The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Live in the Vineyard with Tayshia Adams, Scotty McCreery & Morgan Evans

Episode Date: May 21, 2019

Ben and Ashley are on location in Napa, California from Live in the Vineyard Goes Country! Tayshia, Colton's runner up, is on hand to recap this week’s episode of The Bachelorette (nuggets and all). And we discuss Kelly Ripa’s recent comments about The Bachelor franchise.Plus we hang with American Idol and confirmed Bachelor fan Scotty McCreery and Ben’s new crush... country star Morgan Evans. (Morgan appeared on Becca's season of The Bachelorette). Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Oh my gosh. I'm telling you, Ash. You love Napa Valley. I love Napa Valley. That's it. This is your new home. I feel like you could actually move here. You and Jessica want to settle here?

Honestly, this, like, I'm walking around. And it happens every once in a while when I fall in love with the place. I've never been to Savannah, Georgia, I already love it. You know, I love Denver, but I'm walking around Napa Valley, and it feels like home. Yeah, I can, I can sense that for me. It's cute. It's wild that this crazy little podcast.

Why haven't you been to Savannah? If you know that, you think it's going to be a home. I just don't want to be disappointed. Well, my aunt's wedding, this was all the way back when I was 17 years old. She got married off the coast of Savannah and one of those islands, and I'll remember it for life. It's one of those places I want to go back. And I was just 17. That was literally half my life, like my life ago.

And you still remember. And I still remember it so vividly and I, like, have a desire to go back. There's places like that in Michigan, too. Anybody out there listening, I want to hear this. I think this would be interesting for us to read some time. Email us at Ben and Ashley at iHeartmedia.com. Where are your favorite, like, hidden, not hidden gyms? Napa's not hidden, but, like, hidden gym.

Like, where are your favorite gyms? Maybe in the world. Let's go global here. And then also in the U.S., because if this podcast is hitting the road, let's go visit. Oh, my gosh. That would be an amazing idea if we went on the road, but then we also just went to places that you and I had a desire to explore. 100%. That would be so cool.

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and because of Easton and because of Easton who's here and sits with us every week and barely ever gets to chime in but you know what we should do and in depth with Easton one day I think it would get really interesting but on this podcast today we have some massive guests

like actually like they're not almost famous they're straight up famous oh yeah it's funny that they're coming on the almost famous podcast. We should like start telling them when they come on like, hey, we're almost famous. You're not. Yeah. Like, you actually help us. I was going to tell Scottie McCurry that. I was like, I think you might be the most famous person. Let's do that and see how your acts. We have Scotty McCreery on the podcast, Morgan Evans. We have Tasha from Colton's season. We're going to talk hot topics. There's a big feud going down with Kelly Rippa

in the Bachelor franchise. And then also, speaking of famous, Ashley, I didn't get to tell the listeners, but I want to talk a little bit about my time on stage in Marion, Indiana. Is that okay? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You did a play. We were all really confused. You never told me about the play. And then all of a sudden I see on your Instagram story that you're on stage. So what was that all about? It's a big deal. So before we bring on a guest today, I teased at the end of last episode that I talked about this. And my promises do come true. We've all been waiting with bated breath. Here's the situation. My cousin, Olivia, is just an incredible person who has grown up in Swayze, Indiana. It's right outside of Converse, right outside of Sweetser, close to Marion. People out there listening, nobody knows any of that because it's a very small little area. Anyways, long story short, she has been in theater her whole life, and I went to her first play years ago and have not been able to go back because her first

starring role was when I was on The Bachelorette and I was gone filming. And so this is her senior year. of high school of high school it's her last time being in this community theater it's called csa and it's a community theater that puts on incredible semi-professional um uh plays and musicals and this year they're doing greece and olivia reached out to me this is how the conversation went on she goes hey ben would you want to come being in my play would i want to come be in my play in your play is a trick question should i be why should i be in your play and she said it would just mean a lot to me i said okay you have two options here either i come to your graduation or i come to your play

because it's a long flight and they're back-to-back weeks. She goes, I'd much rather you'd be in my play. So I committed to going and being in her community theater is a three-day play. I was Vince Fontaine, which if you know anything about Greece, Vince Fontaine hooks up with a high schooler. Is he out of high school, though? Oh, yeah. He's like the voice on the radio. Oh, is he the guy that hosts the dance party?

Oh, he hosts the dance party. Yeah. So not only am I asked to be in the play, I'm also asked to be the creepy old guy. Which is just fantastic since, you know, my, I'm a little beat up already for turning 30. Shut up. But anyways, I did a three-night stand in Marion, Indiana, and I just want to give them a shout out. They were incredibly kind to me. Marion was incredibly kind.

You know who showed up? Yeah. Jenna Cooper's mom. Jenna Cooper's mom. Oh, my gosh. She from Indiana? She's from Indiana, and she came to say, just like, thank you for, like, supporting Jenna through, like, this crazy experience and super sweet. Anyways, the fans in Indiana.

and just the people in Indiana continue just to make life warmer. I hope we can go and do maybe a podcast in India Center so that Ashley you feel the love. I should go to your hometown and all, yeah, you go to mine. That's a great idea. Let's do it. We already have three dates now. We're filling up fast. We've got to start selling tickets or it's going to get expensive.

Okay. So that was my time on the play. That's why you see a post on Instagram with me and a pink tutu supporting breast cancer awareness. Moving on now, we have a really interesting topic that we want to talk about before we roomed Tasha on. We're talking a little bit this morning over coffee about why the Bachelor franchise continues to stay above the fray. Why viewers can continue to watch really from all ages. I don't know when kids start watching like 14 and up. And I don't know when the appropriate ages.

There's not really a reason to state it. 14 is a good age to start. That's when I first watched my first couple episodes. but the bachelor internally and I think most of these reality shows call themselves like a Tiffany type reality show like the the peak reality shows you know your survivors your amazing races your bachelors they're Tiffany type shows so let me explain how we got on this topic I have been watching the past week or so of Paradise Hotel and I was just telling Ben how I feel like it's such it's just trashy it's a dating show and it's a dating show and it's trashy and I was like every other dating show I watch other than The Bachelor feels uncomfortable for me like if I were to put myself in their shoes I would just feel like a fish out of water just very yucky I don't know I can't describe I can't really describe it I wish I could I think like I'm always been like a conservative dater you know like I've never been like a party girl so whenever

I see like these um what's the MTV show that um X on the beach stuff like that other other cable reality shows as well like what is there about the bachelor that just feels more tasteful and classy and it feels like an environment that i'm comfortable watching and being in what's the difference and i can't exactly pinpoint it but he goes there's actually a term internally for that it's called a tiffany reality show yeah they're standing about the fray i wonder i'm going to say something absolutely asinine and i think i'm going to need a lot of laughs out because of it but I wonder if there's a level to the Bachelor and to these other reality shows that like even though it walks a very thin line they do it well and it's a tad life giving meaning that they're so they are truly you're feeling like they're actually celebrating love you're feeling like there's actually something good that you're getting out of it even though there's moments where like this is trashy the concept's weird holy cow this is odd there's still something to why you're watching the Bachelor of Bachelor in Paradise that you go but there's a reason why and and that reason is worth watching for.

I think the undertone, while it can get dramatic, is still romantic. The undertone is always romantic. The other shows, I feel like the undertone is sex. Great point. And as a result, we feel like we're intruding on somebody's personal space too much to where it makes us uncomfortable. And it starts to, and I think we can feel this in life, right? We've seen this with, and I'm not trying to compare these other shows to porn. That's a pretty drastic comparison, but we know that the studies show that when you watch porn, that it messes with your mind, it messes with your heart, it messes with your sexual function and your sexual instincts.

And so as a result, like I wonder if when we watch shows that are going against the grain too much or pushing sex too much on us, our minds switch to a place of darkness and kind of heaviness instead of being able to watch it with a lightness, like we watch The Bachelor. Now, there's moments on The Bachelor. Trust me, I will never forget Hannah G. And Colton's makeout scene last season. It made me feel all sorts of weird. But it was a moment in a show on a pursuit in their journey. And as a result, it made sense. I was going to continue by saying, on The Bachelor, we see a couple, maybe not a couple,

but we see people date over the course of weeks. And we see them on romantic dates, which leads to a fantasy suite. And it's even called a fantasy suite, which sounds light and, like, enchanting, okay? Enchanting is a great word, yeah. Yeah, but then on Paradise Hotel, for example, the first day, people have to choose a roommate to share a hotel room with. And, like, that's just the difference. A roommate to share a bed with versus going to, yes. other than go into a fantasy suite whatever like you're into it's so far just okay yeah Ashley

you know here and I don't think Jess will get too upset with me for Sarah she won't get upset off I don't know if she's ever got upset with anybody in her life um but like that would that's that would not be where we're at in our relationship right and like that's a very personal thing for me to talk about but like I know for Jess and I six months in like that is that would be an uncomfortable position for us because that's not who we like that's not who we are as a couple that is not a line that we've crossed we've chosen that as a couple right now there's moments that we've had to because of weddings or you know hotel like efficiency but for the most part we we've set a boundary there and as a result like going on a show like that would be completely foreign to our

relationship now so you're jessica's of the world right she's a lot better of a human or has a lot more higher moral standard than i do but the jesskas of the world would never be able to operate on that show right because think about if she walked on to it walked in not knowing maybe what the show's concept was and then they say you got to sleep in a bed with god she's like whoa whoa immediately yeah i'd be like oh this is not the show for me i have to leave i'm sorry but she would look crazy because of it right well she would look like yes she'd be odd girl out yeah yeah which is which is unfortunate yeah because i think there is a level there's definitely a level to life where we need to hold ourselves a higher standard so everybody else does as well

and and somehow some way now i'm not going to say and this ties right into our conversation a second with with tasha we'll talk about kelly rippa um it ties in perfectly it tries in perfectly and it is what is the bachelor that bad now i get it let's laugh about it let's make fun of it but is there some good still to it and as a result ashley again we'll go back to this the proof is in the pudding we say this with generous all the time this is our motto because it gets weird in this world is if one person's life's changed for the better because of something then the pursuit was worth it. You're going to get married because of this show.

Yeah. So is it that disgusting? No. The perfect example was just one or two lines that shows the difference between the Bachelor in this Paradise Hotel is that when you're in Paradise, the morning after, when you're sitting around recapping the night before, a lot of people would be like, did you guys kiss? Did you kiss on Paradise Hotel?

They go, did you guys, did you guys have sex last night? night. I'm like, I'm like, wait a second. You guys are legitimately asking if they slept with this person the first night they ever met. Wow. It was so gross. Is that weird? It was so out of my world. And not crazy to have happened, right? Like, it's not foreign or unfamiliar. There's no, there's no judgment to people that do choose to do that. But typically, it isn't something you're talking about with a group of people around you and being asked about by everybody. That's a private thing you know it happened whatever like we we move on or we shake it off it's not like one night stands don't happen i'm not shaming anybody no but you're saying it's odd to walk into a room and

have everybody go hey do you have sex last night yes i hope that question is never asked to me ever never even in honestly a marriage yeah i don't want my sister i don't want to be christmas morning you walk down to breakfast and mom and dad and your sister go hey did you guys have sex last night jerry gives her a high five and says hell yeah we did. Hey, after the break, we're bringing Tasha on to talk a little bit more, a lot a bit more about the Kelly Rippa situation and also

what's going on in Tasia's life, what she thinks of Hannah and everything good in Bachelor Nation. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on

the OK Storytime podcast. So we'll find soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now hold up, isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. It's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if

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We just pulled Tasha actually from upstairs. She was watching our guest, Morgan Evans, perform. Is that your first time seen him perform? My first time. And he was unreal. So now she wants Morgan Evans to be in paradise, but unfortunately he's married. Can we make that happen? He's married.

