The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Live, Laugh, and Lies with Susie Evans

Episode Date: August 30, 2024

Ben sits down with Susie Evans to get a life update. Is she single? What did she get lied to about? Find about everything here.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Get your tickets today.AXS.com. This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast with IHartRadio. Special episode of the Almost Famous Podcast. Today we have Susie Evans here. Susie Evans has been a part of the Almost Famous Family in multiple ways, not only as a guest, but also as a host of a spinoff show that we did. And now Susie's coming on because she's up to new, incredible, cool things. Welcome to the podcast, Susie.

Thank you. Glad to be here. Feels good to be back. You know, we've gotten to know you over the years for your sense of humor, your ability to, I'm not going to say, I don't know if I like it when people say not take yourself too serious because I think you probably should take yourself reasonably seriously. But you can make fun of yourself in a way. way that I think is relatable and engaging with the audience. So my first question for you is

where does that come from? How do you do that? Is that just you or have you kind of built that skill set? You know, it's probably a coping mechanism by being completely honest. I think growing up I had an older brother and I would say everyone in my family is like somewhat funny. Like we as a family laugh a lot and yeah I just think we are very I don't know if the word would be unsurious because my mom was very big on instilling like character traits like she always talked about like treating people well treating people how you want to be treated being kind like those were really important values in our family but we also just were a really fun family I guess you'd say and then I also think looking back like

even in the past year I've just been doing a lot of like soul searching and like looking into myself and like my past my childhood and stuff like that and I think I've realized that like a big part of my sense of humor and wanting to like lean into being like kind of silly and poking fun at myself at times is probably like genuinely a coping mechanism of like oh like how do I deal with my pain points in life and it's like oh I like make fun of it or I laugh through it and yeah I guess that's probably where it stem from but then I've realized it's like, you know, it could be a little unhealthy at times, but for the most part, like, it's actually helped me cope in a lot of ways.

I'm curious because, like, who were you in high school? I mean, you're obviously a very beautiful person. You've got a big personality. You can make people laugh. You can laugh at yourself, as you said. You have been able to cope. Like, who was Susie, you know, 10, 15 years ago? That's a good question.

I would say in high school I was like the poster child for like being in every possible extracurricular activity like if there was a sport I was going to try out for it even if I hadn't tried it before and if there was a new club I was like I'll join that sounds so fun oh my gosh new friends perfect like I was always just like dabbling in lots of things and like just kept just my so I would say my social life was like pretty pop-in in the sense that I was like not the most academic student. I was really creative. I was like every extracurricular I could take it was like theater voice, chorus, jazz choir. Like I filled up all my extracurriculars with like musical stuff. Like that was just very much my vibe. So a lot of my friends were like band, chorus, theater kids. But then another group of my friends were like student athletes.

And most of my friends were really academic. And I was like the non-academic friend that was friends with the academic students, if that makes sense. And so I would, I think that at the time, even then, like my mom again, I just, I think she's the most wonderful person. But she really stressed like being a kind person. So I just really valued like being kind to people. And I never, I don't think I ever really align myself with like mean people or like even kind of. I would say I think all my friends are really cool. they're cool people, but I wouldn't say that we were like the cool kids out like partying,

I guess you'd say. And I was definitely shy when it came to boys. If I'm being honest, like I didn't have a boyfriend until college. I didn't have my first kiss until college. Like I was so nervous about like I was cool to be friends with guys. But when it came to dating, I was like so shy. Like I couldn't be. I couldn't do it. Now, you're living in Los Angeles still, right how has that been then as you've transitioned from reality television to you know a new life making friends being shyer you know when it cut are you still shy with boys i mean you went on national television kiss some people i know i would say i'm actually not i wouldn't say i'm like actually shy i'm really confident to like go up to somebody but i think i would go up to somebody

under the assumption, like, this is going to be my friend and not the assumption of, like, oh, I'm going to hit on somebody. So I'm a friendly person to everyone, but it's definitely been interesting. And I will say, like, I don't know how I got so lucky in L.A. I haven't dated, like, I haven't been out dating. And I know everyone talks about, like, how dating is so crazy. Like, it went on a few dates before Justin and I started dating. But then, like, as far as friendships go, like,

