The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Mansplaining

Episode Date: February 1, 2025

Thelma & Louise are grilling "Golden Bachelorette" contestants Chock, Gary, and Guy and getting all the good stuff!Golden fans will be in shock at Chock. And, then in an unexpected twist the guys put Thelma and Louise on blast. You'll never believe which Golden Guy was catfished after being on the show!Email us at: [e-mail] or call us at 844-4-I Do Pod (844-443-6763)Follow I Do, Part 2 on Instagram and TikTokSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.

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Listen to bananas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to I-D-Dy. you part two, the podcast that's all about finding love the second time around. Here we are, Belmont Louise, still single, still trying to do our best. And we are luckily in Pebble Beach at the Pro Am with three amazingly hot age-appropriate guys, also from The Bachelor. So welcome. We have Chalk, Gary, and Guy, and it's Thelman Louise. And as much as we would love to grill you all day long about The Bachelor, we are actually here to talk to. We are actually here to talk to the three of you about chapter two dating, post the TV show, what it was like pre,

and just kind of get into the minds of you three amazing men. I'm going to make a slight correction, not the bachelor, the golden bachelor. Oh, sorry. You just look so young. We are the golden bachelors. Golden bachelors. From the golden bachelorette. But because we're also in your age range, we just look at you guys.

I'll take that. You're eligible. I think we'll receive it. Yeah. Thank you for sitting down. Yeah, my dating lights. Yeah, let me slide closer to guy over here. My dating life's been great after the show.

Five or six different dates. I met all kinds of women. Where's Joan? Bring her in here. Be in a lot of trouble. But has your dating life changed post the show? Like, what was the, I love to know the dating kind of pre the show. Pre the show.

You know, I dated differently. I dated locally in the Reno area. But then I decided to, like a lot of us at this age, I delved into the, dating apps. Oh, so fun. It's a crazy thing. We had to tell them our dating app situation. It's interesting enough, I would actually say, you know, I met a lot of very, very nice,

fun, intelligent, you know, women on the dating apps. Oftentimes for me, though, they were, you know, I had travel, you know, to be able to actually see them in person because they don't necessarily live in the Reno, you know, Tahoe area. Can I ask a question real quick, though? Percentage-wise, how many of their pictures? look like that's my question too i mean it's react and then we'll give you our take i also want to know your age range too because that's a whole thing we experience in l.a is guys want to date way younger yeah or they put you know their ages they lie about they put their age is 60 and then in their

comments they say my age is actually 72 and i'm like it didn't make sense there's a lot to we have a lot to unpack let's jump to this because i told you i'll ask anything okay so when they do that all the time and they go, well, guys want younger women. So we'll start with you. Is it Thelma or Louise? Thelma. I'm Thelma. What's the youngest, what's the youngest guy? Well, I'm not going to lie, post-divorce, and my divorce was a bit unique. My recipe for kind of moving on was a little different. And so I got divorced at, how old was I? It was 2014 for both of us. and we're, so you were 41, 42. That's 41.

So I probably like, I mean, 25. But like, breathe, breathe. But by I'm telling you, it was, it was one and done. It was literally like two or three for six months. And then it was like, okay, we have nothing in common. They just got in their first credit card. And like, we couldn't relate to it to them. I do think part of the journey in life, too, is you need to do that to see if that's what you want.

Oh, I didn't want it. I just needed to, like, heal. And that was, like, my process. And then I was like, I'm ready for people that I can actually relate to. Yeah, yeah. All right. And you? So when I first got divorced, I was on a girl's trip to New York.

And my friends were like, we're going to do something different for you. And so they literally like hoard me out there. And they found some young hot guy. And you basically sent him home with, I don't even know if there was Uber back then 10 years ago. And it was literally one and done. And I was like, this is just not my jam. Like, I prefer age appropriate, definitely. A lot of my friends in L.A.

date younger guys and they have to pay for them and they it's all i don't even also this could be a misconception but i feel like as a woman i don't want to date somebody too young because i don't want to feel old yeah and i i think a misconception that i have is do men want to date younger women because then it makes them feel kind of either young or it's a trophy and kind of status yeah and so for me dating someone younger, I would not go below 10 years below my age. I want someone that's refreshing in Los Angeles. Yeah, age appropriate for me because coming up through the ranks like we do, we look, they are still finding their way. And I'm at a point in my life now where I don't want to help you find your way. I don't have time because it's just not

worth it. And it's very expensive, as you can imagine, dating someone younger who's expecting an older guy to step in and be like the sugar daddy. Right. Totally. So it's 10 years for me. I will go 55, but not below that. He's 65. Doesn't he look good? You all look amazing. He's in the golden ears. Amazing. Okay. Yeah, you, what about you guy? What's your age? Yeah. Let's take kind of two criteria with that. And I would, you know, be in the same lines as Gary here, somewhere around 10 years. But, you know, I don't put in an absolute age because, I mean, if they were 53 and, you know, there was a connection. Sure, I would go down. You want to date me? Is that what you're saying? In other words. No, no. You know, no.

Right. It's, you know, it would be flattering. But the reality is, as you alluded to, you just don't have many things in common. I always like to say that if I have to explain to him who led Zeppelin is, we got a problem. Well, and also, I mean, it's not pretty to talk. about but what about the health i mean let's be honest well that and that's the other is is that you know especially if somebody's younger and they actually would be interested in going out with you to say you know i'm 66 you know and let's say you're 46 well when you're my age i'm going to be 86 years old do you really want that's not so cute anymore women age much better than than men do so you three have aged really well uh thank you're like fine wines i do have a story for you

yeah that's that's that's a that's comforting you know the date that uh don't and i had at disneyland first one-on-one date, the execs gave me a whole bag of things. And I came back and I said, guys, I'm going to start giving this stuff. No, we saw it on the show. What you didn't see here is I said, okay, I'm going to give this prize to which one of you, Bachelor guys, Bachelorette guys, has been with the youngest woman. And I will not tell you, because it's Geico, but it would absolutely surprise the fans who'd been with the youngest woman.

