The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Pirates Ahoy with Kendall Long

Episode Date: January 22, 2019

Kendall Long is hanging out with us today, and she’s ready to give us the full story about all the headlines about her engagement to Grocery Store Joe! Then she sticks around to break down Colton’s pirate adventure group date, and she gets Ben to open up about his new relationship (and how Colton is involved!)And Ashley and Kendall give us their honest thoughts about Demi, and how Colton handled his “spanking”. Plus, Ben shares some inside visual tricks he uses to figure out what’s going on in the mind of the Bachelor. Then Terry Crews’ wife Rebecca, to tell us what it was like being part of Colton’s 1 on 1 date. She’s been in a successful relationship in Hollywood for a long time, so she’s the perfect person to go for advice on how to make a marriage truly work. She lets us in on some of the lessons she has for Colton’s girls, and she shares some wisdom on the differences in how men and women communicate. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Kindle Long from The Bachelor and Bachelor in Paradise. She's found love, and we've got to catch up with her. She's going to be around the whole podcast talking everything Bachelor. We're talking everything, Colton, and we're going to catch up on her life. Kindle, you've just gotten back to L.A. I have. You've been traveling. What in the world have you been up to?

Well, Joe is on Dancing with the Stars Tour right now, so I've been living the bus life with him. And I'm actually going to be going back in a week to, to Philadelphia to complete the tour with him so yeah that's been it's been pretty it's been pretty fun when you go visit Joe on tour what does that look like like are with the stars do they treat these dancers well are they staying in hotels are they flying everywhere they treat them so well um I think a lot of the time they'll sleep on the bus but when I was there luckily enough Joe did have a hotel that we were able to stay in but um yeah it may it's mainly just bus life you during the night you'll go to a different city every night and

he he loves it i mean he's hosting it and he's gotten amazing on stage and so comfortable so it's amazing to see just like all the dancers like dancing and getting to know them more and playing games on the bus and seeing different cities and towns and uh yeah it's just like traveling and performing which is like the circus life in some way yeah it kind of is sweet uh i think a lot of people out there listening wouldn't know this so so joe uh your boyfriend went on dancing with the stars everybody does know that grocery store joe but then after the show they go on tour they kind of travel all throughout the united states putting on shows in different cities for for what three months yeah so it's about three months but this year they have a couple different stars that are

doing the tour and he is doing a he's doing it for a month so he's probably on his second week he has two more weeks and then um yeah so he's just been kind of cruising around is he hosting it you said yeah he's hosting it initially he did do a couple dances and i think he still does one dance but it's not as much dancing it's more so the hosting part which i think he's probably really excited about but i i wish he did more dancing personally yeah because i love i love seeing him dance it's so cute oh that's love right there um is uh is the champion bobby bone on tour he is yeah so he hosted radio city with joe and um he is awesome he has so much energy i cannot imagine how that guy functions he has he's everywhere he does a radio show in the

mornings anyways that's crazy so uh kendall i was i was just doing a little research trying to catch up on your life and the headlines today are kendler long talks possible engagement to joe yeah that's on e online today five hours ago if you just google your name it pops up very first Really, I can't keep up, I can't keep up with my own life right now. I mean, it's something that we're not afraid of, but we haven't talked about a specific, we haven't talked specifically about an engagement together. Okay. You haven't.

It's not even like hinted at. No, I mean, it's definitely, it's definitely something that we've talked about. We're not afraid of. And I think it's the understanding that when you're in a relationship, you wouldn't be in it unless you thought there was a possibility of. being engaged so I think the day that engagement is off the table is the day that Joe and I are no longer together which is not going to be happening at least I hope I hope ever yeah so I mean it really is we're ruined for you guys like I mean Bachelor nation absolutely loves you and Joe but we also know that the pressures of

these kind of questions are just annoying all the time I actually you know I just mentioned I think last week on the podcast that I was dating somebody. And all of a sudden, it's this massive deal. And I was like, well, this is married. Yeah. I guess now I'm getting married. But, uh, but, you know, it's exciting. And, uh, and it is fun. But it is also the world that we've walked into is where your relationship is now kind of the highlight in your identity. Yeah. Um, do you ever feel, Kendall, and we're going to move on here in a second. We're going to talk to, we have a great episode ahead of us. We're going to talk Colton's, uh, recap. We're to catch up with

Ashley, Hykenetti. Uh, I don't know if you all know her, but, uh, She's the co-host of this podcast. She's in Mexico kind of hanging out. I don't know what she's doing in Mexico. So, and then Rebecca Cruz, who was on this week's episode of The Bachelor, is going to come on and give us some behind-the-scenes juice and dirt on what all happened. It's going to be awesome. But, yeah, so, you know, Kendall, I was thinking the other day that I've, you know,

been slow to date. And, you know, I don't think you have dated a ton outside of Joe and during your time. on the show, but it was also a pretty quick turnover for you. Yeah. Our identities now become our relationships. And I've realized, I think, recently how much that's affected me personally. Has that affected you at all? Do you see that kind of changing the way that you and Joe date, or does it feel just as

normal as any other relationship you ever had? I mean, it definitely isn't the same as any relationship I've ever had. I feel like every decision we make has an opinion, has many different opinions. But I think we find humor in everything. And I think you have to find humor in the things that could be difficult, like people having negative opinions. But, yeah, I don't know. I feel like it's, most of the times I forget that people even care that we're in a relationship.

It's only when you look on social media that you realize that. But walking around, you know, all their, I mean, it is kind of funny having, talking to random people and they know your entire history. And they go, yeah, like, I've seen you guys do this. and you guys are like this. And it's funny to have people aware of that. But it's almost as if I just have more friends in some way that's kind of understand what I've been through.

