The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Like Mother, Like Daughter

Episode Date: July 17, 2025

Kelly Bensimon is joined by her daughter, Teddy, to get a fresh perspective when it comes to navigating relationships in her "I Do Part 2" era. Does Teddy think Kelly should get remarried? Is Kelly picking the right men? Teddy is NOT holding back with her unfiltered opinions on her mom's love life!  Email us at: [e-mail] or call us at 844-4-I Do Pod (844-443-6763)Follow I Do, Part 2 on Instagram and TikTokSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Listen to America's Crime Lab on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. do part two. I'm one of your celebrity mentors, Kelly Ben-Simon. And today I am so excited because my gorgeous daughter, gorgeous and smart daughter, Teddy Ben-Simon is joining me on the pod. Hi, Teddy. Hi, Mom. Hi, Angel, my princess girl. Look at you. Let's get started, Ted. So this is I do part two. We're talking all things love. okay do you like to talk about love teddy sorry i love love i'm a lover are you a lover yeah i'm like a romantic person i love love oh i love that you look very beautiful thank you let's set up for the audience uh what kind of mother-daughter dynamic what would you say we have

we are mother-daughter we are you and c are more like friends oh we are a life mother-daughter and what does that mean exactly like you're my mom and i'm your daughter and we are our mother-daughter you gave birth to me i did i exist now it was the easiest birth it was the actually easiest birth i had a tricky sandwich and i love turkey sandwiches they're so good you were like i didn't want anyone to touch you was like do not i don't remember but i love turkey sandwiches they're delicious. How would you describe our relationship? I mean, I think I definitely see you as my daughter. Mom, we have a mother-daughter relationship. Like, you're my mom. Obviously, I love you. Obviously, I think you're fabulous. But obviously, you're my mom. Like, I'm going to be annoyed with you

sometimes. I'm going to think you're cringe. I'm going to think you're embarrassing. I'm going to think you're annoying. I'm also going to think you're so fab. Sometimes I'm going to be like, oh, my gosh, I'm annoyed. I love that. I love that you think I'm I'm cringed. That makes me so happy. It makes me so unhappy. Like, oh, my God, my daughter called me cringe. To me, that's like, use it to my ears. Because it's like, I don't, I want you to, I want you to learn from my mistakes.

I don't want you to just think that my mistakes are okay. What do you think about mistakes, Teddy? I think mistakes are great. Your mistakes. Mm-hmm. My mistakes. I mean, they're not mine. I mean, like, I feel as though I'm sad that,

you had to experience those mistakes because I think that some mistakes that you've experienced or made were ones that had consequences that were not the most fabulous or pleasant you know obviously like when you make a mistake or you make a choice you can't always foresee what the future is going to be that's why we make choices and make decisions and then you know you make another one once the outcome happens

but I'm because I've seen the consequences of your mistakes so far I know to not make those same choices I'm a single parent as you know I'm your single mom

as I know I'm yes I present to you as the both the mother and you have a dad but as I present to you as the mother and the father so I take care of you

I'm your provider I'm your I'm your rock I mean I'm you know we love we love your dad and we understand what you're my mother very very good at and my dad is my dad I have a father

you're not like a father to me yes but you have me and your parent so let's talk about like some mistakes because I'm actually really curious and I think this is a good talk about them why not talk about them with on a podcast that's really helped me to be a better version of myself. So I love that. What kind of mistakes have I made? Don't make me cry. I think you've made mistakes in your romantic partners before. Absolutely. I think that your biggest mistake is you don't, I think something you can still learn from is that you need to, when someone tells you this is wrong. I think this is a bad choice. I think this is a bad person, whatever.

It'd be wise to listen to them because obviously I think that it's a big, I mean, that's a big thing to say to someone because in everyday life when someone tells you that's a bad choice, you'd be like, what do you know? You're not me. You're not living my life.

You don't know my experience. You don't know me. No one knows you better than yourself. But I think that listening to friends and family for, you know, hey, this person is not a great choice for you, knowing that people who love and care about you are telling you to

leave this person, maybe that should be something that you should listen to more in life. Like if people say, don't do it, you shouldn't be like, what do you know you're not me? You could be like, why do you see that? I'm not like a, oh my God, let me be a martyr because I need to be a martyr. I'm not like that. I don't think it's martyrdom, though. I think it's just, you know, making a choice. for example you know you you you had a romantic partner when I was younger

friends and family told you maybe this is not a good choice you know and instead of necessarily saying you know what I'm going to listen to what you have to say why do you have said this you were just like I'm going to continue doing this instead I mean I wasn't saying anything because I was younger but I think that like if you had listened to those people at the time you wouldn't have made so much many mistakes later. When I say that you've made mistakes, and what I mean is that, you know, I think that you have, I think in romantic situations, I think that you either give someone way too many chances or you give them like no leash at all. And you don't, like, you like the tiniest

thing, you're like, oh my God, I hate that. I'm writing them off. And it's like, whoa, you know, you know, he used the wrong fork at dinner. I mean, actually pretty bad. But. whatever no that's a different example because i think i'd be like they're what do you wear your manners but um no but not everyone knows about you know table manners and then i'm not using the right fork at dinner but it's a tiny fork salad fork hello no no what you were saying about about picking and choosing people and giving them too many chances i think too that one of the things that i was doing is that although i was saying and presenting myself saying that I was looking for someone to share my life with.

