The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Let’s Find This Girl A MAN!

Episode Date: April 23, 2025

Jana Kramer is getting to the nitty gritty of what her single real-life best friend is looking for in terms of dating!The women are giving their opinions on prenups, non-traditional relationships in y...our "I Do, Part 2" era, and if Pamelyn should explore dating younger men.Know an eligible single bachelor perfect for Pamelyn? Email us at: IDOPOD@iheartradio.com or call us at 844-4-I Do Pod (844-443-6763)Follow I Do, Part 2 on Instagram and TikTokSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
Starting point is 00:00:25 Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, it's Daniel Fischel. Writer Strong. And Will Ferdell from PodMeets World. We are back in Las Vegas and giving the people what they want, a full week of Y2K content. Tell me why. Well, for the Backstreet Boys residency at Sphere, of course.
Starting point is 00:00:54 We joke and say this is our second marriage, but it takes a lot of communication. Plus, it's carrot top, baby. And finally, Ashley Simpson-Ross joins us to talk about her upcoming sold-out Vegas residency. Listen to PodMeets World on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you.
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Starting point is 00:02:33 all from one of my favorite spaces, the kitchen. Listen to the new season of the Overcomber podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey guys, it's Jana and I am back with my bestie, Pam. And we are going to talk all things dating and how it's going for my girl. All right, girl, let's dive back into our convo. So whenever I ever get someone that DMs me about them going through a divorce, I'm so sad for them because I know the feeling and we know how awful it is. But I always end it with. And I'm so excited for you because there's going to be a brighter version, a lighter version of yourself. You get to fall in love again. You get to fall in love again. You get to, you get to. receive what you really deserve and not settle for less, but that doesn't mean that it's not hard in the process. And that is what we continue on with this conversation and, you know, and our walks and our talks. And that's why, you know, I'm excited to talk to you about it because
Starting point is 00:03:46 it is, dating isn't easy. No, but it doesn't have to be horrible. Exactly. So I think there's the ebbs and the flows, right? So for you, now that you have, because how many years, now has it been? Two. Two years. So you're two years divorced. When do you think actually it's appropriate to start dating again? I never really follow timelines. Yeah. I think it's like a feeling thing. Well, I think you have to be honest with yourself. I think, you know, like are we dating to mask feelings and not processing things, you know, or maybe, you know, somebody truly that you would really, you know, like really want to be in a relationship, just happen to come into your life at, you know, maybe the two-month mark. I mean, I don't think there's, like, I don't like to ever
Starting point is 00:04:37 put timelines on it like that either. For me, I didn't even really think about it. Like, when I was getting divorced and then, like, months and months after, I didn't even really, again, I was just, like so focused on my growing my company and my kids and traveling like that's kind of that's what I did I didn't jump into dating I jumped into travel right that was my that's what I did and so I don't have an answer for that for me it was it was a while I mean my goodness oh what eight months maybe or something. And it was because of you anyway that even prompted me to even entertain anything, you know, so I probably wouldn't have like started until later. Well, I just, because I think it's one of those things, like we said early on, it's, it's a bit of a numbers game. But it's also go out
Starting point is 00:05:42 there and feel the feelings of like, like, when I started dating, I was like, oh, wow, people think I'm, actually, like, I don't, you know, for sure. There's a, there's this, uh, feeling you get post-divorce. Yeah, I mean, and sometimes you do need like a stroke of your ego, I guess, right? After, you know, kind of a long, you know, marriage or whatever. And I, whenever I did kind of start dating, I was ready. Sure. Like, I felt good about it.
Starting point is 00:06:19 I felt, you know, just in a positive light. And I was excited because for me, the type of energy I'm going to put into something is exactly what I'm going to get out of it. So I am never going to be like, this sucks. Men are awful. My gosh, dating. Like that will never come out of my mouth. I actually love it.
Starting point is 00:06:42 I love men. I think they're amazing. I think that I am learning something. about myself every time I talk to or go on a date with somebody. And that is what I take away from it. So I think it's fun. And we have some lows with it. What are the lows do you think that I've said?
Starting point is 00:07:11 It's discouraging, right, at times? Because it's, I mean, I don't know, is it? So the last date, maybe. Oh, hey, but discouraging, discouraging. I mean, that was an amazing date. Sure, sure, sure. But so you did send me a text. That was like, I'm like, this sucks, you know?
