The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Post-It Tells All

Episode Date: November 7, 2024

Jared joins Ashley to recap the first ever Men Tell All for The Golden Bachelorette!  We try to predict what will happen in the next season, because a few contestants are “off the market”. But what do we think of an older celebrity as the next Golden Bachelor?? Plus, Ashley and Jared share their findings after they analyze facial expressions in the preview for the finale! Anything could happen!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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are you so mean Jessica Jared and I will never be able to say the words it's me without thinking of Rob Schneider

in the hot check I love that movie so much yeah it's a great one Rachel McAdams before she was Rachel McAdams yeah I know was that before

mean girls I think it may have been like six months or four yeah six months of four isn't like that so crazy yeah I remember thinking she was so hot

in that movie and then who would have thought like oh that is Rachel McIntyre Adams. That's similar to the movie Almost Time with, I forget the actor's name, but Bill Nye plays the father where the guy can go and go back in time. And it's right around the time his dad dies. I don't know. But Margo Robbie's in it. Before she was Margo Robbie. It's called About Time. I was like, I don't know. A movie called that. Okay, yeah, About Time. And I remember

watching About Time and being like, that might be the prettiest woman of everything in my entire life. Oh my God. Oh, my God. It's so funny because Rachel McAdams is all. also in that movie, and she places love interest. Yeah, but she, Marga Robbie is like so much hotter. Well, in that movie. In that movie specifically. But then you have an argument like who is prettier, like Margo Robbie or Rayton McAdams. I understand.

There's really, they're all in there. In that movie. In that movie, stunning, all of them. Well, of course, they're all pretty. But in that movie, hold on, I got to finish my thought. Okay, fine. Rage McAdams intentionally doesn't look as good because. You think so?

Yeah, they stress her down. It's supposed to look like more, like, mom-ish. Yeah, exactly. And also I forget, God, I forget the guy's name. But, you know, let's be honest. It's not like he's ugly, but like she's way out of his league. So if it was Rachel McAdams and him, it would be. Jim Sturges?

No, it's, no, Jim Sturge is beautiful. I forget. Donald Gleason, Donald Gleason. We have nothing to say about this episode. Yeah, we'll get to in a second. But now I just want to say, I thought that, should I look it up right now? Yeah, he's redhead. he's a really good actor.

He was in Star Wars. Glaser? Gleason, Gleeson, I believe. I mean, yep, there he is. Or Dom. Donald? No, it's Domnol.

Domnil? Yeah, it's spelled, they just had it. There it is. Oh, Dom Hall. Dom Hall. Gleeson. He's not a bad-looking guy

by any stretch. Oh, okay, yeah. But, you know, I mean, Rachel McAddams is, you know, Rachel McAdams is Jared's like. Great movie, by the way. Holy shit. We haven't seen them.

I remember watching that. and I was like, who is this blonde? I know. Oh, my God. I thought the same thing. I was like, am I a lesbian right now? I was like, listen, I love her to McKinham so much, but bro, go with her. Okay.

You're out of your mind? Anyway, also, could I say that in the hot chick versus where this conversation started? I thought that Anna Ferris was so pretty. I just wanted to look like on a Ferris. I think Ana Ferris is pretty. I think he's underrated. Yeah. Have you ever seen the movie Waiting where it's with her and Ryan Reynolds?

They play. They work in a restaurant. Justin Long's in it. It came out in 2005. It's an old one. Never really took off. New movies are the two of them, huh? And just friends.

But I think she, well, she also wears eyeliner, which Ashley knows is my, I love. Dude, Jared loves Island. Black Islander all the way around. And I think on the first is very pretty. Yes. Anyway, okay. Well, you know who also is very pretty? All Joan and all her men.

Very nice men. This Men Tell All was a celebration of the season, which I, I am glad they did it this way. If they were going to do a men tell all, I'm glad that the structure of the show was this, and they didn't try to insert some sort of drama between the guys, and instead just celebrating the friendships that were gathered. I like that.

Having said that, they should just never have had a med tell all. Okay, but do you know why they had a mental all in my theory, even though it probably cost them a bit? I don't know what the ratio is for, like, what's worth it for them. I'm sure ABC needed a certain set amount of episodes. And plus the structure of the show is set in a way that, you know, it's, it's, it's kind of like, well, of course we'll do a mental law. No, okay. My theory is this.

