The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Let Us Explain

Episode Date: October 12, 2022

Ashley and Jared watched back their date on Paradise and they’re ready to address the criticisms from fans. They get real and address what people liked… and didn’t like during their time on the sand.   Jared and Ashley share some true relationship revelations from one of Bachelor Nation’s success stories!   And, they reveal a shocking truth about “The Bachelor Bros” Aaron and James!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? Answer, a new podcast called Wisecrack, where a comedian finds himself at the center of a chilling true crime story. Does anyone know what show they've come to see? It's a story. It's about the scariest night of my life. this is wisecrack available now listen to wisecrack on the iHeart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts this is the ben and ashley i almost famous podcast with iheart radio hello everyone welcome to the almost famous podcast it's ashley and again today i am joined by my husband jared which you guys

might be tired of us and if you're like many people out there you hear that it's the two of us again and you're like, I'm sick of you. I'm turning this podcast off. It's not my fault. We just found out that Ben couldn't be on the episode. So, like, you're like, hey, can you fill in? Like, yeah, sure. That's the one thing Bachelor wants is more of us.

That's the, what's Bachelor Nation wants. Bachelor Nation wants more of us, not. So we got a lot of backlash. Or we didn't really get a lot of backlash, but a lot of you out there did not want to see a married couple on the beach. Yeah, it was pretty evident, which makes me sad. It just makes me sad that I think we both thought when we went down to paradise that we were just going to go down

and we'd be one of the, you know, the former couples that always go down. And we're there for a while. We're not going to get much screen time. It's just more for us. And then we had the opportunity to kind of hang out and go on a date. But even when we were still down there,

I think you and I both were under the oppression that, like, well, they're not going to like, we're not going to get shown that much, which is totally fine. This is more of like a cool thing that we can look back on. And we went on a date and we're so grateful for Bachelor and the producers and everybody being able to bring us down there and take such good care of us.

and, you know, we're, quote, a success story, if you want to phrase it that way. And it was, it was so lovely. And I thought when we watched, we were going to watch it back, it was just going to be kind of nothing, but more for us in our family and being able to watch it back. And no one would really care, which is totally fine by us. We'd get some people say, oh, my God, Jared and Ashley again. And then some other people say, oh, it's so nice to see them again. And then that would be it. I don't think we'd get as much screen time as we thought.

He didn't, he didn't think that we were going to get as much screen time. And I did, because I could feel that they were using certain storylines. knew that they wanted to do, like, the whole, like, are they going to utilize the boom boom room? And I knew my farts were going to play a big role. And I was really excited about our date. Like, I knew our date would do. I still find that very funny. We thought it was funny. A lot of you guys thought we were boring as hell. And that's fine. I don't, I don't think anybody said it was more, um, people just didn't like that we were filler content or they thought that we were filler content. I think a lot of people are a little frustrated of how stretched out the show is right

now because let's be honest we're going into episode five tomorrow right so this is the third week there's been one rose ceremony and you guys um just previewing for you you won't get another rose ceremony until monday we leave on monday okay everybody happy we're gone we're not here for the whole summer what do you guys think we're going to hang longer uh we're not and and furthermore any i uh i have a little bit of a theory okay go for babe I think this is a minority. Let me say that. The majority of people who watch the show and support the show

and come to Audrey's to support us, you guys are awesome and wonderful people. And I love you so much because of that because truthfully, like we said, without you, without the people who support the show who support us, there is no Audrey's. And you guys have done such wonders for us and made our lives better.

You've made Dawson's life better. You made Dawson's life to a certain degree, I guess I don't know I guess that's a little bit of a stretch I love you all but I don't know I was thinking like if it weren't for Bachelor fans

then maybe you and I would have never been on the show and then we would have never had Dawson but for the very loud minority who continue to say oh my God I don't want to see a married couple on here give the date to people

who actually need it and single people just be honest with us and yourselves you don't watch a show for love which is totally fine you watch it for drama as long as you can admit that then it's fine because what makes me frustrated is that people say, oh, I watch the show for

love. But love doesn't end when people leave the beach. And I'm sure that you can relate to that if you're watching the show and you've been in love and you've had long-term relationships. Love evolves. Love changes. It just doesn't stop. So when Ashley and I had the opportunity to go back down and spend some quality time together and really open up in ways that we haven't opened up in a little while, probably since our honeymoon wedding, because let's face it, We get into the mundaneness of day-to-day life and we don't talk about how we feel or what the other person means to me.

You know, of course, I tell Ashley every day how much I love her. He's very good with words of affirmation. But I just say, hey, listen, you're a great mom. You're a great wife and I love you and I appreciate you. That means a lot. It does. Well, thank you so much. And Ashley, of course, says that to me and it means the world to me.