Starting point is 00:07:33 Well, okay, but let me explain this to everybody. So I have not had any type of bad experience at all. Okay. I feel like, you know, any man that I've talked to or have been on a date, with or jumped off boats i mean that oh lord okay moving on so i i think i can you know sniff them out pretty good so i've i've only i've only had really interesting men that like are doing really cool things and i'm super intrigued by so that's been great to like see that you know this whole different world out there because when you're married for 10 years you know you don't you're not
Starting point is 00:08:23 exploring that you don't know and so that's been a blessing for me is just like whoa you know like this is super refreshing this this can be fun and um just kind of evolving you know and learning from each one of them the little things i want to take away from each one of them i mean you know and try to right you're trying to piece them all together to find like this magic person i think that's where I'm at that I haven't had anything bad. It just hasn't been like the die. Do you have moments where you wonder if you'll ever find love again? No.
Starting point is 00:09:05 No? So you believe that you will. 1,000% and what is, because there's times when we walk and you're like, I don't want to have, I don't need to have the, I don't need to get married again. I don't need it. So it's like, well, that's true. I mean, that's exactly. Is it though? Because then you're like, the other day, you just said, but what do I want? Right. I mean. So what do you want? So here's the deal. I 1,000% am so freaking happy in my life.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Very joyful. I really. I could find a word for you. It's joyful. You know, I hit the jackpot. I am, you know, I have this company that fills me with such a joy. and, you know, inspiration and that continues to grow. I have these beautiful children. I have the most amazing friendships. My family's so freaking great. You know, I get to travel. I get to have all of these beautiful experiences.
Starting point is 00:10:05 So when I tell you, I'm at a high and really at a high, but that doesn't mean that I don't have space or that I don't necessarily want somebody to elevate me. even higher. Like, can I think, do I think that I can be even that much happier with an amazing partner? I do. I want, I totally do. And I do want that. However, if it's not that, I'm not doing it. I don't have to do it. I don't, I don't need it. I want it. Yeah. But I really don't. I mean, I'm, I'm happy at my home on a Saturday night with music. and the good book.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Right. December 29th, 1975, LaGuardia Airport. The holiday rush, parents hauling luggage, kids gripping their new Christmas toys. Then, at 6.33 p.m., everything changed.
Starting point is 00:11:13 There's been a bombing at the TWA terminal. Apparently, the explosion actually impelled metal, glass. The injured were being loaded into ambulances, just a chaotic, chaotic scene. In its wake, a new kind of enemy emerged, and it was here to stay. Terrorism. Law and order, criminal justice system is back. In season two, we're turning our focus to a threat that hides in plain sight. That's harder to predict and even harder to stop.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Listen to the new season of Law and Order Criminal Justice System on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't. trust her now he's insisting we get to know each other but i just want her gone now hold up isn't that against school policy that sounds totally inappropriate well according to this person this is her
Starting point is 00:12:26 boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age and it's even more likely that they're cheating he insists there's nothing between them i mean do you believe him well he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet so do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not to hear the explosive finale listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hello, it's Danielle Fischel. Writer Strong.
Starting point is 00:12:52 And Will Ferdell from PodMeets World. And we're bringing you Viva Las Content. That's right. We are back in Las Vegas, the city of sin, and giving the people what they want. A full week of Y2K content. Wait, we're back in Vegas? Tell me why. Well, for the Backstreet Boys residency at Sphere, of course.
Starting point is 00:13:13 We sat down with Kevin Ritchell. And Richardson and A.J. McLean just minutes before they took the stage and our very own Wilfredel basically became the newest member of the band. Boy band, please. Plus, the man who has the longest running comedy show on the strip joins us and gets his props. It's Carrot Top, baby. And finally, we all L-O-V-E-Hur, Ashley Simpson-Ross joins us to talk about her upcoming sold-out Vegas residency. It's a full week of nostalgic interviews you don't want to miss. Listen to PodMeets World on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Have you ever wished for a change but weren't sure how to make it? Maybe you felt stuck in a job, a place, or even a relationship. I'm Emily Tish Sussman, and on she pivots, I dive into the inspiring pivots of women who have taken big leaps in their lives and careers. I'm Gretchen Whitmer, Jody Sweeten. Monica Patton. Elaine Welter-A. I'm Jessica Voss. And that's when I was like, I got to go.
