The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Off-Camera Romance with Leslie Fhima

Episode Date: November 1, 2024

Ben and Ashley are hanging out with Leslie Fhima from The Golden Bachelor and getting the real story about her “date” with one of the guys from Joan’s season of The Golden Bachelorette! Leslie tells all about what’s going on with Jordan Heller, and reveals that we *almost* saw her in a much bigger role after she wrapped the Golden Bachelor! Plus, we get Leslie’s honest take on Gerry and Theresa’s break up!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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To give you the answers and you still blew it. The puzzler. Listen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is the Ben and Ashley I, almost famous podcast with IHeart Radio. It's almost famous podcast as promised as usual. We have some of Bachelor Nation's favorite contestants. We get the behind the scenes scoop on their life, their experience. and what they're up to now, Leslie, welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. Thank you.

And I have to say thank you for saying my name correctly. Leslie, not Leslie? It's Leslie, not Leslie. Okay, that's hilarious. Everybody says Leslie. So when we were on Winter Games, our friend Dean was dating a girl name Leslie. And I was always like, you say her name is so funny. he'd say Leslie.

He's like, isn't that the way it's supposed to be said? I'm like, I don't know. Is it? It's like, it's always been Leslie to me. And apparently not. Well, I, okay, I have a really good friend. Her name is Leslie, like mine, except she hates being called Leslie. She wants Leslie.

And I hate being called Leslie. I want Leslie. That's how I grew up. My family called me Leslie. All my friends, you know, call me less, really. and so yeah so when it's kind of funny

the only two people I've heard say my name correctly is you and reality Steve I thought it was here you were going to say Gary yeah no he didn't

he never got it he vacillated even after I told him but whatever okay got to jump into that a year removed what are your feelings towards Gary

do you look at him now and think like oh totally get it i was so in love or are you like what was i thinking or somewhere in between um well now it's the latter yeah yeah how long did it take to get there pretty much like when i got to the wedding i was done i was like yeah no i actually you know thought they're actually a perfect couple that's what i was thinking really so You know, I was like, no, he's not for me. I mean, you know, you guys know, you're in a bubble and, you know, I mean, I've said this on other podcasts.

Gary was very focused and kind and sincere and I felt safe with him. And I did feel my feelings with him. I totally did. And but, you know, then you get out of that and you're going, yeah. that's probably not my person i tell you speaking of the wedding you and i had an incredible moment at the wedding i still get asked about it today they said hey i saw you on tv and you were dancing with leslie and i said yes it will go down as one of the most fun events actually i've had in in all of my bachelor's nation experience that was a great wedding and thank you for for making it

as little amount of awkward as possible. I don't think people watching it understood. There was no music playing. They were like, hey, you two go dance together. And we're like, to what? And they said, just go dance. The music's playing. We're live.

And so you and I, we did our thing. And they told me I was dancing to you. I'm like, oh, thank God. Because if anyone can make me look better, then. Because I'm so bad. Moves, dancing moves. Yeah. Because I'm so bad.

Wait a second. Wesley will look incredible. We just got to put Ben next to her because he's going to look like one of those blow-up machines at the car wash that kind of flops around. That is his move.

It's going to be great. I was trying not to be the cringy older woman dancing with you, but it's hard because, you know, I'm like, you know, I don't need music. So funny.

Okay, so were you shocked when, like, what were your feelings that don't put words in your mouth? how did you feel when you found out that like 10 weeks after that wedding they were getting divorced? I was a real shock, but it was a little bit of a progression because after the wedding, then there was three times I was with Teresa and Gary after that. So it was like, well, for sure, two times. I don't know if they were at the men tell all, but I was at the mental law or the women tell all,

the finale of Joey's season and then Celebrity Family Feuds. So it was kind of a progression. And, you know, Teresa and I were really good friends in the house. So we, after the initial getting home and whatever, we did, actually, she invited me to the wedding. She called me up and invited me to the wedding. And yeah, and she really wanted me there.

And so after that, you know, we kind of fell back into how We were in the house and, you know, we were really close. And, yeah, so it wasn't like a shock like everyone else got shocked because I kind of, you know, heard things. But I was shocked initially, like, really? I mean, yeah, I kept saying, why did you get buried? I know. Were you hearing things or were you witnessing things when you saw them together? No, I wasn't really witnessing it, for say.