Oh, you have to say now. Guy Co. I love Guy Co. Not this guy. Oh, so you're the guy. You know, it was Guy Co. I hear you because you said guy, and I'm thinking. No, it was not guy.

It's not my brother over here. The fans, they can sit there and think about that, but it was somebody you would least expect. Oh, I love that. You guys remember who it was? Yes. By the way, the whole frat aspect, can you imagine going back in time after like living the lies you live and then literally going back into a frat house mentality? How much fun to do that for another kind of sliver?

Well, ironically, we three were roommates. No. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, we were. No wonder you guys are sitting so cozily on that couch together. If it were any of us, we'd be the same. same way for the whole group we had a lot of late night conversation yeah it was great yeah did you two do apps also no you want to i did an app like 20 30 years ago uh not 30 oh my god

i'm really sure my age uh it was like around the early 2000s and um i had some pretty good luck with that because it was like the third time in that was someone that i ended up being with for like eight to 10 years. Wow. So it worked out in my favor, but now I don't, that's, that's not my choice of, so do you find it easy to meet women in kind of real life? I mean, I assume after the show it's probably also easier. Well, and as your approach, I mean, has your approach, I guess you had your kind of pre the show

and then post show, do you feel like your approach to dating is different as a result to the show and kind of what is that now? these guys are getting a lot of action oh for sure I mean the women are coming out of the woodwork it's just as guys they're sliding into your DMs right it's very flattering it's very flattering

but I become more selective I become more confident in my own skin saying I don't want I don't need I'm not looking and so you know these that's just not going to work so you're discerning yeah very much so very much so

how about you guys regarding what regarding afterwards you know what I'm saying yeah you know it has been the interesting phenomenon since you know after the show because you know I didn't realize it would I would be recognized as much as I am even you know if you go to Vegas I'm just was kind of just blown away like how many people stopped me didn't realize how popular the show was and how many people really tune in and they they really you know different different guys they resonated with their character, not the characters, but their personality.

But love is such a universal theme, right? So it just appeals to so many, everybody, basically. It is. And so, yeah, I mean, you know, people, you know, I have been approached, you know, more than once, less than a thousand times. I don't know, somewhere around there. But it's, you know, a lot of times, you know, you have to be very careful, especially if they slide into your DM because everybody has a different. Yeah, they maybe they want, you know, just the five minutes of fame or whatever it is like that okay so what's the best story you've had thus far uh he does have a good one he's got at least one good one come on you've been on national television you got to tell us oh yeah yes yeah um yes i did uh i did meet somebody who you know

just kind of reached out and oftentimes you get these messages and it's almost like fan mail they just and they're so supportive. I've not received one negative message from anyone. It's overwhelming, actually, the number of very positive comments. Are they writing from prison? I don't know that. Oh, my God. But I can tell you.

And I'll finish that up. Going back, you know, yes, I have been catfished. Have you? Oh, several times. Interesting. Yeah. Wow. So have you guys dated kind of anyone?

specific since the show? Like, have you formed a connection with anybody? Can I go back? One thing I do want to say about dating younger, I have a 25-year-old daughter, and she and I are very close. And she goes, Dad, if you ever date anyone close to my age, I'm bringing a 65-year-old man home. So it's never even fast.

My kids have a strong opinion, too. They said to me, they came home from college, and they said, Mom, we're getting very concerned about your options. I was like, what do you mean? They go, it just seems like it's like the 25-year-old. or, you know, the 80-year-old. And I was like, wow, that sounds pretty grim. Do you have a preference?

They said, the older guy. I said, okay, good to know. Yeah, that's awesome. But I think 10 years is good. I like your 10 years. That's kind of mine as well. I think 10 years, because 10 years can be physical, but it also, like, people can be really an old or a young.

But I think using 10 years is kind of the range. Good benchmark. I just think if you're in love, just let it happen. Oh, look at you. She says the guy it worked out for. Joan's nine months older than I am. Nine months. That doesn't count.

Do you believe in instant connection or do you guys believe more in a slow burn in terms of the longevity or the health of a relationship? Personally speaking, my relationships, the serious ones had been really first impression. Really? Where you just go, like a butterfly. But there's been a lot that you go, hey, I kind of like them and it fizzled out. But with Joan, I can't speak for her, but it was pretty much instant. And what about the concept of like when you feel?

feel a spark. It's almost like a warning signal or like a mirror of your childhood wound. That's you. I don't feel that way. Really? Okay. Or you just have bad decisions. I mean, you know, you like a bad type of person. And I shouldn't say bad, but I've said this on other podcast. My mother had this big thing going, if that significant other person in your life doesn't make your life better, it's the wrong person. Yeah. And it's pretty simple. They need to make your life better. Not that they're all about you, but your life is better because they're in your life. I agree with that. to elevate you like we're really big on people that elevate us instant connection thing is is really

important because I think that there is an attraction that you have to have for them physically and you're feeling something emotionally and the adrenaline that comes from that you say this is someone I want to spend some time with so ultimately yeah and get to know so from that perspective I think it is important to have that initial attraction of wow this i'm feeling something right now it's like an energy yes totally totally yeah you know for me it's it i would say that immediate i i would say that when i've had you know the really intense relationships i know within days my boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's

just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other but I just want her gone. Now, hold up.

Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. My name is Ed. Everyone say,

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Okay, so how do you follow up? So you have, you meet somebody, you have this instant connection and chemistry. And I guess it's kind of interesting talking to you right now because you guys are both being sought after by many, right? So it might not be, we haven't based, I mean, leveled out, right? Not that you're ever going to level out. I'm sure it's just going to be a skyrocket. You have the pick of the litter right now. But at your age and our age, when you meet somebody and you like them right away, like do you come on strong? Do you play games? Do you, you know what I mean? Wait a customary three days before. texting them like what's your approach i i think it's more natural where if i'm feeling the need to

text or call and and vice versa so it's a two-way street and if i'm getting that comes with a our age too yeah yeah yeah the games are done that's for the younger nobody likes somebody who smothers you i mean let's just be honest too right totally some people do and they want somebody i know i've got people in my life that they're my mother and her husband they took a trip for 18 months they were together every day. Oh my gosh. It's amazing. And their lives were just built around each other, but I think that's the exception. Where other people, like Joan and I, we kind of like those three or four days where we're, we have to do our laundry, to not have that pressure. When you get older, it's just, hey, I can do the things I need to do. We talk about that a lot, like not needing the 24-7

kind of day-to-day. But I think it's also different because if you have been single for a while or divorced or, you know, on your own, you get used to your autonomy and your independence. Totally. And then you want somebody, but it's like how. do you incorporate a significant other into your life? And I always have the question for people like, do you see it as a traditional relationship? There, you want to be with somebody, you know, live under the same roof, be with each other all the time versus distance versus a companion that you, you know, kind of have your cake and eat it too. And I don't mean that in any salacious way. I just mean, like, what do you think on that? I think that's why you date and you spend time

with people. Yeah. You know, it comes back to the smother. And some people want contact all the time. Other people don't. And you spend that time with him. You go, this is what I'm comfortable. This is what I like in my life. And you can love somebody, but it's the little things can push you apart. Yeah, totally. You know, and as Chuck mentioned earlier about his mom and her husband that 18-month thing, I think it's generationally that age group was more connected. Our age group is more, I need a couple days every so often to recalibrate. To recalibrate. The younger group is like, We're going to text from a different building. I'm learning the game, so I'm going to play the game.

I'm not going to reach out for three days. I'm not, I can't call them within a certain period of time. So I think generationally it makes a difference at our age, right? That's a good point. Totally. I just think also at our age, like in terms of the spirit of no games, like what happens when you go out with somebody or on a date and you just, to your point, you don't feel it right away? how do you kind of directly say, like, I didn't feel a love connection or, I mean, you're not going to, we're not going to ghost somebody at our age, right?

Check, please. Main course, totally. I'll let you. I'll go last. I'll go last. You know, if I meet somebody and I'm not, you know, feeling the connection right away, I don't prolong it at all. I think it's a disservice to the other person to, you know, if they're developing, you know, emotional attachment to you and you're not to them.

So I usually just say, you know, gosh, and most of the really nice, you know, wonderful people, but you're just not feeling it. So I just, you know, politely say, you know, just exactly that. So you do it face to face. I mean, that takes guts. At this point. Not after one or two dates, though. No, but I mean, at the table.

Oh, oh, I'm saying you do it. One or two dates. And to their face. I, well, at least still on a telephone conversation, if not in their. face. Not, I meant like, is it at the restaurant where you're like, you know. Oh, no, no, no, no. Because you want to like, you know, kind of assimilate everything, you know, think about.

But oftentimes I know within 15 minutes. And you can kind of read the room. I mean, I've been on dates where I can tell maybe they're not into me or I'm not in. I mean, we all can kind of pick up on the cues now, right? Yeah. But I think it's a lot of respect for the other person, too, though, because I don't think you have a right to sit there and go, I don't like you because of this. Right.

And it's, you know, sometimes you can go. ghost them sometimes, you know. And if you get ghosted, there's no interest. But I think treat people the way you want to treat it. I mean, I know it's a simple rule. But then I think it comes back to what obligation do you have? You go out with somebody for a date or two. Are you obligated to say, I don't really like you? Okay, but see, here's my problem. We kind of differ on this. I, we both believe that chivalry is not dead. So we love, like, a true gentleman, open your door. I mean, that's not to go over. I got. But we really like that. But we really like that. But, I feel a little uncomfortable because, of course, I'm flattered and appreciate when people

buy me dinner. But then I kind of feel this obligation sometimes where I'm like, oh, like I can't leave the table, even if I'm not interested, because he just bought me dinner and that's rude. I mean, I don't know. It just gets complicated. That's just dating. I have a question for you two. So let's go talk about paying for dinner. What are your opinions on who should pay for dinner. There's some hesitation here. No, there's not. I mean, look, for me, it's like I'm raising two boys. Yeah. And, you know, this is something we talk about. We believe in chivalry. We're in our 50s. I like when a man, you know, in the beginning has paid for my dinner. I'm happy to treat and do things and do special things. But I don't, I don't know. I believe in chivalry still.

I'm with you 100%. And I'm raising my boys. And I'm raising my boys that way. I can agree more. Yeah, totally. I would not, there's no way I would, for the first day, I would not pay for it. I also think if you, so here's saying, if somebody asks me, if a man asks me out to dinner, you have invited me to dinner. That's right. So I would expect you to pay. But I will tell you, I wouldn't expect I would be appreciative if you paid.

And I would always, when the check came for me, first dinner, would always say, oh, that's so nice. Are you sure? And I definitely like, I would reach to like this. That's cool. You know, so that it's not, that it's not affordable. conclusion. Yeah, that's awesome. And, I mean, but I will tell you, if he did take it and split it, it would just be a note

to me like, okay, again, if we dated subsequent times, or if I said, hey, I'd like to take you, do I mean, for a hike and lunch or whatever, I feel like I invited him and I would pay. So it's, but at the beginning, especially, I like when somebody kind of, and I want to speak for these three guys, even if you offer to pay, we're going to pay. Right. But after a number of dates, it's kind of nice when a lady goes, hey, I'll pick up lunch. Right. Or I'll get the valet.

I like that. Or show up with like a candle or something like that. Like I went away, I was dating somebody and we went away for the weekend. And I showed up with like, I don't know, like a cute Viori hoodie. And he was like so knocked out by it. He's like, wow. And I was like, you're so generous with me. So there's different ways to show appreciation.

What other things? Okay. I like that. Does some people not say thank you? When they don't say thank you, I remember that. And then you go back to where they raise that way or they just don't like you. Yeah. But, you know, you psychoanalyze everything on the day.

Yeah, totally. Okay. Tell us what you like. Like, what's a good date? Like, what are we doing wrong? Yeah. What do you like women to do? I'm on a roll here, but I've got to ask a question.

