The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Let Someone Else Solve Your Dating Problems
Episode Date: August 16, 2025Are you struggling to find time to date? Striking out when it comes to swiping? Fed up with one-and-done dates?Kelly Bensimon is telling you why a matchmaker is the way to go! From extensive vetting t...o relationship coaching, Kelleher International is the REAL deal when it comes to matchmaking! Plus, Kelly goes straight to the source - what should men and women lighten up on when it comes to dating? The expert's answer might surprise you! Email us at: IDOPOD@iheartradio.com or call us at 844-4-I Do Pod (844-443-6763)Follow I Do, Part 2 on Instagram and TikTokSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious.
Wait a minute, Sam.
Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.
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This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot.
He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her.
Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
Now, hold up.
Isn't that against school policy?
That seems inappropriate.
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Welcome back to I do part two.
It's your celebrity mentor, Kelly, Ben Simone.
Just like you guys, I'm out there dating in my I do part two era.
And if you're single and dating like me,
you know that sometimes it's hard to meet great eligible men when you have a busy schedule.
And dating apps can be super disappointing.
So I wanted to explore a conversation around professional matchmakers.
The company has been around.
for over 35 years, and they've been featured on Good Morning America, the Today Show,
Entertainment Tonight, and more, they are the real deal.
Please welcome Jennifer Wills, President Chief Growth Officer with Kelleher International.
Jennifer, I'm super excited to talk to you.
Kelleher International came highly recommended by someone associated with this podcast
who had really successful dates.
So tell our audience a little bit about Kelleher International.
How long have you been in business and how did you get involved?
Okay.
Well, thanks for the nice lead-in.
So Kelleher has been around for almost 40 years.
We're one of the oldest and largest players in the field.
We specialize in elite or executive matchmaking services.
So people who are successful but who are ready to be intentional about how they're approaching,
finding this next relationship, whether it's the first, the second,
the third, whatever it might be, but they've decided to prioritize this and focus on it the way they
would any other important aspect of their life. I've been with the firm since 2016. I kind of
actually fell into it a little bit. I'm an attorney and have a finance background. And I had decided
to leave my previous position as in-house counsel for a company in New York. And a friend of mine
was working here and invited me in to meet with the founders.
which I did for an entire day, and then they were stuck with me.
After that, I just fell in love with the business.
I fell in love with them.
There are really very few things that you can do in this world
where you're truly transforming people's lives
and having such a meaningful impact on not only their romantic life,
but their overall relationships and happiness in the world.
So we're going to get into that because you guys are twofold.
But I wanted to address one thing.
It's the embarrassment and the shame that we're seeing of matchmakers.
And if a matchmaker is, I think a matchmaker does more vetting.
And it makes you feel better that there is a third party kind of, you know, being a part of this,
especially with someone like you who you're not only the third party matchmaking, but also
you're, you know, counseling your clients, which is great.
But tell me about some of the perks.
of using a professional matchmaker?
Well, there are a lot of perks to it.
There's the efficiency aspect.
Most people that we work with,
they are very strong in their professional situation.
They may have great families already,
but they don't have a lot of time.
And it's really the one thing that nobody can recreate.
So providing a level of efficiency,
meaning that when we're making these introductions,
they're targeted.
We've essentially gone on coffee dates
with the candidates, so to speak.
We've met them.
We've interviewed them.
We've background checked.
They've had to go through
an extensive diligence period with us.
So we know them.
So there's going to be a level of presumptive alignment
on fundamental values that really is an open issue.
If you meet somebody just out in the world or online,
they're essentially representing to you whatever it is that they think
that you want to hear, whereas we are really digging into.
to who people are asking a lot of open-ended questions
and trying to understand.
There's also the accountability piece.
When you meet somebody in another format,
they can just disappear, right?
It's much more difficult to do that with a matchmaker
because we're following along and they're accountable to us
and we're taking feedback.
So there's really nowhere to hide.
But then, and you kind of alluded to this,
there's the advocacy piece, right?
We are a trusted advisor
in exactly the same way that a financial advisor or a legal advisor would be,
we're just handling a different aspect of somebody's life.