And to when I, you know, I mean, from, you know, from the minute I got divorced, I was like, you know, I want a better life from my girls. I want a better life from my girls. And that's always what I wanted. And I was so concerned that you guys would not have a better life than what my parents gave to me. that I didn't see men for actually for who they were. I was so laser focused on you guys and providing for you that, you know,

if they were the nicest guy, I didn't see them. If they were the worst guy, I didn't see them. Like, I literally did not see who they were. I mean, people would make mistakes or they would do things. And I was like, you know, I just wasn't present. I wasn't available. I was so, you know how they talk about like, you know, dating unavailable guys?

Well, these, all the guys that I was going on dates with or I was in relationships were with a highly unavailable woman and that was me. Yeah, I know. But I think that you also. I know. I know you. I'm my mom. I'm aware. I think that you have this idea of what your perfect person is.

in your brain and you see yourself as like you're like okay this is me and this is what I want and I'm 57 and I feel like I've lived this long and I've waited this long I still should have exactly what I want I should be able to have my cake I should be able to eat it and I should be able to share with everybody. And in reality, that's not the way life works. That's not the way romance works. And that's not the way finding a partner works. I'm a firm believer in like, you, I always tell like my friends, like, and I even tell you this all the time where it's like you have to think of your perfect person in your brain and say like your 10 things or 20 things that you want in your perfect person, whether it's physical traits, like intellectual traits,

emotional traits, mental traits, all these things. Put them on on a piece of paper. and then, like, cut them in, like, cut a third of them away. And, like, take off, like, a third of them, be like, okay, and that's more of a reality of, like, what people are. Because if you're expecting to have your perfect person, then you need to understand that you would need to be saying that you are a perfect person. Or I always say to you, think of your ideal man

and then think of his ideal woman. And are you that person? I know. I love that. I love that when you say that. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon.

This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him?

Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hello, it's Daniel Official, writer Strong, and Willfordale from PodMeets World. we're bringing you Viva Las Content. That's right. We are back in Las Vegas, the city of sin, and giving the people what they want. A full week of Y2K content. Wait, we're back in Vegas?

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someone who is intelligent. I love that. Is that three? Like understanding of what? That's three. Understanding of what my emotions, understanding of the world. Like understanding of like you and your experiences.

And like an understanding person doesn't mean that they understand a certain thing, but they're willing to, they're not the kind of, someone who's understanding is not going to be like, you say, XYZ thing happens. They're not going to react immediately.

They're going to think about all these other things. things and all these other factors and then they're going to make a judgment after it's just someone who's not really reactive and they're very much so the kind of person who looks at the bigger picture and looks it and takes everything else and puts it together to make their decision you know it's interesting because i you know one of the so there's two things that i that happen when i when i go on a date the first thing is that they asked me about scary island and they're like what happened so i'm like okay obviously why are you dating men that know about what's scary Island. I couldn't even tell you what happened on scary island. I couldn't tell you what happened.

I actually like it because it means that they have a genuine interest in me. So I think that's kind of tricky-ish. And the second thing they asked me is, oh my God, like, you're so busy on social and you're in, you know, you're like, what do you do for a living? Where are you finding these people? It's just, that's just how people, that's how men in their 50s. That's how they're, that's how they're they respond that's what they that's maybe go for a man in his 60s this is bizarre mom i'm not kidding if a man like that would be shocking to me if i went on a date with someone and they were like how was this big fight that you had with people i would be like what do you what are you talking about you remember i'm in my 50s so it's like we're the same age so they're kind of at trying to ask me things

that are like relatable that's what they're trying to do i don't think that would be these are that would be i think it's the red flag if they're like like hey how was going on scary island you would i would be like what like i've that would be shocking to me mom i'm in my 20s i've never had a guy on any date ever asked me what it was like to have a parent be on a bravo show i love you thank you or they don't even ask me about like are you close to your parents i'm like yeah and they're like okay great because one part of you on a tv show is so like that if that even part of you even still exists in you right now it's so small and insignificant it's stupid to me that that would even be a question that someone would ask and they need to be gone

Teddy beautiful I'm sorry that's bizarre so what do you think about the men I've dated recently what are your thoughts I like them oh the ones that I've met I like so you think I'm making better choices absolutely even the ones that cheat cheetah's going to cheat I think that you're okay with cheaters who is okay with cheetahs who is okay with cheat No one. No one. I'm not okay with cheaters. I feel as though when you cheat in the legitimate cheating way, that is hideous. And that is the worst thing you could like I know for a fact that if I got cheated on, I would be, I would be so upset if I was truly in love with that person, I'd be so upset with them. Number one, because I'd be like, you ruin this forever. I'll never

be able to ever trust you again and we'll never be able to be together. It's done. Like I know that myself. To be transparent with you, you know, that's one of the reasons why I do have such a guard up when it comes to dating is because I have been cheated on so much. And, you know, I put you guys first and I'm, you know, outside, you know, in my business world, I wear my business hat. But when it's family time, as you know, it's all family, all you guys. And plus the phone. The phone is a family member. that's my other sister that's your step sister yeah she's evil you know why i'm always on the phone texting is because i didn't want to be calling i didn't want to be talking on the phone with you guys and that's why i would text all the time is because i didn't want to you guys to think that i wasn't

listening to you weren't you were texting on the phone always listening i listened to everything you think you think i don't listen to what you're saying i listen to absolutely mom i will ask you you'll be on the phone whatever and I'll say mom what are I just say you'll say one second and I'll say

I never said one second my favorites see you guys mom I'm getting a tattoo I'm like okay yeah see what's see why are you getting a tattoo

why is I'm getting tattoos see always will do the craziest thing whenever you're on the phone ignoring us see will be like okay let's say what's the craziest thing I could say to upset her

right now I'm like she doesn't even care tattoo tattoo How do you, how do you, I'm like, uh, okay, that's like a total. How do you feel about, um, how do you feel when I introduce you to different, to, to men, how do you feel? How does it make you feel?

