The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Reality Stars in Sororities with Janet Caperna from The Valley

Episode Date: February 28, 2026

Before she made her way to The Valley, Janet was social chair of Chi Omega. After being put on social probation, she set up a guy for a date party and you won’t believe where they ended up. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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February 24th on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcast. Welcome to Dirty Rush, the truth about sorority life with your host, me, Gia Judice, Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Fessler. Hi guys, welcome back to another episode of Dirty Rush. Today I have on a special guest who was very much involved in sorority life. at a school in the Midwest. She's a good friend of mine. And also in a new season of the Valley, Janet Coperna, welcome to Dirty Rush.

Hi, my friend, you guys. So Janet and I met, it was the BMAs, right? I think it was the IHeard Awards. Oh, it was. Oh, it was. Yeah. Excuse me. Yes, it was.

We sat next to each other, right? Yes, and had the best time. And we had the best time. I was like, who is this lovely, lovely woman? And we had a couple of the other cast members from the valley next to us as well, Right. That was a fun night. Yeah, I was Brittany's date for that. So always a fun night to get to be Britney's date. Yeah. Yeah. So, all right. So I want to talk a little Valley, but first, since this is Dirty Rush, tell me where you went to school or tell us. Where'd you go to school? What sorority were you in? All of that.

Yeah. Okay. So I went to Ohio University. Not to be mistaken with the Ohio State University, which is like the Buckeyes. Ohio University is like an hour and a half southeast, a smaller school. And I was an English major there. And I was a Chi Omega there. So it's a Tau Alpha chapter of Chi Omega there. I was an English major too. I don't know that I ever used that degree for anything. Maybe you know, no, no.

It did not really serve me. I just like to read. Yeah, that was me too. I was like it was nice actually the balance between also being a sorority girl and kind of having that social aspect of something. And then getting to go like be with all my like nerd English majors. Yes. Read and write. It was like such a balance. Yep. Yep. So okay. First of all, well, let me just go back just for a minute. Where did you grow up? I grew up in Dublin, Ohio. So just outside of Columbus where the Ohio State University is.

So I never wanted to like go to Ohio State because it was too close to home. It was like 15 minutes for my mom's house. So Ohio University was like an hour and a half. drive. I was like, if I'm that far away, my mom won't be able to, like, pop in every day if she wants. Yeah. Yeah. I have to plan a trip down to visit me. So higher university was like known as being a party school. And at the time in high school, I was like, that sounded really nice. Yeah. I hear you. Well, did you have friends from your high school that went with you? Yeah. It wasn't as a lot of my high school went to Ohio State. But I would say there was probably like 15 or so kids from my high school that went to oh you. But not a lot of them ended up in Greek life. So that was kind of like my separate thing

that I could do that just kind of separated me to from like having a break from like my high school friends. Yeah. What what made you want to rush? Honestly, I just thought it was interesting. It felt very college like. And I was excited for college. I wanted like to be able just to start over. High school was fine and like, you know, fun for me. But I really liked the idea of like having a fresh start and like being able to kind of, I don't know, carve my own path, have like, yeah, I don't know, a new chapter in life. Yeah. Every time I felt like I saw, you know, a lot of stuff about sorority, fraternity, Greek

life in movies. And so I was like, okay, you know, like L Woods and legally blocked. Of course, of course. The movie of my generation. Yeah. So I felt like I was like, this is just what you do in college. You like find your sorority house and it just felt very, very college to me. You know, it's so funny that you say that because I,

I started out at Boston University and I transferred from Texas. I transferred back to University of Texas. And I think a lot of that was about that I just didn't feel like I was having that kind of college experience. Yeah. That whole the fun of Greek life and big campus, although BU is big, but it's a whole different scene. It's a city school, right? Yeah. And sports and football and all of that.

And I think that was, you know, a lot of why I transferred from. be you. I wanted all of that traditional stuff, right? Yeah. Yeah. I wanted typical college life, which honestly, like, I know I've listened to a couple episodes of this podcast, and I feel like there's two kind of routes that people have with their opinions of Greek life. And I feel like the bigger schools, and especially the more southern schools where Greek life is like 70% of campus is in a fraternity or sorority. Right. That helps to be, I feel like the more negative experience and like the high pressure circumstances, then like my school was a smaller school. I mean, we had like 16,000 students, I think, when I was there. And I think like 10 or 15% were in Greek life. So it wasn't like