It's no less important, but we are the advocate.
So we sit between the client and a candidate,
and there are times where we can facilitate something that maybe on the surface,
somebody wouldn't say, no, that makes sense.
But if we know both parties, we can help make things come together
that might not happen without that level of advocacy in there.
I love advocacy.
I really love that. And I also love that, you know, there are these ultra high net worth individuals who are laser focused on their work, you know, whether, and they've been doing this for years. And the thought of dating is super daunting. So when you are, you know, with your company, with Calhara, what do you get for it? Like, what are you getting? How many dates? Like, what are we getting?
So one of the beautiful things about this is it's highly customizable.
We want to craft a membership that addresses that particular client's needs.
So for us, we don't cap introductions.
There are a lot of other firms out there that are pay X and you get this set number of introductions.
To us, that creates an immediate conflict of interest.
People are saying, do I take this one?
Do I use this chip?
Oh, no, we have to produce this person.
there's no cap on matches with us. Frankly, every time we introduce somebody, it's either a home run
or it's a learning proposition for both the firm and the team and the client. So it's another
way of collecting data that's incredibly valuable as we continue to refine the search.
That is amazing. I love how you're talking about this. I mean, like literally loring me in,
data advocacy authenticity authority i'm like i am like literally right here with you um so we're talking
about um the different parts of it and i really like the idea that you guys don't say like if you
have like you know 10 dates oh my god you're eight like what's your what's going to be your plan i
really like that that's brilliant by the way so coaching so we've talked about like the dating
part, but like, what about the coaching part? This is the part that I'm super interested in.
Well, I'm sure anybody who's ever been in a relationship will tell you that relationships
are not linear. And very often, particularly when we're not first timers, we've been married
or been in a significant relationship before or been in multiple significant relationships,
we all have patterns, right? And we all establish narratives and beliefs in our head that may or may not
be accurate. And so the purpose of the coaching is multi-fold. First of all, it's a way that we sort
of clear the slate from the beginning of a relationship and say, okay, what are your real goals here?
What's going to make you happy in this? Do you want to get married again? Do you not want to get
married again? What is the ultimate goal for this relationship that you're seeking? And then what has
been a challenge for you in the past? And why do you suppose it's been a challenge? And let's talk about
the people that you've selected for these relationships, why you were focused on certain
attributes, and maybe how that played into the challenges that you subsequently experienced
in the relationship. And then as you go through the process with us, again, there's nothing
linear about this. So as you're establishing a relationship with a new partner, there are going
to be triggers. There's something's going to come up that says, oh, that reminds me of
okay, but it's not him.
So let's talk about why that's happening.
So speaking of triggers, should people be fully healed from divorce or loss of a spouse
before they associate with a matchmaker?
Or what are your thoughts on that?
So I think fully healed is a really interesting term because I think all of us walk through
life not fully healed, right?
We're all still learning and growing as we go.
So while somebody needs to have, you know, sort of experienced the acute part of that,
and somebody shouldn't go, you know, it's not a direct line.
But that's also part of the coaching.
And there are definitely people that we, as we're meeting them and we see that maybe
these emotions are too raw or they're not really ready to attract or welcome this new
partner, we may say, let's do six months of just coaching before we start the matching
process so we can really help people prepare to get there. So is there like a check-in? Do you check in like,
you know, every couple of weeks after two dates? Like what's the kind of, what's the check-in
process? And is there one? During the matching process, you mean? Yes. Yes. So every client works
directly with a team and that team is multiple people. But we do, depending on the scope of the
search and the intricacies of the search, there can be anything from a standing biweekly call to a
standing weekly call, and many times they're over Zoom because even though it's not the same as
in person, it is better than a phone call.
You can kind of...
Is that accountability again, you guys are like really...
Oh, people have to be...
Don't be linear in relationships and definitely be accountable.
Yeah, and people have to be ready to be a partner to us and to be, and have agency in this
process.
That's one of the most interesting things about matchmaking.
It is in no way a unilateral...
effort. We can't do it without substantial input and participation from the client.
Wait, I love that you just said that you have agency in this process. I love that. I mean,
we're talking, we're not talking about like swiping. We're talking about real partnership.
