The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Peter Weber Reacts To Former Producers' Book and A Bachelor Nation Alum Attends Taylor Swift's Wedding!

Episode Date: July 10, 2026

Ashley and Producer Heather are breaking down the latest Bachelor Nation headlines, and things are getting spicy with Peter Weber! Find out what he has to say after the fallout of Julie LaPlaca’s book!We dive into the dating rumors surrounding Matt James and Lindsay Hubbard, and how a Bachelor Nation alum kept quiet about getting an invite to Taylor and Travis' wedding!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Almost Famous Podcasts with IHartRadio. Hey guys, welcome back to another episode of the Almost Famous Podcast. Ben is not here, and I know. Ben and I have been doing very few podcasts together lately. It's been sad because I'm not allowed to do the Housewives podcast that he's doing with Lauren, which I love. And then he's been out shooting his show. And he's also like, you know, living his life.

he took a nice vacation, which he so deserves. So it's summertime. So sorry, it will resume to regular scheduled programming in the next month or so. All right. But until then, don't we love having Heather? Heather is such an expert because Heather does give such insight as to casting. She's a pop culture. She's very, very educated on pop culture.

She's chronically online is what Ashley's trying to say. say. Oh, but we are grateful for it. You have so much good insight. So this first headline, he responded just perfectly. Chris Harrison has been asked, he was at a golf championship this weekend, and he was asked about the Taylor Frankie Paul drama. And he had a great response. He said, I'll say this. All this makes me more excited about my new show. I mean, that is PR-Saffy, Chris Harrison. No, we have. You know, Chris has had his moment of not being PR savvy. We've seen it.

But this is a great answer. And then he said that he is excited about the show that he has produced, executive produced, with his wife, Lauren. That's going to be on Fox Nation. It's coming out this fall. He said it's a dating love show that I've always wanted to do. After seeing what's going on with Bachelor Nation and watching other shows, he says that all the shows that I'm watching, I'm excited to be bringing something different. I think what he means is he's doing a dating show that's like pretty wholesome. It is about, it's very marriage oriented. It's about people that like

want a calm, happy dating environment and not one where there'll be a lot of drama thrown their way. I'm going to jump in and say that there's going to have to be some sort of drama. It's a TV show. So there will be something, but it's, I just think it's leaning more to, we're not going to be seeing people in bikinis doing Love Island kind of stuff is, I get that vibe. Yeah, like I said, I've only watched one episode of Love Island and the guy was bragging about sleeping with 400 women. And I was just like, I don't think it's the show for me. Well, if anybody's listening, it's the show for Heather. Your girl Heather is very proud of herself because she actually hasn't fallen behind on one episode this I have watched all 30-something on time.

The only ones I skip are after Sun, because let's be real, we all skip after Sun. But I'm fully, I've made it part of my daily routine, and that's how I stick with it and, like, keep on track every single night. I'm like, all right, a little bit of Love Island while I'm working and I'm in. Okay, I got kicked off. I'm good. Bye.

So I just can't watch shows that I'm not fully invested in. I'm just not a background watcher. I can't watch and work at the same time because then I will end up rewinding every scene. I'll be like, oh, what just happened? I will do a whole thing where I will crank up the volume if I think something like really important is happening and then I'll like mute. So like Love Island every single night does like a really nice recap at the beginning of every episode of anything you missed from the previous one.

