The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - No No’s…Ho Ho’s…and Woe Woe’s...in the Sleeping Porch

Episode Date: March 14, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Ego Wodup is your host for the 2026 IHart Podcast Awards, live at South by Southwest. Hello, is anybody there? Raised by a single mom, Ego may have a few father-related issues. Are we supposed to talk about your dad?
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Starting point is 00:00:54 And I hope it's not forever, but it's for right now. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Chetty on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You know Roll Doll. He thought up Willie Wonka and the BFG. But did you know he was a spy? In the new podcast, The Secret World of Roll Doll, I'll tell you that story, and much, much more. What? You probably won't believe it either.
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Starting point is 00:02:48 Hi, so this is my sophomore year at University of Michigan. I'm living in at Alpha Phi, and there's this tiny screen den sleeping porch. Usually at a lot of schools, I feel like don't have sleeping porches, but we do, and it was basically five little beds, like, crammed together. And the rule of thumb, like rule number absolutely one, was absolutely no boys allowed. It's strictly for girls, meant for gossip, cheap wine, of course, and while whatever we get up to when everyone's not home, and we come home from a night out and we're sort of drunk. One Friday night, me and my friends, Emma Lila and Sophie, are hanging out, sipping wine. we had just gotten back from going out and we decided to play a game called our past hookups. One of the things that we all love, love to talk about because a lot of us are Eskimo sisters.
Starting point is 00:03:37 So it's just great to reminisce and maybe talk about the things that we all got up to. The rules are simple. We all wrote our name on a little piece of paper of our best hookup, fold it up, folded it up, and put it in a little bowl. Then we all took turns pulling a name and giving like a flip. confession and ridiculous story about that person without saying who wrote it. At the end, it kind of sounds innocent, but after a few glasses of wine, it definitely gets chaotic and super juicy. We're laughing, whispering, and Emma start sharing this wild story about a guy she met at a party
Starting point is 00:04:14 that she ended up having a one-night stand with. And Sophie chimes in with a story about a frat boy who said into her DMs in the middle of class that was a guy everyone was obsessed with and honestly our favorite for us. that everyone's laughing so hard, but we are so scared that we were going to wake up the house mom, which happens a lot and we tended to get into a lot of trouble. When we hear it, a little bit later, we hear this like soft rustling noise near the corner of the porch. We all freeze and whisper like, do you guys hear that? At first we all pretended like we didn't because it was like 3 a.m. at this point and then we started hearing someone talk.
Starting point is 00:04:53 So Emma gets down slowly, creeps towards the corner. and there was this guy that we literally were just talking about. Emma had just pulled this card and it was the exact guy that we were just talking about, which I feel like we always speak people up. Like, anytime I'm talking to anyone and I bring up their name, I feel like I speak them into existence. Anyway, he is crouched behind this chair looking totally panic. We all scream.
Starting point is 00:05:16 We jump onto the beds. We all like knock the wine over because we were like, holy shit. Like, I can't believe that they're here, that he's here. And we're trying to like block him with a blanket. so like no one can see him and like we literally don't like anyone up. He tries to explain like, uh, I thought this was empty, like pretending like he didn't know. And so Emma being the investigator she is says now like, well, now that you're here, you have to play the game with us.
Starting point is 00:05:42 So he sits there awkwardly like all of us in this tiny, tiny little room. And we continue to drink and playing our game and now it's honestly way more intense that he's here. Every story we read or a confession we share gets him blushing like crazy and we're teasing him nonstop. Meanwhile, the porch chaos, Emma's like lying half, half asleep. Everyone's like whispering bright red. And at one point he tries to like grab the blanket and like stay over. By the end of the night he sneaks out and we all like go to sleep trying to catch our breath. And the porch literally reeks of wine and just complete embarrassment the moment we woke up. And like that night like it was
Starting point is 00:06:20 just crazy. And we always talk about it. The hidden boy with the 30 confessions. And it honestly became legendary and a fee and we ended up telling everyone and it was just so funny and honestly unforgettable and i do miss those moments of being in the porch so basically when we lived in our sorority house apparently rumor has it it was built on top of like i don't know like an old nursing facility i don't know but any time that we're we would sleep in the sleeping porch. There were a couple times where I would wake up in the middle of the night and I would be like really, really anxious and sweating and have to leave the room. And it was a sleeping porch. So it was always cold and always quiet and always dark.
