was the ego talking in the moment. So yeah, didn't feel like that was a great exit. And then we see her talking to producers again in her OTF. and they ask her if she wants to clear the air about what has and hasn't been said to her. And she says, no, she does not want to talk about other people. That is not her character. Okay, Rihanna. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:03 You were just a little too intense for me. You were intense in your way to get yourself on the farm, which we totally respected. But I think you could have. have gone out in a different way. And I want to say, a little more graceful. A little bit more graceful. And I want to say that this exit actually isn't indicative of your personality.
Starting point is 00:51:25 I think that you do carry yourself with grace probably in the day to day world. But in this one, you were like, hell no. And I'm a strong-ass woman. And I think that you can be a strong-ass woman without having to just like give a little dig, twist the knife a little bit on. the exit out. So was the huge fan of that. And I think, you know, Farmer Sean really got it handed to him that episode with Macy exiting and then that Rihanna exit. So the next day. I actually worry about, I worry about this too, though. I worry about Rihanna exiting in this way because now the only person that could, not that she needs it, but the only person that could back up Emily saying,
Starting point is 00:52:08 I never said anything like that. And if Rihanna were still there, you could have them both in a room and talk about it, right? Which would be nice. Again, we're not even, these are moments we're not seeing. We're not hearing. You know, we're going to have to deal a little bit more
Starting point is 00:52:24 investigating between, you know, Bachelor Bob and producer Heather when we talk to more of these people because it's, stuff is ending up on the cutting room floor. Yeah. But the next day, Sean pulls Emily for a chat
Starting point is 00:52:38 to like confront her about kind of these rumors that are swirling. and she says that she's feeling good about their connection, but she's pretty much unsure of what she said and how the women could have heard or misinterpreted something she said to claiming that she was going to be the final choice. And in interview, she says she knows Rihanna was the culprit of this whole thing spewing.
Starting point is 00:53:04 And, you know, she tells Sean she thinks that she could be there in the end, but she knows that things aren't final, and she wants to focus on their connection. And Farmer Sean is totally fine with this explanation. I thought she handled this well. I mean, you know, from the standpoint of being confronted with something that you didn't say. Yeah. And also realizing, you know, thou doth protest too much, right?
Starting point is 00:53:27 She could have been, you know, completely aghast, right? But instead she's like, you know, I want to be there in the end. But I understand that, you know, I thought the way she handled it was really good, really a classy way to handle it. and she could have thrown someone under the bus, but she didn't to him. And she's just like, listen, I, you know, I want to be here in the end. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:53:50 I felt like it was, and I liked that he believed her right away, or at least we think he does from what I can tell. And that says, I think, a lot about their relationship too. Yeah, agree. Back on Farmer Brett's farm, he teaches the ladies how to use Alaska.
Starting point is 00:54:08 I think we missed an opportune. time for the women to last so him. I would have maybe suggested that if I had been set that day. Yes, yes. Yes, you would have been like, let me show you how you do it, ladies. Let me show you. Farmer Brett showed me this one and then you do the whole pull in towards you. Kind of move.
Starting point is 00:54:26 All the way in and maybe a little tie yourself together. Maybe a little kiss could have happened. But anyways, they keep it a little more G-rated. And Farmer Brett, you know, rides around on this little tractor truck. thing and he pulls a fake bull on the back for them to try and land, which none of them are very good at. And then they switch positions. And Quinn drives and, you know, is like telling him, uh, she's going to like haul ass past him and see if he can like catch this fake bull to which he does. And she goes, that was hot.
Starting point is 00:55:04 To which price. Yeah, I bet it was. And I wrote, he's not wrong. I did rewind that scene a couple of times. Again, why is this scene 20 minutes long? Only on your television. Only on my TV. Because I thought it was so funny.
Starting point is 00:55:24 I just love his little quick delivery back of, I bet it was. No. They have a really cute relationship. They do. That's what I'm talking about. Like the humor and seeing that silly side is really funny. to me, I don't know, you guys chime in it that are watching if you are equally enthralled by Farmer Brett's funny side like I am. Back on Sean's farm, Carson hasn't had anyone on one time with him.