But we never really get into the depth of, hey, this is how you make me feel. This is why you make me feel that. This is why you're so important to me. And we had the opportunity to do that on the beach and share a moment and talk about Dawson. so for me watching back that date meant a lot and it gave me a lot of happiness because I remember having that conversation with Ashley and how great it felt just to be able to say some of the

things that frankly are tough to say because they're awkward and in that environment they're not awkward because you're forced to talk about those things. It's super strange how that conversation over dinner, the next town over at the spot that you like going to, we would do it to a certain extent, but you would never get to the point of crying. No, of course. And we talk about Dossett and, you know, what type of parents we want to be and how much we look up to our parents and how impactful they are in our lives. Yeah, those are the kind of conversations that you and I would have on dates before we were ever married. And even not to that depth. No. You know, neither one of us would start crying. Well, there was one time. We actually went to a beach and we did start

crying about the same topic. When was that? You don't remember that? What beach? Um, we were in, what's the area that I used to like with the boats. Okay, that's what I figured it's in L.A. Yeah. I don't remember crying. You, we totally cried. It was a very similar moment, but it was like four years ago. Before Dawson. It was before we were married. So anyway, that's my two cents on it. I have a little bit more of two cents. Sure. What I want to say that the fan reaction isn't going to take away like that moment for us. We're still like so glad that we were still like so glad that we went down there. And I think like right now we're a little disappointed. We're just sad. It has a bad taste in our mouth, you know? Just because like people didn't enjoy it as much as we

enjoyed it. And I know that like you shouldn't let what like fan reaction like affect your feelings toward those moments at all. But I think like it's natural to do that. Well, I think it was a special day for us and that place is a special place for us. Even through all the difficult times and the hard memories, there's foundations built on that beach that have. have led to our ultimate marriage and parenthood. So, of course, through all the good and the bad, that place has a special meaning to us. So being down there is always going to be meaningful. And so when people react to it in such a negative manner, and it's like, I trust me,

even watching the episode, I was like, holy crap, we are getting a ton of airtime right now. According to Bachelor Data, the Instagram account, we did get the most amount of airtime in that episode. Which is crazy, but I'm not going to be apologetic about it. I mean, first of all, that's not our decision. Secondly, you know, we, like, guys, there's 16 episodes. 16 episodes. They had to be creative. They wanted to come up with something different.

They tried it with us. And apparently, they're not going to do it again. In the grand scheme of things, I mean, we're barely on this season. Because we leave very soon. And when we leave, there's still. 10 episodes? Yeah. I don't even know.

We're not even close to halfway through yet. And let's be clear. We didn't steal a date from anyone. That was our date. They are the Bachelor producers. They're able to give as many date cards and create as many date moments as they want.

We didn't steal anyone in his date. And like we've said a million times on multiple podcasts and like everybody says, going on dates sometimes, it certainly doesn't hinder your relationship. But you can actually build more of a foundation on the beach of paradise then going on a date where they separate you in cars and then you do this activity and then you talk and then you go back in separate cars where you can just hang out on the beach together and really you know build a dates aren't as critical in paradise as they would be on the main show and it's just like it's a show so of course there's going to be certain elements

that like let's give a date to Ashley and Jared okay great and we're not going to say no to that yeah you out of your minds we have had moments like this of course in the past and like Like, our engagement was one of them. We watched our engagement. We were, like, so bummed out that it went the way that we thought, like, the way that it was on TV. And I feel like for us, this was just to be, like, one of those moments. It's like, we have a little disappointment after watching it. And then a year from now, we'll be like, oh, my, we won't even remember how it went over on TV.

We'll just have the actual memories. I think it's, it's, listen, again, don't feel bad for us. We are so lucky. this is not this is us just talking about it because Ashley asked me like 45 minutes ago hey can you host a podcast I need a co-host and then it's like okay let's talk about this because this we're literally living through it right now we just watched the episode

last night and we're fine I don't want people to think that we're like super upset well like we're sad but there's no reason to feel bad for us we've just on national TV we got to go on a date we have a beautiful sun I'm not asking for people to feel bad for us like people are going to listen to this and have like a whole bunch of feelings. I feel like they're going to be like,

oh, so they wanted us to like them so bad. It's like, well, yeah, I think it's human nature. We want you guys to like us. It's not so much that we want you to like us. We just didn't want you to absolutely hate us being on the show. It makes us sad. I mean, think about if you went to a party

and then somebody was saying to you, because obviously we read comments, Like, yeah, God, we don't want you here. Yeah. We just don't want you here. Thank you for that comparison. That's exactly how we feel. And it's like, well, okay, that makes me sad.

Yeah. You know, so sorry. Yeah, of course, that stuff makes us sad when people just continuously caption or comment under tags. Like, it's not like we're searching for things, guys. Like, we're tagged in these things. So literally, we get notifications. If I just go on my timeline, it's like these things are being said to us, being like, God, these people, get them away. Nobody wants you here.

It's like, oh, all right, well, that's, we're not that. They're taking up that much time, guys. I promise. But thank you for that comparison to the party. That's exactly how we feel. We felt really cool and really excited to get invited to this party. And we know we're old. You know where high school harries?

I know. We play into it. We're like, guys, we know we're old and nobody cares about us. It's not like we walked in thinking, all right, guys, listen up. We have all the answers. Talk to us. We know what to tell you. It's more like, we walked in.

We're like, we're not that cool, but we're just going to kind of hang out. We got invited. We're so excited. We needed this time. And then it was just like, get out, get out. And you know what? The cast out there was so awesome. They're the best.

Yeah, that's what's sad is that they made us feel so welcome. They made us feel so welcome. They're so, like, I remember Andrew, I'll never forget. Andrew was sitting at the picnic table when we were talking. And he said that it was so nice, it's so nice having you guys here because you guys are so comforting, you know, because he's like, it's a stressful environment and you two were just here and, you know, and he said that we're comforting. And I was like, damn, that's... It's so sweet. It's so sweet. So anyway, that's about us. We don't want to get too deep into it.

