The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - It's Tough to be the GOAT

Episode Date: August 18, 2020

Ben & Ashley catch up with Taylor Nolan for some inside info on Vanessa Grimaldi’s engagement! We hear her honest thoughts on watching Nick Viall’s season come up on Bachelor GOAT and we try to figure out why contestants get anxiety about the old seasons coming back to TV.We dissect the breaking Bachelor rumors and news. Why was Clare spotted at The Bachelorette set if she’s “out”?? Is JoJo really taking over for Chris Harrison?Plus, we check in with Lauren Luyendyk and she shares the most important lessons she’s learned since becoming a mom. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Yes, the most sexy, the hottest, most beautiful face, and the kindest, warmest soul. Jared! Jared! They're ready for you. Hello? He's here. I'm here. Jared, thanks to coming on.

I'm going to take a step away. I'm going to let you two handle this. I know you have something really exciting. You want to tell everybody at the almost famous family about. And Ashley, I know that you're sitting right next to Jared, which makes you interviewing him a lot easier. I'm just letting you know, based on what you said, it sounds like we're about to announce a baby. Well, that's okay. Are you?

No. Then what do you announcing? All right. So tomorrow night, help I suck it. dating me dean angler we have our first ever live podcast that's right we waited till a pandemic to do our first live podcast which is why we're doing it virtually now it's going to be awesome you guys can come on the podcast ask us questions whatever you want to ask us you talk to dean you talk to me you can ask if dean's married you can ask if him and kailen are planning to get married you can

ask ashley and i uh anything you really want ask us about dating relationships that's the whole point i'm on too well seeing how we're live together, you'll probably be make a cameo. So what you want to do is you want to go to Hysad slash tixar.com. Wait a second. Highsad? Is that your acronym? That would be help I suck at dating.

Unfortunately, we don't have an A-F, all right? We're not fancy like you two. We have a long name, okay? H-Sadad-H-Sad. Hi-Sad. Hi-Sad. So you go to hi-sad.tixar.com. That is H-I-S-A-D-T-S-R-T-I-X-R.

dot com. It's $10 just to get into the podcast. But if you want a pretty awesome help I suck at dating camo beanie, which Dean and myself both rock. And let me tell you, they're spectacular. It's $30. It says hashtag suck army. And my parents were like, Jared, what? Yeah, that's probably not the best thing to show your wife's dad. Well, once I told them what it meant, you know, you just need a little explanation. But it's, you know, listen, suck army that's what you know we call the listeners to the podcast it's suck army baby side joke yeah so if you listen to help i suck at dating you'll understand the inside joke of hashtag suck army so you for

thirty dollars you get the beanie and a ticket or if you just want to stop by ask some questions talk to us on the podcast it'll be a great time it's ten dollars once again the website is hysad dot tixar dot com okay good job being an auctioneer His guest tomorrow are Taylor Nolan, who will be having on the podcast in a very short bit, Mike Johnson and Evan Bass. That is correct. All three people will be on the podcast, and that's all I really have to say about that. Okay, well, should we give them some juicy dish into our relationship to make them feel like this is something that they do want to listen to? No, if you want some juicy dip, is that what you called it? Dish.

Dish. Oh, I thought you meant like dip, like you're dipping a chip in there. I don't know why I thought that. change the expression to juicy dip because that is way better than that's a better visual than juicy dish. Yeah, I'm thinking of salsa. Anyway, what was I saying? It's going to be a great time. What are you going to, like you said, no, we don't want to give any juicy, quote unquote, dish on us because if you want juicy dish on our relationship, just tune into the live podcast tomorrow night and then you can get all, and then you can ask us whatever you want. All right.

and that's it let me uh let me interrupt you here because ashley and i uh did a live podcast just a few weeks ago um it was a really awesome experience actually uh called me afterwards and we were talking like that's just it's a lot of fun it because you get to interact with the people listening to the show you get to actually answer and clarify some of the things you've said in the past and i think the best part is you get to spend a little bit time With the people who have invested so many hours into listening to your voice, to get to see your face and see your reaction. Jared, I just want to be clear.