They did it. Okay, well, yeah, you're right. They're always going to do it. I don't think there's been a season with that one besides Paradise Seasons, which sometimes people are requesting Paradise Seasons over something like that. They've done some sort of catch-ups. Now, an episode like this, you would think would be paired with a regular. episode just because like we needed more especially since it was an hour and a half episode this was an hour and a half it wasn't too much felt like two hours no actually it felt short to me

it's so weird so normally I would think that they would tack on like 30 minutes of real drama from like fantasy sweets or the final two or something and then they would put mentel all at the end of that this week I think they're like okay well the plan is to air it Wednesday after the election, nobody knows whether or not the results will be here by then. People are not thinking about the Golden Bachelorette this week. So it's perfect timing to throw our mental all on a Wednesday night. Nobody needs to see it, but it's there as light, fluffy content if they want it. And if it even gets to air.

I agree. Yeah. They probably should just took a week off. Election week. A lot's going off. Yeah, yeah. Just, you know. Jared, Jared.

Sorry, she's talking to me. Oh. Sorry. No, you're fine. Do you think they would? I think that in a regular week at a regular time, they would have just like done a back-to-back episode. They're just like, no, no, no.

It's okay. Well, there's still are. I agree. You know what I'm talking about? Yes, of course. They didn't want to put anything consequential into this episode because they knew. Exactly. Not a lot of people are probably going to watch it because it's the day after election.

No one's thinking about the Golden Bachelorette. Even though, you know, it was funny. I went on Yahoo this morning just to check the news. And the top, like, scroll side by side was, you know, Trump, about Trump winning the election. And then right next door was Golden Bachelorette recap. And I'm like, God, I can't believe those two things are side by side. That's funny. All right.

So the episode itself has absolutely zero drama, which is wonderful, the least dramatic reanimous. Is it wonderful? No, this is wonderful. I think it's wonderful because they didn't even try. Because they were like, oh, we don't have any, so let's not try. So it really could have just been called, like, the celebration of the men. You were bored, and I actually thought it was sweet. I didn't, I wasn't particularly bored, but I will tell you this.

It's very sweet. I qualify episodes based on, like, is this a scroll episode, like, where I'm on my phone scrolling or trying to do something else while watching, which, of course, you guys, this is my job to recap. I don't do that. But, like, it's my compulsion. Do I wish I would be doing that? You know what I mean?

Now, this case, because it was a tell-all, and Jared was already previewing to me that it was slow or inconsequential, I was like, okay, well, then I'm going to Christmas decorate during this. So I did. Okay. And I do have to say that, like, if I were to sit down and just dedicate my time fully to this episode, would have been like, oh, no. But it was nice to have in the background as, like, a podcast.

That's what it was to me, a podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up.

Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not?

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But like every show goes through this where there's just episodes where it's like, why am I watching this for an hour and a half? Why am I watching this? But this is exactly why. Well, hold on, but this is exactly why I'm not a TV guy because there's so many times with multitude of television shows where there be, I don't know, Breaking Bad or whatever you're, you're watching. No, no, not Breaking Bad.

Every episode is consequential. Ozarks. I thought that was too slow to continue. Is it Ozark or Ozarks? Ozark. Ozark. Anyway, Ozark. Widesly considered one of the greatest shows, but like so many times there's episodes.

I hear from people like, oh, you got to get through four episodes. And then it gets really going. It's like, so you're telling me I got to dedicate almost five hours of my life. They'll tell me that what's the show that with Catherine O'Hara? Oh, Agatha. It was like, Jared. Oh, no. Oh, Schitt's Creek.

Yeah, Schitt's Creek. People tell me that I have to watch the whole first season of Schitt's Creek to start to like it at the beginning of season two. What are we doing with our lives? You know, and I get that people do that and it's a thing and I respect it because I wish I could do it. With some shows and some shows you don't. And my retaliation point is that we love TV because we get so close to the characters. We feel like we really know them so much more than a movie. In an episode like this, or Men Tell All, Super Sweet, No Drama, Filler episode. we just want to see them.

We just want to see more of their personality. And that's all. That's fair. You don't like, you don't like, you don't need the, yeah, there's something. I don't need excess personality. I love character development. Give me all of it. I love character development.