Now people are probably just like, holy shit, guys, you're just talking about yourself even more, dedicating more time. And we're hosting the podcast, so we can talk about this for 10 minutes and now we'll move on. And I have to say, I can say one more thing, babe, one more thing. It's sad. The last thing that's sad. I'm sorry. So sad, that's sad. You guys can fast forward through farting and they peeing and all that stuff. and of course the moment was important for us to have the conversation on the beach for us and we'll remember the conversation forever and all that

but it's sad to hear that you guys would fast forward through that one because that was like a that was a bachelor moment that I would think that anybody who like really likes the show for love would love I would agree and that's why I think listen people watch the show for all different reasons for drama and for love and I totally get that but I think the idea that it's like, oh, we don't, you know, first, if, I guess what frustrates

me is people will come up and say, like, we love the love. That's what we want to see. We want to see love. And it's like, yeah, well, as you guys probably know, a lot of you are married, love evolves, love changes, and you really need to continue putting effort into love. It's not like you fall in love on the beach and then you leave. And then it's like, all right, guys, well, that was fun. You know, like their love story's over. of course it's not and so um you know i i thought the idea of them bringing back couples and trust me i thought that they were going to do this with more couples but definitely did we thought it was could be like one couple a week maybe yeah we didn't think we're going to be the only ones i don't

until we got there then we realized it was going to only be us but well truthfully i know i don't know if it's just us do they bring i don't know they do bring past couples but nobody sleeps over like we did there's going to be a lot of a lot of appearances cameos but there's there's nobody who sleeps ever so anyway those are our two cents about it but once again we also got some nice comments so I want to thank everybody who did say nice things it means a lot to us and at the end of the day it's okay and I can't fault the producers for even thinking it was going to be a good idea because all of you or not maybe not all of you but hate to generalize but a lot of you follow the couples on Instagram afterward because you want to see where their relationship leads and

you like following that lifeline timeline. So naturally, I would think that that that seems like a good idea. Like let's put one of those couples on there. But I guess not a good idea. Anyway, sorry, it's a pity party. No, and it's not meant to be. We don't want it. Yeah.

I mean, but let's face it. It was a pretty big topic of conversation over the past 24 hours. In our lives. And then we're hosting this podcast. So we're going to talk about it for 10 to 15 minutes. And now we'll move on. All right, let's talk about Laced Rodney. So, well, let's take a break.

And then we'll talk about Laced Rodney. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.

Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet.

So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the O.K. Storytime Podcasts on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD...

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And he and Jill are kind of hitting it off. He's like, well, Jill, you're pretty awesome. We should have gone on this date. Jill's getting her hopes up. and then Lace brings him down to the bar or like has a moment at the bar and all of a sudden everybody looks over and they're making out Lace made a great move though

she was having her flirt her like flirt meter was perfectly tuned on does that make any sense? No but not to me but I'm sure a lot of people understand what you're going for She turned it on and she turned on well you know how you'd have those moments

where like sometimes like when we first met I could not do it. I couldn't flirt, couldn't have a conversation. You could turn it on every once in a while. Yeah. Once I got comfortable with you. Yeah.

Not like the first couple of days. This girl, she was ready, set, go. And it worked on him. Yeah. It was out of left field, the whole Lace and Rodney thing because we thought we were, you know, shipping Jill in Rodney.

Lace came in, started making out with them. We were asleep. But we were asleep. Of course, we were asleep for half these things. Yeah. But love Lace. it's so weird being in paradise and having friends with so many people because you're like oh Jill I want you to be with Rodney and then Lace makes out with Rodney and you're like

well I want Lace to be happy too so I guess now I'm rude for Lace and Rodney we're playing so many teams we felt so like basically if anybody came up to us and was like I want to be with so and so we'd be like we want you to be with so and so and of course we do but the problem is everybody's dating each other I love Lace she's the best she's great for TV she's great in person so I'm shipping Lace and Rodney and as well said it's an unconventional couple that's well said there's always one couple each season that takes everybody by surprise and that's definitely this season feels like rotting lace we'll see how long it lasts uh-huh uh next couple that we want to talk about is uh well the genevieve aaron justin situation holy crap this is a lot this is a lot of this

episode is this triangle. Yeah, the triangle between Justin, Aaron, Genevieve. I feel like it's their, yeah. Okay, basically, I think I know what you're going to say. What am I going to say? Justin and Genevieve seemed to be trying way too hard for a couple who only had a thing and only seemed happy on night one. And they did, I don't even. Were they even that great? I don't think they were that great. He went on that day with Victoria. Yeah, I know. And then, you know, he came back. Johnny. he was going to give his rose to Victoria. Definitely wanted to pursue things with Victoria. So then Justin gave Genevieve the rose.

And then there's this expectation that like maybe they were going to like try again. But they just seemed like, why are you guys trying so hard? There was nothing to fight for here. Yeah. And Aaron came in and was like, I want to take you on a date. And he was, you know, steadfast on Genevieve. Yeah.