You've never done this before, right? No, we've never done a live podcast. We've talked about it after we saw you guys do the live podcast up in San Francisco. Jared, are you okay? I have something stuck in my throat. I'm lying down in an awkward position right now. He's been like Kramer for the past four minutes. Just like, uh, uh, loo, uh, uh, uh.

He gets excited, Ashley. I'm excited. And also, I got a text from producers saying, like, make sure you get the energy up, and I'm getting the energy up, baby. And the energy is going to be up tomorrow night, too. It's the summer of Kestan, Georgia. That's the summer of George, babe.

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The Help I Suck It Dating Live podcast. Jared, you're the main. man, Ashley, I'll be watching you guys tomorrow night. Hey, thank you. You're the man just for clarity. And you look great, by the way. The beard on point, you're a stud. I'm growing up. I know. He just compliments Ben every time he sees him. He's very easy to compliment. And just before I go, I just want to bounce off what you said, Ben, about the listeners, the people that listen to the podcast, listen to all our podcasts, and follow us on Instagram. just always know that we appreciate you and specifically to people who listen to

help my second dating like i can't tell you how much it means to myself and dean the idea that people listen to us on a weekly basis just spewing my nonsense so don't ever think that i am not immensely grateful for every single one of you guys so uh okay bye bye now okay so yeah it's funny because every time somebody comes up and it's like oh my gosh i love almost famous i'm like that's so sweet and then jared's like if in case you want to wanted to, you know, listen to a new podcast, make it part of your life. I have one called Health Buy Secondating. Well, it's, uh, it's been a podcast, it's been around for a while.

They have had great success. I've listened to many of their episodes because their insights. Now, here's the thing. This is going to come off so mean, but it's your husband. So I feel like I can say this to you. Oh, you can make fun of them so much. Well, the concept of help by second dating, we've talked about it. It doesn't really make sense because he's married to you.

Dean's in a very successful relationship, but you listen to the insights of the podcast and I've learned a ton or if I haven't learned from them, they've raised questions and topics that I want to think about. I honestly, I think it's worth it. And our next guest is somebody that you and I have both learned a ton from over the last few years. She has been a constant on the Almost Famous podcast. The reason is because her insights not only are sometimes very new,

to you and I, but they also are always very thought-provoking and thorough. She's going to be live tomorrow night, and I'll tell you this. Taylor and Lolan has no, no boundaries on how she'll answer questions, and I love that about Taylor, is you ask her question, no matter how personal, no matter how vulnerable, she's going to answer it to the best of her ability, and she'll be live tomorrow night. Hey, Taylor, how you doing? Hey, I'm doing well. Thanks for having me. Of course. You had the nicest dedication to your friend Vanessa last week who got engaged. Can you tell us a little bit of the deeds when what went into that

engagement? Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, her and Josh are absolutely fantastic and I feel really, really happy that I've been able to actually develop a great friendship with Josh. I feel like he's got my back. He's always like, who are you dating and, you know, okay, we got to find you. someone really good so we can like do double dates and stuff um but yeah it was really really sweet and he had been planning it for a while and um he was asking for my helping it and everything turned out perfectly and she was super super surprised had no idea it was coming um and absolutely loved it so she was shocked like she this was not like this is one of those like surprise engagement she didn't know it was coming did she have any clue that like a ring was even purchased

I will let her share that Yeah Where did it take place They were in Quebec City And was it just like on like a random part It was not like it was in a park Stair I don't really know how to vibe it

