The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - New Parents

Episode Date: January 25, 2022

Ashley opens up about her anxiety as her delivery date grows near. Ben (kind of) knows what she’s going through, because he’s a new dad himself! We hear Ben and Ashley’s theory about Susie on this week’s episode of Clayton’s season. And find out why Shanae has something we’ve NEVER seen before on The Bachelor… and it’s not a good thing! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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but also our wonderful Ashley, Ikenetti. Ashley, what's going on? Oh, hi, Ben. I don't know. Not much for me right now. Just waiting. for this kid to come out, but also very terrified, not looking forward to it. Have you been getting nervous? I want my body back, but I also don't want to go through

what's about to happen to me. I mean, talk about terrifying, okay, right? But so many people have done it. You're a strong human. You're going to do great. I don't know. I'm like, really not. You're a strong human. But are you starting to get nervous?

Yes, I'm very nervous. I'm not starting to get nervous. Like, I have been nervous. A couple of months, like a month ago, I was just nervous about like parenthood and adjustment. And now I'm just straight up nervous about labor. And I'm not worried about parenthood at all. You're going to be a great mom.

You're going to do great. I have full confidence. You're becoming a parent today too. I'm actually missing. So I don't know if anybody out there has ever had this happen. But last night, I flew in from that golf tournament in Orlando. And I had a ton of stuff to do in the.

afternoon because I've been gone for four days and I got home and my cell phone reception was completely out and my Wi-Fi was out like nothing was working and so I just had to like no call no show every meeting I had until I found data about 20 miles from my house and I could text and email people and that's what I did for an hour and a half last night so we rescheduled the podcast for this time today so we get out which is why you guys heard from Peter and Dustin in it yesterday. I did that solo. Yeah. And now I'm missing picking up Waylon because we're doing the podcast now. So it's like isn't exactly the most fun thing ever. So Jess went down to pick him up. He'll come up and hang out with us here this afternoon. I'm nervous about that. I had a dream last night

that doesn't like me. And I don't know. We'll see. You met him before though. I don't know. I don't know if he liked me. I didn't exactly ask him. I got nervous. But he is on his way. Jessica has I've ordered so much puppy stuff. Our house is covered in puppy things right now. It is absolutely wild what a puppy needs or what she thinks that puppy will want as an eight-week-old. But she is, he has a temporepetic bed. I mean, the bed is more comfy than the bed I sleep on. Nice.

Ben, listen, a little tip from somebody who does know how to puppy parent, you will be overwhelmed and maybe even annoyed and kind of like maybe regretful or at least like questioning your decision for a little bit. Yeah. Um, maybe like three to six months. Oh, crap. Because like they're, when they're peeing everywhere, like, Lois would pee on our bed. Like, that was what was annoying.

Because then you'd have to change the sheets all the time and like, you just don't know how to break the habit. Are you guys going to be strict? Like, do you feel like you're going to like properly. train we didn't properly train yeah we have a plan so i'm actually leaving um for this podcast going up to san francisco for a few days um for the AT&T we're going to do a podcast from there i'm going to be gone for about a week and a half now jessica will be here with the puppy and she's going to start working with him she's very excited about this and we plan this ahead of time and then in march we're actually going to israel and so we're going to send him to puppy school for the two

weeks we're in Israel, we've been advised by that. Oh, okay. And so we'll get him trained in. Like, he's just going to have, like, the intensive two-week training with somebody that we trust and know. So we're hoping that helps. We also have a bell tied to all of our doors now that I did not understand. And I guess she hopes he hits the bell when he needs to go to the bathroom. Do you have a fence in backyard? No, we have an electric fence that doesn't work. So we're just going to, like, act like it works. And I don't know. It's a while. Are you sure that's a good idea? Do you guys have coyotes around there uh we do he's going to be a big dog i'm not ever going to let him go out alone there's bear and a mountain line i'll always be out with him i'll walk him a lot we'll make sure this