Sometimes I'm like, I should, I never really care. I, like, try to be nice and friendly. I'm always like, hey, how are you? But I also, it's never, I think of this, because I'm, you know, I'm 25. Yeah. I just turned 25. I'm 25 now. Weird. But like, how did you know when you were younger? How did you know that it was someone that I liked? What would be like... Because I met them. But how did you know that I was dating them? I mean, you met a lot of men from like, I mean, there, I know a lot of males that are like, you know, a lot of, I mean, I work with a lot of gay men.

I was aware of they were gay mom. I wasn't thinking that broadly, your hairdresser, who I was clearly, he was clearly gay. I wasn't like, are you dating my mom? Like, I was aware. I knew. You explained to me, and I knew. Do you miss? Is there anyone that I dated that you miss? Can I say the name? Well, you can't say their name, but you can describe them. They were someone you went to college with, Columbia.

And they are my favorite always. Oh, yes, he's so great. Because also Grandpa loved him so much, and Grandma loved him so much, and everyone in the family loves him. What do you like about him? he is I think my biggest thing with him was just like he's such a family oriented guy and the way where it's like he loves he loves you but he also loves our family and he loves like see he loves me he loves like he knows and love or love grandpa and grandma and he knows like your siblings and your siblings all like him and I found him to be like super fun and

like lighthearted but also I don't know I just feel like he really fit in and I thought he was a really good match for you and I like how I liked the person you were when you were with him I obviously love you always but I think that he brought out a really good side of you so when I when I broke up with him or when we stopped dating is so mad at you I was so mad I was like mom how did you find out how did I tell you you told me I was like where is he we should go because he didn't live here We didn't leave her all the time. He, like, lived here and then he moved back because he was done working, whatever he's doing here. He moved back and I was like, oh, when are we seeing him again or whatever?

And you were like, I guess, I don't know, whenever you want. And I was like, what do you mean? What do you mean whenever I want? Like that, why is it in my court? And you were like, we're not seeing together anymore. I was like, why? And he told me and I was like, that's a stupid answer. He's such a great guy.

He's such a great guy. And, you know, again, I am looking for. consistency too so it's like just because he's a great guy doesn't mean that he's consistent well not everyone's consistent in life are you consistent i'm pretty consistent i'm pretty consistent i have like i have i have like one path that i follow and then sometimes like i go off of it a little bit so that's not being consistent you literally were like i'm consistent i do one thing all the time but sometimes I don't do that thing. I think that what I really liked about him as well and what I and what you liked is that,

yes, he's super family oriented, which is something that's super important to you and I and to your sister C. And to my parents. And I know that that was like that is something that is something that lacks with a lot of men that I have dated is that they just aren't family oriented. They just are feeling gorgeous and think that, you know,

they're going to be, you know, loving, you know, they think that they're, they think they're attaching themselves to some kind of like, you know, Disney movie and we're real life. And it's just very, you know, sometimes it's really, it makes me very sad because I can see that they are not taking the relationship seriously and that they want to just be like with Kelly Bensonham, which is really, well, I hear that. I'm not going to lie. I don't want to burst your bub and i don't want to expose you every single guy you've dated besides dad obviously because dad is different every single guy you've dated the reason why you broke up with them or things ended was because you said they weren't interested in dating me they were interested

in dating kelly bansombe per son every time and i know what it's like to feel like you've been used like people will i've had people use me try to use me for my my parents, my whole life. I literally had to end the friendship two months ago because I found out that person was trying to use me or was whatever. Like that was upsetting and disappointing. And people are going to do that.

But I can't. And I was actually talking somebody the other day and I was saying, she was like, oh, why are you so? Because when people first meet me, I'm pretty closed off. I always say, like, I never, I don't like anyone I don't know. That's what I always say. And she was saying, she's like, you can't be like that. You need to be more.

open people and I explained to her I was like well I just immediately assumed that someone's going to try to use me for my parents or whatever and she was and then when I explained that to her and she was like actually that makes sense because like my parents no one's trying to use me for my parents and like that's just the tea obviously there are some friends that I have and people that I know a lot of people that I know that I never was scared about that because I've known them for so long most people from New York I'm like you guys don't care so it doesn't really matter my friends from high school my friends from like my childhood friends my friends from life, some of my friends from college, some, like, whatever.

But I think that it's a negative, it's a bad way to live life when you immediately assume that everybody wants to use you or everyone wants things from you. Some people will want to use you and some people will want things from you. That's just the way life is. Not everyone's a good person. And I don't think you should assume everybody's a good person, but you shouldn't always assume that they're a bad person. And it's not like, it's either you say that they're, you always say they're either using

you or wanting to date Kelly Benzimon or not, you know, Kelly or whatever, Kiki, and they are competitive with you, like they want to be you, which I think it's true. It's very, very strange. And competitive, like, I don't mean like competitive, like they want to, you know, run down the street and race me. Competitive, like, to see, like, how many, how many women they've dated or how many women look at them at a restaurant or it's very, really, really off-putting. Do you find yourself on dates talking about men being attracted to you a lot, and a lot of men find you attractive and, like, being, you know, sexy? Never.