Starting point is 00:14:10 I don't know how, but that kicked off the... pivot of how to make the transition. Learn how to get comfortable pivoting because your life is going to be full of them. Every episode gets real about the why behind these changes and gives you the inspiration and maybe the push to make your next pivot. Listen to these women and more on She Pivots now on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The U.S. Open is here. And on my podcast, Good Game with Sarah Spain, I'm breaking down the players from rising stars to
Starting point is 00:14:42 legends chasing history. The predictions will we see a first time winner and the pressure. Billy Jean King says pressure is a privilege, you know. Plus, the stories and events off the court and of course the honey deuses, the signature cocktail of the U.S. Open. The U.S. Open has gotten to be a very fancy, wonderfully experiential sporting event. I mean, listen, the whole aim is to be accessible and inclusive for all tennis fans, whether you play tennis or not. Tennis is full of compelling stories of late. Have you heard about Icon Venus Williams' recent wildcard bids?
Starting point is 00:15:15 Or the young Canadian, Victoria Mboko, making a name for herself? How about Naomi Osaka getting back to form? To hear this and more, listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain, an IHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with deep blue sports and entertainment on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. I think it's important too because there's no point in settling when it like I would have never settled again because like what is the point? I have two beautiful. I had two beautiful
Starting point is 00:15:56 children. I would rather be alone than be in an unhappy marriage again because we know how that feels to be in an unhappy marriage. And then why go through that again if it's not the right person. I know and that's just where I feel so powerful and so like honestly in control of it and I just think there's something to be said about it's this combination of divorced mom energy and perimenopausal type of situation that is like the most powerful thing I've ever experienced in my life. It's it causes you to ask for what you want. not give a shit what people think and just kind of you're coming into your own honestly and it's the best place to be if I could bottle it up and sell this feeling that I have right now
Starting point is 00:16:55 we would be billionaires what is your biggest when you now that you're in the dating world again what is what do you love the most about it and what defeats you from it. Well, is it that it's Raya's the worst or? No. I mean, oh my gosh. I convinced you to get on that one. Yes, you did. And that's all that I've, between, you know, friends introducing me to people and Raya, I mean, that's really all there is.
Starting point is 00:17:26 I don't go out much. So I'm not meeting somebody, you know, at a bar. So I think that's the thing, right, where, okay, so now you're a mom, you know, you're trying to run this, you know, house by yourself. and you're, you know, working and doing all the things, it's challenging to find the time to put forth, you know, the effort. So I think that's, that's really hard. So that's what's discouraging a little bit. Yeah, because we can just talk about what happened.
Starting point is 00:17:56 I'm like, all right, when's your second day? You're like, I've got a volleyball game here, a softball game there. And then I got the kids. And then it's just like, and then I'm a business. And it's like, when? You know, it's. So that is super challenging and it's definitely a thing. But I have to believe that there are men out there with the exact same problem as me and are, you know, willing to maybe be a little bit, like, non-traditional in their approach to, I do part two.
Starting point is 00:18:29 Mm-hmm. Right? Right. What has been, like, what, what gives you the most ick on a date? Oh, Lord. Dating in your 40s, what is the ickiest thing? You know, the funny thing about icks, or is that they can just come out of nowhere.
Starting point is 00:18:50 I mean, you are like, whoa. I was totally vying with you. And you said one thing and I'm done. I'm out. Like, you said you like an all-inclusive. And I'm outy 500. It can happen that quick. And so it's, it's, it's a scary place sometimes because you're like, whoa, where I'm like, girl, I love it all inclusive.
Starting point is 00:19:15 Let's do that. I am such a detailed, curated, experiential person. Like, if I'm leaving my house and I'm traveling, it's going to be perfectly curated and boutiquey. But anyway, we, we digress. Yes. So the biggest ick. Oh, I have a couple, actually.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Go for it. So listen up, dudes. Getting drunk or having more than like two glasses of wine or a cocktail. I mean, I remember I was on a date and we were, I was there for 50 minutes because I couldn't stand the guy once I got there. And so I was, you know, trying to kind of like move it fast. And in 50 minutes, he had three cocktails on a Tuesday night. it's just not, I'm just not about that. I don't like it.
Starting point is 00:20:08 It's a total ick to me. Yeah, like just getting drunk in general at this age. You know, I'm 46 years old. I'm, you know, dating my age or older. I just, it's just not something that I want to be in that environment. Totally cool if you do, and that's what you love to do in your spare time. It's not. I mean, well, I enjoy like a, you know, amazing glass of wine with somebody on a date, of course.
