The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Mama Knows Best at this Almost Famous/Help I Suck at Dating Crossover Party!

Episode Date: May 2, 2022

Ben and Ashley are hanging out with Jared and Dean from Help I Suck at Dating for a special crossover party presented by Pandora!  And, our special guests are the women who know these Bachelor Nation superstars best... their moms! Hear all the embarrassing stories from their childhood and soak up some motherly wisdom! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Eumanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble.

Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your... free iHeartRadio app search emergency intercom and listen now this is the ben and ashley i almost famous podcast with iheart radio this is a very special episode this is a very very very special episode we have jared here as a co-host yes hello i love it when jared's here it's no no so do i guys thank you but let's get to the real meat of the podcast here Ashley is here yes and we here today to celebrate our mothers, the mothers that we love, the mothers that I think I can

speak on behalf of all of us very quickly here and say that we've been very lucky to all been gifted and blessed with mothers that we love, admire, and look up to, and that we're very thankful for. And so today we're just honoring them with this episode. This is a very special episode for all of us, especially. I have a whole new appreciation for moms, of course, because now I am one and I know how hard of work it is. Wow. It never stops. I now understand why people say it's the hardest job in the world. We have one child and it's overwhelming. Of course, it is beautiful and loving and amazing. And I'm obsessed with him and look at that facie right there. Like, it's amazing. Yeah. I mean, we love him more than anything. I mean, this is about mothers. So you

love him more than anything. I can see that. And it's, I posted about it, uh, recently about like, me viewing the love you have for Dawson through my eyes, like his father's eyes, you know, and seeing it's, and we talked about it earlier. Not everybody's, you know, lucky enough to have parents in their lives, to have mothers in their lives. And so to see the way that you treat Dawson at such a young age and being new, being such a new mother, but already being, such an incredible mother is pretty awesome. And it's just, I think, you know, like every parent has that moment when their child is born. They're like, I don't know what the hell I'm doing.

Everybody thinks that. They don't, and like nobody knows what they're doing. And am I going to be a good parent? And seeing how Ashley is just instinctually a great parent just because you love them. But you too. Well, this is about mothers. Okay, I know. Father's Day will do this, all right?

You can praise the hell out of me on Father's Day. But, yeah, it's not easy, though. I see what Ashley goes through. There's a certain thing that you have with Dawson that I don't have. No, stop. I swear, well, it's just, it's not, he came out of your stomach, you know, like I get it. He came out of my stomach. Well, I was going to say, he came out of your vagina, okay?

I don't know how PG-13 we're getting here. Well, is the vagina PG-13 or the PG? I think that this is probably, in this circumstance, it's PG. Yeah, yeah. It's just, it's biology, guys. Well, we do have a big episode in front of us. I want to take a second here and give a shout out to Pandora Jewelry. You know, we can talk and share and praise our mothers and praise all the mothers out there listening and all the future mothers out there and all the people that hope to be mothers or that are, let's call them, mentors and guiders and maybe their next door neighbors live or their nieces and nephews lives.

There are so many people out there who have a huge impact on the kids of this world. And we can praise them with words, but it's oftentimes really special when you do something intentional, like get them a gift. And Pandora Jewelry recognizes that. And that's why they're sponsoring this episode today to highlight people that are mothers on this very special day. And we want to thank them for doing that. We want to thank them for the gifts that were sent for our mothers.

helps us show some extra love on this day as well. Yes, thank you, Pandora, because I didn't get anything from my mom. Yeah. I mean, I did now. Thank you, Pandora. You don't tell her that. We're just going to tell her that you got her something very special. That's right.

Hey, let's take a break here. When we come back, we're going to start bringing in our moms to this podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Yumanzoor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect.

And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. Before we do get our moms on, I just wanted to say a couple of things. It's going to be so, it's going to seem really weird and random. But I feel like you would totally be thinking the same thing.

I never like, like, when I worried about my family and stuff, but like, I was always, you know, I always like worried about my family, but I never worried about like how I am, like my safety or my health or whatnot. And now you're thinking of Dawson's safety. Yeah. And now I think about how your parents think about your safety. Yeah. But I think about me.

being, like, safe and healthy for him so that he has me. Yeah, I agree. Right? I never used to be concerned about myself. I was always concerned about, like, me having my family, but, like, not me, like, my own well-being. But now I actually worry about my well-being because it has to do with his. Yeah, I agree.