We got to clone him, a single clone. I mean, I'm sure we could work something out. Let's talk about this for a second. Yeah. Because he has this way about him, right? Where Easton and I are sitting there listening. Yeah, you were charmed. I was charmed.

You were. I was charmed. Easton and I both were, we had our hands on our chins and we were gazing longingly at each other and at the ceiling and around and at Morgan Evans. What is it about it? He has like confidence and a little swag to him. I don't know. And he doesn't try too hard, I feel like.

Yeah, guys who are naturally good-looking, plus they have the swag and they sing country music, that's the perfect tri facto, basically. Like, that's why Sam Hunt is as famous as he is. How does it feel in life when all of a sudden you have a crush? Like, you just had a crush as of 10 minutes ago. Like, do you feel a little weird right now? I mean, a little bit. I'm kind of like. Giddy?

I get a little giddy. I have butterflies in my stomach. Tasia and I were talking about how it's, well, Jared and I had this argument all the time. I'm not sure if we brought this up on the podcast. But since I'm such a natural fan girl, I, like, will be like, oh, my God, he's so cute. Or he's hot, you know, like, whatever. And I have to, like, almost do it on this podcast and we talk about the guys from the cast. Right.

And I have to be, like, a little giddy over everyone, right? But Jared thinks it's such a double standard that girls can get away with being like, oh, my God, he's so hot. He's so hot. He's so cute. And, like, you know, whatever, no big deal. But if Jared were up there talking to guy friends, being like, oh, she's so hot, she's so hot. It's like not okay. It would be so wrong.

Yeah. Like, it's just not allowed. He just doesn't like me saying complimentary things towards other guys. But it is overall in the big picture, something that girls get away with that guys don't. Like, even my mom, she'll be like, oh, my God, he's so cute. If my dad ever said, oh, my God, she's so beautiful. My mom would look at him and, like, slap him on the head. 40 years later, right?

That's a good point. How do you feel if Jess were to talk about a guy's appearance? I mean, I don't think I'd mind. You don't think anything of it, right? No. I mean, if she was like, oh, he's so, yeah, she does it all the time. Like, even with her, like, friends, boyfriend. But, yeah, he's a really good-looking guy.

See, we can get away with good-looking. Like, Jared would be like, she's a good-looking girl. Okay. Well, she would say, I think she would say it. And, yeah, I wouldn't think twice. But you, I'm sure. Oh, she wouldn't be down, yeah. I would never say that out loud.

Like, oh, she's a pretty girl, but I would never say, hey, Jess, isn't she really pretty? Yeah. Yeah, or, like, if we sat and up, if we sat upstairs and watched Morgan Evans perform for brunch. and I say it was the reverse like it was a woman who was up there doing it and we came down and just or somebody was here and we're like I was like oh wow that was good for me like I don't think she'd love that that is definitely crossing the line oh he was great though so our two guests from country music on this podcast today scotty mccreary and Morgan evans super talented super charming really great and uh and tation

you have all those qualities as well. Oh, thank you. We want to start this not talking about you, which is unfortunate because it's great to talk about you, but we'll get to that. Okay. We're finishing up a conversation about The Bachelor and why it seems to be what we're calling the Tiffany of reality shows, where it kind of goes above the fray, yet walks a line where people are criticizing it and people go, oh, this is uncomfortable, this is weird, this concept seems maybe gross, but yet it doesn't feel.

dirty to watch all the time there's ultimately a larger love story being displayed now recently in the news if you've been watching Kelly Rippa the host of the Kelly and Ryan show trashed the dating franchise the Bachelor and Bachelorette even though she is part of ABC Network instead of reading the quote let's listen to the clip I thought that one got married to the guy that was here the guy the guy Colton was here last that was the bachelor but they didn't get married this so she It comes a bachelor's.

No, it's a different woman. Oh, an entirely different person. Entirely different person. You guys, you know how I feel about the show? It disgusts me. And I thought that I was disgusted because I couldn't stand the idea of 25 exceptional women fighting over one ordinary fella, in my opinion. Right. You know how I feel, ladies, we are too special to be arguing over a guy.

you know the words it disgusts me obviously were said from kelly and it's relating to this season of the bachelette with uh hannah b i want to know your point on this what do you think about the show being disgusting so so my first point to this and i'm obviously i'm going to take the position of being defensive of the franchise at some level there's obviously criticisms that you can use and say one is i don't love that kelly is acting unfamiliar with the franchise right she's done her show and had every bachelor and bachelor and bachelorette on for the last how many years she knows how this show works right like i hope she knows how the show works but doesn't even sound like she's really invested

any time in getting to know the show right so she's shocked that there's a new bachelorette that's coming from the franchise just amazed that there's a new girl every year yeah there's a new girl every year yeah like oh my gosh there's a new one another one yes mrs rippa there is a new one every year that's the one thing that is surprising to me the next is her the word she uses that it's disgusting why is it disgusting team first that word is very harsh i think yeah and rude yeah She's saying it's disgusting because there are so many people going after one person they're fighting over them. Yeah, I don't know if that's the appropriate term. I find it offensive because obviously there's love stories that come from it, mine included.

So I hope that the way that my love story unfolded, even though it didn't happen in like the traditional bachelor, bachelorette setting and heaven paradise, is, I don't want it to be ever thought of as gross. that never would have ever come to my head. Right. Well, I think the biggest issue here is that it's kind of reverse sexism because here she is saying that all 25 women on this show during the bachelor season are extraordinary. She doesn't really know them, but they're all exceptional, right? Right. And then the guy that they're going after is ordinary.

Why is she assuming that he's ordinary? He's not ordinary. And I'm taking offense from all of my friends who have been the bachelor that they are not ordinary men. I agree. And I would never refer to them as that. they are truly extraordinary they are not saying anything less of the women because all these bachelorette's are fantastic they're like so strong they're the they had the best personalities they're beautiful they're smart like they're wonderful women but that doesn't mean that the men a good handful of them

aren't spectacular my fiancee included in this right yeah and then like she's also basically not even acknowledging the fact that it does reverse the situation reversed versus and then there's 25 guys after one woman so is she saying that all 25 of those men are ordinary and they're going after one extraordinary woman just because just based on sex doesn't mean you are you're not extraordinary right I don't know I think she put her foot in her mouth on that one honestly I uh equality is obviously an important topic today and in all matters yeah equality the pursuit of equality doesn't mean that the other side has to get out of balance right equality is equal both sides are equal right people or humans i think this i think

she's walking a line that she does she doesn't exactly know what she's walking into because as you said i would hate to be categorized and stereotyped as being ordinary i don't know i'm under the belief that there is no single human that's just ordinary that every human has a story and that once you know somebody's story it's complex and you it's you know as we say in a few weeks our theme with Amanda Stanton is once you know somebody's story it's hard to hate them there is not one single person that's been birthed and lives on this earth and that has survived and thrived on this earth that is an ordinary person so at no level is it fair to categorize me you anybody else into that and anybody off of the show into that now you can criticize the show

I get it yeah I'm fine if she was like I don't like the structure of 25 30 people going after one person that's a little bit weird to me it makes me feel awkward that's one thing but you can't just group these people together and call them extraordinary ordinary. As if she knows everyone. Yes. The, yeah, you can, you can criticize the show. The show is fair game. Do not criticize souls.

Do not criticize humans. Because what you're, you know, as a, as a woman, what she's trying to protect, she's honestly harming by the words that she's using. And that, that's just clear. That, that there is nothing about what she said that's healthy. that's life-giving, life-breathing, that's pursuing, pushing us in a better position. What does she want the show to be canceled? It's not going to get canceled. So what is she doing in return?

Does she want to hurt and affect every person that's on this show? Well, good work, Kelly. You have a voice and you've done that. And as a result, there's people standing up in favor of the show. And non-fans of the show saying, let's watch yourself here. These are real people dealing with real situations. And we've signed up for it, right? let's celebrate women and support girl power without having to bash guys

bash guys while doing it weird thing weirdest part of it you're on the same network like ultimately you're on the same team what are you doing anyways uh we had to talk about it it's been a huge topic all week chris harrison spoke up about it and uh and obviously it's all over the airways us weekly has covered it people have covered it it will be a topic for a little bit i think it's going to fade soon. The point of all this is there's no, uh, there, I think to sum all of this up when everybody around the table saying is, there is not one ordinary person that has ever done the show. And I believe there's not, and we believe there is not one ordinary person that has ever walked this earth. That everybody is extraordinary, or at least we should start thinking that

way. So with that, the extraordinary Tasia is on the podcast. Tasha, let's talk about you. All right. Tisha. Yes. 28 years old from California. phlebotomist, or at least, as we talked about in the last podcast, we think so. And you're on Colton Underwood's season of The Bachelor. Okay. Ashley, I think I want to start here. Let's go back to Colton's Season, The Bachelor. Okay.

After all of it's done and said, what are your thoughts on Colton? I really like Colton. I think he was very sweet to me. He has a big future ahead of him. I do think that he has a little bit of growing up to do. But I think the world of him. I'm always interested in this, and I don't think we've ever asked a guest. You know, you had a relationship with Colton.

During your time on this season, it was growing, and it was exciting, and you were getting to know each other, and you didn't know where it was going to end, and all those things. And now we're months removed. He is obviously with Cassie, and they're pursuing their relationship, as healthy as we hope they are. but now you know he let's look at him as an ex right even though it might be hard to do okay does it feel like another world ago like do you feel connected to him still does he does he

have an emotional place in your life you know I thought I had moved on from it um but I'm not gonna lie I did see him at stage coach and it kind of my stomach kind of you know my heart dropped a little bit not because I missed him or I still am in love with him but It's just he did have a little special place. I totally get that. It is so weird. For my women tell all, I was like, you know, I got on the plane the day after I was dumped. I was totally different situation from you. I was like seven place. You were top three. Yeah. But I saw Chris Souls come out on stage four months after, you know, I left the show. And like it felt like I was seeing a crush walking down the hallway towards me again. It was so weird. Well, I feel like it's, you're in such an interesting. intimate setting being on The Bachelor. I feel like you're thinking about this person all day, every day, and you're really trying to see them be in your future. And it's just kind of weird that the second you get eliminated, it's all cut off.

Like, it's gone. You don't really talk to them. You don't have their number to text them or whatever. But it's also probably healthier that way? Much healthier. And you get over it faster. Oh, 100%. But at the same time, I don't know if you necessarily have closure.

You know what I mean? No, no closure. So even though I did see him at. after the final rows, you know, we're still on TV. It's not like I'm sitting at a booth with him at a restaurant and we're just like, okay, it was good. Thank you. You know?

So, yeah, my heart kind of dropped a little bit. What was his reaction to seeing you? Well, I was with a couple of girls. Okay. And I think he said hi. Yeah, what you'd expect. Like, he handled it fine. I mean, to be quite honest with you, it would have been nice if he would have came up and

said, like, hi, how are you doing? And not that he needs to be interested in me or just, but we did have, you know, a little bit of a relationship. He just like, hey, he kind of just threw his little piece sign up. He's like, hey. And now it's just like, hi. Let's pause for a thing. Let's talk about this for a second. I haven't quite got this yet.