I don't understand the issue here. Justin simply annoyed the fact that he gave a rose to Genevieve. And, you know, now where is he getting his rose from? Paddling up. I can't say it. Creek. You can, oh, yeah. We should be able to say it, I feel like.

Yeah. So, I mean, I get that Justin's annoyed by that. But I think that that was the risk he took by giving Genevieve that rose. And that's just the risk you take in paradise with basically every rose you give out. But it's also, you gave a rose to someone that you didn't go on a date with. I mean, think about that. He went on a date with Victoria. Was that after the Rose ceremony?

That was before the Rose ceremony. it was like seven episodes ago I'll forget everything just kidding yeah so okay hold on so he gave the rose to Genevieve

and then went on a day with Victoria no no Victoria came on before the rose because Johnny gave her rose yeah what he's annoyed babe is that he gave his rose to a girl who's now

going to go on a date with somebody else yeah but he went on a day with a different girl during that week yeah but she was super upset about it like she was like Genevieve was so upset about it And then he was kind of like, okay, well, now look, I'm going to give you my rose after all this. And then she goes and talks to Aaron.

And Genevievee was on the podcast last week. And she said, of course, I talked to Justin before going on that date. Yeah, you do. Of course. So then we see Aaron, she gets home from the date with Aaron. She really likes Aaron. And we, I've said multiple times on the podcast already, he was our biggest surprise, I think, as far as. human beings go when we got there because we were like oh my god why is this guy so angry all the time

he's always looking for a fight he's not funny at all why is why these girls into him and then we met him and he was like oh wow you're like cool funny endearing totally self-deprecating yeah he's a good guy but we also love justin too we really enjoyed our time with just him really guys there was nobody we didn't like is there nobody that we didn't like the only person we didn't really connect with us Logan. Logan, we just didn't have a connection with. I also don't, I can't say that we really, like, had like a good, like, amount of time with Johnny, enjoy Johnny, but, like, didn't have, like, I can't, like, really

remember many moments with them. I feel like Johnny and Victoria were just always, like, on a daybed doing the one thing. Yeah, private and quiet and calm. It was very calm around them. There was so calm around them. It was, like, hilarious guys. We're like, why is there, like, no drama ever coming from that area? Yeah, just coasting right on through.

Yeah. So, yeah, so Genevieve comes back from the date, and she's kind of, like, like, hey, I'm surprised that I like him. She says that's a Justin. And then Justin's still like pretty pissed. And then it's his birthday, which is hilarious because it was her birthday. A couple of birthdays are there in Paris. So many effing birthdays. They're there for like three weeks and everybody has a birthday. Was everybody born in the month of June? Well, it was funny because it like the whole drama was like, I can't believe he's breaking up with me on my birthday. And then it's like two days later, it's Justin's birthday. And it's like, I can't believe she's

breaking up with me on my birthday. The shady thing that happened here is that just a Justin, in the midst of an argument in which they're basically, like, cutting ties. He goes, do I not get a birthday kiss? You got a birthday kiss. And it was so manipulative and a little bit ick, a little ick. Actually, a lot of ick. But, like, I also hate talking bad about people that I like, but, you know. I mean, what's wrong with asking for a birthday kiss?

Jared, it was like, you didn't see this scene. No, I didn't. Yeah, you didn't see this scene. Jared watched it, but not, like, intently. Sometimes you get to get up and go pee. What do you want for me? She was like, I had a great time with Aaron. I really like him.

And he's like, you're going to leave me without a birthday kiss. So anyway, so then she goes to Aaron and she's like, I have to admit to you, I gave him a birthday kiss. And then Aaron's like, well, that's manipulative of him. But also, Aaron handled the moment like a chant. He was like, I really like you. We had a great day. Tomorrow we'll start fresh. And that was it.

He was so mature about it. I know. And they started fresh. that seems easy, breezy going forward. I think Aaron also has the perspective of being on Paradise prior and realizing, all right, kind of, this is the situation.

Like, yeah, you might kiss someone else, but we're still working towards something here together and she was honest with me. So let's just move forward. Yeah. The other storyline that comes from that double date with Aaron and James and Genevieve and Chenet is that Chenet basically abandons Logan after this.

She likes James more. It's not like there's like a crazy passion. She just happens to like James more. James is a very handsome man. James, I love James, so sweet. Just wish that he wouldn't whack his eyebrows. He's the only thing. He's got beautiful eyes, though.

Gorgeous eyes. Jesus. When he was down in paradise, it's like, good God, man. It's like looking into the ocean. Yeah. He's so sweet and like gentle. Okay. Yeah, which is so surprising.

Yeah. The Bash brothers basically. The Bash brothers are like so sensitive and gentle. That's what I was like, James is, he's such a sweetheart. And then Aaron's so self-deprecated. I'm like, are you guys sure you're the Bass brothers? Because, come on now. You should be a little doucheier.

But you're too nice. Yeah, they're like the, yeah. All right. So, Cheney is like, Logan, why didn't you come after me when I came back for my day with James? Like, you didn't try to pursue me at all. And then Logan's kind of like, well, you were the one that went on a date. Shouldn't you be coming up to me and telling me how you felt after the date? What do you think about a situation like that?

