The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Old Matt Donald
Episode Date: October 14, 2019Almost Famous has a guest, E I E I OWe’re hanging out with Old Matt Donald, and he’s got tea to spill! He clears up some confusion from his time on Bachelor in Paradise and we get the real story ...of why he brought up his mom during THAT kiss. Plus we break down the drama between Rachel and Raven! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hello, ladies and gentlemen, it is Ashley and Ben is in Honduras this week, so he is not here,
but I am joined by our lovely producers, Tori and Danielle, and we're going to.
to hit up the Bachelor Hot Topics before we get Matt Donald from Hannah Brown season
and BIP season six, who you may remember had a relationship with Sydney and, as he called
supermodel, Bree Barnes. But first let's talk about the sass that Colton threw out there this
week. So much sass. I think I love Colton. I mean, Colton is serving up some drama. I
I like to, I like listening to it.
I'm not going to, I don't know.
I don't even have an opinion based on what he's talking about.
This week, Rachel Lindsay went on watch what happens live with Andy Cohen.
And she says that she will never be friends with Raven Gates again.
If you guys remember, they were good friends on Nick Byall season.
And then they were tight after the fact.
They were going on vacations and stuff together.
A lot of couple.
Instagram.
Yeah.
And then all of a sudden, she unfollowed Raven on Instagram and she, you know, wasn't at the wedding.
And there was speculation that they weren't friends anymore.
We don't know what that is.
And Rachel even said on Andy Cohen that whatever happened, whatever caused this feud, was enough for me, quote, quote, it was enough for me not to be friends with her anymore.
She also went on to say that the reason that the friendship ended,
would never be put out there.
She would never put it out there
because she promised she wouldn't put it out there.
So I don't know what this all means.
But like you are putting it out there.
She's totally putting it out there.
Jared was like that
that's not cool.
You can't say that there's a reason
you're not putting out there
if you are just almost saying it all.
You could legit just be
yeah, you know, I just don't really want to talk about it.
We just went our separate ways.
Then that's like more of a casual
but it's like I will never be friends with her.
She wants people to know that Raven did something bad.
Yeah.
But here's the thing.
What could she have done bad?
So what I said, I was like, well, unless she, like, hooked up with Brian.
Right, exactly.
Is there really something that's not, like, forgivable?
Because if we're in the girl realm, we're like, oh, it's for sure because of a boy.
Exactly.
It's for sure because of a boy.
But we know that they didn't have been.
And engaged.
So I can't even think of a girl brain, like, in my mind, to be like, oh, then this would be the next thing.
Like I, if it's not a boy, I don't know what else it would be.
If she, like, touched Brian in any way or was flirty or something.
But she's engaged.
She's engaged. I don't know why she would ever do that.
But that's the kind of thing that I'd be like, you know why we're not friends?
Because she touched Brian.
Totally.
And I want Raven to, like, speak her side.
Like, tell us what happened, Raven.
But we did start this conversation out by saying that Colton's the one that's been sassy.
And this is because not only was this just.
just a juicy tidbit that we got from Rachel on Watch What Happens Live.
But then Colton responded making it even juicier saying that does Rachel like anyone?
He wrote it on Instagram under a photo about this drama.
Does Rachel like anyone?
Nick Viall has since responded saying, I think she likes me, which is funny.
But I will say, when I think of Rachel, I don't really think of positive or light.
I think that she does kind of bring a lot of, and I get it, you kind of need to bring a lot of the negative parts of something to light.
And I feel like that's what she feels like she needs to speak upon is being like, hey, you know, I don't really like Colton as being the next bachelor.
I'm not a big fan of that.
And I think it was because of the age, which is fine.
But when I think of her, I think negative.
Really?
Like she's kind of a negative.
person. I'm here for it. I love it. I love that she speaks her mind kind of like how we're on
team Colton right now because he's speaking his mind. I'm all for that. I feel like sometimes people
that are the bachelorette's or the bachelor. They play it safe. And Rachel's like,
nah, this is me. And there we go. You know, I do love her for that. I do love that.
I think you can do it. And I don't know. I don't know why for me it just seems like she's kind of
catty overseeing some things. Let's dive further into what Colton said. He said that he made that
remark because one time Rachel allegedly, to use the Wendy Williams word, spoke crap about
Colton to Cassie and she hadn't even met Colton in real life. Oh, yeah, there's that too. How would
that happened? Does she, like, slide into Cassie's DMs? Maybe, no, I think that she met Cassie
in her life. But I don't know. This is all speculation, alleged, blah, blah, blah. But I will say,
we get that in normal. Like, I don't think that you should take that personal. There's so many
times where my friends, like, oh, I'm kind of talking to this guy. I'm like, ooh, my friend
of a friend, yeah, mm-hmm, she dated him and it ended really badly. But like, to say that to the
girlfriend, but she wasn't a girlfriend then. No, no, no, she was a girlfriend then. Like, as I
Oh, you mean Rachel didn't meet Colton?
Has not met Colton and yet said something to Cassie about him.
That's pretty distasteful, in my opinion.
Because it's like, you don't know the guy.
His girlfriend clearly loves him.
So why are you trying to be an instigator in that sense?
It's all vague.
You know, we don't really know how this conversation went down.
I also kind of feel like when you're in The Bachelor Nation,
you feel like you can speak upon things probably more freely.
Like she's like, oh, I went through this.
So let me give you some of the warning.
signs or like what you should be looking out for where maybe she was trying to be kind of
sisterly with it but it just kind of is like well that's my boyfriend already so why are you saying
something but I feel like in The Bachelor it's like nobody really understands that nation as well as
just being in it so people try to help you out but it can come off wrong yeah it's vague it
could be interpreted in many ways but it is fun for us to watch them before that's what I'm gonna say
I want to know what Raven did I want to know what Raven did more and I and I do
like the fact that Colton is talking back. I think it's, well, again, it is entertaining for us.
Yeah. Totally. It's refreshing for people to like kind of just bite back. Can we get some of our
listeners to think of what they think the situation was? Yes. Let's get people. The allegedly
stories. Yes. We need people to dig in and really figure it out. Come on. I want all the options.
And then next week we're going to read all the emails of the speculations. Maybe they'll get,
they'll be so bad that Raven will just have to come out and tell us what I'm yeah yeah like there's
so many rumors circulating now she has to speak her truth and make Danielle's day better I mean Raven we
would love to have you on the show yeah wait but email at email Ben and Ashley at iHeartMedia.com
yeah because I want to know what do people think I what is it how can raven buy your tongue
like this she'd return the dress it's totally about a boy it has to be has to be has to
I think it has to be, too.
