The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Party Like It’s 2025

Episode Date: January 16, 2025

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Hey there, folks. This is I do part two, the podcast where if you got love right, the first time, you need to go ahead and stop listening. right now, because this podcast ain't for you. It's for those of us who didn't get love right the first time, or maybe the second time. There's some who didn't get it right the third or the fourth. That's okay. We are here for the folks who have not given up on love and still have hope of getting it right. We are a couple of your hosts. I'm T.J. Holmes. And I'm Amy Robach. And yeah, it's a new year. It's 2025, which means there are new trends in dating. Did you know that, TJ? I didn't know. Well, I'm not dating, but if you think I need to use it,

these, that these will come in handy. I am now listening. No, no, no, no. But we are there for you, for those of you who are dating. You're single. You're ready to mingle. You want a couple up. It's cuffing season, all those things. So that's new, right? For some people, some people are newly single, are they not? That's true. That's true. The new year can bring a lot of new opportunities. It could close some chapters and some old love. So yeah, a lot of people are starting anew and they've got a new, energized excitement about finding that person, that soulmate, that soulmate? Yeah, the love of your life. Yeah. Isn't everybody looking for the loves of their life? Yeah. And look, this is an opportunity.

This is actually for a lot of people, they're single voluntarily. This isn't just a matter. We talk so often about people looking for somebody and I can't find. Well, a lot of people are very happy right now to be single. And it happens a lot. Uncoupling happens around the holiday. right? You're looking for a new opportunity. It's New Year's Eve. I don't want to kiss your toe up ass again. And so, yes, people are starting the new year and we wanted to pass along some of these new dating trends who could help you on your journey, right? So the first one, and this is interesting, we're told one of the new dating trends of 2025 is the return of romance. I didn't know it went away. But apparently many folks are embracing

romantic gestures and a significant number of you identify as a romantic. Would you say you are a romantic, TJ? Well, I don't think that's for me to say. Is it for you? Is it not? I would. I like gestures. I like simplicity. I like, I guess you could call it old school, just a simple sending flowers when it's not the birthday or it's not Valentine's Day. It's just a random Wednesday and I wanted to say I love you or I miss you. Those types of gestures, I suppose, are romantic, but the, I love that idea. I get caught up in it as well, but unfortunately it's not the reality for so many people. And some people seem to think that's like, those are outdated. I don't think they are at all. And you are a romantic, by the way, and you are good at that.

And I definitely would identify as a romantic as well. I like all the little small gestures. I like those small reminders, a note that just says, I love you, you know? Or a little meme. We have our little memes that we send each other. Okay, so this is key now. When you talk about being a romantic, it was always a matter of a gesture that the guy does for you. Is there anything a woman can do as a romantic? Can you be a romantic but be giving it?

I would absolutely say so. Well, how so? What can women do? It is that same notion of saying, I love you, of sending you. of sending you something or reminding someone throughout the day when it's unexpected that I'm thinking of you or I can't wait to see you, those types of things. And I mean, you can go as much as if you've been in a longer relationship, setting up a date or creating an experience gift where you say we're going to go somewhere together. We're going to do something. We're going to

date each other. I think we take each other for granted sometimes. So yeah, those are all romantic gestures, I feel like. Anyway, apparently Bumble is predicting 55% of women in the United States, this year will proclaim themselves as romantics. I'm surprised it's 55%. You think it's low or high? Yeah, I think it's low. Low, uh-oh. Yeah. I mean, I maybe I only know the world through my own lens, but it just seems like

more women than not. Yeah. What does that you say? No, you say chivalry is dead. Yeah. Not romance. You say chivalry is dead. Yeah, randos aren't holding the door open or letting women leave the elevator first or get into the subway car first. Yeah, that's dead. Another trend, intentional connections.

So singles are moving away from swiping left or right and just kind of seeing what happens, but focusing on finding that deeper, more meaningful relationship, an intentional connection, not a situationhip. I'm rolling my eyes because I tune out every time I hear deeper, more meaningful connections and relationships. Why? Because you have me watching all these damn love islands of the world and all these dating shows where every time, I hear it all the time,

I'm looking for a deeper connection. I want something more meaningful. Yeah, she's hot. Did you see that? It's, so I kind of tune out. What does that even mean? I get what it means. I suppose what it's supposed to mean.