Starting point is 00:20:34 but I don't like if alcohol is the driving force. Yeah. Or like their identity or something that like has to be done all the time. I just do not like that. Is there height requirements? Oh, I feel so bad when I say this stuff. Because it's just, you know. I do.
Starting point is 00:20:52 I mean, I definitely do, but I hate to say it aloud. I think. I just think there's so many, you know. I think if you're going to be. Again, you know, picking the one, it's, I never liked dating shorter guys and I couldn't. I tried. I totally tried. But I just, I like a dude that's taller than me.
Starting point is 00:21:18 And I'm 5'4. So that's really not asking for a lot. But I did try and someone was like, he was like, maybe, maybe 5, 4. Maybe 5.5. He was like, 5.5. And I was like, I just can't do it. Right. So I think, though, at this point.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Maybe that makes me shallow. No, no, not at all. I mean, my whole life, I've, you know, it's been very tall men. But what I am learning, and this is a process. I mean, I am learning what gets me going and what I like and, you know, the type of feeling I want. And so I think there's a world where I could tell. totally, you know, fall for somebody if they weren't, you know, so tall. If, like, I had this amazing feeling and it was, like, supportive and there was beautiful
Starting point is 00:22:14 communication and, you know, I was attracted to you. I think it all comes down to attraction, really. So, but typically, you know, I've dated, like, six foot and above. Yeah. Just if we were going off of charts of past. relationships. I mean, my ex-husband was actually the smallest, I mean, not smallest, the shortest person that I ever knew is six foot. Right. And again, I think if as long as you have that attraction. Yeah, it's the attraction for me. You know, that. And I'd like to wear like a small
Starting point is 00:22:50 heel. Yeah. No, I, I do agree. But people make it work. I mean, there's, um, I totally for her name, but I follow her on socials. I mean, she's taller than her husband, you know. But again, they're attracted to each other. And it's not. Yeah. I don't think. I don't think any of it's like a hard note for me. Sure. December 29th, 1975, LaGuardia Airport. The holiday rush, parents hauling luggage,
Starting point is 00:23:23 kids gripping their new Christmas toys. Then, at 6.33 p.m., everything changed. There's been a bombing at the TWA terminal Apparently, the explosion actually impelled metal glass. The injured were being loaded into ambulances, just a chaotic, chaotic scene. In its wake, a new kind of enemy emerged, and it was here to stay. Terrorism. Law and order, criminal justice system is back.
Starting point is 00:23:56 In season two, we're turning our focus to a threat that hides in plain sight. That's harder to predict and even harder to stop. Listen to the new season of Law and Order Criminal Justice System on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot.
Starting point is 00:24:33 He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't. don't trust her now he's insisting we get to know each other but i just want her gone now hold up isn't that against school policy that sounds totally inappropriate well according to this person this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age and it's even more likely that they're cheating he insists there's nothing between them i mean do you believe him well he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet so do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not to hear the explosive finale listen to the okay Storytime Podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Hello, it's Daniel Fischel. Writer Strong. And Will Ferdell from PodMeets World. And we're bringing you Viva Las Content. That's right. We are back in Las Vegas, the city of sin, and giving the people what they want. A full week of Y2K content. Wait, we're back in Vegas?
Starting point is 00:25:26 Tell me why. Well, for the Backstreet Boys residency at Sphere, of course. We sat down with Kevin Richardson and A.J. McLean just minutes before they took the stage and our very own Wilfredel basically became the newest member of the band. Boy band, please. Plus, the man who has the longest running comedy show on the strip joins us and gets his props. It's carrot top, baby. And finally, we all L-O-V-E-Hur. Ashley Simpson-Ross joins us to talk about her upcoming sold-out Vegas residency. It's a full week of nostalgic interviews you don't want to miss. Listen to PodMeets World on the
Starting point is 00:26:02 I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Have you ever wished for a change but weren't sure how to make it? Maybe you felt stuck in a job, a place, or even a relationship. I'm Emily Tish Sussman, and on she pivots, I dive into the inspiring pivots of women who have taken big leaps in their lives and careers. I'm Gretchen Whitmer, Jody Sweeten. Monica Patton. Elaine Welterah. I'm Jessica Voss.
Starting point is 00:26:26 And that's when I was like, I got to go. I don't know how, but that kicked off the pivot of how to, of how to, how to to make the transition. Learn how to get comfortable pivoting because your life is going to be full of them. Every episode gets real about the why behind these changes and gives you the inspiration and maybe the push to make your next pivot. Listen to these women and more on She Pivots now on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The U.S. Open is here. And on my podcast, Good Game with Sarah Spain, I'm breaking down the players from rising stars to legends chasing history. The predictions.