It looked like a castle type of thing But it was kind of like a bridge thing I think kind of from the photos You can tell a little bit But it was super sweet And he had like candles up there And like they played like music and it was really really beautiful well we're here to have you talk about your appearance

on the live help i suck a dating podcast which will be tomorrow night but i also wanted to talk to you a little bit before we get there about the upcoming goat episode of nick vial's season is it is it weird at all for vanessa to like just be engaged and then have to watch her season back and watch her engagement to nick um i don't really think so because the uh that was recorded way before all this happened so if anything i think it's kind of weird that like with her update with josh they won't be engaged on it and they are now um but yeah is it weird for you like is are you what's your emotions um i went back and like rewatched my season and uh it was definitely not as terrifying as i thought it would be which was nice um

nerve-racking, of course, because, like, you're back on TV and, you know, that opens up the floodgates on everyone's opinions on everything about you in the, like, 30 seconds that they see. So, yeah, it's been nerve-wracking. I feel like no one who has been on the show has been excited about these good episodes hearing. No, I don't think so either. It's not for most of us, I mean, even if we find love on it, or even if, you know, we make great friends from, or even if we have a quote, great edit, it still is a lot that you go through. So I don't think, yeah, I agree with you.

I think most people are like, why are we doing this? You know, I think there is the level two where like most people are thankful for it in some way, right? It's either enhanced our friendships. It's enhanced our relationships and it's enhanced our life. But you've also, just like anybody would expect you to, you've moved on. You know, you've either found new relationships or you've started. to invest into a career path that is either entertainment focused or it's not and so to pull back like I wouldn't I said it this way I would I had to watch my good episode I don't want to watch

myself in college again great experience loved every minute of it but like if I had to watch it yeah if I had to watch it back that's like horrifying and so the same thing happens with these good episodes you know you're watching yourself kiss again and those things so I get it um Taylor, you are going to be on the Help I Sucket Dating Live show. And before you came on, I was just kind of talking to Ashley offline about, you know, some of the things I really respect about you is your vulnerability. I feel like you really have been an open book, which helps everybody connect with you. Tomorrow night, what is your, when somebody's asking you these questions, is there anything off limits or is there anything really that you're excited to talk to them about? I mean, I appreciate the acknowledgement there and kind words, Ben.

I do try my best to be an open book, obviously, with still having my own boundaries. You know, I'm not going to share anything about a partner or, you know, a past partner that I know they would be super uncomfortable with me sharing. So I don't like share any kind of private or personal information about, like, people that I date unless I have their permission to. I think I'm excited to talk a little bit more about the conversations around sex within relationships and how we go about like engaging in our sexual experiences within our relationships. I'm always excited to talk about sexuality. So I think I'm looking forward to that tomorrow.

You're going to be the like the resident like sex expert tomorrow. I mean, I'm totally happy to take that role on. I'm starting my PhD in clinical sexology. in like two, three weeks the program starts. So really, yeah, thanks, super excited about that. But I also do want to say just to talking about goat for a second, Ben, you know, I watched your goat episode and just have to say, like, you truly were a fantastic bachelor and everything you said to Olivia was so heartfelt and so genuine and I think really healing.

And I was just like, yeah, wow, damn, like Ben is like really a stand-up. guy he is like really thoughtful and kind and I was just like damn good for you I was like that was that was really really great you know it's it's interesting um because you look back on an experience and there's there's so many elements to being on the show and being the bachelor of bachelor or being a contestant it's nerve wracking it's a risk and if you summarize it all I think looking back now and I don't know if you'd agree or disagree but it's like hey I just hope everybody that comes on the show at least either can grow or say they're glad they did it like the worst thing that you could do would say hey i took this risk to like create a story to enhance

life to get to know myself and it in a sense it like ruined me and i think for olivia she's one of the prime examples of somebody that like when you get hurt as deeply as she was hurt from the show you know she cares and you know like there's there's a depth inside of of her that just wants to belong. Totally. And it really, I think even the fans response to it that night was like, I actually, and Olivia could attest this. Like I called her and she was crying and I was crying because I was like,

no matter if I was associated with her or not, it was beautiful to see the fans response saying, hey, Olivia, welcome, welcome. Like we love you. That's cool. That's good stuff. Yeah. Well, and I don't think that every bachelor thinks about it in the way that you do, which I think was part of what, you know,

I had had conversations with Nick and, you know, knowing that the goat is coming up and was on his show and whatnot. And, you know, his response more so to, like, me being sent home was just kind of like, well, I knew it didn't matter. Like, I didn't really care because I knew I wanted to be with Vanessa.

