The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Plot Twist Proposal

Episode Date: June 1, 2022

Ben and Ashley have the latest in Bachelor Nation headlines! We tell you everything about what happened when Becca Kufrin popped the question to Thomas. How did she become one of the biggest Paradise success stories?? Tayshia is hosting the MTV Movie Awards! What does this mean for her future in the franchise? And, Ben opens up about a troubling situation in his hometown. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It is a very special episode of the Almost Famous podcast. I'm here and my co-host, The Beautiful, the Wonderful. Ashley, how you doing? The Beautiful, the Wonderful, Ben Higgins. I am doing quite well today. How are you doing? Actually, can I tell you a story? This is going to start out as a ramble because I use the word quite.

I'm here to listen. Okay. My sister's staying with me. I am the kind of person who literally cannot stand getting rid of things in the fridge. I hate wasting food. I hate spending money on food when we have food in the fridge. But mostly I hate wasting food. Like, you know, that little thing that your grandma would say, you know, there are people starving in other country right now.

you eat your food always comes back to me and the other day she was looking for like kind of a 10 p.m. snack. You know, she'd already had dinner but it was early and she was hungry again and she was like, Ashley, come here.

Tell me what is actually edible in your fridge. Like what is not outdated? Mm-hmm. And before I tell you what I consider not outdated, what do you, Ben, consider to be outdated food? Like, at what day do you stop eating leftovers? Oh, I mean, that's a tough question. It's dependent on what food we're talking about.

Like, if we're talking about a cheese, I'll typically look for a mold. If we're talking about a milk, I don't mess with milk, like expired milk. If we're talking about meat, I don't mess with expired meat. I'll push, like, best by date by a few days. But you can, but like those things you don't mess with. fruit goes bad so fast that you're either going to eat it or you're not vegetables the same thing um so you got to give me a category because most things like i grew up my like i came from a really like like cushy life like my you know northern indiana middle

class um like cushy like but we always bought like we went to the the grocery store in town that had the like uh day old bread And, like, it just, like, was a thing I grew up with is, like, hey, no matter where you're at in life, you're going to not, like, overindulge on stuff that's just as good. And so I've always kind of pushed it, I guess. I've never gotten sick. I don't want to do, I don't want to walk that alley. Yeah. Like, if the jelly says that it expired in April, I'm still eating it through May.

Sure. Yeah, there's preserve. I mean, there's preservatives in that. Yeah, of course. Okay. So what I'm talking about is, like, restaurant leftovers or, like, you made dinner leftovers. And if it's meat, they probably tell you that on the internet to do it like two to three days. I'm probably okay with it.

Like if there's like chicken tenders, I'll probably throw the chicken tenders in the air fry or four days later. And I'll make it crispy again, right? Yeah, I'm pushing a week on leftover. Okay, I'm playing, okay, I'm glad you said that because I'm pushing a week too. Yeah, I would. I probably six days. I had some Chinese food that I got Monday and I ate it Friday. I wasn't feeling like that was bad.

So that when I tell you that I told her that the spaghetti in the fridge was quite fresh, which I'll say it, it probably wasn't quite fresh, but it was totally edible and fine. How many days do you think it was in there? Three. Okay. It was made on, it was made on Monday, and it was Saturday. yeah six five five to six days five to six days i mean it's not going to taste great there's it's spaghetti yeah there's not going to be poisonous no there's nothing in a spaghetti it's cooked

meat uh it's it wasn't even meat it was just red sauce just plain on tomato sauce oh geez that yeah you're you're you're not even cooking with gasoline there you're just good like you're You're just solid. I know. Eat it up. She demoralized me. She thought it was so obscene for me to offer her my sister, six-day spaghetti. I'm not offering a guest to come over and eat my six-day spaghetti, but my sister, come

on. No, I mean, no, I would, it just matter a season of life, too. Like, I remember in college, my buddies would have, like, pizza laying out for two full days, and I would grab a slice. It would be like hard and the cheese would kind of be like a plastic cover depending on what obviously company you got your pizza from. And like that's not even in the refrigerator.

I mean, that thing is just full of anything. And I would pound a couple pieces of pizza, no problem. 1,000%. Okay, thank you so much. And you know what's really funny and kind of ironic about this? Jared comes home from work two hours later. I come downstairs. I'm like, what are you doing?

