The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Over the (Honey)Moon with Clare Crawley and Ryan Dawkins

Episode Date: May 22, 2023

Ben and Ashley are sitting down for an exclusive interview with the Bachelor marriage that has EVERYONE talking. Clare Crawley and her new husband Ryan Dawkins are here and spilling intimate details a...bout their relationship. Find out how Clare feels finding love outside of Bachelor Nation, hear their plans together, and Clare reveals some major secrets from her time as The Bachelorette!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
Starting point is 00:00:25 Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect.
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Starting point is 00:02:13 It's a beautiful morning here at the Almost Famous Podcast. I am currently hosting this show alone. We did a great night last night at the Great Young concert. A lot of fun stayed up late at the bar. The whole team did, the staff, all everybody out here visiting us. My co-host has yet to awaken. So we did have a great night. She's just still sleeping, but we do have Clearing Ryan here with us this morning.
Starting point is 00:02:39 I'm super pumped to have both of you. Thanks for sitting down. Excited to be here with you. Yeah, definitely. Thank you so much. So I got to hear a little bit of your story last night. I want to start with just maybe getting some clarity. How did the two of you meet?
Starting point is 00:02:54 I feel like we said this. 14 times last night. That's all right. It couldn't be any more exciting than just sliding in the DMs. Ryan slid in the DMs and I guess just went from there.
Starting point is 00:03:06 So Ryan, I was talking to you because you did slide into the DMs. That's what I did. We both found love that way. So going back, why did you reach out to Claire? How did you know of her? What interested you in her?
Starting point is 00:03:21 So I'd never seen any of the bachelor or, better at shows and it was either Hulu or an ad reading some sort of news article and I came across a promo for her show in 2020 and I thought she was the most beautiful woman in the world and and and so I I was going through a split with my ex-wife during that time, or that summer, and then it took me about seven months to get up the courage to reach out to her. Claire, when you hear that, that he thought you were the most beautiful woman in the world, you just smiled.
Starting point is 00:04:15 You got so you got giddy, and we were talking about it, you know, We've been able to know each other really since the start of this show, six and a half years ago. So we've seen a lot of each other's lives progress. You just seem super, super happy right now. I am. Thank you. I am. And it's my phone ringing.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Sorry. I am. I am so much. And it always makes me feel so good. Like when I hear him talk to you about it, this is stuff that he told me since the beginning. And it's stuff that he tells me. every single day still and it still makes me smile like this so it's whether people around whether people aren't around like this is how he treats me and this is how he talks to me always and
Starting point is 00:05:00 it just is like forever makes my heart smile always you know chris harrison is with us right now and i remember even before i met you when i first got onto the show um you had just always stayed relatively friendly with a lot of the people that were working on the show and so they were always rooting for you or like, you know, they'd get a text from you and they would just talk about it openly. And it felt like you were close with them. They're all like, were your biggest fans. They were rooting for you to find love. Yeah. And so you went on these shows. You just, you came off of the show. You did your best to try to find love outside of the show and then back onto the show. And now, like, that story has closed, right? Of you trying to find love. You found it. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:05:47 What does it feel like to you now? Because for a while, we were, you know, we've all been in a place where we didn't know if any of us, if it would happen to for any of us. But now, you know, you have it. That's what love is though. It's, it's having, I guess, the courage to keep trying and keep trying and keep trying. And nobody says it works out the first time, like rarely does it. I mean, those people are so lucky. How does that go? But that's what love is, whether it's two times or over and over and over again. However you try to find somebody, whether it be in the casual environment, you don't give up after the first time. And I think, to me, I knew it was something that I wanted was marriage and I wanted relationship. And I wouldn't let that jade me or get the best of me or say, oh, I tried one time. That was my chance in trying. Even if it was on a show. To me, it was like, I'll keep trying until I get what I want and get the end result of what I want, of the feeling of what I'm. want. And I did. That's awesome. Well, tell me about your, your wedding. I didn't get to hear a lot
Starting point is 00:06:53 about this. You guys did get married. Was it like, was anybody there joining you watching? How did all play out? So we had these original plans of having two weddings. I wanted one that we wanted to have in Mexico. I wanted this big, great. We found this gorgeous spot. I wanted this huge celebration of a wedding of what the traditional wedding, I guess, is. And then I knew because my mom is in hospice that she wouldn't be able to fly down to Mexico, she can barely even get in a car at this point. And so I was like, well, I want to have a little mini celebration, especially for my mom that she can witness and be there and be a part of and then do the Mexico wedding. So we planned that and we were like, okay, let's just get
Starting point is 00:07:39 the first wedding out of the way. And my mom ended up getting a little bit sicker at that. it right at the end of January and so Ryan and I were like let's do it now let's do the wedding let's have it we know we're getting married let's just have a mini celebration and it was his daughters his parents two of my friends and then it was going to be my mom there and my mom it's hard to explain but she gets overwhelmed easily so good morning Ashley Ashley just Ashley just like it said are you guys coming Ashley just walked into Are you also a little late? No.