I again people always say LA is so hard for friendships and it is genuinely it is but I got so freaking lucky like I got hired to do an event probably in the first two months of living here and it was like a young entrepreneurs group and there were girls that were like at the head of it I met them I was literally photographing their event as like a worker and one of the girls was like doing interested in doing Pilates and cycling classes and we just started talking to about it she started asking me to go with her and then two of the girls from that group have become like two of my best friends out here they're just like they don't do social media they're just girls that have businesses they are nice people like genuinely kind people and i've just like

slowly collected the nicest people and i swear i'm like how do i have the nicest people in l.a somehow i got lucky and so i've actually had a really good time like i guess i i've been able to collect good people around me but I mean as far as like dating and being shy on that sense like I haven't really dabbled you know I didn't haven't had the opportunity really to even like do that but I don't know like dreading the thought of it to be honest yeah yeah well there's you know I've obviously been married for a few years many benefits to be married don't this come off wrong one of the best is you never have to date again unless you're dating your partner which is very nice and you know you're very comfortable with now we've all seen the headline

and susie and i would be remiss not to ask are you ready to talk about it what is your status what are you willing able and feeling comfortable about sharing you did mention justin's name that you had gone on some few dates before him but we don't really know where you're at now yeah i think um i know you guys talked with justin as well recently and i know it's been so weird because like we haven't really addressed it um but yeah we aren't together, but we love each other so freaking much, like the point where it's just painful for both of us. So that's been tough to navigate. And I think obviously, I know you've gone through a public breakup. I've gone through one before as well. And it is just so painful. And I have regrets from how

the last one went, to be honest, even though like I feel like I was mostly private about that too. But even the little bit that you give to the people, like the way people recap it or put their own twists on it or make assumptions, it can just be so it can just be perceived so well or perceived just in a way that you don't want it to be. So I think Justin and I both have like kind of been trying to protect each other. And I think we've both been caught off guard by people like physically in person where we didn't really know that we were going to have to address it. And at the time, we weren't really talking about it. So we've both just been like dodging questions as far as like, we don't want to say too much because we don't want it to be misinterpreted. But even that could be misinterpreted. So yeah, it's just, it's been sad.

But I think we're both just trying to navigate it and like love each other through it. Like not going to like he came over and hung that shelf on my in my apartment not too long ago. So like we're on great terms. Like everything is, well, I wouldn't say everything's positive. But you know, there's so much love and there's no. animosity for sure. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.

Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age.

It's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Imagine that you're on an airplane and all of a sudden you hear this. Attention passengers.

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don't know if there's much good that comes out of a breakup outside of maybe trying to keep that like friendship alive behind the scenes or keep some, like, since, of respect and care and love for the other person because the people have just a thousand different opinions it's hard i think the question before we get into what's this next chapter for you and i don't want to drill down and drill into you know you and justin what happened that's not my business and nobody's really but i the question i asked justin that really got him and it got him because he he i could tell when we had this interview together and people can listen to it it's going to come out he you know he was dancing around a lot

lot trying to do this respectfully without saying too much or too little the same stuff you're saying like it's impossible but finally what i the question that i wanted to know and i wanted from him and i want to know from me too is so but how are you doing was what i asked him and i want to know and i think a lot of people are just curious how are you doing right now in this season of life that is changing and we will get into also the professional changes that you're making and starting up i think i'm doing okay like I think I'm good for the most part I think it's just like hard to be honest like I think it's just it's just hard like I think Justin and I both moved to L.A. like not knowing many people and like leaning on each other a lot as friends and like yeah it's just hard and I think we both

just feel like it's hard like we both basically came to a new city. didn't have family, didn't really have like strong friendships, but we had each other. And then we like developed a friend like a really good friendship. So I think even beyond the relationship, like just not having your best friend has been really hard because like we knew it when we crossed actually when we talked with you guys last time when we crossed that boundary of like friendship to more than friendship. We did keep it private for so long because we were like, what if this doesn't work out like what if we aren't compatible and now we tell everyone that we're dating and then we have to go back on it and it's like one we know that our really even

even if this happened early on like our friendship would be different because you know no guy I'm going to date is ever going to really be cool with me having a friend this close especially one that I've kissed like that's just not going to be acceptable um And so we knew that risk when we started dating. But then when we went public, it was like, okay, now it's like we're inviting people into this. And so knowing that I'm, we've kind of like lost just even like our best friend in L.A. And really one of my best friends in life and knowing that I can't get that back. Like, oh, sorry, so emotional.