Okay, because then I would say. So when it comes to dating, what kind of questions do you think that I should be asking them? You should be asking if you could, go to dinner with anybody dead who who do you want to go to breakfast with that's dead who do you want to go to lunch with that's dead and who do you want to go to dinner with that's dead and who do you want to get a drink with after dinner that is dead who is dead sorry i said that who are who are people that are wrong well you can't i like i would be like oh my gosh i want to go to i want to have breakfast with like napoleon right maybe i'll have breakfast julie caesar

yeah i'm not sure who would be better breakfast time Teddy Roosevelt's getting lunchtime for sure I whenever I go on a date with anyone I find out so much about them and not like what you know when I when I started the podcast they were like okay ask about like how many wives they've had why they broke up and I'm just like you know what that'll be an organic conversation that so I just ask them questions about themselves every single God that I've ever gone into date with my first day has said the exact same thing but do you always only person that's ever asked me about myself that what didn't feel like an interview and i'm thinking to myself okay well these guys are you but like what about like yeah i'm glad

that they're feeling gorgeous that's really nice for me well listen i think are you going on dates with these people are you dating to marry or you dating to just find a partner so when i when you guys were younger i would just go on dates to go on date when you were younger you were going on dates and then you want to find out husband at some point. I know this. Now, in my mind, in my mind when you guys were younger, I would, I would say to myself things like when I was doing my headstands that like the things that I was grateful for are obviously the wellness of my parents and the wellness of you guys and the wellness of

the relationship of my husband. Like that, those are the things that I would always be, say, I would always be grateful for when I was doing headstands. Always constant. I clearly did not date anyone that I would, that was marriage material. That's for sure. You did a people who are marriage material. You just sometimes would leave them. Oh. I like can name like five of them who I think would be a great husband for you. I know. I have to. I love that. Five men. See and I have ranked them. We've gone through the list. This was number one. Our number ones are different, but we're we have pretty similar lists overall. Right.

But I think that you now, I feel like you're still talking about like your future husband. I am a pretty traditional person. I was like, I want to get married and I want to have children and obviously I don't want to get divorced. But if divorce is a thing, whatever, you know, you move, you shake, you move forward, you try to live, you pivot. Why is it that you have that person? No, but seriously, why is it that you feel like that about divorce because a lot of kids had such, you know, they have, they have so much emotional baggage associated with their divorce. Do you feel like, do you feel like the divorce that your dad and I had? No. What? No what? You guys like, I, because my, I was so young already,

I have no memory of my parents being together. So I was never like, oh my God, my parents were together because I was like, my parents were never together. Hello? I was just like, okay my mom was here my dad lives here and that's the vibe and that was it i mean i think that but i think that you are still looking for like a husband even though you're not going to have children with a man anymore you're not you can't have kids anymore sorry you can't you're like sorry mom i'm saying just like like obviously romance is a thing but i think that if you don't share children with someone you don't need to be married with them i think for now you can just you what you should be looking for is who do i like who is this person who's my

life partner. Obviously, if I hate the guy, that's a problem. If he hates the guy, that's a problem, like we've seen before, if he doesn't like someone, maybe we should listen to her. But I think that bottom line, you need to look for a life partner and someone that you can like live and grow old with. Like, think about when you are no longer this, you know, diva that you see as yourself now. And when you, you know, are old and you can't do anything, like you can't you maybe you are like will be in a wheelchair or I don't know I'm manifesting that for my future no I'm not I just like I think that like you need to think about like a long term in that in his way like I think that you need to get out of New York

because clearly you know everyone in New York it's a very small town I know everyone in New York I'm 25 I'm like I don't know any of you anymore maybe look somewhere else but i feel like you want to be with that person all the time i don't know why i feel like you want to be like in the same i can't i'm not i'm not i can't do a long distance like i mean especially now that i'm living no problem oh well but teddy i'm like living in my own apartment for my for the first time in how many years almost 25 years 26 years okay um and i miss you every day, by the way. I miss you. No Miami, by the way. No Miami. You're not dating a guy from Miami. You're not dating a guy from, you can date a guy from, actually, no, you can't date a

politician. You'd be the worst politician's wife. Why? Why would I do it horrible? You chat. And also the politician, honestly, if you're dating a politician, you're marrying a politician, they need to be the star. You clearly want to be the star. You need to be the star. You cannot be like, you're going to be the star of a relationship? You think I'm the peacock? You are the peacock? You are the peacock 100% you think you're not the peacock delusions of grandeur mom you are the peacock I love you so basically I need to look for people that aren't stealing my life no why are why do you think everyone's taking something from you because they do no you didn't say someone I want someone to to support me and be there for me and be a cheerleader they're like oh my god how about my business here's a

business card for your for your friend at the next game I'm like what are you doing like I Did you just give that person a business card? Have you ever seen me, hold on, hold on. Have you ever seen me solicit for real estate in public ever? Yes or no? What does that even know? And that's like a weird way to put things, by the way. Thank you.

Okay. But that reference, what you just made, I get it. That person was not for us. We know next. No soliciting. No soliciting in public. I'm a firm believer, mom, that you need to stop. Like, you need to, obviously you've had these.

these many experiences with all these different guys or whatever. Many experiences with all these different guys. That was like hideous. You've dated it. It made it sound like I'm like. That was horrible. Why did I think like that? Like that's like serious.

Like I'm loving this. No, hold on. No. You've dated some people. Okay. I have dated some people 100%. But I think that you do this thing where you take the baggage from the first, this relationship and you bring it into the next one. Like, this is a brand new person.

This person could be like the best guy on the planet. And you, like, assuming that he's the worst, is not going to be great. Well, I don't like the whole idea of trauma bonding. So when a guy says to me, my ex-wife and how horrible my life is. But that's not trauma bonding. They're trying to open up to you. Men can be emotional. Men can cry.