He's like, just having some spaghetti. And then I was like, I will join you in that. And then he and I both ate the five to six day old spaghetti. And how do you feel? We feel great. And then I threw it out afterward, the remainder. And Ben, look what I got in here. I got a little.

Generous coffee. There we got. Generous coffee in here. Well, I'm very thankful you're drinking generous coffee. Even if you had an upset stomach, even if your body wasn't functioning at 100% after your six-day old spaghetti, I promise you generous coffee would kick you right back. into gear. It's like medicinal. I can't make that claim. Probably publicly. It's probably illegal, but it's good coffee. Ashley, it was a long weekend for so many people. We do, I mean, I do,

and I know you do want to sit here and just say, you know, I know based on even my high school, college, then we can go into the elderly, people who have passed serving our country, serving our country so that we could sit here and talk like we do and say the things we do and even have the option to go to a grocery store and buy food. So I hope this Memorial Day was a day for so many of us. I know it's a chaotic time in the world, and I know that right now the wars and the rumors of wars and our opinions on war have, you know, definitely divided the country or there's a lot of different things. But no matter what, we can, I think, sit here and say, hey, thank you to those

who are serving our country in whatever capacity and definitely a memorial day is a day to recognize those who have passed serving our country. And so with that, I just want to say thank you to the families who have lost loved ones who probably listened to this, because there's many. And I hope yesterday was a day of celebration and remembrance for the lives. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Ben,

do you have anybody in your family who served in a big war? Oh, yeah. I mean, you got to think, though. I feel like you would be from like a sort of military family. Yeah. Well, you got to think we're talking like my grandpa just passed away who was 96. And so World War II was something that like was not an option for most. people. And so he served in World War II. One of my best friends in high school is still

serving in the military. I have Jessica's best friend's husband is in the Navy still to this day, a very high-ranking position. But my family, yes, of course. You know, you had the Vietnam war in between World War II. And then you just had all the, I actually didn't have anybody close to me. My family, I think based on age and probably choice, you know, serve in Afghanistan. I don't know of anybody who is currently in the military within my family. But yeah, of course. My grandpa is the best example. It was a lot of his stories came from those times good and bad. Yes. My grandpa, he fought in D-Day. He was there on the beaches of Normandy. And it's just so crazy to think, like, would I, you know, you just like, Would you be here?

Yeah. No, you would not be. I can promise you that if things would have gone different. So, yeah, yes. Memorial Day is always a day for me because I do. I put myself in those shoes. And I think so many people do too if you just take a second. Like it's a fun day because we get the day off of work and you get to cook out.

And usually people travel and gather and camp and hike and go by the pool. And it's the first day of the, you know, the lakes really open up and all that stuff. but I oftentimes ask myself, you know, I'm 33 now, so I'd be an old, old person if I, if I went to, into the military. My grandpa was like 18. That's 15 years ago for me. And it just makes me think about those people who lost lives. I'll tell you a quick story that always, I'm always reminded of a Memorial Day.

There's an incredible bar in New York City called McSorley's. McSorley has this story. I think you could kind of call it, um, a tail because I don't know if it can be proven, but I think there is documentation of this. But McSorley's has been around. It's one of the oldest bars in the U.S., incredibly old. I would try to say the date, but I'd have to look it up. Anyways, before the kids in New York City went off to war for World War I, they had these lights above the bar that were connected by a pole. McSorley said, hey, how about you come in and get a turkey dinner on the night with your families

the night before you go to war. And then everybody would take out the wishbone. Oh, thank you. Our producer just told us McSorley's was starting 1854, super old. And so you'd finish your dinner, you'd take the wishbone from the turkey and you put it up on the light. You'd hang it, right? you'd put it up there so that the V attached to the pole that the light was on. Then when you came home for more, you could take a wishbone off. The thing that always struck me, and one of the reasons why when you go into McSorily's now, there's still many wishbones on the light that never got taken off by people not coming back from war, which was, you know, it's something, I don't know, it's weird.

It's like I went to this bar to have a good drink. And that's always stuck with me a memorial day is these kids coming in with their families, having dinner, putting it up there. some returning taking off and some not being able to take it off. Yeah. So, anyways, that was, yesterday was a good day for members, a good day for cookouts. I hope everybody listening had a great day with family or friends or just by yourself. If you just took the day to be by yourself.

