The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Jed's Downfall, Tyler's Triumph & a Baby in the Closet with Tyler C

Episode Date: July 31, 2019

Bachelor Nation this finale was savage.Tyler C is here as guest co-host and he’s opening up about EVERYTHING. Did Hannah make the right decision?Do Tyler and Hannah have a chance at reconciliation? People thought Tyler was a player at first… how did he break down that barrier with Hannah? Why did everyone seem to implode except for Tyler?Tyler reveals something shocking about how he got involved with the show. We learn what Tyler thinks about Jed and "girlfriendgate".Ben has some advice for Tyler as he continues his journey through the Bachelor world.Plus Jade and Tanner had a baby in their closet!!!... yep in their closet... and Ashley was one of the first people they called! Plus BIP is less than a week away and we are getting you ready! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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away from Los Angeles. Have text till three in the morning with excitement and passion towards a guest. But surprise, surprise, America's sweethearts in studio, Tyler C, welcome to co-hosting almost famous famous podcast. Yay. Thanks for having me, Ben. Oh my gosh. Tyler. This is going to be hilarious.

I, according to social media, if you go by follower accounts, you are the most popular male member of the Bachelor franchise. I guess. And he's humble, guys. So, I mean, how overwhelming has this whole thing been for you? you are not only like such a bachelor fan favorite but it's almost like you would be on the cover of people's most eligible bachelors are like what is what is the the sexiest man alive like that's the status that you're at right now i'll take it uh it's been it's been an incredible experience um it's been crazy been you know never would expect it to be what it has become when i you know signed up for this and went for it uh but i'm super grateful for like my mom my pops my brothers and like my best friends that are you know kind of you know how to take the jabs at me to keep me humble and and just kind of you know also help me like go through this whole process

because it's a lot it's been it's been a whole lot but uh super grateful for this whole experience now Tyler man to man here I've gone through this wild deal I know where you're from I've been to Jupiter many times my guy yeah it's a great spot my uncle's actually the town manager down there so in Jupiter Island so yeah I've been down there a bunch you know, it is a wild deal. And I think our listeners always enjoy hearing the behind the scenes. And I want to set the stage and I want you to tell me if I'm completely wrong because we've met some, I mean, studs from this show. I mean, there's been a lot of studs.

You have definitely retrieved the most and received, I should say, retrieved, received the most like, I'd say love and when it comes to just adoration and just admiration for you. But you go on this show, you sign up thinking this. This could work. It could not. You know you're a good-looking dude. Like, you've been told that your whole life. You mean, you post pictures on Instagram, you know, looking like, what's his face? Paul Newman.

So you know what you got going for you. Paul Newman was a great comparison. Oh, yeah. I thought that since the beginning. I'm a big Paul Newman fan. So anyways, you know this going to the show. You know that there's going to be a lot of good-looking guys there. What has the response done to you personally?

has it blown you away? Is it what you expected? And now what do you do with it? No, I mean, I never would have expected it to be this. You know, I came into this not knowing what to expect. And it's been blown away by. It's been so much love and everyone's been amazing. I guess going forward, you know,

I was just trying to use, you know, this platform that I've been given for good things. And, you know, I'm going to try and promote, you know, ABC food tours and things I do with kids and try and bring those up around me. That's always been my goal is if I come up, everyone's going to come up with me that I can bring up. You know, you were actually kind of a dark horse

in the beginning of all this. I think the first five weeks, four weeks before your date in Newport Rhode Island, you were just, you were kind of flying under the radar. I think a lot of girls were like, oh, she can't go there. He's going to be a player. You can't trust a guy with a face like that.

And then you turned around and that date was like, wait, this guy is like so, comforting and he knows all the right things to do to get her in a better mood and all the right things to say um how did you feel about just like the different stages of your your bachelor's experience yeah no uh you know starting in in newport is kind of when me and hannah really made that first big connection on one-on-one time um i was given a great opportunity and you know she was upset she was down and it was a great opportunity for me to show her that i can pick her up in those tough times and I was able to do that and I think it just kind of springboarded our relationship

and allow us to really take each other serious moving forward because I think she didn't really take me that serious ahead of that. She didn't because I know this because I met with her before your date in Newport. Jared and I had a little cameo and it was a couple days before your date and I was like what about Tyler because he's creating the most buzz online based on profile pictures. Everybody is talking about how Tyler is like the only cute standout. And then she was like, yeah, I don't know. Like I'm worried he's a player. And no, she, I mean, she had those talks with me and I was able to kind of air out, you know, my past with her and that kind of helped us get past that. And, you know, it was just, I think we, I don't know, just that time where she was

really upset, it really allowed us to really kind of build that bond and show that there could be something here that could be more than just, you know, just looks and this and that, and it's been so much more ever since. Is that frustrating that you're getting this, you were getting this player rep just based on your good appearance? I don't know if it was frustrating. It was just, it was just another way for me to break down a barrier with her and connect with her more and show that I'm more than just that and more than what she sees. And I think we took those steps and allowed us to have the wish that we had. The, uh, the, Tyler, I think, think I've never met you in person. I'm sure you're a great dude. Um, and you're a good looking

guy. You got a lot going for you. Say the right things. You're a good dancer. I haven't seen anything in you yet that, uh, I get why I guess I just say I get why my phone was blowing up until 3 a.m. forcing me to have no sleep. Um, but I was laying in bed last night. I was laying in bed last night. I was like, all right. Why? And I want you to disagree with me here, if you, if you do. And listeners, please email us at Ben and Ashley, iHeartmede.com. I was laying in bed last night. I was like, okay, Tyler's a good dude. He's got a lot going for him. He should be getting the reception he is. I love that you are. I think that you're going to do great things with this. I love that I really do think you mean it because I've seen it and what you've done that

everybody's going to come up along with you in this and that you want this to be used for good and you're going to have fun while doing it as well. I will tell you this. I think you had the easiest journey on the Bachelorette of all time. And I say that because everybody around you blew up. I mean, you were going to be a star. Like, granted, you deserved it and granted you were good looking and you're kind and you're nice. I've never seen one contestant kind of fly underneath the radar and then have everything around him self-destruct. Like you did. I mean, even Peter, who we love on this show, and we can't wait to talk to him, even Peter made the headlines for having a girl five months before the show happened. Like, it was unbelievable. Everybody blew up but you. Yeah,

Yeah, no, I mean, for me like that, I would just see it happen. I would see people, you know, I think to be, to try and build a successful relationship on the, on this show, you need to be truly confident in yourself and in your relationship. And I saw that a lot of people, you know, wouldn't be confident in their relationship with themselves with Hannah. And he could just see it starting to teeter and start to implode. And I just, it was everyone was like a ticking time bomb. Just people blew up one after another. And then all the other stuff that came out, you know, post shows is, you know, maybe. even more kind of bizarre.

