The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Red Carpet Bombshells with Taylor Nolan

Episode Date: December 10, 2019

Taylor Nolan is here with us! Can you believe this is the first time she and Ben have met?? We get her to open up about her engagement to Derek Peth and how that changed her relationships going forward. She helps us break down all the hot topics in Bachelor Nation this week: Chris Soules Demi Hannah B What happened with Kristian and Demi at Jingle Ball??Dean dropped a major bomb about Caelynn on the red carpet.Dr. Jannette joins us to explain about JP (Bachelorette Ashley Hebert's husband) and his potentially life threatening illness Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We sure do. And the person who's our co-host today is something. somebody who I was just felt so familiar and comfortable with that when I ran into her at Jungle Ball, I hugged her, I think. And I was like, so it's like, good to see you. And I realized afterward that I had never met her in person. But that's just how it is with the show. You feel like, you know, someone before you meet them for real. And Ben, you've been judging them for months. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Then you also have never met this co-host. Do you, would you like to? introduce the girl who's sitting next to me. I would. Yeah. So we know her from The Bachelor and Bachelor in Paradise. She's a fan favorite. It has an incredible story to tell with twists and turns just like we all do. Taylor, Nolan, welcome to the Almost Trans Podcast. Yeah. Thank you for happening. I'm excited to be here.

Taylor, for all the listeners out there, you're going to sit around with us all day today, talk hot topics, and there's plenty of them. But let's get started with you. We know you from whose season of the Bachelor. And then what, how would fans know you from your time on Paradise? Yeah. So I was on Nick next season. That was season 21, left on the two on one. It was a bit controversial. With Corinne.

With Corinne. Yes. And then I was on Paradise and was engaged with Derek. Fun stuff. Well, we'll get into that later. Yeah. Because we have a lot of Derek questions to pepper you with. But right now we're going to discuss our stuff.

So look forward to that, Taylor. Right now we're going to talk about our hot topics. Both you and I were at Jingle Ball. Hannah B. was there. We didn't see her. We had a whole Bachelor crew in the forum lounge, and it was you, me, Chris Soles, who made his first appearance since his accident two and a half years ago.

Then it was Jared Dean Kalin, Christian, Haggerty, Demi's ex-fiancee, and who else am I missing? Angela? Catherine. Uh, yeah, Angela, and I think that was... But yeah, but we didn't see Hannah. That's unfortunate. I wish she was there.

Yeah, I saw her at the red carpet. Oh, you did? Yeah, briefly saw her there, but then, yeah, she was nowhere else to be found. Wow. I'm sure she just... What do you think that is? She probably just wanted to get it and get out. I saw her there.

No, she was there all night. Oh, really? Well, half the night. I'm not going out with her backstage a little bit. And I don't say, like, get and get out. I mean, like, that girl is so busy. I feel like she's nonstop at appearances, so... Mm-hmm.

it's a busy world for a what do they call that thing what's the ball that they went on dancing with the stars the disco ball yeah the busy life the mirror ball winner yeah you know i i wonder i can't remember back when but hannah has kind of caught fire here recently i do think it's weird that she didn't see you all though i mean i would have loved to meet some fellow bachelor people well now you're making it like it's like shady but there's no shade to it so but there is shade there is there is a component of shade that we can play here and that is the fact that christian came but demi canceled last minute so is it possible that she was too nervous to be at the same event as christian yeah and i don't mean to be a bleep talker

amy's arrived that cost me 1500 dollars that she canceled at the last second oh wait why what were you going to do and i don't mean to be like that but like i really was not happy about it she canceled like an hour before the limo was already sitting outside her house an hour before is it because you got our driver and stuff you mean why it was so expensive yeah yeah i got her driver and i can't cancel a driver i don't know if people listening like a lot of times when there's celebrity events you send a car and and taylor's probably sitting there going i didn't get a car yeah i'm like we didn't get a car either it's okay relevancy yeah okay i'm just going to tell the story because whatever i don't care like i'm going to get a call from the bachelor people but they already know

I'm super mad. Okay. So originally we invited them when they were together. Yeah. And so then they broke up. So I was asked, are you fine to still have them both? And I said, of course. Like, I would never un-invite someone.

So I said, yeah, and they can both bring a guest. No problem. So then it got a little dicey. Like I started getting emails like, are they going to be sitting near each other? And I don't lie. I was like, look, it's not that big. You know what I mean? Yeah.

There's like some parties where they were going to definitely. be like at the burger stand together so then like two hours before i guess it was two no an hour before because the car was at her house waiting for her they said she wasn't coming and i mean i don't know if you guys know this but like i'm not the calmest person or the sweetest i mean i was so ticked because the seats we gave you guys were good yeah they was completely sold out those tickets are between five hundred seven hundred dollars each so wait did she call you to tell you that she wasn't come in? No, someone else called me to say she wasn't coming. And I'm like, could she just have decided

this two days ago? People were begging for the tickets. Like, do you know Romeo? Romeo? No, Romeo? Yes. And I told that guy, no. I know. So I guess I have a right to be, I don't know, you guys judge, if I have a right to be mad or not. Well, I think last minute cancellations for anything that's business oriented is never, never looks good. I mean, if she didn't want to go. I think you have an issue

that you said no to little Romeo. That guy is awesome. I think she could have canceled on you weeks ahead of time if she didn't want to be at the same event as Christian. She was getting nervous. I totally understand that. Like, I'm sure I have, like, boyfriends where I don't want to be at the same part. You definitely would kind of do this.

But not in a business context. Like, you would never do that in a business context. But you would definitely avoid an ex-boyfriend. Sometimes because I just don't need the diarrhea. Like, it just makes me so nervous. Well, I hung out with Christian. I got to know her a little bit better. and she is kick-ass.