Starting point is 00:27:02 Well, we see a first-time winner and the pressure. Billy Jean King says pressure is a privilege, you know. Plus, the stories and events off the court and, of course, the honey deuses, the signature cocktail of the U.S. Open. The U.S. Open has gotten to be a very fancy, wonderfully experiential sporting event. I mean, listen, the whole aim is to be accessible and inclusive for all tennis fans, whether you play tennis or not. Tennis is full of compelling stories of late.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Have you heard about Icon Venus Williams' recent football? wild card bids, or the young Canadian, Victoria Mboko, making a name for herself. How about Naomi Osaka getting back to form? To hear this and more, listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain, an I-Heart women's sports production in partnership with deep blue sports and entertainment on the I-Heart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of I-Heart women's sports. You mention older, like dating guys your age.
Starting point is 00:28:02 than older. Would you ever go younger? Because you aren't quite the cougar. Oh my. You could be. Well, everybody always asks me that and they certainly are. They love Pam. Yeah, the younger are bold. I mean, they are bold. They are communicative, which I totally appreciate. I do love a good, bold, you know, subtle, swaggy type of person.
Starting point is 00:28:29 But I never dated younger. ever and I just I don't know why I think maybe there's a couple like things that are happening in my brain where I'm like they want kids the kid train is word we're done we're closed yeah so you've got two kids have two kids right so but you know I'm like you know do they want a child of their own and then I kind of would feel you know like guilty about that um so I think there's a little bit of that. And I've just, I really like an older sophistication. But I am telling you, these younger men coming up, I mean, they have some tools like with communication and awareness and evolving and, you know, really kind of like tuning into a woman that is admirable
Starting point is 00:29:23 and exciting. And so I just really haven't gone there yet because I really do. I'm super intentional. And I probably think too much. Do you want to get married again? I don't know if I have to get married. I mean, I am open to, you know, that. But I don't think that it's something that is like on the top of my list of feeling like
Starting point is 00:29:52 I've found the one in or you know to marry them like I don't I don't have to do that um do I want like this beautiful long term monogamous exceptional relationship yes right and and listen dudes they don't have you don't have to live here in Nashville like she's she loves traveling no I've never like seriously dated anybody in Nashville I actually maybe prefer not been wrong with that. Would you sign a pre-nup if you did get married? Yeah. I feel like at our age, it's like, yeah. I'm good. Talk to us about your business. Okay. Well, I have a health and wellness coaching company that is global. It can reach anybody because it is virtual. I have my own app, and I am really focused on transforming women's bodies, minds, and spirits, really in the 40-plus
Starting point is 00:31:01 age group through weight training and nutrition and, you know, gut health and mindset. And I am, I mean, I could cry thinking about how grateful I am that I'm in this space that I was able to develop this company and grow it to where it is and now, you know, just continue to scale it. I don't know what I would have done without it. Yeah. I mean, it was, and hey, I went through the program. It's a great program. Help me get my body back from, yeah, from pregnancy,
Starting point is 00:31:35 or, you know, from being pregnant and everything. So, but also what I learned, too, about foods and. Sure. It's the education. Yeah. And I think for you, too, moving into your dating world, you need a man that supports your drive, lets you shine there because I don't know if you've had that and then also that takes care of
Starting point is 00:31:57 themselves like you said not drinking so much like you want someone that takes care of themselves well I just want them to first and foremost like acknowledge the importance of being you know fit in their body mind and spirit I mean you know you don't have to be you know some big buff guy you know at all. I'm not even really into that. But I just, yeah, I love the awareness and the and people having like the understanding of why that's so important and how it's going to help with longevity and just making your life, like living your life as optimally as possible is really my message. Like we don't want to just feel okay. We want to feel freaking amazing. And I want somebody to be on that journey with me so that when we're 70, 80, like we can still be traveling
Starting point is 00:32:47 through Europe together? Speaking of traveling through Europe, what is your hope on this dating journey? Like if you could go, this is what I'd love to see in the end. I know you don't know if you want to get married
Starting point is 00:33:00 or not, but because I feel like travel obviously is a huge piece of that. So you want someone that can be worldly, can go travel with you. Yes. You know, for me right now, like what I visualize and I'm, you know, open to different things,
Starting point is 00:33:15 but for me, like what I'm capable of, right? We talk about what everybody else is capable of, but what I'm capable of is maybe something that doesn't look so cut and dry like, you know, people are used to where there can be a beautiful relationship that doesn't have to be so like in the same city and so maybe like 24-7, right,
Starting point is 00:33:42 where it can be where we meet and we travel together and we support each other and we can see each other like, you know, when we don't have our kids or whatever, like, timing that looks like, because that's the reality with co-parenting. I can't change that, you know, they have to be with their dad. They want to be with their dad. He wants to be with them. And then I have space to, you know, either focus on my company or travel or do whatever
Starting point is 00:34:06 I want to do. And I take full advantage of that. And so I think there's a world where it could be this amazing, like, non-traditional view of partnership or I don't have to live in the same home as you 24-7. I mean, could that overlap and would that be cool? Absolutely. But I don't think that, you know, it has to be so full on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:34 And I too, like for the, you know, for people that are dating and I just did this little Google search here and I'm going to read it in a sec, but not to be discouraged. Because a lot of people are like, oh, this, you know, Nashville sucks for men or it's so hard, there's not men here. And there are roughly, it's Google, four billion men on Earth, slightly more than half of the planet's total population.