the big thing on campus. Yeah. And it wasn't like everyone did it. It was sort of a little like niche group. It was sort of like, all right, if you're not doing a sport, if you're not in a club, like Greek life would be kind of a thing you could do. But it wasn't like a mandatory thing. And there wasn't a lot of pressure to do it. So I had a really good experience. with it and like I back on my sorority days fondly, but I know a lot of people don't. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, I was talking about this with another guest, but the pressure of it. We were actually talking a lot about she was saying that she felt a little bit less than she didn't have a lot of the girls. And she was also into a southern school, but they had the money to get decked

and the outfits were over the top. And I felt that way as well. Physically, I just didn't feel like I measured up. I don't know how you felt going through it. I mean, you're a beautiful, you know, woman. And I'm sure you were just as beautiful then. But like in terms of like outfits that you wore or just the physical piece of, how did you feel about all that? It was not the high pressure thing.

We were not getting glam for this. Like he was getting professional makeup done. I mean, we cared about like, you know, what dresses and stuff we were wearing. We wanted to look cute for everything. Right. Right. This was like we were going to Forever 21 and getting like. whatever color. I feel like each of our days, because I, like, Gia talked about her experience. I feel like mine was very similar. And then it took like three weekends where you were spending

your Saturday and Sunday rushing. And there were different nights. And we had like different colored outfits. So like one of the nights they wanted us to wear a black dress. One of them, they wanted a red dress. But it was really low stakes in that we weren't buying like designer stuff by any means. We weren't spending any more time getting ready for this than we would any other, you know, day going out in college. Yeah, I love that. Really low stakes to me. It felt, it felt fun.

And there were definitely, like, you know, reputations for each sorority house. Right. The one I ended up joining was, like, more like the blonde sorority house with like mid the best grades, which honestly now I credit to like graduating on time and having good grades in college because I wasn't the greatest student in high school. But in the sorority, if you, if your GPA dropped below a certain point, you couldn't. go to any of the probation. Right, right. And then, or you would get kicked out if you were, you know, had multiple semesters in a row where you weren't making grades. So it really like, that motivated me. I was like, I want to go to all the parties. I don't want to be put on social probation. So my school is always number one in grades. And I really like, I think that had a bit of

big effect on me. Oh my God. I have to say, at least not, I don't remember time talking with one of my guests, them saying that being a sorority helped so much with their. grades. I think that is really interesting. And to a lot of our listeners who are considering rushing or already, like, that is, that's a fabulous, you know, advantage. I don't know that a lot of people would, would credit their sorority with good grades. But I guess that's, you know, it happens. I don't, yeah. We also went, we had a computer lab, which now looking back is like so outdated with like actual desktop computers. And we had a filing cabinet that had all of the former girls' notes from classes. So like if you were taking Econ 101, you could go to the filing

cabinet, pull up all of the Econ professors' names, and then you could pull all the notes that the girls took previously in that class. And cheat your ass off. And it wasn't cheating. It was more like study guides. Or like, if you missed a day of class, it was like, all right, well, I can just go and get somebody else's notes. I don't have to like be worried about taking the best notes the entire time. And then if you did take like really good notes on a class, you would drop them in the filing cabinet and be like, all right, the girls after me, you're going to love those. Wow. That also was like a big help, like being like, okay, I can at least like go look at somebody else's notes if I'm like not doing well in the class. Yeah, that's so, because I don't remember my daughter,

really even talking about not being able to go to parties if her grades were. I know my son talked about that and I want to say there was one semester where he was close to getting put on probation and it definitely kicked his ass because we don't talk about that a lot on on the pod about how can actually give you that you know motivate you a little bit in terms of your grades I got put on social probation once I think freshman or sophomore what did you do okay not for grades this was so bad looking back our sorority house actually we did not bring guys back to the house you could have guys in the main areas like in the living rooms like until I don't know 9 p.m. or something and like till maybe 11 or something on the weekends.

But other than that, like guys were never upstairs in the hallways or in people's bedrooms, ever. And I was like, I always liked that. Like when I lived in the house, it felt safe you could walk around in a towel or bathrobe and you weren't worried about like bumping into someone's boyfriend or hookup. Right. But before I lived in the house, I didn't, I was like, oh, that can't be like a real rule. And we had a rooftop deck that like we would like lay out.

and like sun tan on. And one of the fraternity guys that I met freshman year was like, let's go smoke pot on the Cio deck. And I was like, yeah, sure. I'm sure. Like, that's probably what they do every weekend. I bet people, they're like drinking and smoking all the time. And so me, not even living in the house, snuck a guy in the house up to the rooftop.