So I don't have to, you know, tell them the whole entire story. And I also feel like it's funny that I usually assume that people know who Joe is when in a conversation. And there are some people who don't watch the show. I'm like, oh, yeah, Joe. And they're like, Joe. But the majority of the time people do know, you know, who, he is but uh yeah you guys you know kind of one thing you've you've done uh in your

relationship and and just in the last couple months is I've seen both of you just from an outsider's but I'm just a fan right I don't I don't know you two personally very well but I've watched you two kind of come together as a couple and both grow up as people and not grow up like you had any growing up to do like oh you were a total failure as a person before I again I don't know but I've seen a transition maybe or an involvement in both of your lives you just mention it, you know, now Joe's comfortable on stage. He's been on Dance with the Stars going from some little sheepish kid who didn't want to be on the show at all to now, you know, rocking out and hosting a show. And for you, you know, now your relationship with Joe is stronger. You know,

you kind of fought through everything that we saw on Bachelor of Paradise. And then you're, you know, now supporting him and you guys are going around on Instagram and your relationship with your sister strong, all these things I've been watching from a distance. And it's been really cool. But for you, is that, has that affected your personal life at all? Oh, it can't help it affect your personal life. It's in almost everything that you do. So I think it's just you go through a transition of adjusting to what life is like now. And I think the one thing, I mainly just listen to the opinions of people who truly know me.

And that's kind of what you have to do. You can't take the good. You can't take the bad. And you just have to listen to people who truly know who you are because those are the ones that have any effect on, you know. They're the ones that truly can have an opinion about my life. But, yeah, I mean, my life definitely has done a 180, but at the same time, humans are interesting creatures, right? We can adjust to things rather quickly. We find normalcy in things.

So I feel like I have a sense of normalcy now with it, and it's not really odd. That's awesome. That's awesome. Everything about your life should be odd, and it's not because you've adapted. Speaking of adapted, what do you think of Colton so far as it? bachelor I think he's doing really good I think a lot of people at first were worried about him being the bachelor maybe his age or maybe not ready because of all the drama he's been through with his past relationships on the show but I personally think he's doing he's handling himself

very well you know I agree I think he's doing this we after watching this week's episode it became very clear to me he definitely doesn't have swag it's zero swag it's endearing yeah you watch you're like, I feel for this guy. He's still nervous when the women show up for group dates. Like, he still stumbles over his words. I do notice that. I do notice that. But it's great because he's not, he's not a professional entertainer. Yeah. Yeah. It's really fun. And I don't think we shot the expectation that he should be an entertainer. I mean, it is real life. You're seeing real life. And I was extremely nervous. And I know Joe was extremely nervous when going on the show. And it takes a while to adjust to that, especially if everyone's looking up to you with all these

expectations and oh you're the bachelor you're this guy that's supposed to fill all these needs that i have and um it's a lot of pressure to put on somebody i mean and he's i'm sure he's hyper aware of the fact that everybody is going to have a very strong opinion about him every single step of the way and you can't help but feel that no yeah definitely no i think he's doing great this week's episode kind of solidified that hey uh Kendall you were able to watch this week's episode i was able to walk that watch this week's episode we're going to call up ashley I can edit here in a few minutes to get her a take. But I want to hear from you first.

We've already talked about Colton as The Bachelor. What do you think about the group date on this episode? Let's start with the pirate. Oh, I loved the pirate date. I've actually personally been to the pirate show before. I got my sister and brother a ticket for Christmas last year. And we all went to the pirate show and you could dress up as a pirate. And, you know, we did the whole like eating with your hands thing and watching the show.

and you vote i actually was one of the people who got to carry the flag and run with the flag across so i was very into it um so that would have been a perfect date my first question is what is this place like explain the whole setup for me you just kind of did it's a dinner place it sounds like where you buy tickets and you watch a show is this in los angeles um it's outside of los angeles i think it's about an hour or so away it's a trek but um so yeah it's a dinner show it's very much like when they have the nights You know, medieval times is very much like that, but it's pirate-based. So you just go and you sit in like a Coliseum audience and you watch these pirates put on a show

and you have to cheer for your pirate, your team. So I was an orange team, but there's like a blue team and a red team. And yeah, it gets very, it gets very rowdy in there. And so it's intimidating, I'm sure, to have everybody staring at you and having to fight and do all these crazy tricks. So those girls definitely had it out. Would you have enjoyed this group date? Oh, yeah. That would have been by far one of my favorite dates. I would absolutely, absolutely love that.

Who kind of captured then? As you're watching this, you're going, all right, I would love this group date. This looks like a place for me. Who kind of captured your eye for the women there that you're like, all right, they're standing out during this date? I think for me, Hannah definitely stood out because she was rocking it up on that balance beam. And also, Kalin, because I think I was just more so jealous that she got to use the zip line and zip line down. But, and there's definitely a drama between both of them. So I feel like that was a huge focus on the date. It's interesting. I think this is a good time to kind of roll into the first part of their drama because that's obviously a massive storyline so far on this season. You know, after watching this episode,

I feel like we got a very clear picture that this is ugly. I mean, this is pretty divisive. They don't like each other. There's a lot of pain. In the first part of this episode, I'm watching this. And I just feel like it's a little tiff, right? Something's happened. Somebody's beat the other person in a pageant, and now they're angry.

But as episode goes on, I feel like there's a lot of pain here that we're not being told. Do you agree? That's what I felt, too. I was really confused because all I know is that they're just throwing adjectives at each other. They're describing each other in negative ways, but they're not really talking about the facts behind why those adjectives are being given. So, and I know that with Kaylin, she had gone through a tremendous. traumatic experience and there's no light shed on what that traumatic experience is. So it's difficult to empathize with people.

I definitely did feel empathy for both of them, but it's difficult to understand the empathy if you don't know how they got to that place. So I was, I was, I'm still confused as to why it is such a big deal and why Hannah had said that, um, if, if Colton liked someone like Kalin, that he wasn't looking for her. Like it was almost like an, in some. ways it sounded like an ultimatum you know either it's me or her and i don't know if that was something that i really agreed with it's it puts cold in a weird place and it's not the best way to present yourself right it doesn't show a lot of understanding or patience for the circumstance can't help all

of our listeners and myself understand this so you're you're in week three at this point you've been in a house for a while uh you're starting to get comfortable you're starting to learn other people's you know, personality traits, you're starting to understand, you know, which women are there for the right reasons and which women aren't. But in this episode, we really start to see the claws come out. I mean, women are after Demi. Oh, my goodness. The Kalin and Hannah situation. We have some snarky comments during group dates. As somebody is sitting in the house on those group dates, what is going through your mind? And why do you think, year over year over year, the contestants react this way to these scenarios? I mean, it's a very different.