And just the fact that you had this, like, empathy for the contestants that were on your season, I thought was just very, very, very kind of you, very decent of you. And I know it meant a lot to Olivia for you to like have her back in that way. And so just watching it, I was just like, wow, Ben was like actually not only a really great bachelor, but like is a real stand-up guy. Well, that's a great segue then to talk about where I'm where I've learned a lot in my life and been convicted a lot from. And it's something that you and I have in common.

And it's definitely something I want to talk about. So you have publicly talked about and also shared with us that you're a big fan of Bray Brown, who I'm a massive, massive fan of, listened to also read a ton from. What about Bray Brown? And for anybody out there listening, Bray Brown is an author and a speaker. She has incredible TED talks out there. But if you just want, I'd say every person. And actually, I don't know if you even know of Brne.

Oh, I know all about her. Okay. If you're listening, you're like, I've never heard of Bray Brown. I'm just going to tell you this right now. Go out there and just like Google her, watch some of the stuff. I think it's really going to like relate with a lot of us.

But Taylor, what about Brne do you most like associate with? And what do you get from from just reading her and thinking through what she's saying? Yeah, yeah. So she's like the world's leading researcher on vulnerability and shame. So those are like the two big topics that, that she speaks on.

And it's funny because, Because whenever people ask me why I went on the show in the first place, I usually include her in that response because her second book, or second book in like after gifts of imperfection, then daring greatly, then Rising Strong, Braving the Wilderness. I was reading gifts of imperfections during my program. When I finished my program, I started reading Daring Greatly. And that was when the opportunity for the show came on. And I was like, yeah, okay, how can I dare greatly in my life?

and, like, be vulnerable. And when I was like, yeah, you know, what better way to dare greatly and challenge myself with being vulnerable than to go on a national reality dating show and date a total stranger. So that piece to me, there's so many pieces of her work

that really, like, resonate and stick out to me. But certainly, like, the most life-changing for me was taking on the, like, how do I dare greatly? And that's what literally led me to going on the show. So cool. So very cool. So tomorrow when you're on the live podcast, we know that you have a lot of insight, whether it's vulnerability or sex. What is one thing that you feel like you still need to learn a lot about and still need to approve upon yourself to become a better dater? Certainly, I would say sitting in my independence. I think one of the things I struggle with in relationships is when I get in one, it like, becomes my whole identity. So I think navigating how to maintain your own sense of independence

while in a relationship is something I'm always continuously working on. And in that, it's developing interdependence. So for me, that interdependence is kind of like where I talked about on Paradise, of like being your own full puzzle. But I look at it more as like a Venn diagram now. So it's like, I'm my own full circle here and my partner is their own full circle here. And when we come together as of an diagram, we still are our own full people, right? But then we have this like middle space where we have interdependence, where we can rely on each other for things while still knowing that like our life and our identity exists outside of each other. You are so fun to listen to. Where can people, no, for real. Like I could just listen to you

and not speak for a while because you're just full of knowledge. Where can people listen to you more? I try. Thank you, Ashley. Really smart in some areas, not at all in others. The main place that people can listen to me is my podcast, which is called Let's Talk About It. I've also started a Patreon page where I'm going to be doing Bachelor breakdowns, talking about sex, doing sex Q&A's, sharing like the things I'm learning in my PhD program on there, which you can also just search, I think, patreon.com slash tamoka. But on my Instagram at Tamoka is where I have like all the links in my bio for all the places that you can follow me, find me, support my work, um, all that good stuff. How long will this PhD, uh, I guess what, I don't want to say class, like how long will it take you to get your, yeah, process take. The journey. Yeah.