If men have hardships and they're like, hey, I had this really tough time. I don't want a trauma bond. I don't want them to be like. But trauma bonding is when you are going through something hard together and then you bond. But I feel like, but I'm using. trauma bond like they have a trauma this how they how that's used in a relationship is like one person has a trauma the other person has a trauma and so they try to like bond but that's a way

of connecting with people like there's many people like that have like so many of my friends or like I've only by the way I've only dated guys that have divorced parents love why why because I don't know they come to me I don't know no I don't have no idea why but I've literally any guy I've like have dated or like really like because you're so confident no i think that i don't know why but i think that also like to bond over a shared experience like okay you know what it's like to have divorced parents you know what it's like to raise your to be divorced you know what it's like to have kids with a different whatever and like deal with that situation like those are it's not trauma bonding and it's not with like try to manipulate you it's a way to connect oh we we've we have this shared

experience so what if i met a guy who was living in another state and i moved Where? What state? Move, move. Where? Where? I don't know. I'm just wondering, like, how you would feel. Like, are you moving to, like, Massachusetts? No. That's not happening. No, I'm just wondering, like, how you feel. Could you see yourself living in any other state, by the way? I feel like you do not belong anywhere but New York. I love California. I love the lifestyle of California. I love it there.

Lower. I've never lived there. I've never lived there. I think New York is a hard place to, like New York City is like a hard place to, uh, grow old. Sorry to bring that up again. I don't know why I keep him bringing up. That's so mean of me. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam.

Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just. water gone. Now hold up, isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them.

I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hello, it's Daniel Fischel. Writer Strong. And Wilfredel from PodMeet's World. And we're bringing you Viva Las Content. That's right.

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Boy band, please. Plus, the man who has the longest running comedy show on the strip joins us and gets his props. It's carrot top, baby. And finally, we all L-O-V-E-Hur, Ashley Simpson-Ross, joins us to talk about her upcoming sold-out Vegas residency. It's a full week of nostalgic interviews you don't want to miss. Listen to PodMeets World on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, I'm Janica Lopez, and in the new season of the Overcover podcast, I'm taking you on an exciting journey of self-reflection. Am I ready to enter this new part of my life?

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The div of the people. I'm just like text your ex. My theory is that if you need to figure out that the stove is hot, go and touch it. Go and figure it out for yourself. Okay. That's us. That's us. My name is Curley.

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My dad is a farmer and my mom is a cousin. So, like, it's not like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. Well, 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house.

So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple. podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. What kind of guy do you think I should be with? I think you need someone who I think, are you saying what I think you want or what I think you need?

What do you think I need? First of all, what do you think I need? And then I want to hear what you think I want. I think you need someone who is maybe 10 years, your senior, 10 years, maybe 67, even maybe even like literally old or even 70 okay no joke i'm sorry i think you need someone who's older because i feel like you obviously were married to dad who was way older than you at the time we're so older than you was down now but like it was like he was double your age at the time when you got engaged or first seeing each other now so and then after the divorce you're like i'm only

gonna be with guys who were younger than me but you need to realize like you were you were dating guys who were younger than you, 10 years younger than you, five years younger than you, and you were seeing these guys who were not developed mentally, like, anyway, like, when, like, I think that the older, you always, well, I mean, you did, I mean, at some point you were dating a guy who was in his 20s before his frontal lobe was developed. Men's frontal lobes develop when they're 28. Very nice human. Oh, my God, beautiful human. Wait, not, that's not the one I'm talking about.

I'm talking about that, though. He's a beautiful human. I'm talking about the other one. pre him but there are so many different like I think that you really should be with someone who's older than you at least 10 years because they are older and they have lived life and they have experiences and they know that like they knew what they want let's just hold on let's just clarify because I don't want that because when I was you know I was I was divorced when I was in my 30 like so when I was dating someone in their late 20s. that didn't seem like so different.

No, yeah. It was like 37, 27. Like, it sounds like you're like, my reference was 37 to 27. You're trying to make me into like Caroline Sanbury, like now. I'm not even sure who that is. But 37 to 27, that was the thing. And 27 is one year before 28.

That's what I was referencing, by the way, everybody. Oh, okay. But, yeah, I don't know how to do it, but whatever. I think that you need someone who's older. I think you need someone who is athletic, like likes to ski, likes to do things that you like to do. Mm-hmm. But I think you need someone who is the exact opposite of you.

They are interested in science and math, or they work in, or they worked in, maybe someone who's retired, you know, someone who doesn't work anymore and they just want to like have a slow vibe or they have they're not working anymore but they're still actively doing things i think you need someone who's philanthropic i think what you actually need is someone who's a little bit more than than what you are in every single thing like someone who's a little bit smarter than you someone who's a little bit more philanthropic than you are someone who's a little bit more family person someone who's like almost better than you at every single thing that you pride yourself as

being good at or whatever because i feel like that's the only way you'll actually respect that person is if there's someone you can actually look up to and learn from because it feels like whenever you've had someone who's not as much as you are in any sort of certain kind of way, you are like, oh my God, how do you not know? They're so not, whatever. Do you know what I mean? Maybe someone... Someone that is a little bit better than...

Not like who's better than you, but like, you know, can kind of one-up you, like a one-up, basically. I don't know. I think that that's the way you, what, like, the way that you think. I don't really sometimes I understand your brain, but I think that that's what you would need. And I think maybe someone who has grandkids. I don't know. But I feel like the way that you respect someone is because someone, if they are so, you see this better than you, which is a weird way.