I love her. She's so awesome. She comes across a little bit differently than she does on the show. How did you feel? I didn't watch her on the show, but she was a total badass, and I loved her. I mean, we hung out. I went back to her place afterwards and hung out, and she was absolutely fantastic. Yeah.

Just such good vibes. And Catherine, too, like, fucking loved Catherine. Yeah, she comes off a little bit more mellow on TV, like even keel, but she's like a little bit spicier in her life. And we should also mention that Demi met Christian through Catherine. And you guys may not, may or may not remember her from the first two weeks of Colton season. They've been best friends since like childhood together. And they moved from Florida together to L.A. last year.

And it was Catherine, who was good friends with Demi from the two weeks that she was on Colton season, who introduced her. And Demi. Yes. Christian Demi. Anyway, Ben, are you feeling left out because you were not chingual? No, no, I was just letting you guys do your thing. Do you know what other dirt came from Jingleball? Dean said something on the red carpet.

Surprise, surprise, what did Dean say? He said, I just saw this. He goes, marriage will absolutely not be happening between me and Caleb. Really? Yeah, what do you think about that comment? There had, did he do this because he's Dean and he says stuff? And then he gives his little smirk like, oh, this is. is going to be funny later and then it's not because we're all just like and like Kaelin's

standing there like rolling her eyes because she knows that like Dean's just trying to like get under her skin. Was this where this came from? Probably. That's what I feel is every red carpet. It's so funny when you're sitting next to him and you're like, oh my God, you just did it again. Yeah. And like he knows he does it. Like let's stop. Okay. Dean is charming. Charm is deceitful. So like let's understand who Dean is here. Like he knows what he's doing. doing. He says this and knows that everybody's going to get an uproar about it. It's going to be a headline. Kaelin's going to roll her eyes knowing that he doesn't mean it, that at this point they probably haven't even talked about it. And it's just Dean being Dean, which we should not

always forgive. So I'm not forgiving my friend here. I'm saying, Dean, you're wrong. Stop doing this. The Us Weekly article says this. He says, he says, when asked if a wedding would ever happen between he and Kaelin. He said, that's never going to happen. The alum joked to us weekly. She does joke around about us getting married all the time. And I always say, sorry, not going to happen. I don't know.

I'm super unconventional. And she obviously is a little more conventional. We joke around about it. Just try to keep expectations to a minimum, you know? Like I said on the show, under promise over deliver. Oh, Dean. It just makes me want to pull my hair out sometimes. I just, I cannot imagine dating him.

Could you imagine dating a guy like that, Taylor? I feel like I have in the past and I've regretted it. Was that Derek? No. No, no, no, no, no. There's different levels there, but no. I think Dean, like you said, he's very charming. But I think there's a lot, like, when you peel back the layers and actually get to, like,

his vulnerable side, like, there's a lot there. And he really, really has a great. great guy. Great human. He has so much there. Yes. And he cares about Kaelin a lot. So let's, let's speak for Dean here because he needs it. Is after being around him at Jingle Ball? Is Kaelin and Dean's relationship? Does it feel like it's progressing? How does it feel to you all? Oh, absolutely. Yeah, that was my first time meeting her. And I was asking her a little bit about just like they're traveling, you know? And like, does she feel like she like has to like keep up with him? And she was very much just like, oh, I love it. Like if I'm here in

LA for like more than two days and like where are we going like I want to go somewhere and I'll say okay good then that makes a lot of sense that the two of you would like pair together and enjoy this kind of lifestyle together that's so cute they seemed really really good together I was joking with her too I was like um every time I see you guys on Instagram talking about the last 11 mile hike you went on I'm like wow she really likes him yeah all right let's move on Corinne Olympios your your best friend your bestie BFF from next season is now single. I didn't know that. Yeah.

She's had a boyfriend for, I guess, like about a year. Anything to say? Sorry, it didn't work out. We'll just move on to the next line here. Ben, you want to talk about Peter's press release for the season and how you feel like this one might be a little bit different than normal premiere press releases? Because I found a red flag, not a red flag,

but something that sticks out to me. What sticks out to you, Ash? It says that this episode doesn't end with the rose ceremony and that it goes straight into group dates. Every year they mix it up. I'm trying to figure out how that would work. But it's going to be fun to watch. I mean, I like that they change the format up. It helps me stay more unpredictable.

I think every year we complain about The Bachelor and the Bachelorette premiere because it's so formulaic at this point. point and I feel like they probably have heard that from fans too much to not change it and here we go here's the change so we probably are going to get a bit of a um a shorter version of that night one we may not get to know the the um rejectees at all yeah they'll just be in and out dang yeah that's quick we also in the the season premiere press release get a little bit more detail on Hannah B's role in the season so we do see her step out of the limo and it it does seem like that is what you know she steps out of the limo on night one and then she makes another appearance so she she hosted group day in which the women will be revealing their most memorable sex

stories stories and fantasies in front of a live audience Ben how do you feel about this how many how many years in a row are we going to do sex stories this early on well i mean i think we're seeing it's no longer the story that it was before but i mean in relationships it's part of it and this show is based on relationships so we're going to talk about it forever um i don't love how it becomes like the massive storyline of the season i do think it helps the audience i don't know how i even feel about this but it does help the audience get to know the couple better if we know they've been intimate. Like that gives us some context to where their relationship is at.

Why it is maybe they're so connected and they, you know, understand each other so well. The one thing I don't love is I really don't want to sit and watch an hour worth of TV why people talk about their sex fantasies. Like, this isn't that show to me. Yeah, I don't even know how they can make that clean for like, you know, the 8 o'clock hour on ABC. All right.

We have a couple other hot topics, including more about Hannah Be. be, but first, we have a doctor coming on to talk about J.P. Rosenbaum, Ashley's husband, Bachelorette Ashley's husband, and the disease that he was just diagnosed with this week. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her.

Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him?

Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend, really cheated with his professor or not. To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom.

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Ben. All right. Well, when you've got a doctor hanging on the line about to explain the syndrome that one of your bachelor alums was just diagnosed with, you got to take the call now. You've got to interrupt hot topics. So Dr. Jeanette is on the phone. Hello, Dr. Jeanette. Welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. Thank you for having me. Thank you. So you're a medical news expert, family and emergency medicine doctor. And we have to know, I need you to explain this syndrome. Is it a syndrome that J.P. Rosenbaum has? It's called what? Wait, what? It's called the Julian Bear syndrome. Yes, Gionne Barrette. The L is kind of silent. But yeah, so this is a very rare but potentially life-threatening condition. It only affects about one in 100,000 people. And I've only had a few cases in my lifetime, fortunately.

But what happens is your immune system, it attacks its own healthy cells. It attacks its own nerves, and it causes damage to the nerves, and it affects your motor nerves and your sensory nerves. So you have trouble walking, and you have numbness and tingling and difficulty with sensation. And the danger is that you normally, sometimes you start to have paralysis and weakness beginning in your feet, and it slowly moves up to your legs, to your knees, to your waist. And then the reason why it becomes life-threatening is it can affect your diaphragm. So if your diaphragm becomes paralyzed, you can't breathe. And so I've had patients, you know, that have had to be on ventilators because of this condition,

which usually is triggered or preceded by an infection, like your upper respiratory tract infection or, you know, like a stomach bug where you have some nausea or vomiting or diarrhea. it can be from a virus, it can be triggered by a bacteria. We don't know exactly what, but the key is early diagnosis and, you know, that tends to lead to a better outcome such as in J.P.'s condition, thank goodness he sought treatment early. Otherwise, it could really have affected him. So unlike most neurological diseases, this is actually caught and caught kind of because you have some you catch you know like you said um a stomach bug and then it develops from there right so

sometimes somehow if for example there's a bacteria called campelobacter um this has been found in many people who were diagnosed with a gillian beret um and it in that's a bacteria for example maybe you were under the weather or you ate some bad food that was contaminated or you just had a cold just a simple virus, and that virus went and affected and attacked, it triggered your immune system to attack itself. And so that's how it starts. But we don't know the exact cause. There could also be a genetic predisposition.

The scientists are still, you know, studying and researching this condition. But the key, again, is if you catch it early, you can potentially prevent any serious long-term sequela. You know, we can get you treated with ID medications what we call an immunoglobin, IV immunoglobin, or a plasm exchange, and that can help with the progression of this condition. There's not a cure for it, but, you know, a lot of people can recover over time. It can take weeks to months to recover.

A lot of physical therapy is sometimes needed. Some people don't recover if it's not diagnosed in a timely manner. But the good thing, again, is that it's rare, but I've seen it before, and I was able to fortunately, thank goodness, diagnosed it and find it and catch it early in a young patient that I once had in the ER, and I quickly sent him to the neurologist, and we got him started on medications where we were able to prevent him from having any, you know, serious complications, trouble breathing, and keep him off a ventilator. So, J.P. said that he can't drive his kids to school right now. He can't even to TMI, wipe his own butt. But how fast is the onset of symptoms? So everyone is different. For example, the patient that I had, it was a couple of weeks.

He slowly had just a little bit of numbness and tingling in his legs. And then it was getting worse. He actually went to see another doctor who said, oh, you're just hyperventilating. And then luckily he came back as he was instructed, and we ran some tests. And there's a test called a lumbar puncture, which can tell you if you have a certain amount of type of protein in your body and so everyone is different it can it doesn't usually hit you suddenly it's usually a progressive you know maybe over days or weeks and then it can hit you hard after that if you don't take precaution if you don't get treated

but everyone is different as far as how fast it attacks and how severe your symptoms will be some people they don't have very serious symptoms and they can recover but some it can be, as you see with J.P., hospitalized. He's going to need physical therapy. He probably can't drive because his body is still weak. Then that numbness and tingling and the weakness is because of the damage to the nerves. The body is strong and it attacks itself in an effort to fight off, you know, this infection, this what we call antigen. It recognizes that there's something off in the body and that's why the body turns on itself. But fortunately for him, He's young, healthy overall, and hopefully with time and physical therapy, he will, you know, improve and maybe, maybe even a full recovery.

All right. Well, we hope so. Thank you so much for giving us some more insight on this rare syndrome. Absolutely. I press door out to JP. Hopefully he'll continue to do well, him and his family. Yes. All right.

Thank you, Dr. Jeanette. Talk to you soon. Bye. You're welcome. Have a good one. My boyfriend. professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam.

Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.

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Listen to the Super Secret Bestie Club as a part of the My Cultura podcast network available on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. So I mentioned I wasn't done talking about Hannah B and her role in Peter's season. it says in this press release you guys you have to go read the press release because it's truck full of juicy stuff it says that she comes out of the limo and that she hosts a group date but not only that

it says that after this group date Peter discovers Hannah backstage distraught and what she shares with him is going to leave them both very confused it says and they're both going to possibly question whether they still have feelings for each other

and if it's mutual and if Hannah will continue to date Peter in a bachelor house full of other women. That seems a little unrealistic to me that she would. I know what you meant. It seems a little unrealistic to me that she would stay there to do all of that, right? There's absolutely no chance. She wins the mirror ball trophy and then she's going to go just live in that bunks again. Yeah, absolutely not. The timeline is interesting because it was before.

I know Dancing the Stars are happy Yeah Before. True, yeah. Well, we know she went on to do Dancing with the Stars and had to train

countless hours a day so she obviously did not join his season. I think the big mystery here is what does she tell him? My fear, I mean, like, this is,

I probably being just like played by all the promos but I guess my theory is that she says, hey, like I have other opportunities. I'm going to go pursue them, work on myself. You know,

I think I should be single now. But it feels, for some reason, you keep thinking about me through this process and I keep thinking about you, then, you know, then let me know. Yeah, she could be like, have this experience, but then afterwards, if I'm still on your mind, then maybe we should touch base because you've been on my mind. Yeah. Yeah.