And then I also just want to say that we're thinking about, like, all the people out there that want to be moms, that can't be moms or having trouble being moms, we under, you know, we understand just like how emotional that is, especially on days like today. Yeah. Okay. I think Ben's mom is coming in first. If, yeah, so like, what are we going to do? What are we going to talk about, guys with the mom?

Should we like have the person whose mom it's not asked that other mom questions? Heck yeah. I think that's fantastic. So Jared and I should ask Ben's mom questions. Okay. Without further ado, here is Amy Higgins, the mother of me. who I love so much. I love my mother so much,

not myself so much, but I love her. She's coming on right now. Hi, congratulations you two. Oh, thank you. I wish we can show you him right now. He's so asleep in his sway. Do we look like new parents?

Yes. You look the same. Disheveled, tired. You don't look disheveled at all. Oh, yeah. But you've also been battling your little not feeling so well. Oh, yeah.

All of that on top of each other. I know. It's been a little trifecta. But anyway, let's not talk about us. Amy, this is about you. Well, first of all, how are you? I'm great. Happy Mother's Day. Thank you so much.

Yeah, I can't believe it. Happy Mother's Day, Mother. Thank you, so. Amy, whoa, wait, wait, wait, I got an urgent question, Jared. All right, I got one after you. Amy, your son was coined as the perfect Ben. How does that feel raising somebody that was in the pop culture? sphere referred to as perfect and like what did you do right what did you do so right to create that

human uh well you know every mom thinks their child is perfect so yeah in some senses it's spot on um uh i think having one helped too i he got my all of my attention which i don't know if he found that to be necessarily the best but um And he's also just a great kid, you know? He was the kind of kid like he is the person today. He was always so inquisitive and asked a lot of great questions and just wanted to know a lot and meet a lot of people. So he made it pretty easy to raise a pretty solid kid.

What's the most embarrassing thing Ben has ever done? Oh, Jesus. The most that I like the worst thing he's done. If you can't think of something that's embarrassing. Like one time he got in big trouble. Oh, well. When he wasn't perfect. I think probably, even though I didn't get to witness it,

I think one of the most embarrassing things, maybe for him and one of the funniest things for me to hear is the story is when he is at the Y and he was on a treadmill and was running along and, I don't know, got caught in the treadmill. Like a cartoon character. Lifting right off the back end of it and slammed him to the wall right. oh wait a minute you fell in the treadmill and then you then you fell into the wall and here's the best part i had a higgins basketball jersey on so that higgins was on the back of the back of my shirt so everybody

knew who it was there was no hiding i actually thought um she was gonna say that you know my very and this is actually sad and it all worked out but my very first car accident i was 16 years old his very first car accident it's actually i think my only one i've never been in another crossed my fingers, knock on wood. I was with my buddies early in the morning. We were heading to like McDonald's or something to get breakfast. And I was distracted. And I rear-ended a lady pulling into the YMCA.

That's why I thought she was going to say this. This is probably the most trouble I should have gotten in. But I think I felt so bad myself that the lesson was already learned. So that's not the end of the story. what happened was she was on her way to the hospital to have her child and so this was a really scary moment for us

everybody was healthy everybody was good but you can imagine how much guilt I felt in that moment and how much like fear I had in that moment she was in labor and you hit her

well she wasn't labor I mean I don't know she was picking up her mom at the Y to bring her to the hospital she was pregnant he rear-ended her then she went into labor yeah so super scary moment

for so many people like as a teenager you're really scared you're like you know you've learned your lesson already on being distracted like that's not a thing i'm going to do again but here's where the story maybe gets like embarrassing for me um the cops come uh you know they're questioning me like what how this happened and i'm telling them and they're like okay um we need to search your car and i'm like okay and they pop up my trunk and the night before my buddies and i had gone out tee peeing and so there was like a hundred rolls of toilet paper like bounding out of my trunk when they open it up um so the most indiana thing i've ever heard about just a great night out teaping yeah yeah so i that's what i thought she was going to say i'm i'm sure she was hesitant

this year too much um but that was that was what comes to mind for me is where i think everybody was the most disappointed in me. Amy, what's the best age for like, you know, a lot of people say what's the worst age? I'm curious, you know, you have a wonderful son. He's in his early 30s now. What do you think the best age? Because I'm curious, you know, we have Dawson right now. He's credible as a baby.