But is that really? I think it means it's not just about sex. Oh, is that what is supposed to? I mean, more meaningful and not swipe based? Yeah, because swipe base is like what you're doing right now. It's the booty call, kind of like the accepted booty call, right? It's not a booty call apps.

It can be. They're not booty. Are there booty call apps? I think so. It depends on what time of day you're swiping left or right. But I think a lot of younger folk, and I just can only speak,

even from what I'm hearing from my daughter, who's in her early 20s and their friends, I'm not looking for a relationship. I just want a situation ship. I just want to have fun. So I think the point is this year people are maybe pivoting and saying, you know what?

Enough of that, you know, just surface stuff or sex stuff. But I actually want someone who's my best friend who I can go do this with or talk about that with. And so, yes, the deeper connection versus just the sex stuff. And every time we've had a conversation with someone about this, they end up going back, well, where am I supposed to meet these people? I can't find, I can't get to know anybody because of this and that.

And it ends up being so often what they're talking about here, a swiping or dating app. But this is challenging. It's easy to say it, but it is from our experience in doing this podcast, very challenging. I think a lot of women feel like they're ready for it, but they can't find the man who's ready for that, who wants to have, who's looking for a long time or a long-term partner or a life partner. I think from what I've heard, that's always been the struggle. So the dating apps are tough because usually the thought is that a lot of men are on there for one reason and one reason only. And what's a micromance? A micromance, this is a trend.

Oh, this is what I was kind of talking about. that emphasizes those small, meaningful interactions rather than grand gestures. And you know this is my language because I cannot stand the big gestures like, look at me doing something for you. I'm bringing balloons to work in front of everybody because I'm the best boyfriend of the year. Or, you know, look at me, giving you this. It just, I feel like it's self-serving. Like sometimes these big grand gestures are kind of more about the person making the gesture

than the person they're giving it to. look at what a good partner I am and the small little ones where you might not get the big add-a-boy or the big thing but like okay you you making dinner and then cleaning the dishes and I'm like oh my god I come in and I'm thinking he just made dinner and did the dishes that is so sweet that is so amazing and that is such an unbelievable recognized micro gesture that you didn't have to do that I didn't ask you to do but you did it anyway and that that That would be an example. Well, some would argue, yeah, he's supposed to help out anyway.

He's supposed to cook. He's supposed to clean. But to your point, usually the guy isn't often doing it. Right. Well, if you cook and clean, that is above and beyond. And I think those are the moments, you know, it's true, though. And just it's the little things that aren't for everyone else. They're just for your partner.

And even if you don't get a thank you or a recognition, you know you did something sweet for your partner. I love that. You made me think of something here. It was your parents were here, and Elise was coming back. Sabina and I had to go to L.A. Yeah. I wanted to, while we were gone, I wanted to send you flowers.

Aw. I didn't. Because you didn't want my parents to see? I didn't want anybody to think I was trying to do something to be impressive while other people. I actually didn't send you flowers because I didn't want to be seen as the guy doing it for a grand gesture. And I wanted to see. And I appreciate that. I didn't.

I actually appreciate that because I totally get that. You weren't doing it so that my people. parents think, wow, what a great guy Amy has. I do think that it matters your intention if it's just to make somebody smile, not for everyone else to see. I love that. So I'm a huge fan of this. But tell your parents that, you didn't get flowers because of them.

But it's so funny, I totally get, I get that. And I support that. Date with me. This is silly. This is not. Okay, and I shouldn't say silly to each his own or her own. Maybe it's because we're older. And we didn't grow up on social media

And we didn't take people along with us On our journeys to whatever we're doing Well, there's two different things Okay If you take them along your journey on social media Yeah That's one thing I thought it was meaning like

We're literally bringing somebody along Can you be my buffer? No, no, no, I get that actually I totally get that I need a wing woman No, date with me Singles bringing others along For their romantic journey

Sharing the ups and downs Of their love lives through social media And so people are actually turning their journey into finding someone, their romantic escapades, into content. And so then their followers are weighing in. They're either cheering or they're booing. But see, here's what the problem is with that for me is that once you invite people along your journey, they get to say whatever they think about it. And that can absolutely impact your decision on what you do next. And not everybody gets it just because they see a video you posted or a picture you posted. So I think it's a little

dangerous kind of, it's almost like you're letting people weigh in. And I know that's part of what this podcast is. So I don't want to, I don't want to like, I think that's great if you're open to the peanut gallery saying whatever they think. For me, that's a little tough. My problem is you let them in from the beginning, but when does it end? At some point, you know, you're feeding them. Like, you have no excuse six months, eight months, year and a half later to say, well, I want some privacy, or don't talk to me about my breakup, or give us a moment. You don't have, I'm speaking of it as if it's a public figure, but no, just you do that and now you've got to let everybody into the pain. How much do you give them along the way?