dog is as safe as safe can be well hey ashley lastly where'd you get the name waylon from waylon jennings i love waylin jennings i want to name our kid wailin she said you can name the dog waylin i said okay that's just like you know that blake sheldon song you named the kids and i'll name the dogs yeah yeah it's kind of what's going on so it's kind of what's going on with us too yeah oh wait i don't know who wayland jen kings is ashley we have a huge podcast in front of us breaking down this week's episode of um clayton season of the bachelor i'm interested to hear your thoughts and how you uh made it through this episode i felt like it was a lot of back and forth i felt like um i've enjoyed every episode i guess there's only been two and this is

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I think it was both. I mean, I wasn't totally asleep, but it was that kind of asleep where you're like, okay, I'm just going to watch this with my eyes close. Do you know what I mean? And you're like try to listen, but then you're in and out. Do you feel like you missed anything? It was slow. Yeah, it was slow. It was.

But it doesn't take away from us breaking it down. We did start this episode with kind of the cliffhanger drawing. of episode two, which feels like it was a month ago, but it was really only two weeks ago. We have the Cassidy and Cheney thing going on. We have women now starting to speak out and tell Clayton about the drama going on in the house. Ashley, kick us off, start us off. We begin this episode with the cocktail party. Yeah, so we leave off, of course, not knowing whether Cassidy is going to get her rose taken away.

they have two conversations both which Cassidy was like I'm not going I am not invested in this thing at home yeah she denies seeing someone at home so she hasn't had a relationship since 2019 and she hasn't talked to a guy in a long time but then she also kind of admits that there's like a friend that she has at home um that she's slept with a few times over the past few months, but that she's already falling into something with Clayton. Again, I really do truly believe her in when she says that it's just like a friends with benefit situation. It was like maybe a situation at home that she was like sort of hopeful about, but like it wasn't going in her direction. You know that we debated this with Connor two weeks ago. And I still kind of feel like there's a lot of people in that position when they go on

the show. Like, you know, there's always like somebody and everybody's. head, right? I mean, when you're in your 20s and you're single, I feel like there's always someone you're like wondering if it might work out with. The only thing that was interesting was that Sierra did say something like there's a guy back, because she was the tattletale in the situation, the one who told Clayton about Cassidy having a guy at home. And she said something along the lines of, um, there's a guy at home like waiting for her. or like that she that she really likes that she's hoping it's going to work out with

or like going on the show is going to like make him jealous type situation and I can also believe that that's a different situation I mean I think if we look at this thing let's be honest you're in your 20s you're single you're dating yeah you're not going to stop dating because you're going on this show if you meet somebody and you're super into them while also at the same time you believe you're still going to go on the bachelor, I think the right thing to do would just say, hey, I'm not going to go on this bachelor show because I've met somebody I'm into and interested in. That's happened many times before also, but. Yeah, but that's like when the other person is down to commit.

If you're dating and you're not into this person and they're just a friends with benefits or whatever you want to call it, if you're just casually hanging out with them and you're like, this isn't my husband or this isn't my wife, this isn't my partner. Then I'd say a lot of people in that situation, it is completely fair for you to go on the show, even if you went on a date two weeks before you want on the show, because you have no clue where this show is going to speak out. Now, the difference here is she meets Clayton. If she's really into him now, she's cutting this guy off in her mind and she's moving forward, go for it. I think also, though, that different thing going on, the other side, different scenario is if in her head, she's

He's like, I'm just going to go back home to this guy. I'm going to be here as long as I possibly can. I don't think Clayton and I are going to get married. And so this guy's going to be at home waiting for me. And he's going to be really jealous because now I'm going to have all this attention from going on the show. I think that would be a problem, which I think probably Clayton is trying to figure out if she sees this as a game. Yeah, yeah. Or if she actually sees this as something she's really into because it's hard to tell right now.