The journey from my PhD will be about two years. Um, I'm getting an at modern sex therapy institute. And so the first, uh, the first whole year is your course work. And then the second year is like your dissertation and supervision. There's not a whole lot of regulation around sex therapy certification, around being a sexologist. Florida is the only state that actually has regulations around being a sex therapist. And so the institute is based there and they're licensed. And I have a friend here in Seattle who's an asex certified therapist who's going to be doing the program with me, which I'm really excited about.

out. Um, but yeah, ASEC is like the largest accreditation for sex educators, sex therapists. Um, and, you know, that I could do, but it would take me about the same amount of time. And I was kind of like, you know, I think I want to get my PhD instead. So really excited about the program. And yeah, I'll be finished by the time I'm 30 and hopefully also be an author. Maybe that is goals. That's amazing. Hey, uh, Taylor, uh, uh, on behalf and not to be cliche. Thank you for, thank you for daring greatly. Thank you for sharing and talking with us. Thank you for being a constant guest in the podcast. If you want to hear more from Taylor, again, check out everything she's doing that she just mentioned. But also, you have the opportunity to see Taylor, which is a gift to us all. At the Help I Second Dating Live podcast, August 18th, you can buy tickets. They're 10 bucks. Or as Jared just mentioned a second ago, you can pay 30 bucks and get a beanie with it. t ixr.com taylor nolan is a special guest taylor thank you for coming on thanks for talking with us and uh wishing the best in your further studies yeah thank you so much for having me thanks taylor

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That this is sometimes the first thing someone sees when we make a post or a reel is how our hair is styled. You talk about the important role hairstylist play in our community, the pressure to always look put together, and how breaking up with perfection can actually free us. Plus, if you're someone who gets anxious about flying, don't miss session 418 with Dr. Angela Neil Barnett, where we dive into managing flight anxiety. Listen to therapy for black girls on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Ashley, this weekend I went and hiked my first 14er in Colorado.

You know what that is? Nope. Okay, so if you live in Colorado or anywhere near the mountains, everybody always asks you, have you done a 14er yet? Which means you've hiked and summited a mountain that's above 14,000. So it's a long hike. It takes about a half a day. You wake up super early to do it. It's not easy. And I did one this weekend. That's an accomplishment in itself. I'm super proud of myself for doing it. However, here is the story I want to share with you. Okay. So I'm on this hike. I'm going down the mountain. And literally, the trail walks alongside of like a thousand foot drop off. Like it's like a, I mean, it's just straight down. And the path is about, let's say, three to four foot wide so you have enough room to walk it's not that scary but it's i mean if you go off the side like you're going down the mountain which happens like people it exists with people right it happens

so so we're on this walk and there's a ton of dogs in the walk always uh but a dog gets left out off its leash and there's a mountain goat and this dog runs off the side of a mountain right in front of us after this goat runs off no a dog what yeah somebody's puppy runs right off the side of a mountain after this goat so we're standing there how did i hear goat uh because it ran after a goat so there's like a mountain goat um so this dog runs literally off the side of the mountain so far down that like you can't see it anymore it's that steep like you're looking over the cliff and you can't see the dog and this this the owner is freaking out obviously is super sad and then we hear We hear the dog bark, but it's so far down the mountain.

This owner, so this represents love to me, this owner out of pure love for their dog, literally like climbs down this mountainside, which is so dangerous, after their dog, and then grabs the dog, finds a dog 500 feet below them off the side of this cliff. And the dog is only staying onto the cliff by a snowbank. So there's like a snow buildup. and the dog had like fallen down to the snowbank and was sitting on it the owner goes down and then out of pure like fight or flight crawls their way with their dog back up to the trail to walk at home right in front of his all wild wildest day i don't know it's crazy weekend how did how did this dog survive that drop uh it probably actually like ran and it just like never fell fully and if it fell then it fell just a few feet because it was the the steepness of the cliff was

like gradual until a certain point and so they didn't put the dog I mean I don't know I didn't see but I'm assuming the dog didn't actually fall 500 feet it ran probably you know 475 feet and then fell the last 25 but the dog was fine totally like just like stumbled and like yeah you know roly pulley down the yeah and then got caught up on the snow bank and the owner was able to crawl down It was the wildest thing. Thank God for the snowbank. What a wild thing to experience. I mean, my hands are sweating talking about it.