I'm team Logan probably Yeah because I mean could you imagine doing this I can go either way Could you imagine doing this outside of the Bachelor bubble Like having You have a connection with someone

Then they go on a date with someone else And then they're like I was just trying to make you jealous Like why aren't you coming after me Even though that's I don't think what she was doing She says that she likes James more anyway Logan probably got the vibes She likes James more because like he's more pursuing At this point

Maybe just Here's the point I don't feel like Logan and Sheney have a very good connection. No. So it's like, Sheney, why are you annoyed that Logan wasn't coming after you? She just wants to be wanted.

Yeah, my point exactly. It's not, you guys are fine. You guys are, it's obviously not that strong connection if neither one of you is fighting for the other. So let's just move on

and try to find someone else. So Sheney, you move on with James, see how that goes. And then Logan try to move on to somebody who's thinking, why isn't Logan and Jill? Well, Jacob and Jill now. I don't think Logan and

Could you imagine Logan and Jill together, Jared? No, but I'm just saying single people on the beach. Let's just figure things out. Obviously, your connection is strong. Let's get some friendship roses figured out. Let's get some friendship making out, you know? No, no, no, no. Friendship making out.

You were the last person to say anything because, like, you and I both would never friendship make out. You wouldn't like, you wouldn't like semi-frenship make out with me. That was different. You were like, I liked you too much. No, but I was always. also I knew I would be leading you on compared to Jill and Logan

You used the term leading on remember you hated that Oh yeah you said you would have then Jared hates I was sending mixed singles Jared says there's a difference between mixed signals and leading on and that's a whole other conversation And we're not talking about right now At the crux of it I understand what Jared was saying

But I think that people usually use those terms synonymously Okay on it to another Bachelor couple that's just That's just easy breezy like Johnny and Victoria are at this point it's a Brandon Serene Brandon Serene are

I mean yeah They're just smooth It's just smoothness He's falling in love with each other He says he's falling in love Some people are giving him criticism For saying that so early Including Jared

No it's not It's just more You know Sometimes you get wrapped up in the moment That doesn't mean he's not Actually going to fall in love with her But I think maybe he was a I don't know

I mean listen it all depends on how it plays out What happens if they end up spending the rest of their lives together. This man is so incredibly romantic, though. That's what I mean. Like, because, yeah, do I think he said it too early? 100%. But at the same time, he's so sweet and endearing,

it makes you want to believe what he's saying. I wonder if Michelle's watching this back and just being like, man, I missed out. Because Brandon is... No, let's not. I mean, I hope not. Damn, I hope not. That's awkward.

I don't know. Just Brandon is so swoony to me. Very swoony. You know what I mean? Well, he's very good. looking. He's very good looking, but he's just like, he loves love. Like, that is not a player dude. Yeah, he also pays attention when you talk. I noticed that when I was talking to him, he was looking at me in the eyes. He's like, oh, this is a very intent listener. I don't know

what it is about him. He's just, like, so, like, precious. Yeah, he's just a great guy, great box. People use those, um, that expression, like, protect this man at all cost. That's how I feel about Brandon. Yeah, I would agree. Okay. So anyway, um, yeah, Brandon and Serene have a great date. Great date. People in the pool. I'm all yours. Damn So cute I mean I get it Serene is a catch

Oh yeah Beautiful is more intelligent I'm sure Brandon's like This girl is incredible And I want to lock her down Immediately before any other douchebags Walk down these stairs And try to steal my girl

They are just classic couple The one that starts strong End strong doesn't have any drama Unfortunately Well okay Yeah I'm sorry I'm just seeing foreseeing like, you know, there's like little slots they put you in.

Well, plus he's, I mean, I get that a little bit of his story, but in his intro, he's literally unburying of engagement. You know what that is. No, I don't. Okay. So in Michelle's season. He buried in an engagement ring. No.

When she denied his proposal, he threw it into this. That's right. I forgot about that. Which I think is the best intro of all the intros thus far this year. Yeah. What else is a good intro? It's so funny. Lace's call back to her Bachelor and Party season three

where she falls and catches the drink. Yeah. I think season three is the best one. That was the one where Josh kicked the soccer ball and then the soccer ball hit Nick in the head while he's taking a selfie. That's just incredible. So good. So,

so good. And then Wells was DJing the coconuts. Yeah. Spinning. Back when Wells was just a DJ in Nashville. I know. Isn't that crazy? That is really crazy.

DJ in Nashville. Yeah. What was I going to say? I was going to say something what I thought was poignant. which probably wasn't pointing in at all. Maybe it'll come back to me. Oh, yeah. Okay, so basically, like, they put you in slots, right?

Because they're like, you will be the couple that will be together and it'll be tumultuous. You will be the couple that you get together and it's strong the entire time. There's always the strong the entire time couple, and that is Brandon and Serene, or for what I foresee. Yeah, but sometimes those couples end up. No, there's just a couple, babe. There's like the couple that's strong and then they fall apart. and then there's the couple that's strong and then they stay strong.

It's like the Jaden Tanner versus the Carly and Kirk. Kirk or no, Kirk. Lauren and I literally had this fight on the sand. Is it Kirk or is it Kurt? It's Kirk, Jared.

