The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Mommy Meltdowns
Episode Date: December 7, 2022It’s the off season but there’s PLENTY of tea being spilled in Bachelor Nation! Ben and Ashley dive into the relationship details of Victoria Fuller and Greg Grippo… do they seem serious?? ... A fan favorite from Arie’s season is finally engaged! And we discuss the next step for Dean and Caelynn’s relationship… which means Dean better practice changing diapers!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Today, Ashley and I are starting our first official week of off season.
This is kind of a fun time for us.
Yeah, but it's also the shortest off season.
It's the shortest off season.
It's a month.
It's a month.
Oh, I guess it's not a month. The show's starting late this year. It's like mid-January.
Okay. So we have a couple weeks of the off-season. We love the off-season because it's time that I get to catch up with you on this show and get to hear, you know, what's going on in your life. And then also we get to catch up with past, you know, participants that were on the show. And then we get to talk about headlines and really dive into the headlines because it feels like to me, you tell me if I'm wrong, headlines really pick up when the show's not airing.
well because a lot of the times we get headlines during the season that are kind of closely related and maybe we'll get like a new tidbit from a storyline unfolding but during the off season we get to find out what's actually going on with the couples that we just saw form exactly well we've we've done our part in creating some headlines so far since paradise is over with genevieve and johnny some of those interviews
You know, our hope here, Ashley, too, is these interviews, it's hard sometimes not to pick
sides. We don't want to pick sides because there's always, as we said during, especially the
Johnny interview, there's always, you know, multiple sides of the truth. There's my truth, there's
your truth, and then there's the truth. And so it's just sharing, you know, what everybody's story
is and help, you know, hopefully listeners can make that conclusion. But Victoria,
who was with Johnny there in Paradise, has not stopped making headlines.
So we're going to talk about Victoria today.
We're going to talk about some exciting news with some Bachelor Nation engagements.
But before we do, I want to tell you, Ashley, about something I came across just a few weeks ago.
Okay.
So a few weeks ago, I spent time, I think I shared it on here at a pastors conference, like, retreat at the Lost Valley Ranch in Colorado.
It's pastors from all the country come in.
And the whole idea of it is to finish well.
Obviously, nobody listening to this is not aware of the issues that exist sometimes in leadership
within the church and the things that can happen.
And this whole retreat is just to get people together to love on each other, hold them accountable,
have a lot of fun together, and then share what's going on.
At this conference, I met somebody who inspired me.
Okay.
I want to hear why?
Yeah.
He has started an app called Purposity.
And I'm sharing this, not because it's an ad on the podcast, and I necessarily, I wouldn't
want to take their money. But here's what this idea is. I'm just going to encourage all of our
I heart, I'm going to encourage all of our I heart family to go out and check it out. Because here's
the idea of this. School systems and nonprofits can post needs within their community for individual
people. Like, hey, this kid needs his shoes. He needs a gift for the holidays. He's not going to have
food for Christmas. Now, his family can't afford it. And so it's posted on proposity. And then
it's spelled, let me just spell it for everybody. So if they're interested, you can go out
and find it. It's P-U-R-P-O-S-I-T-Y. It's an app. And you can just pay for it. Just go on,
click it, take it off, and it's a tax deductible donation. And then you'll get a little follow-up,
hopefully from the person that you gave it to or the school system or the nonprofit that posted it.
And you can just cross off all these needs off the list. So I think it's an important thing to share
this holiday season because for as fortunate as we are to know that we're going to spend
holidays with family, probably have good drink, good food, good times together. There's a lot of
people out there who will not be experiencing that same thing. And we need to be aware of that.
And this is one way, one small way or one big way that you can help. Here's what I want to do.
Here's my dream for this, Ashley. Proposity has set up the system where you can build a team
so we could actually have like an almost famous team on this app
and we could show how much our team has done
for the communities around us
throughout the year. So we could give updates like hey
the almost famous family has given X amount of money
and done these kind of things for these people. How cool would that be?