all you um like that is what sucks so bad i think for both of us we just like had we genuinely had a real friendship before you i hate that i'm crying i cried all morning we just trust me this it's like a crying day i woke up at 8 a.m and cried over on this show so we're just gonna we're just gonna cry through the day it's fine okay so it's like a really emotional day all around yeah something's happening great yeah i think it's it's just like such a lot for both of us. Yeah, I don't know. I think it's just, it's just like tough. And I feel like I mean, I don't even know how to like word at all because it's it's just like genuinely so sad. Beyond the, you know, losing out on a boyfriend, it's like losing out on a friend and

like a huge, I don't want to say crutch in a bad way, but like moving to LA and really leaning on each other and like just that that's like been, we've been each other's person out here. So like really renavigating like our life out here and like thankfully we both have really great friendships like we've and we both have great families like we have we both have amazing parents amazing siblings great friendships in L.A. and back home and so we've both been really lucky and we both like loved each other through this like we've had to take bouts of like not talking to each other because we it's so easy to go back to how things. things were. And so it's just been like, okay, we really have to like differentiate, like

how our lives are going to look different. We've had to set boundaries. So it's just really hard. And I think it's hard for both of us. Okay. I do have two more questions. And I, they're not, they're not hopefully going to feel like I'm drilling in. But I'm curious about two things. One is, you know, you, you, a year ago, it felt like on social media, at least you can tell me if I'm wrong. A lot of these people from the show, you were close friends with, like the Andrew Spencer's and Justin's and that like friend group was really tight, right? People have now moved away. I was, we were just with them in Napa.

They've all kind of moved out to their own separate places. Some of them still visit L.A., but it's not the same. Has that added a different level too? Because you and Justin kind of started dating while people were still there. And then it seems like those people have moved away while you were dating. And now, you know, you and Justin aren't together and those people aren't there. Has that added a different, like a harder element to it? I don't think for me.

I think, so my friendship with Justin and Andrew really blossomed when we all came out to L.A. We lived like 10 minutes from each other. And it was like heading into summer. It was just like we had Brat Summer before Brat Summer was a thing. You know, we were just like out there living. And it was so fun. And it really was awesome. And it was so good for me, like looking back on that time, like I have such amazing memories from like all coming to L.A., all being new here and just feeling like the world was our oyster.

And you're like, oh, my God, like there's so many cool things to experience here. It was so unique for all of us. And so they obviously had a tight-knit friendship. And those guys, along with like Rodney and Nate, like. Like, they just really welcomed me in. Like, I remember Rodney invited me to Easter at his mom's house and just, like, knowing I didn't have family out here and stuff like that. And it was just really sweet.

And I felt like, I felt like a little sister vibe because none of us were dating. And I was even dating other people, like, at the time. And I just didn't really know that many people. And so I don't think it's changed much for me other than like, yeah, like that part of my life is over. but they weren't friendships that were like years deep where for just I think it probably is harder like he had deeper relationships with those people and his life everyone's life says kind of changed and so I feel like when I got here like my girlfriends are separate from what everyone saw online on social media like sure you'll see my girlfriends but they're not people that do content so it's not like that wasn't publicized so fortunately I do have a strong support system out here of girls and back home obviously but that friend group dynamic i think it's probably harder for justin that it's not the same as it used to be final question about this i promise um and this one is one i'm not that i i hope is beneficial

to the listener um we have this segment on almost famous uh called almost good advice where people write in kind of their life advice or their issues going on in the world and we try to answer them in the best we can usually falling short and then in my own life i have friends who have sat in a similar position to you so the situation is this uh and you've been through it you have a best friend somebody you're a best friend with like you love them and your best friend and then like you you start dating them that's not an uncommon story right or at least you're thinking about it in your head some would write it and say hey i have a best friend i'm starting to feel have feelings for but i don't want to lose the friendship so if you're giving advice to those types of people

My question, I guess, to run off of is, was it worth it? Would you advise it or would you have rather gone a different direction with it? You made me cry again. I'm not meaning to. I know. I know. I'm joking. It's a good question.

