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Welcome to Dirty Rush, The Truth About Sorority Life with your host, me, Gia Judice, Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Fessler.
Welcome back to another episode of Dirty Rush.
I'm Daisy Kent and today I'm here and joined by Trista Sutter and Megan King. Thank you guys for joining me today.
Thanks for having us. Yeah. So today we're going to be breaking down all of the abundant and sometimes controversial advice about rush circulating on the internet. And we're really going to debunk the advice that is BS versus Bible and tell you what you really need to know to have a successful rush. So to start. To start,
Start off, where did you both go to school?
I went to Ole Miss.
Adi, Tadi.
Oh, my gosh, fun.
One of my best friends from Vegas, she went to Ole Miss.
It's a, it was a cultural shock for me, but it was every bit of college I could have ever
wanted it, and then some.
Yeah.
And then where did you go, Trista?
I went to Indiana, go Hoosiers.
Oh, I did know that.
Yes, with, not with Ben, but.
Ben also went there way after me.
And I was an Alpha Chi.
Oh my gosh, cool.
And what?
You were an Alpha Chi.
And Megan, did you say what you were in?
No, I was a Kappa Kappa Kappa Gamma.
Okay.
Cool.
What's the phrase that goes, was it in a movie or something?
Like, Kappa Gappa Gamma, can I, or is it?
Yeah.
There's like, there's a several.
There's like, I'm so happy that I am a Kappa Kappa Kappa Kappa Kappa Kappa Kappa.
And there's some bad ones that we don't need to say.
But that was the, I think that's, is that one you're talking about?
Something like that, like Capagamacama, can I help you, help you help you?
Or so, I can't remember what it was, but every time I hear someone say capa,
capa, capagama, it's like on the tip of my tongue, like remembering something for me,
but I can't place it.
Yeah.
It is so funny, all like the different sayings that like different sororities have.
Yes, totally.
It's so funny.
And then Trista, your daughter, Blake'sley, is she planning on going through recruitment?
I don't actually know.
Yeah.
It will depend on where she goes.
But at this point, she's thinking of California and SDSU is right up there, which I would love for her to follow in your footstep.
I loved SDSU.
I mean, right.
And then USDA is probably her top.
And I just, I think it'll just depend on the school.
Yeah.
Thor's sister also went to USDA.
So if she, Thor, my fiancee sister.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
And she's only a year older than us or then she's only a year older than me and Thor.
So if she wants to talk to her too, she's so nice.
I would totally talk to her also.
Thank you.
I will let her know.
Of course, she'd be all about talking to Daisy.
But she loves you so much.
So yeah.
She's so sweet.
And then Megan, I saw that.
Is it true that you dropped out of your sorority?
Yes.
And I did not want to.
I mean, like you were saying, Trista, kind of depends on the school, like whether or not
you rushed.
And Ole Miss has a huge Greek life.
And it's a big part of, I wanted it to be a big part of my experience at Ole Miss.
And so that was definitely a school.
I wanted to rush if I went to and I did.
So anyways, I come a cap of capa, capa, gamma.
I went to an all-girl high school.
By the way, Trista, you grew up in St. Louis.
I grew up in St. Louis.
Stop.
Where?
No way.
I grew up in Crestwood and I went to Naring's Hall for high school.
Oh my gosh.
How funny?
I know.
Daisy, it's a thing in St. Louis that any time you like meet someone who is from St.
Louis, you have to ask where they went to high school.
Like, it's a thing.
Really?
It's definitely a thing.
But it's also really.
relevant to the story and I'll tell you why. Because I went to Narragans Hall, which is an all-girl
Catholic high school. Again, like a very normal thing in St. Louis. So for me going in my freshman year,
it was normal for us to like bring girls to dances like from other schools or whatever, like go to
other girls school dances with them. And so same thing. I just like applied that same thing to
a sorority. And I went to a dance with my girlfriend. And the president. The president,
was like, you cannot go to this stance. You are a woman. Our insurance doesn't cover women.