Starting point is 00:08:16 I said, are you guys coming? No. Really? So I thought there's other people that we were like, you know, hanging on. Just waiting. Just waiting on them. We're going to pause here. Ashley did wake up and make it to the podcast this morning.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Oh my God. You guys, it's 9.30, okay? It's not like you're making it seem like it's noon. Also, I was so, what? What are you laughing at? Because I tell you that I wake up late often. I feel like, though. laughing at anything other than you're so defensive.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Oh, okay. Well, guys, I feel unprofessional, especially since I was like, you know, I always set the alarm. And then for some reason, I was like, you're on Pacific time. I woke up at 7 and like, at 6 when we had the weird light thing. And then I was like, you don't have to say your alarm. I don't know why
Starting point is 00:09:01 I was defensive about setting my alarm. I don't know why I said, Ashley, don't open up your phone and just toggle those. I don't know. I think I was like trying to play a game with myself. And then Hana called me and it was the clock. It was 9.20. and I'm like, shut. I feel like you get a hall pass, though,
Starting point is 00:09:17 because you wake up every day through your baby. Well, I know. So this is the time where you're like, I don't have them with me right now. Like, do we want to be that mom that blames everything on the baby? No, like, I deserve it. I'm a baby.
Starting point is 00:09:28 It can be here. At least you're here, though. Thanks. Thank you. Did I miss like five minutes, 10 minutes? You, I don't know. Seven, seven minutes. So we were just talking about their wedding
Starting point is 00:09:41 and how the two of you, you really wanted your mom to, to experience it, but she couldn't get to Mexico. And so you would plan something here closer. So we planned something closer. And it was, we had just planned a tiny little intimate one because she gets super overwhelmed easily with more than a couple people. So it gets very confusing with her because she has dementia. So it just was his family, my family, you know, my two best friends.
Starting point is 00:10:10 And we planned this little thing. And we planned it out in the, this little garden at the state capital. And that's where we had our first kiss. We're like, oh, it would be cute to have it there. And it was just a beautiful thing. And we ended up having this mini little wedding. My mom actually ended up getting really, really sick. And so she couldn't even leave her home.
Starting point is 00:10:32 And so we had the mini celebration anyway. And then afterwards, we went to In-N-Out Burger and then went to visit her and celebrated with her. And it was the most perfect wedding. We left there and I was like, that's everything I ever wanted out of a wedding. To feel the way I feel, to enjoy it and to be able to share that with my mom was like the most special thing. And so I was like, we can have a party another time and like a reception another time, but that was everything I wanted and needed out of a wedding.
Starting point is 00:11:02 So we kind of were like, let's just scratch the second one because this is, we have other more important things I guess going on right now and that was perfect. Listen, if you think it's perfect, scratch the second one. You don't want to have any memory that's not perfect. Yeah. It's just, to me, weddings, and I love going to them. I think they're beautiful. I love dancing.
Starting point is 00:11:22 I love enjoying them. Everything about them is amazing. I don't think planning them is exciting. It's really extremely stressful. Even thinking about planning it was the second one was stressful to me, to us. And by nature, Ryan is an event planner. So he was like, I got this. And he planned the first one.
Starting point is 00:11:40 He got the car. He got, I mean, the location. I mean, he's secured everything. And it was, it was, came in clutch because I was kind of paralyzed and like, just want this for my mom. And I never thought that moment would be able to happen that she'd be able to just see me get married. And she did, which is cool. I mean, she didn't watch me, but she was there that day. And we celebrated, she saw me in a dress.