It's easy when things are going great, when things are fun and exciting, when things are interesting, but when things actually get personal and problematic, which they always will, every single relationship, then it becomes a little trickier. And we only know this because we've spent our professional lives in front of the camera. And that has invited a camera or a lens, so to speak, into our personal lives. And it can, it cuts both ways, people. It cuts both ways. So just know what you're getting into. My other issue here. Oh, what's your other issue? The other person? Would you want to date somebody who's putting all of it out there? So I thought that too. Everybody in the world, give me your opinion about this guy.

And do you want to be that guy? Oh, my gosh. So you're limiting who would date you because a lot of folks wouldn't date you knowing that they're about to be talked about. You have to tell them, commented about, I would think that would be the right thing to do. And if you didn't, and they found out later, that would be another problem altogether. So you have to find the person who's willing to be on that journey with you. That's interesting. Hey, to each is on. Our girl, Kelly Binsimon. Yep. She's doing this. She's essentially letting people go along on the journey while she's dating. And there are plenty of people who love the idea of it, who like the attention and like the excitement of having people come on the ride with them.

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We can get it. This is another trend. These are designed to create exciting. and joy moving beyond traditional dating experiences. The example we're given is going to an escape room. Does a theme park, like going to ride carolacostas? I think so. That would count, right?

Yeah. What about going to see a horror movie? Well, that's a, well, for us. That's a dopamine kick for us. See, I hate the idea of going to a movie on a date, because you can't talk. That's true. I love going to movies with you now because you can't talk.

It took a second. y'all should see her face y'all should see her face i can still lean over and whisper use that one for the social clip i can lean over and whisper her face because when we're watching it on the couch at least you have a rewind button and i use it a lot and i refuse to do subtitles so i can't read what's happening so i pause sometimes you will be talking for five minutes and then you look up oh you stop the movie but anyway and and i'm always grateful because i missed it too because I was talking. No, but another dopamine date, what would it be, what could we do that would be a dopamine date? Would it be jumping out of, we talk about skydiving. Oh, we tried to go paragliding.

Remember, that would have been a dopamine date. And it was too windy. The winds were too high. We kicked up too much. We were going to blow away. So we didn't do it. Yeah, that would, we, that wouldn't, we haven't done anything like that. No, but we, I want to. And you, you're into that. Oh, we've written on a motorcycle together. That could be a dopamine date. It was my motorcycle. Yeah, but I'm totally trusting you. Like, I'm putting my life into your hands. It's a commuter vehicle. That wasn't a date.

We just need to get from one place to another. Well, we do have plans to take the motorcycle out to go hiking. That would be a dopamine date. That's not dopamine. Okay, fine. We can call it whatever you want to call it, my love. All right. The next trend that we're seeing in 2025 is niche dating.

So we've all heard that opposites attract, but that's not always the case. Bumbles survey found that for 46% of singles sharing interests, especially niche interests that others might consider strange or even creepy is what they really want. And I get that because if someone else is sharing the weird that you have in you, that's a bond that works, I think. And horror movies, that would be the best way.

Because people think we're crazy for going to see those things. But this is strange or even creepy. Well, some people would say going to horror movies and loving horror movies the way we do is Stranger Creepie. People have questioned, maybe even members of my own family, have questioned my fascination with the abomination

that why do you want to go watch something that is filled with, you know, terror and sometimes torture and sometimes gore? Like you're like I have been judged as being strange. For real, I don't just like horror movies. I

love horror movies. And we bonded over that. You don't have to explain that to me, but when we talk about niche dating you have to find someone that's into like what kind of like Pokemon yeah that's niche dating that's niche dating or like comic con like if you like if you like to dress up and i like or or that kind of thing like people who both like to do um role playing that kind of thing okay so if i wanted to go to one of these things uh comic comicon and say hey i want to be mr incredible and you'd be Elastic girl. Were you good?