Maybe.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh, what?
Maybe Rachel or Raven said something about a concern before she got married about
Brian.
Oh.
And then she was like, you can't recover.
But you know, it's full circle because, yeah, because she was talking to Cassie saying
here's what her concerns are or whatever, whatever vague thing she said to Cassie about Colton.
Maybe that situation happened to her from Raven.
And then it was like, you can't come back for that.
I'm marrying the guy.
you've already said what you think.
Like maybe it was like, oh, I think Brian's doing this.
Or maybe it was like the reverse.
Like we thought maybe Raven was like flirting with Brian.
But maybe Raven told Rachel, I get weird vibes from Brian.
Or, you know, maybe the opposite.
It's kind of weird.
He's very, he's a chiropractor, right?
So he's a touchy person.
And he's Latin and I could say this because I'm Latin too.
Like we're just like overly like affectionate people.
Like I could see.
I don't know. I could see that movie.
Or maybe she wasn't
a bridesmaid, so then Raven got upset.
No, that's not it.
All right, well, that would shut down fast.
Thank you next.
Yeah, thank you next to our next hot topic.
Hannah Brown says that she only had $70 in the bank
when she became The Bachelorette.
She told us to Mary Claire magazine
that she recently had the bank balance of $70
when she agreed to star on season 15 of The Bachelorette.
she was obviously fresh off Colton season her career was messy she said she initially wanted to be a broadcast journalist but by the time but her time was always consumed by her miss Alabama USA duties and she also had an interior design job she says that now she needs to hustle and make some money but she's doing a lot better than $70 as we are told that dancing with the stars gig does pay pretty well um I love these stories me too she's just moved to L.A and she's excited to be able to move
on to a new city and just see where life is going to take her.
I really relate to her on that.
I do.
Like, wow, spirit animal a little bit.
Yeah, and I love these stories.
I mean, who was it?
I think it was Chris Pratt who was living out of his van in Hawaii.
Same with Tiffany Haddish.
And it's like, I love those rags to Rich's stories.
It's like, you deserve it.
You busted your ass off and now you're here where you are.
And to be bold, to be like, you know what?
Here's where I am.
Just say it to be honest like that.
And I'm just going to go on the show.
just see just see what come about like what happens and obviously it worked i will say maybe 70s
a lucky number i will also say that like when i was casted on the show was a year after i graduated
from grad school i had a six-month internship which was non-paid and i was like job searching
for four months just couldn't find a job after grad school from the to my own horn the top broadcasting
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We are joined right now by the lovely Matt Donald.
Matt,
how many people, like if you were to give a percentage, call you Matt McDonald?
Yeah, it's a lot.
If I could put it in like a percentage, probably like, first time I ever meet somebody, actually Hannah B.
I still think this is like one of the reasons why I got cut so quickly.
The first, like when I sing my song, I like introduce myself Matt Donald.
Matt Donald, whatever. She goes, oh yeah, Matt McDonald, nice to meet you. And I was like,
no, it's Matt Donald. And I kind of, I probably came off kind of like, no, you're wrong.
My name's Matt Donald. But I get it all the time, all the time. Matt McDonald, I get like
the old farm boy thing. Well, you played into the farm boy thing. Because you showed up on a
tractor, which makes us all feel like you're from a farmland. Are you not? No, I actually am.
I'm glad this is great, by the way, because you have an awesome platform, so I'm super happy to be here.
You have a ton of, like, Batch Nation followers, so I can really start to, like, talk about some stuff that, uh, air that are, like, just, like, to perception and stuff like that.
I am not a farmer.
I, uh, I am way to, I don't know, I don't want to, like, shoot myself down, but I just not the kind of guy likes to get down and dirty.
Mm-hmm.
So, you're not a farmer, but when I said, did you grow up on farm?
you said, yeah.
So I grew up in a small town in Maryland, Western Maryland, called Middletown.
Okay, so I'm from Northern Virginia.
Oh, are you?
Okay.
I know, I know Great Falls.
Okay.
So I know exactly what you're talking about.
It gets really rural on that side of Maryland.
Yeah, so we actually had a Bring Your Tractor to School Day.
So, like, that's how rural I was.
I went to James Madison.
Okay.
And all the towns around it used to have Bring Your Tractor to Work at a school day.
Yeah, I went to High Point.
So we used to drive by JMU going up there.
Yeah, it's like in the middle of nowhere.
It's like a plop of land
And then like the football stadium's on the right
The school's on the left, driving north
Or south I guess
It's split by the highway
Yeah, yeah
Do you like it there?
They kind of compare high point
and JMU to each other
They say they're like similar schools
I went to Syracuse for grad school
And I like to consider that
My like home school
Because I never really connected at JMU
I'm glad that I went
Because it had the right
Fields like it had media arts
And that's what I wanted to do
In a lot of schools
Especially back then
Back then all of it
12 years ago, which is actually a freaking long time, didn't have it.
But no, I never felt connected.
I didn't love Jamie.
Okay.
It's a pretty big school.
It was like, what?
16,000.
16, yeah.
Yeah.
They had a huge football state for 16,000.
Yeah.
They're trying to like get up there.
Yeah, get the hype up for sure.
Yeah.
Anyway, so you did grow up in a rural area.
You, in your bachelor bio, call yourself a old-fashioned guy who loves to bring flowers
to a girl in the first date.
Do you do this for real?
he does not he also probably thinks that it would be creepy if he did that because it's a little bit
um aggressive i i'm totally like a believer in flowers and stuff like that like most of the
girls that i've dated in the past like in a real relationship will do like the you know oh happy like
one month happy two month like with flowers but first date it's a little aggressive okay why did you put
that in your question and answer you just were trying to be super i don't i don't i don't recall
actually putting that down i think it was more so like i'm a very very very very much i'm a very
very short person. So whatever I wrote down was probably like, they were probably like, dude, this guy.
Not physically. You're not a short person physically. You're short in writing and speaking.
Thank you. I'm about 6-1, 6-2 with the right shoes on. But yeah, no, I don't recall saying that.
But you know what? Like that whole process has been a huge blur to me. So maybe I did say it,
just trying to, I don't know, catch the hearts of America. I don't really know.
It also says in your bio that you are a, well, we're just going to.
This bio is horrible.
Our very first impression of you, even before we saw you on the season, these bios are
released with your photo.