Is the peace sign like a thing or is it just his reaction? I think that's just his thing. I do this thing with my hands. My buddy Dylan, my best friend from high school, he does this weird thing with his hands when he like sees people and he like moves his fingers. kind of like a creepy wave way and he doesn't mean to it's just like his reaction right yeah so is colton's reaction like a peace sign like is that like his what he is that just like his thing i think it's his acknowledgement it's like i'm acknowledging you hey peace sign yeah huh because it's in pictures a lot it doesn't need that he's saying peace he's not saying peace

that's like his version of going like hi is a peace sign oh i didn't know i see in pictures i was a little confused because like you don't see a lot of people throwing up the peace sign He's bringing it back. I mean, to be quite honest with you, I always, well, I used to throw up the piece sign quite a bit. And now I'm trying to avoid that. With, like, the ducklips. Not doing that. Oh, that was a big thing back in that.

Yeah. So he threw up the peace sign at you. Which is fine. I wasn't expecting this in. Yeah. But you told this man that you were falling in love with him just a matter of months ago. It was a little awkward. I just wish, like, he was with Cassie.

Yeah. And she said hi. And it wasn't like weird. I don't know. I don't know how, yeah. It's a good conversation because I don't know how you handle those. those moments, right? I mean, if right now I ran into Lauren

with Jessica on my arm. No, that's not the same. That's like you running into a girl from your season, hence Amanda, and you would be way cooler with Amanda. Yeah, and you would be cooler with Jojo or anyone. Yeah, I guess so. Yeah, because, like, it is something you've shared together. It's something that you know is a little weird.

I wonder if in his head he just didn't know how or what to do. And I think that's, that's what I mean by, I think, growing up. Yeah. You know what I mean? He honestly could have just came up and been like, hi, how are you doing? Hope you guys are having fun. Like, I'm not expecting, like, a huge conversation. But that would have just cut the tension slash the awkwardness.

And I'd be like, okay, we're cool, as opposed to, does he hate me? What's going on? It's awkward, you know? C&X is weird. Seine X's from the show is odd. I can't imagine that Cassie is putting pressure in him not to talk to the other women. Yeah, I mean, she hangs with Kailin all the time. I mean, I hugged her.

I said hello to Cassie. this is a in bachelor nation you're going to see these people this happens all the time it's always been an interesting topic to me is when you see the bachelor that has dumped you what is your reaction i asked amanda um she's here in nappa with us amanda stanton is i've asked her you know what was it like your thoughts on me after the show like did you hate me were you angry at me um you know i ended up proposing to your best friend like were you happy for us or those things i think for a while it is a little confusing because you have a relationship You care about this person and then all of a sudden at a rose ceremony, which this is one part of this show that is completely odd.

You say goodbye and you're done. Or in the case, a fantasy suite door. A fantasy suite door. Yeah, you're done. Yeah. It's odd. Tasha. It's weird.

It's a weird deal. I'm sure Colton will navigate this thing the best he can. It sounds like he tried. But I get it. The thing that sucks here is there's no closure. Yeah. And a piece sign at a concert isn't going to. to help that.

Not really. But I don't know what would. But it's cool. It's cool. I know we sound like broken records because every week, whenever we have a guest that is quite possibly going to be on Bachelor in Paradise, we ask, so who do you want to see there?

Who do you want to see there? But it's a legitimate question, and we know the producers are asking you the same thing. Of course they are. But isn't it nice that they ask? I mean, it's cute that they want to be little matchmakers and try to help us out. And they just ultimately want us to like fall in love and help us out in any way they possibly can, which I love, but also. I felt it was ridiculous my first

time around, to be honest. I was like, I'm not going to like anyone. I was like if you want me to stick around, you're, I don't know what you're going to do. You have to come up with some weird method to keep me around because I don't like anyone. Like, I don't like people. Like, I don't like guys. Like I just, I was like I like a guy once every two years and I'm sure you don't have that guy in your catalog. Well, look at you now, baby. Look at you now. Look at the irony. It could not be more ridiculous. Planning a wedding. But Tasia, try to take it as seriously as possible right now.

Who do you actually think that you could be interested in? Well, there are some attractive men on Hannaby season. Let's talk about that real quick. So a couple names come to mind. See if I name any of them, right? Okay. Peter, the pilot. Oh, he's cute.

Who's like you, Ben? Do you see the resemblance? A little bit, yeah. He seems like a better dude. me you can fly a plane i can i mean i can mow my lawn um con the conners jed and john paul jones are some of the names that pop off also fans are calling matt donald who was released last week the new season's grocery store jo i don't think i agree with that but i do think he'll be in in paradise are any of those names of the guys yeah you know who else uh people are talking about

who's not on our list here that i think last week we raved over over and over again he was a super nice dude is Mike. Yeah, Demi and Katie had really good things to say about him. They were there watching him in first person. So, any of those names? Yeah, I think some of those guys are pretty cute, actually. Okay, but come on. Connor.

Which one? Connor S, right? Let's talk about jaw lines. I think we can compare him by jaw lines. Connor S was like the, I feel like, like that all-American guy who was 24. or they kissed on the couch inside the dining room. I know.

That's got to be him. I think you're talking about Connor. Connor S. Yes. Connor S. Yes. He's adorable. He's adorable.

He has like a cute baby face that I just, I don't know. I like. I can sing country. If he can, then it's game over. See, I love how like not seriously you're taking this. And I can't wait to watch the week one of Paradise. And you'd be like, I really like him. This is silly.

Who else? I also think Tyler's pretty cute. Oh, yeah. Everybody thinks Tyler's cute. Yeah. I mean, how could you not, though?

Yeah, he's that good looking. But I also like the fact that... So you don't know? That's what my dad always says. I'm like, Dad, isn't that guy attractive? He's like,

I don't know. I think, what do you mean? You don't know? No, I'm pretty... I think, like, I can tell when a guy's attractive. Like,

but sometimes it's a little shocking. Like, that guy doesn't look like, he wouldn't stand out to me. Like, Conor's a lot better looking to me than that guy. I was upstairs at Morgan Evans with googly eyes. Like I think that dude's good looking. Yeah. That's because he is.

By the way, I just want to let everybody know that's listening. If you hear some background noise, people walking through, music playing, drums beating. We are live in Napa Valley listening to Morgan Evans and Scottie McCreary at a brunch concert. It's beautiful. At the blue note. At the blue note downtown Napa. It's amazing. Just such a beautiful place.

Wine is flowing. Drinks are coming in. Morgan Evans and Scotty and then also gone west with Colby Calais. Amazing. Can you share your story of your daydreams with Colby Calais? Yeah, we'll get back to Tasia in a second, but let's talk about me. So I was weird. I walked upstairs.

Right now we're downstairs and so it's a little quieter for us. But again, you can just hear some background noise. But anyways, we walked upstairs to grab some food and I walk in and this woman just starts belting from the stage. Yeah. And I'm like, wow, her voice is crazy and a guy next to me. the brunch line goes yeah that's colby calais and i i kind of did your thing my heart skips a little bit because i have for a long time dreamed of what like had a fantasy and like

really one of my only fantasies i've ever had is waking up with a wife that could sing to me the way colby calais sings oh my god so then i asked well does jess have colby's voice or can she sing i don't know if she does it's maybe a daydream that won't come true for you It's okay. You always have the day. Colby is beautiful. Her voice was magical and I never thought I would see her in person. So when I was shocked, it was like, there's like a, you know when you, yeah, you know

when you fantasize about somebody and you make it up in your head and you have this crush as a kid or as a high schooler or as a college or as like a 20 or a 30 year old and all of a sudden like you see that person and you're like in person for the first time and you're like I feel like creepily we've had a relationship for like 10 years. That's kind of how I felt upstairs. It's like, why are you up there with another man, her husband? That hurts me. And I'm in the audience and I've got to watch.

It's not cool. So yeah, anyways, Gone West, Skada McCreary and Morgan Evans playing upstairs and Tasha sitting down with us on the podcast. Tasha, let's get back to you. So we've talked about Hannah B's guys and who you're into. What about from past seasons? Past seasons. Let me think, let me think.

I think Blake's cute He's going to have a hard time on Paradise That dude is going to be I think like the Tashas Of the world I have a theory about this Okay let me finish this real quick I think Blake is going to have a hard time

Because I think he is a really good dude He's a good friend of mine He's really good looking And I really like Blake I think he is going to have the Dean stuff Where some women are going to be after him Because he is a good guy And he's worth the pursuit

and he's going to be into some women as well and they're going to be pursuing each other back and forth and I think he's going to get himself into trouble, my theory. So going in to Paradise for the girls, they will only see, well, this year's a little bit different because the Bachelorette started so early. But normally the girls only get to see about two episodes of the Bachelorette season

before going to Tate Paradise. So they don't really know the guys that well. You know, they've only seen maybe three to five minutes of each of them on screen. at that point and normally it's the guys from past seasons who they've looked up to as like almost celebrities the guys that they want to see going in because they're like oh my god he's like such a big deal right so cute like i used to watch him as a fan so it's like getting your celebrity crush in paradise versus these guys that you know they're new and you don't know anything about

so that's why i feel like blake is going to be a big ticket you what do you think about that theory I do. I really do. I mean, I think all the way around Blake is going to be a big team. I also think you're, I don't know who else we've talked about being there. I mean, Chase, I could see being in paradise this year. I think he, he's cute. Yeah, he's going to have. Why wouldn't he do it? Like, why hasn't he done it yet? I don't know. I mean, he's done X on the beach. You should definitely do Paradise. I know. Dean, I think, we'll probably be there. We've talked about it before with him. We joked about it. He hasn't confirmed. confirmed Blake like those guys are really good dudes who I like and they're going to be big tickets and then you have a group of women who are going to be there who I think are incredible also we've gotten to know most of you through this podcast yeah and I think this year's paradise we'll have an incredible cast yeah I'm super excited an incredible cast so Blake from past anybody else it's always fun I like this game you know were you a fan of the show beforehand I was, but I really only watched Benz season and Jojo season, to be honest with you.

Like, I watched here and there, the others, but yeah, okay. So, no names really stick out to me. Anyone else? No, Tasha, here's my next question for you. Okay. Because here's one thing that I hope doesn't happen. What? But it's great for us when it does.

Is we like you. You're a friend of ours. You've been on the podcast now a couple times. We've traveled to Napa together. We've spent some good time hanging out. um no judgment on from this podcast trust me we've seen it all we've done it all we've been in and all you should ask ashley she's done some crazy things and you should ask me i've done some wild things as well his isn't on tv some of them um had some weird stuff happen but

people come on the podcast before paradise end up going on paradise and we see an emotional breakdown i know we see we watch our friends on television just lose it or flourish into love if you were to predict right now how paradise plays out for you what would you predict happens um i might have a breakdown i think so really why i feel like i'm at a place where i'm really happy with being single and being me but i want a relationship And so I feel like if I'm going to put myself out there, I'm going to be 100% authentic in myself and really like lean into the situation. So I'm going to be vulnerable and I feel like I might just give my heart to someone. Oh, wow.

This is why I kind of laugh because I watch you guys just being so innocent and naive to the whole the power of paradise. No, but I've heard. What do you mean by this, Ashley? It's just different than it is than the Bachelor was because with The Bachelor, it was more of a sorority. It was all about hanging out with your friends, cooking, drinking wine, traveling. And you barely ever saw The Bachelor, you know? I mean, you got more time with them because you got so far. Yes.

But as far as, like, your day-to-day activities, 75% of your days were just hanging out with the girls. In Paradise, it's a dating experience completely immersed in like your, it's your whole life because you don't get to escape the people that you like and the people who are trying to date the person that you like. Why am I doing this? Why would I put myself in this situation again? But it's also like a way for me, if I compare the two experiences, was much more of a growing and self-learning process. Well, that's how I felt about The Bachelor.