No. Not for me. That's not my niche dating. I'm trying to think if there's something else. What else is there? Our super producer sitting in to it. What else would there be? Renaissance.

Oh, Renaissance. Yeah. Yep. Yep. That's a really good. What's the furries thing? The where they dress. Furries.

Furries. Renaissance. Yeah. But I do. That kind of thing makes sense because if that's your, that's what gets you going. You need to probably have somebody. Or it would be helpful. You have to.

Yeah, otherwise. Sweetheart, if I put on a big bear costume and say, hey, sweetheart, I'll be back at six. I don't think that's going to work for us. Not for long anyway. Everybody do your thing. That's not what we're saying. But if someone is that, that's just not necessarily. Right.

I think you need to find your person who also enjoys said strange interest. Yes, that makes total sense. but the i what are we uh very early on in the year now and there would seem like so much last year there was a lot of celebrity i guess the main unless just do this we talk about jalo and ben was the big that was our big breakup we were we were really upset we were so so rooting i was holding on to the last second until they said the um they asked the judge to sign off on the divorce even then you were you believed you believed that maybe someone was going to back out of I sent a letter to the judge asking him to not sign off on their divorce.

I know. We were rooting for them. Always rooting for love. But sometimes rooting for someone, rooting for a person means also saying that sometimes you're better off not together. You know what? And that is the truth. That is true.

This was one, obviously, we talk about J-Lo and Ben here, that that was one, a story, a love story that's 20 plus years going and we talk about the movies she made. with him and them and all that. You're just like, wow, love is amazing and how life works and given our experience and what we went. Like, wow, you could relate to how that could possibly be and then for it not to work out.

I'm still hoping they'll get back together a third time. Who's to say? I mean, if they could wait 20 years and maybe they just need for their stars to not be shining so brightly, the pressure, the public pressure of a public romance is real and it's tough and it's not...

You feeling it? Well, oh, it's getting so much better. I felt it for... Oh, the first year was really hard. Pressure. Oh, the public pressure to stay together or the public pressure of just being a couple. Oh, just being a couple.

I don't feel it as much now. I did as I did a year ago, for sure. And it does add to stress levels because you feel like you're being watched, you feel like you're being talked about. You feel like, yeah, there's pressure associated with that. it out. But in that sense, I feel like maybe even more so than not, you root for public

couples because you want them to make it because it's hard. It's hard already. And adding fame and all of that pressure to it is just tough. But we already have some big celebrity breakups. And the one that was shocking to me, and I think to a lot of folks, was Jessica Alba and Cash Warren. They just announced they are separated. They are separated. after 16 years of marriage. They have three kids together, and they were always on the red carpets together with their family. However, if you go back, just even last year,

Jessica might have been hinting at it in a couple of her interviews. There was one in particular where she was talking about. She basically said, and again, this is someone who had been married at this point to 15, 16 years, after two and a half years of marriage, it's just like we became roommates. That's tough. Maybe she said it in jest.

Maybe it was just, was just being funny. I think she might have been paving the road. She might have been preparing the road or preparing her fans for what was to come. Maybe she had a bad day that day. It was a bad marriage day that day. I think we all have them. After two and a half years and she's 16 years into it. You can have it after two months have a bad marriage day. She said it was that she described her marriage as you're just going through the motion. It's the responsibility. It's a lot of like checking the boxes. Okay. That didn't sound funny. It's not. And I know, but the thing is I think a lot of people can relate to that a lot. And it's not that you can't work through that.

And a lot of people would say, hey, the magic can come back. You're in the thick of it with your kids. They have three kids. But you know what? I applaud them because I would, having been in this situation, sometimes the right thing to do is to separate, the right thing for the kids even, to show them how. And it seems like they're doing it amicably and responsibly.