I love this idea. I love this idea. I guess multiple
questions. How is it different than GoFund me
and is it can you like
make sure it's legit
because I know with GoFundMe
sometimes you're donating things you're like man
I really hope this story is true
not a money grab
definitely good question
two things
I think the difference
with this app over GoFundMe
is GoFundMe is an incredible thing
right we use it for a lot of this stuff
like Conley's cause
my buddy who with ALS we use GoFundMe for that
this is a lot easier way
to kind of see all the needs they're listed
And so you're not, like, you're not having to see the need and go research it or know the title of the GoFundMe page to find it.
You just see, hey, so-and-so in this area needs new shoes and you can just click and go.
Now, here's the way you know it's verified.
The only people that can post needs are school systems.
Oh.
So, like the administrators.
Oh, love.
And verified nonprofits.
So nonprofits that have gone through a verification process for this app proposity.
And then they can go in.
and post the needs that they see in their communities.
So it's verified.
There's like a verified system.
That's awesome.
So you say it's community based.
So like I can sign up like kind of put my zip code in and then find people in the area that need specific things.
So like say, say I'm having a baby shower.
I get two strollers and I need to give one away.
I can find somebody in the area that needs a stroller.
100%.
That's so amazing.
Oh, I think it's awesome.
And the reason I'm sharing it here is because, you know,
almost famous has been an incredible journey for us.
We talk about it all the time.
You know, we're, what, six or seven years into this thing?
Millions, I mean, tens upon tens of millions of downloads
and people that have listened to the show.
And it's really fun to do.
We love doing it.
But there's always something about this season
where it makes us take a step back because you hear
and you know that you're fortunate to be able to do
what you're going to do during the holiday season.
And I think it would just be awesome throughout the year if almost famous could,
could hold each other accountable, but also celebrate that this listener group is doing
incredible things in their community.
And this app just makes, I guess I'm sharing about this app because it just makes it easy
to track.
Like it's a very easy, like it would all be done for us.
So it's an idea to throw around.
And I would love to ask our listeners if this is something they would be interested in doing
as a family and as a, it's kind of a group of people who love the show, listen to this
show and and also want to do good in their communities. I love that. I have one more question.
Please. Is it up and running now? Very much so. Very much so. Yeah, you can go find it.
We're on the app store. You can go to the website. You can kind of explore it. Is it nationwide?
Nationwide. Okay. And they have some good corporate sponsors too that are, you know,
that are obviously giving big gifts, you know, to this holiday season. So I just think it's cool.
And I got to meet the founder. Yeah. And he was awesome.
Awesome. And he's just, he has a good heart. And I talked to him a couple of times over the last couple of weeks. We're going to try to do some stuff at Generous with him. I want to do some stuff on my own with, with them. Just because I think it's cool. And I think it'd be a great way to do something good. It's so hard to celebrate the good. We don't hear good news. We did during COVID. Remember like, what was it the good news network or the good news station that was blowing up because it was good news and we needed it? Well, why did we stop? Let's start sharing good news again.
and then start trying to help our neighbor out.
I think it'd be cool.
So I love this because I, like, always have boxes of donations,
and I don't, like, love giving it to, like, the donation stores, you know?
Yeah.
Because I'm, like, is it just going to end up, like, on a shelf and just sit there?
And the person who, like, really needs it is not going to be able to find it.
So I like the way that this is, like, specifics.
Definitely.
Yeah.
And hopefully you get a follow-up from the person that you helped out.
Like, hopefully you get that, like, little gift behind the scenes where they say,
thank you.
And you can say, hey, no problem.
Just love doing.
Like, just happy to do it.
Anytime.
It's easy.
It's fun.
Well, think about it.
Thanks for bringing that to our attention.
Yeah, either way, I would love, I just, it's fun sometimes to talk about the really
cool stuff going on around, around the world.
So it was just either way, listeners, go out and check it out.
I think it'd be fun to share with your families.
Your family can create a team.
If you want to create a family team where they're spread out all across the
country. You're like, I want the Shepard family to track what we do throughout the year. Great. Go do it on
this app. Anyways, that's it. Just give the name again. Proposity. So it's P-U-R-P-O-S-I-T-Y.