Very well put. and I think he just didn't want to risk it, and he sent her home. Yeah. Well. And it wasn't like super dramatic. It wasn't. She handled it relatively. Yeah.

I mean, it wasn't super dramatic. I think her Instagram stories are obviously a lot more dramatic. Yeah. A lot more dramatic. We talked about those last week where she kind of came out, called out Clayton, you know, called out some of the other ladies. And that seems more dramatic than what happened on the show. But Cassidy's gone.

Rose was pulled. hold. So it leads us down to the rose ceremony. Ashley, any shockers here for you? Anything right now that some women that, I mean, here's the problem with this season, with taking the week off. I felt like I was just starting to get to know a little bit of them. And then I take, you know, two weeks off of the show. And I forget all their names. And I forget a lot of the connections. But some of the, most of the favorites, the ones that like have stood out to me are still there. Yeah. Kate, Tessa, and NC go home. Yeah. I can't, I can't at all come up with their faces in my head. Of course, they wait till the very end for Chenet and for Elizabeth to get their

roses. And they're the villain. Not the villains. They're the enemies right now. But they both, they both get roses and Shane, Shane, is like, I'm here to win. There are parts of Chenet during this episode that I kind of vibed with. I was like, I get you. Yeah. But she is, quite failing this she's actually she's uh got a mean streak we haven't seen in a while i feel like i mean i don't want to say i was right but when the season started i said i think this this person week one i said she's got a little bit more to uncover uh than we've seen yet and i believe it's still yet to be fully seen and we're going to see it more as the season goes on we saw a little bit of it this episode but um after the rose ceremony the the episode this new episode really kicks

off with a group date. A lot of the ladies at this point are confused. They think the drama is getting in the way. I don't know if they've never seen this show before, but the first couple of weeks are usually full of drama. It usually is getting in the way. You just got to rise above it, but they're tired

at this point. They're a little exhaust, a little traumatized, I think was the word that they would say. So here's the group date. Susie reads it. Serena, Susie. Eliza, Mara, Marlina, Hunter, Genevieve, and Jill are going on this date. Group date card says, I see you love Clayton.

Yes. So this is one of those group dates that they're seemingly incorporating into every season now, where it's kind of like a therapy group session. This one is led by Caitlin Bristow. And basically she starts out by saying, like, stand up. you if there's part of yourself that you're not proud of and then or that you would like to change or something along those lines and everybody stands up and the the kind of the common thread the common theme in all these stories is how people changed in relationships for other

people or they behaved in their past relationships in ways that they didn't that they weren't proud of and it's just one of those like really getting to know you things and it's very emotional and at the end clayton reveals that he um has a lot of insecurities with his body which is you know after talking to ben smith a few weeks ago it seems like a common theme for both the men and women um these are great dates uh and we've said it before when nick hosted this one with, was it Katie's season, he hosted this date? And they're incredible dates because I do think they feel like an actual date. You're getting to know somebody.

You're getting to hear from somebody. You're also allowing the space to help somebody maybe heal a little bit or to get some frustrations out there in a safe environment, right? You know, we hear some women talk about their insecurities. We also hear obviously some of the. topics that we know the show needed to be talking about, um, racism,

what it's like to be somebody of color, um, what it's like to have past relationships that are unhealthy. These are all topics that really, um, for a viewer and I hope for the contestants, I would just try to put myself in their shoes. I,

I would think these are really good dates to be on. Now, uh, it's kind of weird this episode because we go from this date to have a, Baywatch date. So I think one group really, you know, the, the weight shifted to a complete opposite thing. But Caitlin did a great job hosting this. It was good to see her on our televisions. We've gotten to see a lot of her on her televisions. But I enjoy these dates. I will say that. I am not against instead of, you know, the wedding dress date and the wedding photo date.