I mean, this is, well, first of all, you are unbelievably bright and very articulate. And I really,
really love the way that you're talking about it.
I mean, you know, if I were working with you,
I would have a definite sense of ease and comfort
because you are definitely at the helm of this.
And that's just like very cool.
So what about living in a big city?
Like what about the people that live in small towns?
I'm from Rockford, Illinois.
Like, you know, I mean, is it just a big city folk
or is it the country mouse too?
well it depends on the person right so you have it's really a question of addressable audience and
i apologize sometimes i make that take all the romance out of this and i don't intend to be no no not
at all i just think it's really i really appreciate that and i think for ultra high net worth
individuals they really appreciate that because that's how they're they're constantly
strategizing they're constantly making major decisions and i think it's very smart to approach
relationships in the same way. It's the same mindset. It's just a different thing. It's just a
different thing. And along those lines, when you talk about where are these people located,
there's addressable audience questions and metrics questions, right? If you're in a small town
and you have a fairly specific type of person that you're looking for, there's a small, by definition,
it's just math. There is a smaller number of them in a small town. There are likely going to be
more of them in a large city. And single people do tend, single successful people do tend to be
in larger cities. But that's also part of what we do before we ever engage with a client is
understand what level of travel or flexibility does their lifestyle allow for. So is this somebody
who lives in a small town and has no intention of leaving or traveling to meet their person?
Well, that presents a level of challenge. And that we're very candid and very upfront. If somebody is
not somebody that we feel we have visibility to success, we won't ask them to make the investment
financial, emotional, or otherwise, right? Because they're not invested. Right.
My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well,
wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota,
it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast. So we'll find out soon. This
This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot.
He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her.
Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
Now hold up, isn't that against school policy?
That sounds totally inappropriate.
Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age.
It's even more likely that they're cheating.
He insists there's nothing between them.
I mean, do you believe him?
Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet.
So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really
cheated with his professor or not.
To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime
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So, you know, it's interesting because I was, I wanted to ask you, you know,
with that.
So like work from home.
You know, we have a lot of different people outside of just like the towns, which is
obviously challenging, like you're saying, just because of the actual bodies of people.
But work from home.
Like a lot of people are just like, I've been working from home.
I'm on the phone from whatever it is, you know, seven in the morning until,
nine o'clock at night, like, I'm just too tired.
Like, how do you coerce people to get out, off the couch and, you know, into the, you know,
into the bar or into the coffee shop?
How do you get them there?
Well, hopefully there's not a lot of coercion necessarily.
But it's, that's, again.
Sometimes people are like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I want to date.
And then they're like, no, no, no, I don't.
Well, and that's, there is a lot that goes into us deciding to partner.
with somebody, we actually decline more people than we accept, which from a business standpoint,
sounds incredibly bizarre to a lot of people. But this is an industry where if you just sort of
haphazardly throw it against the wall and see what sticks, you're not going to be around for 40
years. You're not. So I want to know, do you guys, does your team consider the person that you
think that is good for me or do you just listen to what I say like if I say
Jennifer I want tall dark and handsome with a fat bank account and you're like
never heard that before I want to get them finance nobody else wants that so like I know
so is it just is it you guys are just like okay I'm feeling we're going through this
questionnaire we're seeing what you guys are doing we've listened to what you've had to say
or do you guys say like you know what like this other guy he might be really great he's not he's not dark
and handsome but he's you know blonde and viking like you know what i mean like is that do you guys
take those kind of leaps or we do because this is again this is a partnership right and the basis
of any good partnership is trust right so we're not by any stretch of the imagination going to
ignore our clients preferences but we are going to really try to understand
stand before we even engage with anybody, okay, what is it about that that makes you want that
person? What is it about tall? Now, you're tall. So that makes sense, right? But when a-
I don't like too tall. No, no, no, no, no. I don't want to be a five-two or five-three. And she
says to me, he has to be six-three. Tell me why. Right. You can walk around a six-inch heels all day
every day. If you can do it, God bless you. But, you know, why? What is that? Well, my father was
really tall. It just gives me a sense of safe. Okay. All right, now I'm starting to get the picture of
why. So maybe this person doesn't have to be as tall, but they're probably, if they're five, ten,
they shouldn't be narrow-shouldered and slight. They should probably be. So yes, so we do work through
the whys behind what people are asking for. And again, you're hiring a company to be your advocate and
to be your partner, the basis of which is trust.