So what were you thinking when that People magazine article came out about Jed having a girlfriend? I was disappointed, you know, because when it got down to me, Peter and Jed, I felt that any way she goes, she's going to be in good hands. And you truly care and love for somebody that you want them to be happy. And wherever she goes, she was going to be happy. And I felt like they would be able to take care of her. And just to see all that go down the way it did is just, it's just truly.

disappointing. And I think Jed could have, you know, he had his chances to make things right. And at least he explained to her what's going on and come clean. And it didn't happen that way. And, you know, it's just disappointing because that girl deserves the world. And I just hated, you know,

my heart ached for her to see her go through that because, you know, I wanted her to be the happiest person ever. And she went through some tough times. Do you think that if he had said anything earlier, it would have changed the relationship for the better? I think it would have, if he had said it during the show, I think she just would have eliminated him.

Yeah, but that's still better for her. No, absolutely better for her, yeah. Tyler, I wonder if that brings up a question, I'm thinking, did you, after being around it and looking back and seeing how he reacted and kind of the conversation you were having, do you think at any point it hit him? Oh, no. Like, this is bad for me. Like, there's no way out of this.

Like, I care about her, probably. I'm still assuming he does. Do you think he did really care about her? I mean, I was very close. with Jed in the house. Like, we were roommates in the Netherlands and, you know, as a guy who I really grew close to. And I truly believe that guy had genuinely like serious feelings for her and loved

her and cared for her. Like, I truly believe that. I just think, you know, he could have, when he got home, he could have handled things with his ex better and he could have handled things with Hannah better and communicated things a lot better than he did. Like be honest right away. Yeah. So I just think that, you know, I do believe that he.

he really did catch those serious feelings for Hannah and just didn't know how to, you know, pivot off of that and make the, and do the right thing. It was just that he got caught in lies and lies. Like he kind of told her a little bit and then the People magazine came out and he even tried to deny it even further. And she was like, I have this information why you keep denying it. And then he just got caught in such a series of lies. Yeah. No, it's just disappointing. You know, I just, it sucks at Hannah how to go through this.

and now this season has had to end. But, you know, Hannah is going to come out on top. And she's, I mean, she killed it last night. She was amazing. And she's so powerful. And she's going to, the world's hers. She can do whatever she wants. And she's going to have, I don't know, she's, she's going to, whatever she wants to do,

she's going to crush it. I'm just constantly in awe of how she's able to articulate herself so well. She's so intelligent. Yeah. She's so smart. Do you want to be a part of that powerful world that she's creating? We'll see. We'll see what happens.

No, no, no, no, no. Now we'll see. Do you want to? No, wait. Let's not put him in a corner the way he was last night. You know, I think we need to just, you know, like we need to have a drink. We need to hang out and just see how, you know, it is with no pressure. I don't think we need to put any pressure on anything, any expectations on anything. Just be around each other away from cameras, away from everything and hang out and just enjoy each other. I mean, we have, we had a great relationship. You know, I value and cherish her so much. and all that she's taught myself and what I've learned from her. And I just, you know, I just want to, like, that's someone I would never just, like, cut off from being my friend because it didn't work out.

I think that you should totally go get a drink. But did you feel pressure from Hannah, Chris Harrison in the audience last night when she asked you out? No, I didn't feel like much pressure. I mean, I thought we were going to eventually one day, you know, I have a drink and dinner or something like that. You know, I thought that was inevitable and going to happen. and Chris Harrison was just throwing fuel in the fire. I know. That's Chris, but it was fun, and it was a great way to end on a good note.

And, you know, and that chapter closes, the Bachelorette's over. And, you know, there's a new chapter to begin. And, you know, who knows what happens. You know, I think, Tyler, you're going to be pushing a corner, right? And you're dating on national television. And I get it. Like, Chris has to do his job. You're sitting up there on stage.

I don't, I feel bad for you because I don't think there's a right answer there. but going through your head as you sit there and not months before you had been broken up with by this girl she chose somebody else she's obviously hurt but she obviously cares a ton about you and looking back on that does that change your feelings towards her and as you say you have so much respect and love for her what is your thoughts on Hannah now I mean you were broken up by this girl like you were told to go home and kind of leave life as she moved on with somebody else is there any resentment there there's no resentment and that's why you know I think we need to take it very slowly we need to just have a drink and just see how we are around each other because if we were to just rush into something right away and try and be boyfriend and girlfriend you know at the men or at the after the final rows like it would just not be healthy for us it would be good see part of me felt like that's kind of how they presented it it was like well guess what guys they're dating now yeah I mean it's just gonna we're just gonna take it you know you know one step at a time have a drink and just see how it is to be around each other again with no pressure no cameras no nothing and

see how it's how it is so you didn't feel like a backup plan or a fallback no i mean i if anything like i still want to be in contact with hannah like even if she was still with jow i was still going to be their biggest supporters and biggest fans and see them when i see them and and now i still you know they're not together but i still want to grab a drink with her and you know see what happens and you know if nothing happens in a relationship at least someone like a friendship that always cherish and have and be thankful for and you were so classy during your exit i have never seen anybody get dumped on that show and be as kind and gracious as you were is amazing well i think i don't know what it was but something came over me as soon as like

she like stopped me and i was like i said like this isn't it and uh something like kind of came over me right away is like take care of this girl because this is her big day who are you who are you tyler and before i got in here i read your instagram captioned to her and it's like what kind of planet did you come from and why don't more men come from that planet my fiance totally came from the planet but there's there's not the easton came from the planet that's for sure but and ben came from the planet ben just sucks ben there's four guys i know that came from this planet ben started the planet and um hey Tyler can we have a dude chat for a second yeah let's do you and I want to talk you about some stuff because I do think you're a good dude and uh and I've seen you know I've been around