And it's not easy. And it's not what anybody wants. But sometimes it is the best thing for everybody. And I think it's important to remember that. All right. This is next. Who is Brandon Ralph? Brandon Ralph and Courtney Ford. They're divorcing after 17 years of marriage. And if you don't know, Brandon is a Hallmark Channel alum. He rose to fame playing The Man of Steel on Superman Returns. And then Courtney is a Dexter alum. And if folks don't remember, and I hate to put this in there, but he was the Superman that didn't really work out. This wasn't too terribly long ago. I'm not knocking him. He has the look, good-looking guy. And I thought he'd did great in the movies. I'm a big fan of all these, but he's that guy. He only got one run,

I think, as Superman and as Man of Steel. You know what? Here's the thing about, which is really tough. They were, we can talk about this. They were forced, basically, to confirm to the world that they were divorcing because someone outed them, an online publication announced that this was happening before they were able to, and it happened while the Los Angeles, why, wildfires were going on. So, um, it's, Courtney actually put this out because she needed to. We were focused on grabbing our go bags and evacuating. And it feels ridiculous to post the statement. It was a statement that they were separating with the fires still raging, but an online publication announced our news before we could. Damn, we know what that's like.

And it's unfortunate. Um, that one stings a lot. Um, anybody who has gone through a divorce, even a breakup. Well, let's go with divorce in particular. And you got kids involved. It's one of the worst things that you will ever experience is going through that divorce. Even if it's amicable sometimes,

just the pain of you have to look in your kids' faces and say, this is, mom and daddy aren't going to be together. It's just hard. I hate this, the idea that all that's going on. So you got a divorce going on, trying to get your kids okay, and you're on the run.

And now this publication decides to out the, most difficult part of your personal life. Man, that sucks. It actually makes me physically angry for them on behalf of them because it's just, even if you are a public figure and you are a celebrity and you make your living doing so, it doesn't mean you don't have a right to a private life. And I think when you're juggling so much, even put the fires aside, they're managing their kids, they're managing their families, their friends. Telling people you're getting divorce is one of the most difficult things to do. And yes, it starts with your kids,

but it's also your parents, your siblings, your shared friends. All of this is incredibly painful. And to have someone force your hand and you have to say it, or at least acknowledge it when you weren't ready to, a lot of folks want to get their divorce finalized. They want to have all their ducks in a row before they then announce it. And I know that's where our heads were in our situations. And when someone forces your hand, and it's just, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a trauma on top of a trauma that's unnecessary my next divorce i'm going to announce it immediately i am going to be the first i mean the moment it's going to be out there so quick so quick lesson learned next couple deafening silence deafening silence from me uh yes i know you were

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Have you heard about Icon Venus Williams' recent wild card bids? Or the young Canadian, Victoria Mboko, making a name for herself? How about Naomi Osaka getting back to form? To hear this and more, listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain, an IHeart women's sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. Hi, my name is Enya Eumanzor.

And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psycho babble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you.

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this was another one Craig Conover and Paige de Sorbo this was a a Bravo sphere crossover and a lot of folks were rooting for them Craig was from Southern Charm page was from Summerhouse but they broke up this isn't a divorce this was just a breakup and I'm not trying to minimize that because it's still significant but they were dating long distance for three years page was in New York Craig was in Charles and South Carolina which as long distance goes that's some would say that's manageable yes because yes it's a quick plane ride it's a it's a two hour plane ride and 12 hour I should know the drive what's the I think it's 12 or 13 hours yeah but that that it's not really drivable but that's tough

when you have to pick weekends and in really manage your time like that that's tough I drive that far for you every weekend if I needed to you would that's very sweet of you God I don't have to I was like, and that will never have to be proven. Never get tested. But, you know, speaking of long distance, it's funny, my mom, they never were in a long distance relationship, but my dad traveled, she would say, and I think my dad would, too, 50% of their marriage before he retired. And they've been married, how long?

Well, I'm 51, so they have been married for 52 years. They figured out the key to marriage. So my mom said the key to their marriage was being apart 50% of the time, because that allowed them to each kind of have their own time and then miss each other and then come back together. So some people say that works really, really well for them. Then we're doomed because we spend every waking moment together. We have a no distance relationship. No at all. At all. At all. You're, I mean, even when your showers go a little long, I'm like, where is she? I know. I know. I think we spent so much time as friends missing each other.

that now we're just so excited to be together, that we actually get to be together and we choose to be together. But that has come after a lot of time and a lot of, yeah, I think, longing. So that does create a different, I think, relationship or dynamic to begin with going into it. Could you manage this relationship if we only got to spend time together once every two weeks? I would if I had to, but it wouldn't be my choice. And it wouldn't be something I would say helped our relationship. I think we would deal with it and we would manage it.