Starting point is 00:07:15 And one of my girlfriends slept directly across from me. I don't remember how we chose our beds. I think they were maybe assigned. But anyway, so it was always dark. but directly across from me was one of my girlfriends and we both were dating guys in the same frat and um anyways we would both wake up and like we never really spoke about it until our junior year because we lived in sophomore year and we would just feel this weird presence and it was so uncomfortable like we would leave and we would go sleep on the day beds in our bedroom it was really really nerve-wracking. And luckily, like I said, our boyfriends lived in a fraternity house. And so most nights we would sleep there because the guys had their own bedrooms.
Starting point is 00:08:06 But one night, I think our junior year, we finally like talked about it somehow came up our scary experiences. And we both identically identified this figure of this tall man with like some weird had on with a briefcase in his right arm and looking down. And he was standing right next to her bed, which was right across her mind. So for her, he was right next to her. And then for me, he was looking directly at me. And it was so scary and so terrifying. And we never spoke about it until we had moved out. And yeah. So there were a couple other instances, but it was really, really terrifying and it still stays with me till this day. I loved living in porch. It was so much fun.
Starting point is 00:08:56 As you know, it was like a big part of like our like houses like charm was like that we had this like big room that was like really fun and had like eight girls in it. I think a lot of times like sleeping porches can be kind of like scary because it's like, oh my God, it's a bunch of girls in one room. But like ours was very, you wanted to be in that room and like you wanted to be that like that room that everyone came and like hung out in and everything. Just some funny stories that we had. We had a hoverboard. in our room, which was really fun. And there was, like, a lot of times
Starting point is 00:09:23 where, like, the people below us who, like, were in, like, the study room, like, always had to, like, ask, like, what were we doing? Because we were, like, hoverboarding around, which was, like, funny because we had to, like, explain to them that we were hoverboarding.
Starting point is 00:09:33 Another time, I was on the hoverboard, and I was going to the snack room with my friend Claire. Like, really late at, like, two or three in the morning. And I ended up turning too fast, and I busted through someone else's door. And I was so grateful that she was awake at two in the morning because I literally like literally busted through her door.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Like she was so surprised to see me like fly through on a hoverboard. And so like we always just laugh about that because sweet Maya had like no idea that we like I was going to fly in at two in the morning, let alone anyone that was awake. Some of other like cute fun memories. Like we had like a mega bed like the last night we all got to sleep like in the same room together. It was really fun like getting ready all together. We had like a huge vanity mirror. That was really fun that we all like had all of our like makeup and stuff on the front.
Starting point is 00:10:19 What else? In our room, like, we have things called pinnings, and basically it's like a frat wedding. Like, you get married to your, like, quote-unquote married or pin to your boyfriend. And then when you, like, get pinned, um, usually it's like a senior. They sign their name on our beams, which is really cute. So all the beams are like full of signatures, like from like a really long time ago, which was like so fun to see like all the history. And if you ever get married, like you can come back and circle or sorry, put a horror around it.
Starting point is 00:10:44 So it's really cute because like we'd be all sitting in bed and we'd just be like laughing because we'd like see people's names and like, like, um, with like hearts around it. And it was like, oh, like, you know, like class of 69 or something like that. And so that was always really fun to have. And we all got to like decorate the beams when we were done. We had like a pyramid like Abby Lee Miller's like dance mom. So that was fun. So whenever like one of us did something awesome, they'd be at the top of the pyramid,
Starting point is 00:11:08 whenever one of us like, you know, didn't clean up or I don't know how to a crazy night. They would put it at the bottom. So it was like a fun way for us to just like continue laughing. And we always had like an open door. that was really fun. Like everyone can always come in and like just hang out and like sit, like whether that was like sitting in our hammock or like using the hoverboard
Starting point is 00:11:24 or if it was like getting ready to go out and just like hearing me music and stuff. So that was always really fun. You know Roll Doll, the writer who thought up Willie Wonka, Matilda, and the BFG. But did you know he was also a spy? Was this before he wrote his stories?
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Starting point is 00:16:28 This season, an epic battle of He Said She Said, and the search for accountability in a sea of lies. Listen to Love Trapped on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay. As a sorority girl, I was really shocked to hear the title theme of this episode because I have never heard. of a sleeping porch in my entire life until now. I, for reference, went to a school where the sorority housing was attached to on-campus housing and student housing and all of that. So they were sorority houses and fraternity houses. There was a whole Greek row and they were all together, but they were built uniform like the dorms. And they did have quite a few differences from other schools
Starting point is 00:17:34 that had their sorority houses and their Greek row and all that off campus or just in houses that weren't associated with student housing. So the way that ours was different was A, that we didn't have a sleeping porch. I can't believe I've never heard of that still. But B, we also didn't have a chef or anything like that. So downstairs we had a big living room where we had chapter and everybody would just hang out and all that. We had a kitchen, but it was for girls to use. So anyone who lived in could use the fridge and use all the amenities, but we didn't have a chef. And then we had a smaller boardroom downstairs. That's where exec would do their meetings and where all of the girls who were matching during rush would be on their computers or whatever.