And if we have gone through the process and we've gotten to know somebody and based on
their personality, their sense of humor, their values, all the things.
We say, you don't know what you don't know.
Right.
A girl's got to eat.
Go to dinner.
What's on?
Right.
And that's we've seen so much success through people stepping outside of their comfort zone
and being a little playful and adventurous and having fun with it.
So just to give you like a.
a couple of tips about me.
So I am 57 years old and I'm from Rockford, Illinois.
So I'm from a small town.
I moved to New York when I was 15 to start modeling and I went to Trinity College
in Hartford and Columbia.
I started working in publishing.
I went on television.
I had two beautiful, I got married to an older gentleman.
I have two beautiful girls.
I had to get divorced because I just needed, I told.
myself that I just needed a better
life for my children.
You know, he just, and I always say
that he just wasn't the right tool for the right job.
He's an amazing, super creative,
but I was looking for, I'm from
Rockford, Illinois. Like, you don't get more
Midwestern than that. And I was looking
for those real Midwestern
values, you know, just like my father
and my twin brother. And
it's interesting because a lot of the
guys that I meet are like,
you go out a lot.
You're like a big party girl. I'm like,
I have a very busy professional life, but I have raised two girls on my own, and you can't raise
girls on your own by being out at night.
This does not work.
The math does not math.
No.
I'm like, well, that's really great for you, but I'm usually in, you know, home by, you know,
830, you know, working, doing whatever I am doing with them.
And so it's fascinating to hear a lot of people when they, especially when guys meet me,
originally they think that I'm something that I'm not so you know I also have this one very very
big trait where every single guy literally and I'm not this is not like an every single guy
I date every single man that I have ever dated has had a wandering compass or cheaters upon cheaters
upon cheaters and if they're not cheaters they're not making sure that I've
feel safe. So I want the Brady Bunch for my kids, even though, you know, they're older and,
you know, later on they're going to have children and I want to have, I want to have a family
for them and for their kids. Like, that's what I want. What are your thoughts?
So. Go ahead, Jennifer. What do you? Go. So what are the other attributes that are common in the
people that you've been with? And is there, I hate to say it like this, but there's sometimes that
sort of stereotypes or stereotypes for a reason. There's the Master of the Universe stereotype where
there's a lot of power and a lot of prestige. And, you know, if that is the type of person
that solely that you've been attracted to, you know, is there a correlation between who you've
sought out and some of those behaviors that are obviously not ideal in a relationship, particularly
not one with you? I mean, I guess, you know, the first, you know, the person that I
you know, lean into would be like, you know, I had a wonderful father figure who was a provider
and he was an, you know, he was an amazing, well educated and always was a thought provoker. And I
am attracted to those kind of men. But what happens is that when those kind of men meet me,
I become their concierge. I become, or they'll be like, oh, let's go to that party. And then
they're like, you know, talking to people at the party. And I'm like, is this,
Are you guys? Are you doing business right now? Are you networking?
If I'm not networking, please don't network. Right. Yeah.
So I basically attract users.
Let's just call a spade a spade, Jennifer. Come on. That's, you don't need more data. They're users.
Well, and so I'm not, this is not a plug. But that's, again, one of the things that's
helpful when you're being represented by a matchmaking company is they don't necessarily know who you
are when they decide that they want to meet you they it's not unusual for us to use a pseudonym if
somebody is well known right i mean we really try to like mr big kind of but not really
but we really try to get a genuine beat on interest versus oh my god she's incredibly connected
and she's had this really interesting life and i see where this could take me right and you want
somebody who their success super successful and have a lot of their own things going on you don't
need somebody to be doting on you at two o'clock on tuesday you have enough going on you want a
partnership somebody who respects who you are but that's in no way a driver for why they'd want to
meet you i also think that people see kindness for weakness people are like oh she's you know
friendly and fun and has a lot of energy so therefore she's weak how are you with boundaries
do you have good boundaries do you enforce your boundaries i have personal boundaries for my own
self i guess i'm just i'm just you know i'm just not watching out for people i'm not like
hey what are you doing right now like i'm not like i'm not like checking in on what they're doing
i'm not like it's nine o'clock like why haven't you called me in the past five minutes i just you know
i just not like that um so it doesn't mean that i don't have boundaries it just means i am
not, you know, I already raised two girls.