They're pivoting back to us. Bezos' fiance's dress at the inauguration. I want a woman to look good. Joe always looks good. So sophisticated. She's beautiful. Amazing. And I don't want to say Lauren Sanchez, but to me that was inappropriate.

Yeah. So on a first date, if somebody dresses. a little inappropriate, I'm out. Okay, so you're more sophisticated, not sexy. I mean, I don't mean, but if I understate it. Classic. Classy. Classy.

Yeah. When they look trampy, I'm out. By the way, you're not allowed to use the word classy. My mom said if you, you have to say, what, a class act, you're not allowed. If you use the word classy, it's not. Class act. Class. And the reason I don't let these guys talk.

For every occasion, go on. I was trained that a first date, a first interview, you're probably going to get the best out of the person. And if they're looking. trampier or something like that, it's probably going to go downhill. We can argue that. But that's because when you have a date with a guy, if you have interest, you're putting your A game on.

Okay. Okay. We talk about outfits. So what, I hear what you're saying. But outfits, like, do you like, do you like women to show up? Yeah. Do you like women to show up a little more dressy, casual? Like what?

I think we have x-ray vision. You don't have to put it out there. We can be in a nanosecond. Yeah. We can tell what you look like naked. But it absolutely. Wait, do you know that I had a guy show up? And I said, how do you decide between lunch and dinner?

And he says, if I'm a little unsure about the pictures, I like lunch because it's during the day so I can really see her body when she's walking towards the table. And I was like, right. But a cocktail will make her more attractive. He's had a few cocktails probably. Oh, my gosh. Interesting.

I like the words you use class act. It depends where we're going. We're going to go to the beach to a restaurant or if we're going to go in town, depending on the setting, which makes a big difference. Read the room. But read the room, know the lay the land, and just be class act about how you're representing yourself. Because it's saying something about you as a person, I'm already casting judgment

and passing, you know, my opinions internally. Like, is this going to work? Is this someone that I could take to... Bring home to your kids? Yeah. Is this someone I can take to the baseball game? Is this someone I can bring home to the kids? there's a family event or if we're going to a picnic how is this person going to be in a

in a miniskirt with you know with hooker heels yeah so yeah it's it just depends it just depends thoughts same thing and yeah i'd like them to to dress um appropriately for the occasion yeah and i'd like them to look very stylish i want them to look attractive you know i want i i don't have any trouble if you know you know they they turn people's heads when they walk absolutely but not because of something over the time you don't want to flower absolutely something to something you know like i have a date recently and i had a woman cup and said you were the luckiest guy in this in this restaurant right now because of the person i was with yeah that's nice and you know i mean made me feel really really good like i am i am lucky do you like when women approach you i mean do you like women that

that are more shy and reserved and you make the first move? Or how do you feel when a woman makes the first move? It's an interesting point you make because these days and at this time, it's a lot different. They're coming at you more? Yes, it's amazing. Well, one thing I was going to say that I'm going to piggyback on what guy said is, I love a woman who walks in the room and the furniture leans her way.

Or the heads. Turn. And everyone is like, and I get to see. sit there and say, She's with me. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon.

This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other. I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age.

And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth?

Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced. He said, you are a number, a New York State number, and we own you. Shock incarceration, also known as boot camps, are short-term, highly regimented correctional programs that mimic military basic training. These programs aimed to provide a shock of prison life, emphasizing strict discipline, physical training, hard labor, and rehabilitation programs. Mark had one chance to complete this program and had no idea of the hell awaiting him the next six months. The first night was so overwhelming, and you don't know who's next to you.

And we didn't know what to expect in the morning. Nobody tells you anything. Listen to shock incarceration on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get to. a foot washed up a shoe with some bones in it they had no idea who it was most everything was burned up pretty good from the fire that not a whole lot was salvageable these are the coldest of cold cases but everything is about to change every case that is a cold case that has DNA right now in a backlog will be identified in our lifetime a small lab in Texas is cracking the code on DNA. Using new scientific tools, they're finding clues in evidence

so tiny you might just miss it. He never thought he was going to get caught. And I just looked at my computer screen. I was just like, ah, gotcha. On America's crime lab, we'll learn about victims and survivors. And you'll meet the team behind the scenes at Othrum, the Houston lab that takes on the most hopeless cases to finally solve the unsolvable. to America's Crime Lab on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My name is Ed. Everyone say hello, Ed. Hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer and my mom is a cousin. So, like, it's not like...

What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. Well, 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage.

now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We really did get along. Yeah. There was a little bit just kind of a little different personality, different, you know, issues, but no fights, no catfighting, anything like that.

And it was really great. We called it free group therapy. Aw. I felt that way. Because, you know, we've all had some shit happen in our lives. Yeah. And we'd sit down just as guys and go, man, this happened to me and the other guy. It wasn't one up in you.

It was just, I've been through this. It was fantastic. And with all due respect, we gave each guy the opportunity to finish their story because it was, for me, it was more of a spiritual journey and being comfortable in my own skin. But allowing these guys to get out their stories that we don't usually or often get to talk about what we have buried to allow us to be the men that we are today. So it was really twofold. Like a lot of the show was the actual living in the house and creating these relationships and doing that. And then the other part of it was dating Joan, finding love, and doing that part as well.

Absolutely. Equally important. And that's interesting because I watched the show first. I said, as great as your love story was, and it was amazing and still is, I, the takeaway for me was watching the camaraderie between all of you. It was touching. And to watch guys really let you. down their barriers and share things and their insecurities and their, again, their emotional

baggage or, you know, talking about families and everything. It was, I mean, I'm getting chills as I say it, but I said to Nicky, I said, that was the takeaway for me. And when people were crying when they were leaving the show, it wasn't, I mean, they loved Joan and it connected with Joan, but they were equally as sad to leave each other. I mean, you guys were sad when that thing came to an end. Yeah. I referred to it as a retreat for sexagenarian man and you know it was very interesting and sure these guys will you know attest to this is that um you think you know you're sitting around the pool or you know around the mansion that we would be talking about you know football baseball those kind of things we talked about our lives

we talked about our past history we talked about things we've gone through and we shared we shared with that over and over again and it was you know you would do that on a one-on-one basis you know you do with one on, you know, two other people. And you just be having these incredible conversations. So there was vulnerable moments. Yeah. Totally. It allowed me to, you know, and I journaled the whole thing.