Like this maybe replaces it and is the constant date that happens every season. I'm all for it all for it gets us to know them more and it gets of course all of them to get to get to get to each other more uh the group time the group time portion the you know the cocktail portion of the state the standout moments i feel like are with serene who talks about how she just feels so comfortable with him right off the bat um and he says pretty much the same thing about her she talks about how um her family is not emotional so like dates like this are kind of like a shock to the system yeah um but he says that he feels like they have a strong connection then there's susy who i still feel especially after watching this scene he's so much more into her than she's into him

i agree i the more i watch their interaction like i feel like she's going to keep getting rose after rose all the validation and then she's going to be that girl like top four who runs away and he's going to be devastated because I think his plan is to pick her I have a theory after this date especially it's not far off yours she won't be the only one that runs away this season I have a feeling his last six it's going to be hard for him to keep all of them there wait why do you think that because I just get to sense that like a few of these women are really into Clayton uh right now and it makes sense and seems great um but with watching the teasers seeing some of the stuff he says seeing how emotionally is I have a feeling that like even if they're into him at some point they go

yeah I'm not I just can't continue this like I can't leave this in an engagement so I'm just going to take myself out of it and he's going to be like oh crap like I messed up this is just my theory but we'll watch it as the season goes on yeah the group date you know the group date portion of this with Clayton or with Caitlin leading it almost felt like a cocktail party right

they're talking they're conversing amongst each other they're all in the same circle in the same group so you know the cocktail party itself was just a good add on to that I feel like they got closer some of these relationships did build we got to see a little bit but let's move on to the one on one this week. Sarah gets the invite to the one-on-one, and we see a familiar face, Becca Kufrin,

kind of hosting the date or showing up for the date. Yeah, so they have to do a whole bunch of embarrassing things, like run around L.A. in their underwear, which like Sarah feels is super weird. And like, yeah, I get it. I had to drive a tractor in downtown L.A. in my bikini. I think that was like a little more demoralizing because the underwear that they gave them, looks like a like an Olympic swimming suit

it's not like it's pretty covering yeah it's not that embarrassing it's like a sports bra in my opinion honestly no big deal here he's the one that does have to run around to boxers which can be a little weird um they have to do they have to sing about each other's

about their feelings for each other on a mic in the middle of the park like it's awkward but of course they're getting out of their comfort zone right um I just like don't feel this at all. Is that horrible? I just don't feel their chemistry. I do later on at the dinner portion. Like I get it way more, but not during this date. The day day. Maybe it's just the awkwardness. It is a, you know, it is one of Clayton's first one-on-ones. And so it's hard to know how to navigate it. And you're doing a bunch of like ridiculous things together. Yeah, I would

agree with you i mean the dinner portion did seem to like connect them a little bit more i get why she talks she talks about her being uh adopted and she actually felt like she didn't like belong and she just she had a lot of um like emotional issues because she was given up yeah from her biological parents and it also for her parents she like you know she looks different from them she has totally different ethnic background um but of course she loves her adopted family but she said like it took her a while to realize like all the love there yeah makes sense and it does and like you know like i said those are those are the those are the moments during this episode that i enjoy because ultimately the drama back home we'll get into that in a second because shrimp gate was

kind of happening throughout this thing as well. That's right. But, you know, the drama is always entertaining up to a point. Sure. But the connection and hearing these people's stories are the things that will, I think, kind of grasp onto and hold on to and understand as they continue to try to build their relationship. And to see how Clayton responds to those type of things is really important.

Is he going to be there for them? And is he going to continue to reinforce, like, his support of them, even within their insecurities? And, and, but yeah, let's skip then to during this whole thing, Shrimp Gate's going on. Oh my gosh. It's, uh, it's a little bit wacky. It's a little bit. I don't need to hear the word shrimp ever again. It was a lot.