And we were like smoking a joint up there. You and I would have been best friends in college. I was a hundred percent in college. Yeah. I was a big, big stoner. And so the older girls were like, like, what are you, what do you think you're doing? Like, this was so ballsy. How dare you? Truly. They were like, we don't even bring our boyfriends here and you're going to bring some

random frat guy freshman over to smoke pot. Like, good for you. And so I got put on social probation, which now to this day, I credit a marriage and three kids to because we were, I missed our like yearly date party, which was Uncle Bucks, which was like a, like you dressed up in cowboy themed stuff. and it was like in a barn in the middle of nowhere with a DJ. And we would just like dance and everybody brought a date. And I was supposed to bring one of my guy friends who was in the same fraternity as the boy I snuck in to smoke weed. Yeah. I was like, Jimmy, I can't bring you to the date party.

I'm on social probation. He was like, man, I really wanted to go. Like that's, it was like one of the hot date parties of the year. Everybody wanted to do. I was like, my friend Jess just got dumped. Why don't I see if she can bring you? And you guys, you know, you might actually like her. And that they started dating after that,

I ended up getting married and now they have three kids together. So I'm like, thank God that I ended up being put on social probation because I like set up this couple that's like now been together for like 15 years. Look at you go. I love that. I thought you were going to say that it was the reason that you got married and had three kids. And I'm like trying to,

I was like, wait a second. I have to reconfigure everything for a set. Right. Okay. No, because I was in trouble and I couldn't bring him as my date. I set him up with my friend and they're still together till this day. Just doing good. Doing God's work, baby. Yes, absolutely. What do you do in the headlines don't explain what's happening inside of you?

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Was everyone getting wasted? Because now there's so many rules around them, right? So was it, did you have any experiences that you want to share? You were white. You said you're a party girl a little bit. Yeah, I was social chair. I want to say junior year. And that, the whole thing about social chair was like, we weren't allowed to use the social budget on alcohol. So we had to like find, they would give us a check or like cash that we could take out. But we had to like account for what we were using it for. So really the job of social chair was like, I don't know exactly what laundering money is, but I feel like that's what I was doing.

Like being like, oh, we're like using, this is like cups and decorations and food and this, and you would just like make a lot. list and like write out the accounting for what we were using the money for. Right. And it was like $200 a party, which now looking back and like, wow. Right. I could throw a party for like, I mean, this was like almost 100 girls in my sorority, 100 fraternity guys. So like under 500 bucks between the two, you know, sorority fraternity, like to throw a,

like a party for that many people and cover the booze for that many people is kind of insane. But yeah, we would throw it, it would all, all the money would end up going to like natty light. It was like the gross beer that we would get. Oh, right. Natty, right. That's who said, I just learned what that was. There's a Morgan Wallen song. Oh, it's about Natty.

Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so it all ended up. I think you could get a 30 pack of Natty Light back in my college days for 1199. Oh, my God. We would get like a couple hundred dollars worth of Natty Light. And all the parties, we would do themes. So we would do like sports themes where everybody's in jerseys one night.

We would do like, trying to think of some of the other good ones we did. But we all, we do like the, um, like boat hose and something like golf pros and boat hose would be like one of them where like all the guys would dress up in like polos and golf stuff and we would be in like basically bikinis. Right. We would all do like theme parties. It would almost always be in a gross frat house basement and we would just be hug in Natty lights the whole time. That is hilarious. It's like my mom was ended up paying for my beer budget because, you know, she made the sorority. dues that then ended up going to the social fund that I was then, you know, like sneaking ways to find

to buy Natty Light with. Anything like about just being the social chair that our listeners may be interested in or would you do it again? Would you want to be social chair again? I mean, it's still a lot of work. I thought it was the most fun of the jobs. Like you didn't be president or vice president because you had to like get people in trouble and be in people's like probation meeting. Social chair, everybody loved. Like there wouldn't be. Right. Your party girl. Yeah. It would be. Yeah, I would be like, oh, thanks. Like, you managed to get the beer covered. So it would be a really fun job.

And I would say, like, if you don't take things too seriously, that's, like, the position for you. Yeah. Yeah. It didn't feel like, it didn't feel like work as much for you. Oh, I don't think there was. I mean, I had to go to like the executive board chapter meetings with like the president, vice president, you know, accounting chair.