And, you know, for that whole time. And it was, and I go back and look at that. And it was pretty intense. I felt safe telling my story. I felt safe sharing my story with these guys. Have you guys kept in touch? So I was able to be vulnerable. Like friendships have kind of.

Oh, absolutely. A guy and I talk a lot. I said guide code, but it's really grown-up code because we talked about stuff and they didn't show, you know, some of it was picked up on the cameras, but we talked about life-changing stuff from death to bad marriages to we did things right, we did things wrong. I've yet to see one guy betray the other one. Yeah. There's a lot of men's group in L.A. where we live. You know, I have a lot of friends who do it and it's kind of like a safe space and similar to almost what you guys experience. by living in the house. Do you attribute it to the fact that you were all kind of caged animals and had a lot of time together? Or do you know, like, how did it evolve? I go back to casting and luck because I do think there was part of it going, is this person so good?

And part of it will this journey be good for them as well. But again, not one guy's betrayed another guy. And that's phenomenal because all the producers go, you wouldn't believe these young kids that can't fight and everything. And unlike the younger. It's just, we mature. I think it's just different. And under like the, unlike the younger version of the show, you know, the regular, the 20-year-old bachelors, where it's competitive and catfights and this. I mean, you all were rooting for each other when you were going on the dates.

I mean, it's probably the end. And I'd like to just slightly correct. We weren't caged. We were together like a fraternity. So there was this amazing journey initially of getting through the process. And it became a point of, I'm going to prove. that my record is so clean that I'm able to go and do this. And then there was the night, the first night of the Rose ceremony.

And that was the initiation. And once that happened, we were like a fraternity. We were bonded. Would you agree with that? Yes. The thing that I really liked, and there was a lot of fans going, you've got these mature guys and you're putting them in bunk beds and all that, it was fantastic. And there wasn't really one of the, it was a change for one person, but there wasn't

really anybody that complained about and it was what a great. I didn't say that. I mean, you know, he didn't say that. I watched it. I said, I'm saying it. He could speak for himself, but you look at the relationships. Yeah, totally. You know, at night we're sitting there talking in the morning you would talk. I loved actually being in that room with the

vibe of us. Yes. Okay. Jalty exists. Like some of the real emotions that come up as you're all vying for Joan. Like, how did that also kind of come into play? I would say no. Yeah, no. There was not. That's so refreshing to hear. That was not an issue. I don't know how it was, you know, when the women, you know, kind of behind closed doors,

but we didn't really, at least I didn't talk about Joan with other guys very much. We all had to, you know, she was surprised, you know, but we just kind of talked about the experience, you know, and they supported each other. Right, totally. And whatever was happening. So, you know, chalk's gone on and his one-on-one to Disneyland, everybody was like, so happy for, you know. And when he got back, how'd he go? What you guys do?

What did you talk about? Oh, my God. And so it was like, I had two moments of jealousy. I think I should talk about this because I was the final guy. So the big, the reward one-on-one day was the helicopter ride. Yes. And we all knew it was going to happen.

We just didn't know who. And so the guys, and it was Keith on this. And so the producers go, you guys go get out in the pool. We knew something was up. Then we're out there for about 15 minutes. And they go, what is that up in the air? And the helicopter buzzed us twice. And we're sitting there going,

I wanted that day because we knew it was so cool. I remember you. And then I need to be up there. And then Mark, when he got the date with Joan, because last year they took a helicopter to this big yacht and landed on it. Oh, yeah, that's right. And so it said, like, bring your fishing pole or something. So we knew it was offshore.

And Mark comes back to the date. He is just gleaming. I mean, he is. And I go, from the camera, I go, well, tell me about the boat. And he goes, I wasn't on a boat. Oh. And we're all like this. He goes, I was on a yacht.

It's just built. I'm like, oh, man. I wish that was me, so. I didn't have two little moments. I don't think Kelsey, but envy. Because the dates were cool. Yeah. It's not like, you know, he got a one-up.

It's like, man, that would have been fun. But, you know, Disneyland worked out real well for Jonah and I. It gave us a lot of time together. Mm-hmm. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast.

So we'll find that. out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now hold up, isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this

person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not. To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth? Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced. He said, you are a number, a New York state number, and we own you. Shock incarceration.

also known as boot camps are short-term, highly regimented correctional programs that mimic military basic training. These programs aim to provide a shock of prison life, emphasizing strict discipline, physical training, hard labor, and rehabilitation programs. Mark had one chance to complete this program and had no idea of the hell awaiting him the next six months. The first night was so overwhelming, and you don't know who's next to you. And we didn't know what to expect in the morning. Nobody tells you anything. Listen to shock incarceration on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A foot washed up a shoe with some bones in it.

They had no idea who it was. Most everything was burned up pretty good from the fire that not a whole lot was salvageable. These are the coldest of cold cases, but everything is about to change. Every case that is a cold case that has to be. Right now in a backlog will be identified in our lifetime. A small lab in Texas is cracking the code on DNA. Using new scientific tools, they're finding clues in evidence so tiny you might just miss it. He never thought he was going to get caught.

And I just looked at my computer screen. I was just like, ah, gotcha. On America's Crime Lab, we'll learn about victims and survivors. And you'll meet the team behind the scenes at Othrum, the Houston Lab that takes on the most hopeless cases. hopeless cases, to finally solve the unsolvable. Listen to America's Crime Lab on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My name is Ed.

Everyone say, hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer, and my mom is a cousin, so, like, it's not, like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear.