I'm like, that's literally not how insurance works. I'm 18. Right. And she's like, you can, this is private
property. You need to leave right now unless you tell me you're not a lesbian. And I'm like,
so, so I'm like, that's not your business. I'm not telling you that. I was so upset. They were like,
this was supposed to call in the police. So I left. I went home back to.
my door, I'm crying. A couple days passed, I have to go to standards at Kappa Kappa Kama.
And that's basically the principal's office. And they said to me, I need to write an apology note
to the president of that sorority. And I was like, okay, I can say like I'm sorry for offending
her, I guess, but like I'm not sorry for what I did. And the follow, so I did that. And then the
following chapter meeting we had, Kappa made an announcement that we were not allowed to bring
any girls to dances ever under any circumstances. And I'm like, how do I stand with an organization
that like I'm morally opposed to their viewpoint? I can't do that. I was so upset. I wasn't trying to
make a point. All I had to do was say I'm not a lesbian, but that's not advocating for anybody or
helping anything. No. So I, so I resigned. Good for you. That is crazy because I even think about like when
I went to STSU.
Like, if, like, girls didn't want to bring, like, a guy from, like, like, a frat or something, like, and, like, a couple of times I brought, like, my girlfriends.
I was in Alpha Phi, and, like, two of, like, my really close friends were in Pi-Fi.
And so I would, like, bring one of them to, like, our date dash or something like that.
It was Pi-Fi, by the way.
It was the sorority.
It was.
Oh, my gosh.
That's true.
So it was that president that?
Yeah.
So Pfei's president was the one who got mad at you?
Correct.
Got it.
Yes.
So not Kappa Kappa Kappa Gamma.
But they still made me write an apology note and then they changed the rules.
And this is Ole Miss 2003.
That's what I was going to ask, what year?
2003, I was a freshman.
Ole Miss was the last public university to be integrated in 1964.
There was, they had to bring in the National Guard.
Billy Joel sings about it in his song.
We didn't start the fight.
like Ole Miss is historically a really conservative school set in their ways.
And so like the fact that it happened didn't surprise me.
I just never anticipated that that would be a thing.
But hopefully things have changed.
Oh, for sure.
It's also like your friend in PFI invited you.
Exactly.
Exactly.
What the heck.
She was in Auburn High School too in Florida.
I was not expecting that.
I actually dropped my senior year because they were, well, it was like during COVID.
So I was like, I'm not going to pay like two grand or whatever it is.
And we're not going to have any events or anything.
No.
That makes sense.
Yeah.
I was like, so I lived in the house the beginning of junior year.
And then I moved out the second half of junior year because I went abroad.
And so I got a girl to fill in my, like, lease or whatever, like my spot in house.
I got her to fill it in.
And then, but the house, like, didn't have enough money and, like, not all the spots were
being filled up because, like, COVID had started.
And so they were trying to make me pay my, like, living fee still.
Oh, gosh.
And I was like, no, I'm, like, not paying a living fee when I got a girl to cover my spot just
because like girls didn't get theirs covered and like because this COVID things happening but it was
crazy and then sounds like COVID yeah yeah no kidding but they weren't going to let me like not
pay it and so then like the end of my junior year I was like okay whatever and then honestly like
senior year no one had like date dashes or like we didn't do anything and because like we couldn't
we just like all hung out with our friends still and whatever so the only thing I didn't get to do is
wear the like alfifese sash but you can borrow one I'm sure from
yeah I'm sure just just Photoshop it into your picture yeah yeah that's what I
is for isn't it yeah exactly yeah but COVID was just like a weird time you very
for everyone extremely yes yeah the whole like thing about the sororities it's interesting that
you brought that up because when I think about sororities I think about them and
my experience as a social thing.
Like, I just wanted to go to Ole Miss, overpay to buy some friend group, and, like,
go to some fun parties.
Like, I was, I hate to admit this, but I'm going to because I don't think it's that weird.
I had zero interest in philanthropy at all.
Like, at all.
I think that's most people probably.
Yeah, I think most people do it for, like, the parties and, like, the friends and, like, you
meet your friends that way.