Also, Ashley, as we do this little host chat, it's a little more serious of a host chat for me. If I could get personal, it's been a really, odd week, last week. Of course. Last week was a horrible week. It was a horrible week. But I'm frustrated right now, Ashley. So I spent last weekend, I was invited to an event in Colorado Springs. I was invited to an event hosted by Focus on the Family. If you know Focus on the Family, they've been around forever. They're known to be anti, a lot of things. A lot of things I personally, as a Christian,

am not anti-against. And I think people at this point either it really either angers them or they say, yeah, I get it. I'm on that journey of trying to figure out how to love people better too. And I don't know always where the line is and what I should be holding people to.

And I've just kind of given up holding people to any type of anything other than an idea of loving others, loving themselves, and hopefully loving God. So I was invited to this event, I think, just to, they wanted to kind of share their thoughts and where they're going and where they're at and what they're doing with a group of people

that maybe don't fully agree with everything they're about. And I think that's really healthy. I think it's a really good practice in life, actually, is to surround yourself with people that maybe aren't always a part of your tribe or your network. Yeah, it's very smart. And I left being fairly encouraged. I don't want to go into the details of the stuff they're up to,

but I really enjoyed hearing from their CEO and sitting in a room of 10 people with him and hearing where his heart's at and where he wants to go and how he sees the world and the things that he wants to focus on, a lot of that is outside of anything, like helping make the adoption process more efficient and effective for those wanting to adopt.

Great thing. I think most people, no matter where you're at, would agree with that process. The other one is increasing the punishment for those who control and operate sex trafficking rings. Really great, really good. Now, there's other stuff. Maybe I wouldn't get behind that they're up to.

Again, I don't have to get in details, but those two things I left being like, okay, I can, we can get on the same page on those things. So I left there. I'm driving home, and I get a text Sunday afternoon, and many people who listen to the Almost Famous podcast message me, and this is why I'm saying it, from a home church or a church within my home of Warsaw, Indiana, where a pastor gets up and he admits that he's committed adultery to the congregation. And he kind of frames it in this way that says, hey, I've,

I've sinned against my family. You said this happened when you got home? Yeah, this happened Sunday in Warsaw, and I got text that afternoon. I was at the event until Sunday morning in Colorado Springs, or Saturday evening, I guess. So it happened 24 hours later. And he says, I've committed adultery, and he's framing it as I'm admitting this sin to the congregation, which I think always comes from a place of, hey, I'm a big enough human to admit that I've messed up kind of thing, you know? And so everybody claps.

A young lady walks up on stage and says, well, he just kind of walks out of the congregation and walks up on her own on stage and says, yeah, what he didn't tell you is I was 16 years old when he did this. And the church's reaction, I can't, I don't want to judge the church's reaction. It was a very odd reaction. If you've seen the video, many people have. It was. So it wasn't my reaction just then? No, it wasn't. It was national news. The reaction was confused, I think, would be. And I talked to some people that were part of the congregation that day. How long was he a pastor there for?

35 years. So he's in his mid-60s at this point. But I think the congregation was confused at what was happening. And I have to give him that grace to be like, hey, I know what, like when we watch the video when we know the truth to what was happening, we can go, oh, my gosh, how did the congregation not react in shock and, like, disappointment and whatever things you want to do? They didn't because I think they were confused at what was being said and what was happening. And if it was yeah. And so it was a really hard thing for me to see because here's the truth. And I'll get off

my soapbox in a second. I'm really saddened this week. And then we have the SBC report, the Southern Baptist Convention Report, which many people know about. By the way, that is not my home church. That is not a church that I attended. I know of it because it's in a small town of Wisconsin, Indiana, but it is not a lot of people wondering, is this your church? No, not at all. The church that you're talking about with the adultery. Yeah, it's not your church. So just to be clear, I do know the people that work there. I do know of the families, but it's not my church. I don't know if that makes a difference. People are asking. I guess they were curious. But the SBC report comes out, the Southern Baptist Convention, and they over their time of power,

have, and they have a lot of power, a lot of political power, a lot of religious power. They've covered up 700 cases of sexual abuse and sexual assault within their congregations that would never spoke about. And that came out in the investigation that was just released last week. And then, obviously, we have the school shooting in Texas. And I, you know, it's weird to jump on this podcast and a bit we're going to go through headlines. I think the question I've been asking myself this week is, like, why, what, what are we doing? I think is a lot of the confusion. What are we doing?