this world not too I mean in comparison four years about and I've seen a lot of people good people coming in out of this and I want to spend like two minutes here just chatting with you because I don't know when the next time we'll see it or when I'll get to see is this thing gets crazy And I do, I feel for you last night because even if you're into Hannah and this thing works out for you, you know, we'll all celebrate that. That'd be awesome. But there is a pressure that was put on you last night to respond in some way to have people react in a positive way. If you would have looked at that camera and said, you know what, no, this isn't going to work. The story is bad for you. And it's bad for everybody. But you now have an attention on you that you've never probably felt before. You have millions of people following you on social media. You have one. women that are flocking to you, you have a ton of women that are commenting on your Instagrams and will see you in person, and they'll cry when they see you. It will happen to you. And I want to hear, like now, does that change the way you're going to date? Does that change when you sit across from Hannah, a woman that you knew six months ago before all this happened,

is your mindset different? Has it changed you? Um, you know, I don't think it's, when it comes to dating, like, I'm still, I don't know, I haven't really put myself out there to date at all, you know, so I don't know what to expect, but, you know, this has been craziness and, you know, I truly don't know what to expect. And, you know, I don't look at Hannah any differently because I have more followers or because of anything like that, you know, Hannah's Hannah to me. And that's how, you know, it is. And I don't know, I just, you know, I'll see how dating goes from here. And I'm not trying to put any pressure or anything but you know it's definitely you know i definitely it's crazy i don't even know what to expect to be honest can i give you can i give you one piece then to finish out our guy talk some unsolicited advice bring it on this thing will change you buddy it will it it i say every year at the end of the season that my best advice ever was given but was from chris harrison who said let let this world enhanced life you already had and not changed your life completely but it will change pieces of you. It just happens. But there's nothing. There's nothing fulfilling

about chasing the fame. There's nothing fulfilling about seeking attention. There's nothing fulfilling about looking for the next conquest. There's nothing good about it. And it's happened and it's been done and it's been done for years and years and years. But the most cool thing that happens from the show is when men like you who have it all, who have been given a lot, who now have a platform say I'm going to go against the grain and I'm not going to let the critics paralyze me and put me down and I'm not going to let the positive comments lift me up and make my head bigger than it ever should be I'm going to stay neutral I'm going to stay sane I'm going to keep things into perspective and know that you are not God you never will be but at the end of

all this in four five six years you can look back on all and I promise you this bud like I promise you you'll look back on this if you do it well and it will all make sense It'll all be a blast, and you'll get more attention and more love and more support than you ever dreamed of, and this whole thing will be worth it, no matter where are you and Hannah go. I don't know. I'm not going to put that pressure on you. My only, to simplify everything, don't let your head get too big. It will destroy you. No, I appreciate that. And I mean, I've heard so many great things about you and how you've handled things both show and, you know, since being The Bachelor. And, you know, it's great to hear that from you because I have most respect for you from what I've heard from everybody because everyone has so much respect for you. I'll definitely keep that, you know, and run with what you just said. Yeah, but have a blast with it. Anyways, hey, Ashley, I'll bring you back in. I just want to make sure at some point in this talk, when the guy like Tyler comes in and you can feel the presence and everybody's going to be swooning over you, and they should,

have a blast with it, but I want to make sure I got to tell you that because the worst thing that can happen is that this thing, you know, spits you up and, or tears you up and spit you out, and it's just not, it's not fun when you see that from a distance. Yeah, no, I greatly appreciate that. I'll definitely be in touch with you about all this. He's the mentor for all the guys coming off the show. It's pretty amazing. Ben makes a good friend every couple's, every season.

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I just want to celebrate it. I just feel like it's overkill. I feel bad for our listeners. Yes. No, it's all good. But, hey, I know you're pumped about the possibility of Jade still making it to the wedding. But we've got big news. Jade and Tanner just had their second baby in a closet.

Yep. Ashley, on the last podcast, you talked about some salad that you brought her. What's going on? Can you break this whole thing down for us now that it's happened and the baby's healthy? Yes, it's so crazy because when I was talking to you last, it was just about 48 hours ago. And I was like, well, if she doesn't have the baby in like, 48 hours, she probably can't come to the wedding because Jade kind of said that August 1st was her cut off for traveling. She didn't want to, or well, she couldn't travel. It was her cutoff for like being comfortable bringing a baby on a plane. So, you know, I was kind of trying to cope with the fact that Jade probably wouldn't be there. But as a kind of a joke and, you know, a fun experiment when we went. down to have a little adult sleepover, which sounds really weird when I say adult sleepover, but like just a sleepover at Jade Tanners in Orange County on Friday night, I brought her this

salad that has totally, has a reputation for inducing labor. A lot of celebrities use it. I'm not sure if I said this on the podcast, but Carson Daly's wife went to labor twice after eating this salad or at least drinking the salad dressing, which she did. She like actually drank it from the bottle. And then Hillary Duff was also spotted like nine months ago before her last child was born going to get the salad. And I was like, okay, this will be fun. And like, it'll be something for like everybody to kind of laugh at. And when she was eating the salad on Saturday morning, we were kind of just deciding how long we were, how long we were going to give the salad credit if she did go into labor, right?

So we came to the conclusion that we would give the salad the credit for inducing her labor if she went into labor within 48 hours of eating it. So she went into labor 55 hours after eating it. So you guys tell us at Ben and Ashley at iHeartMedia.com, if that means that you think that she went into labor because of the salad or just because the baby wanted to come. I know, just because the baby wanted to come, right? She still was early. She was decently early.

But the closet thing is wild. I guess you want to talk about the closet now. It's so crazy. It's very crazy. So when her water broke on Monday night, it was like nine something here on the Pacific Coast and they texted us. Tanner was like, it's go time. And we're like, yeah.

And I think you sent a video of like her in the background saying like, the water broke. And so we were very excited because she had made it within that time frame that we needed her to start delivering in. But then, like an hour and a half later, we got a text from Tanner that said, wow, that was wild. That was it. Like cryptic. I'm like, we both Jared and I were like, was it a false alarm? Like, is everything okay? And he's like, yep, everything is okay? Everything's okay. He's here. I'm like, wait. You're telling me that her water broke and she delivered the baby within two hours. And that was the case. So then they FaceTime us a little bit after. And she was in the hospital room feeding the baby. And everybody was happy and healthy. And it was just very

traumatic for her because what happened was she, her water broke. She thought that she'd have like, you know, at least seven hours. I think Emmy took about seven or eight hours, which is still pretty short for your first pregnancy. But for your second pregnancy to deliver with Within two hours is just insane. That's like something you hear from people who've had like eight children. So she was, she took a shower. She went to go pack up her stuff. And while in the closet getting her stuff, she was like, Tanner, I can't move.