I was hearing things, and I get, you know what, I guess they weren't. I didn't feel like they were as close as I would think they should be when we got together in person. I could see a little space between them and stuff, you know. So I felt, you know, like it was maybe not working. Yeah, it'll be interesting in the golden, and I want to hear your thoughts on it. I'm saying it's interesting. I want to hear your opinion. It'll be interesting now as the golden franchise continues if the show also tries to do these expedited weddings like they did. I mean, they did it with Trista and Ryan. When I was The Bachelor, they attempted to do it with me. The problem was we weren't together, so it didn't really work out that well for them. the problem I wonder just in general

if the show would be better off doing this like a year later giving it the time to kind of settle out shake up but they try to make it so fast

that it feels like it puts too much pressure on these couples yeah and I agree if say it was ended differently and Gary had picked me I would have absolutely no way agreed to that. I just know, I would have not done it.

If they say here's a million dollars to get married. She's like, well, darn. You would have said, no. Well, it wasn't a million. I know. But if it was, because that has been a number that used to be used for these weddings, they said, here's a million dollars. And we're going to cover your wedding and cover the expenses of your family and friends getting there.

You just have to get married like two months after this thing stops airing. you would have said no it's hard it's a hard question i mean yeah who doesn't want a million dollars but who wants a third divorce that is not my goal in life okay well it's only 500,000 after taxes so i wouldn't i don't know if i would do it for that um i don't know i mean i would try to yeah i'll hopefully make money another way i don't know um i just Or negotiate for further, like, can we do it in eight months? You know, I just, I feel it's just too soon. And, you know, it's too soon, you know, most really to get engaged.

And then it's too soon to get married, you know. I mean, unless you are at love of first sight and you fall in loving and no, I mean, you know, that this is my, this is my person. But if you are a little hesitant, I don't know. I think you've got to say no. Well, obviously you're coming off of the Golden Franchise as one of, if not, the most recognizable cast member from this season. We have a lot of really great cast members and people who participate in the season. They're great friends.

They've been out there kind of doing their thing. Two questions, but I'll start with this one. What is it like to see this group of women kind of, go off on this whole new journey after the show, you know, and see themselves kind of in this whole new light, doing entertainment, doing, posting, all these things. Yeah, I love it. I mean, I had no idea, like, you know, signing up. I mean, I knew because of course, I'm a, you know, Bachelor Nation fan, but I didn't realize it was going to happen like that with us. And I really, you know, it warms my heart and makes my heart happen.

to see everybody have their kind of little segment, you know, Susan and Kathy and Sandra and, you know, Ellen and what, Faith doing your hair color. I love that. I just love it all. And it makes me really happy. And, you know, I think we're really good spokes people for our generation. And, you know, I think that as long as we can write it out, I think, you know, why not? I think. more power to us. I like how you say Susan and Kathy in one breath because that's how I say it too. They're like Siamese twins sitting now. They literally are together doing their things all the time. They just had some thing done together as well. Right. They're going to tell us about that themselves.

They have some balls, man. I like, yeah. And energy. Energy that does not exist by any other human at any age. The two of them. I just mean putting that out there for the world to see. I give them so much credit. You know, I mean, but I think that we all have our lane.

Like, I would feel really weird doing that, but it wasn't weird for them to do it. You know what I'm saying? Like, I think we all have our lane and I think we all have our following and we are trying to cater to those people. And, you know, so I think it's cool. I mean, we each have, we all have different segments of, you know, people that are fans. And I like that. It's fun to see. Yeah.

So I know that when Joan was announced as The Bachelorette, it was like lots of positive responses. She's done a great job. But I think there was a lot of people surprised that it wasn't you. How did those talks go with them? I'm assuming there was some. I didn't have any talks with them. It's shocking to me. That's surprising to me that there wasn't a conversation with.

you on would you even be interested in this and if so how you know how do you want this to work and there was never the initial phone call because when you know in the bachelor world when you're the bachelor they're talking to the person they probably are going to choose but also two or three others just to kind of have some people on the bench in case something happens i heard that i heard that i kept waiting but you know i think they had something else in mind for me and um It didn't pan out at the final hour. So it was a little disappointing because I was waiting and waiting. Can you give us any insight as to what that could have been?

Yeah, maybe like a dancing show. Well. Yeah, maybe dancing with the stars. Yeah. I think that's what they had a name from me. And, you know, I had an interview with dancing with stars. And I was kind of waiting. It would have been fun to see you on that.

I think it would have been really good for you, but also for kind of the fans of the golden franchise to see you again representing them. Yeah. I mean, again, I'm a huge fan of Dancing of the Stars, and I watch it every single year. And when I had my interview, I just said, I want to be your oldest winner.

I want to be our oldest winner. And not to say that I was going to be, I mean, it's really hard to compete with 2019 year olds, you know, um, but I had the stamina. I have the drive. I've been training my whole life for this. And there's, it never gets past the older people, like the older people never advance. And it would, it would have been nice to, to have somebody represent the older situation, you know, um, because there, baby boomers are, we're it right now, you know. So, um, yeah, but maybe someday, I don't know.