I'm curious what, you know, hopefully knock on wood, we're all healthy and, you know, alive. in 25 years when he's an adult. And I'm curious how much the relationship is going to change. I really feel like for me, even though it kind of was some of the hardest too, but some of the best, I really liked the sixth grade through freshman year age. You know,

he was growing so fast. There was so many things to be involved in. He was really enjoying kind of his, independence um we did a lot of really cool things together as a family uh you know with vacations and sports and you know it was it was just to me that was a really kind of uh really alive and fun time you started to really see the person uh that was evolving and been um even though i i seriously am loving the adult adult man at stage. It's kind of a weird thing, a time of being a mom too. And Ben and I just

had this kind of really cool conversation about that much long ago. But I would say the most fun time was, for me, the like sixth grade through freshman year. That's when my dad started really appreciating having us around. I think it's probably because you can start having adult conversations with the kids, but at the same time, there's still kids enough where you don't have to worry about them making stupid teenager mistakes. Sure. Yeah, I agree. I guess my last question for you is as a fantastic mother who has raised the perfect Ben, what are some tips that you have for Jared and I in parenting Dawson that maybe isn't stereotypical, like things we wouldn't really think about um well i feel like uh maybe it happened on accident but i also feel like

it was a good thing um from the time that ben was a toddler all the way up through today i feel like and you can ask him to verify this but i really felt like uh i was pretty good about giving ben the opportunity to make decisions for himself um you know right down to just you know what stupid t-shirt he put on and combination of clothes or what breakfast serially picked you know um and some of it was not always great you know but i i don't think i was ever much of a helicopter mom or too too opinionated and when he decided to make choices you know unless it was just going to be really damaging I mean, I don't know.

But I really feel like that is one of the best things you can do for your kids. I did not grow up really feeling like I, and it was kind of just the time of the era that I grew up in. I didn't make or even have the opportunity to make many decisions on my own. It was there was a lot of expectations or things were just pretty norm. There was a lot of norms to that. But I think now it's just really, really good to. develop in your children, their ability to just make choices for themselves. I just want to briefly follow up on that because that's the type of parent that I think both

Ashley and I want to be. I think one thing that concerns me is how are we going to like really in the moment do it? Like let Dawson make his own decision even though we know it might not be the best decision if that makes sense because we love them so much. Like of course we want to be the parents that like, yeah, go, go to the playground, come back at six, dinner's at six. Like, you know what I mean? I'm just saying, no, he's not allowed to do that. He is allowed to choose the breakfast cereal he wants or a stupid outfit. Well, we'll find that out.

Yeah, that's those kind of decisions. I'm sure there's also like, you know, more serious decisions that Amy's getting at. Well, Jared and I are really concerned because we were both like very well-behaved kids by nature. I'm not sure if it's nature and Archer. All I know is my sister and I are totally different when it comes to our young adulthood and the decisions that we made. So in my case, I feel like it might be nature. Jared, just like they're both of us just really good kids, like the kids that you wish that you'd have. And I get scared that we're going to have a rebel child. My point being and we won't know how to deal with it. How did you, how were you able to come to that point where

we're like, even though I love you more than anything, and I want you to make what I think is the right decision. I'm going to let you decide on your own and then, you know, live with the consequences or the positive ramifications. Well, I think a lot of it just comes through practice. Like, you know, you start that process when they're young. And so as they get older, you know, it gets a little easier. Also, too, I really feel like, I hope that then always felt like if he ever was making a decision or in a situation where he wasn't in a good place or there was an issue that he felt like it was safe for him to call home. Yeah.