Where have we, in both situations, the church and the shooting, like, where have we neglected and pushed aside the preciousness of life? This is not me. I hope, maybe it does. maybe it is coming off as like a preachy thing. It's like questions I want to ask is like, where have we gone wrong? Because we're going somewhere really wrong.

And I guess as a Christian myself, I want to know my role in that. And then also just as a human, I want to know my role in this. And so a lot of this week has been trying to figure out what the hell's happening. And again, this is the third time. I'll make this statement.

But we jump on this podcast and we talk about headlines. We talk about love, and we're going to talk about relationships that are existing within this franchise. And, you know, the franchise used to be a space where it was kind of marketed as an escape from the chaos that is this world. I feel like at this point in time, though, the chaos that is this world is so prevalent and so necessary and so needed that we don't maybe, we can't afford the escape. Like none of us can. And maybe that's my point, is like we have to all be a part of something bringing. us together again because this stuff's tragic again we got to get together again we got to get together

and it seems like every time something like this happens people are even pulled further apart yeah and then i don't know what we have to do to to get bother and to get together i wish i had answers if we had answers right now then i guess the point is if you're listening i think the first step here is if you're listening, just know that, like, because you have breath, you have value and you have purpose and that you belong and you're needed and you're necessary and that there's people that need you and want you to be a place of healing and comfort and listening and love and joy and just know that to be true. Then everything else that comes from this, you can ask your questions on what you think is right and wrong. Those things are up for you to grapple within

yourself but just ask just if you hear anything in this podcast today just leave knowing that if you have breath you have value um and that we need you here and if you feel super alone right now and all of it um reach out to somebody get some support and some help um because we just can't afford to keep this process going if it comes treating men and women like they're obviously when they're kids, or if it is going into a school and murdering innocent victims that if you look at their faces and you see their families and their stories, if you just sit in that and you just know that like, what do you do? What do you say? And so, yeah, I guess if you hear anything in this podcast, just know today when we do our host chat, I'm coming from a place of just

trying to make sure that I know personally, that you know personally, Ashley, and that the people listening know that they just, they got a lot of value. And we need you to be your healthiest and best selves because we just can't afford to keep going down this path. Well, we're going to switch big gears here. We're going to take a break.

We do have Bachelor headlines, a breakdown. A lot of them are really, I was reading through them, a lot of them are really encouraging this week, some really exciting things happening with some of our friends, some people that we love and care about. I also know that Paradise is getting started up, I think, being filmed. We're going to talk a little bit about that. So let's take a break, come back with the Almost Famous Podcast. We're going to break down Bachelor headlines. Hi, my name is Enya Yumanzoor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom.

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It is time for Bachelor Headlines. Our first one is a big one for me. And I know Ashley, you care about these people as well. It feels less personal to me than it did with you because I had a very short period of time with Becca Kufrin hosting Bachelor I'm on stage. She was dating Garrett at the time. So I got to see that relationship. I also was around her as that ended, right? And she decided, and I talked to her and she decided to go on Paradise. I remember that conversation. I was remember where I was at when I got the phone

call. She was like, should I do it or not? You know, with you, I was sitting in the midst of like roller coaster of love and breakups for years. And we're still doing it today. But for me, I'm just so happy for Becca because she is somebody that desires love and wants love. is trying to do the best she can with the platform she's been given. And here's the headline. Becca Kufrin and Thomas Jacobs now are engaged. She had the ultimate plot twist, though.

He said yes. This according to People Magazine. Okay, well, I mean, if you're a bachelor fan, you're listening to this podcast, you know that the two of them are engaged and that she was the one that proposed, but Ben, I need to know whether, like, you are obviously closer to Becca than I am.