Like, what a wild thing to experience in person. But that was my weekend. And obviously, Ashley, the Bachelor headlines didn't stop this weekend at all. And we have a lot to talk about. I can't wait to hear from you. Everybody always asked me, you know, what's Ashley's insight like? It's always above and beyond anything I could ever come up with. So the first headline this week is Jo Jo Fletcher.

Yes, Joe, Joe. Fletcher, the beloved contestant from the 20th season of The Bachelor and then The Bachelorette on season 16 is filling in for Chris Harrison as the host. I think it's probably the first time Chris has ever not hosted an episode of The Bachelor or Bachelorette. And she will be doing it for the next 14 days. This is according to us weekly. Yeah. Okay. So actually Chris Harrison did have a fill in. I think it was another former contestant who filled in for him. And this was over a decade ago. This is before I watch a show. Forgive me for not remembering what season it was.

But I hear from a very inside source that Jojo was supposed to go down to Akinta for 14 days. And this, I was told, like I was actually told this, before Harrison went on the trip to drop his kid off at college in Texas. So either they were planning. on her filling in the entire time like if he was going to go to Texas that was the plan he was going to have to quarantine for 14 days it seemed a little fishy to me though because the other quarantines down there have not been 14 days they've been about seven and usually with two negative

tests you are able to start roaming about and I do want to just emphasize again that it is so safe down there. You are quarantined to your room. Can't see anyone, can't see producers, not even with a mask on. You can't go out to get food. The food is delivered to your door. And you have to have two negative COVID tests up the nose, two nostrils before walking around the campus. It's super safe. And I do believe that the producers and the cast had a quarantine for about seven days before they started shooting now why would they change that with Harrison

that he goes he goes to Texas drops off his kid at college comes back and then has to do 14 days there's also reports that Chris wasn't very happy about that I have no firsthand knowledge of this but I do think it's interesting that Jojo was set

before Chris came back to have a 14 day stay at La Quinta To throw a little twist in this, while we've been recording this podcast, E.T., who I find a very reliable source in all this, as Lauren Zima, Chris Harrison's girlfriend, works there, is, has new pictures of the executive producer, Chris Harrison, and Claire in a red dress at La Quinta filming with cameras and lighting around them. It could be a promo. They could be shooting a promo. But he's definitely not quarantined to his room right now. So is this a twist?

Are they just trying to twist this season so much that Jojo fills in and it's fun? It's just like a new thing. It's just a new, a new, whoa moment. Or is he actually busy doing something else for this season? So Ashley, I think everybody's asking, is this a change in the guard? for The Bachelor? Do you see this being a long-term change? Or is this really just a temporary fill-in of Jojo for just this season? Well, what do you think? I think this is just truly a temporary fill-in. However, there's some fishy smell around it all that there's more to this, to me.

That's what I'm wondering. Now, I don't think at any level Chris Harrison is close to being done with the show. And I do think JoJo is going to do a tremendous job at hosting this. It makes sense to me. However, I don't think this is a permanent thing. I don't even think it's hinted at that. It is fishy. There's still a lot to be found out. Here's the truth to all. To sum it up, as a fan, I am so interested in this season now. I mean, there's so much chaos. It's like they took the environment and what the world is feeling in reality and just moved it down to Palm springs and like hypened it up a little bit oh yeah there's never been more promotion of a season than this and it's almost all natural promotion and it's great because nothing else is happening