And then she was like, though the baby is like on his way out right now. And it was his mom, her mom. And that was it. and they basically almost delivered the baby. The head was out by the time the paramedics came. And then the paramedics came and like pulled the body out and that was it. Insane. Emmy was sleeping the entire time.

Emmy's brother was being born in the closet. And she was just just sleeping. How crazy is this? That's what you'd hope. I mean, okay. So Tyler, you hear stories like this. You know, babies are being born from the Bachelor franchise. Yep.

I don't know how many of the people from Bachelor franchises that you've gotten to meet, but does this excite you for what the future could hold? Yeah. I mean, I would love to have a huge family one day. I would love to have my own little basketball team. So just kind of, you know, that does it. It's exciting. Yeah. It scares the crap out of me too at the same time.

It's always going to be scary until it actually happens to you. And then it's just wonderful, right? But I also just want to say, I still don't want to put any pressure for Jade to. have to come to the wedding, you know, I mean, I didn't even, I didn't talk to her about that at all. I don't want you guys to be like, oh, she's definitely going to come now. It's like, I'm, no. I mean, I'm not even, I'll be super stoked to see her there if she's there, but it's still very close to when the baby was born. And it's whatever she feels comfortable with. Oh, Ashley, you're so sweet. No, I mean, like, I do. I don't want people like down my throat being

like, you're going to make a bro, a woman get on a plane now. No, I'm not. It's all Jade's decision, and I'm not putting any pressure on her. You hear Ashley right now, I mean, she has been, she has involved herself in this franchise for years. She's invested a ton of time and effort. She's talked to me for two years on this podcast. She still gets so hyped to meet people like Tyler and get to know them and support them well. And because of a few negative comments, now Ashley is so nervous.

I am. On what she's going to say. You'll see. Everything that comes out of your mouth is scary. This is this week's deal. I want you to go on Twitter and hashtag the almost famous podcast and tag Ashley Icanetti in it. Then go to all of her Instagram photos and say something nice that you love about Ashley because we're going to get her through this. She's going to realize that the criticism will fade and we're going to love on her hard this week.

Can we do that? It's leading up to her wedding week. She deserves it. I want it for her. She would never ask for it herself. And so everybody out there listening, spread the news. This is Love on Ashley I Week. Well, that's very sweet. I definitely don't need it. But I appreciate it. And I do just want to say that Jade may have made that plan before the baby came.

But of course, it would make sense if she wanted to change her mind afterward. That's all. I'm just not a crazy friend. I don't want people who think they have a crazy friend. Tyler, Demi Lovato was at the festival. What do you know about that? I just saw her on Peter's finale that I didn't see her at all when I was there. She was there last night in the audience next to Demi Not Lovato. Yeah, a big fan of Demi Not Lovato as well.

I just met her actually prior to coming here. She's amazing. Yeah, she's super sweet. She's so sweet, so beautiful. She was awesome. Yeah. So you have, I mean, did you get to meet Demi Lovato? That's a big deal. I did not.

I get to meet Demi Lovato. I did not. I missed out on that one. he wants to date Mike. Yeah, I see that. Apparently they've been going back and forth in the DM. I see that. Uh, go for a mic. See what happens. Speaking of the DM, I know that you have a drink to have with Hannah, but Gigi Hadid did follow you and then you followed her back. And I, I don't want to make this seem like,

you know, you guys are going to date or anything, but are you going to date? Uh, we'd just follow each other. You definitely talked. We just follow each other. You haven't DMed at all. No, no, I've been busy with the show. and everything. Okay.

Well, you're not a liar. I know you're not a liar. I've been too busy with the show to send a DM. Are you kidding me, Tyler? I don't know. Gigi's is one of the many models that I'm sure is after Tyler.

Who's your celebrity crush? We love this question here on the almost famous podcast. Tells you a lot about somebody. My biggest crush ever was Jessica Alba from Into the Blue. Jessica Alba commented under Jade's picture yesterday. Really? So she may

watch The Bachelor and she may have watched you, but she is married with three kids. Yeah, but Jessica Alba Into the Blue was my biggest crush ever. Very good. Very good crush choice. That's a good one. I like that. That brings back good memories. Thanks for doing that for me.

Hey, Tyler, we have a couple other things to talk to you about, but I want to hear your thoughts. Put on your host cap for a second. We've seen the previews now to Bachelor in Paradise. Your buddies, have been there and some of the women that you know and you've met along the way what is your thoughts because ashlin i don't really know much about it and so let's spend a couple minutes now

and talk about what we can see happening in bachelor in paradise i want to start asking you after looking at the promo what's your first reaction my first reaction is dylan john paul jones and demi are going to own the beach it's it's their beach why dylan because well no one got to really see Dylan's personality. Yeah. On The Bachelor of this season. And he's incredibly funny. He's witty.

He's fun to be around. Like, he's just going to absolutely crush it. All right. We'll watch out for him. He was in the promo a good amount. Yeah. Yeah. Who was, was he wasn't the one though?

And what's your thoughts about it? Because again, you don't have any idea for certain who it was. There's the promos continue to excite me because there's a fight on the beach. Who do you think that fight was between? To be honest, I don't even know people's names besides the guys on my cast. so I can't tell you who it was. So you never watched the show before. I saw, yeah, no, that's it.

So, I mean, I've seen, I saw a little bit of Jojo season when I was dating my ex. Okay. And, like, we watched it with her family a couple times. And, like, that was the extent of my Bachelor experience. So who signed you up for the show? I did. You did! Okay, so finally, yay!

Somebody else who signed themselves up, because I signed myself up, but I feel like everybody's like, I was nominated, I was nominated, like, they were like. We're the cool. Do you want to sign? Yeah, no, I was just like, I just got done with football and got hurt and I was like finishing on my MBA. So I was just studying being a broke jock. Wait, you have an MBA?

Yeah. You have an MBA? Uh-huh. No way. Mm-hmm. Where did you come from? Jupiter. What?