I'm trying to think of some of the other positions we had. Yeah. But, like, you know, mine was just like, everybody knew that like, my main job was like making sure that our advisors didn't find out we were spending the money on beer. Yeah. Yeah. That's definitely what I would want. That would be the role that I would be interested in. Absolutely. How did you get it? How did you become social chair? I think we voted for people. And you know, I think I got it. This is, like I said, I was like a stoner in college. That was like, like, like, like my thing. And my sorority was like, you know, we were the good grades. Like I was like kind of like the odd man out in that sense.

Like not a lot of my other sorority girls were like smoking weed with me. I would like go, I was like friends with a lot of the frat guys. And we would like, I would like be like their bro and like smoke points with them. But there was one, what was it, a really important ceremony that we were doing. I think it was, oh, it was our initiation when we were bringing in new members. And this was like a really serious ceremony where we were all in the basement. We were all wearing like white robes. And we would read from like the scripture of the.

sorority. So it was like, it was like a church service. And the initiation ceremony happened to fall on 421 year, which is like, you know, the stoner holiday. Right, right. And I was like, oh, man, like I remember like begging. My friend was what is. I'm sorry. I don't mean to interrupt, but because I know I only learned about it through my kids. It's like the pot. It's like National Pot Day or something. Yeah, I think it's like Bob Marley's birthday is maybe the room or something like that. But like 420 is like always been like the weed pot holiday. Right. And so I was like, I was like begging the president. I'm like you have to move it from 420. Like we're not going to do this. And instead they wouldn't move it. I was like I got really into baking in college with weed.

So I would like make weed butter and like all this stuff. And on so like the day before 420, I made a hundred weed funfetti cupcakes. Oh, you would have been my. best friend. I would have been, I would have, I mean, still, I feel like you and I just just definitely clicked, but oh my God, you and I would have been like this. Right, right. So I was like, I may have these little green, fun, fetea cupcakes. And the main thing was like I was going to, like the frat guys had given me a bunch of pot and they're like, and then sell them for like five bucks a pop. Okay. If the sorority girls who want them for initiation, every single girl was like, I want one. I kind of want to try it. Like if I'm going to be stuck at home on four,

in this initiation ceremony. And half of these girls had never smoked in their life. So they were like, all right, here's five bucks. I'm going to try pot for the first time. Like, whatever. So every, like, I think almost everybody in the sorority bought a pot cupcake off of me. And we all ate them right before the ceremony that, again, it's like church. Like, we're in like white robes.

It's like kind of like looking back, like not the place you want to be stoned for. And so everybody's like eating them. We're all like, they're all like, what? what's going to happen. I'm like, you know, give it like 30, 45 minutes. You're going to feel great and giggly. Halfway through this ceremony, everybody loses their mind. Everybody is cracking up. All of the girls who are like having to read from like the scripture are like getting like through like a half a sentence and like unable to like control themselves like just. And once one person cracked and like sort of the whole room would start laughing. We like barely got through it. I don't think any of the new

girls who were like going through the initiation knew what was going on. They were like, why are they all right? Right. Right. Everybody just ended up getting so stoned in the middle of this ceremony. So I think that that after that I got elected. Yeah. I think that that makes absolute sense. If I was there, I would have thought Janet for social chair. I would have 100% campaign for you. It was a natural fit, right? Yeah. It felt like a natural fit. It was just this like funny thing. And I still get texts from friends now who are like, oh my kids are in bed it's 420 my husband and I like got edibles we're gonna whatever do you remember the time that we all took those weed cupcakes I'm like I'll never forget that so you're so good friends with a lot of the girls

I have a couple so I probably have 10 girlfriends from my sorority that I stay in touch with and four that I like we do like a yearly trip together every yeah yeah yeah I love that we're all in different parts of the country but we make a point we have a group chat and then we try like once a year to do like a vacation together somewhere that's fun I love that. What do you do in the headlines don't explain what's happening inside of you? I'm Ben Higgins. And if you can hear me, is where culture meets the soul, a place for real conversation. Each episode, I sit down with people from all walks of life, celebrities, thinkers, and everyday folks. And we go deeper than the polished story. We talk about what drives us, what shapes us, and what gives us hope. We get honest about the big stuff, identity, when you. don't recognize yourself anymore.