in entertainment today i also think we should mention that claire was spotted there's photos that have been linked to her from from her stay at le kinta over the past week i believe not not that i have this as factual knowledge, but from what I gather, that Claire's just going to end up staying at Lakeinta and has stayed at Lakeinta since she supposedly dropped out of her season early. Yeah, I would be shocked if they would like to sing Claire home. That doesn't seem like even if she's off the season and after show, they're going to follow up with her. They're going to do interviews with her. They're going to show whatever the progress is in her relationship. I have no doubt she's still probably down there hanging out doing her thing it's probably a lot easier than being the

bachelorette uh but again this is wild and there's still a lot of unknowns however we do know that jojo fletcher is filling in for 14 days at this point for chris harrison on to the next story one of our favorites on the podcast and somebody that's come on a couple times and helped us host and also just came on for interviews um karen from nick's season uh really came out this week and showed a lot of vulnerability and really started opening up about what it was like to be on The Bachelor. She thought her life was over after her actions on The Bachelor. Corinne mentions this on her interview with Nick and then E Online covered it, but Corinne and Nick sat down for a very vulnerable talk, which is obviously something that is intriguing to watch.

Ashley, what do we know about Corinne and what exactly did she say? So she says, I acted like a psychopath. She says I was a completely different human at the time. I tried to do whatever I could to get your attention. I think she's referring to Nick in that situation. So she did everything that she could to get Nick's attention. Everyone freaked out, but I didn't care because I got my time with him, you know, on screen, all that. She also said that there was a lot about their relationship that viewers didn't get to see,

including a heartfelt letter that producers never ended up giving to Nick, but she sent, she put in their hands. She also said that she was upset because she feels like she has the qualities of a good wife and that she is a good girlfriend currently, but that side of her wasn't shown. She said that she felt like she looked like a pimbo. Well, we love Corinne. We have appreciated her openness and honesty and her humor.

You know, it's always a learning experience. as we've talked about many times. And you know what? It is helpful to hear people come out and talk about their experience and how it affected them. Speaking of Nick's season, Ashley, Vanessa,

who was engaged to Nick after that season of The Bachelor, is now engaged. She got engaged, and Nick commented on the social media post with a very kind comment, which is nice to see. Yeah, he said,

well thank God I followed you back a week ago to hear this news he wasn't following her for the past year or so after their breakup and then continues to say congrats to you two lucky guy um Vanessa started dating her lucky man over a year ago for sure Ben and I got to meet him at one of our Tahoe trips last summer wow that was last summer time flies by but he's super nice he's a great guy we're really happy for Vanessa this is an unexpected engagement but it's one that we still will celebrate and it is great to see nick and vanessa talking again uh it's you know obviously with nick coming out with his new patreon show uh it's going to always be interesting to follow along with those interviews and how they actually do speak of their relationship and what they learned actually you and i are really excited we've talked about it now for the last couple weeks but we have a really cool opportunity

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Actually, if I remember it, is her very first in-depth episode, is somebody that is constantly seen through the headlines of trying to do good. good in the world. And we're pumped to have her on today. Lauren Lyingdike, welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. Thanks for having. Hey, Lauren. Hey, Ashley. Hi, Ben. How are you guys? So good. We are good. Good. Good to hear. How are you doing? You posted something on

Instagram the other day about how you're feeling a lot of anxiety lately. Anything you want to dive into with us? I mean, I don't want to go down a rabbit hole or anything, but obviously I'm overwhelmed. I'm dealing with the launch of my brand, which is a big thing for me, something I've been working on for a long time. And I'm also trying to be a good mom and wife. So there's just a lot of my plate at one time. And you guys recently just moved into a new house, right? Yeah, we did. Yeah. So we moved in our new house like two months ago and we're actually also remodeling our house. So that's another huge thing. Real quick, I want to pause you here because it's funny, Lauren, my grandma and my aunt both follow you on social media to like keep up with your life as a mother and as a wife