But no, there's also a subtlety to character development that I really appreciate. Like in movies, you know, there's so much to be said in silent moments. Like one of the, this I always use this thing example. I'm sorry I'm going off. track right now but I not really if you get me on this podcast I'm sorry this is what we're going to talk about but there's a scene in the parted where I can talk about this there's a scene between Leonardo DiCaprio and Matt Damon and um forget Martin Sheen's character dies he's like the captain decaprio has his phone or like he's got the rat's phone or something like that and

Matt Damon calls the phone yeah and Leo knows it's the rat but doesn't know who it is and he picks up the phone no no and it's just dead silent yeah yeah and it just puts back and forth between both guys just hearing each other breathe on the phone. And in that moment, there is more character development in that 20 seconds of silence than in most movies. You know what I mean? It's just like, it's a chef's kiss. It is great.

I see it play in my head right now. Like just everything in that moment, the tension, just, oh, God, it's so good. Anyway. Okay. During the strip date, Jonathan says that he's never stripped before. It didn't, we didn't believe. leave him. And then they re-asked the question here. Except professionally.

He has never done a profession. Very funny. That was very funny. We also find out that Jonathan has a girlfriend, which means that Jonathan is off of the Golden Bachelor list, which is disappointing to me, as it seems as if Mark might also have a girlfriend. So two, my two lead picks both have girlfriends. is there going to be a golden bachelor and they were casting for it in the commercials oh then yes oh okay um do you think that they should pick someone from jones season or do they do you think that they should pick uh celebrity stunt casting yeah like an old celebrity like i mean because listen obviously i love the format of the show i think it needs a little pick me up i think it needs a little

pick me up i think this might be a little pick me we might need it so who do you haven't done a celebrity stuntcasting in forever. Jesse was the celebrity stunt casting. So was Baldwin. Wasn't Baldwin one of the Baldwin brothers, right? I have no idea. I thought he was. I was very young when his season came out. And then there was the prince that was kind of stinty. But Jesse was the celebrity stunt cast. Yeah. I bet that there's an older celebrity who would be willing to do it. Who would definitely be down to do it. Yeah. They plug Charles as possibly the next bachelor a golden bachelor as they they call him out in the middle of the crowd they have some you know staged moment where a fan says charles for golden bachelor if not then my mom i know it's so sweet

do you do you do not think that charles couldn't carry the show do you do you okay let me tell you at first i thought this is wacky this is the sweetest man and then but i was like put He can't carry the show. No, he can't carry the show. And then I thought, who of this group do I actually want to watch more of? It's Charles. It is Charles. And he is the most endearing person I've really ever come across.

So endearing. Like the most. So can you imagine 25 older women? I guess when you, yeah. If you want a Golden Bachelor that is just like you cannot stop watching it because he's just too cute. Then that's the guy. I would agree with that. Like, I don't know what kind of grand romance might come out of this. I don't even know if the, he talks about how he's already move on. Is this evil of me to say? No, it's idealist. Okay. That's what it is. It's me just

being like too romantic, right? Buddy, your soulmate. Not evil, too romantic. Exactly. All right. Well, it's just because he's just, the way that he talks about his wife, you know? I mean, same with Mark. And Mark actually, there was nothing, there was no huge Mark moment to me in this episode, except for. When about the Post-it note? Precisely. Oh. The Post-it note that he said, that he gave to Jonathan saying that like, you know, if I'm not around tomorrow, which he meant like, if I don't get a rose.

Not obviously dying, yes. just know that you're like a great man and he like had listed like all these attributes that he admired from him yeah it's really sweet would you do that if you were in the house with these Ben I'm trying to think of who I would do

I feel like Ben would do it to you he would do it for me I don't know Ben relax I'm not that great very sweet but no I'm not deserving of this you can write like you're okay you're doing a good job and then I'd be like all right thanks I appreciate that

um yeah uh like do you see yourself in 30 years softer in that way yeah it's interesting because i think there's areas in my life where i've become hardened yeah and then there are areas in my life where i've become softer um you know i was actually thinking yesterday when i was feeding hayden um introspectively about you know like what how Hayden's going to view me as a dad, you know? It's a weird thought. What type of man are you going to think I am?