Starting point is 00:18:26 And then the second floor was a bunch of, it was kind of a mix. There were bigger rooms that all the rooms on the second floor were better. A lot of them were singles that only had communal bathrooms with like four different girls. So they were really highly sought after. And the way that you would get one of those was if you were on exec or if you were top in grades. And that meant you got first choice of your room. A lot of girls would gravitate towards those. and then the third floor was just all the regular double rooms and communal bathrooms.
Starting point is 00:19:01 So that's kind of the way our house was set up. And the other interesting thing is we had about 90 to 100 girls in a pledge class, and only 40 girls could live in this house at a time. So it was a much smaller group, and typically it was only sophomores that got to live in unless you were on exec, and then if you were on exec, as a junior or a senior, you would be required to live in the house as well. So those were kind of the only exceptions. But other than that, that's kind of the gist on how our house was set up.
Starting point is 00:19:40 And I don't think I realized in college how different this setup might have been to a lot of people who had the chefs. I kind of feel like we missed out on the meals and stuff. I don't know if I feel like we missed out on the sleep. porch because it sounds a bit insane and far-fetched to me who lived in a house that was just so much smaller and pretty chill. But who knows? It could have been really fun. I'm interested to hear all of the stories on the sleeping porch. In my experience being in a sorority, the sleeping porch is actually something that my sorority really, really enjoys.
Starting point is 00:20:23 And the girls all honestly, like, kind of fight to get that room, which is definitely untraditional. And definitely not the usual living arrangement for most girls. I know it's quite common to want a single or a double with a friend or, honestly, at most, like a quad. But in my sorority house, what we call porch, is a room with eight girls, and this year actually had 10 girls, so they added an entirely new bunk bed in there. And honestly, like, the sleeping porch in my house kind of represents exactly what all the girls really, really want to get out of being a sorority,
Starting point is 00:21:05 which is making really amazing friendships and bonding with girls that maybe wouldn't otherwise have had the opportunity to get close with, especially in a pledge class with around 60 girls, it can feel kind of daunting to form relationships and get close. And so the porch kind of represents a way to kind of like hack that, I guess, and live with like one sixth of your pledge class, like right off the bat and just become friends pretty much immediately. So it's really popular in my house. And I guess there are a couple of funny stories that have come from it.
Starting point is 00:21:44 one of which actually ended up on a lot of really popular Instagrams. I'm pretty sure it ended up on bar stool sports a couple years ago, but basically very, very funny story in my house is that because our house is very casual, doors are kind of left open in bedrooms, you can kind of just go in and out. There's a really close relationship between all the live-ins, so no one really feels the need to like lock up their space. And a couple of years ago, someone left one of the doors open in said porch.
Starting point is 00:22:22 And, you know, the girls come home from class, and one of the girls is taking a nap, and she turns to her right. And there's a squirrel sitting on her roommate's bed. And at this point, it had been spring semester when a lot of girls were abroad. so the sleeping porch was actually quite empty. I think it was five girls sleeping in quite a big room,
Starting point is 00:22:45 and so it was five bunk beds. And she managed to get this whole thing on video, but basically she filmed with the craziest high-pitched scream as a squirrel jumped from bed to bed and basically couldn't get out. And it's really funny. She's basically screaming bloody murder as she watches her room get taken over by a squirrel.
Starting point is 00:23:09 So honestly, I think that may be enticed girls more to live in there because it has such a funny reputation in my house. But I have nothing but good things to say about the idea of a porch. I think it's a really amazing bonding opportunity. And all the girls in my house honestly kind of fight each other for it because they know it's that amazing. So one night, my girlfriends and I from my sorority were coming back to our sorority house. after a night out, and we had just dropped off our guy friends because they aren't allowed to
Starting point is 00:23:45 even be in the sleeping porch or the cold room, as it's also called. So we drop them off, and then we all go to bed like normal, and then we wake up the next morning, and everything's fine, but someone texts our girls group chat and goes, look at this specific bed. and there was a guy in the bed alone, like just sleeping there alone. And so we all ran out of the room, started dying laughing. We had no idea how he had gotten in there. We didn't see him when we got back from going out.
Starting point is 00:24:22 And we have no idea how he got in there. And we also don't know how he left because we were just dying laughing. We didn't want to go back in the room. But someone, we assume, had snuck in a guy and he stayed the night. but she had left him in the morning. And so we don't know how or why he was there, but it was a crazy morning. Ego Wodup is your host for the 26 IHart Podcast Awards,
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