You don't need to micromanage somebody else.
No, I want them to be like, hey, you look great.
Yeah.
I was like, you do to be like, you didn't check in on me, therefore you don't like me.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, and that's finding somebody whose values and lifestyle and approaches to a relationship align with yours.
And those are when you meet somebody on an app or the friend of the friend who says, well, you're single and you're single.
I'm going to put you guys together because very often that's the extent of the research they've
done as they know both people are single.
Again, that's where having this trusted advisor sitting between you and somebody you're going
to meet to really get a feel for, how many relationships have you been?
Tell us about your relationship history.
What happened?
Oh, there was infidelity, who's?
What caused that?
if it was her
did you have any
were you not present
were you not paying attention
right
you doing something
so we actually
dig into the past
not
not to shame anybody
and not to bring up
bad memories
but to understand again
the patterns
the things that didn't work out
and who is this person
and how do they view
and value relationships
were they the one who left
and this is now their fourth marriage
did they leave
every time and why. So I love that because, you know, we're hearing a lot of people talk about
like trauma bonding and what you're doing is that you're not trauma bonding. You're saying
this person has had this situation in her past and this person has had this situation in her past
and these are the lessons that we learned from that versus like I had like, I'll, I mean,
every single time someone's like, ask me if I've ever been cheated on me. I'm like, I yes, I attract
cheaters. And they're like, oh, yeah, me too. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, this is not that moment.
And then I'm just like, I just could totally turn off. I'm just like, I cannot, if you're asking me
a really, you know, super sensitive question that I do not want to talk about, then please do
not try to try to move on about how someone cheated on you. That just doesn't work for me.
Yeah. It really, really like sets me off. Yeah. I mean, I think that, you know, bringing a professional
matchmaker in, you know, in 45 and widowed divorce, I think that people are, this is really,
really beneficial.
Like, what are your thoughts on, on that?
Obviously, I agree, because this is what I do.
But also, if you look at the trajectory of-
I concur, you're a lawyer.
I should.
But if you look at the trajectory of apps, right, they came out, 10, 15 years ago, whatever it was,
they've essentially commoditized people and commoditized relationships, right?
there's no there's no incentive for these companies to get people into relationships they lose
they lose the the revenue frankly if they get you into a relationship then you're no longer on
the app it's right well it's also when people hear that ding it's you know it's a serotonin
like every single thing it's like serotonin serotonin that's not serotonin for me my phone dings on a
own. I don't need any more dinging. What makes me feel good is that when someone's like,
I hope you have the best day or says something like, I'm really proud of you, you know,
you're going to be great. Like those kind of like words of affirmation. That's not, we're not talking
about love language, but just kind of consistent, the consistency of you're going to be great
today is just something that's really nice to hear. Like I don't need like, you're hot.
You're not like. I just need someone to be like, you. I just need someone to be like, you.
you got this.
Yeah.
It just is like, I need the calm.
I don't need the serotonin.
Like, I already have the serotonin.
Well, it's highly gamified, right?
Everybody is, it's swiping for the sake of swiping without any intention at all.
Right.
Right.
And it's funny.
So you said what you, what you just said, so many women who are successful and
independent, they want somebody to come in and say, you've got this.
And sometimes to say,
I've got this.
Don't worry about making the reservation.
Don't worry about figuring this.
I've got this.
I've got that.
Right?
Oh, like, have everything handled?
Oh, my God.
I'm like literally, I'm like a puppy.
Like, I'm ready, ready for duty.
It's true.
And dating as a successful man and dating as a successful women,
they both have their challenges, but they're different, right?
For women, most women who are highly successful have gotten that way
because they've got it.