Okay. Jared's parents and my parents definitely did the same thing. I think Jared's especially. Not that he always did, but I think you also have to make it very comfortable for your children or very, there must needs to be a real security. them knowing that if they ever made that phone call, it was safe for them to do that. I think she's, I was actually thinking about this. There's many things, there's many things, obviously that we've talked about a hundred times on here. Ashley, you and I, especially on what

we love and appreciate and admire about our parents. So you could go on and on. But I think I was like, what's the one unique thing? It's funny to you ask that question that my parents did. And we did just talk about it was I never I think there was a level of respect to it that I felt but I had the ability to question like why are you telling me to clean my room three times in one week is it not my fault that my room's dirty and that I want to live in filth and they would say yeah but and we would have a conversation that was very open and I never felt like I couldn't ask a question I never felt like my questions needed to become arguments because I felt like hey I've already been given the respect to ask a question, there's no reason to, like, jump on them for every

decision that they tell me to make. And so I do. I think the thing my parents did was they implemented a sense of curiosity in this world in me that I greatly appreciate. I don't think it was easy. It's not easy for your kid to, like, go out and hang out with the wrong people and, you know, go out on a Saturday night and they don't really know where you're going. But, like, then I would always have the ability to tell them and talk to him about it or, like, be like, hey, last night was weird. I ran into some odd stuff. Let's talk about it. So just that openness is something that I think was not easy, but it was really healthy. And I think it's been even healthier as I've gotten older. Yeah. I agree. Well, Mother, I love you a ton. Thank you so

much for coming on. Happy Mother's Day again. Enjoy Florida. You look really tan. Soak it in. I love you. Thanks for coming on. Hey, it's my pleasure. It's good to see you. Bye. I can see you. all right well it's my mom's turn and she's been dreading this because she has some serious stage fright even though she's just really talking to you two and jared is her son-in-law and ben my mom has said before she feels very comfortable with you there's something about you that puts her at ease i love your mom i don't know why she's nervous maybe we should make her nervous let's make her nervous well you should be looking in yourself i'm her son-in-law okay so i'm i'm going to do the opposite of making her nervous.

So, Ben, this is all on you to ask the tough questions. I'm literally going to be like, hey, Audrey, your cookie's great. Oh, there she is. Welcome to the podcast, Mom. So happy to be here. Yes, I know you are. You're absolutely thrilled. All right.

Well, we're doing this thing where we're going to let the other two interview the mom who's not ours. So these two are going to be asking the questions. Yeah. And you're kind of, I mean, you are Jared's mother now. like you're a mother-in-law and so I'm going to guide us through this. Jared's going to chime in with some great questions about Ashley that I'm sure he's asked you to before or if he hasn't, now's the time to do it. But again, thank you for joining us. You're always great. I'm happy you're

here. Thanks, Ben. My mom looks very young, by the way. My mom looks very young. Well, she's very tan right now. So she has that going for. It's a very special day for us, because, as you know, I don't think there's ever a question in your mind. And I want you to respond to this with your thoughts. But I guess I'll phrase it in a question. How big of a gift is it, Audrey, for you to know just how much you're loved by your daughters, like that you don't doubt their love for you? Wow. Okay. Well, we have a really good relationship. We were very close, and I'm very blessed that we are, you know, a very close family. I didn't have that growing up, so I think that, you know, either you repeat, right, or you go the opposite way.

Either you act like, you know, you do exactly the way that you were raised with your children, or you decide, you know, you're going to make some changes. So I think that that's probably why I spoil them and I'm the mother that I am because, you know, I didn't have all that growing up. What are the things that you do, that you chose to do, maybe differently or that you just chose to do so that that relationship was always there with your daughters? I think we spend a lot of time together, you know, we, well, at right now, you know, living in Rhode Island, it's hard because they're, they're not living in this area. But, you know, we talk once or twice a day, text, you know, video chat. I was going to say. Jared, I face time her twice a day. No more than that.

Jared's like your mom's call on. yeah. I can, wait, I can elaborate a little bit more on examples for my mom because my mom, you know, she gets staged right. There's just like a few things. I'm thinking like when I was younger, we'd come home, she'd be home. We'd watch Dr. Phil and Oprah together. We'd probably learn lessons from that.