You know, I hope he thinks I'm a good man. You think you're wonderful. I don't know. Whizzer, that's not wonderful. Lots of things. Except for like the work, well, you know, can't say that working too much is a negative thing. No, but obviously, like,

you'll have our fault to eye as well. But anyway, but that's an area where I think it's become softer in terms of thinking, you know, grandiose. With kids because it just puts, you know, you start thinking about your place in life, not so much about your own being, but in terms of, okay, well, I'm here in this world and my most important thing is not just like living, but just being there for Dawson and Hayden. Like I want to live as long as possible because I want to be there as long as possible for them. Yeah.

And that has obviously, that mindset has been different the past three years since having kids. than it was prior. Yeah. It's like, well, I want to live as long as possible because I want to do things and breathe. And I appreciate life and I'm grateful for life, which all those things are true still. But now it's also shifted to be like, well, now I want to be here as long as possible because, you know, I don't want, you know, Dawson to be 15 and something happened. And then he, you know, kind of grows out without a dad. Like, I want to be there for him.

Yeah, exactly. Like, I think we've talked about this before. But I never really thought of, like, my own death as, like, an emotional thing. I never thought of, like, me getting in the car and, like, something bad happening or, you know, on a plane or whatnot. Yeah, you think about your parent. Yeah, you're always thinking about,

like, you're worried about their flight, not your own flight. And then being a parent, you think about your own flight, and then you think about your, you know, flying is the safest boat of transportation, but you know what we all think of it. Yeah, yeah, but it's like, oh, my God, if something happened to me,

not just about me, it's not just about me. I start, like, well up now, thinking about how their life would be, yeah. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot.

He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. It's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them.

I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, sis, what if I could promise you you never had to listen to a condescending finance bro, tell you how to manage your money again. Welcome to Brown Ambition. This is the hard part when you pay down those credit cards. If you haven't gotten to the bottom of why you were racking up credit or turning to credit cards, you may just recreate the same problem a year from now. When you do feel like

you are bleeding from these high interest rates, I would start shopping for a debt consolidation loan, starting with your local credit union, shopping around online, looking for some online lenders because they tend to have fewer fees and be more affordable. Listen, I am not here to judge. It is so expensive in these streets. I 100% can see how in just a few months you can have this much credit card debt and it weighs on you. It's really easy to just like stick your head in the sand.

It's nice and dark in the sand. Even if it's scary, it's not going to go away just because you're avoiding it. And in fact, it may get even worse. For more judgment-free money advice, listen to Brown Ambition on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. A foot washed up a shoe with some bones in it.

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and only guy was down to sing it with him. And in order to bring him more pride, they have the L.A.'s gay man chorus come out and sing this song in its glory. And it's great. Yeah, great song.

You didn't see it, but I just wanted to say, great song. He may have fallen asleep for this part. That's not true. My eye was half open. And then finally, we get to the end where we see the scenes from the next episode, the finale. The finale.

Jared was awake for this. And I feel like the biggest takeaway is that Joan doesn't seem that smiley. She's definitely not smiley. But her reaction, her facial expression, looks a lot like what Jen's did at her mental. whenever they would like preview Jen's reaction for like the next week. Oh, yeah. What is the name of the guy she picked?

Devin. Devin. Yes. But look at that. That shows you just how fleeting the Bachelor audience memory is. Yeah, well, there's just so many names. I remember his face.

Well, yeah. I remember that face. Jones definitely not smiley. Yeah. It's hard to tell if. She's trying to hold back to be an actress? Exactly. Or what's real?

You know, if she's trying to play a boy. I don't think she's very good actress. I mean, I guess we'll find out if she's super happy. I don't know. See, this is just my feeling the entire time is that, like, her guy wasn't really there. I think that, um, that chalk is the closest that she's going to get there. So you think that she's going to break up with chalk? No, no, no, no, no.

I think that she's going to be with Chuck. And then I think she's going to get in real life and realize, like. So they broke up after the show? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, how many breakups after the show can we take? I definitely think that she ends up with him. I just don't know what the status of their relationship is now. If they end up together and then break up before after the kind of rose, it's like, oh, my goodness, gracious, great balls.

But do you know what's worse? Just stay together. Married after four months and meeting each other. That's bad. Don't get married. And then divorced. Don't get married. But I don't know. I hope not.

I mean, how long ago did they film? Like three months ago? Four months ago? I think it started in June. So like they probably ended in August. So you're talking about September, October. It's been two months. I mean, this is all, you know, this is all assumptions here.