Yeah, they don't even know I'm doing this. So they're going to be, hopefully they're excited. I hope they
don't mind me doing this. I don't think they will. Sure they like it. Also, another thing to celebrate in the
intro. We have to say that Waylon's mother, my dog's mother, Gracie, daughter of
Elise. Elise is an incredible human who had a really rough year in Denver, moves to Denver,
finds Gracie on the side of a road. Gracie's abused and malnutrition. She gets Gracie
back up to health. Gracie falls in love with Elise. Elise finds out that Gracie has eight
puppies inside of her belly. Waylon is one of them. Very things.
thankful for that. And then a couple months later, finds out that Gracie has cancer and has had cancer
for a while. And so yesterday, 12-5, 2022, Wayland's first birthday, Gracie had her last chemo
treatment. So that's something to celebrate. A big deal they came up and played for a while. It was
really fun. And is she cancer-free? I would imagine. I don't know. I mean, last chemo treatment,
I know the tumor was shrinking and it was working.
Okay. That's good. Obviously.
Yeah, I guess it would have been a very obvious question to ask,
but at the same time, it was like a celebration, so I just assumed.
Yeah.
Kind of assumed?
Yeah.
That's always fun to see.
Okay, I hope so.
Is she young?
How old is she?
She is like two years old.
She was one when she was pregnant.
Oh, just a little pregnant baby.
A baby having babies.
A baby having babies.
and now I have one of those babies
and let me tell you
he is a handful.
He is.
He loves being loved.
Yeah, I remember one time I told you
that dogs were harder than babies
and I was sorely mistaken.
Tell us about it.
I told you about it when,
I said that when he was a newborn
and now I realize that newborns are so easy
comparably.
You know what I mean?
Like all they do is eat and sleep.
and safe.
We also need to catch up a little bit with you
because I saw on your Instagram
My mommy meltdown.
Yeah, you had a mommy meltdown
And I know a lot of people probably could relate with that
But how are you holding up?
How's Jared, how's the family holding up?
We haven't checked in in a while.
Oh my gosh.
It was just like a pile on.
We just couldn't catch up.
We just had so much work on different ends
and we had no quality time
like together as a couple, as a family.
It was like every time we'd be home together, it was like, okay, you watch him so I can do this.
And you watch him so I could do that.
And it just felt like even if we were like hanging together, we just were weighed down by all the things that we needed to do.
And it was always a catch up because, you know, when it's, it's all, it was just always like, it was all we were just always in trying to catch up mode.
Yeah.
And now we've had a nanny.
We've had full-time nanny help pretty much full-time.
It's like 30 hours a week for a couple weeks now.
And oh my gosh, what a game changer.
Do you hear him screaming in the background?
Yeah, yeah, I do.
Those are fun screams.
Most screams are fun.
Okay.
Yeah, so it's just a whole lifestyle change.
But that day that I had the mommy belt down was the day that
we hired with a full-time 30-hour yeah help and it's just been so nice because now
when we're together like at night like just say like last night Jared and I got to watch
the Buccaneers game together uninterrupted decorated Christmas tree had pizza relaxed it was fun
and it was because we didn't have to catch up on things that we weren't able to do when
Dawson was awake because previously it was like if he wasn't napping, we were entertaining him.
Yeah. That's important, right? I mean, the one advice that Jessica and I got from when we got
married was you have to find time for each other and you have to go on date nights and those type of
things. You have to continue to connect because you are the unit, right? You are the foundation of the
family. So mentally, physically, emotionally, are you feeling?
better?
Much better.
I don't know if better is the right word.
Are you feeling like maybe a little more peace or are you still feeling kind of like exhausted?
No, I feel so much.
We feel so much better as of like the past couple weeks.
But for a while, it just felt like we were truly just drowning.
Do you have any advice, Ashley, for people out there who are new parents who maybe cannot get a nanny?
Maybe that isn't an option in their life.
I know.
I know.
You know, we're so blessed to be able to do that.
So many people suggested to me, you know, an in-house daycare where it's like a small
daycare where, you know, there's like six kids and there's more one-on-one attention
and it just feels like a safe, cozy spot for kids of this age.