Well, 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack, where he's a show. stand-up comedy and murder take center stage available now listen to wisecrack on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts did you learn any dating tips from the show like from each other as you watched guys you kind of their approach yeah and like somebody else is kind of playbook i for me it wasn't it wasn't it wasn't it was

wasn't like that it was just be you um i can benefit from what you did or what you said or something like that but it was more of uh just enjoy this moment that i have not necessarily i'm going to copy and do what guy did if there's not a woman that hadn't fallen in love with this guy because his i say soulfulness but you're caring he was i'll tell you he was the most caring guy on the show absolutely when somebody was asked to leave, something like this, the consoling. He was helped me in a situation that I had. This was the best guy on the show.

Oh, you do have a warm. I know. That kind of emanates off of you. And he's the best dress you've ever seen. I mean, but then guy, you're all well. We said that last night. Guy was such a good friend. And Kim caught some, you know, for his personality, caught a little bit of heat.

But Guy was there friending Kim. And he was the one that stood up and saying, the song. Yes. Yes. Yes. I give him kudos. And then when you talk to Charles L about his wife, I mean, that was amazing that moment. I don't think you'd see that on the young guy. I think about that one. And it was heartfelt. You saw the change in Charles. Like he needed to hear that. Yeah, I will say that, you know, when I was having the conversation with him, I didn't realize the impact I was having at the time because I've had that conversation with patients for a thousand times, right? as working 35 viewers in the ER, when I watched it after on the show, I was going,

okay, no matter what happens the rest of the show, whether I get another rose or anything, you made an impact. You altered his life. I mean, the opportunity to be able to impact somebody's life like that is so sweet. You have a great bad side manner. I bet you were a very, you know, the way you dealt with patients, I'm sure was really special. You know, one of the things I will say is that, you know, because you were talking about, like, other people's playbook, the way I looked at, and I think everybody else was, you know, probably had the same sentiment. I didn't think it as being a competition. When I was there, what I was trying to find out was, was Joan my person and the my Jones person?

And could we see having, you know, an extended relationship? That's what it wasn't like, well, I need to beat X, Y, and Z. Because it wasn't a competition. It was like, can we develop this connection? I think that's so important. With dating now is I think, you know, I used to spend a lot of time, I don't want to say like trying to sign the guy because I, you know, just wanted to make sure then that I had the choice. And now I sit on a date and as much as I worry less if they're feeling a connection to me, it's more about am I feeling a connection to them. And that matters almost just as much because the rejection piece was super tough for me back in the day.

What about you guys? Rejection. Can I real quick, I need to go back and say something. I did have one other moment of envy and I want you. your whole listening audience to have this. I came in the show and I was working out hard. And I'd lost some weight. I was in pretty good shape. And there were some other guys that were in good shape.

But I thought I was in real good shape until a guy took a shirt off. And then I was like, I'm out. I'm out. I can't compete with that. I mean, the guy was just ripped. Oh, my gosh. And so I did have to say that.

Thank you. Thank you. I know. So did you guys kind of get ready for the show? Like, made sure you were bringing your best version of yourself? Yeah. But then something happens once you get there and they've got all your wonderful foods. Do you cook the food?

I know we're not supposed to ask a bachelor questions. We took their own meals. Yeah, yeah. There was, there was no chef and a, uh, uh, catering or, well, there was catering when we had our, our parties and stuff like that, but there was no, um, you know, it was, it was really humbling with what we had to go through. And it made us more grounded, I think, and helped us to realize. what's really important here are us and not anything else outside of here.

And again, Jackie's role with putting together these men that was just so amazing and the relationships that we now have with us for the rest of our lives and staying in touch with each other. I can't tell you how happy him and I were over the past week. We're going to pebble beach to be able to see each other. again. So it's been fun in that way. I'd say at the mansion, it was it was family. It was like being in a family because we had some some men who were really good at cooking like I don't cook. Yeah, Joan can attest to that. I know that. I know guys, guy. I don't cook either. However,

that reminds me of a zesting story. I know. I didn't do this. I'm all about zesting now, trust me. But I really couldn't do that well. But I knew how to wash and dry this. and put them away. Yeah. And I said, everybody has a role. Yeah, it was my role.

It was my role. I would do this. It really was. You know, you cook, I'll clean the mess up. Yeah. I'm good with that. So it was.

And some guys enjoyed cooking like Mark Anderson. He really enjoyed putting together these meals without hesitation. Um, and that was, that was great. I'm going to tell I was fortunate to meet Mark Anderson. Yeah. That guy is a quality guy.

He's a quality guy. He's the guy. He's the guy if you had a sister. Oh my gosh. You know, You'd want him to date her. He was just solid, great dad. He was really solid during the whole thing.

It's just amazing. When Joan came and said, you're not going to move on to the next thing, we were saying goodbye to him and he whispers in my ear, he goes, invite me to the wedding. Oh. Oh. Yeah. And she was brokenhearted to let him go just because she knew what a just great, solid guy he was, you know, even though there wasn't a connection.

I know better than anyone else other than Joan, just the struggles she had letting people go. And with Guy, you know, and she told me. about that. She goes, I didn't want to take him to that next level because of you. She handled everything. And she goes, you know, and I didn't even know about it until afterwards. Yeah. And she goes, well, and what the story was, and I told Guy this the other day, because we didn't talk about this, is they kind of pit the two people, the two contestants at the end against each other. And she goes, I was not going to do that to Guy. Yeah. Because I'd already, and what they do is you profess your love, you write him a love note and all this stuff. And she goes, it just

wasn't fair to Guy. She was super elegant in the way. She was such. And the way she, handled every situation. Class act. She was so honorable. There you go. She's a class act. She really is. Not class, but class. No, you just can't say classy. My mom says you just can't say classy. Okay. Classy, okay. You just can't say classy. So do you know what? So one of the things that she and I do, and I wonder, because I think a bunch of you are single still. So and you all obviously keep in touch with each other. So a lot of times when we'll go on a date and maybe it's not a fit or vice versa is we will gently recycle the person. Reuse recycle. So we say one woman's trash is another woman's measure. But we need to change that because we did say that once. We can't say one one woman's

trash is enough. It's like because trash sounds like whatever trash. He's not trash. It's just it wasn't a fit. Yeah, good, good. It didn't align. So has that happened because you all know each other so well, like perhaps have you gone out with a woman that perhaps wasn't for you, but you think guy would be a great fit and have you done that? No. So we do that. So I'm actually going out. I'm actually going out with somebody that I went out with.