That's awesome. That planet. Okay. But, no, I, um, I was just like, I was like in the middle of like taking a break from studying and I saw something for it. I was like, why the hell not? Like, the boys will think this is funny. Yeah.

And it just kind of snowballed from there. And now I'm here hanging with you guys. Oh, that's amazing. I, like, feel bad that I even said who signed you up because I'm so used to being like, well, someone says sign me up. I'm so glad I found another one of me. I was like, I'm just, you know, beat up, broke jock, trying to get my NBA. I was like, you know what, this could be fun.

And, you know, it turned out to be so much more than I ever expected. Yeah. Where do you want to go now? I mean, you have all this stuff in your favor. say let's take the following aside because the following is going to bring you an income and you're going to do some things in entertainment i'm sure there's going to be opportunities for you uh either on the franchise or outside the franchise to make money and entertainment but if all that were to go away what what is these next like few years of your life what is your dream job kind of

where do you want to go yeah no the next steps for me is uh i'm filing for my gc license so i've passed those uh the exams for that in December but my dad got six i kind of put that on the wayside and kind of helped taking care of him and all that. So I want to get my own construction company started and get that rolling. I got a partner that I'm trying to team up with. And so he could be like the eyes and be down there and I can bounce around and do what I need to do. And but also, you know, put a lot of energy and focus into ABC food tours. The thing that me and one of my best friends run in New York City.

Tell us about that. So ABC food tours is what we do is we take underprivileged kids in our area and we bring them on fitness and food excursions. and we basically just surround them by people from different career paths and kind of show them what there is in their own city and what they have access to. And it's just about getting them out of the neighborhood and seeing what there is and exploring new career opportunities because a lot of these kids, we ask them what do you want to be when they grow up. They say, I want to be a football player, I want to be a basketball player,

I want to be a rapper, which is great because that's what I wanted to be too. But there's so much more to also know about and learn about. And so that's what we try and do. And we're trying to build a curriculum for them and we want to get them in with, you know, tech building, you know, tech companies and finance. companies and other chefs and just fitness companies just to see what there is for them. That was incredible. That's a great idea. Yeah, and it's so much fun to work with kids. Like it's the most rewarding, you know, feeling.

And I mean, the other day we were, we just did it. We just got done eating pizza and we just finished the cha-cha slide in Thompson Square Park and the Lower East Side. And I'm sitting there with one of the kids eating pizza and he's like, this is the best day I've ever had. And I'm just like, holy cow, I've, I've no idea what kind of. you know impact we're having on these kids so you know everyone's been super supportive and like helping out and sponsoring more kids tours and we've been able to reach out we just did another one in Brooklyn and uh so we just we gained access to 20 more schools in Brooklyn like 27 more schools so we're going to be working with them and we got another food tour coming up with the kids in

Brooklyn and next week so it's through the schools that you kind of recruit kids to go out on these field trips yeah like the the schools will kind of set us up with the kids so we're like fourth and fifth graders mainly right now it's amazing What's the best way for people to help? Like, you know, I don't know how it's set up, but obviously watching the tour will probably be helpful or donating the tour. But can you give us a quick rundown? If somebody's listening, they go, I want to get involved in something like this, how they can help?

Yeah, no, a lot of people who have, you know, asks us how they want to help. We tell them to, basically, DM, ABC Food Tours, and tell us how they want to help. You know, a lot of people have given ideas of what they want to do and how they want to help us. And we truly believe if you want to help out, tell us what you want to do. And if we can make it work, you'll be more willing to do something for you. for us if it's something that you want to do instead of something we tell you to do but then also people can help out by sponsoring kids tours by going on our website and doing that and whatnot awesome man good for you dude uh that's going to be awesome if i can ever help you please let ashley

and i know the podcast would love to back you um it's one of the coolest things so hey uh tyler a part of this whole uh adventure includes a lot of really fun things and one of the most fun we have as a bachelor family every year is going to the i heart music fest it's something that we've done i think ashton i now for for at least three years this will probably be our fourth i'm assuming every year it brings about new stories new people we meet some of the coolest of artists this year's line up is going to be alicia keys backstreet boys kg elephant camilla cabello deppleopard french montana halsey her hooting the blowfish marshmallow mylie cyrus Mumford and Son, Stevie Oake, Tim McGraw, and the Zach Brown band, and many, many more. Tyler, I want to invite you, if you're not The Bachelor, of course, because that's still out there and it's still in the open. We don't know. But if you're not the Bachelor, I want to invite you to Las Vegas, Nevada to celebrate the Our Heart Music Fest 2019 with us.

Heck yeah, I'm there. Her will get me my feelings a little bit, so I've got to be alone while I'm watching her perform. Yeah, I'm there. Okay. Well, I hope you're the Bachelor. that point, but, you know, you have my support. I appreciate it. Yes, I'm voting for Tyler. Hey, just let everybody out there listening, no. Tickets are on sale now. Uh, so Ashley, can you get us the website, uh, where people can go and purchase these tickets? It's aXs.com. AXS.com. Sweet. Hey, we hope to see you all there. And Tyler, I hope to be able to spend some time with you. It is, it is honestly, I think Ash and I could both vouch. It is one of the coolest times of the year because we get to meet so many people who have been on the show.

and who are kind of just starting this experiment and it's a blast so please come hang out enjoy yourself it's super super cool yeah i'm there i'm there i mean i know here i am being careful about what i'm saying i would support either you as bachelor or with hannah i've been traumatized lately it's all good all right i have a couple questions for you they're they're a little out of order they're kind of things that we haven't touched on yet that i think everybody wants to know about So I'm going to go through those for the next couple of minutes. Bring it on. Are you ready?

What did you think about learning that Hannah, well, actually, not slept with Peter in the windmill. You've already pretty much explained your feelings about that. But I want to know if you thought she really needed to say that they had slept together four times during after the final rose. Um, I think, you know, she, I had no problem with that, you know, she's, she's powerful. She's empowering women to be free to speak about their sex life. I think that's important. Um, I think, you know, I'm no one to judge her because I have a pass too. So, so go for it, you know, speak as you want.

And I don't know, I had no problem with it at all. If you were engaged to her, you sure would, though. No, because, because I told her, too, when we were, when we were having our fantasy sweet date, I was like, look, I need you to figure out everything you need to figure out in these fancy suits. I don't care what you do because I've had a pass and so of you. So who am I to judge you? And there's like a song that Chris Brown sings and says, please don't judge me because if you judge me, you can get ugly before it gets beautiful.