And let's see.
I mean, I think I would probably tell yourself, if you're, like, out there, you're pregnant
now or you have a one under a year or whatever if you work at home which so many people work
from home post-COVID that like just know that you're still working from home like you're working
and that doesn't and you know just because you don't go to an office doesn't mean that you're
going to be able to watch the kid 24-7 so feel feel fine that you need help
you're working because for me I just felt like oh is it silly that I'm going to need help
while I'm sitting in a room upstairs I thought that anybody would think that I was that was silly
and it's absolutely not especially when you realize how demanding taking care of a child is
yeah but yeah like the solution as far as what to do I mean you had to find help in some way
And maybe it's enough just to say, hey, if you cannot, if you can't get a nanny, if you can't find help, Ashley is in it with you.
She's saying, hey, I'm proud of you. You're doing great. You keep going. We know it's not easy. We know it's exhausting. There's like empathy now that you have, I'm sure, for those people.
so much yeah it's just i know it's kind of cliche but just know you're not alone in this
it's okay to like want your kid and be excited for your kid to go to bed so you can have your
alone time and like eat a meal like a hot meal in peace yeah don't feel guilty about stuff like that
no no i don't know one of my friends who has kids who doesn't celebrate bedtime i know it's like
sad but also not.
One of my best friends just said
my favorite time of the day is like 8 o'clock
when the kids go to sleep, he can crack open a beer
and sit on the couch with his wife and just
like sit and just like be like
I'm in it like I'm here now.
Yeah. Well, Ash,
we have headlines to get to.
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All right, first headline, Bachelor Nations, Victoria Fuller and Greg Grippo are taking a major relationship step after scandal.
This according to EOnline.
So they're moving in together, guys.
goodness gracious i know we're at in Nashville what's going on yeah they're moving to
nashville he's leaving new york city they are meeting each other's families during the
christmas season including a stay in jersey with gregg's family for christmas so this
relationship is is definitely serious it it feels like there's a lot of chemistry between the two
of them. You know, as I mentioned last week, I've gotten to be around Victoria a few times now.
Maddie Pruitt's wedding, obviously in Vegas. I think she's a great time. I think she's really,
really engaging, a very interesting person to be around. Yeah, she's funny. She's very funny.
I did not at all expect that she was in a relationship when I last saw her at Maddie Pruitt's
wedding. But, you know, how do you, how do you even know? It just feels like this.
this relationship, no matter what the back story. And obviously we had Johnny on, got to hear his
side of the story. It feels like this is a very, like, I want to say serious relationship, but also
like one that could work. And we got to be excited about that. Like, they found love, it seems,
or I don't know if they're saying that, but at least they found something good. For sure. Yes,
yes. They found love. No, they truly found love. They talk about when they found when they actually
said the words he asked her to be his girlfriend on Halloween he jokes that it's the most
romantic day of the year and then a couple weeks later um said it was a month later he goes
he told her that he was head over heels in love if you would have like had great grippo in
paradise and say they've never met each other i would have said that is a couple they're very
similar personalities, just from what, you know, you can see and what we know, both very good-looking
people, which I don't know how much that matters, but I think there's, like, physical chemistry
there.
For sure.
And I would have said, yeah, this makes sense.
Like, this relationship makes sense to me.
Well, I just wish that Greg would have done Paradise so that we could have seen it, and
there wouldn't have been all this heartbreak along with it.
Yeah, I agree.
But I bet here, as weird as it is, because it's just how the world works in a year, if they're still together, we will talk about Greg and Victoria like, you know, oh yeah, it's Greg and Victoria.
And we'll kind of forget how this all started.
Oh, 1,000%. I feel like you have an example in mind. Isn't there? Is there?
Um, I mean, I mean, I guess it's not really really, eh, it's like a cable.
Jason situation where it's like yeah very similar yeah yeah very similar
Caitlin Jason with Caitlin with Sean that's a great yeah example actually is yes so not that anyone
was really villainized in that situation as you know I would say that Victoria might there's
like maybe a little villainization there on the finale episode yeah but I do think that people
will move on if they're a serious couple and for a year from now and just be supportive
yeah and they didn't like Caitlin and Jason and Sean that they didn't have to
air it out on a season.