All right. Yeah. I mean, I'll see. We'll have to see. It's less than one month until the premiere of Peter's season. And I do love the tagline of this season, expect turbulence. Isn't that cute? It's a good one.

Some more Bachelor Hot Topics. Caitlin and Jason adopted a new dog, another golden retriever, through bunny babies, which is a really awesome foundation that goes and gets dogs over in Asia that are in shelters. They're really high-kill shelters over there. Or in meat markets, which is even scarier. So it's very nice to see them add their new addition of Pino to their. Very cute baby, Rahman. Very cute.

Dylan and Hannah recently discussed their wedding, and they said that whenever it is, that Hannah B, Demi, Katie, Heather, and Mike Johnson will all be invited. I feel like Dylan is connected with a lot of Bachelor Nation. I don't know who Hannah's like group of friends are, but I always see Dylan with a group of dudes. I'm surprised there's not more names here. Yeah, like there's got me Peter there and Tyler Cameron, right? Yeah. I think their wedding is going to be an incredible event. I have a feeling it's going to happen sooner than we think.

I think it might too. I think it might actually be next summer. Now, do you think that they're the kind of couple that would get married on Bachelor and Paradise? Yes. Really? I mean, I don't know. That's just my judgment.

Honestly, my judgment of myself is that I'm the kind of person that I get married on Bachelor in Paradise. And I didn't want to do it that way. Yeah. So, I mean, I feel like they would. Okay. Bachelor in Paradise alums, Daniel McGuire, and Robbie Hayes. They're back on reality TV. Robbie is on C.S. DeKee, and Daniel McGuire is on the new season of X on the beach.

So if you guys are hardcore Bachelor fans and you want to watch them in there, there would go. Who knows? Taylor's got a face right now. What's the face saying? That's just, yeah. Is that a face of judgment? Slightly, yeah. It's a lot of, I don't know.

I mean, Daniel's in Vancouver. and from what I know he's like still just you know living single life trying to trying to make things work and yeah Robbie I mean good old Robbie were you on seasons with both of them I was yes yeah both of them yeah

Daniel was with Lacey which was like disaster and yeah Robbie was with Amanda that's right that's right yeah yeah Daniel McGuire has got to be one of the weirdest guys I ever met and the final tidbit of Bachelor News that we got for you is Bachelor

alum Becca Martinez is pregnant with baby number two. She announced it on Instagram over Thanksgiving break. Do you know, Becca? I do not. I was actually thinking I was going to meet her this L.A. trip. We were going to do a pod swap, but scheduling does not work out. So, yeah, I have yet to meet her.

And then I was supposed to go to Kendall had like a white elephant party thing on Saturday, which I was going to go to and then got caught up in some other things. So it didn't make it there. But would have met Becca there if I had gone. Darn it. Becca is the best. I love her. and I love how she's so unfiltered and unscared to say certain things.

And she's been open about this pregnancy being more planned than the other one. Yes. Yeah. I feel like we always get tagged in similar things. Like I'll get tags in certain comments of like me and her discussing similar topics and having similar personalities on social media. So I've always wanted to meet her and hopefully one of these days it works out. She's so cute.

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Yeah, I mean, like, I'm not glued to him anymore, you know. It was a solid almost a year of my life where we were very much attached. And I get that, you know, but yeah, like he's his own person with his own life now. And I'm my own person with my own life now. And it's not like I get it's always going to be a part of my life. It's a part of my story. just way more public and in my face than most relationships. So it's a little different and feels a little old at times.

But, I mean, it's also like a very special relationship to me. Can you give us a time on of your relationship? So you guys met on Bachelor in Paradise four, four? I think it was four, yeah. Yeah. Was it four? Yeah. Okay.

So then you were together for a year, right? A little less? A little less. Yeah. we were we met in June and then we're engaged on the reunion show which was in August and then broke up in like May June okay yeah I think it was like we were publicly broken up in like June and then he took a year in between the breakup to go on Bachelor and Paradise this past season yes yeah did you want to get engaged on that August reunion show

no yeah I didn't think so my love to say that I feel like it was all obvious watching you yeah um yeah i did i was not in that place and i did make that clear i think that wasn't yeah so no i didn't and i think you know there's a lot of reasons why it why it did happen um and yeah that was a big part in us breaking up as well but what do you mean there was a lot that went into that you said there is a lot of decisions that made it happen when when when i say that when people are like oh you know like were you expecting it to happen i'm like no because i was clear that i didn't so i didn't expect to happen um a lot of people are like oh well you know he must just been like manipulated by producers all that and i'm like no because they also knew that i

didn't want that and i like i think part of it also was really just he really wanted that like he really saw that and saw it as an opportunity and i don't think there was any thing like malicious in it of him being like oh I'm going to get her in this relationship um but yeah I mean even like friends that have seen him since then um like a few months ago one of my friends hung out with him and it was just like he was like yeah like I was really in love with her like I really loved her and I'm like oh yeah like I think he really thought yeah so I don't know you're saying it's not for malicious reasons you're saying it's not because the producers talked him into it and you said that it's something he really wanted now did he really want to

just be with you forever did he want to like get married or did he want to have a televised bachelor engagement and being a bachelor engaged couple yeah i have thoughts on that um i think part of it is that yeah he just really wanted you know uh he really wants a family he wants that life he wants to have someone in his life like that um i think part of it was yes he saw me as that person but I think the other part of it sure is also that piece of like attention and you know just continuing something like when you know you want a long-term date someone you take the opportunity to just get engaged on the show to then have all that extra stuff and whatever else so I think I think that was part of it but I'm not him so I can't

say how does having this like relationship define you we're still talking about today how does it affect your like dating life and any other relationships since then it's caused me to be super intentional and super assertive in my relationships now um but just in terms of like people perceiving me and whatnot from this relationship it's it's a weird thing you know because i don't necessarily consider myself to have been engaged like it's a weird thing i look at it as like this alternate universe like an alternate reality life that i was in um so but to other people it's like wow like you were engaged and like you have this like full out thing and and um i think it makes other people when they first start dating me think that i want

all of those things which i do on some level right but not in that way um but yeah it's caused me to just be a lot more intentional and assertive and like creating my relationships today i i want like so my first thought and i know our listeners are thinking is like why would you say yes I don't think I actually said yes I was just crying and I was like shaking my head I literally yes you did this you did it