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podcast, doubt the case of Lucy Lettby, we follow the evidence and hear from the people that lived it, to ask what really happened when the world decided who Lucy Lettby was. No voicing of any skepticism or doubt. It'll cause so much harm at every single level of the British establishment of this is wrong. Listen to Doubt, the case of Lucy Letby on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, this is Joe Winterstein, host of the Spirit Daughter podcast, where we talk about astrology, natal charts and how to step into your most vibrant life. And I just sat down with a mini driver.

The Irish traveler said when I was 16, you're going to have a terrible time with men. Actor, storyteller, and unapologetic, Aquarian visionary. Aquarius is all about freedom-loving and different perspectives. And I find a lot of people with strong placements in Aquarius are misunderstood. A son and Venus in Aquarius in her seventh house Spark her unconventional approach to partnership. He really has taught me to embrace people sleeping in different rooms, on different houses and different places,

but just an embracing of the isness of it all. If you're navigating your own transformation or just want to chartside view into how a leading artist integrates astrology, creativity, and real life, this episode is a must listen. Listen to the Spirit Daughter podcast, starting on February 24th on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcast. Okay, so this is a little cornbally question, whatever, but I have to ask. Do you feel like being social chair prepared you for, I don't, did it prepare you for anything? Did you take it with you, you know, into your actual life?

Do you feel like it's a role that translates into anything you're doing now? I mean, obviously, we'll talk a little bit about the Valley, but, right, do you see any similarities? It made me want to be a host. Like I liked the idea of like hosting the parties, sending out the invitations, picking a theme, like, you know, just having it be like my party. Like I like like that aspect. And I now like my favorite thing is to like throw a dinner party. I feel like we get stuck having to do a lot of the theme parties like on Bravo shows.

Yeah. So some of those I'm like, man, I like got that out of my system in college. There's times where I'm like, Brittany, if you pick a theme for this party, I can't we just like, have a normal night. But I will say, like, I think it may be, like, jump started the host in me and, like, enjoying, like, planning and setting up a party. And then, like, you know, the praise of, like,

everybody having a good time. Wow. Yeah, that's, I could see how that would translate. I mean, the last thing I ever want to do is throw a party. Really? Dinner. Oh, my God. I like to go to a party. Specifically, I'd like to go to one of your parties.

But no, like, figuring out a menu, that would not be for me. Love that. That's my favorite thing, is having everybody over cooking a big dinner. Like having a 12-person dinner party is my favorite thing on earth. Oh, my God. Ugh. Yuck. Okay.

So got to talk a little bit about season three of the Valley, which is premiering April. April 1st. April 1st. Okay. So very, very exciting. Tell me a little bit about how filming this season was compared to last season. Honestly, last season was so dark because we were all kind of right in the center of Jackson and Brittany's separation.

Yeah. Looming divorce. And I feel like Jacks kind of sucked the air out of the room a lot. It was like just very heavy. A lot of the topics that we were having to deal with because of Jacks were just really dark. And it just felt like anytime we were having fun, it would be like, Britney would be like, guess what he just did or guess what he just texted me. Right.

And that kind of was like this dark cloud. Those kill. Yeah. Around last season. And I feel like this season was, it's the most I've ever. laughed, like while... Really? Yeah, it's had the most, most fun, I feel like, and it just felt a lot lighter and more fun. Granted, there's still drama. Like, there's a bunch of us, like, you know, don't like each other or don't get along over certain things. So there's still all of that,

but it just felt normal, like bullshit that happens in life, not like really dark, heavy topics all the time. It's so interesting because, um, in terms of like the two seasons I did on Housewives of New Jersey, the first season 13 was so much fun. And we had so, I mean, it was, again, there was drama, but it was like, we still, we had so many laughs. The cast trip was like amazing. And then season 14, it turned into a lot of just heaviness and darkness. And now we've been on pause for a couple years. So I, if I'm picking, I would definitely prefer then season three to season two of the Valley. I'm so excited to watch it. Yeah. And you're also going to see Lala and Schwartz join, which I'm so happy about. Like, Lala's been one of my best friends for years now. And so it feels

right. I feel like one of the things that like the Valley really like nailed in like, in picking all of us is like all of us are real friends in real life. Right. You know, Lala popped in. She was like at my birthday season one and she filmed a little bit season two when she was pregnant. And so you saw little bits and pieces of her because it would have been strange for her not to be a part of it. otherwise. She and Schwartz are full time with us, which it just feels like right. I'm like, you know, all this stuff. Anytime she wasn't at like a party or an event, I'm like, this wouldn't be how it is like if we didn't have cameras up. So it feels like cameras are like now at the things that we would have off camera. Got it. It's all like lining up the way it's supposed to.