And so I just think there's no room for me to judge her on what she's doing because if she was going to pick me at the end, I wanted her to make sure there was no second guessing and she did everything she needed to do to figure out where she wanted to be. I guess if you were engaged to her and then she said to a, America while you were engaged, that she didn't have sex twice. She actually had sex four times. That would kind of rub you the wrong way. I think she was totally fine saying that because she's single. But I think it was definitely a cue to the audience that she was single.

Yeah. No, I don't know. I don't, I've never, I was in that situation. But I think that's something that if she were engaged, we probably would have already discussed before. And I mean, like I said, I don't, I don't think I'd really take it that bad because I'm not want to judge her for any of her actions. I have a pass too.

I think that's the key right there for all of us listening and watching. We've talked about it to great extent in this podcast. So I'm not going to get into who can talk about sex, when, where, how. But the biggest thing is when you are engaged, I do think there is, and this is part of the conversation my mom and I had, there is a responsibility if your partner wants to know. They don't have to, but if they want to know, you should be as, honest with them as they want you know and in the freedom of your relationship to know that there's no judgment but for whatever reason it's going to make that relationship stronger at least you're

going to know where each other stand so i do think that as tyler just said if she was i didn't see it as necessarily by her saying it she was automatically single because i do think i'm with tyler on well if i was her fiancee we probably would have already talked about it not that i would have loved hearing it again but it would have been yeah and telling the public i think there would have been been that the part that I thought was the weirdest about this whole sex thing even outside of luke p's comments that still disrupt me to this day and disturb every ounce of my being um because he's just doubling down i don't get it anyways uh the thing that still makes me the the most confused the biggest issue i've had with all the sex talk is the fact that this is said in front of peter's parents

the same room and they were like yeah barbara was pumped Barbara was awful It's so weird right Am I alone on that Her laugh Like took over the whole audio I was cracking up Like it was just like a screech

Like it was hilarious I guess if you know they did it twice Doesn't really matter It was four times Yeah I was just thinking What's one What's the difference between one or four Yeah

I mean that's just No matter what that's weird I remember kissing on the show And Ashton I've talked about it And having the family watch and, like, you can hear it. Like, ugh. That was a mic drop for sure.

Rough. Anyways, that's the weirdest part for me from this whole thing. The thing I had the biggest issue with is that her, we had to, like, sit there and watch the parents, like, laugh and awkwardly, like, shreel as this was being discussed. Yeah. 11 weeks ago, it was about 11 weeks ago, that you were dumped by Hannah. How long did it take you to recover from that heartbreak? And did you really fully think you did?

Um, I think it's something that's still kind of ongoing, the more you see her, kind of, you know, it still brings out those. Yeah, it's your heart drop when you saw her come out last night or you came out to her? I was, I was super excited to see her. There was, you know, I wasn't, it was, I was just ecstatic to see her and be around her because she brings so much great energy. And I guess one thing I was so attracted to is I'm more of a low-key, laid-back kind of person. And she's such a fireball. Yeah. It's a nice balance. Yeah, it makes it a lot of fun. And, but what was your question? I don't know. It was how long? to take to recover from your heartbreak? Do you think that you actually did? I don't know. I think it's still something that's, you know, ongoing and I'm learning from. You know, it's, I don't know. It's how long

to take to recover? I don't know. It's something that still, you know, I see or I still feel certain ways. And, and, uh, but I'm definitely, put it this way. I almost lost my dad. And I've known him for 26 years, you know. I knew Hannah for the duration I was on the show. You know, almost losing my dad, I knew I was going to be able to get over this, get over this hump, you know. It was, it was definitely a hump to get over. But definitely, like, you know, think the world and feel so much for this girl. So really put things into perspective. Yeah, yeah. Tyler, with two things, we can talk offline about this too. But I think it was a week before, I started the Bachelor. My dad had triple bypass unexpectedly. And I wanted the show thinking he was, you know, he wasn't going to

make it because he had had some issues in the past. And we talked about it a few weeks ago on this show of how kind of hard that was, but yet why I decided to still do the show and kind of how actually great it all ended up being for me as a distraction from some tough stuff. So if you ever want to chat, get my number after the podcast. I'd love to talk through how I managed all that and what I saw was good and bad and ugly about it. No, definitely. I truly appreciate that. That's amazing.

How's your dad today? He's doing much better. He's a fighter. So he's killing it. So your parents were divorced, but I felt like they seemed like to have a good relationship on hometowns. So, you know,

so much came out of my dad being sick. And it's truly, you know, it was a tough thing for him to go through and he's still having his complications and he's fighting. But it's been such a blessing in disguise. You know, kind of got him on the straight and narrow.

path and doing the right thing, but it also brought our family so much more closer together. And my mom and dad were able to really put a lot of differences aside. And it's so amazing to see, like, they do dinners together all the time. They do so much stuff together. And they help each other out with work. My mom's a real estate agent. My dad's a general contractor. Perfect. So it's like they're able to help each other out, work together. And it's really, it's really amazing to see, you know, just how everything's kind of come full circle and how they can have a great relationship still. And I think it showed on the show. I mean. It definitely did. didn't think they were divorced yeah no that hometown was so special and i'm so grateful and thankful for

that because that's something i can always have documented and save with my pops you know i've always had a professor in college who told me you should you should sit down with your folks and you should interview them and like ask them tough questions and about you know their life and how growing up and it's something i've always wanted to do and the show kind of gave me an opportunity to do that so that's so nice i hear that hometowns like those conversations that get cut down so so much that you really have like an hour conversation with each parent is that true yeah no it was a pretty long talk with him and uh it was one of the best talks i've ever had with him and i owe a lot of that to hand it because she i've always been someone that doesn't really open up at all kind of just you know my

just always been very guarded and protect myself and don't really show emotion to a lot of people and uh hana really pulled a lot of that out of me and really forced me to to be vulnerable and to open up and that allowed me to have such great talks with my mom and my dad during that during that time and I literally had probably one of the best conversations I ever had my pops that night. That's so nice. Isn't it wild how that happens? I mean, during this whole show,

is you feel, I do feel like it brings out a whole new side of you. I mean, I've had a great relationship with my parents my whole life. And it was the show that I think really allowed us as friends and as a family to get to know each other even better because they had to, it was forced for them to be in these romantic moments with me

and to be my counsel and my guys. guide and Tyler I think for you we saw that during your hometown when your dad told you though and I want to hear what your perspective is on us now that Hannah was your wife she goes that's your wife and now that this is all kind of coming full circle what is this thoughts on you guys you know at least giving it a shot yeah you know I think you know like I said earlier there's we don't need to set too many high expectations on what we're going through we just need to have a drink and see where it goes from there I think we need to take it like a normal person takes on a first date you know, and just see what happens and go from there.