My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up.

Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. It's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not?

To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. My name is Ed. Everyone say hello, Ed. From a very rural background myself My dad is a farmer And my mom is a cousin So like it's not What do you get when a true crime producer

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Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHart Women's Sports. Hi, my name is Enya Yumanzoor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, We're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect.

And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. If given the chance, would you have preferred dancing with the stars over the Golden Bachelorette role? Thousand percent. just fits you more

I mean it would have got you more excited or fits you more it's it was a perfect it would have been a perfect fit for me I think that I'm not saying I would have turned the golden bats start down I wouldn't I don't think I would have

I just think that dancing on the stars would have shown who I really am you know I mean they really have a chance to show who they really are and not the one dimensional person you see 45 minutes a week

because our show was so short. You know, I really wanted for the country to kind of like get to know me, you know, and who I am. Do you possibly think that Jen took your spot last minute? You know, I don't because I know that, I don't know, but I don't think so because I think they, I know that they took

from 14 people to 12 and Jen was an add-on. She made 13. so I think she was last minute yeah and you know she definitely deserved it and I was just there last week and watched her dance and she was phenomenal and Theresa and I went there together rooting Joey and Jen on and it was phenomenal but it was really hard for me to sit there going you know you know yeah I I don't know who took my spot but you know maybe it was Anna with the ankle bracelet I don't know yeah see that's what i was thinking is there's some people this season where it'd been really fun to see you step into that i do think three bachelor contestants probably was an issue for them and at some level that was the conversation yeah that they had was totally three people yeah as much as it would be fun to see that so who knows the future still could be there where maybe they don't have a bachelor bachelor at the movie fits the dancing with the stars world and they say

come on back and then you'd be pumped and we'd be excited here I would it would be my dream I'm sure but you know I kind of stop kind of have to stay relevant and I don't know how that's going to happen but you know you just don't I just don't know what's going to happen in the future but um you know it was I got in shape and I worked out really hard this summer you know and it was um yeah it was it was exciting to think that it was going to happen so maybe yeah i know how you could stay relevant how you could date one of the guys on jones season like maybe jordan he's really cute that was that's really good that was good um sneaky little girl um uh yeah i i i guess i did there something you want to ask me actually i do are you dating jordan

No, I'm not dating Jordan. I met Jordan. Have you gone on a date with Jordan? No, I went on a meet and greet with Jordan. A meet and greet? Pre-date? I don't know if it was a meet and greet. I don't know what you call it.

Jordan had a suite at the soccer game in L.A. last week. His childhood friend is like the president of the club. And he had a suite. And he invited me. And I brought my girlfriend, Wendy, who I was staying, I stayed with her for one night in L.A. And there were some other guys in there from the show and some, a producer that I love. And it was awesome. So you flew for it?

No, I flew to L.A. to go to Dancing with the Stars. Oh, okay. I just happened to be in L.A. a day early. Just was weird timing. I need clarity on this, though. I knew that. I knew that what we're going to do. Yeah. Out of all the women who are a part of this franchise, why did Jordan ask you?

Had you guys ever talked before this invite? Was there communications consistent enough for him to say, hey, by the way, you told me last night as we were texting that you're going to be in L.A., and I have been to have a suite, and you should come with me. I mean, we have been texting a little bit. Your voice just crack? I didn't know that was a thing as we got a... I didn't know your voice could still crack when you get nervous.

How did you get the number? Okay. You guys, I mean, come on. Just because we're older doesn't mean we're stupid. Okay, fun. Same. Just because we're older doesn't mean we're stupid. We're reading through the lines here and saying it's not just a random invite to some sweet.

We just want to hear that like there's a possibility in your future admitting that you, you have talked to at least one person from this season or that you watch this season with an intriguing eye going, hmm, he's interesting. Yeah, I think that. Yeah. I think I did. I like Jordan when I was watching the show.

I liked him the best for me, like say for me. You know, I think all the guys are great. I don't, you know. I'm just saying, if it was me, if I was the Golden Bachelorette and I was, and he was on that show, you know, you know how you think. And, but, you know, what's good for me isn't going to be right for Joan or whoever else. You know, I think that's the beauty of those men. I think they appeal to certain, you know, women. And I like that.

Hopefully, there'll be some connections. Jordan, I feel like we have a lot in common. I know that he's funny. I love funny. He lives in Chicago. I live in Minneapolis. He has a dog. I have a dog.