I was literally in shock like I've literally never already when I walked out there on stage I like black out immediately because last time I was on stage like that was for women's hell all which was like highly traumatic and like a freaking wrestling rink like it was literally hyperventilated

in between commercial breaks and just an absolute disaster so already going out there I was such a disaster and had so much anxiety and was just literally just blacking out. And, yeah, afterwards, I literally just went into like total shock. And, like, I'm a big talker. So, like, I'm always talking through and, like, afterwards, I was in my trailer. And, like, your podcast is called, let's talk about it. Exactly.

Exactly. And, yeah, even afterwards, like, the producers that I'm close with were just like, you don't talk? And, like, I literally was just silent for, like, 30 minutes. And just had, like, tears, like, streaming down my face. like I couldn't even like make words and that's like that's how I know I'm like yeah that was just shock like I had never experienced anything like that before and it's like what are you going to do it's like yeah I do have love for him and you know want to date him like we we were not

monogamously together when that happened so I was like I do have love for him and I want to date him but like now now what like how do I I have no idea you're not monogamously together and Was he aware of this? Yes. And he proposed to somebody who didn't even want to commit to him, like, full-heartedly? Yes. Were you not monogamous because I know you talk about this on your podcast a lot. You talk about open relationships and threesomes, even.

And we... Talk about all the things. I know. I say threesomes like that just because we don't normally don't talk. It's usually pretty PG over here. Yeah. But so you're the kind of person. that you can have multiple relationships at one time.

Were you open with Derek because you didn't like him enough or just because you like that style relationship? No. So I wouldn't even say we were in an open relationship. We were just single and like dating. And I don't think like when people are in open relationships or non-monogamous relationships, it's not even necessarily about not liking someone enough. It's just the other things are different.

Having a connection with one person doesn't lessen your connection for another. But yeah, I think we. basically after Paradise he came to Seattle he was in Seattle for like three weeks and we were having great time and you know he had like pushed back his flight like to say longer and it was super sweet and I was like so happy but by the time he left the trip I was like you know I'm not ready to be like I still need more time and you know when you get off the show like there's just so much happening and you know I had gotten off of my season of Bachelor and then gone on to Paradise and was like yeah like I just want to take this slow.

Like I just want to see what life looks like. Like you live in Iowa. I live in Seattle. Like let's just give this some time and, you know, like give ourselves a little bit of a breather here. And I think he was really hurt by that and like wanted to be boyfriend and girlfriend. And I basically left it as like, you know, yeah, I'll communicate with you if I'm with anyone.

And like you communicate with me if you're with anyone. And we'll continue to work on this because I would like to work towards that. And then, you know, we both kind of. did our own things and saw each other when we could. And then there was definitely things that he wasn't fully honest with me about that also contributed to things later. And yeah, it wasn't, I wouldn't say we were in any kind of open relationship. It was just us dating and figuring it out.

And yeah, then it was time for the reunion show. Would you say that his feeling spiked during the airing of the show? Or that there was like a high around your relationship? well yeah yeah i mean there's a lot of there's a lot of highs around all of it right um and yeah i think there was also part of you know my storyline the first time around on bachelor was really difficult and didn't necessarily show the best parts of me and i think he really enjoyed the fact that people were getting to see a different side of me and i think he you know i think it also made him feel good to know that like he was a part of that and that he was helping that he was helping me in that way

I guess um so yeah I think that you know watching ourselves on the show also brought us together and you know it's I always say like my favorite Derek that I knew was like Derek and Iowa like when I'm there like with his family like that was the absolute best possible times we could have had where we were super super close and it does make me sad because I think in in a different place in a different time, if we had met, you know, totally unrelated to the show. Things might have been different. But, yeah, they're just, when I look at, like, the actual timeline of our relationship, so much stuff happened.

And it's like, yeah, no wonder it was difficult for us. There was a lot contributing. So close up the picture for us here. Because I want to get to know you, too, Taylor, outside of this relationship. Because I think there's a little bit more there. Thanks. Yeah. close up the picture of what happened after engagement.

So clear up to finish the story here. You get engaged. You're obviously together for a while. It ends. And then let's talk about what you're doing the day because I know you got some cool stuff going on. Yeah. Yeah. Got engaged.

Three days after that, my stepdad collapsed running a race and went into like cardiac arrest. And most people like don't come back from that. And he did. lost his medical license for his medical for being a pilot. He was in the Air Force. No, he was actually flying for Paul Allen at that time. But, yeah, so basically had a lot of family stuff happen where then I stayed in Seattle and staying home. And Derek had moved to New York for a job and then basically wanted me to move to New York.