It is Kirk. I are K. Yeah, it's Kirk. You're right. Yeah. So there's one of each. I don't think Brandon and Serene are going, I don't think they're going

the Carly and Kirk way. They're going the Card, the Jaden Tanner way. One can only hope. What's the next thing? next thing is basically the Carly and Kirk it's Michael and Sierra Oh yeah

Do you want to take a... You explain the Michael and Sierra story a little bit I mean Michael and Sierra They just they when we went down there They seemed like a pretty solid couple They were a solid couple And then you know we all saw what happened Sierra she had that date planned

Everybody was so excited for her Well I was okay So we were all really excited We were all really nervous Okay so Because we were just like I think it's a great idea but, you know, it's just, as everybody knows, it's, it's, it's a lot. It's a heavy conversation to have in such an early relationship. And so I think we were all really excited. We all thought it was going to go well. But I think all of us had like a little, little voice in the back of our head saying, is it too much? And then we're like, no, like we're in paradise. This is what, you know, and she really wanted to talk to her about the situation and make him know that she was there for him and supporting and that, you know, she was not trying to replace anybody.

or anything like that. But obviously we all saw what happened, which sucked. Because Sierra, again, just... Isn't she stunning? She's like striking. And she's just so sweet. She's really just... She's a sweetheart.

She is, yeah, a great heart. But Michael has a great heart, too. We love Michael. We love Michael. We love Michael so much. Now, listen, I talk to Sierra a little bit more than Michael up until this point. So I was knowing their relationship much more through Sierra's eyes. And then afterward, I was talking to Michael more and I saw the relationship

through Michael's eyes. The situation that Michael's in is really like almost unprecedented as far as being in paradise. We've seen a couple widow, like the only other widow I can think about on the show is Emily Maynard. Can you think of another widow? No, not a little, uh, well, oh, Julia Kinney. Julie Kinney. And technically, well, not technically, I mean, who Kelsey oh Kelsey Poe Kelsey Poe how did that not come to the top of my head I can see why it's a little bit of a different

situation totally different situation let's not even go there okay so Michael has obviously he's obviously going to go about dating in his atmosphere different than everyone he has not had a serious relationship since his wife and he talks openly about how he's not going like it's hard for him

to get there he's scared because every time he does get close to really dating someone he basically walks away yeah that's not really conducive for dating in paradise but that's why i was concerned when i heard this from him i agree or i heard these concerns from sierra i was like oh crap then he's probably i don't know if paradise is the place for him yeah I mean, I love Michael, but I also don't want him to go into a relationship with someone again and have the same thing happen again. It just seemed like he was going to need like the slowest of the slow process. And obviously, Paradise is like the fastest of the fast process. The fastest of the fast.

So Sierra is telling us girls what she's doing. She just looks so gorgeous. And she's going to pull him aside and show him the stars that she got. for him and Laura and their son. And I thought he was going to take it well. And I was, but not like, but also tell her to slow down. I thought he was going to tell her, we got to slow down. I did not think he was going to tell her, let's be friends.

Yeah, it went 100 to zero really quickly in Sierra's eyes. And I understand that Michael probably had a different outlook. And maybe they weren't communicating or he. He wasn't communicating as well as he wanted to to Sierra with in terms of how fast the relationship was moving. But, yeah, it's crazy how it just ended. Yeah. Roadblock. I expected when Sierra told us as a group that he basically cut it off with her that he was going to leave as well.

And then you and I were both kind of shocked when we saw that he's just hanging around. Because I thought what he was saying is like, this is going too fast. I've realized this isn't the place for me to find a relationship. Yeah. But he was really just saying like this is not, that's actually not the situation at all. The situation with Michael was that he really felt like something was missing with Sierra. He did not feel it all the way. Is that, yeah, it was more that the connection with Sierra wasn't there rather than the environment.

The environment of paradise can move too quickly. Yeah. So, hey. So once we heard from that, we're like, okay. And a lot of people, whenever something ends, a relationship ends, everybody's looking for someone to blame. And I feel like this is a situation where there's, there's no specific. Like, I don't fault Michael and I don't fault Sierra. I can see both sides of what they were going through. It was just an awkward situation that, of course, I think Michael could have handled

things better in. But also, like, he could not have been, he could not be more sweet in this moment. He's just the sweetest man. And it's like, guys, how else did you want him? him to break up with her. Did you want him to do it in increments? Because he could have done it in increments. There's no other good way of doing it. I thought, you know, he handled the situation as well as he could. And he didn't want to lead her on anymore.

But the thing was, I guess she never had a sign for her to slow down in the first place. It's so hard, though, because then I agree because you're in paradise and things move quickly. But at the same time, they were probably hanging out for at this point. four, five days maybe, which I guess is an eternity in paradise. But it's, that is such a gray area to me where I can understand, you know, Sierra saying, well, it's been five days and in paradise, that's a very long time. I wish I had more of an idea that the, your, our connection was not as strong as I thought it was.

But then I can also see the other side saying, well, it was so early on. I wanted to give this a real chance. And then it was still only five days in before I ended up ending things, ending things, which I felt was still pretty early on. Yeah. I don't know. It's hard. It's really hard when you're there in the moment and you get to know these people

and you know the situation when you see it, go down and then critique it. It's definitely easier to critique episodes when you're not there. I know. We just have like a lot of empathy for everybody. and we like everybody. And I guess that's it for the recap, but we do have a couple huge bachelor headlines. So we're going, well, actually,

there's maybe just one huge one. Yeah, there's one huge one. And we've got to talk about it right after this break. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on

the okay story time podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. It's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not?