And that's kind of all the pressure I want to put on it. I don't think she needs pressure. I don't think I need pressure. I think we just need to kind of take it easy and just enjoy each other's company and see what happens. Yeah, that makes sense. So has your dad had any, you know, has your family had any kind of direct advice for you here in the last few days at least?

About like Hannah? Just life. I mean, all this happening and Hannah and everything going on. No, I mean, they're all just super proud of me and how I've conducted. myself and but i mean it's all a testament to them and how they've raised me and and my two little brothers you know i'm super thankful and grateful for them and my dad's always been a very humbling you know person for me he's always knows how to put me in my place and make sure you know i i i take care of other people and stuff like that so he just you know he always says you know make sure you

take your time out of your day to to be good everyone who comes by you and sees you and and just be humble good for you man that's awesome Ashley, I'll keep, I'll let you go. Keep going. I just want to make sure we poured it in a little bit because I think that's such a cool thing he brought up is how close this experience actually brings you to your family or how it can bring you so close to your family.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. Okay, Tyler. So Jed was one of your better friends on the show. What's your friendship with him now? You saw him for the first time since the season yesterday? I didn't see him. You didn't see him last night.

You know, we touched space a little bit, you know, but there hasn't been much said between each other. And, you know, he's kind of, I think he just needs his space. I think he just needs his space in his time right now, and there's a time that we'll talk and, you know, kind of talk about what happened and what's going on. And, you know, he's got, you know, some things he needs to figure out and take care of on his end. So being that you haven't talked to him very much, I'm assuming you don't know what it meant when Hannah said 4-4-4 in the text message? No idea.

Okay. That's a mystery that none of us will know, but it seems to be a secret code for something. for Jed when it comes to girls that he's dating. And then did you think that, like, let's be honest here, did you cringe a little bit when he brought the guitar out for the proposal? Oh, and laughs all around. Um, yeah. The answer is.

Yes, Tyler, come on, dude. No, it was weird. Yeah, you know, I think there was, you know, that time right there he could have spent just focusing on him and her. Yeah. And I think he did. I think music is just his way. of expressing himself the best.

Yeah. You know, maybe that's how he feels about it. And I don't know, to reach his own. How did you feel about... No, John Mayer would never pull that stunt. I'm just saying it there, and he's got a lot going for him. That was weird. That was weird.

Yeah, yeah. What do you think about him referring to saying that he had won the show instead of the fact that he was engaged when he was talking with his friends in Nashville? I think that's, you know, that's a very tough, you know, a tough, you know, a tough way to put how the show ended for you. I think it kind of puts it in the context of it being a competition. Totally. When it shouldn't be,

it should be about building a relationship with somebody. I truly believe that's how a lot of people took this. And like, for instance, Luke saying, I loved you after knowing Hannah for 12 minutes, like I think that was just all competition base. And I think there's an element of the show because obviously,

you know, 30 guys competing for one girl, you know, there is competition. based to it, but it should be about building a relationship. And so, yeah, saying you won is definitely not the best way to go about saying how you just got engaged to Hannah. You're 26.

You're one of the biggest heartthrobs in the country now. And you seem to be wanting to get married. You still want to get married right now? Yeah. I mean, if my dad, like right now. My dad always says it'll slap you in the face. You know, and you'll know. Yeah.

And so if it happens, you know, if it comes tomorrow, great. If it comes a few years from now, you know, so I'll be, so I'm just, you know, taking it. I take every day, day by day because you never know what's going to happen. He's going to walk into your life or where it goes from here. There's so many guys your age on social media apps or like dating apps. And they're saying, I just had to yell at my brother to get off Tinder. Yeah. Why?

Ryan, if you're listening, stay off that thing. Just because you don't need it. Like, I believe in, like, building organic relationships, although The Bachelor is not the most organic relationship. But I was like, you don't need to be doing that. You need to go be a regular kid to go meet, you know, girls in your college and date the right way. You don't need to be on these apps dating people. And it's just, I don't think it's a good look or a good thing to be doing.

My friend, I bring it up because my friend. There are some sex stories from it. Oh, there's so many. I don't think we can, you know, crap on dating apps here, but I do like the way that you're trying to promote people just like talking and communicating in real life and not having to rely on the back and forth via text message. I think that's kind of what you're saying, right?

Exactly. But there's so many guys out there that my friends, my single friends will go on dates with, they'll be on the apps. It seems like they're looking for somebody to date. And then in real life, they'll say, I'm not looking for anything serious. And they'll tell them this on like the first date.

And I'm just glad that you're not one of them. I think those apps, too, like a lot of it has to do with instant gratification. You can swipe right and you like somebody. And if they match you, it's like, oh, cool, someone likes me, you know. And I think that has to do a lot with it. Ego stroking. Yeah. Ego stroking.

It's a good way to put it. My last question and then, Ben, I'll have you give your last questions. I don't think you're going to like mine because you're too humble for this. but do you feel like Hannah asking you out last night hinges on your chance of being The Bachelor because now people are going to want to see you end up with Hannah more and have her get her happy ending than you be The Bachelor. I don't know. I haven't really put too much thoughts into being The Bachelor.

I need to sit down and think about all this. I mean, everything's been a firestorm since last night. So, yeah, I have no idea. I just kind of taking a day by day and seeing what happens. and we'll have our drink and we'll see where it goes. But, you know, if that's what deters me from being the bachelor, then it's not meant to be. It's whatever it happens, it's supposed to happen the way it's supposed to.

And I'll end with this. What planet are you from? Jupiter. Ben. Tyler, I don't have a lot of questions to follow up with you. We like to give every kind of fan favorite at the end of the season this opportunity. Because, you know, with the hundreds of thousands of people, that listen to the podcast.