And I was like, I have to stay here for family. And then my cat was also like dying. I'm a crazy cat lady, like loud and proud. And so I was like, I can't like, I got to, you know. stay here for my cat and yeah we were just not on the same page with what we wanted and yeah I have two blaring questions before we do move on from Derek how did you get to crying and being so hysterical on that reunion show to actually putting the ring on your finger um did you really wear the ring when I was in public yeah when I had to yeah yeah um

And, yeah, I mean, I've, this was, the reunion was in August and then, like, I told him after, I was like, yeah, like, I will be your girlfriend, you know, like, I will commit to you and will be your girlfriend. And then it was in October. I was in Iowa and that was when I, like, really actually fell in love with him. And it was unfortunate that then, like, that same week that I was like, I'm. fully in love with you and like I'm in this and I'm like I want us to do this then I found out a lot of other things that were really heartbreaking and difficult and then that was that was tough almost broke up then but stayed together and tried to work on things and then ended it in June would you say that you were ever in a monogamous relationship with Derek yeah okay so was it

that October time yeah no like from the engagement there on out we were We were monogamously together. Okay. Yeah. Taylor, you are, I think you still do. I don't know what your career is right now, but you're obviously an expert in kind of how events in life affect you mentally. Yeah. So you go through this whole thing, and I want to try to make this so relatable to anybody listening out there.

I just actually got back from Washington, D.C. This is funny. I want to tell you this, Taylor. I was at Capital One headquarters talking about a company that I'm a part of called Generous. And I'm standing in line and they're like, oh, so a couple of women came up and they're like, oh, we love The Almost Famous Podcasts. We're huge fans of Ashley. Who are you having on this week? And I said, your name, like, we love Taylor.

So I know they're listening to this right now, which is always fun to know and think about it. Somebody across the country right now is listening to us. I wanted to let you know you have fans in Washington, D.C. Thanks. He used to live in Baltimore for like eight years. So, yeah. Yeah, close to it. So here's the thing.

Let's make this relatable for those type of people that are listening out there. Somebody gets into a relationship. They don't have to do with it. It's not going according to plan. It never feels right. Somebody thought it was right for a long time. You keep trying to convince yourself. It keeps disappointing you.

You get out of it and you sit there and you try to recover and heal and process everything that's happened in the last seven months of your life, eight months. I don't know how long it was for you. How do you do that? And where does it spit you out? Like at the end of it, when the light starts to shine again, what have you learned from this whole thing? The show, the relationship, the events that have happened through it to where you are now. That's such a good question. That's such a big one.

There's a lot in that. I think for me, it was, I was definitely in a phase of like getting to know me a little bit more. Figuring out like what I really wanted out of a relationship, what I wanted my life to look like. Because when you come off the show, I feel like you don't really have like a, your life is just all over the place. Like there's not necessarily grounding there for you to really like be in touch with yourself because there's just so many things happening. And for me it was super important to like be grounded, be in Seattle, be with my family, be with my friends, get back to like figuring out my career what I wanted that to look like. Because you just gotten out of grad school, right? Yeah, I had graduated May 2016 and then was on the show filming in September.

2016. You and I had similar paths. Yeah. And for me it was like, how do I get back to, you know, who Taylor is? Like that was really important. And like huge takeaways from the show and that whole experience is like you can't please everyone. And at the end of the day, like you have to remain authentic to yourself and to your story and just living your life in alignment with what you want. I think in a lot of ways when I reflect on, you know, my time. in my experience on the show is that I made myself a little small and tried to please other people and tried to make sure I was doing things the right way. And then when you look back on that, that's not like, you're like, who is that? You know, like, that doesn't feel super authentic.

And so, yeah, I don't know if the answer's your question, but those have a lot of reflections post-show. Has it affected you still to this day? I mean, it's been a few years now. yeah i mean both times on the show and it again it's it's always nice like to in a way get together with other people from the show because you can all kind of relate to this experience and even this weekend with some other batch alum after jingle ball you know just having really honest authentic real conversations really vulnerable conversations about how the show has impacted each of us and it it honestly is trauma like for some people yes it's a great experience and i'm sure for both of you you also have like beautiful things to take away from the show but uh

In general, the first time was traumatic in one way and the second time was traumatic in other ways. And, you know, my own personal therapy for many several years post show. And while the show was airing for like several days a week sometimes, it literally was trauma. So it absolutely does stick with me. And, you know, in some ways in a really positive way, right? Because now I feel like I sometimes just don't really give a shit about anything. And so I just will just be myself, regardless of if that fits in the picture of what people think a therapist should look like, or if it's what they think Taylor from the show should look like, or someone who has emotional intelligence should look like. It's like, I'm just being me.

Like, and that's just what I'm going to continue to do. That was my next question. So you got, what was your degree in at Johns Hopkins? Yeah, so I have a bachelor's in psychology with a minor in human services. And then I have a master's in clinical mental health counseling. So you are known on the show as, you. emotional intelligence girl it was a term that you threw around a lot how did your education play a role in how you handled the bachelor experience yeah well i think going on everyone was like

from producers to friends to like strangers everyone was just like oh well like you're going to kill it like you're just you're so prepared like if anyone's prepared for a show like this it's you and like news flash you're never prepared um and i think for me it was a huge slap in the face of reality honestly because I was in such a bubble in my life with my friends and my community of people where phrases like emotional intelligence were just a part of our daily language like that was just a part of it and so I think it actually in some ways put me at a disadvantage because honestly it is also a reality TV show and people want entertainment right and for me I was very much in a like I was taking myself a little seriously yeah people would say that you like