Yeah. And that's why I'm thinking about doing Paradise too, because I transformed so much. One piece of advice. Yes, please. Because Ashley and I have been around this for a while. I've never been to Paradise. Okay. But we have done the podcast and talked to many people and seen the ups and down.

of this franchise, right? People coming off the show as a villain and being criticized and people coming off the show as the beloved and being celebrated. Don't be scared to be vulnerable and let your heart go. Because ultimately, even at the worst case scenario, it ends in heartbreak, I don't think you'll regret it. No. And we haven't seen anybody come on and go, I regret it. What we have heard is people come on and say, I wish I would have allowed myself more of an opportunity to explore it. Now, pain can happen. Right. And that's kind of why I say, I think I'm going to have a breakdown just because, like, I feel like I'm going to be vulnerable and I'm going to put myself out there. And I don't mean it in a bad way. But I just feel like I'm really going to lay it all out there. Yeah. Yesterday, you've been saying that you think you may have been too careful about how you appeared on The Bachelor.

Well, it's not that I was like trying to be something. I wasn't. I just, I was a little more reserved. You didn't see my silly side a bunch, which. As you all know, I am pretty loud, outgoing, and silly. But that's why I want to bring to Paradise this summer. I want you guys to see more of my fun side as opposed to a composed. Uh-oh. We've heard this before. We heard this before Dean and then I was blackboxed twice during this season. I'm going to let my fun side out.

And I'm hearing Dean talk about getting his little Peter touched. Oh, wait. That's so funny. But you're right. You can't hide as much in Paradise, though. So if you did feel like you're reserved in The Bachelor, I think it gives you a space and environment you can get away with being reserved. But I think in Paradise, just like an emotional explosion. Yeah, great.

Well, it's great. It'll be fun. Here we go. We're going to get to get a good notation on a whole new level. All right. My last question before we jump into the recap for this episode, episode two of Hannah's season, is, have you been in touch with your ex-husband at all? Ooh, no. So he, you don't know how he's been affected or.

feels about you being on the bachelor um he did actually reach out to me once while the season was playing and he said he was proud of me well that's nice yeah and he said um that he was happy that i was being myself and he wishes the best for me so that was nice there we go um that was before you know that was probably like the third episode pretty early the uh he didn't know how far you got what a queen what his thought of are now. I don't know. I don't really talk to him. Tasha, we're going to take a break here for a second. When we come back,

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week a lot maybe not here on access he seems so sweet motivated kind carrying the whole We need to get him on the podcast and more about him. Let's get hashtag justice for chasing trending and get this man on Paradise. So he talked a second ago about what's his face? Peter the pilot? No. Matt Donald being the next Joe is chasing that guy now. The most memorable exit.

But I also thought Jason was another memorable exit. Both of them left too early. They both showed a lot of light that day. They stood out and then they were eliminated. night one i i missed those old days where you didn't know anyone who was eliminated night one yeah what do you think i think he is so cute yeah he's adorable and he's a pilot he was so threatened by peter coming in with his his uniform on and and giving hand of the wings yeah he's like oh darn it i really i really lost the pilot position i'm surprised i'm really surprised by chases

okay next one is from uh i'm gonna say lease it's l i s e i'm I want to make sure just to say the name because I'm sure she's out there listening and Lice, Lease, thanks for sending the email. It's called Luke P. I haven't heard anyone mention this, she says, but my husband noticed something right away with Luke P. When he came out to comfort Hannah after the Scott thing,

she said she was so cold and then again on the couch that she was freezing. He never once offered her his coat. That is someone who is out for himself, she says. I am marrying the man who famous. gave Caitlin his jacket once he was eliminated. What a man.

I remember that moment and everyone was spooning and I had just gotten home from Paradise and he had just like just dumped me and I was like he's so perfect. Why can't I be with him? It's something about a guy giving you his jacket.

It's just yeah. It's nice. Yeah. Yeah, it is nice. And you know what? Perhaps Luke was like, well, this gross bright blue jacket of mine

would just really clash with her beautiful dress so I don't want to ruin the outfit yes you know it's funny here we have another email from lauren saying failing at comforting hannah how is no one talking about this she says luke p goes out to comfort hannah when she needed a break and she's sitting there shivering and saying that she's so cold and this guy doesn't even offer her his jacket this is such a look into luke's personality not into him now i get that maybe he's just naive to the situation she doesn't see it doesn't fully have clarity on what to do however it is a mistake and i'm telling you i in my history of watching the show on social media too have never seen a reaction

more against a first impression rose winner than luke p this week it was a failure on his part but i think it just it was a little bit the other things that kind of went alongside of it that made people go something's up here the intro package This is real moment. Yeah, I think it was Nick who famously always says just the most real thing. He's really good at it. He said something along the lines of, I feel bad for Luke P. He had so much sex that God had to intervene.

It's kind of what he said. He's like, I was having so much sex that I was in the shower one day. And God was like, stop having sex. I mean, here's the thing. I believe fully that God intervenes and comes into our lives. random times, especially in moments of, like, depletion or darkness, I do think it was the way it was said that was like a little bit off. Like, you know, like, it just made it feel like, what are you really trying to tell us?

Like, I'm a good-looking guy. Why do you have to tell us he was in the shower? Yeah. That was, you know, I have girls always wanting me. Didn't he say that? Yeah. He was like, I'm, you know, I'm attractive guy. I had a lot of girls coming after me.

I took advantage of it in college. Why did he have to tell us that he found God while in the shower? It was like he was trying to give a image for us. Well, he was in the shower. shower when they like did it then yeah they took a shower it was showering and they were filming it yeah it's weird yeah it's kind of like he's not doing a lot to help himself right now he's not staying in the shower so many times makes me feel like in legally blonde where she's like and you're washing her hair in the shower we all hear hope um that luke p has a redemption story coming up

because right now he isn't doing a lot to help himself the fans reaction to him hasn't been extremely positive i don't know i've still stayed clear of how this thing ends so i'm pumped watch it play out so far he is the frontrunner we all are hoping for a turnaround we've seen it many times before you the best the most drastic turnaround in history is colton right colton goes from being everybody's least favorite to everybody's you know favorite within a few months he was never a least favorite he was not celebrated for a while after paradise he was definitely criticized more than in paradise people were definitely criticizing him but i never like had anything against him.

He was confused with the Tia situation. We're very confused with him being the bachelor. Yeah. There's a lot of confusion. Okay. Maybe I shouldn't have gone as drastic as everybody's least fair. People confused. There was things against him.

Same with Luke. So we're hoping Luke has his redemption story. Are we, though? Or do we just want to see him? I don't want to see anybody burn up in flames. Wasn't he there after the final rose or when Hannah was announced? Yeah. Okay.

Well, I liked him then. Okay. I thought he was charming then. Yeah, like he was very into her. But now I kind of feel weird about it. So let's see him come back, right? I mean, we do ultimately, and Ashley and I always say this, Tasia, on this podcast, like, it's the part of the fun in the game and watching the show is like seeing people and then like criticizing judging because you're doing from a distance. And we know how it affects you.

Ultimately, the best part is when they walk off of this in the good light. And like they have like their last week is like one that like the nice celebratory music's playing and they run off into the distance, you know, single and go on to paradise and find somebody. But sometimes it doesn't happen that way. Yeah. Ben has been saying that you can't really hate someone or dislike somebody once you get to know them. And I think at this point in the season, it's so easy for us to criticize and just make

lighthearted fun, even like poke out appearances because we don't know them. But the second they come into our studio and we do get to talk to them, we never make fun of them again. No, we like it. We just want to talk as fans right now. I want to talk to you guys when we were talking about. these guys that's early on the season as if I'm sitting there on the couch watching with you. I don't want to be like, I don't want to give him too much credit because then you guys would

be bored. So let's see what Luke P does coming up next. Jacket decision. If he sat in studio right now, I'd tell him, that was a really terrible move, dude. You've got to be better. I hope you get better. And if you don't. Maybe he was just really nervous at night.

We'll give it to it. He didn't seem like it. Anyways, from. Definitely not. From Don. She goes, I'm now a Hannah fan. To our point, exactly. times change opinions change i have to say i was not a fan of hannah b being the bachelor's she says

but now i have seen episode one and i love her i'm so happy to see someone who is so real if this is all an act i don't want to know she is raw real and adorable it reminds me here of um an instagram story i saw with one of our favorite people who also does an i heart podcast with beckett tilly called scrubbing in with beck and tanya tanya had an instagram story that says I want to start a Hanna Bee fan club now because I love her so much. People are loving on Hanna Tasha. What are your thoughts on Hanna B?

I like Hanna B. I think that I got to really see her grow on Colton season and towards the end of the season, I was a huge fan of her. She is crazy, but in a good way. Like she is very raw. She is very real. She will call you out.

She just has a lot of emotions. She has a lot of emotions. She has a lot of emotions. And sometimes on TV, people will be like, you're crazy. It's like, no, no, no, no. Let's alter the word crazy and call them emotionful. Yeah. It's crazy.

Having emotions and displaying them is not a sign of craziness at all. But I feel like in this kind of situation, you need to be like that. Emotion filled. Emotionful. I like that. Emotionful. I mean, you know if that's a word. I don't think of that.

So, Tasha, answer us this. you would know, is what we're seeing right now in act? Oh, definitely not. Cool. We like Hannah. But told you so guys out there who didn't believe that she'd be good. Ashley did. Ashley did.

Last one's from Lara, L-A-R-A. Has to be Lara. Laura. Sorry. Either way. Hannah's Silence, it's titled. What's up with Hannah's Radio Silence on Instagram? I thought the lead always promotes the show, especially the premiere, yet we have nothing.

Could this mean she is completely heartbroken and broken and burn from her season. Ashley. I have the answers. Okay. What's up? Okay. Her season didn't stop filming until last week. So she literally didn't get her phone back until like the past couple days. And she did Instagram for the first time on Wednesday. How crazy is that that as we're watching her love story begin, it is then ending at the same time. It's so bananas. Like it's never been like this. But I think it's kind of cool. Like she's truly experiencing hopefully bliss right now. Yeah. And we're just starting to watch that relationship form amazing amazing amazing so ashley has all the answers tasha has all the answers and they have all the opinions on the second episode of the bachelorette

but before we get there let's take a break talk about sleep number sleep number hey ashley i love sleep number tasha have you ever slept in a sleep number bed you know i haven't wow i i you know what there's like people who have slept in sleep under beds and people who haven't great And it's like two different teams. Oh, no. I'm on the team that has, and I love my sleep number. I love the way that it elevates. Like, I think you can like basically sleep sitting up, which is really good for drainage

of your face. Is that you're not puffy in the morning? Oh, so you could get away with the ice cubes that you stick on your eyes? Yeah, I don't even need to do ice cubes anymore. I actually don't do it anymore. Oh, that's a shocker. I remember when Ashley and I did Paradise, or Paradise, what do you call it, winter games together? It's the first time I'd seen her with her face mask on.

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You'll only find sleep number at any of the 575 sleep number store. stores. There's so many stores nationwide. You have one nearest to you. Go check it out. No excuses given. You cannot afford another restless night's sleep. We don't want that for you. But if you do have a restless night's sleep, make sure you tune in to the almost famous podcast on IHeartRadio. Find the one nearest to you at sleepman.com backslash bin today. You know one fun thing you could do? One of the cool things is you can go into those mattress shops and just lay on a bunch of different beds. Have you ever done that? Yeah. Yeah, I have. You can actually ask them and I think they don't hate it. If you're like, hey, can I

just take a nap here? No. Yeah. I've done this before. Oh, yeah. No, you have not. Think about how good it is for marketing when you have a random dude laying on your bed. That's actually really funny.