So I don't ever feel like I'm super at a loss. I will say, I don't know. because I'm just getting older. The show is not clicking with me like it used to. I think it is part of a generational thing and just how Gen Z communicates and acts in these kinds of environments. That's very different than the millennial dating shows we've been watching for the last decade. So it'll be interesting, honestly, to see how things play out on this Chris Harrison one, because I'm assuming it will also be Gen Z. See, I'm feeling like it's going to be millennials, just like the younger tail end? Like, they're going to be early 30s,

but you're right. Like, how do you have a dating show with just early 30s? Even younger millennial is now like mid-30s. Well, technically, I think the last year is they're turning 30. I think the millennial, the last year of millennials is turning 30 this year, which I feel like that's the technical thing. That's technical. Do I agree that they are part of our generation? Yeah, they're too cuspy. Yeah. So wait, I want to know what do you, I don't know if I can pinpoint the difference between Gen Z and millennial, but I just think overall we're like much more, well, I think we're harder workers for sure. Don't like we get into it. No, no, please, please. And then we're also

much more polite and social. And they like don't give any gurus. Oh, sorry, I said that. It's fine. I also love that you say that, by the way. I never heard anybody say Fuckaroo before. I just only say Friroo. I guess I think it like lightens it. That's funny. Yeah, they're, um, I've said this to somebody else that's watching this season. The language that they use, um, this is like gonna sound weird, but they use therapy terms and very, um, not typical terms you would hear. 20-something use. And I think it's because of just the chronic online, the buzzwords that are being used, like they constantly are saying to each other, like, your feelings are valid. Your feelings are

valid. And it's like, I never would have said that when I was 21 years old to somebody else. You know, so it's very much like some of that stuff where I'm like, you say words and you don't, it makes you sound older than you are, and I don't know if you fully understand what you're saying. And then they actually have said a lot of words, like simple words, like incorrectly. I can't think of one off the top of my head right now,

but it's like instead of compromise, like an example, instead of compromise, we're going to comprise. Yes. Things like that. And it's like, uh,

but it's, It's, I will say that the environment, because they're constantly together and it is very, it's produced in a different way than The Bachelor. And I think that's why it resonates with an audience is the sense that producers actually never enter the villa. So they never see them. What? Oh, yeah.

So the way. You only talk to them in confessional rooms? Only and they never see them. Through like the speaker. That's what we did on stars on Mars. I didn't like it. The villa has like over 80 hidden cameras. So that's what's filming them at all times.

So there's no camera crew in your face. Absolutely no camera crew, no producers. People come in to feed them. And that is not the only meal that's shown on the show is breakfast. You don't see them eat lunch and dinner. And that's because they come in, feed them, and they separate them. Feed them like the animals in the zoo. Literally.

And they make them separate. They make the boys and the girls separate during meals and they're not allowed to talk like when they eat. And so, and what's also crazy is they have the drink rule as well. So to see, and then they get the drinks. You can't see what I'm doing with my hands.

The amount of alcohol in their cup is so tiny during the end of the night that I'm just like, so you did all that weird shit? Yeah. Sober. This is why you're on the podcast, okay? You know all of these details. It's crazy.

I mean, the show, to me, I still do stand by that I think Love Island is one of the greatest dating shows of all time just because, I mean, they do the bombshell thing better than anybody. And then just the fact that they have America voting and randomly the islanders will be told, like you're kicked out of the villa because America doesn't like you. Like that is an element that other shows don't do. I couldn't imagine. I would be eliminated so early on if I didn't have. Yeah, I would have been.

No, you wouldn't. There are times where people would be like, Ashley, you're done. You're done. So Amaya Papaya from last season was very Ashley coated. And she won. Are you kidding me? You could have been a villa favorite. Like Amaya Papaya was crying all the time and she was singing to herself.

She was like, I never said I was perfect. And that is actually a very accurate portrayal of how she sang, just what I did. And we loved her for it. So you would definitely transpire onto the Love Island audience if that had been your avenue. I just, you would have been very scared of being a virgin in the villa. That would have been actually horrific for you. I don't know if they've had a virgin in the villa. I feel like they have on UK, but I don't know about you.

I haven't watched all the U.S. seasons to be totally fair. I watched more U.K. before I transitioned over. Wow. So thank you for the deeds, though. I mean, you're making me actually a little interested in watching, but I can barely get through one episode of a scripted show per week. Yeah. You can't do five episodes a week. I keep falling asleep in the middle of Cape Fear. So Cape Fear has like been my like, what is she makes a weird face. I don't know what that is. Oh, with Amy Adams and Harvey Arbardam is executed produced by Spielberg. Disgars A-Z. It's on Apple TV.