Sounded a little bit elitist. Yeah, and to me, like, that was just, yeah, when you look at it in comparison, it's going to look like that. And, yeah, to me, it was just a part of my daily language. So it definitely was a bit of, like, a wake-up call of, like, I guess just knowing that I'm in a little bit of a bubble around people who are really interested in, you know, personal development and challenging themselves in those ways. And, yeah, then I was like, oh, like, I'm on a reality TV show. I forgot. Did you feel about, did you feel like everything that you knew from school made you more overly analytical of everything that was going on, like production and like how they were trying to pass, you know, for sure. All the moves, the producing moves. Yes, definitely, definitely. And I also felt like going on the show, I was just so curious to like observe all the dynamics. But I definitely took way more of a, I took more like the role of an observer than I actually allowed myself to be present. in the experience, which is something I would definitely change if that was ever possible. And I think that's something I've been more intentional and aware of going into any experiences

today of just like, you don't necessarily have to like be the observer, be analytical in this or try to be as objective as possible. Like just go be subjective. Go be yourself, like experience this. Because I definitely was very in my head and was very much like trying to look out for people and trying to, you know, take in all the different. dynamics because there's a lot, a lot that goes on on the show. Would you recommend doing it if somebody asked you today, a close friend and they said,

hey, we have this opportunity. Would you say do it? I would ask them why they wanted to do it. I would say why. Why did you want to do it? I wanted to do it because I thought, what better way to challenge myself with being vulnerable than to go on reality TV and data total stranger. A lot of the work I was doing with my clients at the time was.

around vulnerability. And I had had someone tell me that I'm really great at getting to some other people, but that I'm actually really not vulnerable. And I have a lot of walls up. And so I was already challenging myself and my dating and trying to be like, how can I let people in? How do I let those walls down? And I was also trying to go with the flow a little bit more because my life had been so planned out. Like I did my bachelor's in three years, went straight to my master's. And I was like, I'm going to be fully licensed by the time I'm 25. And I'll work the rest of my life as a psychotherapist. So I was like, how do I like get outside my comfort zone and challenge myself with letting go of control and going with the flow and also

being more vulnerable and letting my walls down? And the show literally encapsulated all of that. And it was like, this is an opportunity before I just go head first into my career. Do I take it or do I walk away and then always wonder what if? That's the most interesting answer I've ever gotten to that question. Yeah. She's an interesting person. This has been a interesting interview. Taylor, thanks for coming on. I want to hear, though, what do you up to now? I know you have a good podcast. It's booming. You're sharing your insights and your love for others on this on the podcast. Tell our listeners about it. Yeah, so the podcast is called Let's Talk About It with Taylor Nolan and it focuses on mental and sexual health. So right now I

practice as a psychotherapist in Seattle. And then I'm also going through training right now to be certified as a sex therapist. So I definitely share my own personal experiences. I have other experts on who share not only their professional knowledge, but also their own personal experiences as well. There's a lot of stigma and shame around mental health, but I'm also learning that there's even more stigma around sexual health and sexuality, especially as a young woman of color. I receive a lot of shame around that, around expressing and exploring my sexuality. So that's something that I feel like I try to tackle on a daily basis on not only Instagram but also with the podcast. So that's kind of what I'm up to these days and just dating and, you know, exploring

all the, all the fun things. You brought a boy to Jingle Ball. Is that a boyfriend or is that someone you're seeing? Just a person I'm seeing. Yeah, it's very, he's in Toronto. I really suck at finding people in Seattle to date. So, yeah, no, he's in Canada. I have someone. in London I talk to occasionally. There is one person I see in Seattle. Sometimes there's someone in L.A. I talk to. So, yeah, like, I'm just, I'm dating and figuring out where it goes. And, yeah, the Toronto guy that came to Jingle Ball is, he's really great, and I'm liking him.

So we'll see where that goes. You made a comment earlier about different people fulfilling different emotional needs. And that's a super interesting take. But it makes me wonder, do you think that you'll ever be in a relationship? Do you want to be in a monogamous relationship? relationship do you want to find somebody who fulfills all the emotional needs so which i don't know if that's possible but yeah so i was gonna say there's i definitely feel there are parts of me that desire monogamy and there are times i really enjoy monogamy um i don't believe that someone will ever be

able to fully fulfill all of my emotional needs all of the time right i don't know if anybody can find that yeah and i think that that's unfortunately one of the concepts we have around monogamy that can lead to some really unhealthy relationships and toxic behaviors. But yeah, there's definitely like periods of my life and in times with people that 100% monogamy is what I desire and I want to be fully like wrapped up in that one person and don't necessarily have a desire for other people. But I don't think like long term that that would be something for me. At least, you know, ever since my first boyfriend, I've always said, you know, the person

I marry is not going to be the one and only person I have sex with for the rest of my life. that that just seemed so unrealistic to me and that there were like so like it's so beautiful when you do have a connection with someone right like how often is it that you like someone that they like you back and like timing is right and you have the opportunity to actually explore a connection like I find that that's fairly rare that that actually happens and when it does how beautiful is that to be able to have the openness to actually explore um so marriage doesn't mean monogamy to you not necessarily I think it certainly involves periods of monogamy, you know, like I don't think it's, when I do talk about non-monogamy, I think people think, you know, every weekend you and your partner are out trying to find someone else and like, that's not what it looks like at all. There's definitely periods where there would be, you know, a sense of being closed off to other people or not pursuing that. And there's times that I super enjoy that as well. So yeah, it's not, I think I could definitely be in a monogamous relationship again, but it would probably be.

be a little bit more monogamish. Interesting expression. I've never heard that term. You never heard monogamish? It's kind of cute. Yeah, Dan Savage started it. Taylor, we got a few emails we're going to get to. Before we do, I want to ask you one final question to sum all this up.

What are from doing the podcast from opening up about some of the things that have been laid on your heart, the lessons you've learned, what are some things you have learned experienced in the last few months from listeners and emailers before? we get into our own emails that you've taken with you. Something I've learned from my listeners. Sure. I think I've learned to, it might sound a little weird, but just to be more outspoken in standing in your truth, I think the more that I talk about taboo and very stigmatized topics,

the more I feel like it encourages and fuels other people to stand in. their truths with that and to feel less alone. And I have felt way less alone and the things I struggle with that I have had to work through some shame around when I share them. And I'm also met with the same thing from other people. So I think just having that courage to stand in your truth and be vulnerable in that is been something I've learned a lot to do from from listeners and I'm very much inspired by reading their stories and reading their messages to me about them doing the same. Where can people find your podcast?