We would eat dinner together. And then we'd like always have little outings. like how many times do we go to the mall? Like those are like little bonding things all the time. We always were doing things with my mom. I never wanted to. I would also like there's something in me. Like I always wanted to be with my mom.

I was never embarrassed by being with my parents like on field trips. When everybody wanted to sit at the back of the bus with their friends and be cool, I was like, it didn't even think that seemed weird to me. I was like, no, I'd rather sit in the front with my mom. Yeah. Ashley always says that Lauren is her best friend. But I would also say that Audrey, you are her best friend as well.

I would say it's the three of you guys together. You also don't like the thought of a parent being a friend. It's different when you're 34. Okay. You know, I would say if at as sweet as it, we always say, Audrey, you know this, that it's like, hey, we, we want, Dawson is our son. He's not going to be our friend, you know,

because we want to be able to raise him and, yeah, but of course, yeah, your mom is your best friend. You're 34. Yeah, I always had a problem with that when people said, oh, my mom is my best friend. It's like, that's your mom, it's your parent. But I just don't know what I'm saying. It's like, you know, now that

she's 34, relationships changes. Yes. Of course. And for the best. So, Audrey, I want to get to the brass tax of things. Who do you love more? Lauren or Ashley? Let's get real. Okay? Don't be in around the bush anymore. Sophie's choice.

No. It would be impossible. There's so many, it's it's great seeing you interact with both Lauren and Ashley because you you do well of course because you and Lauren are while very similar also you guys are very different in a lot of different

ways and so the way your mom interacts with you is different than the way your mom interacts with Lauren but I can see how you it's not like for better or for worse it's just different aspects of it. There's different personalities so I kind of like adapt to each personality you know what I mean? But we have the

grandson now so you love her more now right we've completed everything that she wanted we got married I had a baby it's all good but now it's all about awesome yeah what's it like to be a grandma now fabulous it's like changes the whole dynamic of the family yeah right it's just it used to be you know hi what you do today now it's like show me the baby by by the way Audrey I don't know if you can If you can hear Nancy just snickering in the background. No, this is fantastic. I love Dawson. It's just great that we love that we love Jared's parents too.

So it's not like there's no competition. It's just we love raising our grandson together. Absolutely. Let's just have them talk. That'll be great. They're going to talk over each other. It's going to be chaos. Oh, because we had Dawson, obviously, in the house for the first three weeks of his life.

Yeah. Were you terrified of that? Was that before? I was a little nervous going up and down the stairs. And, you know, I'm just having a fear of stairs, I guess, especially at your house. So I'm just more protective, whereas you're the parent, you know, you just grab them and you walk. But when you're- Yeah, he's like a rubber band-dust.

I know. When you're not used to being around an infant, it's kind of like I walk slow. slower and just more cautious. If you had a choice, like, do you miss Dawson being in the house, or do you like the fact that, like, you get to see him and then you don't have to, you know. Well, I wish you guys look closer. Yeah. You know, because he changes from week to week.

But I'm happy. It's a short flight, so I'm happy that I can see him as often as I can. Well, you're welcome anytime. We love having you here. She loves hearing that. She thinks that she feels like you must get tired of her in the house. No, I don't. Audrey, every time, first of all, you treat me like a king that I don't, like, every time I go to the house, your house, I walk in, there's like a chakutery board set up for me. And you're just like, oh, I put this thing together. And it has like seven different meats and cheeses and crackers. And it could feed a small army, but I love every second of it. And then you're just so kind to me, especially during, I mean, every time I go over during the pandemic when I was there for four months, if anybody was going to get tired of anybody.

I'll think about it. Yeah, you spend a lot of time here. so yeah so and then anytime you come here you're so good with dawson you clean the house you're just like always doing something uh it's very nice and you're a wonderful human being so it's always very nice to have you here see i'm so happy i'm on this podcast today this is really nice thank you but i love coming and you know i just i'm just getting used to having a grandson so it's all been good I love to see you guys as parents because you guys are really amazing parents. Oh, well, thank you, Mom.

That's because you raised us very well. You raised me well. All right. Do you want to say happy Mother's Day to you, Mom? Happy Mother's Day to you, Mom. You have a little Pandora gift coming your way. What? Yeah.