Like, I am still friends with my, with my sorority sisters to this day.
We were literally texting each other this morning because someone, one of them has lost
their mom and we sent her a gift.
And, you know, it is, that is what it is about.
At least it was for me, too.
And Indiana is a massive Greek system.
Yeah.
To the point where almost everyone lives in the house, like they're huge houses.
I'm sure it's same at Ole Miss.
But yeah, it is, it's, that's the reason.
I mean, that's the priority reason I think for most people is just a really easy way to meet your people.
Yeah, community.
Like make the huge experience a little bit smaller community with like-minded individuals.
For sure.
That's the hope at least until they tell you you can't bring girl to a dance.
Oh, my gosh.
Yeah, right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
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get your podcast. Okay. So we're going to jump into some questions. So it's kind of like things that like
Instagram pages are like rush like coaches have said and we're going to say if it's true or not and are like
our opinion on it. So rushworthy says in quotes do you make steady eye contact. Don't look around
the room or over the shoulder constantly. Is this BS or Bible? I would say for sure that it's
a really good piece of advice because when you're rushing,
you're trying to connect with the people in the sorority.
And I feel like it's just that,
that piece of advice,
like making steady eye contact and not looking around the room,
is just a level of respect.
Like you're,
you know,
you're showing this person that you're having a conversation with them,
that you respect them,
and you're not hoping to be somewhere else.
And I feel like whenever I'm in a conversation with someone,
and they are not looking in my eye, or not constantly.
Like, you don't have to be like, you know, let's have a staring contest.
First one to blink.
But not looking around the room because that just signals to someone that you don't feel like
they're worthy of your time and you want to be somewhere else.
So I feel like 100% Bible, like this is great advice.
Yeah.
Just to show a level of respect.
Yeah, I agree.
I feel like even in like going forward in all life things.
I honestly think going through recruitment is like a really good thing for you to like learn how to talk to random people.
It's a job interview.
I mean, it's like that's life skill advice right there.
Like make eye contact, be respectful, show interest, be curious, be joyful.
Don't be judgmental.
Like, I mean, you can do that with your eyeballs, all of those things.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was so funny.
I like think about like all my friends when I got back from The Bachelor like a few years ago,
they were like, what was it like?
And I'm like, honestly, it was kind of like I was going through sorority recruitment.
Oh my gosh, I bet.
That's so funny.
I totally see that.
Oh, my gosh.
Gosh, now I feel so stressed out for you.
Yeah.
Yeah, like you have to put your best foot forward.
You have to, you know, feel like you're interested and involved.
and show respect and be fun and be yourself.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
Okay, we'll go into the next one.
So recruitment, Reddy says,
do not tell other friends, ladies,
moms, boyfriends, etc.
What sorority you want before you have even gone through recruitment.
Do not even share your top three favorites.
Is this BS or Bible?
I think on the surface, it's good advice.
Yeah.
That's like how you should operate and carry yourself
because you want to remain open-minded.
Yeah.
But, like, if you're politicking for yourself, the smart thing to do is, like,
drop little hints, plant little seeds, and, like, see what may grow.
Yeah.
No, I agree.
I feel like you can definitely talk to, like, your mom about it.
Like, yeah.
And your boyfriend.
Right.
Like, is she going to call the, every sorority at the school?
I'm sure there's some, like, crazy moms out there that's.
that though. Probably true. So if your mom's not crazy, then you can tell you're just going to right.
Yeah, exactly. Or your best friend who's not even going to the school. Like, I mean, the chances that there's
going to be a connection there is pretty slim. Yeah. And I think if they're trusted people,
then then why not? And just say, you know, I'm just telling you this, you know, between us or whatever.
But is that really a thing? Like, obviously, I haven't rushed in a very long time. So,
I don't know, and it's so much has changed with social media and all of that.
But is that a thing?
Like you're not supposed to talk about where you want to pledge?
I don't think like to, definitely not to the sororities, but I remember like my roommate because she, her brother went to SDSU.
And I had like no idea what like sorority was or anything.