And I think that a lot of people were like, oh, that's one of the cuter guys in this bunch,
especially based on those first pictures.
Oh, those first pictures were horrible.
You know what I have to say?
It seems like the Bachelor, Pete season, the girls look great.
Like they, I don't know if they have better lighting or if they're just that much better
looking than they don't like, I swear, but it's like night and day.
I feel like every year they strive to do better and better photos.
Yeah, well, I remember...
Yeah, well, do you remember when the photos first came out?
I mean, obviously, I was like...
I went home, like, four days after they released those photos.
So you saw all the reactions!
I saw everything.
And everyone's like, oh, my gosh, the worst bachelor, bachelorette cast ever.
Where did they get these guys, like, off the street, blah, blah, blah.
And then when the show airs, you know, you start to see,
this might be the best bachelor cast we've ever seen, like, blah, blah, blah.
It's just funny how people are so quick to judge
And those pictures have been forgotten
Like nobody remembers those pictures
I will say that girls are always telling their friends
He doesn't look good in pictures
He doesn't look good in pictures
But he's really cute in real life
I just think that guys maybe don't photograph
Especially in that environment
Like just point and shoot type
Oh yeah
It's very and like at least for me
I being in front of cameras was
I couldn't even like whenever my friends would do snaps
Like Snapchat's
I'd like get out of the way
because they want to be on camera. And then here I am, like, putting myself on broadcast or television
to millions of people. It's just like, it's been just a big, just my life has changed in
terms of that aspect of like getting more comfortable with myself and knowing what I actually
look like and like what the back of my head looks like. And just like the little things that you
don't really think about when you're living your day-to-day life and then all of a sudden you go
on camera. So why did you sign up for the show? Yeah, that's a great question. So I'm not, I'm not going
to sit here and be like, oh, you know, somebody threw my name in. But,
blah, blah, blah. I will fully
own up to it and say, I
put my name in the hat. Yes, me too, me too. Did you? Good.
I'm so glad people are honest about that. I cannot,
I hate it when people lie and say like, oh yeah,
I had somebody. I was nominated. And I was like, when you say you're nominated,
it makes you sound so snotty. My husband was nominated,
but he truly, truly was.
I've heard great things about him, by the way.
Thank you. I'm good friends with Ben Z.
Oh, okay. And he has nothing but like the greatest things to say about Jared.
Oh, thank you. But yeah, it's like,
everyone always says a friend signed them up.
And I'm like, can I just find somebody else who just said,
I'm going to fill out that form for The Bachelor?
Yeah, I mean, I grew up watching it, which...
Oh, you grew up watching it.
Oh, great, great, great.
We got more questions.
Well, I took, like, a hiatus.
Well, I grew up watching, like, the very first season with my mom and dad.
And then watched it to, like, high school.
And then it wasn't cool to watch that kind of stuff in high school.
So I kind of, you know, stayed away from it for a little bit.
And then college definitely wasn't cool.
I was in, like, a fraternity and stuff.
There's no way I could ever let anyone know I was watching that show.
So I didn't watch too much of it during college.
But when I got back after school, you're like 21, 22.
You're like, oh, wow, these people are actually a lot more relatable.
Like, they're not in college.
They're human beings.
They struggle with dating in the real world, like, just like how I was or still am.
So I've kind of tuned back into it.
And then these last couple seasons have really started to, to,
stay close. I think it was like Rachel Lindsay season. I started to tune in or actually
Jojo season was when I really started to kind of tune back in. So did you watch this with
your mom and bond over it over time? Yeah. I mean, it was like our Monday night thing, right?
We all watch it together. Like my mom never watches TV, but like the whole family knows like
from 8 to 10 on Monday nights. It's like we're going to watch The Bachelor or the Bachelorette.
And that's like for my mom and it was a good way for us to kind of come together.
and watch and you know kind of just like laugh and I don't know it it's it was kind of like going on
to the show it's kind of uh it was it was bad being such a fan because I realized such a like the
novelty of it so like you know the entrance pulling up to oh yeah like how it's like the biggest
and it doesn't help my producer was like you realize this is like the most iconic uh night of
reality television history and I'm like yeah as I'm sitting in the trash I'm like thanks man
there is something crazy about when those gates open you see the wet driveway and the
mansion all lit up it's the most surreal thing that could ever happen to a bachelor fan
yep it really is so now I feel really bad that you were such a fan and it was something that
you bonded with your mom over and then you get eliminated night one and you know how
sucky it is to get eliminated night one it's it it was I don't cry ever and I'm not like
trying to you know sound like a big macho man I'm just not that I just I'm just a
emotionally. I'm just not, I just don't get to that point very often. I almost cried that night. It's like, it's just like you never, you just wonder what's wrong with you and why you suck at dating and, you know, I'm not. You're the podcast for that. I know, Dean, right? Dean and Jared. Dean and Jared. Okay. Um, but, uh, yeah, it, it, it sucked. I, I, I knew going into it that I'm like, not Mr. Smooth and I'm not the one who's going to be like, you know, Mac Daddy swagger, like, have all the right lines.
So it sucked, I mean, but I'm super grateful for everything that happened.
I don't think I don't think I would have made it very far anyway.
Just from my personality, I'm kind of more reserved.
Do you feel like you and Hannah did have chemistry that night or was pretty obvious that
night you're like, oh, we're not, we're not going to connect?
Yeah.
I was actually really, I saw she did like some sort of interview or something where she was
talking about how, like, she thought it was BS that everyone was like, oh, we're super
happy that you were picked for the Bacheloret, like, all the guys saying that to her.
I personally was, like, really, really rooting for her to be picked because she was a, she was
from Alabama.
I actually, my dad's side, I was born in Alabama.
My dad's side grew up in Alabama.
So, like, I'm a huge Crimson Tide fan Roll Tide.
I was going to say, did you roll Tide with her the first night?
No.
Actually, I did.
I did in our conversation.
Oh, good.
But I do, I, I'm glad I'm cognizant enough to, I, I think.
I know the reason why she did boot me, and I think it's just because, like, our one-on-one
conversation, I was so nervous that I ended up just talking about myself a whole time.
Oh, no.
Yeah.
So, like, when I walked away, I remember, like, being like, all right, where did I gather from Hannah?
Like, what about her?
And then I was like, oh, damn, like, I don't, I literally just talked the whole time.
And, like, she's probably so tired of, like, everybody talking her ear off.
So I think that I had one bigger reason to do with it.
And then the song probably didn't hit it off.
But it's all good.