Sleeping. Especially the bachelor. The bachelor just came and took a nap between meetings. He couldn't go home. So he just took a nap. I'm telling you the bachelor has been really good for me. Now it's like not awkward and weird for me to walk in and be like, guys, hey, I'm just going to take a nap on your bed. Are you cool with it?

Right. So let's talk episode two. Tasia, let's stick around for that. Is you cool with it? That sounds great. All right. Let's do it. Episode two.

Week two. Week two. That makes sense. Which is also episode two. Yeah. We've been talking for a long time, guys. We're still here in Napa Valley hanging out. And here, let me break down a little bit to get us started here.

With three people, it's always a little difficult. We're now in the Bachelor Mansion. So this is always an exciting time, right? We get to see the guys, meet the guys. or meet the ladies but it's the bachelorette season so we're talking we're meeting the guys really for the first time starting now really feel different watching this episode that I did last week you know I'm so premieres I know they have to happen the way that they happen but they don't get me like jazzed up watch this episode and now I'm getting excited I'm starting to feel like I'm rooting

for some people I like watching some of the chemistry I believe that now she can maybe find a guy because I know last week wasn't super thrilled about the bunch, said there was only like three, right? And now I'm looking at this. I'm like, oh, he's cuter than I thought he was. He's cuter. Okay, everybody's looking better. Everybody's being really charming.

I said that about a couple of the guys. I was really taken it back by last week, just because I wasn't thrilled by anyone. But this week, I think there's a lot of good contenders. Yeah, they're coming out of the woodwork. So the first date card says, I'm looking for Mr. Wright. This date card comes following Luke P.

and we see him say that he's already could see himself marrying Hannah and having a family with her more about Luke P later we all have opinions about Luke P he's definitely a captivating figure this season first date card says

I'm looking for Mr. Wright the group date includes Grant Lucas Mike Jed Jonathan J.P.J. Dylan and Luke P it's accompanied by drag queens Alaska and Alyssa and America's next top model, Miss Jay.

I love Miss Jay. Love Miss Jay. Here's the thing. I think we can sum this one up by saying that, yeah, Luke P, he's a buff dude. Yeah. Right? Sure.

Short guy. We saw that. Short? Really short. Luke P is short? Yeah. But he's jacked. No way.

That's why he is so, like, why. Yeah, stocky. It's always my excuse. I'm a tall guy and I'm not jacked because I'm tall. You're so tall. The muscle just kind of leans out as opposed to just like, you know, it's hard to get them to compact together. You know what? I'm going to do a poll on Instagram.

Would you rather a muscular guy or a tall guy? And tall is going to win. Easton, who's like also like six three over there is totally nodding his head. Please do that poll. Yeah, I'm going to do it right now. Yeah. Thank you. We'll give an update at the end of this segment on what people respond with.

Tasha, I want to ask you, right? We see these guys walk out, kind of. of showing off their skills and their talents did you enjoy this date yeah very much so i think i got to see a different side of all the guys and i mean who doesn't want to see hot guys and speedos yeah um well i don't know i don't want to i mean but the hot ones but it is fun to kind of like judge a little bit with you're on the couch with wine and your girlfriends yeah okay fine Where do your eyes go, like, on a guy? When he walks down to Speedo, is it like...

No, you're like, look at his face, look at his face, look at his face, yeah. Tisha? His abs. His abs. Oh, okay. Yeah. Did you like, I mean, oh, like the V, like the little, like, sex bones? I love a good V.

Is that what do we call those? Sex bones. I call it a V. Yeah, I call it a V too, but like, technically. If you want to be like, sex bones? I don't know. I don't think they're bones, are they, they're like muscle. Because if you had bones right there, that'd be kind of odd, you know?

I'm going to start. Pelvic index. I'm going to go back to Denver and start really working on my V Honestly, that'll get you very far Thank you, Tisha, I need help What we've What I think a consensus is

Is from social media And our emails already And the three of us talking The guys are looking better This episode than last Like physically, right? You had both mentioned That there's a lot more guys here

That you're attracted to than you were last week. I don't know what happened to them. They all drank beauty juice or something, but I can see that. Also, but you know who got Chris here? Who?

Cam. Cam did. And then Tyler was... Tyler G got better looking. Yeah. And then Kevin got better looking, mostly because he was in this rivalry with Cam. Yeah.

It's all starting to play out. Stories are starting to unfold. Also, a story that's unfolding is more and more this Loop P character continues. to be a presence on the show where we see him on this day stand up

and say I'm generally starting to fall in love with you Ridiculous What's going on with that? Too soon, right? Week two? Yeah. Have we seen something like that

happened? Especially from somebody at such a leadership position. This is his first date with her and this is like their second day filming.

So he's literally saying that within 48 hours because we have that break day in between that he is following. you love in 48 hours and saying it out loud. Yeah, but that's not true. That means he watched last season.

You know what I mean? He did his research. Yeah. And he was very into. He's in love with the idea of her. Yes. He already had an idea of her in his mind. But don't you feel like everybody else, like all the other guys there?

I mean, he was crowned then Mr. Wright, which I think is just going to continue to kind of like fuel his ego if he has one. He's probably walking. I mean, he's now the, the first rose getter. and receiver i don't know it all sounds weird and then uh he's also crowned mr wright and everybody at the party kind of feels it seems like they think he it's way too soon for him right they're starting to judge him hands down i mean if everybody there is feeling like it's too soon maybe he just really has that connection with her or or is there ulterior motives here do we know

yet oh he's just buttering up simple at that yeah do you have more sympathy for her him I do? No. Okay. I just think I think it's a little too soon. Honestly, it kind of makes me uncomfortable. It's like hard to watch a little bit. I'm like putting myself in that position and there's no way I could have said that at the second row ceremony or that second week. Yeah. The guy said I love you to too many girls in his life. Clearly. I just I have a hard time. I think there's a level here too that we might not even be speaking about yet. Okay. On this show, emotions happen quickly, right? Everything sped up there's a lot of intention you're isolated you're pursuing one person there's wisdom and i think we should all watch us as viewers and what you say and what you don't say now you might

be feeling those emotions like holy cow i'm feeling a rush of love and of lust and of just just so much excitement but when you're on the show you have to know that like who you are in real life as well and go is this rational is this logical is this wise to now express Yes. And I think when we see people express emotions and feelings on the show too soon or too aggressively or too early or in situations that are not ideal, I mean, Cam, we've seen it already with Cam. We have to ask ourselves the questions, not if he's feeling it or not. Because we don't know that. We can't be the judge of that. But is it the wise thing to say and do at the time? And if it's genuine. And if it's genuine. Ashley, what do you think? I just don't think it's genuine. And I think that you shouldn't say it until it's genuine. I think it's fair Okay, right? Yeah, I agree

Okay, moving on to date two It's the one-on-one Surprise one-on-one, in my opinion For Tyler G to get the first one-on-one, right? You know what? Sometimes it's a one-off That you don't know their name yet And then sometimes it's like Blake who was probably a standout Who was your first date, Ben?

Kayla, Kayla Quinn Oh, okay, look at that. So that went far and so did Blake And who knows? Maybe Tyler is a, sleeper. Hannah B got the first one-on-one date. Oh, yeah, that's right.

Look at that. It was kind of the mark in which we knew Hannah B. and also thought Hannah B was going home after that day. Yes. Right? Yeah. But I think this date went very, very well. You guys like Tyler G.

Yeah. Very manly. He's like a sweetheart, too. Is that how you would explain him? Like manly, looking at him like he, I think you both, as we were watching an episode together, you said he kind of looks like a Superman. Yeah, he's like a Superman character. He kind of looks like a Ben.

zorn you know like a little boy like just like masculine yeah oh like he'll take care of you masculine yeah like he'll protect you like that hug must feel real good because he's like a man he feels he feels put together like he feels like he knows what he's saying and why he's saying it while he's saying it right like when i think about this dude i'm thinking about the fact that like he is wise he's he's he's calm and what he's saying he's a good listener he's available and ready to talk to her but then even like when she gave him the rose his little comment was does this mean i get to spend more time with you that's cute that's cute that's cute that's good stuff which is totally the opposite of luke who says stuff like you know i'm attracted and girls like to get with me yeah that's just a lot so i think

it's so cute tyler keeps saying that he's the luckiest man alive and that it's exactly what the bacheloret and especially hannah wants to hear because she's the kind of girl who doesn't want to play hard to get she wants to know the guy is happy with her And very into her. Yeah. Moving on now to date card number three. Man, we're three dates into the season already. Moving fast, moving quickly.

This date includes Devin, Mateo, Conner, Darren, Kevin, Dustin, Tyler C, Joey, Peter, Garrett. The clue is let's get our love on track. The date is roller skating. It's not just roller skating, but they're competing in a derby. Darren starts it out by predicting that a 25% chance someone, ends in the hospital I you know what I like about Hannah right now

I really do think that she's doing a terrific job but putting these men to ease because when she says hey I don't care if these guys are great I don't care if these guys are fantastic skaters I don't care what they do I just want them to have fun and be joy filled

that is an expectation that is not heavy and I think that is such a big role for the lead to do to the contestants to not make them feel like they have to be something other than themselves and other than joy filled to have the best experience and to show their best selves to Hannah. She's doing great. That is true. I think sometimes early on in these group dates that are competitive, people are like, well, in order to stand out and to get extra time, I need to win. And she's

basically like, that's not the case. Just have a good time. I agree. The, you know, they were pretty terrible. Like honestly, though. I mean, I'm glad she set that expectation because I hope they had fun. They were awful. Really, really bad. I haven't roller skating in years. We used to do these all night skates back in middle school. You ever do those? Yeah. Did you ever do the like all nighters where you go into like a roller skating rink? They would they would do it. All night. Yeah, middle school was like a way for your parents to get rid of you. I was never, I was never allowed. But like my friends would go. I was always, it was like the thing to do in like six, seven eighth grade that like I couldn't go to. I was

not allowed to, but I would go for like the first four hours and then have to leave. but yeah they do all night skates and you'd hear some weird stuff go down at all night skates oh yeah no never did that yeah no that doesn't sound like my cup of tea but i like to go to bed earlier and i don't think my parents would have let me say to that either hey well it was a bunch of dudes skating around a rink falling into each other fighting arguing grappling meanwhile back at the house abc man i i hope to never hear anybody ever talked about themselves like that again there's something about this tasha i don't know how big a fan you are the podcast our podcast you probably listen to it every week but um hands down yeah one thing that

ashie and i've really started to jump on is people self-describing themselves every other podcast is probably rolling their eyes right now um because they're like i hear ben and ash talk about this every week especially ben i i dislike when people self-describe themselves i think we should allow others to describe us and live a life worthy of being described and then the second is i don't like people talking about themselves in the third person always be cam is that to a t he's literally laid out why did he say abc cam always be oh always be cam and what does that mean exactly i wonder how long it took him to come up with that one honestly like it was like his grandma it sounds like something like a grandma would be like oh we abc always became

and he's like that's my motto till i'm 40 like i'm gonna always be cam which means nothing really like he's saying nothing like what does that mean to always be cam like as a viewer or as a friend of his or as a family member when he says always be cam what should we assume cam is cam is a creeper i was just going to say creeps is that rude we don't know him though yet so like we don't know him yet so like he's actually saying nothing right if you think about it like we don't know cam he's not saying always be loyal always be kind always be considerate he's saying always be a name name it's it's it's weird i mean essentially it's like saying always be true to yourself it a hundred percent is so so always became sitting back of the house meanwhile saying he's lonely he hasn't had time

with hannah he hasn't been invited in his dates what he should know is there's a reason yeah slow your role so he decides to be bold it's a foreshadowing we see it it's always dangerous when he decide when anybody in the show says i'm going to be bold what he ends up doing As he shows up to the cocktail party in the group date, we can skip the end of the race. Nothing major happens except Fred Willard comes back into the picture, which we always love. I just love when Fred shows up. Just a fantastic fellow. I mean, I think it's like a season, right?