You are such a reality TV girl. It's hilarious because I am just a scripted girl, even though I am a reality contestant. Yeah, I need my escapism and it's inscripted. But I like try to watch a half an hour every night. And it's just like, oh, five minutes in, good night. But I really like the show. It's just. I did want to tell you I'm sad this week because.

their first non-Rory week. That's my first. And by the way, the fact that people call it Rory, I actually had no idea. Somebody on our team said that and I was like, Rory, what are you talking about? I thought they were talking about Gilmore Girls. They were like housewives and I was like,

wait, that's so cute. But yeah, I'm actually sad. This is my first week without, besides you, without my girls on my screen. And it like kind of makes me bummed because there's not. a season of Housewives right now that I'm like really

viking with so it's gonna well obviously we're gonna be recapping Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip Roaring 20 starting next month not me guys Ben and Lauren so we're excited about that because we'll get to see some fan favorites on there Ben learning about other classic ladies lore might be hilarious The funniest part was that he didn't know what the 20 meant. And I go, oh, 20 years. The show's been on for 20 years.

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interview that aired a couple days ago. Go check that out if you're so willing, because there's a lot of people out there that don't, they're not on Julie's team right now. Not to say that we're on teams. We're not. I would love to have Peter here. We're definitely not on teams and people should listen to both sides,

especially an interview where the hosts read the book. Do you remember back in the day when people would like be delivered to sides and then they like have to make decisions on their own without vilifying the people who are just having the conversations? Or how about we actually go off the quotes that the people involved are saying? So I would love for you to read what Peter is actually saying verbatim, because then we can also talk about the words he's not using. Okay.

So Peter said, I just find it ironic that Julie is coming out with a book, all about finding your truth and searching for love, when the entire time I was trying to do just that on my season of The Bachelor with her as my main confidant and guide her. and guide throughout the process. Her actions said otherwise. So he's saying that he thinks that Julie was manipulative to him. Well, read on. And I'm going to kind of do. Okay. I am by no means a victim of all of this. I'm a grown man who's responsible for my actions. And I know that. That's a big line. That being said, I'm going through an experience, that being said, going through an experience like I did,

involved a certain level of trust being given to people I really didn't know that much about at the time. He said I'm having a hard time understanding how Chris, Harrison and Julie can both endorse this type of book when they know how badly they let me down. And then lastly, to have her laugh in my face, well, I was very vulnerably expressing my reasons for wanting to be left out of this book was unforgivable. and yes, she knows I have the conversation recorded. So lots of stuff there that we would have enjoyed asking, Julie. We did ask her about her producing during his season. And based on what I read in the book,

nothing seems like she produced him out of having a love story. Well, also, we have to, he's implying that the comments that she made about Hannah were coming from a personal place. You would look like an idiot if you gave her the rose. He's implying that there is absolutely no way that that comment could have been delivered from a producer from a professional standpoint. So that is a judgment that he is making. And I want to say that we're actually never going to know the answer to that question

because she is NDAID up the wazoo that she is never going to. to be able to say or speak to what kind of conversations executives had with her that were maybe influencing what she was saying to him. I want to know if there's other examples that he has because that one example. That seems to be the only one. It doesn't do it for me because I felt I have been told many things like that behind the scenes where it was like you're going to look like a dumbass. you should probably chill. And honestly, the one moment to me that really sticks out about that, I knew that they were telling me the truth. And I did chill.