experience. You're not used to being thrown in with a bunch of girls you've never met before and trying to vie for one man's heart. It's a unique experience. So I feel like there's a lot of shifting. There's a lot of people who are trying to see where the pecking order is in some sense. You're trying to see who you want to be friends with, who you don't want to be friends with. You almost have to be friends with one person. If they don't like someone else, you can't be friends with them. It's just a very, it's a bunch of shifting. And I think people are just adjusting to a lifestyle with sleep deprivation and emotions going everywhere and yeah it's just i mean i think in life whenever there's something completely different that's thrown at you you have to shift in some

way and people react to that differently it's and shifting in an environment that's unfamiliar has to be even harder there's one thing i always love this episode on both seasons the the bachelor and the bachelor and the bachelor i don't know if you realize it this week or not but the the episode that you see the women show up to get a group date or show up in the morning without makeup on and the episode that the men come in with like pajamas and like their hair messed up then you know they're getting comfortable that's what I love because the first week everybody's dressed up right first episode no matter where they're at or how early it is they're ready to go right guys and girls but you you see when people start kind of putting their guard down when they show up with like pajamas glasses

and their hair like in a bun I love that that's my favorite yeah we're getting some real stuff And that's my favorite feeling, too, in the house, also feeling like you can settle in and feel comfortable and start getting used to your environment. I probably felt the most uncomfortable the first night. I felt the most unlike myself because you have someone doing your hair and doing your makeup. And I almost felt like that didn't really truly show who I was. And then when you do get to be more relaxed and, you know, with no makeup, I almost felt like, okay, well, now I'm showing who I really am. And so I could be more open to this experience in that way. What week is that, do you think?

I mean, is it week three typically? I think it takes a little while to settle in, only because you still have your, you're still on high alert, maybe the first week, and then week two you slowly start to maybe put a little bit of makeup on when you go down there. You just have to get used to the fact that you're being filmed 24-7,

and you can't wear makeup 24-7. I feel like you just suffocate your face, so. So I think it's good. I love seeing, I think this was the first week where people, would the girls seem to be more real to me? Yeah, yeah, I agree. We're starting to see,

we're starting to see the claws come out, which also means that we're starting to see the realness of the personalities. Kendall, after the pirate ship, which was, I agree, a good group date. I just like group days because they're goofy. I don't want any more these, like, group dates. I don't have high expectations for group dates,

I guess I should say. So when they're funny, goofy or whatever, they work for me. But it's the after party. The after party is where it all goes down. Hall goes down. Can you walk our listeners real quick what it's like leaving a group day? Okay, so you leave a group day. You're sweaty, you're sticky, you've been running around all day. What does it look like prepping then for the evening portion?

Oh, it's a mad rush because there's a bunch of girls who all need to get a shower, all need to do makeup, I'll need to find an outfit. So I always felt like it was, I mean, personally, I was glad that I, maybe I just didn't have a lot of makeup experience. So it didn't take me a long time to do my makeup, but everyone looks extremely flawless. You go on the group date and it's really relaxed. You have comfortable clothes on and you do like funny things. Sometimes you have costumes. Then you go to the cocktail party and that you know it's just a shift in energy. It's like, okay, we had fun today, but now like this is business and now we have to make something happen. So yeah. You're right. One of the girls who is known to get ready for these

after parties is my beautiful and wonderful co-host, Ashley I Canetti, who's on the line now. Ashley, I Canetti, welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. Are you out there? Hi, Ben. That's super weird. Ashley, we're taking a little time right now, and I think you and Kendall will have great perspective on this, what it looks like going. We're talking about the pirate ship date, moving into the evening portion of the date.

What it looks like after leaving, like, the fun activity part. transitioning into the evening portion for all the listeners behind the scenes logistically that's got to be a nightmare and kendall just shared that yeah everybody's mad rush showering putting makeup on she didn't take a long time to get ready i imagine you took a little longer you know everybody likes to think that i took forever to get ready and maybe i did season one but the producers would always give like they would try to wake me up earlier or have me go and get ready before everybody else because they thought it was going to take me so much longer i was like you guys, I've got this down pat. I do not need more than 45 minutes. It was just going to be makeup and hair. I can do makeup and hair that quickly. It is hard in the mansion and when you're on a group date

because there's not enough mirrors to go around. Oh, the lighting is so important. I actually brought my own... Oh, the lighting. It's horrendous. Yeah, I brought my own little one. You did. Yeah, I did. Yeah, I did. Because that's why I did with Paradise Season

two. I was like the lighting was so bad in the mansion. that I got that vanity on the go. Yep, I did the same exact thing, and I also had girls borrowing it after I used it. So, and actually a lot of people would do their makeup outside because inside they had that fake lighting, and it was like lit from above,

so you had shadows on your face, and so going outside was like a pure form. Damn lighting. Yeah. It's interesting. I mean, I think the listeners out there would be kind of, They've always asked, right? So you leave these group dates and you go typically to back to the mansion to grab some clothes or you go to a hotel.

The show does a great job. They pick out a hotel kind of closer to the group date space because like Kendall said, the pirate ship is an hour from L.A. Like going all the way back to the mansion, changing, getting ready for the evening portion is a lot. So you go to this hotel. They get your food. You eat. But it is a mad rush. I mean, I think I remember as the guys, there was like two or three rooms they would use for like 10 of us.

and we would all be in there trying to throw our suits on, spraying cologne, doing our hair. It's a wild party, but I think for our listeners, it's actually a lot of fun because it's where you start to bond with the other contestants. Oh, yeah. You definitely, and in helping each other out, the one thing I really loved about all the mad rushes

was that people would ask, oh, do you want to borrow my clothes or do you need to use my mirror or makeup? And there's a lot of, like, female bonding. At least I can speak for our season when you were, pushed, but you had the pressure of having to get ready. The girls always wanted me to do their eyebrows. So I'm only in the middle of their makeup. They're like, Ashley, if you have a little extra time, can you please do my eyebrows?

I would definitely be one of those people because my sister does my eyebrows for me. She's way more talented than I am. And so I would be one of those girls asking you to help me. Ashley, you're not with us this week. Before we get back into The Bachelor Talk, we're summing up Colton's third episode of his season. Where are you, and what are you doing? It is me, Jared, obviously, Carly and Evan, and we're down at the Secrets Resort in Cancun doing a piece for entertainment tonight. Oh, that sounds so nice.