He's a season regular now. Yeah, he's on my season two. Fred Willard is a bundle of joy. I like Fred. Fred Willard continues to show up in Bachelor Nation. Why and how we don't know, but we don't, we hope he never leaves. So let's skip to the cocktail party. cocktail players going fine everybody seems pretty happy uh right nothing that's weird's going on they're

a little beat up a little tired a little exhausted and cam shows up crushes the get the cocktail party to steal hana away this is never happened i'm just going to say has this early on here's here's a tactic cam we all know has something in him that is ticking right he's like a ticking time bomb yes we could just see it in his eyes so it was like we're going to test cam this week and see you how he responds to not having a date he apparently got so fired up that he had to go crash one i think he got way too excited personally about getting that very first rose yes and he shouldn't have taken it as serious as he did oh my god his head is very big right now yeah this is like that story of hubris that we learned about in like ninth grade english he just just flew too close to the sun he's like

he's he's he's gonna be on this downfall now because his ego is so big so big yeah I think there is, I'm trying to figure out how we should play this here. What I want to do now, because I don't think this story makes sense unless we tie in what Cam does at the cocktail party before the rose ceremony. Cam then continues these escapades onto the cocktail party at the rose ceremony. When he does something that might be one of the most egregious moves that I've ever seen anybody made, on week two he Kevin and Hannah are having a moment in talking we don't know how good it's really going we don't see a lot of it but we see it happening and Cam decides to walk up and says hey I actually have something for all three of us so weird I was weirded out by that

I wasn't at first at first my first reaction was sounds interesting maybe creative maybe cool maybe something different maybe they're going to play a game and since can Cam already can tell that he's causing some issues in the house. Made this his way of just saying, hey, let's laugh about this. I'm sorry. I want to apologize and let you know, Kevin to continue to have your time and I'm willing to have it. Like something that is just good and noble altogether. Instead, he literally invites Kevin to sit next to him and Hannah as he gives her chicken nuggets.

Like seriously? No, I have to say the chicken nuggets in a ring box is a nice move. I would have been, you know, if it wasn't Cam, it would have been like a great. Great, I've been like, dude, I'm in love with you. You're fantastic. But being from Cam and the way he did it, it was a gross move. It's all about your delivery, right? However, the line was very clever when he asked,

will he accept this, like, honey mustard or something? There was nothing clever. There's nothing clever about using a line that's so easy to use. I will always accept it. Guys, my cameos every time ask me to tell somebody to accept a rose. It's not that hard. Can you accept this honey mustard? It's not cute.

It's not mad because you didn't say it I wish that was the case Poor Cam has some work to do Here's the thing I thought Kevin still handled it well He was angry he should be He was embarrassed he should be His pride was shot

I get why He sat next to two people on a date One guy with his girlfriend Nothing about that I mean it's just so weird of him To be like I'm gonna include this guy in the date Just because I want to be a dick like that But then he didn't include him in any way

Totally boxed out of the entire conversation ignored him. It was nothing about that was inclusive or accepting. Truthfully, Cam is a target right now in the house. We can see it playing out. It's not going to end anytime soon. I'm afraid. The final big moment was when Luke P takes off his shirt, gives Hannah massage.

I just think it's really interesting how well Jed handled it. Jed was a cutie. This is when this was the official moment that I picked a favorite this season. My favorite for Hannah is Jed. I called him out last week as one of my top four. but now he's who I want her to end up with. Honestly, he's such a gentleman. That was so cute.

And he was genuinely sad when he saw that. And he could have been really awkward when she came to talk to him, but instead he was just like, I get it. What did he say? He said something really cute. He said like, hey, you know what else is awkward? That there's 25 dudes here seem to be into you. Really into it.

Like, so cute. Totally good. Well played jazz. Okay. I'm going to sum up the episode just for our listeners in one second and for all of us. What we're finding out is these guys are more attracted than we could ever have imagined. And we have some standouts coming through that all of us are fans of some of, I guess, the surprises that we never thought would be popular in the show are now popular.

We also think that Hannah B is doing a terrific job as The Bachelorette. She's being weird. She's being corky. She's being confident. She's saying things that she shouldn't and saying things that she should. And all together is amazingly entertaining and incredibly authentic. What we want to find out is where are these. drama-filled story is going to play out. We will see that in the upcoming week of The Bachelorette.

We love this season. It's going to continue to stay around. We are going to continue to stay around. Make sure you tune in tomorrow to our in-depth episode. It's with Caitlin Bristow. It's just me and Caitlin. We sat down for two hours with a bottle of wine and had some girl talk. It's a good one. This season of The Bachelorette is worth watching, but Caitlin Bristow is worth listening to. I think here's my prediction next week's episode is going to continue to be that slow fade and it's a drama

and then week four is going to explode with drama on this show we're going to see some some personality shine which we always do week four is always the week that true personality shine right now week two

it just felt like a good week two episode because week four happens in Newport Rhode Island which is where Jared and I are getting married there you go girl hey Ashley you know what I just realized what's week two Tasha, listen to this. This is crazy.

What? We survived another off season. Yeah, I know. You didn't realize that last week? It was the shortest off season of all time. It was only seven or eight weeks. So short. Hey, like we were talking about, we're here in Napa Valley. It's my first time in Napa Valley.

I don't think I mentioned that before. My very first time, Amy continues to bring me places for my first time. I was in Tahoe for the first time with Amy. Me too. I'm in Napa for the first time with Amy. I feel like you're trying to say something, Amy. I just don't think you spend enough time in California. I know.

No, but it's beautiful. It's amazing. And we're staying on the same golf course that the Safeway Open is on. And I love golf. So I'm looking right now out at this golf course, and it's absolutely beautiful. We've brought in probably the biggest star of the weekend. No, no, no, no. Time out.

She's shaking her head, no, to the podcast. Bobby Jacobs is on the podcast. She is the founder. And what else would you call your title of this event? Um, I am the, I'm a mom. No, that is number one most important thing. Um, I'm a wife. Um, I have four dogs.

And I'm the co-founder of Live in the Vineyard and the founder of Live in the Vineyard goes country. Bobby lives in Denver. I live in Parker. I live in the highlands, North Denver. That's amazing. I just was there, um, going in that area. For dinner at Ashkara. The restaurant that I started.

Avant. No, was it Avante? My restaurant is right next door. I just started a restaurant in North Denver. You did? Dinner's on me. for bringing us out here because this event is so great that anybody that no matter where you're at in the country should come to it we've brought in we still have tasha with us um she's going to chime

in she's a big country fan we've brought in amy our producer who you know very well because bobby and amy have known each other for the last we were trying to remember 15 years a long time we've always worked together 15 years because bobby's always worked in music and i've always worked in music with ryan ccrest so we've crossed paths but then years ago she started this event and this is my first time here, but I have heard about it forever. People rave about this. Yeah, I mean, how can you not? We're in Napa Valley at a country music festival. How did you come up with the idea? Well, Live in the Vineyard goes country. I love, love country music. And my husband always wanted to have Live in the Vineyard be like a twist. So Live in the Vineyard is what you created

before this. Yeah, live in the vineyard. That's like something that goes beyond just this festival. Yes, yes. Live in the Vineyard was created. And I'm the co-creator of the original. co-founder of Live in the Vineyard, which was 11 years ago. And so it was created by my friend, Claire Parr, and myself. And then I have now taken over the business as of a few years ago. And so now it's mine. And so it is just a really, it's a labor of love. It was created to help artists market and promote their music.

Because in today, well, 11 years ago, it's just a different model. Now it's different. then it was just one more vehicle to help artists break their music. And so that's why it was created. Their only moneymaker. Concerts are merchandise concerts, you know, and then... Exactly, exactly. And so it's a vehicle where the artists are curated based on their current music

and the music that they release. And so therefore, it's like one big... It's like a marketing opportunity that can add into like being another cog in the wheel to releasing music. And the thing I love about it, and the reason I wanted Bobby to come on, today is because the Bachelor does the same thing specifically for a lot of country artists. So in a minute, we're going to talk to Scotty McCreary and Morgan Evans. And Morgan was on Becca's season of The Bachelor performing at a date with Leo and Becca. I remember that.

Yes, I do. I think because, you know, the audience is very similar. A lot of the Bachelor audience loves country music. So it's that they use that as the same thing to be able to get their music out there. And this is a little inside baseball. But what's kind of interesting is when an artist is on the Bachelor, you see their song. I was going to say that was my question. Does it work? Oh, it translates completely. It's unbelievable. The translation. My one question that I had, how many people are we expecting at this? It's only, it's only 830 people total for the, for the theater event. So for tonight at the uptown theater, it is going to be 832 people total. It is. It's a private, it's a private, experience and it's been it's basically once in a lifetime and it is I handpicked the artist I work with

all the labels and the managers and I work with the you know as far as the what's being released and really what works well together for a lineup and so if there's an artist that might not fit in one particular venue we'll put them in another one so it's highlighted and it's acoustic there's no there's no plugged in you know perform it's a it's an acoustic show yesterday people were just out in the vineyard in Napa listening to country music. We were at Ragushi, yes. So yesterday we started off, we kicked off the week

with Regushi Vineyards and Regushi Winery. And it was Walker Hayes and Landcoe and Brad Paisley headlined. And what's really, really cool about this event, that was only 500 people now. Wait, okay, so you can't purchase tickets. So people listening for Bobby's next event, you enter to win and then you get to come.

So wait, we explain that. because you have another one coming up so people listening can have this experience like we're having if they get lucky and they win. You can't purchase tickets. And so back to the whole marketing and the promotion of artist's music. So what happens is there's a net.

So it's like a four part. Look at those like a four part thing where the first part is you basically throw it out there to there's 350 to 400 radio stations in the country promoting this. Including eye heart radio. Including I heart radio. And so that's part one. So you enter to win.

and there's a huge broadcast across the whole United States where we're in over almost 400 markets and then the second part is you win and you come and then you are in it and then you have the content from it and then you have the after the pieces afterwards that really like kind of connect it all and people can see a lot of the footage on CMT right

CMT is our title sponsor are there any other kind of concerts out here in Napa that take pace like this or no I the first that was ever pop music didn't come to Napa until we brought it here 11 years ago. It was very jazz and very classical music. You name some of the artists that have done live

in the vineyard? Rob Thomas, Alanis Morissette, Lenny Kravitz. Represent Rob Thomas. I have with my fiance. He's obsessed with Rob. And now, like, I'm finding myself listening to Rob on my own, on planes. Really? Yeah. So it's funny.

I worked back when Matchbox 20 was started, when it went from Tabith Secret, they were based in Florida. and they went to Matchbox, so we signed the law of our records. I broke, I drove them around in a minivan.

That's when we met. That's when we met. Oh my gosh, I just stabbed. I got outside and I stab up. That's when we met in San Francisco with Ryan Seacrest. Oh my gosh.

And that was almost 20 years ago. So we went to the 20 years. And so I drove them in a minivan and they all had their 21st birthdays on the road and driving them in the minivan. And I would take them into radio stations and I would beg them, please, please,

can you have us come in to the radio station? And they're like, are you and who is this band? I go, they're going to be the biggest band ever. Ryan C. Crest and I, and then church, and they are one of the most pop-played bands and 3 a.m. We're with Matchbox 20 and probably Bobby on a sidewalk in San Francisco, a sidewalk. Sidewalk symphony.