This is, of course, his moment is more romantically based. It's not behavioral based. Well, of course it is. But it's like if you give her a rose, if you give her a declaration of like acceptance and like love, it's going to look dumb. I think that Peter has every right to say what he said and feel the way that he feels. And I think that she has every right to say and do what she wants because it was part of her experience as well. What I'm going to say is that the word groomed, grooming was not used by Peter whatsoever. So until Peter uses that language, I'm not going to put any way.

behind that term. I think what Nick would argue with you is that somebody who is groomed doesn't necessarily know that they are. I don't think this was grooming. I think that this was two people of similar ages and of similar power rankings. And there was a crush on her end. And I don't even know what it was on his end during filming. And I, from what I'm reading in the book, doesn't seem like there was any sort of power pull or any sort of influencing about her feelings onto him. Do I think that the book in general is something that I would never do this, right? I wouldn't, like, I would have respected my friendship enough with him to never reveal such secrets. I can't, I feel really bad for the position that Peter's in while I was made very clear in the Julie interview that I don't think.

that he has anything to worry about. I think that he looks like a nice man here. And I'm sorry if, I'm sorry for what he's going through because like he's probably feeling embarrassed and all that stuff. I personally think that that's where this is coming from. I think that it's coming from a place of embarrassment.

And I'm going to say this too. I mean, Hannah Brown said multiple times about their sexual romps. on camera that have lived on in memes and clips and all sorts of things. I have never heard him say publicly, oh, I wish Hannah Brown would keep that to herself. That was a private moment.

We all know about sex in the windmill four times, people. So I just think that like if that is upsetting to you, again, you have every right to be upset that she is now making a book and profiting on it. I understand that we are talking about semi-different situations. Yeah. But are you mad that she's profiting on it? Or are you mad that she revealed it? Because what you keep saying is that you're upset that she revealed a private moment.

Well, Hannah Brown has also revealed a private moment. And I don't see the same sort of outrage. The thing is that Hannah did talk. It was like within the means of the show. Like it happened in a Wemel on the show. So we have to know. But it also happened off. But it also happened off camera at his parents' house.

She did not need to say that. Just the way this happened off camera at his parents' house. I just want to say that I have a lot of sympathy towards Peter right now. Absolutely. Who wants to be living in the press and having this? Yeah, for him, I don't want, you know, go on whatever podcast. Go on Nick's podcast. I would love to hear his conversation with Nick.

Also, Peter's in a relationship and he's extremely happy and we're happy for him. So I can't imagine having to navigate that with your girlfriend. girlfriend, like all of this that's happening. I'm going to say, though, we will be reading the book on our new spinoff series with Kalin Bell and giving a really honest conversation because I think it's important, like, I'm giving my opinion right now based on like my background, but I have not read the book. And I want to make an educated like comment on what I have to say. And maybe my opinion will change after reading it. Maybe it will just reinforce things. But we are going to read the and, you know, review it here on the pod.

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and wherever you get your podcast. Let me tell you this, guys. I read the book months ago when none of this controversy was happening. So I read it through totally different eyes. If I reread it, which I'm sorry, I don't have time to do right now. I could see it through a different view. I could. There might be certain parts.

I don't know. I read it like a rom-com. And I looked out for Peter while reading it. I was like, is this going to be something that pisses off? Is this going to be something pisses it off? And there were parts like, yeah, but I thought overall he just, still looked like a nice guy. And then let's go into one other thing that I just read. Peter said that he had a 90-minute conversation with Julie before the book release, where he asked for

some discretion when it came to sharing intimate details about their relationship. And then he says, like I already said, I'm sorry, but I'm rereading it. To have her laugh in my face while I was vulnerably expressing my reasons for wanting it to be left out is unforgivable. And, it's on record. I mean, like, dude, if you feel so, I release it. Because, I mean, that's, it's threatening. It's also like, that sucks if she laugh in your face while saying that. I don't know. You have to listen to it. I don't know. If I'm Pete, I'm writing my own book. And I'm going to read it. I'm going to read it. I'm going to write my own book about me flying into this next chapter of my life. Flying into it.