You love rough life, Ash. You're getting paid to go to the Cancun Secrets Resort for entertainment tonight. You know what? I envy you sometimes. Well, you know, Ben, I'm sure you're given plenty of similar opportunities. Well, Ash, we miss you here in studio. But everybody's wondering, what's your opinion so far after episode three on Colton? On Colton?

I think I still feel the same about Colton. I think he's just like a super nice and great guy. I think he's been a really good fattler. I think like this episode, he's really gotten comfortable and he's taking charge and leading the whole debate. I kind of said the same thing we really thought he his his like he put his foot down this week yeah yeah he's in control now I think he did enough observing and now he feels okay to like step in you can see he's getting really giddy and excited about certain girls and it shows on his face too when he talks about certain people you see him like starting to like he can't help but break a little

smile or get really cute and um yeah I actually I love seeing that it's like the initial, of course you have the initial connection, but then you start seeing those connections get more in depth. And it is kind of like seeing the honeymoon phase of the beginning of starting to discover a relationship. And that's one of my favorite parts. Yeah, it's really not a challenge to tell which girls he likes and which ones he doesn't really give an F about. Definitely. It's so easy. That's one thing. He's so easy. You know, I want to hear your his opinions. One thing I wrote down, you know, we've watched the show for years. Most people out there listening have the you can always kind of tell who he's into and who you know there's a

sense of it's going to be the real deal when you don't see a lot of them for the first couple weeks and you're like I wish I saw more of you one is we haven't seen anything from my girl brie nothing like nothing from brie yet uh and then also cassie and hana g other than hana g you know on the first night we haven't heard from her i want to hear your three your opinions do you think that means those three are big players this season. No, Ben, Hannah G. had a very significant role.

I felt like in episode two. How so? But this, well, he was like, him with her during that group date, he was like all over her. And like, they really established that they liked each other already. So I think that's why she had a break this week.

And then, and this episode, Elise really came out as a, as one of the people that he really likes. And so did Caitlin. Oh, I loved Elise's date. That was adorable. Me too. Me too.

Genuinely, heartwarming. And her story is the saddest. And they have a lot in common as well with the charity is. Totally. Do you think the Brie Cassie thing then? I mean, am I wrong on that? Or have I missed a couple? Oh, no.

We have not seen a lot of Cassie. And then Brie, I think she's really pretty and she got some attention for her appearance. and maybe her entrance with the Australian accent. And also I always remember that in the beginning of our season, in the first couple weeks, Lauren and myself both didn't get a date as well, just like Hannah didn't get a date. So I feel like maybe,

because like he said, he was talking to Hannah, and he did say that he felt so confident in her relationship that he wanted to get to know some of the other girls better and establish those relationships. So it's hard to balance that many. woman. And if you do feel confident about somebody, maybe you can put that relationship on a back burner while you're trying to give other people a chance to show who they truly are. Yeah, I completely agree. I think a lot of the times the front runners, the ones that they're

set on, they don't get dates the first couple weeks. But I, for some reason, don't feel like Brie is one of those examples. I just feel like he's going to fall the wayside. I don't think she's really captured him with any conversation so far. That's too bad. You know who she kind of reminds me of more for you ben but then again we all know that you're seeing someone yeah i was going to say i'm just i'm just i'm just talking now i'm just a talker a talking head um no action involved but you know ashley who she reminds me of who we used to talk about a lot uh who i've got to know a little bit not a lot outside the show she's great is there the uh whitney uh franzway i think her name is um oh yeah she's beautiful gorgeous we watch that season we're like why isn't

she's shown more like she is like stunning and then just never did and then she was gone and we never got to know anything about Whitney. We made it tall ago. That's what so crazy about Whitney is that she made it to like top eight but we still never really got to know or just like on my season. We never got to know Samantha until paradise. I think Samantha had two lines on my season. Yeah, it's really weird.

It's kind of there. There's always that one that is beautiful, stunning, but we don't see a lot from. It'll be interested to see if we see much from Brie. Hey, Ash, I know that you've called in to talk Batchel, but you've also caught in to tell all of our listeners about one of you and Jared's favorite brands. Yeah, so recently Jared and I registered at Creight and Barrel, and it was a really fun morning that we had together. We went in and we discovered that we wanted so many houseware items that we really never even thought of like once before in our life. But then you see it, you're like, oh my gosh, I want to have that. I think we could have registered for everything in that store if we had, you know, multiple huge houses.

But we seriously wanted everything, right, babe? Yeah. Well, this is Jared, by the way, chiming in because I heard McEnbarrow with my ears burked up. It was probably one of the coolest days because it feels like you're just shopping for free. And I love Crane Barrow. We watch a lot of, you know, House Hunters. House owners, H-C-TV, all that good stuff. So now we're very much into buying for our dream home one day.

and so going to create a barrow and just be like, ooh, I like this. Ooh, I like this. It felt like we were shopping for free, which was awesome. He means shopping for free because it's a registry so that people aren't going to be buying for it, and we can pick out what we want and not have to actually spend the money. I love the fact that if we were debating on something, whether we didn't know we were going to want it in a store, and then we came home, we were still thinking about it. We can go online or on the app and just add it to our registry.

and I think we're even going to go shop a little bit more this week and register for some more things because just like browsing around the store is so much fun. The Crate and Barrow employees are so knowledgeable about all the products. So you know that what you're adding to your registry is perfect for your home and lifestyle. And what I love is that Frayton Barrow has these pieces that are timeless, they're classic. They are going to go with whatever short of decor you're going to make your house,

even in 10 years, you know? Yeah, it was just so much fun. When we were in there, we were even thinking about eating healthier because there were so many tools to make food, healthy food, fun. I was like, I need a juicer. I want that mixer. I want that, like, the salad tosser, you know, the one that cleans your lettuce. I would eat salad so much more if I had the salad cleaner.

So anyway, Crane Barrel, it's great. It's going to evolve with your style. we're going to go back because we can't get enough. And you can start your registry at Creighton Barrel now at Creightonbarrel.com slash gift registry. So head over to Creightonbarrel.com and start your Quentin Barrel wedding registry right now. Ash, before you go, I know, are you able to hang out on the beach at all with Jared this week? We hung out a little bit on the beach.