I got to go to Paradise, which is awesome.
I think everybody loved the song watching it.
Why would you think that Hannah wouldn't be into the song?
Sing it.
Old Matt Donald, out of charm.
That was, I, shoot, now I'm drawn a blank.
Oh, no, I'm Matt Donald and I'm so nervous.
I hope I catch your eye.
Stop, it's perfect.
With the bro, bro, bro, here, and a bro, bro there.
Here, bro, there, bro.
Everywhere, bro, bro.
I would have given you a.
rose right there you would have been my first impression rose oh thank you yeah it was
i know it it was uh i'm glad i'm i'm so glad i did i you know the way i saw is i had to be
memorable right like you have to go you have to go in there and you can't just be another guy who just
shakes their hand or gives gives her hug and says your name and then walks in the mansion so i was
like you know what i gotta do something and of course she couldn't even she didn't get my name right
she thought it was matt macdonald yeah well understandable yeah totally is she even knew your last
sort of name.
She doesn't know anybody else's last sort of name.
Yeah, that's true.
Did it feel good?
John Paul Jones, actually.
Oh, John Paul Jones.
She knew his entire name.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Well, very, very memorable.
Oh, John Paul Jones.
You come into, all right, you guys are actually tied for my first impression because
when he said that, I was like, holy moly, worshipping you.
You know what's funny?
You know what's funny is that there was, so obviously that episode, it kind of came down to
like me and John Paul Jones?
Like, you know how they, like, kind of hype it up to make it look like it's a showdown
between two people and who's going to get the rose.
Who didn't really get down to?
Because you guys, spoiler alert,
the rose ceremony is definitely edited sometimes
to look like people don't have roses or do have roses.
But like the final two standing there
aren't always the final two that we're standing there.
Yeah.
I actually don't know because like I never got,
it was so early on like we don't really get like a good idea of like who she made a
connection with who she didn't.
I think it was obviously like Luke, obviously Luke P had a really great connection
with her because you got the first impression rose but other than that like you don't see
the conversations you don't see who she's talking to and stuff like that so it's kind of hard to say
um but uh if you watch it back it was it was like kind of like between me and john paul jones
and looking back it's it's so funny because everyone was like why the hell did she pick john
paul jones like john jinglheimer smith blah blah blah really yeah i remember getting a lot of tweets
like seeing a lot of tweets and me tagged in it and now look at john paul jones he's like the
star of, like, it would have been the biggest mistake in the world if they would not pick John Paul Jones.
I think she should have kept you both around.
Oh, I think that.
Thanks.
Yeah, she should have eliminated somebody else.
How good it did it feel, though, to see that first night when it aired, how many people were just flabbergasted that she didn't pick you?
You were the new grocery store.
I'm not, okay, I can't give you that much credit, okay?
But, like, it was, it was similar.
Yeah.
Yeah. It was, I was so nervous before that night. That was, yeah, that was tough. Because you don't, you think you're going to get really embarrassed and like, you know, going home the first night on like a dating, dating show is never cool, I guess, or air quotes cool. I, the response was very overwhelming. It was very, very sweet. Everyone was incredibly supportive. You know, I just remember having so much anxiety because like,
it's very overwhelming like it was it was incredibly overwhelming and you just don't really know
how to anticipate it so it was it was really sweet everyone was incredible how'd your mom feel when
you were limited night one uh you know what's funny i you know obviously when you go you don't have
your phone i got back that sunday um and texted my i have like a group text with my family and
like yeah i'm back they're like yeah i got eliminated night one they're like oh we we still love you
blah blah blah so everyone's it's been great so everyone's been cool how was your mom when you got that
call that you had finally you made final casting you know i actually uh i didn't tell my family um
i didn't tell anybody just because you don't like when you're yeah well when you're casting for
it you don't think there's actually a chance i at least for me personally like i didn't think
there's actually a chance it was going to happen until i got the phone call and so i didn't
want to tell people so they could be like hey like what's what's the status you know what i mean um
So I didn't tell them until, like, I was like, hey, guys, just a, it's just an FYI.
I just got offered to go on, on the Bachelorette.
And, of course, like, they're like, you're joking.
And I'm like, yeah, no, I'm serious.
So that's kind of how it happened.
I mean, it was, it was cool.
Did you joke about it with your mom, like, throughout life being like, maybe one day
I'll be on the Bachelorette.
That's what we did?
No, not really.
You know, it was one show that I used to always, like, want to go on.
and I was very vocal with my parents.
If that was fear factor, like, back in the day.
Oh, well, we hear that you are terrified of spiders.
So what, I guess you would just be out of the running for, you know, you would just drop the money.
No thank you if you were trapped in a cave of spiders?
It's more so, it's more so like snakes.
I can't.
Oh, really?
Then why in your bio from?
That bio is very inaccurate.
The salsa dancing, too.
I don't, I honestly, I must have been delirious when I was talking about all this stuff.
Because I kind of know how to salsa dance, but, like, not well enough to say, like, I'm doing it at the club every weekend.
Okay, let's clarify to our audience where they come up with this Bachelor bio.
So you're sitting in the hotel room when it's top 50 casting.
So they're going to eliminate 25-ish people from this group.
But everybody needs to fill out the question and answer.
And it's 30 pages, right?
I was just going to, yeah.
30 pages.
Ridiculous.
And you're filling out paperwork.
You're here for like 36 hours in a hotel.
And you're filling out paperwork for I'm not even kidding, you maybe eight hours.
And you, at the end of it, you don't even know how to respond to some of these questions.
So you're just kind of coming up with whatever silly thing pops up in your head.
So you must have been like, I would love to learn to solve the dance, but I can't imagine I'd be good at it.
Honestly, a lot of the answers are just me trying to get through it.
You know, like when you take a test and you're kind of just, I mean, at least for me,
I've never been book smarts, but like when you take a test, and it's getting to the end and you know you failed it.
So you're like, you know what? Screw it. I'm just circle it in. Yeah, just circle it in. And that's, and that's pretty much like, I was just trying to get through that. And then like, do you remember that Scantron, that personality test? Yeah. Oh my gosh. You know that you did you have, you didn't have to redo it for paradise. Did you? Oh, gosh, no. I had to redo it for, I think my second season of Paradise and maybe winter games too because it had gone over a certain amount of time. And because the show is supposed to, you know,
transform you
for better for worse
so it really
you can become a more confident person
or a less confident person
or a more egotistical person or a less egotistical person
all that stuff so that's why you had to take it
I had to take it multiple times oh my gosh
like that would deter me from wanting to go to paradise again
like are you guys serious to I really have to fill this out again
I probably just like spell out something with the bubbles
your bio also says something that I'm sure
that you were also delirious when you said
I love, you love Hannah and you haven't even met her yet.