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I saw her in June and she was seeing someone. It had to have been. It had to have been him, right? I have not texted her, like, asking, like, was this the guy yet? But either way, so thrilling, this woman deserves, I hate saying deserves love. Like, it's my least favorite thing because I think that everybody. Don't say it. Don't say it.

You hate saying it. Everybody deserves love, but damn, do I root for Claire Crawley to find love more than, like, a lot of people? First of all, I don't think everyone deserves love. You don't? There's some very bad people in this love. I mean, no, but the majority of people certainly do. Yeah, like, I just, you know, specific because that Jeffrey Dahmer thing is, I was like that guy, no. Does not deserve love.

Okay, so the majority of people in this world deserve love. But, yeah, no, super excited for Claire. they, I'm assuming I've been dating for a while and she just announced a relationship because even if they really, yeah, it was like, uh, they went Instagram official last month. Yeah. So it feels so fast because of that, but I would assume that they've been dating for six or seven months at least, which, you know, when you get to, uh, exactly 41 and 47. Yeah, you get to a certain point in your life. You're like, okay, we're, we're ready. This feels right. This feels good. Um, let's move forward. Yeah. So he is mascot sports CEO and. And Scott sports. Yeah,

I know. It sounds pretty big, right? I feel like I've heard of it before. Okay, you look that up. Oh, I'm thinking, no. We're thinking of mascot books. No, we know mascots. Yeah, we are a book. Lucy and Clark, a story of popular. You can buy it through mascot books.

Yeah, so they got engaged in Las Vegas over the weekend. He got down on one knee at the Rise Festival on Friday during a romantic lantern release, which was far more romantic than the lantern release that you saw Wells recap the other day. there was 7,000 attendees. Claire says she's over the moon and a people exclusive. This was the last thing I expected right now, especially coming from where I was a year ago. Think about where she was a year ago.

She and Dale were just like a... I don't even know if they were broken up for the second time yet. She says it's been such a serious journey and Ryan has been by my side since the very beginning. she says really what he's in it for is my heart and he's so consistent and so vocal about how much he loves me it is something I've never experienced it's been such a gift having him in my life oh so effing sweet he also she says she says he's the perfect match to her and I'm just so happy didn't you guys Can you believe, like, what she went through in the past two years, and now she found her man.

She found her man. I feel, I don't know this man. I don't know this man at all. But I feel so much more secure from her in this relationship. And her and Dale got together. It was like, oh, this could, I hope it works out because I know that she's ready. And then, of course, that infamous interview with, it was Chris, where he's like, what's next? Babies.

Babies, and Dale's like, oh, well, uh, we'll, you know, I don't know. Oh, this guy? She's like, babies. Babes. Oh, that was so good. So good. It was a great classic Bachelor moment. Now, Claire is going to be a stepmom, it seems, to Ryan's two girls that he has.

I love the fact that she's going to be like an automatic mom. Claire. So motherly. So motherly. She, like, she, uh, yeah, I feel like she just is, gives direction very well. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah.

Like she's going to be, those kids are going to be doctors. You know what I mean? She's going to like. Set them on the right path. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's going to be there every minute to make sure their schoolwork is done and that they have,

like they're in bed at a certain time. And, uh, yeah, that's cool. That's cool. I'm excited for her and for her fiance. Very exciting. And another upcoming bachelor alum wedding.

will be Madison Pruitt, who is going to get married in days, literally within the month. It's wild. This was the crazy fast engagement. They got engaged over the summer, and they're getting married in November. She had her bachelorette party this weekend in Miami. She said the theme of the weekend was Maddie's last slam dunk, which is, you know, a play on the fact that she loves basketball. was at the Miami Beach edition boutique hotel she says it was a dream uh that they had they had cabana time they had dinner at the hotel before going to a micro club did she play college ball yeah yeah what what are you smiling like that for i'm not smiling i'm wondering if i could beat her one-on-one uh i don't think you could actually how tall is she i don't know but i think she's Pretty good, Jared.

No, she's really good. Yeah. I'm just trying to think if I could stay in front of her on defense. She and Michelle. I'd like to see if you could go one-on-one

with she and Michelle. Two-on-one? No, no, not two-on-one, babe. Like, you play against one of them, then you play against the other one and then the winners play together. Unless you would both, that wouldn't work.

Okay, so a micro club. I could keep up. I bet I'd score. Babe, what's a micro club? A small amount of friends. A micro club. that plays homage to Ian,

oh, to Studio 54. That's cool. Oh, they rented it out for skating and bowling. They had drinks, desserts. If you guys care what Maddie Pruitt did on her Bachelor Art party,

you can read more in the People article. Jared is obviously not invested. All right, that's it for this episode. We'll see you guys on, I think your next episode will come out on Thursday night.

You didn't want to talk about Rachel and Rachel and Zach? Avin, I thought. Oh, this is a bullshit headline. This is Zach saying that he felt some spark between Avin and Rachel on the finale when he interrupted the whole Tino situation. And let me tell you, there's no, there was no real spark.