I like in this old fart now because. I, like, want to lie in bed and get extra sleep when we are on, like, a working vacation, then lie out and get tan. Like, I know I'm old now because getting tan is not the point of a vacation, just getting restive. Ashley, I love you. You've just, this is in the weirdest year of my life to just watch you transition. This is the best ever. That's so funny.

That's not Ashley I knew a year ago. I know. It's kind of sad. Oh, no. you're doing great um but we've got to hear i really want to hear how you and kendall feel about demi this is a topic that's blown up our emails our twitter handle is going crazy people can't figure out dimmy they don't hate her you know she's not a villain she's just confusing and i want to hear what you and kendall think um i think she's adorable at the same time it's the age shaming

is difficult for me to get over. I feel like it's already difficult to go into a situation with a bunch of younger girls. And if you are older than The Bachelor, it's not as easy. And I see that she's been making fun of Tracy a lot. And I don't know, it kind of makes me cringe a little bit. It does make me cringe a little bit. I don't know if she's intending to be mean or ages at all, but, um, it, you know, it kind of left me with a bad taste in my mouth about her. I think she's just being a total ham. I think she's just saying anything that's going to like stir people.

Yeah. I don't think she's a villain, like you said, Ben. She's a, she's a boring villain if that's just supposed to be. She's really just a pest to me. I'm like, I'm not even laughing at you. Because a lot of the times villains, I'll be like, oh my God, I actually love watching that person because I cannot believe how outrageous they are. I can't believe how horrible they are.

My jaw is dropping. Sometimes what they're saying is so horrible that it's funny. And everything that she says, like, I just kind of watch with a straight face. I'm like, okay, move on. But the spanking. The spanking. I mean, Colton was not into that at all. He did not want to do that.

Oh, there's nobody that you could spank and who would make it more awkward than Colton. I mean, he could not have made that more awkward. He made that so weird. Seriously. Hey, Ash, you're right. You said it best. As always, Ash, I can Eddie in with the breakdown. We miss you here in the studio.

Kindle's holding her own, but we love you, Ash. You said it best. Demi just seems more like a little pest, and I think that's the best way to describe it. Hey, I know you're busy. You've got a lot of work to do, and Jared's probably standing over your shoulder waiting to go play. So get out of here. We'll miss you and we'll see you soon. Bye, love.

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But before we get to the group day I want to talk a little bit About the one-on-one with Elise I think America is going to fall in love With this person after this day Elise showed herself to be Elegant, poised She just showed herself to be an amazing woman

And for that I fell in love with that I thought she was absolutely terrific And just a really good catch No matter who falls for her Oh she has a tremendous amount of kindness and she just also seems to be so well spoken and very mature i i definitely i definitely loved seeing a lot of her on that one-on-one date it's one of those dates though that were like okay

that was a defining moment in this season it was incredible to watch but there isn't a lot to talk about other than the fact that her story is impactful and incredible and she's used it like she said uh i thought this was the cool thing that got me just so hyped um listening to her was she said you know those pain, those tough things in life we can use as a platform to make something better. And that really, to me, kind of define the whole date is this woman is using her platform now to make life better for somebody else. And so for me, I just, I think Elise is just a catch. And I'm excited to get to know her better through this season.

Same. Same. I'm very excited to get to know her. Moving on, then we'll mark Elisa's date up to an A plus. We'll say it was great. We're really, really just thankful that she's on this season and that we, again, you know, as a Bachelor Nation contestant, that

somebody like her comes on to this show, because it just represents this whole thing a lot better. And somebody else that represents Bachelor Nation really well is our next in studio guest, Rebecca Cruz is in studio with us right now. Rebecca, welcome to the Almost Shamish podcast.

What's good, guys. How are you? I'm glad to be here. We just a little bit of briefing. We saw Rebecca and her husband Terry on this last episode. of The Bachelor, leading the women through their final group day of the episode. Rebecca, I know Kendall's got a thousand questions for you, but I want to start by saying, how in the world did you get on the show?

Well, you know what? I got on the show because I've been married for 30 years to this amazing actor who people to, I guess people seem to think we know something since we survived the NFL and Hollywood it together. And, you know, we had a reality show a few years back. And so we've just gotten a lot of love and respect and support for our family and for the dynamic of our marriage. We've been through a lot. And somebody, you know, some power that be decided that we should come on and give some advice. And it was tremendously exciting to do so. I absolutely loved that date because you see a different side of someone when they are pushed to their limit physically.

Yes. Did you see, I mean, which girl stood out to you? That's interesting. You were talking about Elise? Yes. I won't say that she stood out physically, but she did stand out in that I felt that Colton ran to her aid quite frequently. Like when she was pushing the little sled and couldn't get it out of the rocks, you know, he jumped right off his spot and ran in there to rescue her and did that more than one. And I was like, somebody has captured the heart. That's so telling. It's so telling when you want to be a teammate with somebody and to help them.

It's such a male thing, right, to rescue, to dive in. You know, my husband will see me carrying a suitcase. I'm perfectly capable of handling. And he comes running in, babe, I got that. I got that. That's not a good look for you to be struggling with the suitcase. Yeah, it's all about being a gentleman. Yes, very much.

The female is, of course, capable of doing that, but wanting to be there. wanting to support her. Right. And look, we give birth to children. We do all kinds of very tough physical things. Oh, yes. But that doesn't mean that I want to lug my own 50 pound suitcase through LAX. You know, I'm like, thank you, honey. I'll take it. And what was your favorite challenge on that date? My favorite challenge had to be, what was this one where they run with the big heart? They had to run with the heart and put it up on the pedestal. The medicine. The medicine ball.

The medicine ball. She was struggling. I saw her arm shaking as she was putting it on top of the pedestals. I love that because it's exciting to watch people run and to watch them carry things. Some of the others, like watching them push the sled, I just thought, why are we doing this in this ugly lot with rocks? And pulling the limo, too. Yeah. And, okay, I almost feel like, who was the first girl that pulled the limo?

I almost feel like there were the brakes on with a limo on the first limbo pull. Oh, yeah. Or Cassie, one of those two. And then the second one, it just seems so easy to pull the limos. You know, that's reality television, right? It's so real. Rebecca, fill me in a little bit. So how hard is it to pull a limo?