Yeah. That is a common situation. And I don't know how to answer that because there is a lot of elements to it. I think my honest truth on that is like absolutely it's worth it. like absolutely because one Justin and I's friendship would have had to have changed regardless like we were way too close for that to be normal if any of us sort of dating somebody else and even when I was dating somebody and Justin was dating people like our friendship dynamic changed and like obviously online we still did funny bits together and stuff but when we were

single our friendship was so close we were like basically dating but like just not kissing we were like spending so much quality time together we knew each other very well um and so that would have to change regardless of if we ever dated or not and when i get married when justin gets married when we have kids like i wouldn't be going over to justin's house to hang out with him and his wife like the way that me and justin used to hang out so you're going to lose some of that friendship anyways at least in my opinion respectfully like if you are in a respectful relationship it's going to be very unlikely that your partner is like that cool with you having a best friend like that um so yes it's worth it because it's going to change anyways but then on top of that like

we did have something very special and still do like there's still so much love there and i think we both kind of feel like well you never know like what might happen in the future because we there is so much love that it's like i even think that's probably why you know we would not even wanted to like address it so much because it's like we it's really hard to like once you say it it's like okay now everyone like is in on this and like knows and that's really the direction we're going and stuff like that where i think in normal relationships in life you're you know you can do this in private um so yes it's worth it i think if you feel love for somebody and you think there might be more there,

absolutely try for it because what we didn't have in our relationship was so freaking fun. And like it really was the best thing. It's like I've never had somebody that's been such a best friend that's like also become like a partner. And so it is really special and like, I do think it can work with the right person and with the right tools and the right head space

and all that stuff. It's really, really, really special. So, yeah, I would say go for it. You're going to probably lose out on the friendship eventually anyways. So if it's a special person to you, it's totally worth it. And even if it's just for a season of life, like you might get the most wonderful season of your life, you know? That's great advice. Yeah.

And I really can only listen to people who have been through it. You've been through it. And it is beautiful. And, you know, I got to see you two together. I got to see the two of you within a week of each other. now, not together, both beautiful humans and doing your best at this. And that's all the questions I have about your relationship. That wasn't my intention coming in to talk about it for so long, but I do think your advice

at the end will speak to many. So take the leap. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her.

Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him?

Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD...

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I'm so excited. So I was kind of approached about this project and started working on development with it and it's just kind of like blossomed into something that we didn't even really know we didn't even know exactly what it was going to be um the idea was that there's just like so many wild stories out there generally thinking about dating marriage stuff like that you know scandals um and then as we've kind of unpacked and started filming we've like it's just even developed into more so we have already filmed like probably six episodes and got three more before the end of this week and then we're launching next week um And the guests we've gotten are so badass.

Like they are some of the most interesting stories, in my opinion. A lot of them revolve around like cheating scandals, infidelity, like cult-like experiences. There's just, it's just like really taken its own form. There's so many unique guests. I don't want to like spill any tea because I'm like, I think we want to surprise people with the people. we have coming on. I'm sure, like, Bachelor Nation can probably guess one of them. But it kind of comes to like, it comes, it becomes like a true crime meets relationships, but not just like dating. It's like life relationships too. How are you finding your guess though? I mean,

these are sometimes stories kept secret or kind of pushed under the rug. How are you finding them? So a lot of them are people that have like either spoken publicly about it on TikTok. I feel like TikTok has been such a big part of our show. Like we keep finding these crazy stories about people who experience just the most wild things. Like I can't believe in the stuff that our guests have experienced. And even like docu-series and like different shows

that are coming out, I think it's like inspiring people to speak up about their experiences. And one of the things that we've realized on our show is that there's so much shame in the like the victim experience. Like people that are being victims of whether it's like crimes or cheating, lying, scams, like people are really shameful about their experience because they feel embarrassed. They feel like people are going to think I'm dumb. How could I fall for this? Like, why did I accept or tolerate this behavior for so long? And so that's become like a

really interesting nuance of the show too. It's like, oh, there's so much more to this than just a juicy story. It's like there's a psychological experience that people have. And the more people talk about it, the more people, like, learn how to avoid these red flags or avoid getting scammed or avoid accidentally joining a cult. There's, like, a lot of things that people feel shame about and they're afraid to talk about it, but we just, we're starting to see it more and more everywhere. So I feel like we're starting to uncover all these different pockets of communities and people that have had these experiences.