They were performing. Yeah, they were performing on the sidewalk. We had like, we were just doing local TV interviewing them and having a performance literally in the middle of San Francisco on the sidewalk. This is iconic. Like, let's pause for a second. Ryan Seacrest and Matchbox 20 on the sidewalk in San Francisco. 1997.

48. Four. Okay. Something like that. A long time ago. But that's all right. Yes. Yes.

I am 49 years old. Thank you very much. I'm just, I'm just keep saying it because I'm all. I just have to be prepared for the next three months. So what country music? Yeah. What country music are you loving right now?

Oh, my goodness. I. I love Ingrid Andrus. She has the song, Ladylike, and she's fantastic, and Kaylee Hammack performed last night. She is on Universal. She's unbelievable. Ingrid's on Warner Brothers. Everybody, like, there's no one label.

It's everyone. It's, you know, like kind of a universal experience of music with all the different labels. Hardy, I heard for the first time today. He wrote the number one song that Blake Shelton has right now, God's Country. He just performed at an in-the-round. Morgan Evans is so awesome. So Morgan was the one that was on The Bachelor. Oh, my gosh, she's amazing.

And Cody Johnson is my husband's favorite, and I can't wait to see him tonight. I mean, really, like, Landcoe is lovely. And Brad Paisley was here, and Little Big Town. So it's so talented. Yes. So now everyone knows what we're doing in Napa. Yeah, two questions for you.

And they're kind of back-to-back. One is why Napa, and the second then is why would an artist, like Brad Paisley, who is a household name, want to do this event? I know it's for publicity and I know it's really good for the artist, but why is it good for the artist? If only 500 people get to come and it's on CMT, explain really how it promotes them. So as far as artists are concerned, that's a very good question. As far as artists are concerned, like Brad Paisley, like for example, last year, Carrie Underwood started the event. Like, my first event in Carri And Underwood was my headlining artist.

And it works. Everything we do is not exactly a cookie cutter. And it's like not even close to a cookie cutter experience, meaning the festivals during the week. It's on a Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. You know, and so because artists touring country on the weekends. And so they'll never get, you know, touring is big for them. And so with Brad, it worked with his schedule and the kids and his wife. And he has new music coming out.

And the label really wanted him to do something more intimate. in an acoustic setting in a winery with a winery backdrop and so it just really worked same way I got all y'all here Napa wine and then Napa Valley

it's Napa Valley you always have to think about the way it sounds on the radio as a promotion come to Napa Valley an intimate experience of music food and wine in the heart of the legendary wine country

so why do you guys when it's advertised when it's promoted why do you guys keep it intimate and exclusive what's the benefit for you The benefit is everything in today's society can be bought, and you can't, I just wanted to create something that is so special that no matter, you can be standing next to the CEO of a massive billion-dollar company, or you can be the winner from El Paso. And I program to everyone equally, so everyone can have the same experience, and that takeaway is just really exciting. And you're never going to see an artist perform in this setting again, because nothing repeats.

It's always different. What's the best way for people listening to learn more? How do they go to your website? They can, as far as socials, you know, live in the vineyard on socials. And then also live in the vineyard.com, live in the vineyard goes country.com. And then I also, there's also a culinary festival in our portfolio that's Yontville live, which you can buy a ticket for. And it's a very, it's a culinary.

Yachtville? Like is it on a yacht? Yon. Yon. Oh. But if you, maybe there's a very exclusive farmy. No, Yontville is in the heart of Napa Valley. And so that is, it's a culinary mecca of Napa Valley where French laundry, there's all these really famous restaurants.

She's not from around here, Bobby. It's all good. And so Yontville Live is basically a publicly ticketed model. It's a very high-end ticket. But it's all about master classes and an immersion within the, Amanda Stanton's here. You and your sister need to come to that. I just learned Amanda Stanton's sister is a chef.

I learned that like eight minutes ago. So my sister runs a food Instagram account. So she posts all her recipes on there. She's amazing. Yeah. I'm not a good cook, but she is. I'm like the taste tester.

That's a good job to have, though. Side note. Amanda's hair. It looks like Princess Jasmine right now, and I'm super jealous and I just want to stare. Well, we will let Bobby get back to plant for concerts, and we'll talk to Scotty McCreary and Morgan Evans in just a minute.

I just can't believe that... Yes, thank you so much. Thank you for being here. I think you might be coming back in November. Constantly. Like every time now that you have one. So November is... So Live in the Vineyard in November is not just country.

It's multi-format. So it's country. It's Hot A C singer-songwriter. That means like John Mayer. Oh, I know. I love a dog contemporary. And then also pop. My jams.

Pop, pop. music so it's a little bit of everything then cool so all right thank you so much bobby i can't wait to uh interview an american idol right now one of the checklists one of the things on my bucket list is about to be checked off so it's pretty exciting let's go thank you my boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now i'm seriously suspicious oh wait a minute sam maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit well dakota it's back to school week on the okay story time podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't

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on the podcast. Thanks, man. It's good to talk to you. Now, tell everybody what season you're on and what date you performed on. It was last year, and I was going to say if you knew. It was the fellow with the long curly hair. Oh, Leo, that's right. It was Becca and Leo. And it was the end of a date, and the afterdates prize was come to the theater

and I was playing there. And I really enjoyed the experience of doing it. Because you always wonder when you watch the show like, how real is that moment, how many times they shoot that? And we shot it once

and all the reactions were real. And, I mean, dancing on a podium and making out in the middle of the crowd, maybe, it was not the most natural thing. But it was amazing to play. They might not kiss somebody and then watch that all happen. It was cool. I think a lot of people watch those dates and they're like,

this must be so awkward to be The Bachelorette and her date with everybody watching this. But did you feel it was actually more normal than you would think? No, definitely wasn't normal at all. I actually, I kind of felt for them a little bit because, I mean, they were having a moment or whatever. They were making out on this podium. But then people were up on the podium, like pushing against them. Taking pictures.

Yeah. Whilst they were making it out, it was a thing to behold. The interesting part is so when you're an artist and you're playing on The Bachelor, you're there a few hours beforehand with like a full crowd in front of you. Because when I was The Bachelor, I remember, I had a, I don't know if you know of Amos Lee. Oh, yeah, of course. But he was my favorite growing up. And so he came in and played on my season of the show, which Amos is definitely like

the opposite type of person that you would see on The Bachelor show, right? Like you would never think Amos would do this. and he was telling me about like what had happened before I had gotten there and he was there for hours with a full crowd and he's like he didn't know if to entertain them to like sing so he ends up kind of put on like this private concert yeah for a hundred people they're hanging out waiting for us to show up from our date to kiss in front of them I mean I will say I was this similar experience to that it was a bigger place so it was like proper theater there was a thousand people there and holy cow and I felt exactly the same way Amos did I was like they're here we're set up we might as well go play we might as well go play so we might as well go play so we might as well go play so we're And so, yeah, we played a show. Oh, that's awesome. All right, so here on the Almost Famous podcast, you know, we talk predominantly about The Bachelor, talk about a lot of love.

You're married to Kelsey Ballerini. You have been since December, 2017. Yeah, you got good on the facts there. Can you tell us how you proposed? Was it a Bachelor-like? Probably not. But I will say it was a conscious decision. I feel like...

Well, I hope it was a conscious decision. No, to not be like that. Oh, to not be like that. We live so much of our lives publicly, you know, when we talk about it, interviews all the time. And on the internet, people, you know, you post photos or whatever. And so it was a cool moment to just keep ours. And it was Christmas morning.

And she was making pancakes. And it was just us in the house. And it seemed like the perfect time. So you hadn't planned the time that you were going to do it. You just were going to wait. Oh, no, that was the perfect time. Okay. But were you going to wait so you felt it was the perfect time?

Or did you plan Christmas morning? Christmas morning was the plan for sure. Yeah. Yeah. I knew that we would actually be at home together that day, which is a rare occurrence. Aw. Yeah, it was great. I've always been interested.

How do you manage? Because both of your careers have skyrocketed. You're both crushing it. And as that happens in parallel, obviously, there's a ton of time apart. And, like, your lives are out there all the time. Everybody's talking about you. We can Google you and find out when you got married and probably how you proposed before this podcast if we wanted to.

How do you keep it, like, real and just, like, when you go back to be together, like, just a real like natural relationship now i i feel like there's a couple of things you need to do one of them is to make sure you see each other that's the probably the hardest part which we just you have to be really proactive about it sit down and look ahead and the calendar and and just block out chunks of time and thankfully all the people we work with know that that's a real priority for us so um like just last week we had our first block for the year and we just disappeared for three days and it was awesome and i feel like anytime we both get together it becomes real again. You know, if you're not talking about each other, you just actually get to talk to

each other. Somehow, I feel like the fact we both do this gives each other a really good understanding of what we're both going through. So there's no, we don't have to explain that to each other either. So there's kind of a real connection there as well. Are you still in the honeymoon phase since you do only see each other sporadically? Yeah, I guess so. Mathematically so. Yeah, mathematically, the amount of days you've had together. Well, yeah, I mean, my girlfriend's parents, they spend every week apart. He travels and then she comes back on the weekends and they've actually told me over the 30 years of marriage it's actually been a blessing to them because there's this excitement back right where my parents they live in the small town

indiana they're together all the time every day my dad goes to my mom's work and sits on the couch and watch sports is why she finishes up like they're together all the time and i don't feel like there's as much of like a a blissful excitement maybe when they see each other for the first time in three hours her parents he's commuted for 30 years close to it yeah holy moly i don't know if that's a bad thing i think that's just a different dynamic man you might be right i mean at the same time we do get really jealous of some of our other um country music friends that like they'll go and and their wife or their husband will just go on the road with them every weekend which they get to do it all together which would be really cool to do as well would you tour together well i mean eventually i guess maybe i will

say this summer she has a lot of time off to uh to make a new record which which means that on the weekends i might be able to steal her out and um yeah that away bring her on the road with me what's your ultimate date together like what's your favorite thing to do her ultimate date yours both of them um it would be something by the ocean for sure i grew up near the ocean newcastle australia so living in nashville that's one of the things i missed the most and uh we were just down in mexico a couple of weeks ago actually and uh that was kind of the perfect experience of good food some wine and the ocean that is really the best date i just have my best pizza pizza in nashville my girlfriend lives in nashville you had your best pizza pizza ever or just in nashville city house

Have you ever been to City House in Nashville? I loved it. It's good pizza, man. It's good pizza, yeah. Have you ever been to Jack Browns in Nashville? Jack Brown's burger joint? I haven't. You have to go.

I'm going tomorrow to Nashville. I cried when she found out. And I almost cried that I, when I found out that, like, I could have Jack Browns this weekend. I've never even heard of Jack Brown. I know, it's a little far out. It's like not on the Broadway area. Okay. Yeah.

Just Google it. Where are you from? Are you from Denver as well? No, I'm, well, I live in L.A. I'm from Northern Virginia. And you'll give me food to smell. Well, it's because this burger chain originated in my college town, and then they expanded throughout, like, that central, that, like, mid-Atlantic area.

All right. Yeah. Let's check it out. Anyway, my last question for you. Do you have any more questions? I do. I have one last one while I'll finish up with it. Okay.