And then she gave to her sister and the sister didn't connect with him. And now I'm going out with her next week. Oh my God. But I think that's a compliment. I think that's a compliment to him. I mean, that she thinks he's a good enough guy. It's a compliment.

Third time's a charm. Yeah, honey, he's not me. He's, okay, why don't you? Well, darling, he's not. And so, I mean, what a great position to be in as a man. But by the way, wouldn't you be flattered if you were a guy and somebody said, you know, it wasn't a fit. But I think enough of you that I think you should go out with one of my friends. I have a success story in my life.

That's amazing. I grew up with a lady. She's a client. She's a friend of mine. We climbed Kilimanjaro together. Wow. Isn't that on your bucket list? I saw that.

September, but I got, I tore the cartilage in my knee during the show and we need that surgery. So it was all. I'm sorry. But I have it for next year. year so she lived in austin and she on a dating app went out and met somebody and the guy goes you know and you say not for me but he goes i've got a guy that you should meet and it was his best friend they've been married for like 12 years oh wow and i mean just the greatest couple you just never know but what a compliment is going i do it all the time yeah because we all

want something different in our lives it's also that energy is there you know you might be the most fabulous guy and we might sit across the table and not feel an energy and all of a sudden you sit there with her and you're like my god this is my person well some people like smart people you know some people like tall people some people like a type personalities you know it's just there's it's just so different and what we're looking for in our 20s is different than our 30s is different than our 40s like what are you guys looking for now in your 60s I say the C word compatibility you've got to be compatible I hope that's the C word you're using well you're saying well I've said that before somebody's but what's he going to say there's a lot of C words there's a lot of C words you're

So I'm glad you clarified that. It's all still sexual at this age. You've got to be turned on by the person. But the compatibility because you've been in a bad relationship, you've been in a bad relationship, you have, there is almost nothing worse. There's death and all that, but being in a bad relationship where you don't want to be there. I actually, I don't feel like I've had many bad relationships. Why did you get divorced? That's a whole other podcast.

That's a whole other podcast. That's another podcast. You know, I'm going to jump off of your first C, because they had asked. me early on, you know, like, what are you looking for in the relationship? And I actually came up with the five Cs, which I expanded to eight. And it was, it was communication. It was compatibility. It was commitment. It was caring. It was compromise. I also was threw in comedic. I love to laugh. I love to say that. You got to be able to laugh. Oh, my God. That's not negotiable, I think. Yeah. Yeah. And chemistry. You need to add nine. That's chemistry. No, that was, that was

number seven. Yeah. And then number eight, my brother, get a lot of you. very Christ. Got it. Nice. It's a lot. See, really works for a lot of important words in a relationship. But what advice can you give to women in terms of good spots? I mean, this sounds so trite after the conversation we've had, but good spots that maybe

they can meet men or best ways to approach men or position themselves online. And I know that's a broad question, but just like whatever speaks to you. Can I go first? Absolutely. Yeah. Because I just did this on a podcast. is when you're on an elevator, say hi to someone. When you're in the grocery store, just say hi to someone.

You just never know what they're going to say. They could be in the same position where they're looking for someone. And the high is not, you're not being aggressive or anything else. But then there's a lot of guys on the show that have met people. The ladies have DM them and they've reached out. To me, I think it's a compliment for a guy to get somebody that a lady reaches out. And don't be shy and live your life. But there's just people.

My grandmother, after my granddad, she never dated anyone. So to each their own. But if you want to date someone, you've got to open up. And you have to be ready. That's the other thing is don't waste their time if you're not ready. It also doesn't drop out of the sky. Like you have to put effort into meeting somebody. Well, and if you want somebody in shape, go to the gym.

You want religion. You can go to church. A lot of churches have single deals. You know, what's important to you or do a little bit of all of it? You never know. But I think the best thing is to go to your friends and go, hey, I'm ready to date. If you know anybody, your friends, that referral system is incredible. Well, you have to say what we're doing just quickly.

Okay. So I really wanted her to start dating again. And I said, it's time to go on an app. And she was just like, I'm not feeling it. So I said, fine. So I am her Serenaud de Bergerac. I am doing all of her online dating. It is my pictures.

It is my pictures. It is my pictures. I wrote everything. I'm doing all of it. And then I call her, I'd be like, just gave somebody your number. But the problem is that sometimes I answer questions, like, as if it's me. So then she hates coffee.

I love coffee and, you know, I'll say like, oh, what's your coffee? So they invite me to coffee. So she has to go to coffee. But it's been really fun. So you're ordering tea instead. Oh, my. But it's been fun. Yeah.

And the nice thing is it's actually been kind of freeing because you're not attached to the result. I'm not attached. It's nice because I'm not wondering. Oh, is he going to call? He's not going to call because I haven't even engaged with it. Well, let's be semi-intellectual. Interesting.

What do you want? Yeah. Ooh, way to turn it back on us, chalk. I want something a little unconventional. But in terms of personality and person, I want somebody that I admire and look up to and makes me a better person and challenges me to get outside of my comfort zone and become just a more evolved, interesting, and smart person. But I want somebody that's funny, intelligent, confident, and also has their own life and interests. And that ties back into their unconventional. Yeah, I mean, not that I want to do things together, but I am somewhat independent and I have a full life.

And that's not to say that I don't want to integrate lives with somebody, but I really have a family that I'm close to, an extended family and friends. And I would love to integrate that with somebody. But I'm okay if somebody has a lot of their own history as well and like holidays are important to them and it's really important that they are in Massachusetts. It's, do you know what I mean, with their extended family or their grandkids or whatever, or they have a widow, you know, they're widowers and they need to be somewhere. I'm okay if we don't do everything all the time together and we have certain traditions that we maintain separately. She meant divorce for a while.