I've got this.
Don't worry.
I've got it.
I can do that.
I can do everything.
I've got it all.
And so when they finally are with somebody that allows them to embrace the part of them
that doesn't have to have it 24-7, it's like, wow, that's amazing.
Somebody else to say, you know, we're all making the dinner reservations.
We're all making, you know, planning the trip, the this, the that, and for someone else to go, no.
I want you to sit back and enjoy.
You're fine.
Oh, this is...
Darn. Right?
Like, wait a minute.
Right?
And for men, they're used to people wanting something from them.
Okay, what does this person want?
Right.
They're being nice to me.
They want something.
Right.
My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious.
Oh, wait a minute, Sam.
Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.
Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon.
This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot.
He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her.
Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
Now, hold up.
Isn't that against school policy?
That sounds totally inappropriate.
Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age.
And it's even more likely that they're cheating.
He insists there's nothing between them.
I mean, do you believe him?
Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him,
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So we're seeing some trends in dating.
Can you highlight some of those
that you think should just disappear forever?
The first one that should disappear
is the text-based relationship.
And we are very, very,
or we try to be very strict.
about there's still human nature and we can wag our fingers all we want and sometimes people just
don't listen but we really don't want people engaging in in text communication for an extended
period of time our expectation when we connect people is that they actually connect by phone not this way
but actually by phone within a day or two and they plan a date and if they're not in the same location
meet by Zoom will help facilitate who's traveling where dates people are available we want people
to get in front of each other so i like to text because i am a writer so i'm always you know i love
to say i love to text and i also love you know i have two daughters who were being raised during
that era and where i couldn't i didn't want to be on the phone so i did to spend a lot of time
texting right and unfortunately i haven't dated that much um so my texting if you're
you saw the way I text, Jennifer, you'd be like,
are you in the fourth grade, Kelly?
What is going on?
Like, this guy is not...
Are you responding with K?
Yes.
I'll be like, thanks.
And I'll be like, thanks to what?
I was like, oh, sorry.
And I do a lot of emojis.
And I...
Well, so here's the thing.
When you don't...
Photos.
I also, I do...
I send photos because I'm like,
oh, look at that building.
And they're like, why?
And I was like, because I wanted you to see, like,
what I'm doing during the day.
Just kind of like, back to, like,
that you.
you're one of your words, accountability, I just want them to kind of see where I am.
Instead of just being like, you know, thinking of you, I could be anywhere.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, here I am.
I mean, not a selfie, obviously, unless I'm looking great.
But I mean, if you.
I was like, oh, my God, I could not have you as clients.
But when you don't know somebody really well, the risks of texting are that you,
people don't understand everybody's sense of humor out of the gate, right?
So you could say something to somebody, and the inflection in your voice is going to tell them what you mean.
But if you just on the fly text it, they might feel like, what do that mean?
Yeah.
Right.
And that can actually sideline people as they're developing the relationship.
And you can't get to know somebody in the same way through the written word or even through a phone call.
If you meet somebody, you're taking them in with all of your senses.
I mean, I know I have, and most women will take them.
tell you they have met men, they smell great. Have you met the guy who smells great? I have met a
human who smells great. And you're like, what is that? And you're just, there's something about them
that you're drawn to because they're hitting all of your senses, right? Or the, the handsome,
successful, blah, blah, blah, doesn't smell good. That's a problem. Hard to get around. Like that natural
sort of doesn't like okay so it's always good to just get in front of people so we really are
encouraging people meet and you soap meet and you soap maybe a little deodor in here and there
it's safe they make without aluminum these days what what dating trend would you keep around
chivalry oh i love we we really do still believe in in that so irrespective of what
the woman is our client or the man is our client. We want the gentleman to plan the date.
We expect him to host the date. Do you also tell your female clients, like, just because
you're a CEO of X, Y, and Z doesn't mean you have to be a CEO at the date?