We do have a platform to speak on. And we don't take that lightly. I want to give you the chance, Tyler, to answer this question. And then we'll say goodbye to you. Tyler, who is the man that you want to be? Who is the man that I want to be? Yeah, who do you want to become? What do you want your legacy to be?

Would maybe be a better way of asking it? Just one that is able to take care of his family and generations to be. and one to, you know, spread love and show what, you know, how great love can be. And I don't know, I'd just be a good example, lead by example, and I don't know. That's the man I want to be is, I think it's undefined right now. I think it's writing itself as I go. And so, I mean, two years ago, I never thought I'd be doing this today. I mean, the man I am today.

And two years from now might be completely different than the man I want to be now. It's all unwritten and I'm just enjoying the ride and seeing where it goes. Well, man, you definitely have a brand new platform to explore all of this with. As we talked about earlier, don't take that lightly. I encourage you to start to process who you want to become, where you want this to go, what you want this to do, and what decisions will be made here. Really, in the next month or so, that could completely change your future forever. But until then, Tyler, you're a good dude.

Thanks for coming on the podcast. Thanks for sharing your heart with us. Thanks for being extremely good looking so that my phone can buzz all night last night. But most importantly, man, I'm wishing you the absolute best. Please do not hesitate to reach out or chat with Ashley and I about anything. With that, ladies and gentlemen, that was Tyler Cameron on the Almost Famous Podcast. Yay. Thank you, guys.

Thank you. What a podcast this has been. What a season this has been. Until next time, we're going to be sitting. here talking in the off season well i guess we don't really have an off season bachelor in paradise is coming up soon make sure you continue to tune in to the almost famous podcast to get all the updates behind the scenes exclusives and interviews with the current contestants right here right here at the almost famous podcast hannah you did great we're sorry you didn't end in love with that

we just hope the best for you in the future if that's with Tyler on this little drink day or if that's with any of these guys or if it's with a guy that you don't quite know yet just know the almost famous podcast fully is behind you. I want to thank my co-host, Ashley Ikenetti, who convinced me quite honestly that Hannah was going to be a great Bachelorette. Thank you. I was right. I have got good people reading skills. Hi. You really do. Ashley, I think this is a great season of The Bachelorette. It was fantastic. So great. I'm all in support of Hannah being the Bachelorette 2020. I feel like most of America would be with me on that. but I guess we'll have to see who is on the next season of The Bachelor

and if anyone could possibly be more rootable and lovable as ruble and lovable as Hannah. I want to ask you, Ashley, before we head out here, I think all of the storyline surrounding this season has kind of overshadowed how this season actually ended. And listeners, I want your opinion as well because I want to give you some honest feedback for me. I woke up this morning and I watched last night

not feeling that sad for Hannah for whatever reason, even though the ending to the season was incredibly sad. But I didn't feel as sad for Hannah as I probably should have because there's so many other storylines that I felt I was trying to process. Do you feel the same way? I think Hannah has been so strong throughout this process that we just think she can take another blow. We are like, oh, she's going to handle herself.

She's so kick-ass. We don't have to worry about Hannah. and it's actually really sad. She went through all of this. She became the Bachelorette. She got that opportunity and she didn't end up with anyone in the end. So, yeah, I do feel bad.

I have no doubt that she's going to find her person and it's going to work out the way it's supposed to. But, I mean, as an ending, and for somebody we've just rooted on so much and who wanted to be loved fiercely, it is kind of sad to see that didn't happen. I think it's a good thing. good lesson for all of us. So listeners, let's take a second, because Ashley brings up a great point

is you probably have people in your own life who have just shown incredible strength, that they don't let any emotion and they don't let their issues kind of fall in anybody else. They kind of take it all in themselves and they move through it. We know people like that. It's in all of our lives. And this time, take a little second. Think about who those people are and wrap your arms around them because it's unfair to them that we don't show them the support even when you lead with a humble courage and a humble strength and a humble confidence we still need support and it's oftentimes the squeaky people who are begging for attention that get the most attention and the Hannah Browns of the world who just got told that her fiance somebody that she cared

about had a girlfriend for the most part throughout the show she's now sitting there today day, once this is all done, processing it all. And I guarantee she needs a love and support that we all deserve in moments like this. So reach out to Hannah Brown. Reach out to Ashley Ikenetti on Ashley Icanetti's love week. We're going to show her so much support and so much love. But Hannah Brown, thank you for a great season. You've been great. Also, I want to give a thank you to Dunkin Donuts. Shout out to Duncan Donuts for making our morning a little sweeter. You guys know that I'm the hugest Duncan fan. Me and Jared truly run on Duncan. And I want to thank them for teasing me with bagels and donuts in front of me this entire podcast when I really

shouldn't be eating them because my wedding is really coming up close. But let's face it, not only do they have the best donuts, but they also serve, well, the best coffee. It is the best coffee in the world, hands down. Every other coffee is incomparable. No, except for it generous. Yes. Don't it. Why do I always do this to you, Ben? It's very awkward because I'm such a Duncan fan and there's a chance that they might be doing a little something for our wedding because Jared and I have been so outspoken about them but I love generous I love generous yeah well hey we can be fans of both there's a lot of coffee to be spread in this world we're all drinking it or Duncan I'm a fan of you as well um to say it's the best coffee well I'll have to let that

be decided by the Ashley I Kennedys of the world but until then visit your local Duncan donuts today it's worth it and we have one more thank you thank you to Bennett, the executive producer on The Bachelor. He is the best. He helps with this show a lot. And BIP looks awesome. Congrats to our producer friend, Louis, for taking over over there in Mexico. That's right.

Yeah, we do. Every time we want to pause at the end of a season and say thanks to everybody that works on this show that helps us out to get the episodes early, to get the behind-the-scenes exclusives. Also, thank you the people at IHeart, the Eastons and Marks and Amies and Danielle's and Tories of the world for helping us continue this podcast in a fashion that is successful and fun. I want to also give a time to say thanks to my co-host, Ashley Kennedy, for dealing with me

for another season, for breaking down this season, for taking all of this on in the midst of planning a beautiful wedding. So please, don't forget to love on her this week. What a podcast it's been. season it's been we look forward to talking to you soon about bachelor and paradise one of our favorite times of the year with that i've been ben hey ben what planet do you come from warsaw indiana warsaw that sounds like a planet not really okay but you come from the same planet that that tyler does i've been ashley got bye guys see it follow the ben and ashley i almost famous

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