Really? Well, thank you so much. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble.

Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. All right. Here we go. Nancy, are you in the world of Zoom? You don't have to turn your video on. Hello. Happy Mother's Day. Oh, well, thank you. You're welcome. Welcome to the podcast, Almost Famous with Ben and Ashley. I was in Ben. Hello, Ben. Hello. How are you? I am well. It's good to talk to you. Thank you for joining us today. Oh, thank you.

you for having me you know what nance uh i never really asked you this maybe i have maybe years ago but let's do it for the people now do you think that you did something to raise jared so right to be the perfect gentleman i'm sorry i keep using the word perfect in this podcast but seriously jared you know that you are a a gentleman okay do you think it was like nature or nurture how much of it is both you know like did you do something to just make such a handsome man be so respectable as well? I don't know. There's very few combinations.

Ben and Jared are two examples of very handsome men who could probably get away with being not as gentlemanly as they are. Yeah, I'd give a lot of credit to our fathers. That is true. And I agree with that. And honestly, you know, I believe I have said this and you probably it will ring about. I do believe Shannon came out. with their own personality right out of the room

and so did Jared. And I do believe that, sure, we molded them, but I think he came out of kind, considerate, caring human being. And I think it's, did we help a little along the way, like making a cake?

Yeah, we might have put the frosting on and decorated it a little bit. Well, if anybody saw pictures of me as a child, they know that cake making was a specialty of mine. Oh, for love of God. I'm sorry. Everyone on my side of the family went to a trubby stage, and I'm still in it. So, sorry.

Those are some of my favorite pictures. Nancy, I, you know, from the outside looking in, right? Ashley, obviously, is in love with Jared. They're married. They have a beautiful, beautiful baby. You are, you're somebody that's been along for that ride since the beginning. Yes. But I'm on the outside.

And so sometimes I feel like in life, the outside opinion is the one that is the most impactful. And so, you know, I remember meeting Jared for the first time. I remember sitting next to him in the Bachelor Mansion on night one, looking at this guy. And I said these words to him. I said, hey, dude, I don't belong here. And he looked back at me and he said, I don't either. And now that's kind of funny. It was never shown.

But what he did in that moment was he showed empathy. and he made me feel less alone in a moment that was very overwhelming and very hard to process. And that's where you come in, Nancy. My question for you is Jared is an empathetic soul. He is a tremendous husband and a great father and a great friend. Was there an intentionality to you raising him? Was there things that you did on purpose to help him become that? Or do you feel like it was still like you said earlier,

just you kind of putting the icing on the cake, just helping him walk down a path forward? Or do you feel like there were some things that you said, no, as a parent, I want to instill this into my son? Well, of course. I think every parent wants to instill something in their child, whether it's Jared or whether it's my daughter Shannon. And with a son, I did have an intention to make sure that he was sensitive and had empathy and certainly. was respectful, not just of women, of men, of, you know, because, um, so I don't know if I answered that correctly. I did do, I did do things with intention. What did you do? Of course. What specifically? What do I need to do to Dawson to have him turn out to be like Jared?

Oh, goodness gracious. Love him. Love him. Love him. Respect him. Um, listen to him. And, I went to classes. You went to classes? I did. And that's, you know, we're going to get down. And I think I've admitted this with Shannon.

Shannon was more of a, I told Shannon something once and she did it. I said no to Shannon and she took no for an answer. Jared was not so much, that same kind of child. I would say something nine times and Jared would not listen. And I would get frustrated. And so he was about four or five.

And I said, I either am going to go take a course or I'm going to kill the child. I don't know which most of the first. Well, I'm still here. So she took the course. That's fair. I took a course. And it was like five weeks. But the one main thing that I took out of that course was positive reinforcement.