I had to put that in there. And just make your book bigger, better, whatever. Like, use the fuel to the fire. His book is so, so good already in my head because we have Hannah in the Windmill. We have him between Maddie and Hannah Ann, which that was wild. You have the Angela Kelly. And now this, you have four relationships, five. that I want to read about.

So that's go for, Peter. Pete, just go do that. Go write your own book. And we'll happily read that one too. Use some of the quotes from the phone call. We're good. Let's do it. All right.

Last headline. If you were to think who is going to Taylor and Travis's wedding from Bachelor Nation. Yo, I have so many thoughts on this wedding. But I don't know if I want to air them out publicly. And I don't need that in a mean way. I don't mean that in like a particularly mean way, but I know the Swifties out there, they're scary.

It's almost like talking politics when you talk to Swifties. No, we definitely won't get into that, because I can't handle it either. But I want to know, what did you think when you saw Becca and Haley that they had gone to the wedding? Were you surprised? My initial reaction was jealousy.

Of course, because I'm an honest person, okay? I may have been judging certain elements of the wedding all weekend and loving being on Instagram, trying to get every single detail and every guest and really trying to figure out what it looked like inside there. But I am jealous that they got to experience it and they got to see what was see what it looked like inside, see what her dress looked like, hear those vows, see what the

interminglings were, the seating arrangement, if it really looked like mass and square garden, all of the things. But I'm also happy that if there was one person in my circle that got to experience, it, that it was Bacchitli and Haley. Oh my gosh. I mean, how cool. Seriously, how cool. No matter the thought that I think it was actually, my most controversial take is this. I'll say it. Oh, God, should I say it? The raffle? No, not the raffle. It's that like, to me, as I followed somebody's love life for 20 years, and yes, is it at my, like, do I own her love life or all her decisions that she makes with it now? But have I been invested in her story and how it, And has she, in a huge way, been involved in the soundtrack of my love life?

I wanted something that felt less commercial, okay? That's all. Felt commercial to me. We'll leave it at that. I'm not a fan, so I don't have anything to say on that. But Becca said that on her podcast that... She said apparently nothing. I heard.

I was like she couldn't reveal anything. But I can't believe she didn't tell Tanya until she sent the dress picture. She did say that they got the invite a few months ago. She said it was incredible food, played games. And she didn't participate in the bouquet toss because, you know, she'd already found her person. So she didn't want to be involved in that aspect. Wow. So there was a bouquet toss.

Oh, yeah. I saw who got it. It was a football player's girlfriend or guest or something. And it was a very small. bouquet, which was shown. And so people in the comments were like, calm down, guys, that's not her bouquet. That was her toss bouquet or something.

She was really tiny. But anyways. You know who caught my bouquet? Heather? Nick. Nick? I did it on purpose, though. I love it. I was like, oh my God, I forgot to toss it. And then I literally, I was like, Nick, get out there, get out there. And like,

I basically just stood it. And now look, the arrival of his three children happened this week. Oh my gosh. And what did I say last time I saw you? I said, do you think they're going to announce it this weekend? And you were like, no. And then should have literally the day. So we can jump to that. Yeah, Nick and Natalie welcome their twin girls and kind of revealed the meaning behind their names, which are Dove Tomlin Vial and Iris Parker Vial, their rainbow babies. So now that

they're a family of five. I can't believe things like this happened so fast. It feels like yesterday Nick called us and told us they're having twins and now they're out. It's nuts. So it's Dove Tomlin Viol which is very pretty. Dove Natalie says is significant

because of losing her dad this year. She said she heard mourning doves all the time and Iris's core meaning is rainbow which after losing three babies is crazy that they They had three lost pregnancies before these twins. These being our rainbow babies, that name felt right.