Starting point is 00:12:05 Yeah. What was her reaction when she saw you in the dress? She just was smiling so big. And she kept looking at her wedding picture. which is on the wall of her and my dad. It was really special. So we have a picture of her and her picture with her and my dad. And then it was with Ryan and us in the picture.
Starting point is 00:12:24 So really special. And that was actually the day that she met Ryan's daughters. And they were so sweet to my mom. And just it was really, really sweet. How did the introduction to Ryan and your mom go? Ryan's always been an angel to my mom. and even the other day like I'm the one I usually go weekly to go visit her back in Sacramento and the other day he's like can we go for Mother's Day can we go see her mom because I haven't
Starting point is 00:12:50 seen her in a while like he makes the effort and has always made the effort to go see her and loves being around her and he's just super gentle with her and sincere and it's been the greatest it's been the greatest I know it's not an easy thing to deal with to come into a relationship with somebody whose mom is dying or has dementia. and you don't really know what to deal with or how to deal with it. But he's just been always so gentle with my mom. It's been amazing. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other But I just want her gone Now hold up, isn't that against school policy
Starting point is 00:13:46 That sounds totally inappropriate Well according to this person This is her boyfriend's former professor And they're the same age And it's even more likely that they're cheating He insists there's nothing between them I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person
Starting point is 00:13:59 To believe him because he now wants them both to meet So do we find out if this person's boyfriend Really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale Listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips.
Starting point is 00:14:16 And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free Eye Heart Radio.
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Starting point is 00:15:41 Hey, sis, what if I could promise you you never had to listen to a condescending finance, bro? Tell you how to manage your money again. Welcome to Brown Ambition. This is the hard part when you pay down those credit cards. If you haven't gotten to the bottom of why you were racking up credit or turning to credit cards, you may just recreate the same problem a year from now. When you do feel like you are bleeding from these high interest rates, I would start shopping for a debt consolidation loan,
Starting point is 00:16:05 Starting with your local credit union, shopping around online, looking for some online lenders because they tend to have fewer fees and be more affordable. Listen, I am not here to judge. It is so expensive in these streets. I 100% can see how in just a few months you can have this much credit card debt when it weighs on you. It's really easy to just like stick your head in the sand. It's nice and dark in the sand. Even if it's scary, it's not going to go away just because you're avoiding it. And in fact, it may get even worse.
Starting point is 00:16:33 For more judgment-free money advice, listen to you. to Brown Ambition on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. You know, in your life, there has been an interesting change because you've been caring for your mom, sitting beside your mom for years and kind of doing it, you know, alone in a lot of ways, just processing a lot alone. What has it been like now having a partner to bounce your emotions off of and your feelings off? of, and also making the effort to go and spend time as well. Ryan is amazing in that way where he, are you asking me that, right?
Starting point is 00:17:13 Okay, yeah. He's been, always made me feel like, however I feel, it's okay. And if I'm having a really crappy day and struggling, he's just, I know, and I've got it, I understand, and very just accepting and loving of whatever emotions I have. Because going through this and going through the hospice and dealing with dementia is it's one of the hardest things ever. There's so many ups and downs. There's so many what ifs and you don't know what's going on. And he just has been very patient with it.
Starting point is 00:17:50 And I think it's a testament not only to what kind of man he is, but also what kind of father he is because he's that way with his girls and his daughters. And that's what attracted me to him was how gentle he is and compassionate he is. He's like the best girl dad you can ask for, you know. So he's just, he knows somehow how to handle it. Ryan, it is where I want to go is you are a proud girl dad. You, it sounds like an incredible dad. Can you share a little bit about, you know, your daughters and what they're up to and what it's been like, you know, joining everybody together? It's been pretty amazing.
Starting point is 00:18:26 Claire is the absolute best bonus mom you could ever ask for. the girls are 12 and 10 so my youngest will be 10 in a month this is crazy and it's been it's it's definitely been wild so we just moved into our new house about 50 days ago and the girls absolutely love it and they love Claire and it's been we so I have a tradition with both of them that since there were three, we would take them to a San Francisco Giants game. And it's always been just me and one of the girls. And we get a jersey with their name on the back.