But I don't know why you're like that. But I think maybe someone who has like they have kids that are older, where it's like they're older than me, like kids in their 30s and they have children. I ask, on my first, on the first dates, like I ask these questions to, to, you know, the guys I'm going on dates with, because I do want to learn from them. I do want to, I do want them to teach me new things and to teach me how to be better and teach me, you know, just teach me new things. And I, it's, and I, I feel like sometimes I'm, it's like I'm always the one that's kind of nurturing them or like that's, like, that's, where like I fall into that trap where but I think you like to nurture you are like a mother I want to be I want someone to be to I genuinely Teddy I want obvious first thing I just want to be loved like hands like really genuinely loved like not how not like you know fake love like real love then I want to be protected I want someone to protect me I want someone to protect me I want someone to feel like they have my back. And I don't feel like a lot of men have my back. I feel like the men

that I've dated in the past are always looking to the side to see what I can bring to them or what's around the corner for them. And I'm being honest. Okay. And it really hurts. I mean, I'm, you know, that's hurtful. That's horrible. I make a lot of fun about it, but it really hurts. and it really hurts my feelings when like for example like I'll never forget like when I was in scary island and I was filming scary island and I was just like this these people are this is this is bad news this is not going to this is not going to fare well and so after I left I literally broke up with the guy that I was dating who was such a nice person and I broke up with him because I was just like this is not going to be good for you did I meet that guy yes was he

cooking things? Yes. I think that that guy was not meant. I mean, loved, he was so nice. It doesn't matter if he was like, great for me or not. I broke up with him because I was like, I need to protect myself and I need to protect him. And I don't want to do that. I want to protect a man. I want them to protect me. I want the B to be like, you know, whatever is happening. Don't worry about it. Kid, I've got this. But I feel like you've met guys who are like that. Oh. You knew you've dated guys who are like that who are willing to protect you all these things. I think that if you want to be loved. Maybe I just didn't see them like that.

Maybe we all want to be loved, mom. Everyone wants to be loved. I want to be loved. I love love. I love. I love to love people, okay? Loving people, sharing your love, showing people to how much you love them is one of the most like, it literally is like an adrenaline rush when you like are, you know, are you,

you're in the moment of, you know, showing one of your love language to somebody. It's like when you feel like you're giving somebody else love, it's such an, it's such an amazing feeling to love somebody romantically or platonically and to share that love with them, it's one of the best feelings. All right. What do you think my love language is? I think your love language is gift giving. I do.

I love to give gifts, not because. But it's not always about a big price. I think it's also like, hey, I thought of you. I just love to do something for someone. Most people when they gift give gifts, they buy things. When I give a gift, I actually think about it. think about that person and you know like even the other day watching you for your birthday and just seeing how excited you got you're so excited that wasn't a birthday gift though that was you don't think

that's a gift no oh mom we know when you get those kind of gifts or when i see you so happy that makes me really really happy i know i could tell because you were like get the shoes get these get that and i was like whoa whoa but i think that you are a gift giver but i also think you like to receive gifts you do not you're not a big physical touch person actually that's why you are a big touch you're so touchy you're like so I think that I'm not a physical person I was just thinking about myself I was like me me you're definitely a gift giving on both sides and you do like you don't like words of affirmation

I don't think no because anytime that guy has been like hey you're this you're this you're like wow he's a liar I'm like wow okay he's a liar I guess no that's because grandpa used to tell me that actions speak louder than words don't listen the people say. But I'm a big word of permission person. I feel like if you feel something about someone you should tell them. Like I will always, I write my friends notes. I write my, if I like really like somebody, I write them. You're also incredibly like poetic in every sense of the word. And so you're a different kind of human. But for me, I mean, just because of my industry and my business, I've just heard so many, I've heard so many things. And I just don't see the

follow through of it. I don't know. I think that words of information is a nice thing. I think that you are a physical touch person. I love notes. When someone writes me a beautiful note, that's words of affirmation, mom. No, I know, but that's different. When someone actually writes me a note, that to me is just like so magical. Whether it's a coffee or a car, it's a gift. Whether it's a note or out of your mouth, it's words. Okay. Maybe I should look at, at that differently then. I mean, I'm a big words-affirmation person. I tell people how I feel I like to dedicate poems to people. I'm one of those. Okay? You're also a creative, beautiful mind. Thank you. So what do you think? Should I get married again? No. What do your thoughts?

I don't think you need to get married again. I think that you wanted to have this big wedding because you're like, I never had a wedding. You know what to get married again? I think if you want to get married again, you can. Going to be single for the rest of my life? But that is not what that means. What does that mean? Marriage is like a legally binding. contract if you want to get married because you share property together and all these things at that point but i think that because you've already done the marriage thing and you've been divorced you don't need to look to get married again you can just look to have a life partner like you should be looking stop looking for that big wedding event and start looking for the person that you

want to be with for your life so looking for your husband look for your partner so you know training for this mini triathlon and i went out to train with my friend today and he was talking about he just got divorced and he was talking about how his ex-wife has a lot of money and he did very well, very educated and how the dynamic between them was always separate.

And, you know, it was interesting because as much as I needed to make sure that, you know, pre-nept was signed for specific reasons, you know, if I marry someone, I want to be, in a relationship together. I don't want to be like, you owe me $4.20.