On Apple podcast, on Spotify, any place where you listen to podcasts. If you just search and let's talk about it with Taylor Nolan, it'll show up. It's weekly? Yep, every week. Awesome. All right. Well, we are definitely going to check that out. You have been so articulate and such a pleasure to listen to.

Oh, thank you. And talk to. Thanks. Yes. So I want to listen to you more over there. Thanks. All right, you ready to get to this email, which is very on brand for this season of the bachelor it is flights for the bachelor is this from lea she asks i'm dying to know how are flights

booked so quickly after someone decides to leave or is kicked off the show early then you have an answer for this uh there i mean there's a whole travel department sometimes i mean i know there's been scenarios i don't know if you guys heard about this where the person can't leave like right away like they have to stay the night or wait till the evening fly it's all an illusion that we leave right away. No, I mean, people do leave. Like, they get in a car, they drive to a hotel away from everybody and they either stay in the night of a hotel or they jump on a flight the next morning. But I don't think it's that. I mean, it's impressive. I think it's impressive when you're like in Bali and all of a sudden there's somebody can get like a flight out of

there. I mean, that can't cost, that has to cost to show so much money. I can't even imagine what their travel expenses are. No wonder why we don't get paid. Yeah. So there's a whole travel team somebody gets kicked off i'm sure they radioed down little sally sue is being sent home make sure you get her a flight back to san francisco tomorrow and somebody's on it yep i have one that didn't make the uh the pages in front of you if you don't mind just came in late and she does not want her name said so i'll be careful here but she says if you know your partner is getting you a ring for christmas like the ring what kind of gift can you possibly get him i know that's saying yes is a gift but any ideas on what I can give him

that's equally meaningful. Oh my goodness. I love that question. It's so sweet. It is not Jessica. Okay, good. I was like, like wait for awkward pause.

Okay. So I don't know. I would say like it really doesn't have a price tag on it. It can't have a price tag on it because like you're not going to get him whatever the cost of the actual range. is. So whether it's a token or a memento that sort of stands

for the same thing, which is you know, togetherness forever, then you're going to have to just find what in your relationship symbolizes that. Ben, any other options? I got an easier idea. How about you just say yes? Well, that's what she said. That should be a gift enough, right?

She said, other than saying yes, what's a gift? Yeah, and I think too, she's also wanting to choose him as well. And I think sometimes that's what's in like traditional proposals of that like mute the reciprocation right and it's beautiful that this listener wants to give back to her partner like that and I love what you said too about finding something in your relationship that um it symbolizes you know your connection and

giving that as a gift but also I mean why can't you also get a ring as well and you know I'm kind of all about the man engagement ring my best friend actually just proposed to her boyfriend of four years this past weekend, which is so funny. But it was kind of a joke that they always had. She drunkenly one night said, you know what, Rob, I'm going to propose to you one day. And then she tried to back out of it for a couple of years. She's like, you know that I didn't really mean it. I want you to propose to me. He's like, nope, you said it. Like, I'm sticking to it. So it wasn't like a surprise that she was the one that got down one knee, but she finally was the one that decided. She didn't get down on one knee. And she actually, she has a ring for him.

he she has a ring for her too at the proposal moment she had a ring for herself which was a family heirloom she didn't buy it for herself and and he had actually also asked her dad for permission ahead of time so there was a bit of tradition to it that is sweet I didn't kind of like personal

framed something or other collage photos anything meaningful like that I think is a great idea hey I just want to remind everybody to come and see you guys live because you know you two are modest you don't want to sing your own praises but I So I'm so lucky. I get to sit here and watch Ben and actually do this live on a weekly basis. You need to get in on this. It's the perfect holiday gift. What a stocking stuff for our tickets is the almost famous live in San Francisco at the Palace of Fine Arts. Go to Ticketmaster.com. Go to ticketmaster.com. Go to make it a girl's night. Get it for you and your friends. Make it awkward. Stay at the Viceroy. The Palace of Fine Arts. Ticketmaster.com. Coming up in January, almost famous live.

And our guest on that podcast, not to make it awkward, is Derek. And Katie Morton for right now. We may have more surprise appearances to talk about later. Hey, also, Taylor, I don't know what you think of this, but after a lot of emails, a lot of feedback, we have the opportunity. We're going to interview Chris Souls on this podcast. It'll be airing December 23rd. Chris Souls was, as mentioned, at Jingle Ball. It's one of his first times out in a while. He is a friend of mine.

Obviously, Ashley was on his season and is a friend of Ashley's. We're going to sit down with Chris on this podcast, an in-depth episode, catch up with him, hear his story, hear how he's doing, here, with lessons learned. But check it out, December 23rd, Chris Souls on the Almost James podcast. And a quick shout out to my favorite new place to Postmates. It's called Tokaya Organica, and they provided us lunch here today at the IHeart Station. So a big thank you to Tokaya Organica. If you live, they're expanding. They're expanding a lot.

I actually feel so passionate about this food, this restaurant that I did a little research on them a couple weeks ago. And they are expanding, but they're really just in this L.A. area right now, primarily. They are a fresh, casual, modern Mexican restaurant chain. They create both a date-worthy atmosphere. It's really nice in there. It's not just for pickup. There's also a nice upscale bar area, and they have fresh homemade cocktails. You see them making it.

It's really nice. The menu is fully vegan forward, but they also have meat for you meat eaters as well. They are all about quality produce, and that's the foundation of the restaurant. Between now and the end of the year, for every $50 gift card you buy for someone on your holiday shopping list, you'll receive a $10 bonus gift for yourself. It's a win-win there. So visit Tokayaorgana.com to find your nearest location. Hey, Taylor, follow our lead here.

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