Starting point is 00:19:09 And then the number is their age that year. And just this just is the greatest thing ever. And so Claire went for the very first time to that. And so instead of two, we made it three. And then we're doing the same thing for the youngest in June. And this is something that when they're, away at college, they'll fly in and go to their birthday day game.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Oh, yeah. And so that was a huge thing for us. I think right now they're at the point of like, dad, why do we have to go? Oh, yeah. But they'll appreciate it. Oh, yeah. But they generally, I mean, they get pulled out of school, the hall passed to get out of school. I think they love it.
Starting point is 00:19:49 And I think just to be able to look back and know that their dad is like, did this every year with them and the other jerseys, it's building those traditions. Like, he thinks about those kind of things always. Well, this is Ryan's first podcast. We're really thankful that you guys came. Thanks for hanging out. Thanks for being here. Thanks for sharing this story with us. Very excited for Claire and you, Ryan. And it's just great to see you in person and not see it over social media because you can be really happy for somebody over social media. But when you see it in person, it makes the world warmer. And we're happy for the two of you. Okay, close up. What's next for the two of you? Final question. What's going to go on? What's the next stages? in life, what's life looking like? Give us an exclusive of some sort. We could use a headline. The exclusive is, I don't know what, the exclusive is, I don't know, Claire is finally at
Starting point is 00:20:41 peace. I mean, I feel like for so long, the world has seen me just fight and fight and fight and be this like, I'm like determined and somehow it's been kind of like, at least this is how I feel twisted into this like, God, she is this like, be woman, you know, and she's this demanding woman. But I feel like for so long it's been that, like I felt on guard for so long and protective of my happiness and fighting for that. But I feel like this stage of my life is peace.
Starting point is 00:21:14 This stage of my life is happiness. And this stage of my life is like calmness. And whatever the next step is, I'm not trying to control it. It comes when it comes. that looks like, I'm just happy being. And I think that hasn't been a thing for a long, long, long time. It was always fighting for whatever it is. Even in the best of ways, it was like fighting for my happiness, fighting to get to this place, fighting for what I want. And finally now this phase is just accepting everything and sitting back and being like, this is everything I've ever
Starting point is 00:21:50 dreamt of. And I couldn't ask for anything more. Ryan, how do you feel? feel and you hear things like that. It is the greatest feeling ever. You guys, where's the camera? I know the camera's there. We need on them. Who cares about us? They are seriously the sweetest to watch.
Starting point is 00:22:10 His hand is always on her. And I love it. It's just so comforting and secure. Like your security is like visual when I'm around. I can feel it and see it. Thank you. I feel it like I said every single day. And it's I fall asleep with his hand.
Starting point is 00:22:25 on my leg or, you know, and I wake up and he's, you know, doing this to my face. And it's just, it's the most opposite of any relationship I've ever had in the best ways possible. I thought I knew what relationships were like, but it was just this skewed perception of coming out of bad relationships and the wrong relationships. And so when finally the good one happened, I'm like, that's new. That's new. And I keep, he'll do normal things. And I'm like, I've never had that before. So I'm re-learning what a good relationship looks like, and sometimes it's challenging,
Starting point is 00:23:01 and sometimes it's like, what is that? I've never known that. And then now I'm finally at the place where I'm like, this is what it's supposed to feel like, this is what it's supposed to be like, and I love it. Don't stop, you know? I always think of Claire as like the definition of like femininity in womanhood. She's just the perfect combination.
Starting point is 00:23:20 This sounds like the quote from crazy stupid love. You're just the perfect combination of, strong and soft. You agree. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I think the world has seen a lot of my strong. And now Ryan gets to enjoy the soft, you know?
Starting point is 00:23:38 All right. Well, thank you guys so much. You're seriously the sweetest. I'm just so glad to, like, see this in front of us. Oh, thank you guys for having us. All right. Well, until next time, I've been Ashley. And I've been Ben.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcasts on IHeartRadio Or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly And now I'm seriously suspicious Wait a minute Sam Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit Well Dakota, luckily it's back to school week
Starting point is 00:24:10 On the OK Storytime podcast So we'll find out soon This person writes My boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot He doesn't think it's a problem But I don't trust her Now he's insisting we get to know each other But I just want her gone
Starting point is 00:24:22 Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble.
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