And then she said it's also my favorite flower, irises. Her mom's favorite flower. And then Tomlin, the middle name of Dove, is for my Natalie's grandmother's maiden name, and Parker is Nick's mother's maiden name. We're very happy for them, and it seemed like it was a really nice delivery. So congratulations. Nick is a girl dad, and I could imagine. nothing else. A lot of estrogen in that house and I love it for him. This headline is so funny to

me. Lindsay Hubbard addresses Matt James hookup rumors after they were spotted together. The hookup from this is so funny because it's literally just a picture of them like at a bar. Walking in. It's so funny. But Andy asked Lindsay on Watch What Happens Live on Tuesday. He said, the way, there are rumors about you and Matt James hooking up. And she said, I don't know what you're talking about. And he goes, yes, you do. And he goes, you're very online. And she goes, there are a lot of rumors about all of us because we're all single. And she said, it's going to be a hot girl summer. So basically, Dumois earlier this month, had a tip that said, Lindsay Hubbard walked into the event with Matt James, who it seemed like was her plus one.

It also said Matt had his arm around Lindsay and he was caressing her shoulder in a flirty, cute way. It says the post, it definitely looked like they were flirting, thought it was cute that they were all the same table hanging out and having fun together, including Carl, Lindsay's ex. And so Lindsay responded to the post and said, oh, cute and flirty, I'll take it. I'm going to say this. I'm not a longtime summer house watcher, and I know you've met Lindsay. I think she's way too much personality for a Matt James. Like she is also a single mom. Like, I don't know if that's in Matt James's cards right now.

This seems like they're hooking up at best. There's not going to be any great romance that evolves. I don't see it. You don't even see it? Like, maybe they're just flirty friendly friends. I just think it's so funny how a rumor can spark that quickly. I mean, this is really like a big deal. I mean, Glenn Powell is a movie star, a movie star.

And he spent his weekend with Cassie Randolph. And he's been hanging out with Rachel Lindsay. Rachel Lindsay was in this group, too. She was in the group hang? Yes. Oh, my gosh. How'd I didn't see her. in the pictures, but I was really looking for the pictures between Glenn and Michelle. So obviously

you guys, you know that Cassie Randolph's, her sister, Michelle Randolph, is like a pretty big actress right now. And she's been dating Glenn Powell, but they made it official. They hard launch the thing. And he did it on his Instagram this weekend, or Fourth of July, in Texas. It was really cute. There's a picture of Cassie, of Michelle, just like a solo shot of him in the carousel, and then you scroll a little bit further and you see that there's a picture of them kissing. This is serious. Most A-Less actors don't hard-launch relationships like this, so I think it's going to be a long one. Can I just say something I've learned from the headlines this week? Yeah. If you go on The Bachelor, you could be at Taylor and Travis's wedding, or your sister

could be dating Glenn Powell, people. Like, this is the... power of the Bachelor nation. Like, these people would not be in these scenarios, had they not been on the bachelor's? I know. It's so true. I don't know. Michelle may have been an actress, I guess. Sure.

And Michelle's gorgeous. Come on. She's unreal. She could have crossed with Glenn Powell at some point. But Becca getting to Taylor and Travis's wedding, I mean, it's, guys, if you're ever wondering, should I sign up for the reality dating show? is your episode to realize, you know, maybe I should. Yes, seriously. It's a, it's a good time. It's led me in a really fun direction.

Yeah, you could be your real housewife. Like, all these things happen from, from the universe. But anyways, I really liked this episode. Lots of good headlines this week. Lots of good headlines. And congratulations to Kendall Long, who's expecting a second baby. Her other baby, her first was born March 2025. So how about I didn't realize when I was putting together that she had another baby. Oh, yeah. I was like a little out of it. Like I was like, baby number two, where's baby number one?

Like I actually didn't remember any of that. But happy for them. Yes, that's another magical story. So funny to go from her being so upset over Joe a few years ago to having just discovered that her real match was waiting in the wings. Does she still do taxidermy? I don't know. That was just like a fun hobby.

It wasn't like her profession. Oh, okay. Yeah. That's what I associate her with. But anyways. Yeah, of course. All right, guys. Thank you so much for listening.

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