Well, in reality, if a car is in neutral, you know, a couple females could push a car. But pushing is a stronger position of strength than pulling. Pulling is very difficult. So, you know, just I used to run track and play basketball, and I lift weights. And I can tell you a woman's strength is in her lower body. So to get behind a car and push it is not nearly as difficult as like using that upper body torque and trying to walk forward. You know, somebody thought that was a good idea. All I was thinking is, mm-hmm, we're going to.

have to fix this real quick. You know what I mean? I did track and cross country as well in college and definitely. I mean, I think the legs are the powerhouse of the woman. Yeah. And so in those challenges, I feel like the challenge I'd probably like the most there was, I probably would have liked

the medicine ball won the most because you can transfer the weight to your legs and you know. And it was just fun to watch. It's just fun to watch someone, pick something up and run with it. You know, it's why we love those silly little obstacle games and, you know, watch them fall. or can they balance it, you know, and it's quick motion.

You know, some of the other challenges were kind of slow and laborious. And then, like, you know, the ring thing, hold the thing together. It's hard to do, but it's not real fun to watch. Well, it's interesting because in terms of the dynamic of the girls, because we're on week three now, how did you, how was it observing all the girls trying to vibe for holding attention? And who's more aggressive in trying to get his attention? No, I will confess. I don't remember everybody, but I'm looking at their pictures. Hold on. I'm looking at their pictures. And I remember one girl, every time she came running around the ring, she was jumping up hugging Colton. I was like, she trying a little hard.

Hey, Rebecca, as we continue on here, if you could give one piece of advice to these women, right? And not on The Bachelor and not how to get through reality television, but just how to build and find that relationship that matters. What would you and Terry say? Now you write up my alley, honey gun, because let me tell you something. I'm working on a book called How to Find and Marry the Right Man. And the one thing that I absolutely say about this process, this journey of finding a person that you think you want to spend your life with, is that first of all, you have to know who you are and what you really want. There are so many people who fall in love with someone who does not want the same things they want. want in life. And then you're in love, but you're in disagreement. You're not on the same path. And ultimately, those choices dissolve your union. You know, I've seen people that are dating each other living together. He wants kids and she doesn't. That's a very big deal breaker.

Huge. She's a huge deal breaker. Career. I knew that I wanted to marry somebody in the arts because that's what I was doing. And so, believe it or not, I made a list, okay? Boo had to fill out an application to get with me because I had a list of all these things. I said he has to want kids, at least four. He has to love the arts, either music or acting, or turned out my husband was a visual artist. And he also was a break dancer back in the day, which you guys seen him do in all these movies. So he loved performing, though that wasn't what he was studying in school. And then I said, you know, I want a man who has faith.

I want someone that shares my values, you know. And I kind of had this list, you know, this kind of picture. And I had a picture of where I wanted to go. So if you want to go work on the pipeline in Alaska, I'm not dating you. I'm not going to Alaska, okay? I grew up in the cold. I grew up in Indiana, went to college in Michigan. I wanted to live in the warm weather.

So when my... Time out, Rebecca. Yeah. Where'd you grow up in Indiana? Gary, Indiana, honey. Michael is my home. I'm from Warsaw, Indiana. Warsaw.

Yeah, about an hour and a half. Yes, I like you. So who's you're in the house? That's right. Girl. All right. Keep going. Oh.

That's awesome. But you got to know who you are and what you want. And then you got to know what you don't want, you know. If you're dating a guy who doesn't pay his bills, that's not going to be cute when he's your husband. You know, because one thing I remember my pastor said to me years ago before he married my husband and I. He said, you have to love him enough that if you close your eyes today and he never changes, could you live with him the rest of your life? I was just talking about that with my friend and saying, you don't want to walk down the aisle with somebody that you feel like, oh,

there's something that's a little bit off, but we'll figure this out as we go on. Honey, you're going to be living with it is what you're going to do. Yes. Because people don't change a whole lot. I'm not saying people don't grow and change. But you can't. not live um in a loving relationship always trying to change someone and listen we all do we all have things that we wish they do better pick up your clothes or close the toothpaste or put the seat down or you know those are little things but if you have major major disagreements about what you want in life no amount of force is going to turn that person into your your dream spouse or your lover it it's um it's a good bit of wisdom that i took and i believe with all my heart it's why i

still am married to my college sweetheart yeah and i think the most important thing for me especially one thing that has been different with joe than anyone else that have ever dated is that his amount of kindness and empathy towards other people right is remarkable and that's a huge a huge thing for me. And also finding someone that could laugh at everything. With my family, one of the major, whenever we went through something heartbreaking or difficult, we would learn to laugh at it. And so I feel like having the same humor is incredibly important as well. And seeing a best friend in somebody. Yes. I always say that I married my best friend. People ask me this on the red carpet all the time. What is the secret? And the answer that I

typically give is what I call the F word forgiveness because you have to let things go. You, you know, it's very easy to pick up little grudges in your marriage and you just look up one day and you're just mad about everything. You're just mad, you know. And but the other thing that I always say is marry your friend. Um, I know it's cliche. You probably hear people say it all the time. But there are times that just my friendship with Terry has kept us together. Just my love for him as a person, as a human being, when the romance wasn't great, or the kids were given us hell, or the finances were bad. I still was so rooting for him as a person, and he was rooting for me, that I couldn't imagine life without him. It just, you know what I'm saying?

He's still someone I generally just like to be around. And a lot of women sleep on that. Now, I'm going to school some of you young chicks okay some of you some of them get caught up in the game they're caught up in but he's not making the money yet and he my husband was broke okay when we got married we were both broke i was actually the breadwinner when we got married and i paid the bills and but i knew what was inside of terry you know what i'm saying and so many times you know when we make that list, well, he's got to be, you know, six foot three, and he's got to be muscular, and he's got to be financially stable, and he's got, no kids. Well, a lot of people have kids nowadays, you know what I'm saying? So, so the core of who a person is, the core of their

character is really the only value judgment that you have. It really, really is, because those outer circumstances will change. Yeah. And I've, it's interesting. Love is never what you expect it to be. I think I also had a whole list of things that I wanted, the person that I dated, to fulfill. And I learned with Joe that, you know, you have to have the core things. At the same time, you can't look at somebody and say, you are responsible for my happiness. And a lot of the time, I would look at people that I dated, and if I felt like I was in a bad mood, I would look at them and say, you should make me feel happy. can you read my mind and tell me that I'm upset?