And they have a best friend next to you. It definitely changes everything, right? Yeah. And a sober best friend. Like Lala's so. So like days after when all of us are like lit and having the time of our lives on camera and people are like, well, this person said this and then this happened. Lala's like, uh-uh. That's not how she said this. Then she said this. Then this happened. And I'm like, thank God. I'm like, thank you. We have somebody sober in the group who can like fully just like recount everything as it happens and tell the truth. It's a Greek chorus. That's awesome. Yeah. I cannot wait to watch. So can you compare. the valley and your experience on it with being in a sorority? Does it feel like all the same? I think you know what's similar? I feel like it's sort of like, yeah, I feel like in, we all have like our individual like groups like, you know, Brittany, Lala, Michelle and I, like we have a group chat.

We talk all the time. So I feel like in the sorority life, like you had your best friends or your roommate. Then you had like the big group that you would see like at all the socials. So that's like, you know, people that are like maybe we're not as close. with, but like, you know, are still in the friend group or you don't like that you have to anyway. Right. And it's almost sort of like the Bravo world too is like other shows are sort of like other

sororities. Like I remember talking to Gina from Orange County and being like, we're basically like, you know, sorority sisters just in different sororities. Yeah. Yeah. So in BravoCon is like, you know, getting to bring all that together, which is so much fun. Right. But it does sort of like mirror that, like that, that sorority group.

Like there's different clubs and different groups. but everybody kind of has the same understanding of like, you know, like you can, you can bitch with another sorority girl who's in a different sorority about like, oh, I have to go to like initiation today. And like they understand like, oh, chapter meetings are like, you know, so annoying on Sundays and having to do it. You have the same understanding for how things work. I have a confessional.

I have a cast trip. Yeah. Yeah. That's interesting because I definitely clicked with people at BravoCon. And I've, unlike a lot of people that go on reality TV, I am a fan. I've been a fan. I've watched every housewife episode ever. So it's a little bit of my first one, especially like I get, I got a little star struck.

Yeah. And but this last year, I was like, it was just so easy to connect with people because there's, there's just a shared experience there. Totally. I think that probably applies right to sororities. in terms of just new your goal, and especially like the sisters that you pledge with.

Yeah. Right. It's just sort of this shared experience, which is really fun and very unique in terms of, I think, friendships, life, you know, long friendships and, you know, to be able to have that, to have that history together.

Totally. It kind of bonds you, right? Totally. Yeah, that shared experience of like, yeah, like sharing your life, like getting love and hate online. Like, you know, it's something all of us, you know, no matter if,

what show you're on or what you're doing. It's like everybody experiences like those highs and lows, you know, like having to be in the glam chair so much. There is a lot of like shared experience. I feel like that all of us have. And yeah, BravoCon,

I have been such a big fan of so many Bravo shows for a long time now. Chris and Dode gave me shit for it on our show and was like, you're a fan. And I'm like, I'm a proud fan. I love. A hundred percent. Like,

I think it's so much fun. And so, yeah, same thing, like getting to meet people from shows that I've watched for years and years and housewives. It was so cool, right? You know, find so iconic you getting to sit next to you.

I heard awards and be like, oh, my God, Jen Fessler's next to me like, oh, my God. I felt the same way. It's just like, yeah, it's in a really exciting fun world. Yeah, I remember this past time, I've met her before, but I was in the bathroom, BravoCon, and Kathy Hilton and Nikki Hilton came out. And Kathy, who has said this to me at other events, and I'm bragging a little bit, but I can't help it. She's like, I love what you are wearing.

Oh, my gosh. She gave, she like, it was, I thought I would die. She's like, you look, you look so chic. She goes, you really don't look like a housewife, which I thought was hilarious. She probably thinks of housewife fashion is like so over the top and like extra. Yeah, I mean, I never really, I'm old. So I've never like, you know, tits out for Harambe. So, but that's the expression, right?

I love it. Yeah. That's it. That's it. Good, good. All right, my friend, I loved having you here. You're a doll. This is so much fun.

It was really fun. It was really fun. You're the best. You're the best. Okay, you guys, April 1st, Janet, I really am. I'm psyched. I love that it's going to be a little more fun, a little less dark. It's going to be good.

I know. Those are always the best seasons. Yes. Thank you so much for having me. Thank you. Bye. Bye. All right, guys.

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