Oh, what is that? She's used to being on her own. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, that you're okay with it. Yeah, I am. And I think that I have to work on maybe being a little more needy. truly i do i don't i mean needy is an unattractive word but i think that i i give off the air that i don't need somebody i think i can tell that i think that i think that that might be off

putting and it's like i say i want to date but if i'm not making somebody feel like they're adding they're adding so i have to work on that i think yes man i think we we want to be how do i say this Well, just say it. I think we want to feel like we are still the man. We want to still feel like we're adding value in that way. And it's kind of tricky because times have changed such that there is such independence and women who have such great success. And incorporating the two together is very, very important. You're still able to do that. They're still able to do what they want to do and go and grow. And so it's a melting pot, right? It's a kind of. combination of the two and making that work and having respect for what you do and loving you for what you do and getting behind you with what you do and giving you the space to still do that but still feeling like but she still wants to be with me she still needs some of the things that and i'm added it to her life as opposed to just totally the same yeah and that and that's i would say that you you want somebody who enhances your life and you enhance their life yeah

There's a piece that's important for me, which I didn't have in my marriage, which is I need the person to be like my park bench. The person who I can sit next to, just look at the birds, either laughing hysterically or totally comfortable in silence. Somebody who's really my best friend. And if it's not 100% additive, like she was saying, I don't need to be with somebody. I want to be with the right person because I'm okay on my own, right?

and so I'm really looking my kind of catchphrase is my park bench yeah that's well said and we are strong so I think I want somebody who is strong in their own ways that I can maybe not come across so strong so why I like strong woman person I like strong women I do we come across very strong to you no not strong in the in the sense of overpowering not overburntly No, I think this is a wonderful thing. It's very attractive to me to find someone with that kind of drive. Thanks, Gary. It will help me.

Jerry, I feel like we're headed somewhere. That's twice already. Three times a charm, and we're going to keep it going. But I think it's attractive to have a strong woman. Right? I mean, I don't want somebody who's just this little... Dormat. Yeah, dormant and following me.

It's like, where's your life? The military does this. they do a summary after every mission. What went right, what went wrong. Have you done that? Chuck, I feel like we need to have a therapy session after this. I really do. Like, we're here all weekend.

I might have an hour session with you. If Joan will let you, give me some counsel. Objectively, you have to look at it and go, if I do want someone. But it's luck and it's time and it's just, but, you know, why hasn't it worked? And I just got lucky because you could say the same thing to me. And I go, I couldn't put this thing together if I had to. My daughter signed me up for the show. I don't think it was luck.

My daughter did the application. You asked this question earlier, as if she were me. Well, it's like what I do. I'm doing her online dating. But I think nothing is random. I think people come in to our life, whether it's a lesson or a blessing, something to learn, right? So in terms of taking stock of each relationship and what you learn and what you're going to take with you, what was the good, what was the bad, it all kind of builds up to hopefully what becomes your final destination person. And you learn the non-negotiables.

Oh, for sure. I'm big on that. Which are? That's a whole other thing. Podcast number two. Yeah, that's a whole other podcast. But we all have them. Yes, we should.

So we kind of for the last few minutes, we came up with this idea of doing, well, actually Andy Cohen did a Bravo. But we want to do our own game of rapid fire, which is like basically this or that. And we're going to just each of you, you know, kind of throw out a scenario and, you know, you just respond with what the answer. is. Okay. Okay.

You want me start? Yep. Street smart or book smart? Street smart. Night out on the town or quiet night in? Quiet night in. If a woman drinks a bit too much on a first date, endearing or a turnoff?

Run. Turn off. Implants or oh, natural? Ooh, I like them big. Gary? Both. anything good um both phone call or face time face time i don't do face time i hate face time phone call phone call you're young at heart phone call no you know a phone call to begin with but you need to move to a

at least i've just learned this you know i need to have like i actually have face time dates i'll say let's just you know get a glass of line and sit across from each but guy could wake up after 10 hours of sleep he's gonna look pretty that's he needs you know it's just that's how he is and i and i think really cool the face time thing really takes away from the touching the feeling that very intimate moment you need to have with someone it just ruins that just being able to reach out and and see your expressions in person no in person time is good don't get me wrong okay this was a rapid fire people this is a rapid fire does it matter if the person cooks or doesn't cook i like somewhere cooks. I like cooking.

Okay, final one, sending a nude or sending a funny meme. Funny meme. No nudes. Yeah, funny meme. You want them big, but no nudes. No nudes. Funny meme. Okay, guys, you have been amazing. Wait, do you have a rapid fire one for each of us? I don't want to, uh. She doesn't want to do this.

No, I'll do it. Just one. It's fun. Chuck, you got it. Kick it back. Ass or shoulders? Shoulders. Shoulders. Blonde or brunette. Brinette. Brinette. Burnette. No comment.

That was fun. You guys are cuties. So much fun. Thank you for doing this with us. You're very welcome. Can I just say one thing just with these guys? And we had this connection with all of the guys on the show. But I do have to say that we three were roommates along with two other guys, Charles and Michael.

I have to compliment Chalk because he's been so gracious to everybody he's very articulate he speaks really well he is a good therapist and I was on the receiving end of some of those therapy sessions and hopefully vice versa so I want to thank you for the experience Chuck it was absolutely tremendous and Gary knows how I feel about we met the very first night before we went out

And we've been brothers from another mother since that time. I love it. So, it's been all right, guys. Absolutely. So in conclusion, hopefully we gave our listeners a real kind of bird's eye view into the minds of these amazing men, Golden Bachelors, for all things dating in our age as we all look for our chapter two. Thank you so much, guys.

Thanks for having us. Thank you. Thank you. So if you're having a hard time getting back into the dating scene or ready to get back out there but don't know where to start. definitely reach out to us. You can call, you can email, follow us on socials,

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