and my they both follow me too but like it's always impressive to me how much they know about you and so on on behalf of them i feel like i need to take a second here and and just ask what does it mean for you to be a good wife and a good mother like if we could dive into that a little bit what are you trying to do um so i guess on the front of being a good mom mom. I have a one-year-old daughter for those you guys that don't know. And I think for me, the most important thing is just setting a good example for her and showing her that she can do it all and she can be happy while doing it. So part of the reason I'm doing this clothing line is because I want to show her that she can do the same in her life too. So there's that. And then also just making

sure that there's time for me to be with her and have quality time and teach her how to swim and talk and do everything that she likes to do. So that on the mom front. And then on the white front, obviously you have to spend quality time with your significant other too to make sure they're happy to be. So it's just,

it's more of like a balance of time that is difficult to do. But I'm trying my best at it. So yeah. On the same note as Ben, when I look at your Instagram, I'm like, how does she do it all? Plus look so pretty and put together doing it.

you're hilarious no seriously me and jay talk about it all the time we're like her hair is like perfectly done makeup is perfectly done um but like i know that you are probably you're probably like doing something towards work at all times whether it's your you know personal life or your brands yeah yeah basically every single every day whether it's the weekend or the weekday we're doing something that is for work um so maybe that's why I'm always looking put together, but I guarantee you it's not always like that. Well, let's transition then over to your most recent project, something you've already kind of hinted at and that you've been working hard on. You are coming out with your lifestyle line,

Shades of Rose. Lauren, for anybody at the listening, what, tell them about it. So I started working on Shades of Rose about two years ago. And I guess I've always just had this passion since I was in high school. I did a little. little modeling for fun. I wouldn't say I was serious about it, but I met this really cool designer locally in Seattle who helped me design us from a bathing suit with her. And that was kind of what inspired my passion to go down and design my own clothing line. So it's called a lifestyle line. I have a question. Is there anything beyond clothes? Well, for right now, it's just going to be clothes. I'm thinking about branching into like kids clothes, maybe, you know, maternity

or possibly even like interior stuff in the future, but that's far. Your place, your houses always look so perfect too. So I think a lot of people will be interested in that furniture, home decor line. Thank you. Yeah, it's a lot of fun. I love doing that stuff. When is the official launch of the brand so the official launch of the brand is tomorrow on august 18th i got my uh my picks my favorite items from your line delivered to my door today i am in rhode island but it's in it's in it's in l.a and i can't wait to put it on oh my gosh i'm so excited i hope this stuff is so cute i was like oh my gosh i'm going to need every single item she's good thank you Yeah, I really hope you love them.

Well, for any better listening, you can go to the Shades of Rose.com. Again, the launch is August 18th. I'm assuming just because of you, Lauren, and also the quality of the product. That sales will go quick,

and so make sure you get online as soon as you can, as soon as you wake up, and check out the Shades of Rose by Lauren Lyondike. Lauren, thanks for coming on. And we wish you the best and the most success in this. This is going to be a lot of fun. And we are incredibly supportive of you. Before we let you go, Lauren, is there any little thing that Alessi is really into these days?

She's starting to say a lot of words. Like, what was her first word? Yeah. So Alessi is a busy body. She's so independent, only at one year old. She's talking all the time in her own little language. she's constantly like babbling um that's really cute and then she also just learned how to swim underwater so i think that's probably her new favorite thing she loves dunking herself under the

water and holding her breath and she's really proud of herself so it's really cute to watch no way that's so cool that's impressive i it's really impressive that's a big deal actually my buddies and i were at the lake two weeks ago and we were trying to hold our breath underwater for as long as we could and we're not very good at it anymore so let's see good for you you might have you be crazy i'm pretty sure i was scared to do that until second grade so she's ahead of the game yeah i know i was for a while too so i'm really impressed with her and i still got to plug my nose well lauren you're the best thanks again and best luck tomorrow on the launch uh if you if you need anything let us know all right thank you guys bye

all right bye thanks for joining us today guys next week we have nick Vial coming on. He's going to talk about his goat episodes and his in-depth interviews with his girls. But until then, I've been Ashley. And I've been Ben. We'll talk to you soon, everybody.

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