So have you talked to her directly? Did you know this was coming? No. So you didn't know that she was going to be. the one proposing. I mean, I guess she wouldn't go around telling everybody this, but... No. I did text with her yesterday. I didn't know she was going to propose. I didn't know they were even getting engaged. I wasn't going to be shocked, just seeing how they were together. And then also, I think one of the big deals for me, I had already planned on proposing to Jessica

during bachelor, like after Bachelor Live on stage. But that period of life is so hard because you're on the road and you're traveling and you're it's hectic and when you have a partner that like supports you and leans in with you and relates with you it brings you closer together and i think thomas just did a great job when beck was on tour of being a great partner to her and so i had i had a feeling this was going to happen sooner than later i definitely had a feeling too i mean she's been talking about how she's going to marry him for a while now she said it in the headline she said on her podcast she had she basically told me at your wedding She just kind of telling everybody at your wedding

that it was just a matter of time before it was going to be them one day and that was so cool and it's so cool that she was engaged twice through this franchise and then decided to go on Bachelor in Paradise and a lot of people were like you know, don't quote quote

downgrade yourself, you were the lead don't go on Bachelor in Paradise now well look what it got her that is incredible super awesome also I think people started speculating that they were engaged when they went to Hawaii, I think, like a week ago.

And it just seemed like there was like a vibe about their Instagrams in Hawaii that seemed like they had been engaged, that maybe they were getting engaged, that they had gotten engaged in Hawaii, and then they were like going to hide it for a few days. But we don't really have details right on where it happened. He said it's a secret that they've been keeping between them, close family and friends, for, quote, a while. And now we're excited to shout it from the rooftops.

I finally found my chauffeur for life and the one who makes my heart smile every single day. I can't wait to do it all with you. Tommy, thanks for making me the happiest gal alive. I love you to the moon and back. And yeah, so he has an engagement ring. He even has a little diamond to disengagement ring.

And she is also wearing a ring. Yeah. I kind of like here too. And I'm sure we are a part of this group. I'm sure we were at some point in time. I don't know how much we bought into the whole thing. But, you know, he, he, his story on The Bachelorette was that he was, he didn't buy into it, Ben. We didn't.

We know. We were like, every week. We're like, really? Like, can we get some, like, some heavy proof as to why this guy's the villain? This doesn't make any sense. We were like, these guys just seem to be hating him for, like, hearsay. Okay. Well, that makes me feel better.

I'm glad that's how we took it because he just has really proved the haters wrong. Like, he's, I mean, and not that he did got engaged to Becca. to prove him wrong. I doubt that's the, I think that's the furthest thing from his mind right now. But if anybody was like questioning his intentions going on the show or questioning who he was as a person, he's now engaged to one of the most beloved people from the franchise. He has been a tremendous partner to Becca. I know that personally. They're very, very happy together. And I mean, yes, it's been public because it is a public relationship because they will have a falling. But they haven't done things that makes you go, wow, they're just,

in this for the fame of it. No, in fact, I would say they did the opposite. Like, they broke up and then they got back together and they've kind of dated quietly. They've held this engagement off from telling the public for a while. I feel like this is like one of the coolest stories that have came out of Paradise or The Bachelor franchise in a long time. And it's one to definitely celebrate. Really, really cool story. And it's mind-boggling to think that they got together a year ago. They've been dating for a year. It feels like yesterday. Yeah, it does. Well, speaking of couples, being together or not, the Bachelorette alum, Michelle Young, this is wild, refutes claims that her and Nate have split after she was spotted without her ring, this according to us weekly. So she was getting drinks or lunch or something with friends

and she was spotted like Ben said without her ring and somebody put the video on the internet I'm not sure whether or not they put it on the internet just saying like look I saw Michelle out to lunch or whether they were like look I saw Michelle out to lunch and she wasn't wearing her ring but whatever happened the video hit the internet and people saw that she wasn't wearing her ring and it caused all these rumors that she and Nate had broken up

And then she took to Instagram And she was like, listen You guys, I'm not a zoo animal That's literally what she said Like our relationship is not like a zoo exhibit The reason that you see me in that video Which I can't believe I'm like getting on here to explain Is that I took off my ring at that table

Had my friend put it on her finger To just see what it looked like on her finger Because like, you know, she's a girl And like girls love to like put engagement rings on her finger because we like to pretend like we're engaged if we're not and we like to see different style rings and all that she's like so if you were like caring enough to take that video

and point out the fact that I wasn't wearing my ring then you should be like caring enough to like make a point that I gave my ring across the table to my friend and then put it right back on yeah yeah so wild so weird just a small I mean it feels like such a small thing for her to have to explain Well, hey, here's a big news. Tasia Adams will host the 2022 MTV Movie and TV Awards.

This is according to Screen Room. So this is a little bit of a misconstrued headline. She will be hosting part of the TV and movie awards. She's going to be doing the reality portion, I believe. Yes, she will be hosting the MTV Movie and TV Awards unscripted. so it'll be the component of it that covers reality TV. But still, like, freaking amazing. Wow, like, way to go, Tasia.