Shrimp, shrimp, shrimp, shrimp, shrimp, shrimp, shrimp, shrimp, shrimp. It's a lot. So basically, guys, I mean, you, you saw the episode. You know what happens. Elizabeth. make some shrimp not a ton you know maybe like 20 pieces or something and cheney her arch enemy um decides that she's going to go take like like 50% of the shrimp because she calls out for everybody to help themselves and she certainly helps themselves so helps herself

and it doesn't go over very well of course there's tension from it but Chenet also doesn't eat them all for herself she does go around and like offer them and she of course makes it the biggest deal because during this offering Elizabeth doesn't acknowledge the kindness she won't look at her and it's just all ridiculous and this is where the drama that I normally like I was talking to Peter yesterday like yeah I do enjoy drama it's fun I think that like the second episode was full of like actually interesting drama but this stuff is so silly and this doesn't keep me captivated no i wouldn't know what the producers are doing at this point like they're sitting back to like

this is awesome this is going to be so good she's going to take some shrimp and it's going to be a big deal and then we're going to make everybody talk about it for a long portion of this episode and totally distract from anything else going on. I, uh, you know, I, I don't even know how to respond to this, Ashley, because I feel like as a viewer, I was watching this being like both of these people should not make a big deal about it. Elizabeth made shrimp. She offered it up. Like, oh, you know, whatever. That's great. We had a lot of people when we were in the house cooking food for other people. They loved cooking

or they knew how to cook and they would cook and offer it up to the masses to enjoy. Now, Elizabeth did that and Sheney took it. Now, should have Sheney taken the shrimp

from the person that she's in, you know, disagreements with. No, I don't think I was smart. I think she knew a little bit

that it was going to cause drama. Definitely being antagonistic, yeah. But at the same time, Elizabeth could have just shaking it off, made a little more shrimp. she's not paying for the shrimp the show's paying for the shrimp she could have passed the shrimp off

made a little bit more said hey i'm just not going to get in the weeds on this but i think at this point we're kind of in the the the cyclone of issue right now like where they're arguing yeah so this thing was a mess um absolutely a mess so weird but it's not going to stop We're in the cyclone of drama right now. I think drama, everything is going to be a little sensitive. And I think that's what we saw here. Well, Ashley, we have one more group date to get to in this podcast. At this point, you're pretty close to falling asleep.

Actually, I stayed up through the actual Baywatch part of it. Okay. You know, when it comes to the kitsy dates like this, I actually kind of enjoyed it. because i don't know i guess like you have all the girls in the same outfit yeah they're they're participating in the same competition and we've got to figure out which ones as the best i mean the slow mo running was kind of fun i actually think that cheney i mean like she made a a move her move like it worked she was hot

I think he was into it then there was Gabby who showed off her goofy side and who else like kind of said like you know what's weird is we haven't seen a lot of Teddy Teddy's on this date such a like just a standout

on night one and we haven't really seen her make a dent thus far but I don't think that means anything I think she's going to be around for quite some time I kind of thought this date was a fun watch easy-brazy yeah it wasn't bad like i didn't hate it um we saw a lot of it in the teasers and the promos i didn't know what they were going to do with it but it was like a

funny date it was goofy it was good um not a lot for me came from it like i didn't take a lot of it um but it was it was good it was it was what it is now we do however and i believe i'm in the right section of this show i it's kind of a blur right now but we have the Sheney and Elizabeth issue kind of popping up again. And Sheney's making comments about her ADHD, which is just inappropriate. It's not okay. It's not right.

This is what I can't deal with with Sheney. I think this is ridiculous when she keeps bringing this up. Okay, when I said earlier in the episode that there was parts where I was like, I feel this girl. It was when they got the date card and it was like

we're going to the beach and all the girls were like, we're going to the beach like as if somebody told them that they were going to like the south of france yeah and then she was like i hate these girls and i'm like i love that that's hilarious but besides that that no she's been pretty awful yeah no i mean that that part is is okay you know it's it's a funny moment but this ADHD thing ADHD stuff needs a stop it's not okay it's using somebody's um insecurities, mental health,

against them. And Shanae has no backing for anything she's saying. She has no clue what's going on. And it's just, and it's not fun to watch. Like, I just don't enjoy it.