Yeah. Wow. What a great, what a great start to my Bachelorette career right there,
that whole bio. I, man, you've got it right there locked and loaded, huh?
Yeah, I don't know why I said that. I was just really excited that Hannah,
Hannah was going to be the Bachelorette. She was definitely the one I wanted, and I can honestly
say that. I know, I know she might not have thought that way about a lot of the guys saying that,
but like I was really pumped that that Hannah V was going to be the Bachelet.
That's awesome.
You're living in Santa Monica?
Mm-hmm.
How long have you lived in Santa Monica?
So I've lived there for two weeks now.
Only two weeks?
Yeah, I just moved down here.
From where?
So I grew up on the East Coast, but I lived in San Jose for about three and a half years.
Okay.
So I was doing a medical sales shop selling placentos and umbilical cords.
Um, can you explain this more?
Yeah, of course.
So you're selling other people's, obviously.
Mm-hmm.
because it's very good for, like, stem cell research and health, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So real quick, I know you're probably, like, not.
No, this is actually super interesting to me.
Is it?
Okay.
I think, like, it's been surprisingly interesting to the audience, too.
So I got a lot of DMs about this.
I don't work for the company anymore, and it's not, I didn't like get fired or anything.
Everyone thinks I got fired.
But I just moving down here, I just want a little bit of change of pace.
But I, so I am not going to like abortion clinics or like plan
parenthoods to get placentas. It's definitely not what I'm doing. I'm not going to like the
OB clinic to grab placentas. There's hospitals throughout the country that have consenting
moms, healthy moms, healthy babies that are doing C-sections. And they'll donate their tissue,
their placental tissue and umbilical tissue to... Which is rich in what?
So it's rich in stem cells, growth factors, like different proteins and collagen.
Which is often used for what? Like complex wounds, complex burns. They're using it for like everything.
Anything to reduce inflammation, scar tissue, it's basically what it's indicated for.
Don't they normally ask the mom if she wants to keep it for herself because it can be really good to like take in pill form?
I don't know much. I don't know about, I know that there are, you know, people out there that do that. I don't know much about that. I don't know much about that, like consuming it. Like, I would imagine your body breaks it down, but I don't really know.
But, yeah, no, it's, it's a, there's a, there's a lot of research coming out on, on placental tissue and its benefits and stuff.
And I was kind of on the breaking edge of that. And it was, it was, it was a really great experience and like seeing a lot of patients being helped. It's just, it was, it's, I should have worded that better, that conversation with Demia.
It's, I, nothing sounded cool about, yeah, I sell placentas and umbilical cords. I should have, should have been a little, uh, doesn't sound, I mean, it sounds interesting.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Well, I will say it was, it's all like plans, healthy moms, healthy babies, happy patients at the end of the day.
That's really all that matters.
There's something about your life we haven't covered yet.
And that is the fact that you grew up with a family who your brother and your parents are both deaf and you grew up speaking sign language to them.
You're the only one who can hear in your family?
My sister too.
Oh, interesting.
So is it hereditary?
You know what? I get asked this all the time. And I don't, I don't know. I really don't know. I don't think the chances of me if I were to like get married and have kids with a hearing person, I think the chances are really low of me having a deaf child. I honestly don't know. How'd your parents meet?
So they met at Gardner Webb, which is a school in North Carolina. They have like a deaf program there. So that's kind of how they met in college.
Oh, that's sweet. Yeah.
So how was your, how was your life different in a way that like people out here listening would be like, oh, wow, that is a significantly different lifestyle growing up with parents like that?
Yeah, I mean, that's, it's hard.
I get asked that a lot and it's kind of hard because I don't have anything to compare it off it.
Like I didn't have hearing parents growing up, but I will say I did, and this is going to sound horrible, but I did have the luxury of listening to like vulgar music at a much younger age.
and I mean that
I was like the guy on the bus
in fourth grade
with like the walkman
and like the new 50 cent
like get rich die trying CD
that's hilarious
the explicit version
so like everyone would sit around
and we'd be like sharing a little
headphones
but other than that
like I had a very awesome
I mean I had a very good childhood
my parents were very good to me
um growing up
and yeah it's not
it really is not everyone thinks
it's like this very different lifestyle
and it's not at all it's
you know the only difference
that we communicate via sign language, not, you know, speaking.
Was sign language your first language?
They kind of went hand in hand.
Sign language is definitely like for like some of the easy things like, you know, like milk and
like more and food and stuff like that when I couldn't actually talk.
Sign language is the go-to, but I actually had my grandma live with my parents for the first
couple of years and, well, she didn't live with us, but she lived close by and she would kind
of associate words with signs, so I kind of learned them side by side, yeah.
Awesome. All right. Well, Matt, we are going to dive into a little bit of game time right now.
Oh, I love games.
We have two games for you.
Okay.
One is more just like a speed round of questions, which is what we're going to start with.
And I'll be honest, our speed rounds aren't necessarily speedy.
Okay.
I like to use it as a way of just getting to know you better through, like, quick bullet point questions.
Okay. Cool.
but some of them are you know really quick would you rather's we'll start with fun ones
prince or michael jackson musically oh michael jackson duncan or starbucks oh man oh do you really i
don't want to get in the weeds of this too much he has a starbucks i do but he is an east coast
guy yeah i uh i've been doing this this i i always talk about this and i hate myself for
talking about it i've been doing like the ketogenic diet so i yeah exactly open up a can of worms
here uh so duncan doesn't have very keto friendly like they're packed with sugar all of their
ice drinks but damn they're good uh-huh so taste wise taste wise duncan yeah they just build a duncan
right by my parents place back in maryland and i'm like super bummed because i would have loved
that as a kid growing up oh you made the right decision yeah uh jimmy kimball or jimmy
Fallon. Oh, man. That's a tough one.
Jimmy Fallon, if he has those lip-sync competitions.
Okay. Do you use a Mac or PC computer?
Mac, for sure.
Who is your celebrity crush?
That's tough.
You can give multiple options.
I've always, she's a little, I shouldn't say older. That's kind of mean, but she is a little older.
Sophia Vargara, I think her personality is...
You don't have to even say she's a little older because she's timeless.
She is.
And I love her personality.