I mean, stuff like that's important. And we're both Jewish. And, you know, at the end of the day, that's important to me as well. I mean, it's not, you know, hard to stop. I have to have someone Jewish. But, I mean, if you meet someone and they are, you know, your faith, that's just the icing on the cake. So have you guys called and texted each other since this weekend meetup?

We have texted, yeah. I mean, not a ton, but a little bit. And, you know, it's really not, it's, for me, I don't know where would it go if it's going to go. I just think he's a great guy. And to be friends with him first, it's fine with me. and, you know, that kind of thing. It's like, I don't need to jump into anything. I mean, he's got a whole year of this ride.

And I want him to enjoy it, and I want him to experience it. And I don't want to get in the way of that. But I'm here as a friend, and he, you know, after he goes through all his DMs from all the women And the daughters and the sons. He knows where I am. But, I mean, you do have a common bond when it comes to that. I think he's probably like me where he's not uber religious, but, you know, you are into your faith and more of the heritage thing and all that stuff.

And, yeah, so I don't know. I don't know. We'll see. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her.

Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same. age. It's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. My name is Ed. Everyone

say hello, Ed. From a very rural background myself, my dad is a farmer, and my mom is a cousin. What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. On 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club?

A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Have you ever wished for a change but weren't sure how to make it? Maybe you felt stuck in a job, a place, or even a relationship. I'm Emily Tish Sussman, and on she pivots, I dive into the inspiring pivots of women who have taken big leaps in their lives and careers.

I'm Gretchen Whitmer, Jody Sweeten. Monica Patton. Elaine Welteroff. I'm Jessica Voss. And that's when I was like, I got to go. I don't know how, but that kicked off the pivot of how to make the transition. Learn how to get comfortable pivoting because your life is going to be full of them. Every episode gets real about the why behind these changes.

and gives you the inspiration and maybe the push to make your next pivot. Listen to these women and more on She Pivots, now on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The U.S. Open is here, and on my podcast, Good Game with Sarah Spain, I'm breaking down the players from rising stars to legends chasing history, the predictions, well, we see a first-time winner, and the pressure. Billy Jean King says pressure is a privilege, you know. Plus, the stories and events off the court, and of course, the news. The Honey Deuces, the signature cocktail of the U.S. Open. The U.S. Open has gotten to be a very fancy, wonderfully experiential sporting event. I mean, listen, the whole aim is to be accessible and inclusive for all tennis fans,

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is it still your world kind of give the listeners a perspective and what life looks like from the time you know you left the show to now well I did have a few of those um not a ton um and then when I had when they did do that they showed me a picture of their dad and I'm like yeah no sorry you know but there was one person and this kind of a funny story I think I should share it

but there was one girl and she was a doll I mean I oh my gosh she was gorgeous and she goes you need to meet my dad and all this stuff so just I'm cutting to the chase but this man was in Miami and my son and my grandkids were in Miami

and I had Zach go do a mean greet for me. I love this expression. Mean greet. Yeah. No, the second time I've used it. Yeah. I don't know. Maybe a recon, I should say.

Anyways, with my grandkids in the Uber, they're going there. And I'm cutting a lot out. And so they meet this person, and I'm sure he's a lovely man. I did talk to him once on the phone or twice on the phone. He seemed like a lovely man, but I was like, you know, I kept saying, I don't know what my life is going to be. And he kept saying, well, if you're the golden bachelorette, you shouldn't take it because I'm waiting for you.

And I'm like, red flag, you know, stuff like that. And so anyway, Zach met him, a lot of things kind of happened, but he gets back in the humor and he facetimes me and he's in the middle of my two grandkids are on those sides. And I said, so would you think? and they both lean in, glamma, not for you, not for you. That's amazing. That's hilarious. That's so good.

Yeah, so anyways, that did happen, and I'm sure he's a really nice person. He just wasn't for me. Yeah. But, you know, I live in Minneapolis. I say this a lot. I've lived here my whole life, and I call it a small big town or a big, small town, whatever. And I know a lot of people, even before this show, because I, you know, I was, I'm an instructor and I teach a lot of people thousands. I've taught thousands, you know, and I just

know people. And there's just not a lot of, you know, I don't want to date someone's ex-husband because I know them probably. And, you know, the Jewish community is small here. I mean, it's big, but it's small, you know. And I, you know, so that part. is hard to find and I just don't find anybody here that I want to date. So really I can honestly say in a year I've been on two dates just once, like one date and then another date. That's shocking to me. That really is because you want to like right. You'd be down for it. Oh my God. I'm I am so ready for love. I mean, I'm just like ready but I'm not desperate. So, you know, there's a fine line. You know, I have my

family. My life is full. I have my grandkids. I go to concerts every week. I, you know, I work out. I teach my classes. I do a lot, but I do want somebody and I have been ready. And I was really ready when I applied for the show. I mean, I've been literally divorced for 23 years. I've had, you know, a few long-term relationships, but I have been single for a long time. Yeah. We know that the show sort of, you know, pushes engagement on you, would you want to get married again or would you just companions for life? That's a hard question. I think I would want to marry the right person. I know that, I mean, but I want that companion as well. I mean, if I found the right person and they said, I don't know if I want to get married, but it was the right person for me,