You are playing the grand old opera on the 17th. That is gigantic. You know, it's that place. It's the home of country music, and it's such, I mean, it's one of those things that makes country music different to every other genre. we have this kind of family and this kind of home base and yeah it's going to be great so my last question and i've always wanted to ask an artist this and i never have and every time i get really angry with myself when i forget okay um last night we were able to participate in an incredible show here

where it was just acoustic and there was like 800 people and it was super intimate right and every single artist that got up on stage was impressive in my mind because it felt like their first time ever playing the song it felt like they they were excited to play it and and i think anybody's a fan loves to hear the music and I have a point here I had the questions at the end but I got to lead up to it making great points but we would be naive to think that every time you're playing these songs all the time you're in front of people every night right and you're engaging a crowd how do you keep yourself staying authentic getting excited and prepping for every show to make sure that the

audience has the best time and also that you're enjoying yourself so you don't feel like a robot right right I I don't know that I mean you got on understand too like to get to somewhere to play so much has to happen you have to get on a plane or a bus and travel all night and and that moment you're on stage that's the only reason you do it so i don't know that consciously i have to get myself in that headspace i feel like that is the moment that i'm looking forward to all day so that's a genuine excitement that you see from everyone on stage like that's the reason they're here to do that so that's probably the answer to your question there's a lot of stuff we don't necessarily enjoy doing to get to that moment so yeah it's easy to appreciate that

Awesome, man. Cool. Well, hey, Morgan Evans continues to be a stud. Thanks for coming on, ma'am. Thanks, guys. Thank you so much. It's really nice to meet you. I can listen to your voice all day long. You're speaking voice or singing voice. You can't go to Spotify. Perfect. We're still here at live in the vineyard goes country, which has been a magical experience. I really like, yeah, this is just something special. The wine is flowing. the sun is shining people are singing and we're all here enjoying this incredible event coming up next to

the podcast is somebody who has really been a household name for almost a decade which how are you a household name for almost a decade when you are only 25 years old I think we need to ask him it would be amazing to ask goddie McCreary how he's been a household name for so long and he's so young Good thing he's here with us. Scotty, welcome to the podcast. So we've met last year at Augusta, Georgia, at the Masters. My dad is my dad's bucket list. Isn't that place like next level, amazing?

It's incredible. You're a good golfer, right? I pretend to be. I like it. I was at Augusta a couple days ago, actually. I got the chance to play. And it was, it was sick. What do you shoot at Augusta?

So this was my first time break in 90, but I shot 81. What? 81 with an 8 on the second hole. which is really not good. You and I could talk with Gusta all day, but... Ours. Something that was really cool about that. And our listeners always love to hear this kind of stuff is I met your buddies actually

first backstage. My dad never standing there and you're on stage and your buddies were talking. And you had brought them with you to this amazing experience just to enjoy it with friends, right? To me, that's what life's about. I mean, I don't want to go through this stuff just doing things by myself, whether it's my wife, my buddies and I just want to hang out and make memories and moments with people you know yeah that's what it's all about you could tell they're just I mean ash I'm telling you his buddies we're such big fans of him as like friends not just like but like just loving it like they're like so

celebratory like what's really cool is when you see a guy you know make it who's has friends from the past and now the friends aren't jealous but they're supportive and like just uplifting and just like that's my dude yeah it's like an entourage life you get to just live this awesome life with your friends you may not be the one in the spotlight but you're still getting perks we all have a pretty good time there's there's eight of us and we we travel in a pack yeah hey uh to get us started here we got to talk music we got to talk love sure um that's what this podcast is about but first we were sitting here and talk we had to google it you're 25 years old is this mind-boggling to me i was like he was at least 18 when you won idol yours you were the last

season of idol i ever watched really you no offense to the idols now but like you were the last of the hayday Well, it was a fun season. I felt like everybody in season 10, like Jacob was great at gospel and James was killing it and rock and roll and everybody had their thing. And it was very unique season, I thought. It was really awesome. We have this deal, right? We come from this crazy reality show called The Bachelor.

We watch. Yeah. You do? Oh, my goodness. Well, this is too cool because before there was The Bachelor of my life, there was American Idol. Those have been like the two chapters of my TV live. There we go. So if you don't know, Ash, she's a.

She's a big fan girl of a lot of things, which makes her wonderful. So we come from the show, and we always talk about, like, we have a couple other bachelor contestants, Amanda Stan and Tasha behind you. And we always talk to them about this idea that you go from just being a normal person to be on a show, and then you put in the spotlight. Now, you have a talent, so I'm not trying to compare the two of our worlds. But at 16 years old, you win Idol, and it launches you into this whole new, like, planet. Out of nowhere.

Yeah. How do you handle, like, can you help us a little bit relate with where your mind went to? What that was like for you? And kind of looking back now, does it feel like a different world? Do you feel like you're in a different world? It's definitely, I would say when you're in the spot like that, like that, it's not reality. I mean, there's so much more to life than cameras and lights and all the craziness. But it took a lot of getting used to.

The first time somebody called my name and it wasn't like a friend or a family member. I was like, who are you and how do you know my name? Yeah. But, you know, it's one of those things that I'm a very laid-back. guy just go with the flow and just take things day by day and but it was very odd at the start especially that you know everybody loves going through their awkward teenage years on national television right you still looked very cute doing it you didn't look awkward i can't watch that stuff i can't go back and look at it i'm like oh my god it's just awful all right so the bachelor we get

the number one question i think we get as bachelor contestants is how real is the show is it scripted like is it all fake and you guys are actors when i look at an american idol i think oh it's just legitimate right just a singing contest but then when i hear from american idol contestants they make it seem like it's much more manipulated and much more reality show than people think can you give us a little bit of insight on all this yeah they definitely want to make it very reality i mean when it comes down in the nitty gritty like you go on stage you sing your song and and that's that but the behind the scenes of like producers like hey why don't y'all go do this or well i mean they were cameras falling they would go to the bathroom with it if they could but we ever barely saw that footage oh i know like

I felt like they tried to do, because they put us in a mansion at first, which sounded amazing, until we got in there. It's just like 20 people in like two rooms. You know how that is. Well, that's the bachelor mansion. Yeah. It's crazy. Like, they just want the drama.

They just want people to live with each other like that. I always thought America Vindle should have a show, like a spinoff show, where an hour of the week was dedicated to just watching the contestants, like the top 10 or 12, interact in the mansion together. But then I thought that perhaps it would sway the vote because that people would would be voting based on personality and not on talent. Oh, yeah, it would. There are definitely a camera on moments and camera off moments, for sure.

So I got to tell you a little story here. Easton over here, who is one of our producers on the show. He also is a producer with Ryan Seacrest in the Ryan Sechrest show. Oh, there we go. So he gets massive people in and out of his studio all the time, right? I mean, every day people are coming in now. Massive stuff. And we were driving on the car here, and we got the confirmation that you're going to come on the podcast.

And Easton freaks out. I mean, get so pumped, so we start playing your music in the car, all five of us, driving from Oakland to Napa, just absolutely doing. And so my point to this is, you know, we can laugh and talk about our past on both reality shows. But what you have done, you've made this a career and been successful. And so, you know, yes, American Idol is a part of your story, but it was not the end. It was not the last chapter. You've done far greater things.

Well, thanks, how have you done? I mean, obviously, because you're talented, but also how have you navigated to, make that happen and kind of separate yourself into a whole different paradigm. Because you have. There are so many people that just know Scotty and they have no idea that you came from Idol. And that, I think, is the ultimate compliment for American Idol contestants. I think it's you, Kelly Clarkson, Daughtry, Carrie Underwood, those are like the four that I think of when I think like have separated in a graceful way. I might even put them in another class. They're super stars. Let's not today because I don't know if that's

true, but you can. I appreciate it. Yeah, I think the the goal in music is just to get songs out there to connect with people so it took me a while my first few years i didn't write any songs and then my next album i wrote a couple but this last record i mean we wrote every song in the record and just from the heart and i feel like folks relate to that they see that and they see themselves in the song like man that song reminded me at the time of my boys that song reminded me of me and my wife's story so um i think it's just about being relatable getting music out there and just being real at the end of the day yeah that's amazing yeah you know you have a speaking of songs you have a new song out a new single in between yeah uh so as you think about the idea of being relatable

sure what made this song relatable in your eyes to the general public yeah i think the whole song i mean in my opinion we wrote the song just kind of talking about my life and where i'm at and a lot of times on tv or wherever you only see the extreme crazy people on one side of the other where it's like most of us i'd say are just kind of doing her own thing just chilling just right down the middle and one of my favorite lines in the song is the hook it goes i ain't all holy water and I ain't all Jim Beam. I'm somewhere in between. Yeah.

And I feel like that's most of us, you know. I can calm down and have my Jesus time, but I can also go out and have a good time as well. So, yeah. How old are you when you met your wife? Five. Yeah, okay, that's what I thought. I was like, no way.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so this is why I asked, because I remember you being on Idol and you said that you had a girlfriend. And I thought, you know, as being like a fan girl, I was like, oh, no, he should have never said he had a girlfriend because now all these fan girls, are going to be like, oh, no, I don't have a chance anymore.

But then you end up in marrying her. Yeah. How has she dealt with you going from somebody that she knew at five years old to Scotty, the winner of America Idol, to Scotty the country music sensation? Yeah, you know, I mean, she's my best friend, number one. That's first and foremost. We just, we know all about each other. We're just, we're there for each other.

So there's that. She's also, I would say, my biggest fan. I mean, she's always rooting for me and helping me out. But at the same time, it's as cool as it is, it's also like, well, that's just Scotty. Like, that's just the kid I knew back in the day, and it's the same guy. I am. She's, uh, five. Yeah, she's incredible for sure.

I got lucky with her. How'd you meet at five? Like, so is she the next door neighbor? Uh, we met our first day in kindergarten class. Oh, my goodness. You're going to make Ashley cries. Talk about a love story. This is a full circle.

We've brought the Bachelor and love into this with country music. I love it. You're a good man. Hey, appreciate y'all having me own. Thanks for coming on the podcast. When I told my wife we were talking, she was like, oh, my God, do you really? We really are.

We're big fans of the show. We watch every Monday. And I'm homeless. And thanks for representing Jesus well, man. Keep doing it. Get out there and make sure everybody out there listening checks out in between. Wherever you can listen to music? Hopefully, yeah.

It's definitely out there. Hey, thanks, Scottie. Appreciate it. You're born to be a country star, Scotty McCurry. Could you come with a more country name? I think it could. I don't know, McCritte. That's tough for me to say.

All right. Well, that was quite a podcast. I don't know if we've ever had a podcast with so many guests of famous one. And then like to have such a variety of guests. Can you imagine we had Tasha here. We're standing here right now or sitting here right now looking at like Amanda Stant who's famous. And then we have Morgan Evans and Scottie McCurry on. Ashley, we're in Napa Valley.

What has our life became? I don't know. but I just can't believe I just interviewed an American Idol because that would have been my goal 10 years ago and accomplished. We just keep crossing off goals on this podcast. Thanks for doing this podcast with me, Ashley. Thanks for doing the podcast with me, Ben, and doing all the great intros and outros because you're such a king of that.

This is like... I'm really thankful for your skill at intro and outros because I really get awkward with them. I love a good interview, but like something about saying, and here doing the nice flattery thing and then going into the guests. I can't do that and you're so good at it. I think we're a good team. Oh, thank you. That might be why this continues the world.

I don't know. Hey, and everybody out there, thank you for listening. I hope you've enjoyed this podcast as much as we've enjoyed making it. We love you. We thank you. And we want to come back for more. So please keep listening next week to the Almost Famous podcast as we break down episode three of Hannah B season. Oh, and you guys, let us know if you want this podcast tour to be a thing. Because we already have three dates that we really want to hit up.

Oh, we're Sunday. You better watch out. And Fairfax County, Virginia. and Savannah, Georgia. With that, I've been Ben. And I've been Ashley. We'll see you in your city very soon. Peace.

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