But there could be silver linings. I mean, there is that thing. I mean, when we're apart for a day or two, I really miss you. That's the silver lining? That's only happened like three times in the last. In the last two and a half years, I think we've only been apart a couple days. Like seriously, that's it. Maybe two or three days here or there.

and it's it is nice to know that I miss you like crazy but could you do that for 20 years is the thing we're talking about Cheryl Lee Ralph here who's someone we absolutely adore um she just exudes just grace and we love her we absolutely love from um abad elementary aban elementary and she yeah she got a long career stage career but she has said she has been married and going back and i say going back and but living in a long-distance marriage for 20 years. Look at this. He's where? Pennsylvania. And she is? She's in Los Angeles. That's tough. That's tough. I think that's really hard. I think it depends on your relationship and there is value in all sorts of different types of relationships. We just happen to be best friends. And I think that's a little bit of a different

relationship. You can have, and a lot of these, it also depends on your individual personality. I know you do like alone time. I don't know when you get it. I don't love alone time, so I'm really happy in this relationship. Here's the deal. I do like alone time when I'm with people who I don't want to be around. So the point being is you are somebody who I want to be around, so I don't ever need to or want to be alone here or there. I can be, though.

You can be alone. I just appreciate it because I have for the past 30 years had so little of it. Just been working in the business. You're just constantly, even you take a work trip. I'm surrounded by people and I just, whenever I get a chance to eat a meal alone to just sit on the couch and it's just me, I do appreciate it. I think that's great. And I think that you have to have a lot of trust. And that's a beautiful thing. So Cheryl Lee Ralph is one. Judith Light from Who's the boss. You remember her. I grew up watching her. I didn't realize this. She's been in a long-distance marriage with her husband of 39 years. Judith resides in your. New York. Her husband is in Los Angeles.

That's tough. It's very tough. She says they talk every day. I would hope so. 30 years. They face time every day. But her quote is, he loves to be alone and I love to be alone. We both love our alone time. We have that. It's also very creative for us. So, I mean, I guess that makes sense. If you know who you are, and again, there's a huge level of trust and respect, and it works. And perhaps if they live together, it wouldn't. That's the key. There are things that work for this couple that might. might not work for this one. There is no one size fits all. To me, to hear a long distance relationship for that long, I can imagine. And I would never want to sign up for that. But for

them and to hear it works, it's kind of cool. Yeah. And then this was a little, I don't really know how to interpret this next relationship that's a long distance relationship, but maybe it isn't anymore. China Phillips and Billy Baldwin. They recently met headlines when they explained it like this. They said they were living separately because of an allergy to one another. You're allergic to your spouse. That's a big problem because I don't think Claritin's going to fix that. I think they were being funny. I think so too. I'm allergic to this dude. I don't want be around them. They have an allergy to the person. And she might have been, that might have been a sweet, a cute way of saying, you know, we're having problems right now. So after I guess there was a lot

of backlash for saying that, and by the way, they've been together. They've been husband and wife for nearly 30 years. So she said they had an allergy to one another and we're living in separate homes. But then she says, wait a minute, I'm retracting that comment. And I am now saying that is probably a very foolish, very unwise, very destructive, stupid decision, because that's not going to solve our problem with the allergy. With the allergy. So meaning they have some problems they need to work out. And perhaps living in separate homes is not the way to solve those problems. So now she is saying that they do live together. 30 years, they're doing something right.

Yeah. And I also feel like, you know what? She doesn't have to explain herself. I have to remind myself, you don't have to explain yourself and your choices with your partner or your husband or wife to anyone else if it's working for you. Well, you say that. I know. I mean, you have to explain it to one another.

No, no, no. I was making a joke about us having to. Oh. Yeah. Yeah, we kind of did. Yeah. Well, I think we were trying to not have to and that didn't work and it blew up in our basis, so then we actually had to go ahead and explain. Yeah. Yeah, I hear you. All right. Well, look,

2020, already. Not far in, but it's given us a lot, including some dating trims. We've got some breakup news. Hopefully we don't get too much of that. And again, I'm fascinated by the people who are together for decades, but are still living apart. Far apart. Far apart. In those cases. But we do. We're here for you. We're here for you. We will continue to be a part of I do part two and try to help you along in your life. And again, we want to remind you, we are here to help along with our team of experts and mentors. Yeah. So the only trend we really want to see happen in 2025 is that you are attracting the love that you want into your life.

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