Starting point is 00:34:56 So four billion men. Oh, yeah. I think, and again, I met my husband. He was overseas, different country. And so it's like, the reality of your soulmate being in your same state, I'm like, you can go to any state. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:13 And I know it's hard. Right? So I say that. I love it. But it's like maybe change your Googles or your dating search to a different city. Just try it. Like I don't know. Remember I was like, girl, try Dallas. Or try like, who cares? You know, because I'm like, people will move if you find the right one. The only people that I've dated. Why just are you, why are you in a 25 mile radius? Yeah. You're not going to find anybody 25 mile radius. No. I had to go overseas. Yeah. I mean, do you see what I mean, oh, that's what I do. I mean, that's exactly what I do. I'm, you know, and yeah, I mean, And the only people I've dated were L.A., New York, you know, just not here. Not that I'm opposed to it. It's just, I think for Nashville, if I will say, it is more of a younger male demographic. Sure. You know, I mean, I live in Franklin, Tennessee, you guys. It's like the capital of beautiful families living in this dream of all, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:09 these wonderful moms and dads and kids. And so there's, there's no, I mean, there's no single men, really, right? So you got to look elsewhere. Best tip for dating. Don't take everything so personal. I mean, who cares if somebody doesn't like you? Who cares if they don't like you back? Who cares if they even don't call you back or ghost you?
Starting point is 00:36:34 Like, I am never going to let somebody doing that affect, like, how I think about myself or that or make me feel like I'm less than or not worthy. I mean, there's the chances of there being a connection are really slim. I mean, that's why we have to keep trying and never give up hope, but not letting, you know, some guy you barely know, dictate how you're going to feel and then go about your life. It's just insane to me. Such a good tip.
Starting point is 00:37:03 I would say a tip that I've given you. Oh, I know. Because we don't have a lot of time. We are moms. so we are busy, girl, FaceTime before you go on a date because you will know pretty much if you're attracted on a FaceTime and if there's any sort of connection over a FaceTime and you're going to not waste your time. No, you've helped me for that for sure. I've definitely put that into my routine. Yeah. Your last one's like, I got to FaceTime you first because it's
Starting point is 00:37:33 just really, I mean, that's why I'm like blind dates. You're just, no, I'm not interested. in a blind date. I mean, at this, it's... But what I think we should be interested and what we should do is this summer, we go to New York and we just, you know, because you gotta, you gotta get out, right?
Starting point is 00:37:53 Yeah. Gotta get out, got to meet people. Let's go, let's just find a little girl's weekend and, you know, to anyone listening. Pamela, where can they find you? Flyed into her DMs. House of Pamela on Instagram. Pamela, you are the best things
Starting point is 00:38:09 for being on the pod, sharing your experience. love you so much. And I know that you are going to get the ending that you deserve and the love that you've always deserved to have. Thank you. I love you, friend. Appreciate you. Okay, so we're going to put some info up on our socials at I do Part 2 pod. So you can see my gorgeous friend inside and out and I want you to share it. So send it to your brothers or your coworkers or your husband's best friends. And we're going to try and make an actual love connection because that is why we created this show. So let's help my bestie. find her true love. I love you. Thank you again for just being open to chatting about this.
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