I'd be completely fine with it. If they, if I find that person, they said, I really want to get married, I probably would if it's the right person. But I also like having my freedom and I love, you know, and the longer you're single, the harder it is to compromise a little bit, you know, I'm used to doing my own thing, going where I want. And so I have to like scale it down a little bit and become one with somebody. But I'm totally ready for that. You know, I'm kind of open to anything so the open anything question and as we kind of wrap up here the rumor is that the golden bachelor franchise might be trying to start a spinoff maybe like a paradise type show if they called you and said hey we would love to have you a part of this spinoff show would that be a world you

enjoy entering back into or would you stay away from it that's a hard one I would like to do it because I think it would be fun and I know more now. I know to keep my mouth shut. No, but no, you're right. You know, you know, you're just kind of like and I tried not to be the loudest voice in the room

in the house, but you know, then all of a sudden it just comes out. But I think that and I would love to be with the girls again, you know, be with all the girls that would be so much fun. The scrutiny part is hard. The bullying online is hard, and that I would not miss, you know. And even though I don't even read half the things, I mean, I don't ever go on Reddit.

I don't ever, you know, go on half these sites. But that would be hard. But, you know, so it would be, and it kind of would depend on where my life was at that time. If I'm single, I might want to, yeah. Don't let the negative opinions of others ever. ever stop you from doing something you get very used to it over time and it becomes you know a nothing in your life no matter what people are saying yeah yeah Natalie's had it talk me off the cliff sometimes and she really put it to me like where I could understand she goes there are millions of people

that watch a show and the fraction that are commenting are like a pinhead and that really helped me because I've watched the show my whole life and I've never written it under everybody's picture. I wouldn't even think about it or my friends wouldn't. So that really helped me and that really put the whole thing in perspective. So, yeah.

If this show does happen, we kind of can assume that Jordan would be on your list as the guy that you'd want to see there. Okay, you kind of admitted that. You were like, you know, I picked it for me. Now, can we play matchmaker first? second who do you see together from your season and joe's season you know um i've been thinking about that and i actually i think faith and jonathan would be really cute together yeah i just yeah i i think

she's a free spirit and um that's i don't know it they just came to my mind um i don't uh i don't uh i don't uh know about the others i actually think i don't know what happens at the end but if guy doesn't get picked i actually see him with nancy oh i don't i don't know i was going to ask about nancy i love her yeah sweet sweet you know we grew up in the same lake where neighbors growing up really yeah i did not know that yeah she's sweet she's sweet she's sweet girl yeah amazing Amazing. But, you know, Susan and Kathy, again, same breath. Yeah. You know, Jack. You know, there's Kim. I don't know. I mean, I, you know, I met Dr. Bob and Gil the other night in the game. So, I mean, they all, they all seem very, very kind men. Very kind.

There's a lot of potential for this show. And I think we would all be super interested in what it would look like to see. this mix match of contestants going down to the beach and seeing who would partner up with each other. I think it could have wild success in terms of love. I do because I think there's a lot of freedom of choice and freedom of exploration and excitement on these spin-off shows that I think everybody would enjoy it. I'm pushing for it. And if they ask you and you are single, I would highly, highly ask you to go because I love to see you on this spinoff finding or at least exploring the idea of love again yeah the guys would love to see you there too i'd be open for it you know i i'll hit the powwis a little bit stronger and i'll go you're ready for it

leslie it is a absolute pleasure to have you here and we're so excited to catch up with you um we wish you the best and whatever life takes you whatever direction life takes you in next just know we're supporting you and we're happy to see it yeah thank you band. I can't wait to dance with you again. Yes. And both of you guys, I love you both so much. Thank you. Oh, you're seriously so sweet. Maybe 10 years removed from The Bachelor, I'll be asked to go back on dancing with the stars, and we can compete.

Maybe they should have a, just a, you know how I feel. We should have a spinoff. That's amazing race. Yeah. Sort of amazing race spinoff. That would be my other show I'd like to do. I'm a goer. I'm a doer. I'm a doer, like a dog. Well, this has been the Almost Famous Podcast. Until next time, I've been Ben.

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