At least on Modern Family, she's just like so energetic and, I mean, obviously she's very attractive too.
Fantastic answer.
Yeah.
What was the best Halloween costume as we are in October?
Oh, best Halloween costume?
My good friend and I in college made one of those like roller coaster costumes where like
we had like fake legs dangling so like we'd walk around and we like raise our hands up in
the air and people loved it we were walking around campus and so cool yeah it was fun that's
cool uh do you now smy's in pictures because of believe lessons i i know i that's so funny
no i don't i don't that was beyond me i keep that to the the people who do it professionally i
can't do it we thought that you were afraid of spiders so i did write down
a spider hole or four million dollars so would you sleep in a spider and snake hole for 24 hours we'll say
for a million dollars oh man well it depends because are this are the snakes and spiders venomous
because i might not make it through those 24 hours no they're not well then i could do it for a million
dollars if i knew i was not going to walk out of their dead well i wouldn't be walking but if i if i knew i was
going to die, then yeah, for sure, I would do it. I do it for
$500,000. Oh, okay, great.
You're brave. You got that scared.
No, I mean, money talks, right?
Who's your best friend from your
Bachelor experience?
Oh, man. Well,
Luke Stone's about to move in.
Move into your place? Yeah.
You guys are going to be roommates? Yeah, we're going to be roommates here
shortly. So get a lot of
fun, co-sponsored ads.
But yeah, Luke, Luke's awesome.
I've become good friends with Connor Jay, Connor Jenkins.
he's awesome.
A lot of the guys from my season on Paradise,
so like John Paul Jones, Dylan, Mike.
Yeah, everyone's super cool.
It's hard to, I made it,
I was only there for the first night.
It's like on The Bachelorette,
so it's not like I got to make really strong connections.
Yeah.
How are you friends with Ben Z?
And did he help you get on The Bachelor?
No, he didn't help.
He actually reached out.
He's such a good dude.
He reached out to me after the Bachelorette.
And just was like, hey, man, let's meet up.
I'm in San Jose, you're in San Jose.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, so we met up and, I mean, obviously, like, it's such a unique, as you know,
it's such a unique experience that, like, you can only share it with a select amount
of people.
So, like, I had tons of questions.
I was like, man, do you get, like, anxious about this, like, posting pictures, doing
selfies, blah, blah, blah.
And he's like, yes, but it's going to go away.
Just give it time.
And then he's always like, it's never as bad as it seems.
It's never as good as it seems.
He's a plethora of really good information because he's kind of been through it all.
He's a very sweet man.
He is.
And I'm super happy for him in his, uh,
Fiancee Stacey.
Yeah.
She's really cool, too.
On the show, you came across very innocent, very awshucks.
Oh, man, I don't know if my mom's going to be okay seeing this.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You don't come across like that in real life.
Yeah.
Why do you think you came across like that on today?
Yeah.
Ben, this is, when Ben and Sydney were here, I don't know where you were.
You were somewhere.
Ben and Sydney were here in studio.
Yeah.
When they, I don't know if you're on vacation.
Oh, you're on your honeymoon.
Yeah, that's right.
How was that, by the way?
That was amazing.
It was unreal.
Oh, my gosh.
Yeah, I was like, damn, that looks like a fun vacation.
I want to go back every day.
Do you?
Yeah, now you're sitting here with me.
Sorry.
No, this is pretty great, too.
To call this a job as a bluff.
Yeah, this is a pretty cool gig that you got going on.
But yeah, so the best way to describe it,
imagine, I'm not a baseball, so I'm going to butcher this.
But like, imagine playing baseball for, like, a farm league team and then getting thrown
into the World Series and you have to pitch.
Like, I literally had zero camera time on the Bachelorette.
like probably like 15 minutes of being actually on camera and then getting thrown into an
environment where everyone's super everyone was on camera for months right and they're super comfortable
and some of them have been in paradise for over a month or for a couple weeks or whatever it was
and you know like the whole city kissing Sydney thing like I was just like I was literally
there for not even 10 hours not like like two hours and I'm getting I'm like being prompted
on doing something that's typically very private in my life
and doing it on on like a national stage and again being such a fan of the show i know the novelty
of making out on camera and this and that so that was running through my head and i used like my mom
is like a vice right so i'm like oh my i don't know what my mom's gonna think really but in my head i'm like
dude i'm just really really camera shy right now and i do and i just don't feel comfortable like
doing this right at this moment and then of course you know fast forward to brianized date i'm like
sucking face with her and it's it's just uh if i could do it all over again i'd know it's not that
big a deal but you have a point there mostly for most contestants you get warmed up on the
bachelorette you probably kiss the bachelorette you're there for a couple weeks but you
weren't even there for 12 hours yeah and then you go into paradise and you're expected to kiss
somebody on a first date but that would never that wouldn't happen on the on the bachelorette you'd
get warmed up you get to know them a little bit more before you go into totally totally yeah usually
I mean like there's only like I don't know how many people Hannah Hannah how many how many of the
guys Hannah kissed on the first night but it was only like two or three of them like yeah and three
yeah and like that's like courageous that's super courageous so like it's kind of it was my
first night really in paradise and like I don't know I it was it was just being super nervous and
camera shy and I definitely started to warm up as the days went by and got more and more comfortable on
camera we saw yeah yeah you guys all saw and uh the whole mom thing i've just completely just kept
using it as advice i mean i love my mom but like it was she wouldn't really care no you know
it's funny like after all the episodes she'd be like you're so funny like you cracked me up blah blah
blah but it was never like why did you do this why did you do that and it's like i knew it but like at
the same time it's just it was an easy way for me to kind of cop out of doing something that
wasn't comfortable doing right away. I was going to say, were you just not, did you maybe not want
a kiss her? No, I did. I definitely did. I mean, no, it was a really fun date and like I really
enjoyed myself and Sydney was awesome. I just, I'm just very awkward. And I got put in a very
uncomfortable, awkward situation. If I would have kissed her, I feel like it would have been super
awkward. But you ended up kissing her. Yeah, I did. It ended up being good. Yeah, it's a huge
theatrics about it. It was great. If your mom had your
way. Who would she wanted you to be with in paradise? Yeah. It was Sydney for sure. My dad,
my dad texted me after the episode. He's like, you should have picked Sydney. I'm like,
why was that? I mean, obviously you get to see everything on TV, right? And like, Sydney is great.
She's super sweet. She, like, narrated the whole season. She never really talked bad about anybody.