Yeah. There's no such thing as that. You have to, people don't know how you feel unless you tell them. Right. And that goes both ways. I always find that I don't, hmm, what's the right word? I've heard it said that men only use so many words in a day and that, you know, men use 15,000, women use 25,000, right?

These are all these. I read a book by Dr. Deborah Tannen years ago called You Just Don't Understand. and she's a sociologist and this is some older research but it still proves true that the way we communicate is very different and so a man will think he told you how he feels but to me I'm like you didn't say anything you know that gave me a clue to what's going on inside you and and so that nonverbal that you know my husband may not always say honey I'm pissed about what you said to me but his action will show me you know he'll do something a little a little snide and I'll go what's wrong with you you know and he'll go well you were cracking all

my lumps in my head and I'm like well I was kidding you know because we joke a lot in our house but but he won't always verbally verbally tell me that I hurt his feelings I was speaking with my friend about this earlier um whenever you date somebody it's almost a if it's a different language and you have to learn that language yes you do the more you're with them and so whenever joe and i are in an argument um i'll always pause and say i i still don't understand you completely i'm still learning about how to handle things and how to deal with things right so it's a constant very much like you're learning a different language or a different instrument you have to put work in and slowly you will master that instrument in a way no absolutely

sensitivity to I'm a mom just like with my kids my daughter won't say anything when she's upset but she'll go to the fridge right so I'll be like what's wrong you know what's wrong honey bear

nothing my daughter Winnie is about to be 16 and she just auditioned for a performing arts high school that she's wanted to go to and she's very nervous and she's a shy girl and, you know, has had some struggles with school. So we all know when Winnie's upset, there's certain things she does, you know. And so you tend to feel that way about kids.

You know, you tend to feel like you can read them. But I tend to feel with an adult, use your words. You can say how you feel. You can tell me that pissed you off. You can tell me, right? But I find I have a male child. He's my only boy. and I find that this thing is genetic,

this tendency to express things another way like my brother used to do if I teased him about his ugly shirt. He just hit me. He wouldn't say, dang, sis, that was cold. He just popped me, you know? It's more action. My brother was the same way where, well, usually my sister

and I would always say everything. right almost you know just like it was like a storm of emotions and and words very quiet and kept to himself it's in a relationship it's important to know what kind of person yeah you're you're with also I feel like I feel like you do a lot of growing in a relationship and you can adjust to knowing how you work together you know with Joe and I in the beginning it was a little bit difficult he's a little more reserved and then later on in our relationship you start to see someone as safety right you know and that's an extremely important. You never want to betray the trust of someone when they do open up to you and maybe they don't open up to everybody else. And the reason why I feel so special with Joe is that he isn't very open with everybody, but he's open with me. Right. And you have to honor that trust and you have to preserve it. Right. And so that's, I think that's one of the most beautiful things in a relationship is to be the safety for someone and then they're yours. Well, see, and the problem is I'm married to a comedian. So there's no safety in my house.

I tell my husband something personal. He will play the dozen. He will go on stage and tell. He will play the dozens on me in a minute. My husband grew up in a home where they played the dozens. Now, do y'all know what playing the dozens is? No. Okay, this is, this is a hood term for putting everybody down.

Okay? So playing the dozens is when you get in a circle and you say, your mama's so big, she walk around the house. And she walks around the house, right? And then the other kid replies back, your face so ugly even mother nature don't want to look at you and they and it's a game and they go back and forth now I did not grow up with this behavior in my home um though I am my mother is African American I grew up in this kind of fluffy educated stuffy um upper middle class family right we sat

around the dinner table we dressed up we tucked our napkins in and we spoke very politely to each other at the table. So I show up at my husband's Thanksgiving dinner with his family and they're all insulting each other, right? They're all like, you got a big head. You got a big nose. And they're all laughing and I'm going, oh, clutch my pearls. Different dynamics. So my husband is ruthless. You know, you've seen how funny he is on TV and he's very charming and likable. And he is. But at home at Thanksgiving, it's like, mommy got a big head. You know, or, you know, and, you know, and I'm like, Terry, you're teaching the children to be disrespectful. He's like, whatever.

And then they all jump in, but then we all turn. I call him milk dudhead and then they call him milk dudhead and then. It's therapeutic to be able to make fun of each other. Very much so. Rebecca, I think this is like you're touching on what so many people have wondered. And one of the questions that are listeners is written in for you is, you know, how do you make this thing work, which I obviously asked you and you're touching on it. There's an authenticity and a genuineness to your relationship with Terry that

We all see, and, you know, with your background of faith and your background and your commitment to Terry, it's really awesome for so many young people out there to kind of use you to as a representation of how a couple operates. Before you go, because I know you're busy, we really want to say thank you for coming on The Bachelor and thinking you can come on on the podcast. Is there anything out there that you, you know, your book, you're obviously talking about any projects that you and Terry are working on together, any projects that Terry's working on that you're working on that you'd like to tell her, listen. listeners about. Oh, sure. Well, since Mommy is on the podcast today, I'm going to talk about my music project. I have some singles out on iTunes, Spotify, all those places under both Rebecca Cruz and my alter ego is Regina Madre. And all those songs are up on iTunes, Destiny, I'll keep holding on, one goodbye in 10, really awesome music that I'm promoting as an independent artist. So check me out in the music scene, doing a lot more press and performances on that

and doing new music. So new music coming out. husband and I are working on a book together, yet untitled, about, not just about marriage, but about overcoming obstacles and finding success in various areas of life, marriage, finances, pursuit of career, all the things that people tend to ask us, like, how did you make it, how did you stay together, how did you keep your family, you know, my kids, thank God so far, nobody's in jail, nobody's on the pole. Nobody in jail. At this point, fingers crossed, right?

And then I am working on some materials of my own, giving advice to women, advice to mothers, advice to single women. Just the stuff I've lived through, I'm not a Ph.D. and I'm not a doctor. I just have a degree in life and the book of life. And we just want to share what we've been through and encourage other people that they can make it where they're trying to go. I love that. Thank you so much.

Thank you. You're really the greatest. Thanks for coming in. Thanks for talking about everything. Tell Terry, I'm a big fan. Rebecca, I'm a big fan of you. And I can tell you that to your face. But tell Terry for us.