So it was kind of all, you know, from a podcast that Jason and Caitlin did, that they were like,
oh, I'm into you, I'm into you.
And we don't know where the Sean Caitlin really should exist was sitting at that time.
And if it was good or bad or what.
But yeah, you don't think of Caitlin now with Sean.
You think of Caitlin with Jason.
Yeah.
So very similar.
Well, wishing to the best.
They are moving to Nashville like everybody else in the United States.
Nashville is going to be
too overcrowded.
You could have moved to Nashville soon?
I don't know.
Not soon.
Soon is the word there
that would stop me.
But I would be against it.
I like South Nashville.
I like the countryside of Nashville.
But we're really happy in Denver.
Like we have a great place.
Like just we're in the mountains and there's elk around it.
And like I like that.
I talk about all the time.
But it's very relaxing for us.
We enjoy.
I heard all about the elk.
Yes.
Okay, Bachelor Nations, Kindle Long, engaged.
Let's go.
To boyfriend Mitchell.
This is according to Eonline as well.
I mean, could we be more excited for anyone?
No.
Wow.
After last season's Bachelor in Paradise, where she had to watch Joe, who,
despite what she may have said, I think that she still had feelings for it.
and she had to watch
yeah so she had to watch somebody
who she probably still had feelings for
and nevertheless had a very serious relationship with
fall in love with someone
and he just got married to that someone
Serena
and now I think she knows
why it didn't happen between the two of them
and that is because there is a man out there named Mitchell
that is her perfect compliment in life
wow wow wow I saw these two
in real life at wango tango got to interview them and they definitely made it seem like an engagement
was on the horizon they just started dating i think they met in in february
started dating in february i think it was kind of like an instant thing oh no they met a year ago
december um they started dating in february they were the cutest like talk about two people
cut from the same cloth they like had the same brain and it's cute because in her message on
Instagram, her caption, announcing the engagement, she says, I love your brain. I love your
family. And I pretty much love every single thing about you. I'm so incredibly over the moon that we
get to start our epic adventure together in a new country. I've heard love explained to me by my
parents. And I was so scared that I would never experience something so wonderful. But with you,
love is so much better than I could have ever imagined it to be. I feel so lucky. And I can't wait to be
officially a sagely.
Oh, I'm just so thrilled for her.
She had to go through so much like,
like heart wrench last year.
I wonder if we talked to her.
I would just imagine that some of that like heart wrench,
that pain helped her, one, figure out, you know,
what she needed in a partner.
But then two, like if it also encouraged her to put herself out there again.
or if it did the opposite.
I don't know.
But obviously this relationship happens semi-quickly in timeline-wise,
and it is a very healthy, good relationship.
So I wonder if some of the pain also helped lead her to something beautiful.
Oh, I love that.
Yeah, I think it always does.
That's why I always tell people who are going to the thick of it
of being single, not wanting to be single.
I tell them you're going to look back on this and see the beauty and the pain
and it's really weird to think of
but when you're
out of it and you find your person
you're like wow
I survived that
I got like I became a stronger person
because of it and it led me in the direction
that I was supposed to be in
it's just beauty and the pain you know
somebody needs to hear this today
yeah somebody needs to hear that today
it's a big it's a good word
you know what this reminds me of also
the Kindle situation
what
it's kind of a wild
but I just I think she's great
Sydney Latuaco
I love her so much.
She's great.
Obviously, she is engaged.
And I saw on her Instagram that her fiancé's family had invited the two of them to Disney.
And her fiance had gotten sick.
And so he couldn't go, but she was like, I'm still going.
And it just looked like the best time.
And I just think that's like a beautiful when those things happen.
And you enjoy being around your partner's families.