I don't enjoy, I mean, this is bullying 101, right? I mean, when you take somebody's, you know, vulnerabilities of opening up to you and using it against them, like, that's wrong.

It's not, it's not okay. If you open up to me, me, Ashley, and you're like, I'm really nervous about having this child. And that's a big deal to say. Like, not every new mom would say that. That's a big deal. And I said, at some point, I would use that against you in a mean way, you know? That would hurt you deeply. And you can't defend yourself because that was something you opened up about. And so you can't even like, like, the only thing you can stand up for yourself against is like saying like, yeah, that's who I am. That's what it's going on in me.

And that's just not fun for me to watch. I want it to stop. It needs to stop. And it feels like most of the viewership is calling for it to stop. Like, hey, can we just, like, get over this? And can Chenet at least admit that she was wrong? And I don't know if we're ever going to get there. Well, yeah.

The thing about this whole drama is that she's like hates Elizabeth. And we have no freaking idea why. She just picked somebody random in the house. house to make fun of to put hatred toward and that is like pretty much definition bullying right yeah and we see the women getting sick of this drama it feels like some of the only drama that's kind of like surfacing right now the women are getting sick of it i hope it ends soon we always say this about week four or five hopefully it starts the end and the drama more comes up with like emotion of how much like clayton and less about each other but that's where the episode

ends that's what we have to look forward to for next week it's the cliffhanger of what's going to go on what's going to happen that's this week's episode actually fell asleep during it i was very impartial to it i thought there was good moments i thought there was okay moments i thought for the most part this is the weakest episode we've seen by far this season uh i'm hoping next week picks it up a bit and i think it will um just wasn't that fun for me other than a few dates like one one maybe katelyn's date i like that and the baywatch date was kind of like entertaining but i was also on my phone texting during it like I'm out so that's this week's episode of the bachelor let's take a break here when we come back we're to break down bachelor nation headlines

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On this week's headlines, we've got a big one. Jordan Kimball marries Christina Creedon. We have two marriages this week. We do. It's something to celebrate. We have a lot of good headlines this week, which I always like enjoy. But the quote from them was, it was an emotional night. Yes.

So we've seen Jordan Kimball cry before, you know? Yeah. I'm not surprised that he cried seeing his bride. He said, seeing her. for the first time. We didn't do a first look. It was at the end of the aisle in her dress. I started crying. Uh, he said that he for sure thought he would be able to keep it together, though. He said ever since the moment, ever since that moment, I've realized how important she is to me. Um, I mean to cry in front of lifelong friends and family and everything. I never, I never loved

her as much as I do today. The whole day was so calm. I was just so relaxed. And then right before I started walking down with my dad. I literally lost it. I couldn't stop crying. That's so cute. He also says that he was like blindsided by this love and she's just the sweetest person. He can't handle

how sweet, genuine and true her heart is. He feels like a protector. He's here to support her and they will always like have he says we always share different kinds of perspectives but from coming from the bachelor to this. I would

that the bachelor kind of prepared me in a way that I was ready to take this all seriously. So great. We also have this week another wedding that happened before this week, but it's something to celebrate. Derek Path, one of our favorite, Mary's model

saffron. This is according to E. Did you know they're getting married this week? They were married, I think, previously. Oh, really? Were they married at your wedding? I believe they were based on, you know, she lives in London, he lives in the United States. They were trying to figure out

how to make that work. But they announced it this week. And so we can start celebrating this week. So if you haven't, you got to get out there and celebrate them. Oh, that's so awesome. Yeah, they just showed off their wedding rings on Instagram. It said 114, 2021.