And she was just very sweet and very kind. And like, you really got to see her personality as, as the,
the show developed.
Whereas with Bree, she came in late like myself.
So like we were both kind of like you didn't have a ton of personnel or a ton of like
we didn't have a ton of character building up to it.
So my parents saw Sydney all all beginning of the season and they're like, man,
she's really great what she is.
And they saw her more on Colton season too probably.
Right.
Exactly.
Exactly.
So I understood where they were coming from.
But like you all like there were conversations that Bree and I had that weren't shown on TV.
Right.
And it's just the nature of the beast.
They can't film everything and show everything.
So now you're living in Santa Monica and Bree and Sydney both live here in the L.A. area.
Yeah.
Would you rekindle with either one of them?
Yeah, I knew this was going to get asked.
I'm just super fortunate that they both don't hate me.
I'm actually friends with both of them.
And I'm super, super thankful for that.
So, like, as of right now, like, that's kind of I'm okay with the position I'm in where we're just both, like, all three of us are cool.
and friends and they don't hate me because I look like such an ass on television.
Am I allowed to say that, by the way?
Bad words?
Okay, cool.
You can't say the other bad words?
Okay.
We're pretty PG-13.
Okay.
What am I my mom to hear?
What are the top three requirements that you look for in a girl?
Yeah, confidence is definitely one of them.
Ambition.
I think that's really sexy of a woman.
Let's see.
Ambition comments.
Oh, and just being passionate about everything they do.
So never doing something that they're like half-assing something.
I said it again.
That feels good.
Ass.
Ass.
Ass.
Like, that's enough.
Bleep, bleep, bleep, bleep.
All right.
Now we're going to play Plead the Fifth.
Are you familiar with Andy Cohen's Plead the Fifth?
No.
Okay.
So I have a set of questions for you.
They are more challenging.
They're more salacious.
What is salacious, man?
I don't even know what that means.
What?
Salacious?
Causing drama.
Oh, like scandalous?
Oh, all right, cool.
Salacious.
I'll learn that today.
Now, you don't know how many questions I have here on my list, but you only have one time to plead the fifth, which means that you only have one question.
Oh, man.
All right.
Let's do it.
All right.
The first question, would Demi and Christian have gotten engaged this summer if they hadn't gone on Bachelor in Paradise?
No, I don't think so.
that's a lot of time they spent together you got to think like you're literally living with somebody
in paradise and you're put in very romantic situations so it's like a lot easier to expedite
relationships fantastic answer which bachelor in paradise can we get some music can we get some
yeah can we get some like dramatic music eust or is like we're like a good saxx i love a good
what oh man i'm drawn a blank on his name who's the famous saxophonist can i was going to say
Kenny Rogers.
Kenny G.
I don't know if that's the correct sound effect for this moment.
Yeah, this isn't like a romantic.
But I would say, I think that the saxophone is the least utilized.
Oh, my gosh.
It's so underrated.
Yep.
I love, like, house music.
And house music with, like, a good sax.
Oh, man.
I don't know if I ever heard sacks with house music.
There's some good, there's some good, like, tropical house with some sacks and it bumps.
But we must get to the question.
Okay.
Now that this music is bumping.
Which Bachelor in Paradise engaged couple from your season is least likely to make it to the altar?
Oh, oh man.
So there's three, there's three, right?
There's Dylan and Hannah, Demi and Christian, and Chris and Katie.
I mean, maybe Chris and Katie just because of the stuff that went down on the reunion.
I mean, that's what we've seen so far.
But obviously, I'm hoping for the best for both of them.
Okay. Next question.
I like it. I like it.
Ooh, I need a massage. This is like massage music right here.
Who from your season needs what we'll call a humbling experience?
A humbling experience?
I mean, I think it has to be Luke P.
I think he's actually done a great job of, just from social media and I hate that I'm like judging somebody's character off of social media.
But it seems like he's doing good for, like, the community.
And I think he just wants to get away from the spotlight.
So I think he has humbled after the show.
Again, I didn't really get to know the dude.
I saw what you guys saw on TV.
So just from that perspective, it seems like he's mellowed out and become a little more humble and stuff like that.
That question was too easy.
Who?
That question was too easy.
Okay.
Who from your Bachelor in Paradise season needs a humbling experience?
Oh, Bachelor in Paradise season
That needs a humbling experience
I actually don't know
So I'm gonna plead the fit
Just because I don't really know
Nobody seemed really full of themselves there
Darn it!
I came in, is there somebody I'm supposed to say?
No!
Oh, I mean, I was hoping
You would just give us some dirt
I honestly everyone's super cool
Everyone was really
I can't really think of anybody
You need to like simmer down
I came in late though
I didn't get to know everybody that well.
You're a very kind guy.
You pleaded your frith.
All right.
And now?
I bet they get way harder now.
You have one more.
Bree or Sidney, pick now.
You only have one more.
You only have.
Okay.
Breer or Sydney, pick right now.
I mean, I'd probably pick Sidney.
I've hung out with her more after the show.
Ooh, you've hung out with her.
Have you kissed?
Oh, here we go.
Sydney, after the show.
No, we have not kissed.
Really?
I literally put her furniture together earlier this week.
Oh, that's so sweet.
Yeah.
we're cool. I felt like I had to make it up to her because I felt like such an ass on
I just it was tough. Yeah, I just feel like I owe her one big time because I did I did make you know
which just wasn't nice the whole situation. I knew just like how do you come out of that
looking like a hero right? You can't like they're I don't know. Well what's really weird for me
is that they have you go through that row of ceremony where you pick somebody and then the next
morning they're like okay now break up yeah i know or you know they're like if you are not in the status
of possibly getting engaged after this then you must leave important conversations have already been
had i'm like i just gave my rose debris what i don't understand why that rose ceremony exists
it's like the third or fourth season in a row that happens i you to be honest with you i don't know
why anybody who comes in with like a couple days left is expected to like maintain a relationship
You know, I talked to Sydney.
This is like one of the things we talked about when I was fixing her furniture.
I asked her, I was like, you know, if, you know, had I picked you like that next morning, do you think like...
You would have had to leave anyway.
Yeah.
And she was like, to be honest with you, Matt, like, we both weren't ready for like the fantasy suites.
We were just getting to know each other.
So like it would have ended the same way like Brie and I ended.
I mean, obviously I like to think I wouldn't have been called shallow and like an ass.
But it would have...
There was no winning coming out of that.
Why were you called Chalo?
Well, I wasn't called Chale.
I was portrayed as shallow, which sucked.