You enjoy like having that relationship with them.
you can have fun with them they accept you they love you they see you as one of theirs like
i just think that's cool i remember hearing from kendall and mitchell on the podcast that i did
at wango tango so you guys if you've listened to that this will be a repeat story but whatever
i don't know if ben heard it so i said like give an example of like your relationship and they
said well we downloaded multiple podcasts and music for a trip that they took a road trip from
L.A. to San Francisco, and they weren't even able to finish one podcast because they kept
stopping to discuss it. And I was like, that is the perfect match for Kendall.
That is the perfect match for Kendall. Yeah, I just, I think it's so awesome. Good for them. We're
celebrating them. We're excited for them. Somebody else we're celebrating. Here's the headline.
Will Bachelor Nations Becca Kufrin and Thomas Jacobs wedding be on TV? This according to E. Online,
This is a shocking headline to me, because it has been done in a long time.
I was going to say, are we even asking people this question anymore?
We don't do it anymore.
We don't do it.
So what do we know about this?
They're not going to get married on TV.
One, because, like, ABC won't do it.
But it would be a nice, fun thing to start doing for Hulu.
The last marriage that I think we saw on TV was Carly and Nevin.
Jean-Tainer?
Carly Nevin.
Carly Nevin?
It's part of a paradise.
Yeah, but the first, like, the only isolated wedding, like a big shebang.
Yeah, that was Jen and Tanner.
Yeah.
So it's been, oh my goodness, eight years in January.
The viewership on that wedding must have not been top-notch because they would have
continued to do it if it was.
No, it wasn't that.
Well, it was part of a special, yes.
It was part of like a Valentine's Day 20th anniversary special.
That's because you were the 20th batch.
and it was like part of that 20th anniversary thing.
I can't believe you're the 20th bachelor.
Isn't there where that the 20 came before you?
Or 19, 18 came before you?
18 men came before you.
Yeah.
In that role?
Okay, but whatever.
So that was the last I felt very honored to be the,
I remember being like very proud of being the 20th bachelor.
I remember like impressive.
It was pretty cool.
It was just kind of like random coincidence.
But I thought like at the time I thought it was like a, like I took a lot
a pride in it. No, I get it. There's like something. It was like very kinglike. It was because it was like
a big celebratory year and you got to be raining during it. Yeah, very keen. We got to go on the
float. The New Year's Day float. Oh, that was cool. My parents and I helped design that
float. That was one of the coolest memories I ever had. And it was also the first time I met Jesse
Palmer was in the elevator during that event. I was in a hot tub on a float for like two hours,
pruny. I remember that. But I thought it was so cool that I was on a float with you. I was like,
oh my God, Ben Higgins. Oh my God. He said so cool. It's so cool. And you are like the president on
the float just like waving. I said up top like high above the, above the floor. You were like in a
beach chair. Yeah. I was I was in a tuxedo and you guys were like in like swimsuits.
Yeah. So silly. But I felt so cool that moment. Not even because we were in the New Year's Day
float but parade but because i was on a float with you who was like definitely a celebrity to me
okay so yeah the jaden tanner one was the last big wedding and the reason that they haven't done it
is because like apparently like is a wash they like make no money from it but they they make
money from it but just enough that it was to put on because like jaden tanner's a wedding was like a
million dollars or something so then they profited like a million dollars and it's just like okay
I was glad to be invited that wedding.
It was a weird wedding because, like, David Spade was there.
Really?
I think.
Or there's, like, a bunch of, like, random celebrities that were there.
Like, Kevin Maloney or the Maloney guy and, like, those people.
All I saw was Jared.
That's the only person I saw.
Were you guys together at that wedding?
No.
They tried to make, like, a storyline out of it because I was like, guess what?
Jared and I made out, like, a couple weeks ago.
and they're like, what?
They're like, let's put, let's confront this
during Jaden Tanner's wedding.
Oh, I could see Jared loving that.
Oh, I guess I was so embarrassed.
Of course, I just told a friend in confidence
and it became the whole thing.
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Ashley
This is the headline
That has been all over the place
Rightfully so
Just a massive massive
I don't know what you want to call it
Air
A massive mistake
I don't think it was a
I mean
Of course it was a mistake
mistake, but was it an accident?
No.