What makes you the, like, the right host for this show? Oh my gosh. Okay. So episode one, I talk about, I have a couple of interesting dating experiences, and I talk about them, but I dated a guy. I don't know if this will give it away, but basically I dated a guy that literally lied about, but I don't know if I should say it. I basically dated a guy that lied to me about having cancer in order for me not to break up with him. there was like so much more to that relationship that was just like wildly manipulative toxic cheating and so as we started to develop this show I was like you know what like I actually have a really crazy story and it's actually shaped how I've dated like that was one of the first people I dated in my entire life so like every person after that I've kind of brought in my own baggage and been like hey like I went through a really crazy experience and had something really traumatic happen in my life and so it's affected my really the whole trajectory of my life so I think talking

about it has been somewhat like therapeutic for me and then bringing on guests and like we've brought on you know specialists and people who can analyze these kind of people and it's just been such a great experience for me as well but I think that probably having that dating experience has really shaped me and it's also just like given me this like fire to be like yeah the more we talk about this the more people can learn and grow and not make the same mistakes is that the hope for the show then uh i mean if you thought about each episode or each season kind of the point to even putting this content out there outside of you know obviously it's going to be enjoyable to listen to right what is the underlying point that you hope these this

project brings to the world it's a great question I think it's a lot of it is just like opening up dialogue and like letting people or having people not feel alone unfortunately so many people go through a scandal manipulation lying cheating like so many people have these experiences and so yeah I think it's just like a place where people can like hear these stories and one be entertained because we do laugh a lot on the show like it's not it's not super dark it's not like yeah there's some true crime elements but it's we are not it's not a miserable show it's and it's certainly not this is one thing i feel like i've said time and time again like i never ever want it to feel like a show where we're like talking about men cheating on women like

we have men as guests that come on as well so it's like an environment where everyone can learn and be open and honest like people do crazy things and normal humans unfortunately have those experiences, even if they've not done anything to attract it or, you know, participate in it. So I think the underlying reason for doing the show we've kind of discovered is to like understand people better, understand why people lie and understand how to avoid putting ourselves in those positions if we can. I'm excited for this. I mean, I'm like trying to make a parallel here. It's like a date line meets... SNL?

I'm just kidding. Yeah, SNL. No, I, it's like, it's hard to say because some episodes are more serious than others. But yeah, it is, it's like, it's like uncovering just crazy stories, like unbelievable stories that you're like, how did this happen to somebody? And we basically ask all the questions like, how did you find yourself in this position? Are you the main host or a co-host? Right now it's just me.

Yeah. Cool. Okay, when does it come out? And where can people listen? September 4th, anywhere you listen to podcasts. And we're also gonna be doing some really fun video elements. Obviously, I'm a videographer, so like, it's like we gotta have some cool like visuals.

So on YouTube as well, there's gonna be some cool overlays and stuff like that. Live, laugh, lies. September 4th, hosted by Susie Evans. It sounds like an absolute hit. I mean, like I've, you know, I can't imagine something that's set up to be any less of a hit like this is this has all the stuff that people love right the little bit of true crime some comedy the ability like i said at the beginning without

even knowing the concept for the show that you can kind of make fun of you know yourself in situations that you know maybe are uncomfortable your ability to do that as a host and then also get the story out there so that people can learn and grow maybe not do it again anything else about the show that we didn't ask or didn't cover that you want to talk about i don't think so i think that's pretty much it i i guess like psa i'm new to hosting so if you guys listen just know it'll probably get better as it goes on you know yeah you should hear you should go back and listen to almost famous episodes one through 100 um and here my it's a process yeah and hear how i have not changed i've not gotten better i just still keep a job i don't know how that's not true but i'm here uh susy

You're great. Thanks for coming on. Thanks for sharing everything. It wasn't the intention to come on and talk about Justin as much as we did. But it did feel right. Like it feels like there's respect. There's care. There's love. It's tough. But also got some good advice from you. Really, the big reason we wouldn't have you on is to talk about this, you know, live, laugh, lie. September 4th, everywhere you can listen to podcast hosted by Susie. Thanks for coming. Oh, thank you so much. Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcasts on IHartRadio

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