Jack's a briefcase at the door. Yeah. And it's hard to do. It is. I mean, you're a successful
woman. I'm sure it's easy to drift into that sort of high-powered business. I know I've done it in the
past. Everybody does it. I like to just let people unfold, which is actually a bad thing. My producer's
always like, ask these questions. I'm like, I can't ask the question because if I say like, oh, how is your
how is your last relationship? Then it's like, I have to listen to my her. I'm like, no, no, no. I am not
listening to about an ex. No. But I'm also not going to have some guy say to me like, you know, what's your
value add. I'm like, so now I'm your value at. Like, what? Yeah, those are not appropriate date
conversations. I mean, you should not talk about your former relationships in the first couple
of days about each other. A thousand percent. I'm always like, tell me about you, tell me about
things you like. Yeah. That's the amazing thing about what we do is you could probably say something
to me and there's genuinely no way that you could shock me. We have heard.
everything. We've talked to all sorts of people. And if you're, if you're going to be successful
in this as a company and as a professional, you just have to be curious. And you have to lead
every conversation without any sense of judgment. And you just have to enjoy learning about
people. So I'm genuinely, I mean, you can tell after spending a couple of minutes with me that
I am a very light person. What are the things that you think that women need to lighten up about?
The checklist.
Wow.
There's a big checklist with a lot of people.
And men have it too.
Don't get me wrong.
But these really long checklist of every single attribute, they have decided where this person should fall on the graph of every single attribute.
And what you lose in doing that is playfulness, right?
And life is supposed to be enjoyed.
it's plenty hard plenty of the time so try to find pleasure and enjoyment and fun where you can
and we always say you don't know what you don't know and I guarantee every woman and every man
has met somebody at a cocktail party in the line at Starbucks wherever it is that you're like
huh that's kind of interesting and they're completely out of the box for you you don't know why right
So what about men?
What do they need to lighten up on?
Age.
I think there's a perception that as women get older, they are less fun.
They are less beautiful, whatever the case may be.
But what we see is over and over again, people are youthful and beautiful and engaging in all these things well beyond 30.
right? I mean, they are. And at the end of the day, we see this, I mean, I'm not telling anybody
anything new, that sort of age disparity that Ben sometimes seek, particularly as they're just
starting to date again, that's typically more of a phase. And the reason is that that deeper
connectivity, I mean, just like cultural alignment, movies, music, things like that that you connect on
and can joke around about,
there's usually a gap there
if there's too much of an age gap.
And they may think,
how this sounds like fun to date somebody
who's 20 years younger
or 30 years younger or whatever it is.
And then ultimately they find
that they can really and deeply connect
with somebody who's more of a contemporary.
So, you know, it's interesting
because if you had met me 10 years ago,
I was still in the thick of things,
still making sure my girls
had the best education.
doing, you know, being the financial provider and also the nurturer.
So I was really, really in the thick of it.
And so I still looked the same.
I looked exactly the same.
But my energy was completely different.
I mean, I had a lightness to me, but not like I do now.
Now I'm just like, I feel like I'm 16 again.
I'm so proud of my kids.
I love my life.
I love where I am.
I'm just a different human.
I still look the same.
And I've had a lot of men say, oh, my gosh, like, you're so young at heart.
I'm like, young at heart.
Like, no, I'm just not a grump.
And by the way, why do I have to be a grump?
Like, what are you talking about?
Well, I also think there's confidence.
There's a confidence that comes, I'm 55.
So there's a confidence that comes being.
So, thank you.
I'll take that from you.
You're a professional.
But there's a confidence that comes with maturing, taking care of yourself and knowing that
I'm still a beautiful woman, I'm smart, I'm independent, I can do it all.
The partner is a nice to have.
I don't need somebody.
It's a nice to have.
It would be nice to share these things, but I don't need to look to somebody else to
complete my life and to complete me.
I love that. A partner is nice to have. That is perfectly well said. Jennifer Wells, thank you so much for being here today and I do part two. You're amazing. It was so much fun. It was great to meet you. Wildly intelligent. And you made dating fun. I was like, oh, that's fun. It's supposed to be fun. And I think that gets lost in the shuffle sometimes. Appreciate you. Thank you so much for being in with us. Thank you for inviting me. It was nice to be you.
That was such a fascinating conversation on this pod.
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My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious.
Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.
Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon.
This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot.
He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her.
Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate.
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