It wasn't a good look.
I looked like such an ass-and-I'll be the first one to admit it.
Why do you think you looked like such an ass-a-old?
Because you picked Brio over Sydney and you had seemed to have had more of a relationship with Sydney?
Yeah, that's what it looked like for sure.
And obviously, I dropped the supermodel bomb like 5,000 times.
Like, dude, Matt, I remember watching you, be like, oh my gosh, Matt.
But just stop.
Just stop talking.
Same thing with the mom bit.
Like, you just get annoyed with yourself on television.
I just got so annoyed.
I, like, cringed watching myself.
Did Sidney reach out to you to ask for help with the furniture?
That's a great question.
So I'm good friends with Kirpah, who's her roommate.
Kerpa and I have spent a lot of time together.
We've done some trips and stuff together.
Have you kissed Kerpa?
No, we haven't kissed.
That's funny.
She has drawn on my socks, though.
She has this weird, like, her puppets thing.
We haven't kissed, but she has drawn on my socks.
She has drawn on my socks.
It's gotten to that level.
I think I actually have one right now.
She draws, like, smiley faces on them.
She does this curpuppets thing.
I don't know why I'm plugging it right now.
Is it on Instagram?
Can we watch the puppets?
I don't know.
She has this thing on Instagram.
She used, I don't know.
That's as far as we're going to go.
Furniture.
Yeah, so Kerpo is like, hey, do you have power drills and this and that?
I'm like, man, they think I have power drills.
Like, this is awesome.
So, of course, I like Amazon power drills to my house the next day.
So I bring over some drills and all this stuff.
And, yeah, I mean.
There's a lot about your character.
Well, it was a cool chance to hang out with Sydney after the show.
And Kerpa was just like, yeah, come over and help us build.
Like, Sydney used to put her bed frame together.
And it'll be a good chance for us to all hang out.
And I was like, yeah, of course.
So, I mean, they're only like 20 minutes away from me.
So it's, I'm like so, again, so fortunate that, like, I can still be.
friends with Sydney after everything that happened. She's, she's awesome. Um, so I'm,
I'm just very thankful of, of how everything's played out. Very nice. Now, you do have one more
question left on my list. Okay. Can't plead the fifth. And you can't plead the fifth. So do we
even need your, do let the, yeah, I'll do the music. Okay. It's like Lord of the Rings.
Does Blake wear lifts in his shoes? I am going to defend Blake right now. And I, so,
I used to work with a lot of podiatrists, foot doctors, with my last job.
So orthotics, they're naturally, they naturally make you taller.
So I don't know his foot situation, like if he needs it or not, but they, orthotics do make
your heels, like, stand out of your shoes because it gives you more arch.
So I'm thinking that's what it was.
It could give him, like, two inches?
I mean, like, I had a pair.
I hated wearing him because my heel felt like, I felt like I was going to walk out of my
shoes because they were they were they were I stopped wearing him but in his defense I'm pretty sure he
has like foot orthotics um that he wears to to like help his foot like help his foot structure
am I making this up was this not on the show and just a rumor that was yeah it's a rumor
so it wasn't on the show guys but like apparently there was a deleted scene as pretty much the
entire thing is a huge deleted scene because they can only show you know an hour and 40 minutes
an episode but there was a rumor that Blake wore lifts in his shoes to make him taller that
he's like really like six foot and he makes himself like six two or three anyway that's it and
poor Blake no we all think Blake is he's a good dude very lovely man he's a very he's very I feel
I reached out to him a lot after the show actually because he got wrecked just on social media
and I just had to talk to him about it made some screw ups but isn't a bad person yeah exactly
we all do unfortunately some of us do it on national television
All right, well, Matt, Donald, it's been a pleasure.
Yeah, thanks for having me.
Thank you so much.
Is there anything that you would like to plug or anything that you would like to get off your chest, given the platform?
No, not really.
I will say one thing.
I love you, Ashley.
I think you're awesome.
And I love the show.
I am so bummed that Ben's not here, though, because I know.
I have not been able to meet Ben.
And I have, like, I doubt he remembers this, but I have a funny story about the first time I, like, air quotes met Ben.
So on our cast, in like the finals weekend when we had to do all those bubble sheets and all that stuff, one of the things, as you remember, is like you walk in and all the producers are sitting in there.
So there's like 25, 30 of them.
So I walk in and like, I'm seeing the back of everyone's heads, right?
And I see a side profile of Todd.
Who is one of our very favorites.
Yes, he's one of the producers.
If you guys remember Goose and Crystal's wedding, he's the one with the sage, like walking around him.
So I walk by Todd really quickly.
nervous. I'm like, oh, like, I was going to say the ass word.
Oh, crap. Like, uh, Ben Higgins. What's up, dude?
No way. I walk by. I sit down in the chair that's in front of everyone and I look at him and I'm
like, a hard pause and I go, oh, God, you are, you're not Ben Higgins.
You're not Ben at all. Everyone starts dying. So I'm sitting there, like they're interviewing
me and then Megan Firestone comes up to me. She holds her phone up to my face and it's Ben
Ben Higgins on FaceTime and I'm like, no way. It's like a huge fan. I was like, did they do that
after you had this weird blunder with Todd?
Yeah, that's what.
They were like, let's get bet on FaceTime.
Exactly.
And it was just like, I doubt he remembers, man.
He probably gets a thousand FaceTime's a day.
I'm sure he remembers that if it was in the casting room.
It was.
Yeah, I was just like, oh my gosh, Ben Higgins.
I'm like, dude, what's up?
And like, I think the producers could kind of see that the star-struckness come out
of me and be like, oh, this is going to be great for television.
I think that they love it when they get guys who are fans of the show.
Guilty pleasure, for sure.
all right well you guys can follow old matt donald 22 on instagram yeah thanks for the plug
and come back anytime we really enjoyed having you yeah thanks ashley thank you guys all right bye
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We got two quick emails.
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She says, I have an idea.
Can you guys do an in-depth with Jessica Clark?
That would be Ben's girlfriend.
I would say that's totally up to Ben.
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Oh, she's so cute.
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Yeah. They're booked before they're even chosen to be the lead.
Mind-blown.
Well, you, that seems kind of, like, I feel like you could actually learn a lot about a person, but like I've always been like, wow, I respect. They didn't do the beach scene right off the bat. They went to like Switzerland. They're all in layers wearing jackets, scarves, hats, coats. You can't even see their faces. I respect that person. But now I don't even.
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Wow.
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