2021. Yeah. Yeah, that's when they got, I think that's when they officially got married. No way. Yeah. so it's a it's a big deal they're two incredible people we got to celebrate them they're awesome well on to some sadder news uh we did hear this week that marissa and riley from bachelor paradise

did officially split there's the rumors out there we had kind of talked about it suspected it but it is now official yeah it's sad but we did see the writing on the wall there she deleted all the pictures of him off Instagram a couple weeks ago. He did not, but they haven't posted of each other since mid-December, late December.

It was a mutual statement that came out announcing the split. You know, maybe Ben, we can now get, we can now figure out if she did kiss somebody else on the beaches of paradise.

Not to make light of this very sad situation. It was a historic engagement, too. It was the first two black people to get engaged on the Bachelor franchise. Yeah, we were hoping it worked. But you know what? We can't be upset with them for not working. That just happens. And, you know, we've all had that. You and I both. So another interesting headline, Tasia Adams exits Bachelor Nation podcast clickbait. Tia Booth takes over. I'm actually quite interested by this, but we don't really have a lot of information um tasha hasn't said anything about her exiting these podcasts she did take the podcast names off of her instagram profile um but it was the hosts of clickbait that announced it

uh joe amoblae he said that she is now being replaced by tia uh natasha parker is also still there interested to know why she decided to leave um she was kind of bouncing between Clickbait and Bachelor Happy Hour. She's no longer the host of Clickbait. Well, on the happier news, Raven and Adam welcome their first baby. They said little man made it, is their quote. Okay, how cute is this child? His name is Gates Zed Gotstock.

So great. And Gottschalk. It was funny because Raven was on my other podcast couple months ago. And she was like, I'm just learning kind of how to say my new last name, Gottschuk. So good. This kid is so cute. You have to go check him out on Instagram. I have talked to Raven.

I'm not going to tell her birth story. But damn, guys, she went through the ringer. She is a wonder woman. Yeah. She may or may not talk about it one day. But like, well, that's, all that's important is that she and Baby Gates are doing really well. Yeah. Well, final headline of the week, Clayton is our bachelor right now. He's responding to the TikTok rumors about past relationships and escapades. And his quote is, I never claimed to be a saint. Well, no, you didn't. That's fair. But he is responding to these, which, you know, put some weight behind him. Hey, Ben, do you even know about this? Do you know about this TikTok?

I saw it because I feel like somebody on our text reds sent it to me I sent it to you stupid you said it to me oh well somebody had sent it to me and I think I passed on to you like what the heck's going on so some guy like eating ramen right being like oh I was watching TV and this guy popped up and I noticed him because he was the same guy that was you know hooking up with my girlfriend yeah basically the guy in the TikTok says that he like walked in on his girlfriend and Clayton hooking up I mean we're not saying like Clayton doesn't know he may not have known that this girl was in a relationship or anything we have no backstory to this yeah we we have no details uh I can just tell you that this is what Clayton saying he says

as far as addressing what I've seen online yeah I've seen these TikToks come up lately regarding my past or you know the relationships that I've had in the past listen here's the thing I've never claimed to be a saint per se um or a celibate for the last six years of my single life yeah i was single and i enjoyed that singleness there was a period of my life where yeah i wasn't looking for anything serious and i was just having fun and enjoying the aspect of dating it is what it is so yeah we don't we don't know we don't know what happened there but i mean maybe he did hook up with a girl who had a boyfriend but like also maybe he had no idea that the girl had a boyfriend yeah what like yeah we have no back story of this other than the fact that he's responding to it and typically

if you know you respond to something that like has hit you at some level personally but he is responding to it well that's all the headlines we have for today and that's the podcast this week we'll be back next week breaking down the fourth episode of clayton season of the bachelor will be here doing it ashley and i i'll actually be i think in uh san francisco for this episode uh with the whole i heart team we're going to be doing event at the at t pebble beach pro am i'm not playing in the pro am but i'll be there watching it um and ashley you will be back home who's going with you like any bachelor contestant yeah i think dean will be there wells is going to be there um i believe that's it for right now i don't know i think we're going to have some

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