That was a, oh my gosh, you're making me look so much better right now. I'm pulling you off stage and I will probably never see you again. moment yeah well because I've been on social just I don't see any pictures of him and Rachel together yeah they've never hung out afterward yeah so it feels like that was a waste of time it's exactly why I said it was a BS headline

oh sorry well that's all I want to touch on it because I was like I saw the spark comment and I was like but I don't see any like did they even like hang out at any point afterwards to read the article verbatim you don't have to read the article Zach says Zach says he noticed chemistry between the two. The last time I saw her had an Avin, they had a little bit of a spark on camera.

Love and respect Avin. Want the best for them if it's a thing. It's, spoiler alert. It's just not a thing. This is not a Hannah, Brown, Tyler, Cameron. Is it a thing? Yeah, because those were, remember, there was pictures the next day where Hannah was walking out of this apartment or whatever,

and you're like, oh, shh. This was like, they left, they literally left the stage. And we're like, all right, cool, that was fun. see you later big gulps huh well see you later bye bye guys oh until next time which will be a new podcast on thursday evening when ben and i are together here at audrey's coffee house in lounge for doing a live podcast if you're in the new england area and you want to meet cassie randoff jill chin and ben higgins cassie's coming too i know i know where's cassie live where she In California, she's going all the way.

Oh, my God. I know. I always feel bad when people come because I'm like, it's a nice place and I love it so much. It's really nice. And the food's good and the coffee's good. But at the end of the day, it's a coffee shop. Like, I feel so bad. I'm like, I hope it's.

I just need to her to go to Newport, you know. You got to go to Newport. You got to go to Westerly, like, make the most of your time here. But guys, if you're in the Newfoundland area. Sorry, now I'm going, because I'm like, Newport, I was like, wait, it was Cassie, Newport? And then I'm like, no, that was Hannah's season. Yeah. So that was after, because Hannah was on Colton season, which was the season, Cassie was on.

Wow. Yeah. God, that feels like a million years ago. Colton was on Hannah's season. Colton was on Becca season. I'm like, duh. And then Hannah was on Colton season. Then Hannah became the Bachelorette.

And then that was obviously Tyler and Jed and Pilot Pete. And then he became the bachelor's. There's your recap of the past five years. Crazy. We'll see you guys at Audrey's on Thursday. Love you so much. It's open to the public, y'all. And seriously, love you guys.

Come, come, come, come. The people who listen to this podcast, who watch the show, who don't say mean things about us on life. I hope that you guys don't, I again, don't want you to think that was like a pity party at the end of the episode. We're fine.

We're doing well. We're very lucky. We're so happy. We're so happy. We're so happy we went down there. And then people told us to get out. And it was a little embarrassing. To our faces.

It's like, we don't want you here. It's like, all right, never mind. Like, I wanted to like contact producers be like, should you guys just like edit us out Yeah, just have us leave We never say goodbye, they'll never realize that we Ghost us?

Yeah, just ghost us. It's even like, yeah. Even tonight we have some stuff. I know, I'm not, we have a watch party at Audreys which of course. Everybody will be nice there. Well, no, and even like, you know, Audrey's our business, it's like a kid.

This is just like us free rambling now. Well, you know, it's a podcast. Yeah, I know. This is what we do on podcast. This is what we do. And so, of course, Like anybody who comes to Audrey's and supports our business, our small business, that's amazing. And please come and everybody comes so nice.

But yeah, I'm not going to be watching because I'm just going to be so insecure. I don't know how there's just a part of it that doesn't want to go tonight. This is like a flashback to Jared like being in high school. Oh, 100% the insecurities. There was a, there was a table in high school one time. Now granted, I didn't have that bad of experience. I got bullied a little bit. Did you really?

Yeah, but I had other kids that were bullied way worse. And I felt terrible for them. And I never stuck up for him because. I would get bullied a little bit but I would never want that onto me. I never had the courage to stick up for other people because I was too nervous than all of a sudden

I would get the full steam of bullying. But I remember this one time. It was kind of, it wasn't bullying, it was just more I don't know, I guess maybe they didn't know how it's insecure but there was a circle of hate about me. I couldn't go to this.

Sure, that sounds like the I hate Rachel Green Club. It was a little bit. And yeah, I don't know why. A circle of hate for my poor baby? So I couldn't go. I remember they went to Hooters after a football practice or something. I couldn't go.

And they were, they told me they were very happy that I wasn't there. And I think they were busting my balls, but this was when I was very, very insecure. And so I wouldn't call it bullying, but they called me and they told me afterwards that they'd create, they each went around the table and said something that they hated about me. Yeah, it was very damaging.

Do you remember any examples? One of them said that they hated. I loved Seinfeld so much. And that I said, I wanted to be like George Costanza because I'd always joke around but like I want to be like George like he lives a big lie

it's very funny and of course I would say this thing trying to fit in This is a little like 17 year old Jared still wanted to be George Costanza until this day Yeah and then that's the only one that stuck out to me

And then I think somebody said They hated that I tucked in my jerseys When I'd, because I used to go I remember I tucked in I'd wear jerseys to school Yeah And not like you mean like You used to wear NFL jerseys to school

Tom Brady Jersey Paul Pierce jersey You know just local Celtics or Patriot players and I would tuck him into my jeans but then apparently that was not cool

which obviously looking back I'm like why did I tuck in my jerseys oh my sweet boy oh that's quite all right but now we're just

reliving it all okay good times good times now we're actually signing off until next time I've been Ashley and I've been Jared

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