Who's going to pay for? I don't want to be in a relationship like that. I was married to your dad. I literally, I, you know, I paid for a lot of things with you, for your dad. A lot, but I never mentioned it. I'm just saying in general, I have paid for a lot of things. I don't have a problem with paying for things, but I don't like that kind of nitpicky 25 cents who's going to get the coffee kind of thing you don't like a cheap person i i'm not a cheap

person and i don't want to be other cheap person i don't but also i think it's like when people say that but like oh they're like women who don't want a cheap guy are like gold diggers or whatever i'm the kind of person i don't like cheap people even in my friendships i'm like i'm that kind of person i'm like i'll guess it's coffee don't matter it doesn't matter whatever who cares because like I think it's all about it in friendships it all evens out I think that obviously women want to be wooed and all these things but I think that you can try to I also just think it's it is sometimes when women do not offer it all or when because you're at a certain age whatever it can come off um entitled like I think that there is obviously a like if honestly if you're with a true gentleman he's not going to let you pay regardless, but to not offer, I think is sometimes very rude. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.

Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age.

And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeartRadio app, podcast or wherever you get your podcast. Hello, it's Danielle Fischel.

Rider Strong. And Wilfredel from PodMeets World. And we're bringing you Viva Las Content. That's right. We are back in Las Vegas, the city of sin, and giving the people what they want. A full week of Y2K content. Wait, we're back in Vegas? Tell me, Y.

Well, for the Backstreet Boys residency at Sphere, of course. We sat down with Kevin Richardson and A.J. McLean just minutes before they took stage and our very own Wilfredel basically became the newest member of the band. Boy band, please. Plus, the man who has the longest running comedy show on the strip joins us and gets his props.

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With me? Do you remember me talking to you about it? Yes. What did I say? I'm getting a pre-up, but I need a pre-up. And I said, you need a pre-up. And C was like, you need a pre-up. What did you, what do you guys think of me ending the engagement?

What did you guys, were you guys afraid? Were you guys excited? What were you? I mean, I wasn't doing a party. I was obviously concerned for your well-being, but it wasn't like a surprise because we all knew. Were you proud of me? I was proud of you.

I thought I was a little, I was like, girl, you could, I, you could have done this like six months ago. You could have also said no. I tried. You should never started, you should never start a relationship. where you were single and then you get you get engaged you guys were not together on that trip see and i were already livid by the way about that four the deli situation because we you were like you left us whatever we're in the handpins you are in lake geneva love lake

cheneva by the way love wisconsin love the midwest love rockford love garrett's popcorn from chicago illinois you're like those decent popcorn let's talk about love the cheese popcorn in particular not the caramel one but I think that you were scared that people were going to be mad at you, even though at little at Thanksgiving, we were like, no one's came out of you if you say no. I literally told my aunt,

I said, I said, don't book your hotel room. I was wondering why he did it at that time afterwards. I'm like, why did he do it like that? Like, why didn't he do it like with my family?

You know how I feel about that whole thing. I thought it was bizarre. And I thought it was, I felt like he was trying to rush it. I mean, I guess, not I guess. I know that the next time,

I do want to get married I do want to have a relationship a real relationship I do want a solid The big wedding is not happening I think after a certain age it's packing I do want a beautiful bag I want a massive wedding I want a wedding I want a wedding

I want a honeymoon I want I want the fairy tale wedding that a lot of women want Have a honeymoon just going to trip With the person you love I want that for myself I do I want that person to show me That they love me so much

You and Tarzan Laguna trip next week They want me to see like someone special that's what I want but I think that you can but I also feel like you shouldn't have someone makes you feel special you should already feel like I feel some my concern is like you should be these things that you want men to give you or find or make you feel you can already feel on your own and that actually if you can figure out how to make those things and feel those things and do that for yourself already you will be able to find a person faster and better and whatever because you we'll have that because I had such a stellar father that I am looking for a stellar husband

and it's very difficult because they just don't make them like Thomas Coulorne just don't well they make it Thomas Coulart Jr. They make yes my twin is amazing we love we love uncle Tommy we love Tommy he's a great father he's a great brother he's a great uncle to you he's a great husband to Mimi. He's, he's just like, he's such a great, he's so funny and he's so great. He just, I love him so much. He's amazing. But that's the problem. I have, I mean, most women are like, oh my God, I have a horrible relationship with my parents, I'm this, I'm all these issues. And like, I don't have any issues with men. I just like love being around them. I genuinely love being around men. I find them to be funny, charismatic, charming.

like I love their idiosyncrasies like I genuinely love being around men and I know a lot of men do not I have a lot of guy friends I love men I love women I love people do you say you're a girl's girl or you're like more of like a guy's girl I am a I'm a thing I'm a girl's girl like I will always I'm like my my girlfriends are like so important to me and they like my friends become like but I also have really close guy friends as well that I love like who I love so much but I think that I will always try to support women in the way that I, any way that I can. And I will not put up with men doing things in a way that I, if I feel like they're being misogynistic or whatever, I'll be like.

This last weekend, I was at a client's house. And this woman who owns the beautiful house has done me for a long time. And she said to see, she said, you know, she said, I've always wanted to be, closer with your mom. I don't think of how about, but she always puts you guys first. Yeah, you told me this. She goes, I hope we can be closer now. And literally, I almost started bawling my eyes out.