We're just speaking out of our butts. Look at us, babe. We're the opposite. Oh, God. We're the opposite. You didn't like me on the show. and then you love me in real life. Look at that.

And then, so that can just those flips, those flip flips can switch. Yeah, of course. Switches can flip. Switches do flip. That is correct. Switches flip. But, yeah, I mean, listen, I hope she's with chalk. I mean, I can't even, I don't know what type of drama this final episode is going to bring because it's like, is she even going to, like, does anybody think she's going to end up with guy?

I know they saw that show that preview of guy who was saying that I'm in love with you or all. No, yeah, yeah, yeah. He said I'm ready to get engaged, like, I would propose to you. Yeah, and that's, like, the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard in my entire life. I've never seen two people so neutral about each other. Yeah, so, again, I hope that, what I hope is that guy, with all due respect, good looking, seems very nice. He sang, he sung the song, but eliminate guy. He did sing the song, and that was one of his glory moments.

I hope that the tension in the episode is not between who she picks, but rather, if she ends up picking chalk, because of the guilt that she feels. totally from um you know her obviously past relationship yes yes so that would be far more interesting to me if there is this sense of guilt that she feels i mean i hope she doesn't feel this way obviously i want joan to be happy i don't i don't think that she's doing anything wrong i don't think she's doing anything wrong at all like she should move on i'm sure a lot of people close in her in her circle want her to move on and be able to you know be happy again but i'm sure just from a human being standpoint when she feels low guilty. And plus, from a TV aspect, like, that is compelling stuff if the reason that she feels

like she might not pick chalk is just because she has this overwhelming sense of guilt, which they showed in the episode a little bit of, you know, is this the right thing to do? Which I get. I mean, how can you not think that? Yeah. It would be very, it would make a lot of sense for this part of the franchise. Yeah. If I was in that predicament, I would think the exact.

same thing. And I'm sure my friends would tell me exactly what I would tell Joan, which is you're not doing anything wrong. But it's hard to think that you're not doing anything wrong. And my ghost would say, you're doing something wrong. I'm kidding. I would not. Ashley haunted me on our feet, haunt me in the afterlife. Only for a few years I'd haunt you like that. Only for a few years. Okay. Well, hopefully I don't. I mean, I hope I die before you. Well, statistically speaking, I'll die before you. I guess so. Isn't that so weird you think I'll die before you? You'll see me die?

Jared, that's the worst thing I've ever heard. Could you not see it? That's so sad. Hopefully many, many, many years from now. And on that note, I'm going to go cry. No, don't cry. I will see you guys next time. And Jared probably won't.

But until then. But you'll see Ben and Ben's better. So let's just all be honest, which I'm totally fine with. I'm fine being if Ben's in A minus, I'm fine being a B minus C plus. why where'd you skip B plus because I'm not going to give myself that type of credit no Ben's 6-4 he's got four inches on me I always used to say that

why are you comparing your looks right now I didn't think we were talking about that I was talking about quality quality quality respectable lovable kind-hearted men Ben's a very respectable man but I would always say like because you know I feel like Ben and I are similar in certain ways

and when we were on the show together I remember just thinking, like, I got no shot being this guy. Like, I'm trying to be as good as him. And so, but he's got four inches on me. Like, over. Why would she ever pick me over him? It's just not happening. The thing is, with Ben on that season, people are so tired of me here.

You can say this, but like, when he did that sex talk with the kids, I was like, no one can beat this man. Trust me, I was like, this effing guy. You didn't see it. You already even there. You saw it back on TV. you're talking about you weren't on that date i was on that date you were on that date yes i was on that date and the sex talk with the kids i don't remember them showing you talk to the kids at all i my big date was the week before the boxing day so you barely got you barely got any air i got that no they

showed me and i had my black eye and um it was a fun date um i'm sure you probably totally excelled in that too oh i did well you already imagine like you would be so good at that but the fact that like they showed Ben, like, he was, like, walking down the aisle. He started walking down the aisle. I'm like, why did I not do this? And they had me go before Ben. So I'm like, damn it, can I do mine again, please? Do you think that they saved Ben for last?

Of course. Knowing that he was just going to kill it. He was like a youth minister. And they probably were like, Ben, you know, if you feel like you want to, like, walk up to each desk, feel free to, buddy. And they were like, Jared, stay up front, don't move. Oh, good times. Now we're actually signing up.

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