And like she just kept telling me, she was like, you want to be an alfee, pie, fire, or Akeye.
Mm-hmm. Then I was like, oh, okay. Like, I'm sure, like, dependent on, like, what school you're at, but I also feel like they're all, like, being open-minded, like, what you were saying, Megan is, like, so important when you're going into it because you never know and you don't want to be with, like, a bunch of girls you don't mesh with.
Well, and I think like your experience is going to be different based on like your relationship with the school or like any legacies that may have been in the sororities.
So like if you're like me and you're coming in as like from an outside state, not Mississippi, I don't have like a big like Greek connections or anything.
I really had to work work it.
And I had to really sell myself.
But then my best friend on the other hand, she's like legacy for every single sorority that you can ever think of.
and she's Mississippi through and through and like everybody's recruiting her and I think that like what
she had to worry about a little bit was getting like to like diluting herself over deluding herself
like by acting super interested in all these sororities that she's actually not interested in
I think she had the privilege to be able to like narrow it down a little bit earlier yeah oh for sure
I feel like it too, it can like, it definitely differs, like, what school you go to. Was
Olmiss in Indiana? Was it like, did you need, like, letters or recommendation and stuff like that?
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's like, I think they're very similar, both of the schools.
Yeah. And the size and the size of the Greek life at school. But I feel like letters of recommendation are good thing for anybody. You know, like whether you're at a small school or a large school.
I would say. If someone is in that, was in that sorority and is recommending you be in that sorority,
I mean, who knows how much they pay attention to those things, but it cannot hurt.
I think that they kind of do, depending on who wrote it. And then I think I have a tip I want to share
for letters of recommendation, and I think this is kind of in life. That's a big ask to ask someone
to write a letter of recommendation for you. And so if you're like just gathering these,
like from all over the place. I suggest maybe like creating a template and then allowing the person
to like edit it if they would like or just sign on it. I mean, that's definitely skips a lot of
steps in the process, but it makes it a lot easier on the person you're asking a huge favor from.
Yeah. So for Alpha Kai, they have actually changed it so that you don't have to write like an
actual letter. You wouldn't need a template. You have to log in to your account.
on their website, on the Al-Qa-Kai site, and then you enter, like, all of this stuff.
So you can, I think you might be able to upload their resume, but I don't even think
you can do that.
I think you just enter, like, you know, all of the questions that they ask.
And I've written a bunch in the past few years, actually have three or four that I need
to get done as well, one of them being from Ole Miss.
But there are some questions that aren't on the resume.
Like they ask, what should someone in the sorority that they're paired with ask them?
Like what would be some topics of conversation that you can recommend?
Like things that they're interested in or where they're from or whatever.
So I always ask the people that I have to write a rec for.
to let me know that these questions, because oftentimes, more often than not, actually,
I don't know the girl that well, the recruit.
I just know their parents.
So I need to, you know, know this stuff from either the parent or the girl herself
as to how I should answer.
So thankfully, at least for Alpha Chi, you don't have to write, like, a letter from scratch.
My gosh.
My gosh.
If I had to do that, I don't know if I would say yes.
to as many as I do.
That's a lot.
Like you said you have four that you need to do.
At least four.
I just got asked for one last week.
So who knows if more of them will be coming.
But yeah.
I mean, I'm happy to do it more than happy to do it because I feel like, you know,
just the golden rule treat others how you want to be treated.
And when it's Blake's time, when her time comes around.
And if she wants to rush, then I want to be able to reach out to those people as well.
Oh, 100%.
Yeah. I've gotten asked to write a lot of wrecks from people like random strangers on
Instagram.
No way.
Yeah.
Did you do it?
No.
No, I don't know them.
Yeah, right? I'm like, wait a second. I mean, I have to have at least a connection to
someone in that way.
Yeah, like to them.
Yeah.
I have written a few, but I'm like, do you really want the girl who like kind of caused a rucket?
to write you a wreck?
Like, is that?
No.
Do you know that I dropped out?
That's funny.
Oh my gosh.
That's so funny.
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