I know, you told me this. I think it's funny because people are like, like, Loanne's always like, Kelly, darling, you're a guy's girl. And I'm like, actually, I am, I mean, I love, I love, you know, hanging around with men and having fun with them and dating and, you know, I love all that. But I'm definitely, I would never say that I'm a guy's girl. I'm so grateful. have you my beautiful daughters like i'm so grateful to have you guys and to like just

watch you navigate you know all these uncharted waters it's like it's been incredible i think that you do like the company of like straight men i think you like the company of gay men too i think that you like the company of men i think that but i think that you i feel like being a girl's girl is about choosing, I don't know, I feel like my sense of girls' girlness is different than your sense of girls' girls' girls'ness. Because I work in a man's world. Every, all my, I work in publishing. No, I know. Actually, there's a lot of women publishing. But the majority of the business that I work in is a man's world. and um i just don't i don't have any like competition with them i don't like put on armor

or when i go to meet someone in real estate or whatever it is my question to you mom is being a girl's girl you have to be supportive of of women for being women in that way so it's like if my friend is acting i think that sometimes you're you can be hard on women as a woman. I think it's also because you're in a different generation than I am. So it's like your idea of being a girl's girl is different because you're not able to actually be as, like, I don't think you're as much of a girl's girls as you think you are because you try to push out this like, you're like, I want to be supportive, I want to be supportive,

but to be supportive, you actually have to want to support these people. And you can't just like say words and do things. is you need to actually want, have the desire first to do so. And I think that if you want to be a girl's girl and you want to be that way, you need to do it in a way and feel it in a way where it's like, I think that people, what are you, Gen X? Are you Gen X? Yeah, you're Gen X.

Like, I think Gen X women in particular actually have a difficulty trying to be, you know, like support women other way because you're still in that way of being taught to compete with women and that women are like like you're you're taught to be like is this woman my friend or my competition and whereas like my generation I think we are much more about like you know I have I have friends who look very similar to me I have friends who look very different than me all these things and it's like even when like a guy like I went to college with girls who were a lot of girls were blonde I'm a blonde girl I have blue eyes I look I went to college with a lot of girls who looked like me

and a lot of the guys obviously liked blondes because there were ones everywhere and it wasn't like we were I was ever like I never have ever gotten to a fight with a friend over a guy or felt like I had to compete with a friend over a guy because my idea is always like if they like her then they should go for her if they don't like if they liked me they would only like me

I think too which is interesting what you're talking about being a girl's girl is that you know there's all these choices and decisions frame your life right so you know there's a lot of things different things that people go through but a woman of my age of 57 like I've seen so many iterations of how women treat other women and to your point you like you guys have the freedom to not see women so much as competition like when I was great getting when I was growing up everyone was like when are you going to get married who's your boyfriend who's this and just like you were saying like, well, even now people ask me if I have a boyfriend. I don't, by the way,

but I just think that mom, I think that the idea. I'm just saying that there's, I'm just saying that going through these different moments in my life, that there have been, you know, moments where people are very, very competitive. And, you know, I grew up in a high school with 20 kids in my graduating class, my twin brother and I, so that's 18 other students. I was modeling at the, by the time I was 15 years old, all over the world, all by my, myself all the time, meeting new people every single day. There was never consistency. There was never that moment where it was like, I could rely on someone or a friendship because I would, you know, they'd be my, I would be living with them as a roommate and then I would just never see

them again. And so I had a lot of inconsistency. Were there cell phone at this time? I don't even know. I mean, no. Do you guys have like pagers? And then when I did have some strong friendships, you know, women were super competitive with me. They're like, how, you know, oh, you only get that because you're pretty. I mean, like, I always felt like I had to be more than everyone else, more educated, more this, more that, just to be, just to be able to be like, you know, for people to say like, oh, she's, she's doing well. But, Mamma, that's actually like, that feeling is authentic as a woman living in the world. Because basically, I'm, I'm of the belief system. that the reason why women today are not still like that we're still not at the place we all want

to be and we all like a lot of women be like we want you know you don't like it's we all know we live in a patriarchal society and like I always say that the reason why that we we do and that women aren't at the level that we want to be or at the like level of power and control that we want to have over our lives over our bodies over the world over whatever is because it's our fault it is because from a young age we are taught okay you need to be the most beautiful the most intelligent the most the thinest the funniest all these things because if you're not the girl next door will be and she's going to steal your husband like we're taught that the only thing in life is for us to find a husband and to have children that's a beautiful thing and that's a that's an

amazing huge part of life and I think that it's something that I want where I want to get married and I want to have children I want to be a stay-at-home mom at some point in my life and I want to do that and I want to raise my kids, but I also understand that my value isn't only in whether a man picks me or not. And I think that a lot of women have been taught that you need to make yourself into the perfect thing so he will choose you instead of understanding that. And so you see all these other women as someone who's against you when you should be seeing them as, you know, this is about sisterhood.

There's always this idea of brocode, but no one really uses girl code as a, like girl who doesn't really like a thing like people don't really support women like women don't really support each other as much as they should because they have this internalized fear that we've been taught this is like young children that our value is inherently given to us by what men think of us which is not a good thing because now it's like either you dress for men or you just for women but it's like what about dressing for yourself and finding who you like and finding who you are and that's why I say to you that I think that before you are looking for this guy that you're seeing who are you and do you like who you are and do you think that you're the person

at your level that you want to be and if you are then you're ready to go but i don't think you need to keep on looking for these people if you don't feel as though you're a healed person enough i mean no one's perfect but i think that if you feel like your nest isn't nesting then there's nothing gonna do you can't have little birdies there you know it's interesting that you say that because being on this podcast has been like a huge like nest for me where I feel safe and I feel open and I've had such incredible conversations with so many different people including you and Tommy and I've just had so I've met so many new friends and I just I finally like I actually feel safe to talk about the things that are important to me and you are very

important to me and I love you love you love you Teddy Ben Simone you're the angel princess of all angel princesses I feel like I was a little feisty today but I do love you I was like pretty feisty I was like rang I was like this thing and I was like wow that was really feisty I ended through a lot tough love my love tough love someone something's wrong with me I mean I'm a little hungry maybe you know what put in this episode that I was a little hangary in the beginning Teddy thank you so much for coming on the pod and being so honest with me I I love you so much. Are you like me navigating dating as a single mom?

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