So if you did something that like put in the little kitten in the mic. You gave him a lot of Burger King. He put a kitten in the mic. listen I didn't turn the microwave on I was a kid I don't know what the hell was going on I know I know you didn't know what you were doing but if he did that's great so as he got older if he did something that you know was not acceptable or just wasn't you know I just talked back or wasn't you know we just I would go in first with everything that he did really well that day and how happy and how proud I am of him and that would really work a lot better than what I was doing because what I was doing is just like grab his elbow and pulling him in the bedroom and that wasn't working so well. No. Hey, Nancy,

there is, there's a theme here. Obviously, and I think you've been listening on, but from my mom, and I have a great relationship with my parents. And a lot of ways I always have. And there's just a lot of love and,

a lot of respect that I have for them. And, and then obviously with Ashley's mom, the same thing. There was respect. There was love. There was a, there was a friendship.

it sounded like going on there. Nancy, you just said it. You had the positive reinforcement and the respect. Again, you used a respect. There's a theme in this parenting of three parents that we believe are incredible mothers where respect was given to their child. How important now looking back was that to respect your child and to love your child? You touched on something with your mom, which really hit home to me because I was brought up with. well, why did you say that? Because I said so. That's the way I was born up.

I wasn't allowed to ask questions, right? My generation. I wasn't allowed to, you know, say, well, why do I have to go? Well, why? Because I said so. So that's what I had to re-learn that behavior and not, and I didn't want to be that parent that just stood there and said, because I said so.

So we would have discussions. Like you said, so you touched on that. And I think with that develops a friendship as they get older. and a mutual respect with each other. It's something that you're spot on there. And it's something I just don't want to under-emphasize when it comes to how we see our parents. Because today, because of that also, and because of that stance and because of that intentionality, because of the ability to ask questions, you know what I can still do?

I can still ask my parents' questions at 33 years old. And I can still lean on them because I know that they've done it since the day I was born. and I know as I get older, it's only going to get easier to continue to have those more adult now conversations. Nancy, you've raised an incredible child. You have an incredible grandchild here, who I know you're so excited for and proud of. Thank you for joining us today. Oh, thank you for having me. And Jared is an amazing son.

I couldn't ask for a better son. And I just want to throw in one, I am so grateful because we would go to like, like, like Ashley touched on in the front of the bus we would go to movies together when Jared was 16 he still go to the movies with his mom and we would laugh

and we would have so much fun together so yeah and how special is that I know I don't know why we I remember we saw we saw Mission Impossible 3 which came out in 2006

in a movie theater and I just yeah I have a vivid memory of that why I don't remember but anywho I was 18 at the time mom thank you so much for joining us I really appreciate it.

Happy Mother's Day. I love you. Thank you. I love Ashley. I love Dawson. Thank you for having me on. Thank you. And don't forget,

if you can watch Dawson tomorrow, that would be great. Thank you. Okay. Love you. Bye. Man, I really wish your mom could have thrown in that story

of when you played dead. One time she came home and Jared had... Why would you? Yeah. He got ketchup and he pretended like it was blood and he put a knife

next to him in the family room. He laid there. Listen, there was their own fault. They loved me. I was watching Halloween. I was watching scream. You know, I had a very imaginative mind. And I was like, oh, I got a great idea.

Well, here's the thing. Jared, it doesn't sound like you were the easiest of children, but it sounds like he did the things that you needed to and the right things to make sure your mom knew that you loved her, that she was going to be a part of your life, and that she always was. was going to be a part of your life. And I think we can't underestimate that. And hey, I just want to say on behalf of all of us here, we love talking to all of our moms. And we're going to continue this episode on Jared and Dean's podcast, Help I Suck It Dating with some other very special people in our lives. Guess who they are, are significant others. Thank you to all our moms for coming

on, even though my mom hates to do things like this. She does it for her child and her grandchild. She was good. We are going to continue this conversation on Help I Suck at Dating, but instead of moms, we're going to do it with significant others. And we want to thank Pandora for making this episode happen and for treating all our moms to some beautiful jewelry. It is the place to go to for Mother's Day gifts. So if you're thinking, what do I get mom?

Make sure to go check out a Pandora store near you or their stuff online. Follow after me. I've been Dawson's mom. And I've been Nancy's son. And I've been Amy's son. And this is the Almost Famous Podcast. Happy Mother's Day, Mothers. Follow the Ben and Ashley I, Almost Famous Podcasts on IHartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.

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