No, it's just bad.
It's bad at every angle.
And Bachelor Nations, Ari and Lauren Lyingdike, set Balenciaga shoes on fire.
We're talking about the Balenciaga conversation.
That is one that obviously is a whole big topic, but obviously a very expensive brand.
And so Ari and Lauren light their shoes on fire.
yeah i i don't own any bolognaga is very fancy stuff but it's also very disgusting stuff now as
this brand has put out um i guess it was like an ad campaign basically what would you say um
is like child it was like basically like alluding to like child pornography if you're not
familiar with the controversy right now
Yeah, that's exactly what I would say is this ad was not only highlighting it, but it was associating the brand with child pornography. They're using children in their ad in terrible ways. And so the reaction has been warranted. The reaction has been fair, like where people are saying buy Belenciaga is kind of what Lauren says.
yeah i don't i there's so much to this i want to discuss we we've been talking about my friend group
like how does this oversight happen what did they think they were going to get with this i don't know
what they were like what it's terrible how is it disgusting it's the weirdest thing okay you're
telling me that there are so many people on set of this photo shoot right the photographer the set
designers all this they're all okay with this nobody stepped in and said what the
fuck yeah i don't know i that's what i'm there's so much confusion here on how a big brand like
this allows this to happen how it happens and then what they were thinking would come from it
i don't get it also been like it's so bad yeah it's been there's been stuff in their past too
like if you go and look at some of their ad campaigns or like runway shows
there's like a baby covered in what looks like a blood-like material.
So it's kind of like etched in their history a bit.
And I just don't get the fact that there's just a huge group of people that obviously have no morals and ethics.
Yeah.
Well, it's good on Ari and Lauren for doing that.
I know it's an expensive brand.
I know that wasn't just like, you know, lighten my random flip-lops on fire.
That's a big deal.
adventures on fire.
Yeah, yeah.
It's a big deal.
And, yeah.
So just a conversation to have amongst your friends, probably outside of this podcast, would be, like, when the world happened, how did it, like, make you feel?
And then how disgusting is that?
It's just weird.
There's, like, a lot of stuff that I don't even understand as part of, like, because obviously, like, I shouldn't even understand.
But there's, like, even, like, darker, like, references in there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I read that.
I'm like, I don't know what that's referring to, but I guess that, yeah.
People do, and they're pointing it out and just, yeah, I don't know.
Is it the parents of the kids?
Yeah, there's so many questions.
Okay, anyway, yeah.
We have any more headlines?
Yeah, Bachelor in Paradise's Dean Ungler and Kaylin Miller Keyes explain why they're hot and cold about having kids.
This is according to Yahoo.
So basically every time like Kaelin references having kids down the road, Dean will be like, I'm not sure.
And then like if he's, then he like changes his mind and he's on board and he'll be like, hey, when we have kids one day, blah, blah, blah.
She'll be like, ah, I'm not sure.
So basically they're saying kids is a conversation that they'll have in the future, not any time soon.
She is only 27.
He's 31.
They have plenty time.
So we're not sure about when that's going to happen.
But we do know that their wedding,
they're trying to plan for next fall.
And Kaelin is in the midst of wedding planning mode.
She says that she feels like she should have been a wedding planner.
So she's having a lot of passion when it comes to all this.
Dean was also texting Jared and talking on help by second dating about like the cost of weddings
and how outrageous they are and how absolutely mind-boggled he is.
by finding out some of these numbers.
Oh, it's wild.
I was the same way.
I was always confused.
Yeah, so crazy.
And finally, they talk about loving to go,
loving visiting Playa Escondita
where Bachelor in Paradise is filmed
because it's a place that their love story started.
So they always want to go and visit.
And he jokes in classic Dean style.
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I'll go right back to the beach.
I mean, as much I'd love to see Dean back in paradise,
I think this couple is made for each other.
I don't think there's any dumping going on anytime soon.
No, it's so, it's so crazy how far Dean has come.
Oh, what a man he is.
Ashley, that's all we have for today.
We're going to be back next week with another very special episode.
you've been working really hard
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Oh yeah.
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