Starting point is 00:55:54 So she's taking matters into her own hands and basically creating a little smores date in front of the fire. And that's not a kissing one. She's not going to kiss him. Oh, she says I'm not going to kiss him if he goes in for a kiss. And then it's like, don't play this back if we do end up kissing. Right, right. Okay, let's hope that one doesn't make the edit. Not too late.
Starting point is 00:56:17 And if I'm paying attention enough, I think that that was done in the barn where the girls were staying, that little fireplace. Yeah. So he comes in and he says, you know, he wants to have a deep conversation. And, you know, he asks if she was the final girl, where would they go from there? And she says she's go with the flow and her job allows her to be flexible. And he says, you know, she had, and he says she was high on his list from the beginning because she likes to travel and go to national parks. And she, I really actually liked this answer. She's like, yeah, that's great.
Starting point is 00:56:58 But nobody's 100% compatible. Like I like doing those things. But like, basically, that's not all me. Like, don't take me. What I read is don't take me as I'm a granola bar chick. Like I like to do other things than go to national parks, but I'm down to do that sometimes. And she really is adamant in saying, you know, that couples don't all have to like the same things. And I really admire her saying that because that's, I live by that same philosophy.
Starting point is 00:57:30 I don't want to date me. Like, I mean, if I'm. I mean, in all honesty, those differences. are kind of amazing. It is. And that's how you grow and that's how you evolve as a couple.
Starting point is 00:57:42 And that's how you also find things that you as a couple like together. That could be completely individual, like something that you would have never discovered on your own or from the other person.
Starting point is 00:57:54 You know, so that's the fun part. If there is a fun part about dating, that would be it. He says Carson is very funny. And she says that that is the nicest compliment he could ever give her.
Starting point is 00:58:10 I also liked that answer. So clearly the humor, the riffing is very high up on her list of, you know, finding a connection. We hear this all the time on dating shows now. When we ask people what their likes are, people say good banter. Yeah. As like a thing that they're looking for in a partner. So obviously, Sean, hearing that he's just given the best compliment ever, goes in for a kiss.
Starting point is 00:58:45 And not just a kiss, not like what we've seen. I feel like this might be the most passionate embrace of the season. It's pretty passionate. There's no hat in sight, people. So we're seeing lip-lip action from different angles. And then when she walks into the door, there's another kiss. So obviously producers are like, hey, remember when you said you weren't going to kiss him?
Starting point is 00:59:11 And she's like, ah, don't tell me that. Don't tell me that. It's like you never say that on a dating show because that will for sure come back and we will use that footage of you. So anyways, that's the episode. We see a preview for next week. We see all the women reading something
Starting point is 00:59:30 and being super shocked. We see a shot of Sean taking his shirt off again. again. And I told you that Sean does regret how much he took his shirt off on the show because the other farmers did not give into that same pressure. The women will, we find out the women will all write down a date idea and the farmers will have to pick
Starting point is 00:59:54 one not knowing who wrote down the idea. That's a cool idea. That is kind of cool. This is also kind of cool. We see Farmer Brett getting blindfolded. the smile on your face just now i swear to god is i'm teasing i'm teasing it's just funny it's just funny and then someone doing tantric yoga and then that was a date idea that clearly is going to be clearly um we see farmer braden having whipped cream put into his mouth and we see the farmers
Starting point is 01:00:32 have to decide who will be their final two and sean saying he could potentially be sending home the wrong girl. Dun, dun, so it looks like next week's the jam-packed week. Maybe a little lighter than this. This was really tense. So maybe...
Starting point is 01:00:50 Until the end. Until the end. Until the end. I think the end is going to be pretty stressful. Yeah. So anyways, that's the episode. We love hearing your guys' feedback
Starting point is 01:01:01 and what you're thinking of this season. So please send us a DM. Leave us a comment. who's your favorite farmer. We want to hear what you think about our interview with Carson. Oh, yes. Tell us what your thoughts are on Carson. Who else you would like to hear from this season?
Starting point is 01:01:17 I've got some ideas, you know, on who we should talk to next. But until then, this has been a little bit famous. Yes. We've been having some fun. I've been Bob Guinea and she is super producer, Heather Mundy. Thanks, Bob. See you later. Hey, guys.
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