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Our new super secret bestie is The Deva of the People. The Deva of the People. I'm just like, text your ex. My theory is that if you need to figure out that the stove is hot, go and touch it. Go and figure it out for yourself. Okay. That's us. We're in the head.

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This is according to the Daily Mail. So if you want to hear everything and anything that Becca is willing to share about her relationship with Haley, definitely head over to our, like, I would have called Sister Podcast, our I-Heart, our fellow I-Heart podcast, scrubbing in with Becca Tilly and Tenured. So on the podcast last week, she said, So I was prepared for anything and everything, you know, when she revealed her relationship with her. She goes, but I was not prepared for the amount of love and support that we got. Haley has really made me feel brave. And she was always like, people love you and they want to see you happy.

She also said, I've always said, I'll go public. We can go public if I can be in one of your videos. If I can be like the video girl. Jeez. Um, she also said that, um, it was kind of, she, she, when the time came, she was just like, okay, I think I'm ready. I think it's time. And that was, you know, four years after she had been in the relationship. And, you know, like we said last week, I think we said this last week. Um, she never wants to be called secret. You know, she just wanted to be called like their relationship was very private. And she said, like, we've always been very much ourselves. We've held hands in public. We kiss. If I meet someone, I always introduce Haley. Hey. as my girlfriend. I've never been like, this is my friend or this is my best friend. I really made an effort to make sure that there was this distinction between private and secret. And she also said that, you know, this is as far as what you said the headline was saying with her not identifying as a lesbian. She was leading up to this point, I was like, oh my gosh, I'm going to have to dress like my sexuality, my label. And I was never concerned with that. She says, I think that my story is different from other people. She says, I think that my story is different from other people. She's, talks about her sister. She has my sisters. When they've talked to me, they've always said, I'm not, I've never been attracted to men because Becca's sisters are lesbians. And she said they've always

been very confident in who they, they were. And that label meant something to them. So basically, Becca is just not putting a label on her sexuality. Well, it's, you know, I remember even talking to Colton. And he's like, you know, once he came out publicly, there's a problem. There's a process to try to figure it all out uh you know figure out where you fit what has to change what doesn't change and i think what you know colton was telling us what we're hearing from beck here is like nothing about you changes or has to change unless you want it to um and i'm glad because i love becca i'm glad she's a good human i care about her yep and uh it's good to see her um so happy and at peace well actually that's all the headlines we have for you today we do have

a final little note here it's not a headline as much as just um this Kelly Flanagan Peter thing continues to come up um over and over again it's like once a year one of them says something about each other good or bad well right now Kelly Flanagan says Peter Weber's romance was just fun in games. I didn't look at him as my spouse. This, according to Us Weekly, I read this headline and I need you to break down this story for me. I was like, well, okay, that's fine.

They dated. They had fun. There was a quarantine relationship, I guess. But it's interesting to see it go to this level where it was like, it was just fun in games. I thought for a while it was very serious. We had them on the podcast. I thought it was a big thing for them.

Yeah, I don't know. Okay, so she says on the podcast, she goes, I don't think there was one specific thing that led to the fall down, the downfall for me, and Peter's a lot of little things. Peter and I had a lot of fun, but I don't know if I looked up to him in the way that I wanted to look up to my spouse. She said, she continued to compare Pete to the men and her family. She said, I have this with my brothers and my dad,

where if I'm in a moment where I need some sound advice and look for and to look and look for who to go to on important decisions. Like she goes to her dad and her brothers for important decisions. But with Peter, it was just fun in games. She said I could have fun with him, but I wanted more of a man that I look up to. I just didn't look up to Peter in the way that I always hoped that I would look up to my husband. Ooh, ouch.

That hurts. Yeah. Well, that's all we have for you today. Thank you for listening to me, get something off my chest. It's been a weird week, and this is a good place where I get to come and talk with you, Ashley, and to everybody listening, and your feedback and your insights from the listeners are always very welcomed and important. We hope you here. Have a great week.

Enjoy the shortened work week, if you have one. And that we'll be back next week to talk to you once again. Until then, I've been Ben. It's always a pleasure, Ben. I've been Ashley. Bye. Follow the Ben and Ashley I, almost famous podcast on IHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.

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