Thank you for coming on the show. We appreciate you both. And thanks for being an amazing example of how a couple can love and work and like each other for 30 years. I know. We got married at 10. Thank you guys. Thanks a lot. Thank you.

Um, Kendall, but do you brush your teeth? I do brush my teeth twice a day, maybe three. That's interesting. So do I. And I use quip. Uh, all of our listeners out there, you've heard me talk about quip. We love quip. Uh, Kendall and I both brush our teeth.

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I don't know if I've changed. I don't know if I have a travel toothbrush that I use, which is Quip. And before Quip, listen to this is crazy. I don't think I changed that travel toothbrush that I used to have for a year. I wonder like all the bacteria that's living in there, you know, because you know your mouth is full of just like live things. Good thing. I wasn't kissing anybody. You know, they also did, well, now you are, so you have to be careful. That's probably why you're starting to use QIP because you're starting to kiss somebody right now. Um, that's why I love quip and why over one million happy, healthy mouths do too. Quip starts at just $25. And if you go to get quip.com slash almost famous right now,

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I don't change a lot of this out. Like I bet I change my toothbrush whenever I lose it. It starts cresting maybe on the sides. You see like the crust of the toothpaste. I can't do that. That's the best. Kendall, Ash and I talk every week about shopping.

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That's T-H-R-E-D-U-P dot com slash almost famous threadup.com slash almost semis for an extra 30% off today. Terms apply. the last group date of this episode was interesting obviously we just had rebecca on she's great fantastic great advice from her and i think that's what these women really were going after on the group date but it's the evening portion as we talked about early on the podcast that really matters and something major happened outside of everything else it really focused on one thing colton sending somebody home during the group date um i was completely surprised that he sent Caitlin home because she seems he seems like he was really interested and intrigued by her in the

beginning. And it is only week three. So you think that he would give her more of a chance to show who she was. At the same time, if you're not interested in someone, you're not interested in somebody. And there's no use wasting their time or your time in keeping them on. But I have to say I was not, I did not see that coming at all. I really respect the kind of the lead that he took there, though. You could see the conversation wasn't going well. You could see it was a little awkward. I mean, I'm sure in real life it maybe was just as awkward. There's just some weird responses and some like, you could just, they weren't clicking. He had obviously, that wasn't the first time they had talked. So this is probably something it was building up. And Colton just said,

I'm not doing it. I'm not going to bring, like, drag this girl along any longer. It's, it's done here. For me, I thought that was maybe the mark of Colton saying, okay, this is about my experience with these women and these, and this is not working. I respected that move. proud of him for it. Yeah. And one other thing I'm kind of proud of Colton for, even though it's not really my place to be proud of him. But I guess all the listeners probably are is then he cancels the cocktail party to do a pool party. And at the pool party, the Hannah Kalin, you know, claws come out again. And he doesn't have it. Where does this go now? Where do you see this one thing ending up? There has to be some sort of clarification because they're both going back and forth and saying

the exact same thing. They're both saying the other girls untrustworthy, that toxic is a word that they use a lot. And you can't say those things without having the evidence to back it up. And so right now, Colton probably has very strong feelings for both girls. And he probably wants to keep both of them around. But he's coming to terms of the fact that there is an ultimatum and he probably does have to get rid of one of the girls because it's going to grow into a bigger deal and distract even more from his relationship with either of them. So I, I, I, I, I, I can understand the frustration because right now I'm not getting any answers. I don't know why they're fighting.

I know that they were in a competitive environment, which it makes sense to not maybe have the best of relationship with someone that you're in a competitive environment with. But yeah, I'm just curious. I don't know why. I also feel like with Kaylin, there's something that she's not saying. And I also don't think that I don't think Hannah thinks it's her place to say. what Kaylin has gone through, which I do respect. But I feel like Kaylin does have to open up a little bit more to stay.

Because I almost feel like he would send both of them home if this isn't resolved or he doesn't have any clarification on it. I think we're going to learn a lot about both these people, especially Kalen. I think right now Kaylin has the upper hand. It's just the vengeance of the show and we're seeing it come out. But there is, I think this story gets a lot deeper. I have a feeling that's just a lot more going on than what we realized. but they've got to start talking right now it's just we don't we just don't know i will say one thing

i took away from that scene is never make a ridiculously wild monster face on national television and then drag it out i mean hannah will never live that down that will become a jiff that will be used over and over again forever and ever just her i personally think that was epic i loved that face i'm sure it was a wild she went for it i mean you have to admire somebody who just goes for it and who has like that monster face you know i i i liked it personally unbelievable uh hey kendall you kill it again thank you for being the best guest host ever before we send you off i know we have an email from one of our wonderful listeners out there easton uh we've just hired on this guy with this like very just sensual magical voice to read this email

to us his name's mark he's usually in studio um mark read the email away And this person is dying to know Who has been dating from Colton's season? He can't reveal it for a couple of weeks? Hmm, is that when she gets kicked off the show? Just a theory. Either way, good luck, happy for you. Okay, who is this mystery woman that we keep hearing about?

Oh, first of up, I just love Mark's voice. Because that voice is just awesome. Like, you cannot get more just old school radio than Mark. Yeah, she's not from Colton's season. The, you know, the reason that I just don't, didn't want to put out names yet is, is at some level. I didn't really mean to slip up. I didn't think I slipped up. I don't, I'm not hiding anything.

I think, you know, you go through public relationships before and you kind of deal with that pressure. And there's just the right timing to it all to kind of make it a thing and publicly put everything out there. And so I just wanted to kind of tell Colton that, you know, long distance isn't easy and it's hard and that dating's fun and it's exciting. And I've been able to get back into it and just try to relate with them a little bit. So life's good, but she's not from Colton's season.

Not at all, not from the show. So thank you for writing. Thank you for caring. Thank you for the support and more to come. Hey, before we go, I have to give out a couple thank yous. One is to create and barrel. Start your crate and barrel registry now at crate and barrel.com backslash gift registry. Robin Hood, a free stock to help you build your portfolio.

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Thank you to be the absolute best guest co-host of all time. Kendall, thanks for coming on. Thank you for having me. I had a lot of fun. We appreciate you. And hey, Kendall, we leave every episode the same way. Just follow my lead here. I've been Ben.

I've been Kendall. We'll talk you soon. Bye. Follow the Ben and Ashley I, almost famous podcast on IHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.